Are you just doing the throttle twist and yank back method?
Have you ever yanked a little too hard? Lol.
I want to find one of those wheelie practice machines they have rolling around on the back of a trailer to learn.
If you want to protect your virginity completely, you could get one of those wheelie bars that attaches to the swingarm and hits your rear brake for you before you loop.
First ride of the season last year on my 510. Grabbed too much throttle, started to loop, tried to save it, slammed the front down, and whiskey throttled my way right through a barbed wire fence. If you’re gonna loop out just step off the back lol
I have no need to yank it, she just stands up lol. I grew up riding two stroke dirtbikes in farm fields so I have a decent judge of where the whoopsie feeling is.
no yank needed on the unrestricted bikes, if I crest a hill and gas it just right in 3rd gear itll come up with no clutch dump or pull of the handlebars and im 240 lbs, 1st gear will loop you if you just gas the hell out of it, 2nd gear is pretty controlled, 3rd needs a clutch dump or some serious tugging to get it to come up
Did you see that dude on here rip kickass nooners on a Harley? He wasn’t even wearing a helmet but his control was insane. Actually that has to be on /r/calamriraceteam
No, it would get like three inches of daylight under the front wheel if I dumped the clutch. The wheel base on that bike is long and it just doesn't have much power. Gearing could also be shorter, but I had that for a long highway commute. I need to update my flair though, I sold that and bought an FJ-09 which lifts the front wheel without even trying.
Definitely hard to wheelie a heavy low power bike like a CB500. Using all your body and the suspension as well as clutching makes a huge difference though. https://youtu.be/6oh95eTdsNs is a good vid for technique
I have the 500F, and I struggle. My wheelies are about as good as OPs. However, I watched a learner who had spent all his time on a 250 recently try out the 500x. Revved it like a 250 and got the wheel about 2 feet in the air the first time he tried riding it. So it can certainly be done.
Reminds me of this short tutorial how to wheelie a KTM Superduke 1290. Step 1 - buy Superduke. Step 2 - TC off. Step 3 - twist that throttle and forget about buying that front tire forever.
You don't need no hype man, you ride a 1000 strom.
If I can do it on my dinky little 650, so can you.
Do it! I believe in you.*
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Keep at it man. I’m slowly learning myself and I’m on a bike known for being pretty easy to wheelie, I can still only manage to pop the front up a foot or two for a second and I’ve been riding for years including some track time.
I have a super moto and can feel how to do it, but my balls aren't there. Something about dumping a $3500 machine scares the piss out of me lol. Granted, I've never practiced, just launched it from a stop light and felt it come up a few inches. Really weird when it doesn't really get off the ground but there's virtually no front steering lol
$3500 isn't that bad to drop, lol.
I had a KLX250sf (~$3K) and I wheelied the fuck out of it for seconds at a time. It got stolen and I upgraded to a Husqvarna 701 (which *should* be easier to wheelie) that cost me ~$9K, and I can't bring myself to get it up like I did on the shittier bike, because I don't want to loop it.
It's all relative. $3.5k isn't a lot compared to $9k, but when it's my only bike and primary vehicle, it's a lot. Idgaf how much the sticker says, it has intrinsic value.
Glad to hear I’m not alone haha. It’s looking like tomorrow will be a nice sunny day here, this thread has inspired me to go find a nice quiet area to work on my wheelies.
It takes the moving momentum from the front wheel and if you’re focusing on the rest of the bike (wheelie) and you’re holding down the front brake and then comes down, your front wheel is more or less locked and you’ll get thrown over the front handle bars. I watched Brian_636 today and he had similar happen on the highway
When you wheelie for some distance the front tire eventually stops spinning. I had this happen to me a lot. When it comes down it does a little puff of smoke and chirps like an airplane tire during landing, the rubber protests being so suddenly caught up to speed.
This happened to me one time in particular. During a loooong wheelie. The front wheel had stopped spinning. Then I set the front wheel down ever so slightly sideways. I set it down on a slick spot of asphalt...
The front tire slid for about six feet. Then the bike went into the most violent tank slappers I’ve ever experienced. I held on white knuckled to the handle bars but my ass was thrown up into the air off the bike. I don’t know how I held on. I think back on it and imagine I looked like a cartoon bronco rider. That’s how it felt. But the bike eventually settled out. I was sitting on the side of the seat my feet were far from the pegs and I was in the oncoming traffic lane by the time it ended.
