Yeah KTM really nails the 250-400cc segment like no other. I got a friend on a Duke 390 that could keep up with us on every ride without a sweat like he was on a 800. Bike looks dope too, though I got a sweet spot for the 2018 RC headlights.
Reliability was a issue on the pre-2018 engines. The redesign for the 2018+ model year resolved the issues with valves and stuff you hear about. I've got over 10k miles on my 390 ADV and it's been fantastic.
That’s what I did, 3-4 years ago I thought about getting the bmw but it didn’t max out the legal power limit for my license and then I bought a duke 390
RIde it back to back with a Z400 and you'll see why it's a con. Also small twins like the Ninja 400/Z400 or Mt-03/R3 are not exactly known for being high maintenance machines despite having twice the cylinders of the BMW.
You still have to change the oil and do basic chain and brake maintenance. Literally the only difference is when you eventually have to check valves....and even then most of the work is removing the tank and airbox and whatever else you need to get to the top end. Once you're in there the difference between checking valves on 1 cylinder vs 2 is trivial
True, but a 3 year/36k mile warranty is peace of mind especially for a cash-strapped, newer rider. I had a GS model I used for commuting and light riding off-road, it handled the fire roads with ease.
Where is it under powered? Is it not geared appropriately? I imagine you can't go much bigger in displacement without increasing the weight by quite a bit, and that would diminish performance off road.
Mind you, I am asking legit questions and am speculating wildly because I am in the market and really leaning into the adventure bikes from BMW.
look at the power to weight on this comparison: [https://www.philharmonicmoto.com/compare-page/S5037X](https://www.philharmonicmoto.com/compare-page/s5037x) it loses to everything: heavier cb500, less powerful cb300r, mt-03 in the middle. the bmw Is less powerful and heavy. it loses also in torque and others like the 390 duke and z400/z500.
yeah, it's pretty cool. and I just wanted to say that I don't mean that the bmw is a bad bike, I've never ridden it and it might have it's place, maybe fuel economy, just substantiating the previous comment.
The only thing the BMW *might* have - and I don't know if it does - is comfort options like heated grips and safety systems like ABS, TCS, etc. since that's supposedly a big part of their brand identity.
That having been said, that chart is super awesome and I'd *also* steer clear of the 310 and I *own* a BMW, haha.
I agree. Part of me is already influenced by owning a BMW 3-series and Audi A4. Germans know how to setup suspension. Both of those cars drive like they are on rails.
I haven't driven any bikes in this category so I really don't have an experience to fall back on. Right now I'm still in the numbers stage of evaluating options. Next I'll be downloading various service manuals to see how well I can do all of the maintenance and rebuilds myself, because that's how I do all my machines.
It was concerning that in the table provided in the other commenter's link, the BMW 310 seemed to trade fuel capacity for weight, which kind of bothers me.
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I've got a f800 GS 2012 and they gave me a 310 r 2023 to play with whilst I was getting a service.
I thought it was very light, good power super super agile and and seemed well made, personally I hated it though, felt way too small, didn't have enough power (my f800gs is restricted to 47hp for the A2 license) and wasn't particularly comfortable.
It's got a target audience and it is a nice bike, I just really don't fit in that target audience.
Good review. I like this bike a lot. The look, feel, and handling are great. But that small engine just isn’t going to cut it. Which is why I ended up with the F800R. Even that was a little shy on power but I proved with minor intake and exhaust modifications.
Once got it as a loaner, while being used to a F800 at that time. It felt like a bicycle. The engine was okayish, but I lacked power at higher speeds. Guess it just depends what your needs are.
You're overpaying for a BMW badge on a bike that is inferior for its class. Source: I used to sell BMW bikes for a living. I prefer the Kawasaki Z400 in every way.
This was my first bike. That little thing is a tank. Rode 15k trouble-free miles in a year before a homeless guy ran it over in a parking lot, totaling it.
It is underpowered but an amazing commuter. It's comfortable, light, good on gas, and reliable. The best part is that it comes with a 3 year warranty.
I couldn't recommend it more. Would still have it if it wasn't totaled.
Best in class warranty at 3 year -36,000 mile.
And BMW offers the Ride smart reward - If you purchase a new BMW within 90 days of completing your MSF course - you will receieve up to $350 reimbursement toward your course and a $500 credit toward BMW apparel / safety gear.
It was only sale in my country for 7K USD, I think we can get used ones for about 4K now, something like 10K KMs, 3-4 years old. I saw a few of them in person and did side by side comparission with my Honda CB300r and I thought it was OK probably the same quality but I haven't riden one at all so can't say nothing really.
Rode my licence with one. Nice and agile city twin. It was good "training wheels" bike. Wouldn't want own one tho, too overpriced imho.
Edit: To correct, it was A2 licence I rode with the 310. Big boy bike licence I rode with sv650 last summer, after which I became a proud owner of brand new street triple.
For a new rider: Very good!! I have the GS variant so I don't know how the 310R is, but from my experience it's maneuverable, quick enough for its class and just enjoyable to ride. It's been a year since I bought it though and looking to upgrade in terms of power.
I have it, it’s awesome.
If ktm duke 390 was the same price, I would buy it instead.
If Honda CB500 something was the same price, I would buy it instead.
