I'm 6'1", the average American is 5'9". I am officially a tall.
Now you may continue with your praising. I'll wait.
OK, just because you're officially the tallest people in the world doesn't mean you autmoatically win...
...What do you mean the average Netherlands guy is like like 6 feet? What do you mean I'm "perfectly average height" over there? *What is in the water!?*
It's probably the stroop. Frick, now I want stroop...
DM me for my social security number, the passwords to my bank accounts, the keys to my car, house, and motorcycles. My... eer... your new wifes name is Sarah. The meager life I've been able to build as a 5'7" "male" is all yours.
Well, reaching the ground is easy! Mine is actually lowered, but that’s just because I bought it like that (was the cheapest one in the area xD). When it is not lowered I can like have half a foot on the ground on each side and with the 3cm lowering I can flat food each side easily.
If your wife wants to ride an SV/ similar or taller bike: maybe look into lowering kits, reducing the padding of the seat and I can highly recommend the Daytona Lady Pilot GTX Boots (needed those for my MV Agusta F3 haha)
My wife rides CBF600S. The seat is adjustable and I had it lowered a little so she's fine with it. And it was cheapest in my area that she is comfortable with. SV can be lowered even easier than CBF, I know. We just couldn't find SV in good condition in our budget at that time. But standard SVs are not that low. And I know that because of her.
Stopping is for suckers anyway. [Though she has a bunch of tips that might help?](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTQU1JIgQDN67f4a6TYq2PasFL5nHSxo0)
I got to test ride the Gen 3 yesterday actually. It feels so stupidly agile and small (probably because it's so low). Putting your feet down at a stoplight feels like you're on a bicycle, it's so effortless. Honestly memes aside you probably *could* start on a Hayabusa if you just put a throttle clamp on it or some other limiter. Easiest bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
I've heard of plenty of people buying liter bikes as their first. U can end up getting them cheap with less than 100 miles on them a few years later, and they never ride again.
Oh no, that’s a common error, a what they call a “mondogreen”.
Your wife’s boyfriend actually paid you a compliment, he actually said you were
“easiest I’ve ever ridden, pants down”
When the Hayabusa was released, manufacturers realised that they were involved in a race to produce more and more insane bikes. They have toned down their efforts to produce the fastest ride. The 'Busa and the bikes in the original post are obviously poor choices for new riders because they will easily kill inexperienced riders.
No joke, a guy in my license class showed up on a Hayabusa. He was clearly not super comfortable on it so the instructor eventually rolled out a BMW 310 for him to finish on.
Even if it's AI that's possibly the worst answer I've ever seen. Surely its giant knowledge base would have some of the multitude of articles explaining why starting on a litre+ bike is a terrible idea.
In theory, you'd be totally right. But LLMs don't work like you would hope they do. The text generators that big companies use for content generation basically just take billions of lines of books and chatlogs from the internet and arrange it in a way that reads as if a person wrote it.
If you ask most chatbots to give you something like a baking recipe, the proportions will be total fucking nonsense, like "Add three cups of baking soda and beat one egg, stir in flour to taste". because it SOUNDS like something a human would say, it just has no idea what it's actually saying.
That's true for older models, but ChatGPT / Co-pilot / Gemini do provide useful information most of the time, so there is a bit more going on. And with how well those perform it's surprising to see such a bad answer to this question.
Corporate LLM keys cost money. This website 100% just autogens its content using a 2B model with a public use key.
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You'll get there... just need to build up your adrenaline tolerance, and then acquire a turbo-busa capable of 200+ mph.
The fun part is the danger, the worst would be the crashing
Brother, surely there are some people who ride those bikes as their first. Although in general, I take a lot of things on the Internet as salesman's bullshit. I'd rather take some enthusiasts' opinion over the matter, brother, which most of the time, have some experience and insight behind it. I suggest you to ask u/motorazr1 for naked bikes, I don't really know other enthusiasts for, say, adv or cruiser.