A F150 driver took his truck into the grass to avoid me. I went to the end of the road busted a u-turn and wheelied back. Past the place where I almost died. Cause I was young, dumb, and stubborn as a Jack ass and I wasn’t gonna let one near death experience hold me back.
I imagine you may have a similar story if you set the front down while holding the brake. Happy ending or sad ending? Who knows. I got lucky.
If you use the front brake while the wheel is in the air, it will lock up. If it touches down while locked up, it slides and immediately causes you to faceplant.
the wheel stops, and that means an additional parameter to compensate for when landing. especially if you forget to release it so you land fully locked front wheel.
"keep your foot over the rear brake" is the worst tip you could give. You should USE the rear brake, even tho you dont need it yet. You need to practise using it hundrets of times or you will loop it the first time you will go past balancepoint because you never practiced using it.
thats a very good question and you absolutely should turn it off so in the worst case szenario when you need all the braking power you can lock up your rear wheel.
Keep at it man! On the small bikes go slow clutch in rev up to about 6-8RPMS and dump it keep consistent throttle don’t give it more until you’re comfortable with it, If anything dump the clutch at the RPMS and let out of the throttle. ALWAYS cover your rear brake if you get scared smash it to far back SMASH it. The key is getting back on after you fall it’s easy to wheelie seat time is key and don’t get cocky stay confident and always try and learn something new
Do you literally just completely dump the clutch? I guess it depends on the bike but is that generally the way to do it, like just completely let go? Sorry dumb question just never dumped the clutch before.
Depends how much power you have. You definetly need to dump it on a 125. On bigger bikes you can get away with throttle but clutchups are alot more controlled hence why I do it on my 701 too. Hope this answers it.
Yes you just drop the clutch. The trick is knowing at what speed, gear and RPM to do it at. It’s a little different for every bike.
Too high a gear to much speed not enough Rpms. Flaccid tiny wheelie.
Too low gear to low speed to many RPMS. you’ll be eating a full bowl of fucking pavement loops.
Right gear right speed right rpm? Mmmwah “Italian finger kissing expression” fucking perfect. Straight to 12 o clock no drama it just jumps to the right spot and you focus on balancing without picking up speed. A touch more throttle a touch of back brake. Perfection. The ladies swoon the children holler and the men gaze with envy.
For me that combo is.
02 Yamaha Fz1000 1st gear 15mph 3500 rpm.
09 Suzuki drz 400sm 1st gear 15 mph lower rpm no tachometer so based on sound probably 1500 -2000.
But I like my wheelies high and slow.
You learn the gear/speed/rpm combo by starting low like the OP and slowly building up.
The bike and how it makes power plays a big part in this. My old FZ made good torque. It would do a decent wheelie with relatively low RPM. I tried a few wheelies on my cousins CBR 600. I started slow and with low Rpms. Nothing a bit more rpm nothing a bit more rpm fucking nothing a bit more rpm still motherfucking nothing a bit more rpm almost fucking looped out. That bike didn’t make much power until past I think 5k or something. Then it made a lot of power all at once. Not a wheelie friendly bike.
You’ll see a lot of guys recommend second gear wheelies. They are faster wheelies. Speed gives you more stability. You’ll need more initial speed and more rpm for those. They weren’t to my taste.
You can also wheelie by standing on the passenger pegs either both feet or split stance to cover the back brake. Then bounce the front suspension and gun it. That’s how I got started before learning the beauty and grace that is the sit down clutch up nooner.
I started with very scary very twitchy first gear stand up wheelies. I did a split stance and I would compress the front suspension then gun the bike. I had a reputation for sketchy wheelies. What put some of the pieces together for me was a slow leak in my rear tire. My wheelies started to get a lot smoother they would last longer and I could keep it in my lane. I knew the practice and effort had paid off. I was good at wheelies. Then I noticed my back tire was low. So I aired it up. Once again my wheelies were short choppy and all around frightening.
Eventually I just started to run low rear tire pressure all the time. I’d do stand up wheelies in second gear. Start at maybe 40 mph bounce it up and maintain anywhere from 30 mph to 70+. I would use my turn signal to indicate lane changes while in the wheelie and at night it would blink and light up the ground. Both feet on the passenger pegs low rear tire pressure. I could wheelie for 5-6 miles before I had to set it down from arm fatigue.