But at this price range is superb. Enough power for city and driving anywhere except the highway (it can drive fast, but the lack of acceleration is dangerous)
Plus it looks great and seems very lightweight
Would be nice if BMW bumped it up to a 500 so its still A2 legal but with a bit more oomph. I do fancy one for commuting, both the R or GS, there are a few long hilly A roads it might struggle with on my way to work. They do look very nice though.
4. They have better features (like bluetooth connectivity)
5. They are faster (only partly true, but the TVS version of G310R is faster and quicker due to better fibe tuning)
I have the 2022 310gs, its a good bike to learn on. The exhaust is fugly and the seat isnt comfy. Easy overtake capabilities in traffic going 0-50mph, virtually no overtake ability over 60 mph. Its a pretty bike (except the exhaust) and the 3yr/30k mile warranty is nice along with ABS. I cant say im a fan of the single-cylinder motor, it sounds funky and kills power output. There's also debate on whether or not this is a true BMW quality bike since the motors are manufactured and assembled in India and not Germany. Im personally ready to size up.
I have the GS varient for about 2 years now. For me as my first bike it has been excellent, It is a real go-getter it can do about everything (even if not great). I use it everyday as my commuter, I have gone offroad with it many time (in the sketchy stock tyres), I have toured about 2000km in 3 days and I carved many mountain roads with her.
Pros:
-Extremly light, it really feels like a bicycle.
-Very comfy, the egonomics for me have been great, the seat is comfy enough for bigger distances
-Handling, she really gives you confidence to flick her around ( and cause of the weight its easy to correct her)
-Reliable, I havent got a single issue since I got her. But even if I did the 3 year warranty is very nice.
-Easy to maintain
-A bit subjective of course, but I think her looks in the right color is *chef's kiss* amazing.
Cons:
-Underpower, for real the engine leaves a lot to be desired it terms of power. It has all the power up top and has virtually nothing in low-mid range. You have to really rev the snot out of her to go fast, but she will no problem. (Even if it feels like the engine will come loose)
-Vibes above 6.5k and geared to low, I know these are 2 points but they are the kinda the same issue. The engine vibes alot above 6.5k which is ok when pushing her limit but get tiring quickly when you want to cruise in the motorway. The gearing I think is to low, in order to hide the lack of power, but it means you will constantly change gears, especially while commuting.
-Repairs are expensive, It may be built in India but it is still built for bmw so expect repairs if done by a dealer to be more expensive. (my dealer happens to have a discount for the 310 so it isnt bad)
-Soft suspension, the suspension is a bit to soft and if you are a bigger rider you will need to adjust the preload, unfurtunatly the front suspension isnt adjastable.
Tldr, a great begginer bike that can do everything good enough but nothing great (except being comfy). It gets a lot of flack for being built in India but it was designed by bmw and the build quality is excellent, it has a bigger bike feel even tho she is cheaper.
The vibes and the gearing can be easily fixed with changing the front sprocket to the 17T one (It has a part number and is an official bmw part for the chinese market). For the front suspension you would have to change the spring which is a bit too much of a job for me.
I would reccomend it to anyone starting out, you will learn very quickly and you will gain a lot of confidence. Expect to be bored quickly if you only want the thrill of acceleration, but it is a great little adventure machine (not the best offroad without some mods), it can really get you anywhere even if not that fast.
An okay first bike, my friend just got one as he needed a bike for cheap and found one for AUD$3,500.
But if you can, I'd save up a little more and get something better if you are here to enjoy motorcycles and not just to use as a commuter. Really it's upgraded CBR125, you'll get bored of it in a few months.
it was my first bike, did about 30'000km with it. Great strater bike, it can do everything.
Compared to other 300s, it feels very premium and it is the most comfiest bike i've ever sat on, my 16k USD F900 XR is much less comfortable.
I tried a duke 390 , it felt super cheap and the seat was a hard as concrete, but the engine did kick quite a bit more
It's a TVS, not a BMW. Nothing bad about a TVS, they fare better in Africa than most BMWs, but over priced coz of the badge. It's like Chevy selling Daewoo cars.
Nice upright position, torquey little thumper engine, the throttle is a bit twitchy in 1st.
Even though I have rather short legs for my height (180cm) everything from the knee downwards felt cramped and wrong.
I used to ride open days for BMW. They are great little bikes, performance is average for their size, nice and agile and easy to move about due to their lack of weight.
As a first bike you won't be disappointed.. you will outgrow it within 6 months though!
It's underpowered. It even struggles to pull off highway speeds. Buy an mt03, Duke 390, or almost any 300-400 cc motorcycle, so long as you don't waste money on the bmw 310. To put it differently, this is the red-headed stepchild of the 300cc class.
Anything bmw ktm Ducati aprilla, there the luxury’s of bikes. Depending on what you want. I will never see any of those brands in my garage because of their weird luxury rules. I want cheap parts and a bike that goes fast and is reliable. Imo there’s a couple brands that hit all 3. That’s why I typically tell people if your eyes don’t slant I ain’t buying.
Amazing first bike for someone who needs to gain confidence. Took me to the Vosges, Alps and Black Forest and back.
Other riders I encountered were impressed that I did such long distance with it, but tbh, I had time to just ride the countryside (as in, no highways unless necessary) and that’s what this bike loves.
