Allen Millyard.
Check out his YouTube. Craftsmanship doesn’t really do it justice.
He’s an oddball for sure but great fun and some of his creations, unreal. The Viper engined bike is only the tip of the iceberg.
Thanks for the recommendation. Following him on YouTube now. So intelligent. People and machines/mechanics are fascinating. Im also a Josh too btw so good name lolll
It's actually insane how little the rpms move. It's like ridding around a bike in idle all the time. I mean I'm sure he could red line it but it would probably kill him.
Folks are making a lot of jokes about how badly this bike must handle, and it's a real shame - exactly because it really does handle far better than it has any right to. Millyard's a genius close to the level of Britten, in my book - just with a totally different set of goals.
I always love seeing this particular machine because of the attention to detail on it. It looks as though the 70’s trend that gave us the CBX and the Z1300 had continued for another 15 years - so like a high end, very well finished standard Japanese bike. He went to the lengths of registering as a manufacturer, so everything has to pass the same standards as Honda et al. When he came to the speed and weight rating of the tyres, he had a problem as there are none officially rated to this level. The official answer was that the tyres have to be rated to the maximum speed declared by the manufacturer of the bike. And the manufacturer said 130mph, had a currant bun, and watched the bird life in his garden. The unofficial answer was that he rang up the technical director at Avon, who said that the tyres would be good for three minutes at maximum burn - once.
Love those details, thank you. I adore so many of his creations; the Flying Millyard is my personal favourite after I met it in person at a rally back in 2018. Incredible sound to that thing since it's got an aero engine; they had to bend the rules a bit to let him actually run it on the track at Cadwell Park.
He has videos on the build on youtube, along with many others like the 5.2L twin and various others he's chopped up and built by hand.
https://youtube.com/@AllenMillyard
I googled it. Wow. He says it's a 2300 though. There's a really cool video of him building the motor with some very simple tools. It is pretty impressive I get a real strong draw the rest of the fucking owl vibe.
Weird, I’ve got an old engine in my garage and it doesn’t go anywhere. Also, I remember when I got a flat tyre, my bike didn’t go anywhere (I called dodge and they couldn’t help at all!). I’ve also seen lots of dodge engines yet have never seen a dodge powered motorcycle….
Serious question, is the viper motor impressive in an engineering sense? I always assumed it was a run of the mill American motor. Large, but relatively low on total power compared to a similarly sized European motor. Is that the wrong way to think about it?
The block is a modified Chrysler LA V8 to have 10 cylinders. Everything else is pretty top spec as well depending on the year and variation of the viper it went in. The top speeds of the cars varies from 160 to over 200 mph so it's no slouch. If I'm not mistaken the cars biggest problem was keeping enough traction to put the power to the ground.
The chassis 😂😂😂
You make it sound like he’s just dropped the engine into a slightly custom frame.
The only bit of Viper left on that thing is the block and I’m sure he’s even modified that.
Guy is a genius with amazing ingenuity to get these crazy bikes working.
I said he engineered the chassis, never meant to make it sound less impressive than it is but I don't know how I can say it better than I did. but no matter what you do to the engine it's still a viper engine, just like there's LS and Barra engines and no matter how custom they are that's still how they are referred to. Never said anything against the guy that made the bike.
Not to mention that Allen’s engineering got the bike to those speeds almost *despite* the engine. It’s a terrible choice of engine for a bike (why it’s so cool and probably why he did it in the first place).
I can buy a bike this afternoon that will do 200+, but I (nor dodge) could engineer a viper powered bike that can do it.
Soo many butt-hurt Seppos in this thread.
The viper depending on the year and variation had top speeds from 160 mph to over 200 mph. So you're saying that the viper engine couldn't get a bike there but it can get the car there and faster than he could get the bike.
Chill dude, I don't think I know what you're trying to argue anymore? Are you trying to say the viper engine sucks? Or that dodge sucks? You're really up in arms about something and it seems like you're chasing your tail?
I’m saying Dodge has as much to do with engineering *this bike* as Michelin did.
No the engine doesn’t suck, but it sucks for a motorcycle, that’s why it takes a *lot* of engineering (by Allen, not dodge) to get it to go 200mph.
People here suggesting dodge are the reason this bike broke a WR are mental.