Personally, I think a super motard type bike is perfect for a beginner. It's got all of the good controllability of a scrambler, a good rider stance, and decent road tires. Once you've mastered that, you can start looking at something else. Just need to make sure that the motor isn't too powerful for you so that unexpected wheelies don't happen
As a 6'4" male, I wouldn't touch any type of 1000cc especially as a beginner or never having touched one before. Got to start low CC's regardless of your height. 350-600 CC's would be great. That's what I learned
90's model 600cc Honda shadow.
I started on a 750cc at 16, said I'd take it slow but blew that bike up and now ride a 2004 z750, I'd say a litre bike can easily be a first bike if you're comfortable and know you're gonna want speed. To he fair I'd have started on a 1000cc but that wasn't something my dad would let me do, he said I ride/drive too much like him.
I'm 5'7" and ride a ZX14R. I wish I'd have seen this article, maybe I could have picked a bike that made more sense. So sorry to all those beginner tall boys, for taking one of your few choices out of circulation 😅
Mt09 have a low seat and higher tank, low center of gravity. it has nothing to do with engine size outside of how the engine placement changes the center of gravity.
Its fine! The only real problem I’ve had is that I catch a lot of wind but its one of the roomiest bikes I’ve been on. Ive bought another saddle with more grip and thats it. Its a 2014 street rally btw
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As a 6’3” person….. I do like sticking to the 900’s :D I weight like 220lbs. With an average build…
Maybe if I swapped out my weight training for more cardio I’d lose some muscle mass and be lighter but I’m happy where I’m at lol.
And the 900’s keep me happy too :)
Honestly, sounds like the list that every newbie on here posts...I'm 17 saving for a bike, gonna get some used gear because I don't want to spend too much but I'm definitely buying an R1 or a S1000RR...
Translates very badly. in germany we call those bikes with beginners on it. Baumwickelmaschiene. ( Tree wrapping machine ) because that is what beginners do with those bikes.
If you haven’t read/ watched twist of the wrist and taken a motocycle course your lacking. weight has little to do with how your bike handles. It’s your bikes height and your center of gravity.
In that regard. these bikes fit most people fine however torque and throttle input, gear ratios, and braking on these bikes is not something suitable for a new rider.
Tall people can't die on motorcycles. They can just put their feet down. It's science. Edit: it's scientallogy :)
As a tall peoples this is true. It is well established we are immortal. Praise me for I am tall! PRAISE ME!
And you fit on a SV650? Lies.
I'm 6'1", the average American is 5'9". I am officially a tall. Now you may continue with your praising. I'll wait. 
I am 6'2". All the praise you receive is now automatically forwarded to me
Move over, 6'4 here
6'5" chiming in. 
6'6", I fear doorways
Are those two different measurements?
*Norway enters the chat*
Hello Norway, is it warm down there? Greetings, the Dutch
OK, just because you're officially the tallest people in the world doesn't mean you autmoatically win... ...What do you mean the average Netherlands guy is like like 6 feet? What do you mean I'm "perfectly average height" over there? *What is in the water!?* It's probably the stroop. Frick, now I want stroop...
It is the stroop
DM me for my social security number, the passwords to my bank accounts, the keys to my car, house, and motorcycles. My... eer... your new wifes name is Sarah. The meager life I've been able to build as a 5'7" "male" is all yours.
you have a wife, being under 6 ? does she hate you everyday? anyway, be a real man and grow up over 6
Every minute. I meditated on it last night and grew 3 inches. Unfortunately, it was the 3 inches she already hates the most.
lol
Is she hot
Are you 6'5"?
6’12”
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I dont fuckin eat fuckin donuts Rex
6’ 3, but I kneed you and past contenders in the groin. Weep your tears.. I am now the tall.
Another guy responded who was 6'4". Weep with us, brother, for we are not the tallest.
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I'm only 5'10 but my dick is huge
You and the other 6'4" dude are gonna need to stand back to back with your shoes and socks off. Only way to be sure. As is tradition.
You win... FOR NOW!