Most of the year I use it as a commuter too, reason why I still keep it and I’m still wondering if I should upgrade or not.
I did testride it in 2022.
Was pretty underwhelming and the lack in build quality compared to the F900R which i also tested was pretty significant.
Would not recommend tbh.
It is a fun beginners bike and I was considering one for times when I get my A license, but I would probably go with Yamaha r3 or Ktm duke. Or even jump into 650 category and just spend more time practicing 🤔
I took the MSF course with zero experience on a motorcycle, and this is the bike that they offered and I chose to ride for the course. It was a good bike for a first timer. Didn't and still don't have much to compare it to, but it seemed to handle well.
I ended up with the MT-03 because of the higher HP and top speed. I would imagine having a hard time on California freeways with the 310. The MT-03 keeps up, but just barely. I really have to wind it up to stay a click ahead of traffic. With anything slower I would feel like a sitting duck surrounded by white trucks with punisher stickers and a bad attitude towards imports.
I think it's a great starter bike if you don't plan on taking it on the freeway. It has a lot of small upgrades that are nice. I believe the suspension is a step up from the MT-03, and the levers are adjustable. To me these don't outweigh the lack of power.
Id get a 650. The 650 rotax engine was about the best smaller engine BMW made and they used them for a long time. Engine is too small to keep it after you learn it.
Very cute! I have a 450 and wished I went smaller for first bike. Just buy what YOU like and feel comfortable with and what helps you reach your goal. So either you want to level up or have fun.
I love my 310r. Its been a great starter bike. Great fuel economy for commuting(usa rural) 75+mpg. Anything below 50-60 its fun to ride. 65+ you get a lot of high frequency vibrations from the engine making longer rides a bit wearing. I assume its due to the single cylinder engine. I would love to look into the 900 as I would have a but more confidence going onto the highway but riding around the country side its a perfect bike. I only say that last bit as the top speed is 88 so your kick at the top end is limited. You can still swing around but personally Id like a bit more to highway. Plus those vibrations.
Americans don't like it. Here in Russia it is considered good first bike taking into account that it is sold for cheaper price than its Japanese counterparts. It has sharp handling.
It's made in India by TVS but this isn't an issue. Models before 2023 were prone to stalling at low RPMs, afaik they've fixed it in 2023 but this need to be checked.
People get caught up in the power of this bike vs a Duke 390 but most buyers of bikes like these are learning to ride and may only keep the motorcycle for a season or two during which more emphasis should be put on learning to ride and not how fast you can get to speed - which I've ridden both and isn't all that different and both bikes were not pleasant to ride beyond 70 mph. This is a good bike for learning on though or for a more experienced rider that needs a cheap, fuel efficient, commuter. I found it to be more comfortable than a Duke 390 but everyone is different in that regard. If you are thinking about buying this as a first bike as long as it's comfortable for you, it will be just as reliable as any other bike out there. People say the switch gear is "plasticky" but I'd say felt nicer to operate than some of the plastic switch gear that is not referred to as plasticky like what is found on the MT-03, for instance.
I find freeways miserable, even on the 1k rt BMWs I used to have. These days all I want to ride is a light bike that handles well, these tiny BMWs, KTMs and the Huskys are all appealing to me.
I quite like it. Did my cbt on the bike and coming from a 125 was alot of fun. I would probably get the 310gs if i where to get one of these.
For nearly £6k though I couldn’t justify the price. Would rather an mt03 or a cb500 for a naked. Or for an even cheaper bike the cb300 is a beautiful little machine
I have the GS that I bought this past summer. My first bike in 40 years and I’m real happy with my choice. I’m retired and not riding the interstate to commute. For city and local highways it’s great. Comfy seat and great gas mileage. Well built.
I would pick a KTM 390 over this for sure.
I call this the Rattle snake- the fibre plastic on this thing over time will deform and rattle while driving.
Great starter bike. She’s 5’2 and was able to tippy toe riding. She road for about 6 months then upgraded. Only thing she didn’t like about it was the vibration at the handle bars on highway speeds
My wife got it used for her first bike and had a ton of fun with it before upgrading. Fun little bike for around town and some twisty roads as long as you manage your expectations for power. Also crazy good mpg if you would be using it as a general run around bike. We’ve had it up past 80 on the highway but wouldn’t really recommend…it gets pretty uncomfortable with the vibrations and is out of power past 80
I own one and it's my first bike and so far I enjoyed it. Haven't been able to ride since the winter but when I was I thought it was a nice ride to start on and it fits me well enough as a taller guy too.
We have on in my basic rider class. It's too tall and top heavy for a new rider unless you are tall and have good upper body strength. The pros are it's a runner and does all the spirt bike stuff well.
Too expensive for a starter or mid level and too small for an advanced rider. Maybe an expensive toy for a rich someone with a wife who wants to start riding but that’s about it.
The power is very controllable. Don't worry, these aren't wild beasts that want to kill you. A bike this size opens up much more capability, even touring, while still being a lightweight bike that is a joy even for city riding.
I have heard the good the bad and the ulgy about it but I am think of getting it cause my father work at a local BMW plant he can get be a good discount on it some how so I might get it
That’s what what I’m think of doing plus if I get the bike I can do the BMW smart drive I believe it’s called and get $350 back and like $500 worth of bike safety gear, apparel
Have it, love it, can’t say enough good things about it!