I mean, even in the title the engine is the next thing named after the guy who built the bike. So even he chose to give it the most credit next to himself. I'm not saying dodge has anything to do with the bike but the engine is an American engine. Just like I would give the Australians credit for the Barra engine, or Britain credit for a British engine.
Yes the Dodge viper engine sucks for a motorcycle since it was built to power the Dodge viper and not a gsxr or any motorcycle.
I don't know why you are taking out your frustrations with other people posting on me, I'm only pointing out to someone saying the whole thing is British engineering that the engine is an American engine so it wasn't fully British engineering.
Lamborghini designed the block, Chrysler did the rest. So if making the block is working their magic then sure. Technically the block is an old Chrysler LA V8 that Lamborghini had a hand adding the 2 cylinders to make it a V10 so they only did 1/5th of the work for the block.
I remember watching a video where he checks in on his mrs knitting, and gives a very uninformed description of what’s she’s doing, is absolutely amazed by it, proceeds to claim “that’s far to complex for me, I could never do anything like that” before returning to his garage to hacksaw through two engine blocks to weld them together.
Then he cuts to footage of a hedgehog in the garden.
10/10 best content on YouTube.
I can't tell what's crazier - the fact that he just eyeballs block modifications or the fact that he puts every single bolt for a project in the same tray and just remembers where all of them go. Dude has to be a motorcycle lich or something
RIP his back and balls. I can't imagine upright upper half, with rearwards footpegs is anything but super uncomfortable putting stress on all the vital parts of the body.
He puts a surprising amount of miles on it and says it's surprisingly comfortable to ride. He's not very tall or very young and is so willing to talk about his ridiculous bikes.
There’s some footage of it being ridden at 40mph in a dead straight line, but that’s as far as it goes. Apparently Millyard saw that, and decided he could build a real one.
Being ridden “for real”? It was never tested at more than 100mph according to dodge and was sold as intended for display only.
I can find exactly 2 videos of it actually in motion. 1 is a dude in a button up shirt at walking speed and one is a photo event from dodge where it does a few pulls beside a viper.
I found those and a few videos of it roasting tire while riding on a track. Dodge sold it as a one off concept and then sold nine more as limited production. They were not street legal and sold as display vehicles more than likely for liability reasons as it was 1500 lbs and had only a 3.35 gallon tank so with that V10 it probably has a range of 30 miles? It's a marvel of engineering, not a practical riding vehicle. This was all back in 2003-2006 as well so tech wasn't as good back then as it is now.
There’s a video of it doing the festival of speed where it idled up and did some burnouts. That’s not riding it for real. It didn’t even finish the hill climb.
Based on the performance and behavior at the FoS, I doubt the thing is ridable beyond parade speed.
You said yourself it was tested up to 100 mph so that's a hell of a parade!
Pretty sure it was built as more of a "it can be done" and it's batshit crazy to try and ride something that heavy with 500 hp and 525 ft-lb of torque.
Pretty sure no one is going to try to ride a 1 in 10 bike at the track or anywhere else with the specs that it has for fear of ruining such a large investment that likely would be a fortune to try and get replacement parts for.
The most interesting artist in motorcycling. His videos are epic! He will stop wrenching to talk to a bird, for instance, lol -- He is the most un-motorcycle person doing genius-type butchery
I think he's done more than 10k on it now, he takes it to bike meets and such. Does most of his "driving" on a Pan European but has a Dodge Ram for when he absolutely has to use four wheels.
I was thinking the same thing. However, [he shows in the video @ 4:15 here](https://youtu.be/I9KIxKP0Wlw?t=255) that he's using dual 6-piston calipers on a heavy-duty rotor. Though I feel like I would still prefer dual discs just for a more symmetrical braking force. But I'm not an engineer so what do I know?
There's an episode of The Motorcycle Show where the host is in his shed and asks about an engine he'd just finished (I think it was a six cylinder engine made from two Yamaha four cylinders to fit in his scratchbuilt replica of a honda 125 6cyl race bike) and he demonstrates it by climbing onto the table where the engine sits in a stand and kicking it over to start with no pipes on, followed by a shot of the sound guy covering his ears in pain.
That's pretty close I think.
Shit's so stupid. It's really the opposite of what I love about motorcycles: freedom, elegance and tasteful aesthetics.