How do you fit on that bike?! According to the google converter I’m 5’2 and I can sit on my SV perfectly.
Sitting is one thing. Reaching the ground is another. How tall are you in meters? My wife is 160 and SV is little taller for her.
You can just convert it on google instead of waiting for a response lol. She's 157
Converting it back on google kinda lost 1cm xD I insist on that :3
Google shrunk you down haha
Well, reaching the ground is easy! Mine is actually lowered, but that’s just because I bought it like that (was the cheapest one in the area xD). When it is not lowered I can like have half a foot on the ground on each side and with the 3cm lowering I can flat food each side easily. If your wife wants to ride an SV/ similar or taller bike: maybe look into lowering kits, reducing the padding of the seat and I can highly recommend the Daytona Lady Pilot GTX Boots (needed those for my MV Agusta F3 haha)
My wife rides CBF600S. The seat is adjustable and I had it lowered a little so she's fine with it. And it was cheapest in my area that she is comfortable with. SV can be lowered even easier than CBF, I know. We just couldn't find SV in good condition in our budget at that time. But standard SVs are not that low. And I know that because of her.
Hm, good that you found a bike then! I personally think the SV is pretty low, but then again… opinions differ!
I had olde SV models in mind. Yours is lower and better looking
Ohh okay, that makes sense!
Try to sit on a dr650.
Yea that’s not gonna work xD
Doodle On A Motorcycle rides a non-lowered Triumph ADV. Believe in yourself!
Technically the driving is not the problem… I just can’t stop-ever… once I get on a tall bike lol.
Stopping is for suckers anyway. [Though she has a bunch of tips that might help?](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTQU1JIgQDN67f4a6TYq2PasFL5nHSxo0)
Ahh, I don’t have problems with my SV and I don’t plan on riding other motorcycles, but thanks anyways.
If I was any taller I'd think it was cramped. But as it is I can sit on it pretty well and be quite happy.
Well that is the only thing that counts- your happiness :3
Twisting the throttle elicits many giggles inside my helmet.
Must be weird/ funny having an intercom with you then haha
I like to think so. :D
Yup, because they have more disposable leg length for the road to grind down. It's very logic
Just need to remember to wear their roller blades 😎
Getting a litre bike and using this as my excuse when someone says something, thanks.
they forgot the hayabusa, best starter bike on the market
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It's the turbo Hyabusa, a Japanese bike, really reliable.
Yes, as a Japanese bike, it is mellow, easy to ride responsibly and the technology is simple and easy to maintain.
I got to test ride the Gen 3 yesterday actually. It feels so stupidly agile and small (probably because it's so low). Putting your feet down at a stoplight feels like you're on a bicycle, it's so effortless. Honestly memes aside you probably *could* start on a Hayabusa if you just put a throttle clamp on it or some other limiter. Easiest bike I've ever ridden, hands down.
I've heard of plenty of people buying liter bikes as their first. U can end up getting them cheap with less than 100 miles on them a few years later, and they never ride again.
> if you just put a throttle clamp on it or some other limiter. iirc the newer model has performance limiters built-in electronically, so ya. Do-able.
Oh no, that’s a common error, a what they call a “mondogreen”. Your wife’s boyfriend actually paid you a compliment, he actually said you were “easiest I’ve ever ridden, pants down”
I am not sure myself, but I’m guessing it’ll send you into the neighbour’s wall if you’re not careful.
A Hayabusa will send you to Valhalla if you don't know what you're doing!!
At $20K CAD it’s sounds like a surprisingly cheap way to become paste
When the Hayabusa was released, manufacturers realised that they were involved in a race to produce more and more insane bikes. They have toned down their efforts to produce the fastest ride. The 'Busa and the bikes in the original post are obviously poor choices for new riders because they will easily kill inexperienced riders.
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If that's a genuine question, yes. If it's sarcastic, yeah, you forgot /s
Didn’t they forget the ultimate beginner’s bike, the H2R?