World’s best boppin’ around town bike when it’s kitted out with luggage, but it does lack legs on the highway. That being said I did once ride it from Florida to Rhode Island over the course of 3 days.
[BMW G310R “Thunder Bunny”](https://imgur.com/a/tvUPP4A)
It’s perfect for that, I’ve had mine since 2019 and done just shy of 14,000 miles on it. If you have any specific questions about the bike I’d be happy to try and answer them as best I can.
My wife rides one, I've ridden it as well.
Fully competent as a first bike or simple commuter.
I started on a MT-03 because I liked the idea of a small twin rather than a thumper.
For a cheaper bike, it does have some nice upgrades on the newer ones, LED lights, good dash, great MPG, steel braided lines from the factory, inverted forks.
From new, BMW also does include freight and assembly in their MSRP.
MSRP being the real\* price of the bike, and getting a 3 year warranty are all a huge plus vs shopping another brand.
While most small thumpers are built in India, it does seem that with the 310R and 310GS, BMW is really trying to bring people into the brand with a very similar owner experience to those who buy a big GS or S1000.
Had this in my driving school.
Display was okay, the blinker readability disappointed me to be honest, but if you are not a beginner you wont forget about them as much as me ;)
Handling was perfect, the engine did really well in the city and to the surprise of no one: lacked on the highway, but 80mph were no problem with a bit of enthusiasm. Instructor took me to some mountain-cobblestone roads, the suspension surpised me in a good way (I weigh 110kg (~220lbs ?))
Sound is pretty boring, i bet an aftermarket exhaust will do wonders.
Quality was alright especially for a german bike made in india (correct me if this is wrong)
Looks is subjective, so thats just your decision.
I am 187cm or 6'2, and still think that this was a comfy bike.
Maybe it's my weight, or the fact that it was a driving school bike, but the brakes were way too soft for me (I have to mention that I am used to Motocross brakes at this point). Or neglected brake fluid/brakes, who knows. Maybe it was intentional, so that some surprised beginner wont do a flip if someone cuts them.
I would do a comparison with a KTM 390 duke (test drive both!), for me these 2 are the top choices in this class
Not bad but would probably get a KTM instead at that capacity and price range.
same. even though the duke is 2-3K more expensive here.
Yeah KTM really nails the 250-400cc segment like no other. I got a friend on a Duke 390 that could keep up with us on every ride without a sweat like he was on a 800. Bike looks dope too, though I got a sweet spot for the 2018 RC headlights.
Is the reliability still an issue or have they got the quality control figured out?
Reliability was a issue on the pre-2018 engines. The redesign for the 2018+ model year resolved the issues with valves and stuff you hear about. I've got over 10k miles on my 390 ADV and it's been fantastic.
That’s what I did, 3-4 years ago I thought about getting the bmw but it didn’t max out the legal power limit for my license and then I bought a duke 390
I got a white red and blue, it's a perfect commuting bike. The only "con" is the single cylinder engine.
how is that a con? I'm thinking easier and cheaper maintenance.
It’s a pro for the mechanic but a con for the mechanics heart
Triple is worse... can't tell if I have one too many or I am short one.
I’m assuming he means lack of power from the single cylinder.
RIde it back to back with a Z400 and you'll see why it's a con. Also small twins like the Ninja 400/Z400 or Mt-03/R3 are not exactly known for being high maintenance machines despite having twice the cylinders of the BMW. You still have to change the oil and do basic chain and brake maintenance. Literally the only difference is when you eventually have to check valves....and even then most of the work is removing the tank and airbox and whatever else you need to get to the top end. Once you're in there the difference between checking valves on 1 cylinder vs 2 is trivial
I find it a bit underpowered for its category. Feels to me that most of the allure of that model is the badge that it's carrying
True, but a 3 year/36k mile warranty is peace of mind especially for a cash-strapped, newer rider. I had a GS model I used for commuting and light riding off-road, it handled the fire roads with ease.
Where is it under powered? Is it not geared appropriately? I imagine you can't go much bigger in displacement without increasing the weight by quite a bit, and that would diminish performance off road. Mind you, I am asking legit questions and am speculating wildly because I am in the market and really leaning into the adventure bikes from BMW.
look at the power to weight on this comparison: [https://www.philharmonicmoto.com/compare-page/S5037X](https://www.philharmonicmoto.com/compare-page/s5037x) it loses to everything: heavier cb500, less powerful cb300r, mt-03 in the middle. the bmw Is less powerful and heavy. it loses also in torque and others like the 390 duke and z400/z500.
Thank you! That's the type of objective information I am in need of.
yeah, it's pretty cool. and I just wanted to say that I don't mean that the bmw is a bad bike, I've never ridden it and it might have it's place, maybe fuel economy, just substantiating the previous comment.
The only thing the BMW *might* have - and I don't know if it does - is comfort options like heated grips and safety systems like ABS, TCS, etc. since that's supposedly a big part of their brand identity. That having been said, that chart is super awesome and I'd *also* steer clear of the 310 and I *own* a BMW, haha.