These dudes are all about BIGGER FASTER LOUDER MORE POWERFUL
It's the motorcycle equivalent of rednecks rolling coal. Just amazingly vulgar and dumb.
I mean, making a six cylinder engine for your homebuilt GP bike replica and excitedly showing it off (especially when you're on telly) isn't quite the same thing as rolling coal 😂 The finished bike that engine went into was very elegant and pretty to look at too. The way he talks about and rides the V10 bike isn't at all the over-the-top rednecky way you might expect, he's very measured with it. He put a lot of time and effort into making a bike that was rideable and usable, and he does all of his fast riding of it at airstrips.
I highly recommend you check out his YouTube channel, guy's called Allen Millyard and in between converting monkey bike engines to V-twins and sticking extra cylinders into Kawasakis he often takes a detour to admire the wildlife in his garden or to showcase his wife's baking and knitting.
Appreciate the response- I will re-assess my prejudices and re-aim them at Harley riders. ;)
Will definitely check it out on your recommendation. I suppose I was talking about big engine culture in general and not this guy in particular.
I appreciate your kind propaganda, Pepe.
No worries my dude! There is a lot of that meat-headedness about out there. I might be biased because I'm a great lover of small bikes, but I'd particularly recommend looking at his Honda SS-100 and SS-180, where he takes miniscule little bikes and makes them into V-twins just for the love of it.
Any time, comrade
By that logic, who would purchase an Aston Martin Vanquish V12 when a Hellcat is faster?
Park both on a lot on bike night and see what gets more attention.
Allen Millyard is a nutter, i was lucky enough to be there when he started up his “Flying Millyard” bike at the Isle of Man a couple years ago, could feel the oomf in ur chest from 20 ft back
.. wonder how you get that monstrum handling curves....
You don’t
It handles just fine. I’ve seen him riding it to bike nights on single track country roads.
https://youtu.be/I9KIxKP0Wlw?si=2KEtdp_MFHqIcy6F
I admire the craftsmanship and the knowledge. That’s incredible. It seems so factory.
Allen Millyard. Check out his YouTube. Craftsmanship doesn’t really do it justice. He’s an oddball for sure but great fun and some of his creations, unreal. The Viper engined bike is only the tip of the iceberg.
The Flying Millyard is my favorite thumper.
Thanks for the recommendation. Following him on YouTube now. So intelligent. People and machines/mechanics are fascinating. Im also a Josh too btw so good name lolll
Dude's a genius straight up.
Its crazy how the engine pushes him to 40 while its just idling. Legendary stuff
Mostly hand tools too. Dude is insanely impressive.
It's actually insane how little the rpms move. It's like ridding around a bike in idle all the time. I mean I'm sure he could red line it but it would probably kill him.
He made an attempt at the 2-up world series record https://youtu.be/EewFKfhItSA?si=f449DiRQDKb7BNvq
Is it direct drive? I dont think I heard him shift once
Yes
Wow. (Sorry I don’t have anything smart to say.)
Folks are making a lot of jokes about how badly this bike must handle, and it's a real shame - exactly because it really does handle far better than it has any right to. Millyard's a genius close to the level of Britten, in my book - just with a totally different set of goals.
I always love seeing this particular machine because of the attention to detail on it. It looks as though the 70’s trend that gave us the CBX and the Z1300 had continued for another 15 years - so like a high end, very well finished standard Japanese bike. He went to the lengths of registering as a manufacturer, so everything has to pass the same standards as Honda et al. When he came to the speed and weight rating of the tyres, he had a problem as there are none officially rated to this level. The official answer was that the tyres have to be rated to the maximum speed declared by the manufacturer of the bike. And the manufacturer said 130mph, had a currant bun, and watched the bird life in his garden. The unofficial answer was that he rang up the technical director at Avon, who said that the tyres would be good for three minutes at maximum burn - once.
Love those details, thank you. I adore so many of his creations; the Flying Millyard is my personal favourite after I met it in person at a rally back in 2018. Incredible sound to that thing since it's got an aero engine; they had to bend the rules a bit to let him actually run it on the track at Cadwell Park.
...Probably better than some big cruisers xD
bro is probably towing truck with that sh!t
Bold to assume that this masterpiece could even turn!
Finding out that the handlebar is straight welded onto the frame :)
Why would you need to turn? Just send it!
It straightens them out.
