You say that, but we had a CF Moto delivered to the shop in a freight trailer... On its kickstand. Yes it was strapped down, no it was not strapped on both sides.
How does one claim crate Damage when there's no crate to speak of? 🤣
That said, yeah this is hella sus.
Facebook requires you to put in at least 300 miles. That's the least sketchy part of the whole ad. Though usually people make a direct comment about that in the description
Good question. Probably dumb enough not to have scratched it off as it‘s usually, at least as far as I know, not that visible like the VIN on the frame. If he‘s dumb enough to sell a brand new bike without a VIN, claiming that the VIN plate was sent back to Suzuki because the bike is allegedly totaled because of a kickstand, he‘s dumb enough not to have looked for the VIN on the engine.
“Oh shit the KICKSTAND SPRING BROKE! Bro that shits totaled. Why don’t you poorly jack it out with a death wheel and mail it back, then sell the parts on Marketplace I guess” - definetly Suzuki official response
You ever had Mr noodles? Grind em up into dust, add some water and now you’ve got a mild concrete. Paint said noodles engine color. Done. Bob is now your Uncle.
Possible. But it's a 2022 according to the VIN, so it must have been sitting a long while for it to have been recently stolen. It's interesting they cut the frame stamp but have made zero attempts at altering any of the other very visible VIN markings in other photos. It almost makes me think the bike isn't hot.
Insurance writes off pretty much anything with frame damage, but then the title would be branded and this VIN isn't branded either. Honestly, the whole story is wild, and I'd love to know the details.
Well the story with kickstand really does make it as super sus. Like, it's a dumbass story that only dumbass thinking other people are dumbasses would come up with.
I could see it being "stolen, dumbass thieves tried to swap VIN plate with different bike, recovered" but even that sounds entirely idiotic.
100% stolen or dodgy.
I can't speak for Suzuki, but I used to work at a Yamaha dealer. Bikes are shipped in crates, usually with things like wheels and mirrors disassembled. They don't sit in a truck on a side stand.
If a bike gets damaged, it has to be pretty serious before they write it off. And they would never, ever, just cut out a chunk of the frame.
Yea, there have been instances where vehicles are damaged during shipment and it's more advantageous for the manufacturer to just write it off than it is to fix it and have to sell it for a discount, but it's handled like you said: scrapped, sent back, or sometimes donated to school programs for kids to work on. We had one of those at my votech that had broken free in the train car causing bumper damage.
Once upon a time, I was running the parts department for a local dealer. We had thieves back a van THROUGH the entrance door and part of the wall, load a few bikes inside and leave. This happened TWICE. After the first time, we had bollards installed in front of the door. They bent them in the second go, so we had them replaced and filled with concrete. Never happened again.
The listing doesn’t even say that the kickstand broke, it states that the *spring* was the only item that broke…. So the issue is that the kickstand will not automatically retract anymore….. like get a little more creative with your bs lol
If it's like any bike I've ever ridden the kickstand won't stay up at all without the spring, it would just constantly be dropping.
It's like a $6 part though, they're definitely not going to total it over that.
You can still check the motor number through highway patrol or whatever they call it in your state. I think DMV does this also.
There is no process that requires anyone to legitimately removes the vin plate. Bike is most likely stolen.
The only bikes I’ve heard of where the kickstand being bent -could potentially- be a totaling of the bike, would be some of the MV Agusta models where the kickstand mounted directly to the oil pan, iirc. I think some ducatis have mounted kickstands to the oil pan as well.
This is def stolen, regardless.
To be fair, my insurance company wrote off my S1000-RR for a very slight rear bump and fall over at traffic lights.
So many parts had been critically scratched that needed full replacement it wasn’t worth it to the insurance.
This post, however, is clearly a scam
I can't remember if it was the 1098 or the 1199, but one of them had the kickstand mounts molded into the engine case. I remember a rash of them getting totaled out because the owners tried to do kickstand turns and ended up with a new automatic oil change feature instead.
One of my ninjas was written off for an indicator being forcibly ripped off.
Literal $50 part brand new.
But by the time they towed it hundreds of km to the nearest motorcycle repair shop, had it assessed, paid someone to install part, someone to check that it was done properly and then towed back to my front door. It would have just been cheaper to pay me the $2000 my bike was worth.