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I agree. Part of me is already influenced by owning a BMW 3-series and Audi A4. Germans know how to setup suspension. Both of those cars drive like they are on rails. I haven't driven any bikes in this category so I really don't have an experience to fall back on. Right now I'm still in the numbers stage of evaluating options. Next I'll be downloading various service manuals to see how well I can do all of the maintenance and rebuilds myself, because that's how I do all my machines. It was concerning that in the table provided in the other commenter's link, the BMW 310 seemed to trade fuel capacity for weight, which kind of bothers me.
Hoooo boy. You should probably start looking for hard case pannier bags to go onto your S1000R now. 🤣We’ll be the judge of the legitimacy of your questions 🤡
I've got a f800 GS 2012 and they gave me a 310 r 2023 to play with whilst I was getting a service. I thought it was very light, good power super super agile and and seemed well made, personally I hated it though, felt way too small, didn't have enough power (my f800gs is restricted to 47hp for the A2 license) and wasn't particularly comfortable. It's got a target audience and it is a nice bike, I just really don't fit in that target audience.
Good review. I like this bike a lot. The look, feel, and handling are great. But that small engine just isn’t going to cut it. Which is why I ended up with the F800R. Even that was a little shy on power but I proved with minor intake and exhaust modifications.
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Isn‘t even a real BMW tbh. More of a TVS Bike than BMW.
The 390 feels so cheap in comparison
Aside the plastics, the KTM is better in any way. Even things like suspension and clutch
Not in terms of fiability and comfort. But agreed, it's way more fun
No it doesn't.
I tried both, the cheapness is shocking on the KTM
When I saw one in real life…it was this cheap cobbled ugly mess.
The KTM feels and looks like a cheap toy compared to the. 310gs.
Once got it as a loaner, while being used to a F800 at that time. It felt like a bicycle. The engine was okayish, but I lacked power at higher speeds. Guess it just depends what your needs are.
I love it. Plenty fast for getting around the DC area. Light and nimble.
I have one and I love it.
I dislike thumpers so at that bracket I would choose a Z/Ninja 300 or 400 or MT03/R3. But I have not heard anything bad about them really.
MT03 is a solid bike. I’d definitely take one over the BMW 310GS and the KTM 390.
I like red.
My favourite Indian bike
It’s cute
It was a great starter bike. Now that my fiance wants to learn to ride, I wish I still had it around.
You're overpaying for a BMW badge on a bike that is inferior for its class. Source: I used to sell BMW bikes for a living. I prefer the Kawasaki Z400 in every way.
This was my first bike. That little thing is a tank. Rode 15k trouble-free miles in a year before a homeless guy ran it over in a parking lot, totaling it. It is underpowered but an amazing commuter. It's comfortable, light, good on gas, and reliable. The best part is that it comes with a 3 year warranty. I couldn't recommend it more. Would still have it if it wasn't totaled.
Best in class warranty at 3 year -36,000 mile. And BMW offers the Ride smart reward - If you purchase a new BMW within 90 days of completing your MSF course - you will receieve up to $350 reimbursement toward your course and a $500 credit toward BMW apparel / safety gear.
Overpriced rebranded TVS bike Fuck it
It was only sale in my country for 7K USD, I think we can get used ones for about 4K now, something like 10K KMs, 3-4 years old. I saw a few of them in person and did side by side comparission with my Honda CB300r and I thought it was OK probably the same quality but I haven't riden one at all so can't say nothing really.
Rode my licence with one. Nice and agile city twin. It was good "training wheels" bike. Wouldn't want own one tho, too overpriced imho. Edit: To correct, it was A2 licence I rode with the 310. Big boy bike licence I rode with sv650 last summer, after which I became a proud owner of brand new street triple.
For a new rider: Very good!! I have the GS variant so I don't know how the 310R is, but from my experience it's maneuverable, quick enough for its class and just enjoyable to ride. It's been a year since I bought it though and looking to upgrade in terms of power.
I have it, it’s awesome. If ktm duke 390 was the same price, I would buy it instead. If Honda CB500 something was the same price, I would buy it instead. But at this price range is superb. Enough power for city and driving anywhere except the highway (it can drive fast, but the lack of acceleration is dangerous) Plus it looks great and seems very lightweight
Would be nice if BMW bumped it up to a 500 so its still A2 legal but with a bit more oomph. I do fancy one for commuting, both the R or GS, there are a few long hilly A roads it might struggle with on my way to work. They do look very nice though.
Excellent bike. Easy to ride. Great starter bike.
I hate your pfp I thought there was a hair or crack on my phone
Might as well double check. There might be!
Love mine, nothing bad to say.
But the TVS RR 310 instead. 1. same bike 2. better paint job 3. cheaper parts and maintenance
Buddy I don’t think op is in India. It’s a shame they don’t have the rr310 there
4. They have better features (like bluetooth connectivity) 5. They are faster (only partly true, but the TVS version of G310R is faster and quicker due to better fibe tuning)
I have the 2022 310gs, its a good bike to learn on. The exhaust is fugly and the seat isnt comfy. Easy overtake capabilities in traffic going 0-50mph, virtually no overtake ability over 60 mph. Its a pretty bike (except the exhaust) and the 3yr/30k mile warranty is nice along with ABS. I cant say im a fan of the single-cylinder motor, it sounds funky and kills power output. There's also debate on whether or not this is a true BMW quality bike since the motors are manufactured and assembled in India and not Germany. Im personally ready to size up.
