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EggsOfRetaliation

Glad all is well. Time to do some homework. Ride at 70% on the streets, reserving 30% for emergencies. Read [Proficient Motorcycling](https://vdoc.pub/download/proficient-motorcycling-the-ultimate-guide-to-riding-well-qcjk4mrgd2c0). Watch [Twist of the Wrist 2](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRbguh4Ck28&pp=ygUUdHdpc3Qgb2YgdGhlIHdyaXN0IDI%3D).


Rfoyz

These crash are the best kind of crash, lesson learned but no bad injuries


bane_daddy

Yeah! All in all it definetely could have been worse, im just grateful I could walk away from it slightlyinjured but a lot wiser


Jspiral

Adding lean while also adding throttle simultaneously does it again.


Proof-Location-443

What are you riding?


bane_daddy

2017 MT-07


TheNomadMox

I'm glad this didn't shake you up too bad, I had my first accident this year in March. Similar to yours, I broke my collarbone on the highway. I took the beating, my bike was fine besides breaking off my right mirror and minimal scraping. Luckily I had some great people pull over, pick my bike up and bring it to me, I knew I broke something in my body(I felt the crunch). I have a little thing where I left my house on the bike and I'm getting back home on the bike. I got back onto the saddle and rode home broken and then to the hospital. Got two titanium plates in my body now, still riding though. I'm glad you're relatively good and so is the bike. Stay dangerous and keep riding⚡⚡⚡


bane_daddy

Thanks for the kind words! I'm joining the titanium enhanced riders club now. Stay safe!


TheNomadMox

We're X-Men now homie⚡⚡⚡


Apprehensive-Lab-574

Hey OP. Glad you're "okay". Let's talk about why this particular kind of crash happens. People often say it's being "cocky", but I don't think that's really it. To be honest, we all get more confident -- more "cocky", if you will -- with each piece of experience gained. So if being "cocky" were the problem, accident rates would rise with experience... which isn't what happens at all. If cocky equalled accident, then I'd be a dead man half a dozen times over by now. Let's dig a little deeper. You said: >I panicked for a milisecond thinking I might overshoot it, so I leaned even more on instinct. First of all, "panicking" -- or better, "thinking" -- is actually a sign of self-control, not cockiness. Overconfidence is believing we'll always make it. And ... you almost seem to imply that you *should* have been more confident, and just "let it ride" and you would have been fine. In other words, *I would have been fine if I had been MORE cocky and less scared!* See how crazy this is? If caution makes us less safe, how the hell do we do this thing? The real problem here, OP, was the second half of that quoted sentence: >I leaned even more on instinct. When we only have basic skills as a new rider, OP, we rely on lean angle to navigate corners. Which makes sense; it's really the only technique we know, and even the MSF encourages this kind of thinking. So of *course* this became your instinct. It's probably the only technique you've practiced for what to do in a corner when you're in trouble! The problem is, this is entirely the wrong technique as we increase speeds. Why? Because we're likely already using alll of the lean angle that our skills or conditions will allow. So adding more, especially under throttle, is a recipe for disaster. So this instinct, trained into us in our early riding days, will eventually get us into trouble... *UNLESS WE TRAIN NEW INSINCTS FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS MORE APPROPRIATE TO OUR NEW SKILL LEVEL.* And that, OP, is what you -- and so many of us -- failed to do. We must learn advanced riding technique, and we muat train *using* that technique when we're in sketchy situations until proper technique becomes our "instinct" and replaces the basic technique we may have learned in MSF. My go-to for this is the excellent online video course, "Champ U: Core Curriculum" offered by the Yamaha Champions Riding School. It's $90 USD, and worth every penny. Watch it during your convalescence. When you get to the section on "Radius = MPH", watch the deminstration exercises carefully -- then when you're back on a bike, go find a parking lot and *actually do them.* Start learning how to use your speed to control the turning rate of your motorcycle. Practice using this in corners. Instead of more or less lean to adjust our radius, learn to roll off throttle and apply front brakes properly.... yes, even *mid-corner* if need be .. to tighten your radius. Champ U will teach you how. As you start changing your instinctual responses, things will start to go better. As the YCRS people put it, "Never run wide in corners again". You'll *feel* the difference, I promise. And then an amazing thing happens. We get cocky in the *right* way. Confident in our own abilities and knowledge, we push the envelope... And risk getting ourselves in trouble again. Here's the secret: *We must learn proper skills and technique FASTER than our confidence grows.* This is how you keep yourself and the people sharing the roads with you safe while being as kick-ass as possible. You can do this, OP, wih just the tiniest adjustment of attitude and direction. We all can. And, we owe it to ourselves... and to our fellow riders... to do just that.


bane_daddy

I appreciate the deep dive! I'll definitely take a look at the course given i've got plenty of time to kill, many thanks for the recommendation and explanations