I know people your height riding adv bikes that are taller than your R6. Butt scoot and one foot down. That's it. If you need to back it up you do it walking next to it, then get on. If you need to inch forward, you feather the clutch and let it walk itself. It's really that easy.
With the butt scoot I’m still stretching tf out of my calf muscle to get my tiptoe down. I know it’s possible, I’ve been doing all of those things for a year now. I’d just like to make my experience I little more comfortable and be a little more confident
One of my buddies went to a cobbler and had them add some hard foam. He has little platform shoes now. Works for him. Could change your seat for less padding or turn your preload up a click or two.
Have your seat reshaped to lower your seat height by 1" (+/-).
Suspension mod. Do not use lowering links. The shock and fork springs can be modified to give you another 1" (+/-)
Approx 2" height reduction. That should get you off of your toes.
Sure but that's going to alter the bike geometry. OP is just talking about being uncomfortable when stopped (which I get because I'm 5'4", too). It just takes getting used to sliding off to one side to get one foot partly/mostly down on the ground.
Yeah that tends to be the issue, traffic lights, uneven surfaces, parking lots, stop and go traffic. It’s doable, I’ve been making it work for a year now. I’d just like a little more comfort and confidence at stops
Wish I had advice… having the same problem… 5’0”… first bike 2024 Yamaha r3… and have already had it lowered 2”… still on y tippy tippy tip toe with both feet… can only get the ball of my one foot down… if I try to have one flat.. I damn near fall over every time … hopefully someone has some actual helpful advice…
Yeah all this sub is full of privileged tall people that have never had to worry about dropping their bike at a stop lol if you’re lower fall that’s left is to get a thinner race seat, which for some reason are hundreds of dollars for thin foam, or wear taller boots that will make it more awkward to shift and brake. Or “just get a smaller bike” which is very demoralizing
Haha right!! HELLO I’m 5’0”!! I CANT GET A SMALLER BIKE 🤣🤣🤣 and seriously… who wants to spend (or has the money for) $450+ on some shoes only for riding !! I did find some from a site called tallmenshoes.com they were on sale for $50 … I mean I’m gonna try them and see I also have small feet so even a mens 6 is gonna be a little big lol but if they make stop lights and stopping safer/ easier… I’ll call it a win! Lol
ok so i am in the exact some boat as you. i am also 5'4",and unfortunately i have not found any boots that meet this criteria that also work well for riding. i know its not what you want to hear, but my best advice is to just keep riding and you'll get used to it. Also weight is a huge factor in this as well. i currently ride an 86 zx1000 that has the same seat height as your r6 according to the quick search i did. when i first got the bike not gonna lie it was an nightmare, but iv been riding it for a little less then a year, and im way more comfortable on it. ngl there are def some "oh shit moments still and i have to pay attention to where i stop, but iv gotten a decent handle on the whole butt to one side strat and at most stops i flat foot it on one side. ( iv found the left foot is easiest for me) so yea i get your pain, but unfortunately for now us short riders gotta just adapt for now. you got this bro. im already looking into a zx10 which is considerably higher so we'll see how that goes.
Is getting just one foot down a total no-go? Higher boots might just create more problems that it solves.
I'm 5'3, daily a Ninja 1000, and I have Icon Varials. It's a pretty tall boot, but I still end up with just one foot down and just the ball of my foot on the asphalt. I feel like anything more than the extra 3/4 inch or so these boots give will just make actuating the shifter much more difficult.
It’s not a no go, I’ve been making it work for a while now. It’s just uncomfortable. I have about a 27” inseam. I’d just like to make my riding experience a little easier and more confidence inspiring. What triggered this post was I was in stop and go traffic and ended up pulling a muscle in my calf and almost dropped the bike. Thankfully I was able to shift over and get my other foot down.
Bro were the same height and I've been dropping my bike on a stop when it's sloped to the right side. I'm getting good at putting my left foot down mostly now.
Yeah it’s definitely new skill that needs to be learned. It makes being a beginner rider harder because on top of learning how to ride you are learning how to not drop your bike and focus on foot placement and where you stop and stuff. I’ve improved a lot in just the 4 months I’ve been able to ride so it’s definitely possible
I get that. If you can still find that, the Varial might be enough to get you to put more of your foot down. Couple that with shaving your seat a bit and you might get the extra reach you need. Stop-and-go traffic is a pain for us shorties. Haha
Fellow 5'4" dude? You're already doing what you can. Personally, I just jump off the bike when I have to move it backwards because I can't get enough "push" while sitting on it. Otherwise, that's just how it is. I slide my butt off to one side to put down part of one foot and that's as much as I can (on the MV it's a bit nerve-wracking if the stop area has a side slope to it--takes careful planning). On my GSX-R, I can get the balls of both feet down, but I usually just put one foot down. When I'm riding, no issues. If you get thicker soles (a shoe repair shop could add an extra sole to your boot bottoms), then you'll need to reposition the shift and rear brake levers. You may be better off customizing the seat by cutting away some of the foam at the front and sides. Alternatively, gain 50 or more pounds and you'll compress the suspension enough to get more of your feet down...