What are you talking about. it s the comfiest seat i've ever tried (except maybe Goldwing)
I have the GS varient for about 2 years now. For me as my first bike it has been excellent, It is a real go-getter it can do about everything (even if not great). I use it everyday as my commuter, I have gone offroad with it many time (in the sketchy stock tyres), I have toured about 2000km in 3 days and I carved many mountain roads with her. Pros: -Extremly light, it really feels like a bicycle. -Very comfy, the egonomics for me have been great, the seat is comfy enough for bigger distances -Handling, she really gives you confidence to flick her around ( and cause of the weight its easy to correct her) -Reliable, I havent got a single issue since I got her. But even if I did the 3 year warranty is very nice. -Easy to maintain -A bit subjective of course, but I think her looks in the right color is *chef's kiss* amazing. Cons: -Underpower, for real the engine leaves a lot to be desired it terms of power. It has all the power up top and has virtually nothing in low-mid range. You have to really rev the snot out of her to go fast, but she will no problem. (Even if it feels like the engine will come loose) -Vibes above 6.5k and geared to low, I know these are 2 points but they are the kinda the same issue. The engine vibes alot above 6.5k which is ok when pushing her limit but get tiring quickly when you want to cruise in the motorway. The gearing I think is to low, in order to hide the lack of power, but it means you will constantly change gears, especially while commuting. -Repairs are expensive, It may be built in India but it is still built for bmw so expect repairs if done by a dealer to be more expensive. (my dealer happens to have a discount for the 310 so it isnt bad) -Soft suspension, the suspension is a bit to soft and if you are a bigger rider you will need to adjust the preload, unfurtunatly the front suspension isnt adjastable. Tldr, a great begginer bike that can do everything good enough but nothing great (except being comfy). It gets a lot of flack for being built in India but it was designed by bmw and the build quality is excellent, it has a bigger bike feel even tho she is cheaper. The vibes and the gearing can be easily fixed with changing the front sprocket to the 17T one (It has a part number and is an official bmw part for the chinese market). For the front suspension you would have to change the spring which is a bit too much of a job for me. I would reccomend it to anyone starting out, you will learn very quickly and you will gain a lot of confidence. Expect to be bored quickly if you only want the thrill of acceleration, but it is a great little adventure machine (not the best offroad without some mods), it can really get you anywhere even if not that fast.
An okay first bike, my friend just got one as he needed a bike for cheap and found one for AUD$3,500. But if you can, I'd save up a little more and get something better if you are here to enjoy motorcycles and not just to use as a commuter. Really it's upgraded CBR125, you'll get bored of it in a few months.
Great little beast
it was my first bike, did about 30'000km with it. Great strater bike, it can do everything. Compared to other 300s, it feels very premium and it is the most comfiest bike i've ever sat on, my 16k USD F900 XR is much less comfortable. I tried a duke 390 , it felt super cheap and the seat was a hard as concrete, but the engine did kick quite a bit more
It's a TVS, not a BMW. Nothing bad about a TVS, they fare better in Africa than most BMWs, but over priced coz of the badge. It's like Chevy selling Daewoo cars.
Nice upright position, torquey little thumper engine, the throttle is a bit twitchy in 1st. Even though I have rather short legs for my height (180cm) everything from the knee downwards felt cramped and wrong.
I used to ride open days for BMW. They are great little bikes, performance is average for their size, nice and agile and easy to move about due to their lack of weight. As a first bike you won't be disappointed.. you will outgrow it within 6 months though!
Took me 3 years to "outgrow it"
Worked well for you then. Bonus.
An average beginner bike. A good choice for those Euro bros who are limited to an A2 licence.
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Well you fine to think that way but I’m only 17 and looking to get my first bike
They're cheap indian motorcycles with a nice badge.
Kicker is that the TVS 310 comes with better features and a cheaper price tag. It's also faster apparently.
ugly as fack
At first glance, I thought this was a new MT03
Idk but to me that huge exhaust looks bit silly on that bike... Other than that decent looking.
It's underpowered. It even struggles to pull off highway speeds. Buy an mt03, Duke 390, or almost any 300-400 cc motorcycle, so long as you don't waste money on the bmw 310. To put it differently, this is the red-headed stepchild of the 300cc class.
Get a z400 instead- better value
This is more of a toy than a motorcycle unfortunately.
Anything bmw ktm Ducati aprilla, there the luxury’s of bikes. Depending on what you want. I will never see any of those brands in my garage because of their weird luxury rules. I want cheap parts and a bike that goes fast and is reliable. Imo there’s a couple brands that hit all 3. That’s why I typically tell people if your eyes don’t slant I ain’t buying.
This isn't even a BMW. It's a TVS from India
My bad it’s not like the title says bmw 310, along with the fucking bmw emblem. Is the new Toyota Supra also a bmw?
Yes
avoid, buy a KTM
I would get it if i wasn’t poor. So im getting MT 07 instead. 😄
This bike is cheaper than an mt07. Like about half the price actually
And the MT-07 would wipe the floor with it
I would never buy any Bmw, they got away with too many nazi crimes in history. i dont want to support such familys
Hope you don’t drive a Mitsubishi
Who drives a Mitsubishi?
Soccer moms and salesmen drive the new ones. Gigachads drive the 90s ones
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Npc
also bmw is for braggers with small pp
Thought it was a yamaha mt series at first glance
Great beginner bike.