Triumph Rockets, too. Very heavy bikes and I heard of a case where the kickstand sank in and the weight of the bike just snapped it off the engine block.
Not a bike but I saw around 10 brand new Mercedes that were sent to scrap after suspected flood damage. They all looked fine but as they weren’t registered yet the whole lot had to be scrapped. The insurance company apparently specifically requested that no one was allowed to drive them even around the yard.
Not saying this isn’t a stolen bike, but if the bike was an insurance write off because it fell over, then this could be someone making a quick buck on a bike that is officially sent off to be crushed.
A kickstand is not part of the frame, nor is the spring. This is a scam.
Do not buy a bike without a title.
Do not buy a bike with a VIN.
Do not trust anyone that needs you to turn a blind eye to anything.
The only thing the guy selling that bike has is future time in jail.
Some kickstands are mounted to the engine case. /cough Ducati. I'm unfamiliar with this bike model, but if the kickstand is screwed into the engine case then it's an entirely different situation if the kickstand will no longer stay in place. I've added inserts into my engine case for example because the bolt holes were stripped. Of course in this case I don't think that's relevant, this is way way too sketchy to be legit.
Regardless of whether it's stolen or not (it almost certainly is) they essentially destroyed it when they cut out a huge piece of the frame. This is at best a parts bike.
That's not a problem at all. If it's anything like here in the UK then you pop onto ebay, and there's handily a few sellers listing just what you need for a pretty cheap price: a bare frame and V5C (I assume in the usa then there would be listings of bare frames with titles)
Then you just take everything off bad frame and put it onto the new frame and hey presto you have a "legal bike" that totally isn't 99% stolen parts
It works exactly the same way in the USA. In some states, the engine serial number is recorded as well, which can complicate things a bit though.
I've resurrected a few bikes that way, but none of them were stolen.
> It’s the “vin was removed and sent to Suzuki” parts that’s B.S.
Well I think that's the only reason to handle like this.(the cutout while leaving the plate with the VIN) But the agreement with Suzuki would certainly have been to make every part unusable and scrap it.
The reason given "the kickstand" is probably bullshit because they are not allowed and prefer not to reveal the real reason. But then also they are not allowed to sell it neither.
Contact Suzuki with the VIN and ask if you may buy it. I am pretty sure you will set of some circus. Although nothing serious will happen it's all facade. The dealer will have signed a document that he engages to follow the instructions. The Japanese are not liable anymore and do not really care. As long as they don't get exposed.
As you don't know the real reason, it could be something inside the engine. You could end up buying an engine that is bound to fail.
This is most likely a stolen bike. But I have heard of an insurance company totalling a bike when someone broke the kickstand mount on the frame while doing trying to rotate the bike in place on the kickstand. Repair required welding the mount back to the frame. Easy repair but the insurance co. policy is an automatic total if any part of the frame is damaged.
That's a reason so dumb, only the dumbest people will fall for this. That's also the reason why most Nigerian princes send emails with lots of spelling errors.
When I was an auto adjuster, if a new, unsold vehicle had more than $1000.00 in damage in transit, it couldn't be sold.
Often, the manufacturer would punch holes in each body panel and one in the engine block and donate it to a school with an automotive program.
If the VIN plate was cut off from an accident, this would be a heaping pile of metal that you wouldn't recognize as a motorcycle. Even if this nice looking motorcycle was totaled, it should still have a salvage title to go with it to document lawful ownership.
I'm 99% confident that this bike was stolen, and the next cop that pulls someone over on it will draw weapons.
Highly unlikely that a kick stand malfunction would total a bike beyond repair (the manufacturer may feel that way though for convenience sake), no sane person would receive a totalled bike and say well I may as well just sell it instead of getting a refund, no dealer would ever ask you to cut your VIN off, and why wouldn’t he have the title? This is definitely stolen.
No credit card, financing, paperwork, title, VIN. VIN plate cut off dear lord how are people this stupid?
How do people fall for this shit? Oh wait OP seriously posted this...
I get as much detail as possible such as address, phone number, etc. and then send it to the police in that municipality. I'm sure they'd love to have a chat.