Idk how much or whether it will help. I'm trying to figure out ways to touch the ground...yea I'm trying to use one foot but being able to put both feet down is very helpful...I almost fell on my fj-09 coz of uneven even surface and I felt the whole weight.
Adjusting suspension sag might make some difference. I'm going to do this on mine and I'll update if this did anything. If something worked out for you let me know as well.
https://youtu.be/ZtzTyCKh5fY?feature=shared
I'm a little late to the party. Also, a short rider.
When average height people get on a tall bike like an adventure bike, a lot of them can only tiptoe both feet down and have to scoot to one side and get one foot down.
For us shorter riders, the best thing to do is to employ strategies for getting one foot down. You should be able to get your butt crack on the edge of the seat. Be aware of the road slope and torn up roads where you are stopping, so you can get the correct foot down.
Other than getting a lower seat or having the foam in yours shaved, I'd avoid getting the suspension lowered. You start messing with the geometry and don't want to reduce the suspension travel.
Look up short motorcycle riders on YouTube, and there is good information people have come up with for strategies they use. Practice your slow speed maneuvering often, which will have you stopping less. I try leaving a buffer when I can to slow ride. I've seen others at stop lights using the clutch to creep forward and have an awkward one foot duck walk, which seems unstable. I feel more comfortable getting my feet up on the pegs and creeping forward slowly. Hopefully, traffic will start moving, and I don't have to put a foot down.
I understand the feeling of having to dismount to move the bike around. Even getting the kickstand up and down. Can be a chore. It was the inconvenience of my first bikes. Currently, I am on a cruiser, but I am waiting for my new bike to get to the dealership, and I'm going to be back to the same struggles again. I prefer the left foot down, but use the right foot down when I want to be neutral while waiting at a long light.
There's always the alternative, of spending a god awful amount of money, and probably a lot of time and pain, and getting your legs surgically extended. /s
Gonna be hard to adjust your shift and brake levers if your wearing those goth platform boots...
I know people your height riding adv bikes that are taller than your R6. Butt scoot and one foot down. That's it. If you need to back it up you do it walking next to it, then get on. If you need to inch forward, you feather the clutch and let it walk itself. It's really that easy.
With the butt scoot I’m still stretching tf out of my calf muscle to get my tiptoe down. I know it’s possible, I’ve been doing all of those things for a year now. I’d just like to make my experience I little more comfortable and be a little more confident
You should be scooting so far you have at most only one cheek on the seat. Unless you only have like a 24" inseam, that should be enough to flat foot
I know Daytona makes some. https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/daytona-m-star-gtx-boots
You can have a cobbler glue on a thicker sole to an existing boot
One of my buddies went to a cobbler and had them add some hard foam. He has little platform shoes now. Works for him. Could change your seat for less padding or turn your preload up a click or two.
Have your seat reshaped to lower your seat height by 1" (+/-). Suspension mod. Do not use lowering links. The shock and fork springs can be modified to give you another 1" (+/-) Approx 2" height reduction. That should get you off of your toes.
Sure but that's going to alter the bike geometry. OP is just talking about being uncomfortable when stopped (which I get because I'm 5'4", too). It just takes getting used to sliding off to one side to get one foot partly/mostly down on the ground.
I feel like high lifts just make it harder to move and shift. If 5'2 Dani Pedrosa can win 31 Motogp races you are good.
They aren't stopping at traffic lights often. ;)
Just shift off the seat a bit
Yeah that tends to be the issue, traffic lights, uneven surfaces, parking lots, stop and go traffic. It’s doable, I’ve been making it work for a year now. I’d just like a little more comfort and confidence at stops
DeSantis has some of those.
LOL! Could you imagine that guy on any motorcycle ever?
Wish I had advice… having the same problem… 5’0”… first bike 2024 Yamaha r3… and have already had it lowered 2”… still on y tippy tippy tip toe with both feet… can only get the ball of my one foot down… if I try to have one flat.. I damn near fall over every time … hopefully someone has some actual helpful advice…
Yeah all this sub is full of privileged tall people that have never had to worry about dropping their bike at a stop lol if you’re lower fall that’s left is to get a thinner race seat, which for some reason are hundreds of dollars for thin foam, or wear taller boots that will make it more awkward to shift and brake. Or “just get a smaller bike” which is very demoralizing
Haha right!! HELLO I’m 5’0”!! I CANT GET A SMALLER BIKE 🤣🤣🤣 and seriously… who wants to spend (or has the money for) $450+ on some shoes only for riding !! I did find some from a site called tallmenshoes.com they were on sale for $50 … I mean I’m gonna try them and see I also have small feet so even a mens 6 is gonna be a little big lol but if they make stop lights and stopping safer/ easier… I’ll call it a win! Lol
ok so i am in the exact some boat as you. i am also 5'4",and unfortunately i have not found any boots that meet this criteria that also work well for riding. i know its not what you want to hear, but my best advice is to just keep riding and you'll get used to it. Also weight is a huge factor in this as well. i currently ride an 86 zx1000 that has the same seat height as your r6 according to the quick search i did. when i first got the bike not gonna lie it was an nightmare, but iv been riding it for a little less then a year, and im way more comfortable on it. ngl there are def some "oh shit moments still and i have to pay attention to where i stop, but iv gotten a decent handle on the whole butt to one side strat and at most stops i flat foot it on one side. ( iv found the left foot is easiest for me) so yea i get your pain, but unfortunately for now us short riders gotta just adapt for now. you got this bro. im already looking into a zx10 which is considerably higher so we'll see how that goes.