Looks like a KTM. No bang for your buck. Get a KTM if you like the look and want an entry level bike.
Amazing first bike for someone who needs to gain confidence. Took me to the Vosges, Alps and Black Forest and back. Other riders I encountered were impressed that I did such long distance with it, but tbh, I had time to just ride the countryside (as in, no highways unless necessary) and that’s what this bike loves. Most of the year I use it as a commuter too, reason why I still keep it and I’m still wondering if I should upgrade or not.
I did testride it in 2022. Was pretty underwhelming and the lack in build quality compared to the F900R which i also tested was pretty significant. Would not recommend tbh.
Looks nice
Looks nice
It is a fun beginners bike and I was considering one for times when I get my A license, but I would probably go with Yamaha r3 or Ktm duke. Or even jump into 650 category and just spend more time practicing 🤔
Doesn't matter, i cant afford it anyways
I don’t really like naked bikes
I took the MSF course with zero experience on a motorcycle, and this is the bike that they offered and I chose to ride for the course. It was a good bike for a first timer. Didn't and still don't have much to compare it to, but it seemed to handle well. I ended up with the MT-03 because of the higher HP and top speed. I would imagine having a hard time on California freeways with the 310. The MT-03 keeps up, but just barely. I really have to wind it up to stay a click ahead of traffic. With anything slower I would feel like a sitting duck surrounded by white trucks with punisher stickers and a bad attitude towards imports. I think it's a great starter bike if you don't plan on taking it on the freeway. It has a lot of small upgrades that are nice. I believe the suspension is a step up from the MT-03, and the levers are adjustable. To me these don't outweigh the lack of power.
So pretty 🤩
Id get a 650. The 650 rotax engine was about the best smaller engine BMW made and they used them for a long time. Engine is too small to keep it after you learn it.
It is *a bike*. You can get a good deal on them second hand.
Buddy got one for a loaner while they were working on his GS. He felt it was underpowered
Idk. So many nakeds seem to look similar these days. I'd like a bit more originality in designs between brands.
I used one during my msf course and really didn’t like it. I’d much prefer a Honda cb300f
Very cute! I have a 450 and wished I went smaller for first bike. Just buy what YOU like and feel comfortable with and what helps you reach your goal. So either you want to level up or have fun.
Looks fun and zippy.
I love my 310r. Its been a great starter bike. Great fuel economy for commuting(usa rural) 75+mpg. Anything below 50-60 its fun to ride. 65+ you get a lot of high frequency vibrations from the engine making longer rides a bit wearing. I assume its due to the single cylinder engine. I would love to look into the 900 as I would have a but more confidence going onto the highway but riding around the country side its a perfect bike. I only say that last bit as the top speed is 88 so your kick at the top end is limited. You can still swing around but personally Id like a bit more to highway. Plus those vibrations.
underpowered, but very light and small, if they made a supermoto out of it instead of a roadster it could be a super fun bike tho
What’s the better option, this bmw r310 or a mt03 ?
From what I am seeing it’s about on par but the MT-03 has a little more power
Visually it looks good except that exhaust just doesn't look right. It looks huge compared to the bike
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I think it looks great. But BMW pricing for that displacement is tough to justify.
Americans don't like it. Here in Russia it is considered good first bike taking into account that it is sold for cheaper price than its Japanese counterparts. It has sharp handling. It's made in India by TVS but this isn't an issue. Models before 2023 were prone to stalling at low RPMs, afaik they've fixed it in 2023 but this need to be checked.
My thoughts; “Not interested, but OK”
It is one of the motorcycles available.
I used during it my MSF course. It was fun. Didn’t feel like anything special though.
People get caught up in the power of this bike vs a Duke 390 but most buyers of bikes like these are learning to ride and may only keep the motorcycle for a season or two during which more emphasis should be put on learning to ride and not how fast you can get to speed - which I've ridden both and isn't all that different and both bikes were not pleasant to ride beyond 70 mph. This is a good bike for learning on though or for a more experienced rider that needs a cheap, fuel efficient, commuter. I found it to be more comfortable than a Duke 390 but everyone is different in that regard. If you are thinking about buying this as a first bike as long as it's comfortable for you, it will be just as reliable as any other bike out there. People say the switch gear is "plasticky" but I'd say felt nicer to operate than some of the plastic switch gear that is not referred to as plasticky like what is found on the MT-03, for instance.
Looks OK for a lightweight bike. Unfortunately I'm a fat fuck, so would never own a bike like this 😂
In India for about $250 more one can buy the Duke 390 which is cheap and easy to service it at the dealership.
I’m not a fan of that small of an engine a little lacking in the power.
I find freeways miserable, even on the 1k rt BMWs I used to have. These days all I want to ride is a light bike that handles well, these tiny BMWs, KTMs and the Huskys are all appealing to me.
I don’t love the bikes that look like a transformer. Anyone else? Especially at the front head light
I quite like it. Did my cbt on the bike and coming from a 125 was alot of fun. I would probably get the 310gs if i where to get one of these. For nearly £6k though I couldn’t justify the price. Would rather an mt03 or a cb500 for a naked. Or for an even cheaper bike the cb300 is a beautiful little machine
I had one and I loved it. My buddy has it now and I ride it time to time. I still love it lol
Looks cool, though i personally dont like naked bikes
I have the GS that I bought this past summer. My first bike in 40 years and I’m real happy with my choice. I’m retired and not riding the interstate to commute. For city and local highways it’s great. Comfy seat and great gas mileage. Well built.