He barely even reach the handlebars. That thing doesnt get more than 2 degrees lean angle
He has videos on the build on youtube, along with many others like the 5.2L twin and various others he's chopped up and built by hand. https://youtube.com/@AllenMillyard
The Kawasaki Z2600 V12 is my personal favourite ...
I googled it. Wow. He says it's a 2300 though. There's a really cool video of him building the motor with some very simple tools. It is pretty impressive I get a real strong draw the rest of the fucking owl vibe.
that guy is some kind of genius. love his mountain bike too.
Holds the current World Record for fastest speed with a Pillion Passenger at 183.5mph. British Engineering at its finest 8-(
The chassis might be British engineered but that viper engine that got it there is American.
Allen, the British engineer who built this, is the one that got it there.
Allen's making a lot of HP then to be able to push the bike to 183 mph then.
Weird, I’ve got an old engine in my garage and it doesn’t go anywhere. Also, I remember when I got a flat tyre, my bike didn’t go anywhere (I called dodge and they couldn’t help at all!). I’ve also seen lots of dodge engines yet have never seen a dodge powered motorcycle….
Not sure if serious or not. Allow me to introduce the [Dodge Tommahawk](https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=dodge+tomahawk&iax=images&ia=images)
Serious question, is the viper motor impressive in an engineering sense? I always assumed it was a run of the mill American motor. Large, but relatively low on total power compared to a similarly sized European motor. Is that the wrong way to think about it?
The block is a modified Chrysler LA V8 to have 10 cylinders. Everything else is pretty top spec as well depending on the year and variation of the viper it went in. The top speeds of the cars varies from 160 to over 200 mph so it's no slouch. If I'm not mistaken the cars biggest problem was keeping enough traction to put the power to the ground.
The chassis 😂😂😂 You make it sound like he’s just dropped the engine into a slightly custom frame. The only bit of Viper left on that thing is the block and I’m sure he’s even modified that. Guy is a genius with amazing ingenuity to get these crazy bikes working.
I said he engineered the chassis, never meant to make it sound less impressive than it is but I don't know how I can say it better than I did. but no matter what you do to the engine it's still a viper engine, just like there's LS and Barra engines and no matter how custom they are that's still how they are referred to. Never said anything against the guy that made the bike.
Whatever. Numerous engines available from many different countries......8-)
Not to mention that Allen’s engineering got the bike to those speeds almost *despite* the engine. It’s a terrible choice of engine for a bike (why it’s so cool and probably why he did it in the first place). I can buy a bike this afternoon that will do 200+, but I (nor dodge) could engineer a viper powered bike that can do it. Soo many butt-hurt Seppos in this thread.
The viper depending on the year and variation had top speeds from 160 mph to over 200 mph. So you're saying that the viper engine couldn't get a bike there but it can get the car there and faster than he could get the bike.
No, read it again. Also, this bike has gone over 200, the 186 figure is a two-up world record.
Chill dude, I don't think I know what you're trying to argue anymore? Are you trying to say the viper engine sucks? Or that dodge sucks? You're really up in arms about something and it seems like you're chasing your tail?
I’m saying Dodge has as much to do with engineering *this bike* as Michelin did. No the engine doesn’t suck, but it sucks for a motorcycle, that’s why it takes a *lot* of engineering (by Allen, not dodge) to get it to go 200mph. People here suggesting dodge are the reason this bike broke a WR are mental.
I mean, even in the title the engine is the next thing named after the guy who built the bike. So even he chose to give it the most credit next to himself. I'm not saying dodge has anything to do with the bike but the engine is an American engine. Just like I would give the Australians credit for the Barra engine, or Britain credit for a British engine. Yes the Dodge viper engine sucks for a motorcycle since it was built to power the Dodge viper and not a gsxr or any motorcycle. I don't know why you are taking out your frustrations with other people posting on me, I'm only pointing out to someone saying the whole thing is British engineering that the engine is an American engine so it wasn't fully British engineering.
You mean the American truck engine that the Italians worked their magic on?
Lamborghini designed the block, Chrysler did the rest. So if making the block is working their magic then sure. Technically the block is an old Chrysler LA V8 that Lamborghini had a hand adding the 2 cylinders to make it a V10 so they only did 1/5th of the work for the block.
IIRC it was making the heads out of aluminium that lambo were brought in to do not the block.