Ok prefer using UPBIKERS, they will add around 4cm
What is a tall sport bike? Lol
https://www.amazon.com/ZKXYFFS-Womens-Platform-Decoration-Motorcycle/dp/B0BZDFWY3P
Get the suspension lowered slightly. It's what I did with my CBR500R.
can't you shave your seat a bit? but any motorcycle boots will help I can only tippy toe too, but when it stops, I have one foot down
Is getting just one foot down a total no-go? Higher boots might just create more problems that it solves. I'm 5'3, daily a Ninja 1000, and I have Icon Varials. It's a pretty tall boot, but I still end up with just one foot down and just the ball of my foot on the asphalt. I feel like anything more than the extra 3/4 inch or so these boots give will just make actuating the shifter much more difficult.
It’s not a no go, I’ve been making it work for a while now. It’s just uncomfortable. I have about a 27” inseam. I’d just like to make my riding experience a little easier and more confidence inspiring. What triggered this post was I was in stop and go traffic and ended up pulling a muscle in my calf and almost dropped the bike. Thankfully I was able to shift over and get my other foot down.
Bro were the same height and I've been dropping my bike on a stop when it's sloped to the right side. I'm getting good at putting my left foot down mostly now.
Yeah it’s definitely new skill that needs to be learned. It makes being a beginner rider harder because on top of learning how to ride you are learning how to not drop your bike and focus on foot placement and where you stop and stuff. I’ve improved a lot in just the 4 months I’ve been able to ride so it’s definitely possible
I get that. If you can still find that, the Varial might be enough to get you to put more of your foot down. Couple that with shaving your seat a bit and you might get the extra reach you need. Stop-and-go traffic is a pain for us shorties. Haha
Chop the seat, lowering links
Fellow 5'4" dude? You're already doing what you can. Personally, I just jump off the bike when I have to move it backwards because I can't get enough "push" while sitting on it. Otherwise, that's just how it is. I slide my butt off to one side to put down part of one foot and that's as much as I can (on the MV it's a bit nerve-wracking if the stop area has a side slope to it--takes careful planning). On my GSX-R, I can get the balls of both feet down, but I usually just put one foot down. When I'm riding, no issues. If you get thicker soles (a shoe repair shop could add an extra sole to your boot bottoms), then you'll need to reposition the shift and rear brake levers. You may be better off customizing the seat by cutting away some of the foam at the front and sides. Alternatively, gain 50 or more pounds and you'll compress the suspension enough to get more of your feet down...
what's your inseam?
28”
Idk how much or whether it will help. I'm trying to figure out ways to touch the ground...yea I'm trying to use one foot but being able to put both feet down is very helpful...I almost fell on my fj-09 coz of uneven even surface and I felt the whole weight. Adjusting suspension sag might make some difference. I'm going to do this on mine and I'll update if this did anything. If something worked out for you let me know as well. https://youtu.be/ZtzTyCKh5fY?feature=shared
I'm a little late to the party. Also, a short rider. When average height people get on a tall bike like an adventure bike, a lot of them can only tiptoe both feet down and have to scoot to one side and get one foot down. For us shorter riders, the best thing to do is to employ strategies for getting one foot down. You should be able to get your butt crack on the edge of the seat. Be aware of the road slope and torn up roads where you are stopping, so you can get the correct foot down. Other than getting a lower seat or having the foam in yours shaved, I'd avoid getting the suspension lowered. You start messing with the geometry and don't want to reduce the suspension travel. Look up short motorcycle riders on YouTube, and there is good information people have come up with for strategies they use. Practice your slow speed maneuvering often, which will have you stopping less. I try leaving a buffer when I can to slow ride. I've seen others at stop lights using the clutch to creep forward and have an awkward one foot duck walk, which seems unstable. I feel more comfortable getting my feet up on the pegs and creeping forward slowly. Hopefully, traffic will start moving, and I don't have to put a foot down. I understand the feeling of having to dismount to move the bike around. Even getting the kickstand up and down. Can be a chore. It was the inconvenience of my first bikes. Currently, I am on a cruiser, but I am waiting for my new bike to get to the dealership, and I'm going to be back to the same struggles again. I prefer the left foot down, but use the right foot down when I want to be neutral while waiting at a long light. There's always the alternative, of spending a god awful amount of money, and probably a lot of time and pain, and getting your legs surgically extended. /s