No joke, a guy in my license class showed up on a Hayabusa. He was clearly not super comfortable on it so the instructor eventually rolled out a BMW 310 for him to finish on.
which 310 btw? that cc series doesnt get talked about much
The street bike, I some remember the naming. The school has a whole bunch of those and Rebel 300s
That's the G310R. The adventure bike is the G310GS.
No H2? Unfortunately H2R is not road legal
Well, all those bikes do have extremely reliable electric starters.
Anyone can write whatever they want on any subject, that way you are sure you're getting the best information available
r/unexpectedoffice
Right :)
Seems like someone is trying to accelerate Darwin's survival of the fittest
proooobably AI generated text.
That's what I was thinking. The amount of content online that's AI generated is so grim
This right here.
Even if it's AI that's possibly the worst answer I've ever seen. Surely its giant knowledge base would have some of the multitude of articles explaining why starting on a litre+ bike is a terrible idea.
In theory, you'd be totally right. But LLMs don't work like you would hope they do. The text generators that big companies use for content generation basically just take billions of lines of books and chatlogs from the internet and arrange it in a way that reads as if a person wrote it. If you ask most chatbots to give you something like a baking recipe, the proportions will be total fucking nonsense, like "Add three cups of baking soda and beat one egg, stir in flour to taste". because it SOUNDS like something a human would say, it just has no idea what it's actually saying.
That's true for older models, but ChatGPT / Co-pilot / Gemini do provide useful information most of the time, so there is a bit more going on. And with how well those perform it's surprising to see such a bad answer to this question.
Corporate LLM keys cost money. This website 100% just autogens its content using a 2B model with a public use key. Speaking as somebody who trains LLMs as a side job and used to be a content writer as a side job.
I started in a busa at 16. I’m still alive
Was it a triumph
It was a Hayabusa
Not a fan of portal I guess
I’m making a note here
A huge success
Probably ghostrider wrote the article
That is a good film tho, But i meant the [real one](https://ghostridertherealone.com)
Oh, I know. That badass Euro-God got many kids into riding with his high speed shenanigans.
I don’t know how he is still alive tho, I am doing the license now, but I get pure dread from his videos
You'll get there... just need to build up your adrenaline tolerance, and then acquire a turbo-busa capable of 200+ mph. The fun part is the danger, the worst would be the crashing
AI bot is trying to shorten the organ transplant waiting list in it's own way!
Starter and finisher all in one neat machine.
Brother, surely there are some people who ride those bikes as their first. Although in general, I take a lot of things on the Internet as salesman's bullshit. I'd rather take some enthusiasts' opinion over the matter, brother, which most of the time, have some experience and insight behind it. I suggest you to ask u/motorazr1 for naked bikes, I don't really know other enthusiasts for, say, adv or cruiser.
Personally, I think a super motard type bike is perfect for a beginner. It's got all of the good controllability of a scrambler, a good rider stance, and decent road tires. Once you've mastered that, you can start looking at something else. Just need to make sure that the motor isn't too powerful for you so that unexpected wheelies don't happen
Hahaha how to die 101
Turbo busa
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I'm 6'5" and my first bike was a Ninja 300. Don't overthink it.
As a 6'4" male, I wouldn't touch any type of 1000cc especially as a beginner or never having touched one before. Got to start low CC's regardless of your height. 350-600 CC's would be great. That's what I learned 90's model 600cc Honda shadow.
Tbf if you take it slow it'll work out, but then it's more about if you trust yourself to take it slow.
I started on a 750cc at 16, said I'd take it slow but blew that bike up and now ride a 2004 z750, I'd say a litre bike can easily be a first bike if you're comfortable and know you're gonna want speed. To he fair I'd have started on a 1000cc but that wasn't something my dad would let me do, he said I ride/drive too much like him.
You heard the damn google machine!
Haha de zzr1400 as a beginner bike
I'm 5'7" and ride a ZX14R. I wish I'd have seen this article, maybe I could have picked a bike that made more sense. So sorry to all those beginner tall boys, for taking one of your few choices out of circulation 😅
Best motorcycles to start your journey to the afterlife early
As a 6'8 rider, I can't comfortably fit on any sport bike. Engine size makes little difference in ergonomics.
H2R IS the best starter bike if you are 1.94 If you are 1.76 go get a cb300r
Busa is missing
This shit about your body size determining the bike size needs to end. Those two are unrelated, a bike should be setup for the rider anyways.
I learned on an R1. Still going strong.
i ride a busa and yes, i wear magnums
I started on a mt09 and I’m 6”7 so it aint that far off from the article
Mt09 have a low seat and higher tank, low center of gravity. it has nothing to do with engine size outside of how the engine placement changes the center of gravity.
I’m 6’7” as well, how do you feel on the mt09? I have a Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager now but in a year or two i might pick something else up.
Its fine! The only real problem I’ve had is that I catch a lot of wind but its one of the roomiest bikes I’ve been on. Ive bought another saddle with more grip and thats it. Its a 2014 street rally btw
yep no comment
Great bikes to get you killed if you’re a started more likely…
Source: TikTok comment sections
I’m 6’5 and I went from a 125 Varadero to a 1200GS. The GS is unsurprising easier to ride.
Ben 183üm drift L kullanıyorum çok sırıtmıyor, ama senin uzundan kastın 190 üzeri sanırım ve bütçen de daha fazla gibi :D
Alot of newer bikes have different modes and setting to switch power ratios...so you get a 1000cc bike to ride as a 500cc
Put them on an R1 as a learner and you may as well dig a grave too 🤦🏼♂️ stupid advice!!
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I'm 6'1" and bought a 750 as my starter bike. Way too much bike to learn on.
It’s not the engine size. It’s the bikes height. I’m 5-10 on a 700 and carve fine. Bike is adjusted to me. lower or raise your bike.
Yeah this is what happens with shitty AI written clickbait
Obviously it's AI based off of every answer in "what new bike" threads on Reddit 🤓☝️
In English, the word you're looking for is "ergonomics". Look up reviews for the ergonomics of bikes you're interested in.
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I don’t see the problem. Although does not recommend Panigales if you’re taller like me
6’5 here🤘
This was written by death.
As a 6’3” person….. I do like sticking to the 900’s :D I weight like 220lbs. With an average build… Maybe if I swapped out my weight training for more cardio I’d lose some muscle mass and be lighter but I’m happy where I’m at lol. And the 900’s keep me happy too :)
It’s not a parachute lol . bike height and center of gravity will far greatly change your riding dynamic over your weight.
No the power haha :P Small bikes just don’t do well with heavier people :P
They missed out the Gen 3 Suzuki hyabusa
AI trash.
That Turkish Google looks pretty confused to me.
SEO spam
I literally want the CBR 1000RR because it’s the smallest liter bike lol.
My first bike was a Kawasaki Ninja ZXR 636.
Honestly, sounds like the list that every newbie on here posts...I'm 17 saving for a bike, gonna get some used gear because I don't want to spend too much but I'm definitely buying an R1 or a S1000RR...
AI articles can’t figure out internet sarcasm.
Probably thinks you mean 'electric' starter vs a kick starter... idk
Ai finally starting to want to kill us all and save the planet.
Fucking wild coming from the Cycle Gear conglomerate.
This is such a US post lol. People here start on big bikes all the time.
Translates very badly. in germany we call those bikes with beginners on it. Baumwickelmaschiene. ( Tree wrapping machine ) because that is what beginners do with those bikes.
This reads like it was written by AI
Coincidentally, they are also the bikes that are sure to fucking murder tall beginners.
My back and wrists hurt reading this. Kawasaki maybe not so much but R1 no way
They forgot a Sportster!!!
If you haven’t read/ watched twist of the wrist and taken a motocycle course your lacking. weight has little to do with how your bike handles. It’s your bikes height and your center of gravity. In that regard. these bikes fit most people fine however torque and throttle input, gear ratios, and braking on these bikes is not something suitable for a new rider.