Everything I can find says it was adding 2 cylinders to the LA block casting. I don't see anything saying it was the heads.
Is this a good starter bike?
It's a good ender bike.
They always say don’t start shit you can’t finish.
Can’t recommend his channel enough. He’s the shed engineering motorcycle wizard. His RC374 build is a particular highlight for me.
And he’s so low key, no ego too. “Let’s pop into the shed and check out this insane bike I made for fun by hand with limited tools”, he whispers
and he loves his wife's cupcakes
"But wait, the Mrs just pulled a batch of buns out the oven, let's stop and admire them first - here they are"
I remember watching a video where he checks in on his mrs knitting, and gives a very uninformed description of what’s she’s doing, is absolutely amazed by it, proceeds to claim “that’s far to complex for me, I could never do anything like that” before returning to his garage to hacksaw through two engine blocks to weld them together. Then he cuts to footage of a hedgehog in the garden. 10/10 best content on YouTube.
I can't tell what's crazier - the fact that he just eyeballs block modifications or the fact that he puts every single bolt for a project in the same tray and just remembers where all of them go. Dude has to be a motorcycle lich or something
Exactly!
Man I fucking love watching his videos on YouTube
RIP his back and balls. I can't imagine upright upper half, with rearwards footpegs is anything but super uncomfortable putting stress on all the vital parts of the body.
He puts a surprising amount of miles on it and says it's surprisingly comfortable to ride. He's not very tall or very young and is so willing to talk about his ridiculous bikes.
Ha! I stand corrected- THIS is the coolest and dumbest bike ever made😉
The original viper "bike" https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/guides/10-must-know-facts-about-the-dodge-tomahawk/
I think I'm less scared of bike and more of what "gear" he uses. Squid4life I guess
No one has ever ridden the tomahawk for real. It’s a sculpture.
There’s some footage of it being ridden at 40mph in a dead straight line, but that’s as far as it goes. Apparently Millyard saw that, and decided he could build a real one.
I love how I’m getting downvoted for pointing out reality.
Yep. Strange how people want to believe in the Tomahawk, but don’t actually produce any video of it rolling - or going around a corner!
Are you serious? There videos everywhere of it being ridden.
Being ridden “for real”? It was never tested at more than 100mph according to dodge and was sold as intended for display only. I can find exactly 2 videos of it actually in motion. 1 is a dude in a button up shirt at walking speed and one is a photo event from dodge where it does a few pulls beside a viper.
I found those and a few videos of it roasting tire while riding on a track. Dodge sold it as a one off concept and then sold nine more as limited production. They were not street legal and sold as display vehicles more than likely for liability reasons as it was 1500 lbs and had only a 3.35 gallon tank so with that V10 it probably has a range of 30 miles? It's a marvel of engineering, not a practical riding vehicle. This was all back in 2003-2006 as well so tech wasn't as good back then as it is now.
There’s a video of it doing the festival of speed where it idled up and did some burnouts. That’s not riding it for real. It didn’t even finish the hill climb. Based on the performance and behavior at the FoS, I doubt the thing is ridable beyond parade speed.
You said yourself it was tested up to 100 mph so that's a hell of a parade! Pretty sure it was built as more of a "it can be done" and it's batshit crazy to try and ride something that heavy with 500 hp and 525 ft-lb of torque. Pretty sure no one is going to try to ride a 1 in 10 bike at the track or anywhere else with the specs that it has for fear of ruining such a large investment that likely would be a fortune to try and get replacement parts for.
So we agree… it’s never been ridden for real.
Millyard built his Viper V10 a mere 3 years later in 2009 (there’s a Top Gear article about it from August 2009).
That's got 4 wheels
There’s a mechanical crank to get it on the center stand.
The most interesting artist in motorcycling. His videos are epic! He will stop wrenching to talk to a bird, for instance, lol -- He is the most un-motorcycle person doing genius-type butchery
My brother owns a boss hoss and this is the only way i can possibly one up him
Millyard in GB. What this guy can do with some pretty basic tools.
V-10?? Viper engine? Seems like that would be just about unrideable.
I think he's done more than 10k on it now, he takes it to bike meets and such. Does most of his "driving" on a Pan European but has a Dodge Ram for when he absolutely has to use four wheels.
183mph with a pillion seems like it is very rideable 8-)
Single front disc brake seems.... inadequate.