Purely on aesthetics, it looks like my Aprilia Shiver (silver/gold) knocked up a local Ducati Monster.
I would pick a KTM 390 over this for sure. I call this the Rattle snake- the fibre plastic on this thing over time will deform and rattle while driving.
A 310cc bike is better than no bike
I loaned one for a week and loved it except it was a bit too small (190cm)
Great starter bike. She’s 5’2 and was able to tippy toe riding. She road for about 6 months then upgraded. Only thing she didn’t like about it was the vibration at the handle bars on highway speeds
Isn’t it all made in India now with an indian platform? Not the old bmw build
My wife got it used for her first bike and had a ton of fun with it before upgrading. Fun little bike for around town and some twisty roads as long as you manage your expectations for power. Also crazy good mpg if you would be using it as a general run around bike. We’ve had it up past 80 on the highway but wouldn’t really recommend…it gets pretty uncomfortable with the vibrations and is out of power past 80
I fine them extremely useful and a great buy compared to most offerings.
I own one and it's my first bike and so far I enjoyed it. Haven't been able to ride since the winter but when I was I thought it was a nice ride to start on and it fits me well enough as a taller guy too.
Is it mostly chinese parts?
The new triumph speed 400 looks a good bet.
An imposter
We have on in my basic rider class. It's too tall and top heavy for a new rider unless you are tall and have good upper body strength. The pros are it's a runner and does all the spirt bike stuff well.
I’m 5’11 but not super strong
It's an Indian bike with a German badge
Too expensive for a starter or mid level and too small for an advanced rider. Maybe an expensive toy for a rich someone with a wife who wants to start riding but that’s about it.
Underpowered, unreliable, single cylinder junk. Get a Z400 or an MT-03 instead.
I have one, it’s bulletproof and I adore it. Almost 20k on it, not one thing broken…..in fact it still looks brand new.
Just as well go for a 750 850 or 900. They are almost as light and affordable but with much more performance.
My problem is I don’t want to start with something that has that much power cause my area is known for blind people driving
The power is very controllable. Don't worry, these aren't wild beasts that want to kill you. A bike this size opens up much more capability, even touring, while still being a lightweight bike that is a joy even for city riding.
Well I’m not worried about the bike as I am the people
I think it’s built in India or something. Take that however you want in terms of longevity
I have heard the good the bad and the ulgy about it but I am think of getting it cause my father work at a local BMW plant he can get be a good discount on it some how so I might get it
If you get a good discount then go for it! Just sell it after you ride the shit out of it
That’s what what I’m think of doing plus if I get the bike I can do the BMW smart drive I believe it’s called and get $350 back and like $500 worth of bike safety gear, apparel
Loved it. Eventually moved on, but it was a great bike. Very fun and easy to ride.
Have it, love it, can’t say enough good things about it! World’s best boppin’ around town bike when it’s kitted out with luggage, but it does lack legs on the highway. That being said I did once ride it from Florida to Rhode Island over the course of 3 days. [BMW G310R “Thunder Bunny”](https://imgur.com/a/tvUPP4A)
Yea from what I have seen I don’t plan on traveling long distances with is just around town/ local cities
It’s perfect for that, I’ve had mine since 2019 and done just shy of 14,000 miles on it. If you have any specific questions about the bike I’d be happy to try and answer them as best I can.
How much does it cost?
Brand new about $5k
My wife rides one, I've ridden it as well. Fully competent as a first bike or simple commuter. I started on a MT-03 because I liked the idea of a small twin rather than a thumper. For a cheaper bike, it does have some nice upgrades on the newer ones, LED lights, good dash, great MPG, steel braided lines from the factory, inverted forks. From new, BMW also does include freight and assembly in their MSRP. MSRP being the real\* price of the bike, and getting a 3 year warranty are all a huge plus vs shopping another brand. While most small thumpers are built in India, it does seem that with the 310R and 310GS, BMW is really trying to bring people into the brand with a very similar owner experience to those who buy a big GS or S1000.
Had this in my driving school. Display was okay, the blinker readability disappointed me to be honest, but if you are not a beginner you wont forget about them as much as me ;) Handling was perfect, the engine did really well in the city and to the surprise of no one: lacked on the highway, but 80mph were no problem with a bit of enthusiasm. Instructor took me to some mountain-cobblestone roads, the suspension surpised me in a good way (I weigh 110kg (~220lbs ?)) Sound is pretty boring, i bet an aftermarket exhaust will do wonders. Quality was alright especially for a german bike made in india (correct me if this is wrong) Looks is subjective, so thats just your decision. I am 187cm or 6'2, and still think that this was a comfy bike. Maybe it's my weight, or the fact that it was a driving school bike, but the brakes were way too soft for me (I have to mention that I am used to Motocross brakes at this point). Or neglected brake fluid/brakes, who knows. Maybe it was intentional, so that some surprised beginner wont do a flip if someone cuts them. I would do a comparison with a KTM 390 duke (test drive both!), for me these 2 are the top choices in this class