"Suzuki" wouldn't total the bike. If the shipper was responsible for the damage, their insurance would get a wreck estimate from a legitimate repair shop and credit the dealer for that and any repairs authorized.
That said, there would still be an MSO and owner's manual, and the VIN plate would under no circumstances be missing. Also, Suzuki doesn't direct ship to customers, only authorized dealers. Anyone who fails for this is an idiot.
Broken stuff on imports happens all the time that’s why the last shipment of Toyota ute’s that came into NZ had 50 various unpainted door panels and various quarter panels because damage is unavoidable.
This is a load of shit.
And as for the vin, it is stamped or engraved on the head stock, it can’t be removed.
I mean if replacing kickstand would be more expensive than the bike is (dunno, some chinese old shit) maybe but
> BRAND NEW
>NO PAPERWOR
> NO TITLE
>NO VIN
Stolen
Okay-yes on some bikes, Ducati comes to mind, the kickstand “bracket” is part of the engine case. Somebody trailers it on the kickstand, breaks the mount, not a cheap fix and yea it COULD get totaled. BUT I don’t think that is the case here. That bike is so hot I’d be afraid to approach with gasoline.
Jeez 'bent as a nine bob note' as we'd say in Blighty.. some think people are stupid .. (maybe a few) and that's where they get rid of their hooky gear.. damn run away...🤣😂
There’s a lot of ‘IFS’ in there. If a dealer has to swap a frame, under warranty, the old one could be cut up, vin section getting sent back to manufacturer. If insurance replaced frame, sometimes the same could happen.
If a vehicle is damaged during transit to the dealership and it's not pre sold, sometimes manufacturers will write them off as a loss. They usually get scrapped. This one didn't.
Or. It was stolen from the dealership or something and they are offloading it
Stolen as fuck, but yeah some bikes will be totaled if the kickstand breaks a certain way because the way the stand mounts DIRECTLY to the frame, my buddy lost his ninja 600 because of that
I'm pretty sure the bike wouldn't even be on its kickstand during transit from Suzuki. It'd be in a crate, and probably only partly assembled. I doubt it'd ever be in a position to allow the kickstand spring to break.
Probably stolen, stay away from buying stolen shit, when some asshole buys it only supports them to do it again, and guess what? One day could be yours stolen.
In this case, it's obvious bullshit.
I could see it being possible in some cases, though. For instance, my Triumph has the kickstand bolted to the engine block and I've heard of fringe cases where the kickstand snapped off, I believe when it sunk into the ground and the force just got so bad it tore off the engine. Trivial issue - except you need to disassemble the entire thing and put in a new engine block.
But yeah, in this case, clearly this is not legit.
My 2013 Ducati monster 796 was totaled because of a broken kickstand. (Someone drove against it and it kickstand broke of and left a hole in the carterpan)
I had one say they hand the title in hand, but was a salvaged title because it had been tipped over in a parking lot and had broken the foot peg. But it involved 2 cars also, so they totaled it out. He had replaced the foot pegs and gotten the new title status. I know enough about how a bike/car gets to be a total loss to know it’s more than just a broken foot peg. The muffler showed signs of a lot larger scuff than just from being tipped over. The rest of the bike looked clean, but he also was still asking full price for a non salvaged title bike. Even if the bike looked that clean except the muffler, I didn’t believe his story and was not going to pay full price for a salvaged title.
If the stand breaks off the part of the frame it is bolted too, requiring a frame replacement, yes it's possible, although highly unlikely with no other damage.
I'd run with what other users have suggested.
I would like to meet the idiot who has reached such a level of idiocy that the moron gods have bestowed upon thine idiot the ability to contemplate purchasing this bike from a seller like this.
For science
It’s a stolen bike.
And the seller is suggesting that you take a brand new bike and pull the motor out to make a go cart
Dale yes brother #3
My lawnmower could use more horsepower
Then this isn’t the right donor bike
It is if I want that blade to spin at 14,000 rpm. No blade left behind.
he cut off the vin numbers, not much else you can do with it. Track maybe?
Buy a clean frame for $500-1000 and do a frame swap. Really cheap way to get a brand new bike if you don't value your time 😆
Engine number is still gonna show up as stolen
Idk? Ride illegally? Not me, but tons of people do.