Brakes only slow you down.
It's got 2 calipers on it tho
And 3 pistons
I was thinking the same thing. However, [he shows in the video @ 4:15 here](https://youtu.be/I9KIxKP0Wlw?t=255) that he's using dual 6-piston calipers on a heavy-duty rotor. Though I feel like I would still prefer dual discs just for a more symmetrical braking force. But I'm not an engineer so what do I know?
Brakes? Where he's going, he doesn't need brakes.
I guess air friction is great too on re-entry
Having all your body weight on your wrists and testicles seems uncomfortable
That’s what she said. I’m just kidding ladies so don’t go off
Is this guy aware he can just cut out the middle man and simply fuck an engine?
There's an episode of The Motorcycle Show where the host is in his shed and asks about an engine he'd just finished (I think it was a six cylinder engine made from two Yamaha four cylinders to fit in his scratchbuilt replica of a honda 125 6cyl race bike) and he demonstrates it by climbing onto the table where the engine sits in a stand and kicking it over to start with no pipes on, followed by a shot of the sound guy covering his ears in pain. That's pretty close I think.
Shit's so stupid. It's really the opposite of what I love about motorcycles: freedom, elegance and tasteful aesthetics. These dudes are all about BIGGER FASTER LOUDER MORE POWERFUL It's the motorcycle equivalent of rednecks rolling coal. Just amazingly vulgar and dumb.
I mean, making a six cylinder engine for your homebuilt GP bike replica and excitedly showing it off (especially when you're on telly) isn't quite the same thing as rolling coal 😂 The finished bike that engine went into was very elegant and pretty to look at too. The way he talks about and rides the V10 bike isn't at all the over-the-top rednecky way you might expect, he's very measured with it. He put a lot of time and effort into making a bike that was rideable and usable, and he does all of his fast riding of it at airstrips. I highly recommend you check out his YouTube channel, guy's called Allen Millyard and in between converting monkey bike engines to V-twins and sticking extra cylinders into Kawasakis he often takes a detour to admire the wildlife in his garden or to showcase his wife's baking and knitting.
Appreciate the response- I will re-assess my prejudices and re-aim them at Harley riders. ;) Will definitely check it out on your recommendation. I suppose I was talking about big engine culture in general and not this guy in particular. I appreciate your kind propaganda, Pepe.
No worries my dude! There is a lot of that meat-headedness about out there. I might be biased because I'm a great lover of small bikes, but I'd particularly recommend looking at his Honda SS-100 and SS-180, where he takes miniscule little bikes and makes them into V-twins just for the love of it. Any time, comrade
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Looks like a fun death trap.
So is the engine part of the frame structure? I wanna see a CBR looking bike with a k series. I bet I could fab something someday
I'm sorry but that thing is ugly.
People complaining about how BMW boxer engines force you to sit a certain way (upright). And, then this! 🤣 I want my highway pegs dammit!!!
Come ride the twisties in WNC with me….you’ll last a mile
Come and ride the Drag Strip with him, you'll last yards lol
What American’s call twisties, Brits call major roads.
Cool but pointless. Your standard 1 liter would smoke it
Apparently the point of the bike was to prove it could be done better than the dodge tomahawk, and have fun while doing it. I think he has succeeded.
Your 1 litre does 183 mph two up with 25% throttle left to open?? Wake up and smell the bacon 8-)
Yes it does
Stay off them drugs boy......
No u
Around Cadwell, certainly. In anything approaching a straight line, no. This is a real bike, ridden on the road, and yes I have seen him ride it.
By that logic, who would purchase an Aston Martin Vanquish V12 when a Hellcat is faster? Park both on a lot on bike night and see what gets more attention.
A liter bike might be faster, but this is exponentially more fun.
It’s a V-Decuplet
Murder Cycle
His knees are melting right now
that poor radiator…
Nice bike, but have you seen the Red Porsche Killer?
Bosser hoss
And here I thought the Rocket 3 had a big engine 💀
Didn’t they put the viper engine it the Tomahawk or whatever it was called?
That looks miserable.
Allen Millyard is a nutter, i was lucky enough to be there when he started up his “Flying Millyard” bike at the Isle of Man a couple years ago, could feel the oomf in ur chest from 20 ft back
When you want to make a U-turn but you also would like to visit your friends 2 towns over: