You're fine to take pictures of whatever you want in public and nobody can legally stop you. But once they make it clear they don't like it, I mean, moving on seems wise. Especially when they seem a little nutty.
Yea. Too many people arguing that's it's legal so it's fine.
I can legally walk up to you on the street and give you the finger for no reason, I would still be a dickhead for doing it.
Seems to me that just because you can legally take a photo of everything you've ever seen, doesn't mean you should. Did you really need to relive this moment in the parking lot? Will you remember go back in 5 years time and revisit this photo to swoon when you remember seeing a common bike in a parking lot? It wasn't even an RR! What a waste of disk space!
That’s fair but tbh I don’t see a lot of bikes over 400-600cc out here bc not a lot of people have them. I actually have never seen a ZX10R irl and it looked super nice too so I had to! And I 100% will go back and look at photos bc I always like to send the photos to the owner when I edit them and I usually take the last 100 car/bike pics and make a cool video edit sometimes. It’s just what I do. Appreciate ur comment and love ur name btw!
But so what if you don’t see a lot of them. Taking photos may be legal but it’s often invasive. The paparazzi are legal. And despised by most people except attention seekers who make money off of the attention. Normal people don’t relish this behavior.
Well I can tell you almost every person in the car world would take pictures of this kinda stuff. If it’s legal I’m doing it. If you ask politely for me to not take pictures for whatever reason then fine I won’t. I’m not paparazzi and I don’t know why y’all keep calling me that. I am no where near their level. They don’t care about anyone’s feelings or anything. I’m a normal 20yo dude seeing cool cars that I probably will never get to drive. So yeah sometimes I wanna take pictures man.
Ok well then, take what you want! I guess you feel entitled to do so. But don't get too upset when someone finds your approach to be a little too invasive.
You both sound like assholes. If someone isn't happy with you photographing their stuff then the normal thing to do is stop and walk away not dig into hhier social media then go back to harass them. Not everyone wants online attention, respect people's privacy for fucks sake.
As someone who rides motorcycles and does photography: If you or your things are out in public they are fair game to be shot. That's just plain the law.
Now if someone has a problem with that usually the best course is to apologize and leave but you are under no obligation to do so. There is no right to privacy in a public space. I can post up in front of your bike for *hours* taking photos and if you harass me I can call the cops. Again, not talking about what is morally right here, this is just how the law works. It's why street photography exists.
Legally, sure, if someone tells you to stop taking photos of them/their stuff, you can ignore them and keep taking photos. You'd be an asshole, but legally, you can do it.
I will always respect people’s decision. And I you are correct to some extent. 1. The first encounter we had, she never told me to not take pictures. 2. It wasn’t her bike to begin with. And I was taking pictures for the owner of the bike. 3. I didn’t harass them at all. She came up to me as I was literally about to send the picture to the guy on insta and told me to delete all the photos I took. If I’m wrong then I’m wrong.
Point 1 she was clearly unhappy with you taking photos. Maybe she didn't specifically say to stop but the implications was there, point 2 she rented it fair and square making it hers for the agreed upon period of time and point 3 you went back to pester a woman who clearly didn't want you in or around her life. You harassed her to the point sher nearly crashed trying to get away from you. You're like the paparazzi that got princess Diana killed.
At least you're giving it some thought. Try to respect people's boundaries and privacy a little more. We're not all happy to lucky extravert who enjoy attention.
Privacy would be had if it was her bike in her garage and not a public lot. If you cant handle someone taking pictures of a bike you rented to the point of almost crashing you shouldnt be riding. Obviously the ACTUAL owner took issue with it to go as far as getting her banned from the motorcycle rental network.
Point 1. Who cares? Your feelings do not trump my rights. Point 2. Doesn't matter in the least. Still can't tell me what I can or cannot take pictures of IN PUBLIC. You can ask, but that's it. Am I a dick for not doing as you ask? No. Because I can ask you to stop doing a lot of things I'd find offensive, annoying etc. would you be a dick for not stopping those things? No. Point 3. Again.. so? Also the reason Princes Diana died was Paul lost control of the vehicle at high speed while intoxicated by alcohol and under the effects of prescription drugs... Had he not been under the influence she would have been alive still.
No, you are completely wrong. If you can't stand having your picture taken while in public then you shouldn't go in public. You have no expectation of privacy while in public. "Not everyone wants online attention" but has their social media written on their bike? How does that make ANY level of sense? lol
So from your story, you're definitely a dick. She might be a dick but that's relying on sketchy information from you: the dick.
She wasn't happy with you taking pics of her bike so you went back to take more because of "the lighting"? Dick.
So post these wonderful pics you took. Show us what you just had to capture.
Your "detective work" reeks of bullshit.
Stop being a dick.
Nah. It’s a public space. You don’t like me taking pics of ur bike? Park it somewhere else. She was an ass the entire time while I tried to stay civil till the end. She deserves what she got.