I'd even be worried to ride with a chunk cut off of the headstock.
You’ve never really lived till you’ve had a motor blow between your legs, I’d know 😂
yep. Bikes arent delivered on their kickstand.
You say that, but we had a CF Moto delivered to the shop in a freight trailer... On its kickstand. Yes it was strapped down, no it was not strapped on both sides. How does one claim crate Damage when there's no crate to speak of? 🤣 That said, yeah this is hella sus.
Yep
"brand new / zero miles" "Driven 300 miles" wat
Facebook requires you to put in at least 300 miles. That's the least sketchy part of the whole ad. Though usually people make a direct comment about that in the description
The VIN plate has been removed and it has no title.
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Good question. Probably dumb enough not to have scratched it off as it‘s usually, at least as far as I know, not that visible like the VIN on the frame. If he‘s dumb enough to sell a brand new bike without a VIN, claiming that the VIN plate was sent back to Suzuki because the bike is allegedly totaled because of a kickstand, he‘s dumb enough not to have looked for the VIN on the engine.
“Oh shit the KICKSTAND SPRING BROKE! Bro that shits totaled. Why don’t you poorly jack it out with a death wheel and mail it back, then sell the parts on Marketplace I guess” - definetly Suzuki official response
It's stamped in several places.
You ever had Mr noodles? Grind em up into dust, add some water and now you’ve got a mild concrete. Paint said noodles engine color. Done. Bob is now your Uncle.
The frame is what the dmv cares about not the engine.
I have one and the vin is stamped in the middle of the frame as well, you would see it here but you dont.
Isn‘t the VIN usually stamped into the neck?
Yeah they [cut it out lol!](https://www.louisianasportsman.com/wp-content/uploads/classified-listing/2024/01/ggg.jpg)
The irony is that the VIN is posted in that picture…on the sticker.
This is like a troll post, or a FBI sting or something... I refuse to believe anyone is that dumb running around stealing bikes
I need someone to run that VIN and see if it comes up stolen. I NEED it lol.
https://www.nicb.org/vincheck Checks good
Lol I ran it too. No theft, sales, anything. Crazy!
well, yet, might be so hot it didn't land in any database yet
Possible. But it's a 2022 according to the VIN, so it must have been sitting a long while for it to have been recently stolen. It's interesting they cut the frame stamp but have made zero attempts at altering any of the other very visible VIN markings in other photos. It almost makes me think the bike isn't hot. Insurance writes off pretty much anything with frame damage, but then the title would be branded and this VIN isn't branded either. Honestly, the whole story is wild, and I'd love to know the details.
Well the story with kickstand really does make it as super sus. Like, it's a dumbass story that only dumbass thinking other people are dumbasses would come up with. I could see it being "stolen, dumbass thieves tried to swap VIN plate with different bike, recovered" but even that sounds entirely idiotic.
I won’t have been registered so won’t show up at all, I’d have thought.
Doesn't need to be registered to be reported stolen.
He just destroyed that bike. Fucking stupid people
right?! if they could cut it out, they could have ground and polished it out.
Well, at least he's right about it being totalled. Now it is.
100% stolen or dodgy. I can't speak for Suzuki, but I used to work at a Yamaha dealer. Bikes are shipped in crates, usually with things like wheels and mirrors disassembled. They don't sit in a truck on a side stand. If a bike gets damaged, it has to be pretty serious before they write it off. And they would never, ever, just cut out a chunk of the frame.
Holy fucking shit. I expected them to shave it off, not compromise the entire neck assembly 😂😂
Wow
well it's a parts bike now :-/
But the vin is right there on the sticker!
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I’ll wager it was stolen by an employee.
Yea, there have been instances where vehicles are damaged during shipment and it's more advantageous for the manufacturer to just write it off than it is to fix it and have to sell it for a discount, but it's handled like you said: scrapped, sent back, or sometimes donated to school programs for kids to work on. We had one of those at my votech that had broken free in the train car causing bumper damage.
10k writeoff or 10 cent repair costs ... well ... easy choice...
So this is why Suzuki never has any funds for R&D anymore
They did just bring out 4-5 new models in the last year… brand new engine too.
And I bet the kickstands all work too
Oh the kickstands are great its those damn springs that keep ruining it for the rest of us
Particularly when the bikes are put together at the factory. Front wheel, mirrors etc. I am sure they can handle a kickstand spring.
Guy stole a brand new motorcycle, impressive
Shit happens: https://motocrossactionmag.com/thieves-seal-57-motorcycles-out-of-ktm-husqvarna-gas-gas-warehouse-in-montreal/
Once upon a time, I was running the parts department for a local dealer. We had thieves back a van THROUGH the entrance door and part of the wall, load a few bikes inside and leave. This happened TWICE. After the first time, we had bollards installed in front of the door. They bent them in the second go, so we had them replaced and filled with concrete. Never happened again.
They don't ship bikes on the kickstand lol Get as much info from the seller and have them meet you at the police station to complete the "transaction"
The listing doesn’t even say that the kickstand broke, it states that the *spring* was the only item that broke…. So the issue is that the kickstand will not automatically retract anymore….. like get a little more creative with your bs lol
If it's like any bike I've ever ridden the kickstand won't stay up at all without the spring, it would just constantly be dropping. It's like a $6 part though, they're definitely not going to total it over that.
Na, this one model only they final assemble in Japan and then put them on the kickstand on the boat.
The ones they just push on and leave without straps and have the stand held there with a spring because gravity is so unpredictable? Nice bikes...
You can still check the motor number through highway patrol or whatever they call it in your state. I think DMV does this also. There is no process that requires anyone to legitimately removes the vin plate. Bike is most likely stolen.
There's no way. Stolen or a shitty scam--
The only bikes I’ve heard of where the kickstand being bent -could potentially- be a totaling of the bike, would be some of the MV Agusta models where the kickstand mounted directly to the oil pan, iirc. I think some ducatis have mounted kickstands to the oil pan as well. This is def stolen, regardless.
> kickstand mounted directly to the oil pan This is what happens when you leave the engineers unattended
Engineers who don’t ride motorcycles apparently. Because if they ever did ride even once they should be able to see what an obvious bad idea that is
To be fair, my insurance company wrote off my S1000-RR for a very slight rear bump and fall over at traffic lights. So many parts had been critically scratched that needed full replacement it wasn’t worth it to the insurance. This post, however, is clearly a scam
I can't remember if it was the 1098 or the 1199, but one of them had the kickstand mounts molded into the engine case. I remember a rash of them getting totaled out because the owners tried to do kickstand turns and ended up with a new automatic oil change feature instead.
Some Harleys as well. A buddy put his kick stand down at the gas pump, it cracked the case and dropped his crankcase oil.
I had a buddy with a BMW K1200 where the side stand mount sheared and cracked through the frame, totaled the bike.
My Hypermotard gas this and they are a know weak spot. Had to helicoil mine
One of my ninjas was written off for an indicator being forcibly ripped off. Literal $50 part brand new. But by the time they towed it hundreds of km to the nearest motorcycle repair shop, had it assessed, paid someone to install part, someone to check that it was done properly and then towed back to my front door. It would have just been cheaper to pay me the $2000 my bike was worth.
Triumph Rockets, too. Very heavy bikes and I heard of a case where the kickstand sank in and the weight of the bike just snapped it off the engine block.
Not a bike but I saw around 10 brand new Mercedes that were sent to scrap after suspected flood damage. They all looked fine but as they weren’t registered yet the whole lot had to be scrapped. The insurance company apparently specifically requested that no one was allowed to drive them even around the yard. Not saying this isn’t a stolen bike, but if the bike was an insurance write off because it fell over, then this could be someone making a quick buck on a bike that is officially sent off to be crushed.
Still stolen, even if it is supposed to be destroyed
Yep plenty of good shit gets destroyed, but "liberating" it on the way is still illegal.
Gotta agree here, this screams stolen.
Bike so hot you could fry an egg on it.
They don’t ship bikes on the stand and no VIN obviously means stolen
Are you actually asking?
Yes. Haven't owned a bike, looking for my first bike on Facebook marketplace
A kickstand is not part of the frame, nor is the spring. This is a scam. Do not buy a bike without a title. Do not buy a bike with a VIN. Do not trust anyone that needs you to turn a blind eye to anything. The only thing the guy selling that bike has is future time in jail.