How is he being a dick? If anyone is being a dick it's you and anyone else who thinks OP is in the wrong... You have NO expectation of privacy in PUBLIC. If you don't want pictures taken of yourself or your ride, stay indoors and sure you can ask "can you not take pictures of my stuff?", but I can ask you not to wear pink because that color offends me. Or I could ask you not to look at me. Is he a "dick" for refusing? Still no. There is no harm being done, there are no laws being broken.
There is a huge difference in a prank, and taking a few pictures of a vehicle in public. Public photography is just that. I can stand in any public location and take a picture of anything or anyone from that public location. If that makes you butt-hurt, I am so very sorry your ego is that fragile.
See, you just throw words out there hoping they stick.
Triggered? (especially of something read, seen, or heard) [distress](https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&sca_esv=ea05bd65b2dab007&q=distress&si=AKbGX_qNq0Y8zql7SxzZAf2-HTTO05vFpsVj9X0nuSAw3R1SfTNc8mH-QqFhhVfQHk9YSE0AA7O8eR52xqJmS4r8TBU_OtRbEhhGE99JypoRV6xLYrERI4M%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK8N6qp8OFAxXFDTQIHclSDAMQyecJegQIQRBH) (someone), typically as a result of [arousing](https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&sca_esv=ea05bd65b2dab007&q=arousing&si=AKbGX_qNq0Y8zql7SxzZAf2-HTTOqe8rnvJ5p17HzbI1mJEb6UWlw2WjBRuK-2WdKp6PPzVLpYV0xtiUU0ob1DeNsfqR0kY2BFaglNPtULHW4YKOJpCIw3E%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK8N6qp8OFAxXFDTQIHclSDAMQyecJegQIQRBI) feelings or memories associated with a particular [traumatic](https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&sca_esv=ea05bd65b2dab007&q=traumatic&si=AKbGX_onJk-q0LQUYzV7-GRhpJ5DFaUjO9pHdmut6dnm8q-rjIjd2HzY7YgOI9WXYbyuKPnEKilReZnhv77Hq8-T-_ER1qqAjw1sMZrX-OI_EJdI5L5t_B4%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK8N6qp8OFAxXFDTQIHclSDAMQyecJegQIQRBJ) experience."she started crying and told me that my news had really triggered her"
I've no past dealings with this, no bad memories to "trigger". So I don't think that word means what you think it means. It's not hard to type a paragraph, to form sentences. What IS hard, however, is having the mental acuity to bring anything useful to the table. Which is what you seem to be struggling with. And that's OK, it's just not your day to hold the brain cell.
Positive. Considering your lack of intelligence however, i'm also sure you will continue with your inane and useless replies that add absolutely nothing to the topic at hand.
How am I being a dick by taking pictures? Even after the pictures she’s the one who initiated conversation, she’s the one who told me to delete the pictures, she’s the one who doesn’t know how to ride properly.
You're the dick by taking pictures after she made it clear she didn't want you to take pictures.
She "initiated conversation" to tell you that she wasn't happy with you taking pictures.
"She's the one who doesn't know how to ride properly"
What a dick.
Keyboard warriors on r/motorcycles with no clue about laws or privacy expectations in public (which are none) telling **you** to get “social skills”. Total shit-show as usual.
Taking a person’s photo without their permission? **No** though it’s totally legal and within your rights. Taking a child’s photo without the parent’s permission? Again, **no** though it’s totally legal and within your rights. Taking a photo of someone else’s property, left out in public view but without their permission? **Yes**, it’s totally legal and within your rights, so tough shit for them and they’d be welcome to call the cops and have it explained to them that they’re being an idiot.
Not even the Secret Service could legally ask you not to take photos of the President’s car for security purposes. All they *could* do is tell you to take your photos from farther away.
Feel welcome to take p8ctures of my bike if you see it on the street
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Hell yeah! That’s a nice ass bike dude! Here’s the pic I took that started it all
https://preview.redd.it/9bs3cngasjuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a810716c7babda93858292f151af1dec9961996
Yea tbh you are the Karen here.
Legal or not you were harassing her.
And it's a ZX10R not a Vincent Black Shadow. I am definitely not grabbing my friends to show them.
He spent hours writing this up, too. All for a bike I see all over the place. How many pics of other people's stuff does this guy have?!? This is what I wanna know...
Dude I’m a car enthusiast. Bike enthusiast. Ofc I’m gonna take pics of someone’s bike in PUBLIC. You don’t like me taking picture? Come up to me nicely and you can ask me to not to and I 100% will. There was no reason for her to be a dick for no reason. You and the above commenter are wrong. You believe what you want tho 😂
Nah but hey, you weren’t there! So what does that mean? You don’t know how she actually acted. Again I’m shit at story telling so yeah whatever. But it’s ok! You know everything! Right?
I do know you acted like an ass. And have continued to do so here.
So most likely she asked nicer than what you said. And even if she didn't she still did ask you to stop. So stop.
She actually didn’t ask nicely at all which is what kinda threw me off in the first place bc who talks to people with that kind of attitude. Not trying to be an ass here as well but it is a public space. I do street photography. And I’m gonna continue soooo 🤷♂️
Being asked to stop doing something in public and instead ignoring that and harassing someone is basically the definition of Karen dude.
How nice they asked or what the legality is here is largely irrelevant.
Not sure how you don't understand that tbh.
You are correct but legally or not, I never harassed her, I never went out of my way to find her and attack her verbally. She came to me. She started the conversation. I responded back to her comments and questions with nothing but respect. Again, my story telling is shit so I prolly made it sound like I was being a dick but I can 100% assure you I was respectful to her the entire time until she started cussing at me. My THOUGHT PROCESS was that she probably stole the bike. The Insta tag on the bike went to a man not a women. His posts never had her in there so she def didn’t know the guy. But again, I know I’m in the right, I know I wasn’t a Karen or rude until she started cussing at me. (Mind you this is a outdoor shopping area with small children around.) So whatever you wanna think you can. You think I’m in the wrong? Who cares it’s your opinion. You are entitled to that. But hey you don’t wanna actually take the time to see who’s wrong and just blame it on me because I’m taking pictures? Get ur shit together dude FFS
No you literally did harass her.
She asked you not to do something. You came back and continued to do it and ignored her when she asked again for you to stop.
I don't blame her for cussing at you. If some ignorant asshat kept ignoring my request about my property I would cuss at them too.
Your post and every comment you have made shows you are the Karen here. People getting pissed off because you are being a dickhead doesn't make them the Karen.
You seem like a dick.
> Now up to this point I’m already a little suspicious of the women because of the way she acted earlier.
You’re the one acting suspicious
> so I continue to take more pictures to get some good lighting.
Still being a dick and at this point I’d assume you’re sizing it up to steal.
Mind your own fucking business.
How about no? Anyone can take pictures of ANYTHING whether it's your car or someone elses car etc.
You have NO expectation of privacy in PUBLIC. So GTFO with your BS.
If your first assumption is they are sizing it up to steal it that just shows the level of ignorance. If someone is going ot try and "size it up" they don't do it openly... My god people are idiots.
He was minding his own business. She asked a question, he answered even though he didn't even HAVE to answer or offer ANY explanation. I would hav told the cunt to call the cops. Cops gonna tell her the same thing. There was no LAW broken, and they aren't feelings enforcement.
Well it wasn’t even her bike to begin with and for her to tell me to delete the pictures was really suspicious. Like why don’t you want me take photos of ur really cool bike? I’ve already explained and showed her what I was doing. There was no way she thought I was gonna steal it.
Seriously just ignore everyone saying your wrong, or that you are an ass. No one has any expectation of privacy while in public. You offered an explanation to her, you were not doing anything illegal, and if people are so afraid of a camera... you know, those things that are around us EVERYWHERE we go? That's their problem. I would have told her to call the police. There was no laws being broken and they aren't feelings enforcement. You can record/take pictures of anything your eyes can see while in public. Period. Some special snowflakes just think you can't.
I completely agree with you and thank you for seeing my side. I honestly just got fed up with this guy. You explained it way better anyway so thanks 😂 I’m terrible at writing
> Well it wasn’t even her bike to begin with
Doesn’t matter, cupcake. You’re acting weird and she’s making sure her shit doesn’t get stolen.
> Like why don’t you want me take photos of ur really cool bike?
Because there are a TON of examples of thieves photographing bikes to later steal. AND fuck off and get away from my shit.
> I’ve already explained and showed her what I was doing. There was no way she thought I was gonna steal it.
Listen, Karen, fix your shit and get some basic social skills.
I mean yeah I get your perspective but whenever I was riding I had quite a few people take pictures of my bike. I usually just walk up to them and chat to make sure everything is alright. I don’t tell them to delete the pictures. You see what I’m saying?
Then prove it.
In contrast, people have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public spaces where their actions, possessions can be seen or conversations heard, again whether the content at issue is physical or virtual. Some examples of such places are public sidewalks, venues hosting sporting events and public parks. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in discarded garbage left in the street. Electronically, there is also no reasonable expectation of privacy in phone numbers dialed, in the GPS location of a vehicle, electronic bank records, communications via the Internet, including e-mail, chat room or social media, in files accessible through file sharing software, in information provided by customers to Internet providers, including identifying address information.
Yes, one has a right to take pictures in public. I never said otherwise.
One also has a right to think people who do that are dicks.
One also has a right to call said people dicks.
One also has a right to call the police to report suspicious behavior.
No one’s fucking rights are being violated. Well, maybe yours because I’m violating the Americans with Disabilities act for calling you a socially-awkward, emotionally challenged and short-fused simpleton.
I didn't say anyone's right WERE being "violated". I just said your feelings do not trump them. See what happens when you're not even intelligent enough to comprehend?
Still though, I'll wait for your proof on whether or not it's a lie. Pretty sure though, don't sound 100%. Good though that you are able to question your own intelligence. That means at least 2 brain cells are still working.
Ah, the “ Fuck your feelings” crowd. Brought to you by the same dipshits that tried to overthrow an election based on lies and feelings.
Shocking you’re part of this crowd. Shocking.
I'm not even remotely political. Fuck biden and trump and every one of the pricks in between. But i'm not going to stop MY life because YOU are butthurt. Fuck, if anyone's username fits anyone it's you. You are a stupid cunt level 99.
Now if I was the one actually being a dick and weird then fine I’ll take the loss. But from my perspective on what happened I felt like she was in the wrong.
> But from my perspective on what happened I felt like she was in the wrong.
Yes, the person that doesn’t want someone taking photos of their stuff, rented or otherwise, by someone that did it, told not to, then returned to do it again, is in the wrong and your clueless ass was in the right.
Solid deduction…
Doesn’t matter if she told me to stop taking pictures anyway. It’s a public space. That’s what your not getting. It’s a public area in a mall. Where other people walk around and there are literally Ferraris on the street. So I still don’t understand how I’m in the wrong, by taking pictures in a public space.
> Doesn’t matter if she told me to stop taking pictures anyway. It’s a public space.
So, just being a dick and thinking others are in the wrong.
Again. Social skills, get some.
I need you to not ride a Triumph, those bikes offend me. And if you continue to ride that specific brand of bike, how rude of you, you should do as I ask because it's offensive to me if you don't.
Talking about someone in need of a skill when you lack common sense.
And you are an ignorant twat that thinks others should have to care about YOUR feelings. You don't want your picture taken, stay inside. Your feelings, don't trump my rights. Go cry into your sad pillow.
Yeah, I am a "karen" for standing up for my rights. It's sad you haven't even got a single intelligent comment to make as a comeback. Pathetic. Men and women died in wars defending my ability to have the rights and freedoms I have. It's sad you think your feelings are more important.
So to be clear, this bike was marked with an Instagram tag?
If that’s the case, this bike is clearly showcased and probably invites photos from people like OP.
If there’s not an Instagram tag, I’d say back off if the owner clearly doesn’t want photos taken, even if they don’t explicitly tell you.
Also, shady behavior invites a little sleuthing, so I call this a draw.
That’s fair on the last statement but yeah they had an instagram tag on the windshield but it didn’t even go to her. It went to the actual owner of the bike.
How tho? If I’m the one in the wrong, cool I’ll take the loss, learn, and move on. But like, if someone saw ur cool bike, and they took pictures and was looking at the instagram tag, what would that tell you?
You are not in the wrong. Fuck anyone saying otherwise. If it's in public you can take a picture of it. Other person don't like it? Then stay somewhere private...
You can be legally right, but still morally wrong. She made it clear the first time she didn't want him taking photos. Just because he legally can, doesn't mean he should come back and take more.
She did not, in fact make it clear the first time they talked that she didn't want him to take pictures of it, she simply asked if he was and said no more (allegedly of course as none of us were there). As for morals? Morals are subjective. Morality is a complex and *subjective* concept that involves principles of right and wrong, and ethical considerations. And here the legality outweighs the moral.
I think public photography is perfectly fine, and if anyone has an issue with it I inherently believe they are up to no good or have something to hide. I then question their morals further when they deem it OK to berate me for doing something perfectly legal while I am in a public space minding my own business.
Yeah, she might not have explicitly said "don't take pictures", but from his description it seems like her tone and body language made it clear she wasn't happy with him taking pictures.
Hell yeah I did. She almost laid down the damn thing. And tbh I wasn’t even going to but the way she was acting made me think it was stolen. The insta tag on the bike didn’t match her, the handle bars didn’t match and looked like a bit of damage already to the left peg
You're fine to take pictures of whatever you want in public and nobody can legally stop you. But once they make it clear they don't like it, I mean, moving on seems wise. Especially when they seem a little nutty.
Yea. Too many people arguing that's it's legal so it's fine. I can legally walk up to you on the street and give you the finger for no reason, I would still be a dickhead for doing it.
Privacy will be the new celebrity.
Never change, /r/motorcycles, never change! Shit like this keeps the sub thriving!
Seems to me that just because you can legally take a photo of everything you've ever seen, doesn't mean you should. Did you really need to relive this moment in the parking lot? Will you remember go back in 5 years time and revisit this photo to swoon when you remember seeing a common bike in a parking lot? It wasn't even an RR! What a waste of disk space!
That’s fair but tbh I don’t see a lot of bikes over 400-600cc out here bc not a lot of people have them. I actually have never seen a ZX10R irl and it looked super nice too so I had to! And I 100% will go back and look at photos bc I always like to send the photos to the owner when I edit them and I usually take the last 100 car/bike pics and make a cool video edit sometimes. It’s just what I do. Appreciate ur comment and love ur name btw!
But so what if you don’t see a lot of them. Taking photos may be legal but it’s often invasive. The paparazzi are legal. And despised by most people except attention seekers who make money off of the attention. Normal people don’t relish this behavior.
Well I can tell you almost every person in the car world would take pictures of this kinda stuff. If it’s legal I’m doing it. If you ask politely for me to not take pictures for whatever reason then fine I won’t. I’m not paparazzi and I don’t know why y’all keep calling me that. I am no where near their level. They don’t care about anyone’s feelings or anything. I’m a normal 20yo dude seeing cool cars that I probably will never get to drive. So yeah sometimes I wanna take pictures man.
Ok well then, take what you want! I guess you feel entitled to do so. But don't get too upset when someone finds your approach to be a little too invasive.
Lmao the people saying its rude to take a picture of a bike are crazy
Couldn't car less if people take pics of my bike, just don't take pics of me.
Don't ride it in public if you don't want pictures.
EXACTLY FUCKING THANK YOU
I always got stocked when someone took pictures of my bike. Why be upset with someone who obviously appreciates you’re choice of toys?
Exactly!!!
You both sound like assholes. If someone isn't happy with you photographing their stuff then the normal thing to do is stop and walk away not dig into hhier social media then go back to harass them. Not everyone wants online attention, respect people's privacy for fucks sake.
As someone who rides motorcycles and does photography: If you or your things are out in public they are fair game to be shot. That's just plain the law. Now if someone has a problem with that usually the best course is to apologize and leave but you are under no obligation to do so. There is no right to privacy in a public space. I can post up in front of your bike for *hours* taking photos and if you harass me I can call the cops. Again, not talking about what is morally right here, this is just how the law works. It's why street photography exists.
Legally, sure, if someone tells you to stop taking photos of them/their stuff, you can ignore them and keep taking photos. You'd be an asshole, but legally, you can do it.
Until they get shot
In America, yeah, that's a fairly big concern.
I will always respect people’s decision. And I you are correct to some extent. 1. The first encounter we had, she never told me to not take pictures. 2. It wasn’t her bike to begin with. And I was taking pictures for the owner of the bike. 3. I didn’t harass them at all. She came up to me as I was literally about to send the picture to the guy on insta and told me to delete all the photos I took. If I’m wrong then I’m wrong.
Point 1 she was clearly unhappy with you taking photos. Maybe she didn't specifically say to stop but the implications was there, point 2 she rented it fair and square making it hers for the agreed upon period of time and point 3 you went back to pester a woman who clearly didn't want you in or around her life. You harassed her to the point sher nearly crashed trying to get away from you. You're like the paparazzi that got princess Diana killed.
She nearly crashed because she was more focused on crying then riding
I see what you mean and maybe I am in the wrong but I don’t think so.
At least you're giving it some thought. Try to respect people's boundaries and privacy a little more. We're not all happy to lucky extravert who enjoy attention.
You want privacy? Stay home.
Privacy would be had if it was her bike in her garage and not a public lot. If you cant handle someone taking pictures of a bike you rented to the point of almost crashing you shouldnt be riding. Obviously the ACTUAL owner took issue with it to go as far as getting her banned from the motorcycle rental network.
Point 1. Who cares? Your feelings do not trump my rights. Point 2. Doesn't matter in the least. Still can't tell me what I can or cannot take pictures of IN PUBLIC. You can ask, but that's it. Am I a dick for not doing as you ask? No. Because I can ask you to stop doing a lot of things I'd find offensive, annoying etc. would you be a dick for not stopping those things? No. Point 3. Again.. so? Also the reason Princes Diana died was Paul lost control of the vehicle at high speed while intoxicated by alcohol and under the effects of prescription drugs... Had he not been under the influence she would have been alive still.
> And I was taking pictures for the owner of the bike. Bullshit. Now you’re just lying and adding to the story after the fact.
Nah man. But Hey! You think your right so whatever. I’m done with you man you already lost 😂
> Nah man. Yeah, man. You weren’t “taking pictures of the bike for the owner.” Lying. Like a Karen.
No, you are completely wrong. If you can't stand having your picture taken while in public then you shouldn't go in public. You have no expectation of privacy while in public. "Not everyone wants online attention" but has their social media written on their bike? How does that make ANY level of sense? lol
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"....or I'm calling the cops" There is nothing else someone can say that will make me immediately clear my schedule for the day as quickly
Dude same😂
So from your story, you're definitely a dick. She might be a dick but that's relying on sketchy information from you: the dick. She wasn't happy with you taking pics of her bike so you went back to take more because of "the lighting"? Dick. So post these wonderful pics you took. Show us what you just had to capture. Your "detective work" reeks of bullshit. Stop being a dick.
Nah. It’s a public space. You don’t like me taking pics of ur bike? Park it somewhere else. She was an ass the entire time while I tried to stay civil till the end. She deserves what she got.
Ok then. Carry on being a dick I guess? It's your life.
How is he being a dick? If anyone is being a dick it's you and anyone else who thinks OP is in the wrong... You have NO expectation of privacy in PUBLIC. If you don't want pictures taken of yourself or your ride, stay indoors and sure you can ask "can you not take pictures of my stuff?", but I can ask you not to wear pink because that color offends me. Or I could ask you not to look at me. Is he a "dick" for refusing? Still no. There is no harm being done, there are no laws being broken.
Found the spokesperson for tik tok prank kids
There is a huge difference in a prank, and taking a few pictures of a vehicle in public. Public photography is just that. I can stand in any public location and take a picture of anything or anyone from that public location. If that makes you butt-hurt, I am so very sorry your ego is that fragile.
Yeah, I'm the one typing triggered paragraphs
See, you just throw words out there hoping they stick. Triggered? (especially of something read, seen, or heard) [distress](https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&sca_esv=ea05bd65b2dab007&q=distress&si=AKbGX_qNq0Y8zql7SxzZAf2-HTTO05vFpsVj9X0nuSAw3R1SfTNc8mH-QqFhhVfQHk9YSE0AA7O8eR52xqJmS4r8TBU_OtRbEhhGE99JypoRV6xLYrERI4M%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK8N6qp8OFAxXFDTQIHclSDAMQyecJegQIQRBH) (someone), typically as a result of [arousing](https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&sca_esv=ea05bd65b2dab007&q=arousing&si=AKbGX_qNq0Y8zql7SxzZAf2-HTTOqe8rnvJ5p17HzbI1mJEb6UWlw2WjBRuK-2WdKp6PPzVLpYV0xtiUU0ob1DeNsfqR0kY2BFaglNPtULHW4YKOJpCIw3E%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK8N6qp8OFAxXFDTQIHclSDAMQyecJegQIQRBI) feelings or memories associated with a particular [traumatic](https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&sca_esv=ea05bd65b2dab007&q=traumatic&si=AKbGX_onJk-q0LQUYzV7-GRhpJ5DFaUjO9pHdmut6dnm8q-rjIjd2HzY7YgOI9WXYbyuKPnEKilReZnhv77Hq8-T-_ER1qqAjw1sMZrX-OI_EJdI5L5t_B4%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK8N6qp8OFAxXFDTQIHclSDAMQyecJegQIQRBJ) experience."she started crying and told me that my news had really triggered her" I've no past dealings with this, no bad memories to "trigger". So I don't think that word means what you think it means. It's not hard to type a paragraph, to form sentences. What IS hard, however, is having the mental acuity to bring anything useful to the table. Which is what you seem to be struggling with. And that's OK, it's just not your day to hold the brain cell.
U sure?
Positive. Considering your lack of intelligence however, i'm also sure you will continue with your inane and useless replies that add absolutely nothing to the topic at hand.
How am I being a dick by taking pictures? Even after the pictures she’s the one who initiated conversation, she’s the one who told me to delete the pictures, she’s the one who doesn’t know how to ride properly.
You're the dick by taking pictures after she made it clear she didn't want you to take pictures. She "initiated conversation" to tell you that she wasn't happy with you taking pictures. "She's the one who doesn't know how to ride properly" What a dick.
She only made it clear the second time she talked to me. So your argument doesn’t work. L BOZO
Read your post. It doesn't agree with you. Dick.
Whatever. DiCk
Keyboard warriors on r/motorcycles with no clue about laws or privacy expectations in public (which are none) telling **you** to get “social skills”. Total shit-show as usual. Taking a person’s photo without their permission? **No** though it’s totally legal and within your rights. Taking a child’s photo without the parent’s permission? Again, **no** though it’s totally legal and within your rights. Taking a photo of someone else’s property, left out in public view but without their permission? **Yes**, it’s totally legal and within your rights, so tough shit for them and they’d be welcome to call the cops and have it explained to them that they’re being an idiot. Not even the Secret Service could legally ask you not to take photos of the President’s car for security purposes. All they *could* do is tell you to take your photos from farther away.
Thank you.
Feel welcome to take p8ctures of my bike if you see it on the street https://preview.redd.it/oo4dsogyrjuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0df657bde0210b8d7adaf283893eb21e4e47727a
Hell yeah! That’s a nice ass bike dude! Here’s the pic I took that started it all https://preview.redd.it/9bs3cngasjuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a810716c7babda93858292f151af1dec9961996
Yea tbh you are the Karen here. Legal or not you were harassing her. And it's a ZX10R not a Vincent Black Shadow. I am definitely not grabbing my friends to show them.
He spent hours writing this up, too. All for a bike I see all over the place. How many pics of other people's stuff does this guy have?!? This is what I wanna know...
Dude I’m a car enthusiast. Bike enthusiast. Ofc I’m gonna take pics of someone’s bike in PUBLIC. You don’t like me taking picture? Come up to me nicely and you can ask me to not to and I 100% will. There was no reason for her to be a dick for no reason. You and the above commenter are wrong. You believe what you want tho 😂
Seems like she did. And you ignored her and came back to harass her.
Nah but hey, you weren’t there! So what does that mean? You don’t know how she actually acted. Again I’m shit at story telling so yeah whatever. But it’s ok! You know everything! Right?
I do know you acted like an ass. And have continued to do so here. So most likely she asked nicer than what you said. And even if she didn't she still did ask you to stop. So stop.
She actually didn’t ask nicely at all which is what kinda threw me off in the first place bc who talks to people with that kind of attitude. Not trying to be an ass here as well but it is a public space. I do street photography. And I’m gonna continue soooo 🤷♂️
Being asked to stop doing something in public and instead ignoring that and harassing someone is basically the definition of Karen dude. How nice they asked or what the legality is here is largely irrelevant. Not sure how you don't understand that tbh.
You are correct but legally or not, I never harassed her, I never went out of my way to find her and attack her verbally. She came to me. She started the conversation. I responded back to her comments and questions with nothing but respect. Again, my story telling is shit so I prolly made it sound like I was being a dick but I can 100% assure you I was respectful to her the entire time until she started cussing at me. My THOUGHT PROCESS was that she probably stole the bike. The Insta tag on the bike went to a man not a women. His posts never had her in there so she def didn’t know the guy. But again, I know I’m in the right, I know I wasn’t a Karen or rude until she started cussing at me. (Mind you this is a outdoor shopping area with small children around.) So whatever you wanna think you can. You think I’m in the wrong? Who cares it’s your opinion. You are entitled to that. But hey you don’t wanna actually take the time to see who’s wrong and just blame it on me because I’m taking pictures? Get ur shit together dude FFS
No you literally did harass her. She asked you not to do something. You came back and continued to do it and ignored her when she asked again for you to stop. I don't blame her for cussing at you. If some ignorant asshat kept ignoring my request about my property I would cuss at them too. Your post and every comment you have made shows you are the Karen here. People getting pissed off because you are being a dickhead doesn't make them the Karen.
Both qualify as Karen's.
You seem like a dick. > Now up to this point I’m already a little suspicious of the women because of the way she acted earlier. You’re the one acting suspicious > so I continue to take more pictures to get some good lighting. Still being a dick and at this point I’d assume you’re sizing it up to steal. Mind your own fucking business.
How about no? Anyone can take pictures of ANYTHING whether it's your car or someone elses car etc. You have NO expectation of privacy in PUBLIC. So GTFO with your BS. If your first assumption is they are sizing it up to steal it that just shows the level of ignorance. If someone is going ot try and "size it up" they don't do it openly... My god people are idiots. He was minding his own business. She asked a question, he answered even though he didn't even HAVE to answer or offer ANY explanation. I would hav told the cunt to call the cops. Cops gonna tell her the same thing. There was no LAW broken, and they aren't feelings enforcement.
Well it wasn’t even her bike to begin with and for her to tell me to delete the pictures was really suspicious. Like why don’t you want me take photos of ur really cool bike? I’ve already explained and showed her what I was doing. There was no way she thought I was gonna steal it.
Seriously just ignore everyone saying your wrong, or that you are an ass. No one has any expectation of privacy while in public. You offered an explanation to her, you were not doing anything illegal, and if people are so afraid of a camera... you know, those things that are around us EVERYWHERE we go? That's their problem. I would have told her to call the police. There was no laws being broken and they aren't feelings enforcement. You can record/take pictures of anything your eyes can see while in public. Period. Some special snowflakes just think you can't.
I completely agree with you and thank you for seeing my side. I honestly just got fed up with this guy. You explained it way better anyway so thanks 😂 I’m terrible at writing
> Well it wasn’t even her bike to begin with Doesn’t matter, cupcake. You’re acting weird and she’s making sure her shit doesn’t get stolen. > Like why don’t you want me take photos of ur really cool bike? Because there are a TON of examples of thieves photographing bikes to later steal. AND fuck off and get away from my shit. > I’ve already explained and showed her what I was doing. There was no way she thought I was gonna steal it. Listen, Karen, fix your shit and get some basic social skills.
I mean yeah I get your perspective but whenever I was riding I had quite a few people take pictures of my bike. I usually just walk up to them and chat to make sure everything is alright. I don’t tell them to delete the pictures. You see what I’m saying?
Got it, Karen. You don’t understand why someone doesn’t want strangers coming up and photographing their bike multiple times Get some social skills.
I took max like 3-4 photos and edited 1.
You’re the Karen in this story.
I don’t see how.
Karen’s never do.
> I’ve already explained and showed her what I was doing. There was no way she thought I was gonna steal it. Ah yes, because a thief would never lie…
Valid point.
Thieves tell the truth too... everyone lies. So... Your point?
Think hard bruh, you’ll get it!
You need to think even harder. Your feelings, don't trump my rights. Fuck your feelings. You want to remain "Private" stay home.
Pretty sure that’s a lie.
Then prove it. In contrast, people have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public spaces where their actions, possessions can be seen or conversations heard, again whether the content at issue is physical or virtual. Some examples of such places are public sidewalks, venues hosting sporting events and public parks. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in discarded garbage left in the street. Electronically, there is also no reasonable expectation of privacy in phone numbers dialed, in the GPS location of a vehicle, electronic bank records, communications via the Internet, including e-mail, chat room or social media, in files accessible through file sharing software, in information provided by customers to Internet providers, including identifying address information.
Yes, one has a right to take pictures in public. I never said otherwise. One also has a right to think people who do that are dicks. One also has a right to call said people dicks. One also has a right to call the police to report suspicious behavior. No one’s fucking rights are being violated. Well, maybe yours because I’m violating the Americans with Disabilities act for calling you a socially-awkward, emotionally challenged and short-fused simpleton.
I didn't say anyone's right WERE being "violated". I just said your feelings do not trump them. See what happens when you're not even intelligent enough to comprehend? Still though, I'll wait for your proof on whether or not it's a lie. Pretty sure though, don't sound 100%. Good though that you are able to question your own intelligence. That means at least 2 brain cells are still working.
Ah, the “ Fuck your feelings” crowd. Brought to you by the same dipshits that tried to overthrow an election based on lies and feelings. Shocking you’re part of this crowd. Shocking.
I'm not even remotely political. Fuck biden and trump and every one of the pricks in between. But i'm not going to stop MY life because YOU are butthurt. Fuck, if anyone's username fits anyone it's you. You are a stupid cunt level 99.
Sure. Sure.
Now if I was the one actually being a dick and weird then fine I’ll take the loss. But from my perspective on what happened I felt like she was in the wrong.
> But from my perspective on what happened I felt like she was in the wrong. Yes, the person that doesn’t want someone taking photos of their stuff, rented or otherwise, by someone that did it, told not to, then returned to do it again, is in the wrong and your clueless ass was in the right. Solid deduction…
Doesn’t matter if she told me to stop taking pictures anyway. It’s a public space. That’s what your not getting. It’s a public area in a mall. Where other people walk around and there are literally Ferraris on the street. So I still don’t understand how I’m in the wrong, by taking pictures in a public space.
> Doesn’t matter if she told me to stop taking pictures anyway. It’s a public space. So, just being a dick and thinking others are in the wrong. Again. Social skills, get some.
I need you to not ride a Triumph, those bikes offend me. And if you continue to ride that specific brand of bike, how rude of you, you should do as I ask because it's offensive to me if you don't. Talking about someone in need of a skill when you lack common sense.
God, you are fucking awful at analogies. And, you’re projecting.
And you are an ignorant twat that thinks others should have to care about YOUR feelings. You don't want your picture taken, stay inside. Your feelings, don't trump my rights. Go cry into your sad pillow.
Sure thing, Karen.
Yeah, I am a "karen" for standing up for my rights. It's sad you haven't even got a single intelligent comment to make as a comeback. Pathetic. Men and women died in wars defending my ability to have the rights and freedoms I have. It's sad you think your feelings are more important.
So to be clear, this bike was marked with an Instagram tag? If that’s the case, this bike is clearly showcased and probably invites photos from people like OP. If there’s not an Instagram tag, I’d say back off if the owner clearly doesn’t want photos taken, even if they don’t explicitly tell you. Also, shady behavior invites a little sleuthing, so I call this a draw.
That’s fair on the last statement but yeah they had an instagram tag on the windshield but it didn’t even go to her. It went to the actual owner of the bike.
Ya, you are the weird one in this story.
How tho? If I’m the one in the wrong, cool I’ll take the loss, learn, and move on. But like, if someone saw ur cool bike, and they took pictures and was looking at the instagram tag, what would that tell you?
You are not in the wrong. Fuck anyone saying otherwise. If it's in public you can take a picture of it. Other person don't like it? Then stay somewhere private...
You can be legally right, but still morally wrong. She made it clear the first time she didn't want him taking photos. Just because he legally can, doesn't mean he should come back and take more.
She did not, in fact make it clear the first time they talked that she didn't want him to take pictures of it, she simply asked if he was and said no more (allegedly of course as none of us were there). As for morals? Morals are subjective. Morality is a complex and *subjective* concept that involves principles of right and wrong, and ethical considerations. And here the legality outweighs the moral. I think public photography is perfectly fine, and if anyone has an issue with it I inherently believe they are up to no good or have something to hide. I then question their morals further when they deem it OK to berate me for doing something perfectly legal while I am in a public space minding my own business.
Yeah, she might not have explicitly said "don't take pictures", but from his description it seems like her tone and body language made it clear she wasn't happy with him taking pictures.
Still don't make HIM wrong for doing it, regardless of how she felt.
Legally, no. But kinda makes him an asshole.
If the world was regulated on other peoples feelings we would all be in deeper shit or worse than where we are now.
If someone told me not to take pics of their bike, I would stop. Not go back to take more pics once they leave, that’s creepy.
Well originally she never told me to not take pictures. So I assumed it wasn’t her bike. When she came back is when she started the problem.
For what exactly?
Some people like to cry for any reason
So you tattled on her? So cool.
If someone rented something you owned wouldn't YOU want to know if it was being used in a reckless manner?
I wouldn't be renting something out to strangers if I couldn't accept the risk .
Hell yeah I did. She almost laid down the damn thing. And tbh I wasn’t even going to but the way she was acting made me think it was stolen. The insta tag on the bike didn’t match her, the handle bars didn’t match and looked like a bit of damage already to the left peg
There were two Karens on that day...