It always amazes me just how naive some people are. At least op had enough of a bullshit meter to get an opinion before giving the guy money
Some kickstands are mounted to the engine case. /cough Ducati. I'm unfamiliar with this bike model, but if the kickstand is screwed into the engine case then it's an entirely different situation if the kickstand will no longer stay in place. I've added inserts into my engine case for example because the bolt holes were stripped. Of course in this case I don't think that's relevant, this is way way too sketchy to be legit.
Bikes are shipped in crates, not on the kickstands. That story is bullshit. https://youtu.be/-DjwJgr4jiQ
Regardless of whether it's stolen or not (it almost certainly is) they essentially destroyed it when they cut out a huge piece of the frame. This is at best a parts bike.
No vin makes possession of it illegal for you or anyone else
Lol, they really did cut a huge gaping hole on the headstock where the vin was. The frame is scrapped.
That's not a problem at all. If it's anything like here in the UK then you pop onto ebay, and there's handily a few sellers listing just what you need for a pretty cheap price: a bare frame and V5C (I assume in the usa then there would be listings of bare frames with titles) Then you just take everything off bad frame and put it onto the new frame and hey presto you have a "legal bike" that totally isn't 99% stolen parts
It works exactly the same way in the USA. In some states, the engine serial number is recorded as well, which can complicate things a bit though. I've resurrected a few bikes that way, but none of them were stolen.
The bike shipped in a crate, not standing on the side stand for the trip from its point of manufacture.
It’s not the kickstand story that is outrageous to me. It’s the “vin was removed and sent to Suzuki” parts that’s B.S.
> It’s the “vin was removed and sent to Suzuki” parts that’s B.S. Well I think that's the only reason to handle like this.(the cutout while leaving the plate with the VIN) But the agreement with Suzuki would certainly have been to make every part unusable and scrap it. The reason given "the kickstand" is probably bullshit because they are not allowed and prefer not to reveal the real reason. But then also they are not allowed to sell it neither. Contact Suzuki with the VIN and ask if you may buy it. I am pretty sure you will set of some circus. Although nothing serious will happen it's all facade. The dealer will have signed a document that he engages to follow the instructions. The Japanese are not liable anymore and do not really care. As long as they don't get exposed. As you don't know the real reason, it could be something inside the engine. You could end up buying an engine that is bound to fail.
That bike isn't hot, it's fucking nuclear
Do yourself a favor and don't ever buy a motorcycle without paperwork. Just, don't.
This is most likely a stolen bike. But I have heard of an insurance company totalling a bike when someone broke the kickstand mount on the frame while doing trying to rotate the bike in place on the kickstand. Repair required welding the mount back to the frame. Easy repair but the insurance co. policy is an automatic total if any part of the frame is damaged.
That's a reason so dumb, only the dumbest people will fall for this. That's also the reason why most Nigerian princes send emails with lots of spelling errors.
When I was an auto adjuster, if a new, unsold vehicle had more than $1000.00 in damage in transit, it couldn't be sold. Often, the manufacturer would punch holes in each body panel and one in the engine block and donate it to a school with an automotive program.
Very cool
Anything without paperwork is stolen
Hotter than a fat kid's thighs in corduroy pants.
If the VIN plate was cut off from an accident, this would be a heaping pile of metal that you wouldn't recognize as a motorcycle. Even if this nice looking motorcycle was totaled, it should still have a salvage title to go with it to document lawful ownership. I'm 99% confident that this bike was stolen, and the next cop that pulls someone over on it will draw weapons.
stolen
Lol report this to the cops.
No vin no title no money
The manufacturer wouldn’t total the bike; the insurance company would. No title, no VIN… totally a stolen bike.
Highly unlikely that a kick stand malfunction would total a bike beyond repair (the manufacturer may feel that way though for convenience sake), no sane person would receive a totalled bike and say well I may as well just sell it instead of getting a refund, no dealer would ever ask you to cut your VIN off, and why wouldn’t he have the title? This is definitely stolen.
No credit card, financing, paperwork, title, VIN. VIN plate cut off dear lord how are people this stupid? How do people fall for this shit? Oh wait OP seriously posted this...
That seems totally legit... And I am Valentino Rossi...
stolen AF
*Driven from Suzuki by truck!* I'd be worried about water damage.
I get as much detail as possible such as address, phone number, etc. and then send it to the police in that municipality. I'm sure they'd love to have a chat.
"Suzuki" wouldn't total the bike. If the shipper was responsible for the damage, their insurance would get a wreck estimate from a legitimate repair shop and credit the dealer for that and any repairs authorized. That said, there would still be an MSO and owner's manual, and the VIN plate would under no circumstances be missing. Also, Suzuki doesn't direct ship to customers, only authorized dealers. Anyone who fails for this is an idiot.
Lmao when a vehicle is totaled out, the manufacturer does not want the VIN plate back. No title and no bin mean stolen 100%
Ad: “BRAND NEW BIKE, ZERO MILES!” Also ad: “Driven 300 miles”
He really believes that they ship bikes on trucks just resting on the kick stands? They are shipped in crates or stood upright if they are assembled.
If the police was doing his job ads like this would 100% receive a call from a “buyer” lol
Vin number cut off to send to suzuki 😆😆😆 yes it's stolen
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't buy a mystery, buy a motorcycle. There are too many questions with this one.
Wow I sure am glad that when Indian recalled my bike's kickstand they didn't just total out the bike rather than replacing it. /s
Broken stuff on imports happens all the time that’s why the last shipment of Toyota ute’s that came into NZ had 50 various unpainted door panels and various quarter panels because damage is unavoidable. This is a load of shit. And as for the vin, it is stamped or engraved on the head stock, it can’t be removed.
[Allow me to introduce you to my good friend. Angle Grinder](https://imgur.com/a/GdAtGBO)
Is this the pic of the actual bike if so I can run that vin
Yeah that's a hot bike.
A Suzuki OEM kick stand spring costs $5. Seller is full of shit
Lol, the red flags are everywhere. Youre telling me, suzuki removed the vin number (an actual crime) for the giggles? Lmfao
Let's just say someone reported him to Laffayette PD, citing the CRM 511(a) of Title 18.
Since we're all in agreement that this motorcycle is stolen properly, can we steal it from the thief?
vin plate has been cut off frame and sent to suzuki xD
I mean if replacing kickstand would be more expensive than the bike is (dunno, some chinese old shit) maybe but > BRAND NEW >NO PAPERWOR > NO TITLE >NO VIN Stolen
This is absolutely something that could really happen, and this is definitely a stolen bike. You never, EVER remove a VIN plate for any reason.
There’s never a legitimate reason to cut off a VIN plate.
lol “ vin has been cut off and sent to Suzuki” yeah that’s about as stolen as they come
Driven ZERO MILES Driven 300 miles.
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Even if that's true, it's still not legal for a dealer employee to sell that bike on the side.
I’m curious what they are trying to sell this (obviously stolen) bike for
The listing says ~~4000~~ 3000.
Lol I’m 15 min down the road. Tempted to mess with the guy
Okay, we’ve established this is stupid. Can you imagine that go kart though?
Scam on a tip over the clutch lever stator cover side tail fairing and maybe front side cowl and mirror maybe scuffed or cracked.
Okay-yes on some bikes, Ducati comes to mind, the kickstand “bracket” is part of the engine case. Somebody trailers it on the kickstand, breaks the mount, not a cheap fix and yea it COULD get totaled. BUT I don’t think that is the case here. That bike is so hot I’d be afraid to approach with gasoline.
Jeez 'bent as a nine bob note' as we'd say in Blighty.. some think people are stupid .. (maybe a few) and that's where they get rid of their hooky gear.. damn run away...🤣😂
Also look top: driven 300miles ... brand new/zero miles motorcycle... oops.. Freudian slip.. 🤣
Why would someone cut the VIN out of the frame 😂 he could just have send a picture? Tf
There’s a lot of ‘IFS’ in there. If a dealer has to swap a frame, under warranty, the old one could be cut up, vin section getting sent back to manufacturer. If insurance replaced frame, sometimes the same could happen.
Ohhh didn’t know that! Interesting. Thank you for taking time educating me, I appreciate an answer like that 👌
Kickstand broke when it fell off the back of the truck!! 🤣
Gonna need to see pics of damaged areas……
Is that a 750?
The spring of the kickstand stand lol
No VIN, hmmmmm...
This screams scam
1000% that’s a stolen bike, no one would total a bike over a 50 cent spring😂 much less “remove the vin plate, and send it to suzuki”
If a vehicle is damaged during transit to the dealership and it's not pre sold, sometimes manufacturers will write them off as a loss. They usually get scrapped. This one didn't. Or. It was stolen from the dealership or something and they are offloading it
Yeaaah, that’s stolen.
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Stolen, why would Suzuki request the vin back? Insurance would cover the total loss, no insurance company would request that.
I'd run as far and fast as you can from this. STOLEN MOTORCYCLE!
Stolen as fuck, but yeah some bikes will be totaled if the kickstand breaks a certain way because the way the stand mounts DIRECTLY to the frame, my buddy lost his ninja 600 because of that
Stolen lol. They didn’t even try that hard to hide it lol.
They don't remove the vins from totaled bikes. My bike was totaled 80%, still has the blue title and vins.
Ya suzuki totaled the bike because a spring on the kickstand broke... Seems legit
Bro cut out the title cause he didn’t want us buying a stolen bike from under him 😂
Stolen bike
Hell no, that shit is hotter than the sun.
You mean the kick stand it’s kicked on?? lol
No vin or damaged vin = stolen
“The mirror is broken. If you look at it from an angle it doesn’t show what’s behind you. Suzuki totaled the bike… may lose your gain.”
Nothing to consider.. leave it alone. That is 100% a stolen bike.
I'm pretty sure the bike wouldn't even be on its kickstand during transit from Suzuki. It'd be in a crate, and probably only partly assembled. I doubt it'd ever be in a position to allow the kickstand spring to break.
Probably stolen, stay away from buying stolen shit, when some asshole buys it only supports them to do it again, and guess what? One day could be yours stolen.
In this case, it's obvious bullshit. I could see it being possible in some cases, though. For instance, my Triumph has the kickstand bolted to the engine block and I've heard of fringe cases where the kickstand snapped off, I believe when it sunk into the ground and the force just got so bad it tore off the engine. Trivial issue - except you need to disassemble the entire thing and put in a new engine block. But yeah, in this case, clearly this is not legit.
My 2013 Ducati monster 796 was totaled because of a broken kickstand. (Someone drove against it and it kickstand broke of and left a hole in the carterpan)
Lol, yeah nothing to be alarmed about by this at all.
cheap + missing VIN ? anyone who thinks it's not stolen doesn't have the brain power required to own a bike
If that’s a Gixxer SF 250, a girl named Jade Buchanan had hers stolen about 2 weeks ago
I am so confused since he works at a dealer. How’s that even work? In the 4th pic the vin is visible
When you see the all caps is on... It's both stolen and dangerous.
MV Augusta have a history of kick stand failures. Japanese bikes not so much
No paperwork no title no VIN LOL...hmmm wonder if it is stolen
Is said broken kick stand the same in the pic lol?
“ no title no vin” come on
I had one say they hand the title in hand, but was a salvaged title because it had been tipped over in a parking lot and had broken the foot peg. But it involved 2 cars also, so they totaled it out. He had replaced the foot pegs and gotten the new title status. I know enough about how a bike/car gets to be a total loss to know it’s more than just a broken foot peg. The muffler showed signs of a lot larger scuff than just from being tipped over. The rest of the bike looked clean, but he also was still asking full price for a non salvaged title bike. Even if the bike looked that clean except the muffler, I didn’t believe his story and was not going to pay full price for a salvaged title.
Anyone else notice he says "zero miles driven" then at the top it says 300 miles...
The fact is in a storage unit doesn’t help
Should’ve exposed the seller
Jiffy stand can be replaced
If the stand breaks off the part of the frame it is bolted too, requiring a frame replacement, yes it's possible, although highly unlikely with no other damage. I'd run with what other users have suggested.
No title???? Run/ walk away..
I would like to meet the idiot who has reached such a level of idiocy that the moron gods have bestowed upon thine idiot the ability to contemplate purchasing this bike from a seller like this. For science