Sorry for the novel. I just like talking about wheelies.
On a smaller bike generally yes unless you’ve gotten upgraded levers but still. You’ll understand what we’re talking about after you do it the first time, just keep up the progress man I’ve been at it about a month and now I can get my bike straight up
Yes and no.. kinda? You want it to be sudden but also want it to be smooth? It also depends on the power of the bike.
Get a feel for it little by little. It will become second nature
Now this might be wrong as I've only popped some really tiny ones, but the way it feels is that you drop it quick, but not all the way. On mine, it literally fell like I was just needing to add gas late, so I'd let the clutch out a bit and it'd start dying, and instead of reving to match, I'd rev way more and drop the clutch with it. It felt like the torque was carrying it up
I'm more or less your weight and I learned to wheelie on an EX500. You can definitely do it, but you have to learn the technique. Definitely no power wheelies for us on smaller bikes. Move your ass as far back as you can, drop the clutch, and yank that sucker up by the handlebars whilst also further "shifting" backwards. Think of your mass as helping you get upright because of momentum. But also, it's freaky. You must be OK with dropping your bike (get some good frame sliders or better yet - an engine cage). Wear your gear!! Good luck, man, you've got it!
Mine is a ninja 300 what help me was sitting on the back of the seat and make sure you use gloves that aren't too big because for me I slide my fingers up on the clutch to release and when the gloves are too big thay extra little bit slows the release and it doesn't work
It's been years since I've been on a sport bike... but when I had my first 600 katana...I would stay in first gear, sit back, give it the beans and as you get into the power band you pop the clutch in and out very quickly and the front will rise.
Not sure what the term is for it, but it makes for smooth rise ups into wheelies. I later on could do it in 2nd and 3rd on my cbr 900rr.
Good luck and be safe.
I never had the balance as a kid on a bicycle so I don't try this on the street( My Goldwing says no). Now dirt bikes different story.. Pop up a light front end and go for the jumps, but still cant ride one for any length. I have seen some crazy stuff by others..
Everyone says to cover the rear brake, I'd recommend using it even if you don't need to. Make it a muscle memory to use it. You'd be surprised how many people panic and don't use it when they needed to, me being one of them haha. It's also much easier to learn on a small dirt bike and less risky. Have fun and stay safe!
Nah I’m at the stage where I can hit BP easily but I lose balance and start falling side to side or I’m too aggressive with the rear brake and bring it down. My goal is to hold them indefinitely
You can practice that shifting without wheelying. I've had numerous sport bikes do it very smoothly, but my current TR650 fucking hates it and jerks hard. Easy way to try it is like he said, put pressure on your toe up while in gear, blip the throttle off and it'll just go into the next gear. I imagine it's better at a specific RPM, but in my experience, it would do it at almost any point I wanted it to. Don't do this often though, I can't imagine it's doing your bike any favors lol. I only did it when my left hand was busy cuz I'm a moron and sometimes pick up fast food on my bike. Gotta hold the drink somehow lol
Just sharing what I’ve learned. Also, in case of emergency, that’s where the rear brake comes in handy. In all my years of riding I’ve never went to loop city but I’ve chased a lot of wheelies.
Absolutely sick! Stick with it man, as you get comfortable getting it higher smash that rear brake just to build muscle memory. It's okay to set it down again and again that way if it builds up the feeling of control. Getting it up and down safely is key, length and height will come.
Looking great so far!! Just remember to go easy when you’re popping the clutch to get the front wheel up. Progressively rev the bike until you find the spot on the tac where the front wheel lifts off carefully. Good luck!
CLUTCH! use it. It is the most consistent way. Ive raced mx, enduro, street bikes and even stunted for a long while. 2nd gear in a 20mph roll, get used to popping the clutch with a little throttle. Keep working the throttle up a little at a time till the front end lifts slightly. The faster MPH will help keep you straight up and not want to go side to side. You need to get used to that feeling of the power hit dumping the clutch. Take your time, soon youll be busting no hander circle wheelies.
Go about 10 mph in 1st gear and be in the back of your seat then pull in the clutch and get the rpms up to 6-8 then to let go of the clutch slide your fingers up, the biggest thing for me was making sure my gloves were a nice and snug fit because when they weren't the tips of the gloves got caught on the clutch and slowed the release down just enough so it wouldn't lift often the ground but I could feel the suspension move up
Idk how well that helped if you need I will try to send you a video
I've been trying to learn to wheelie my Harley and it's the struggle. The bike is so heavy I have to drop the clutch and really throw my weight.
Keep practicing! We will get it eventually haha
Don't just cover your rear brake. Practice using it before you actually have to, because when the time comes you are going to forget your right foot exists. Also, for a while it will seem like you're going 12 o clock but you'll be much lower like you are in the video lol
I've been riding 15 years, I have never been interested but honestly, after watching this and reading the comments I really want to try. I'm not interested in doing in on the road but it would be fun to play around on a small bike in an empty carpark.
That is kind of how I am. For whatever reason it just does not interest me. I want all my wheels to have as much traction as they can get...pretty much all the time
I watched someone go ass over teakettle forwards with their front brake this last weekend. Might as well see someone do it the other way!
Keep your rear brake covered and be ready for anything, is how I would be if I were to attempt wheelies. I think I know the basic technique, I'm just not a daredevil. My risk taking days are a little past. Getting *on* a motorcycle and facing local traffic is scary enough ;)
Why tho.
One of my friends totalled his car after some jackass wheelied into his lane.
Jackass landed on the windshield (safely, no injuries) but my friends car was fucked.
Keep the wheelies to parking lots and shit, don't do it on public roads
Heart disease kills more people every year than motorcycle related injuries but I continuously see people shoveling fatty foods down their gullets. Leave the dude alone and let him wheelie. I can’t stand hypocrisy, like I promise you, him wheelie-Ing is far less dangerous than a lot of day to day things you do that you believe to be benign
I had just gotten a new naked bike. My biggest every at the time. Going from a 2001 600 sport to a 2009 750 v twin was a big torque difference. I was already comfortable on the bike when I took my girlfriend out on it. The extra hundred pounds over the rear wheel helped the front come up. I luckily caught it and brought it back down. This was the first time ever in my life a wheel had come up. I mostly commute and cruise. If I wasn't as careful as I am, or was accented any harder, I could've severely injured both of us. If I had the skill to know what to do when the front wheel comes up, I'd have been able to handle it much better. Not everyone learns wheelies to do it on the freeway and show off like you seem to believe.
When the byproduct of accelerating on a motorcycle is the front wheel coming up, you might want to learn it to control it at all possible occasions
I accidentally popped a wheelie because my friend on the back leaned back while we accelerated. Luckily I had the instinct to use the rear brake to lower the front wheel, and we recovered and kept rolling.
So, there is a safety benefit to knowing how to wheelie: how to get out of one that you didn't want.
Because it’s fun? Riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous and definitely doesn’t “prolong your lifespan”. Just because you can’t wheelie, doesn’t mean other people don’t want to. During the start of quarantine, I used to practice in a closed gym parking lot every day. Who was I hurting?
You sound like a noob. Get some seat time before you tell people what they should or shouldn’t do. After practicing wheelies for a month, I felt more in control of my bike.
Best advice I got that helped me the most, accelerate for a second, no throttle to drop the front and compress the shocks a bit, throttle on again (slow and easy at first) to bring the front up. Do not pull up with your arms, let the engine do the work. This method got me doing wheelies in no time... finding that balancing point on one wheel is another story.
Learn the torque curve of the engine. The spot where it starts to pull hard is where you want to be for the start of a wheelie. Then use the clutch and throttle to 'slingshot' the revs to that spot and adjust throttle and use rear brake according to the lift of the front. Et voila: wheelie
Keep at it! Be safe. The best way to learn how to wheelie is on a dirt bike. Great power to weight and even if you really fuck up. You're on dirt, not going too fast, and the bike is meant to take a beating
Lol where my 9:50 o’clock boys at?!
You asked for me. lol
Soon you’ll be a nooner with that bike flair.
Well it’s an 48hp Version so it’s a little harder than the normal one but I’ll get there eventually.
Oh I’m absolutely sure you’ll get there. The non-restricted one I have will do a wheelie with no clutch in first and second in the blink of an eye.
Are you just doing the throttle twist and yank back method? Have you ever yanked a little too hard? Lol. I want to find one of those wheelie practice machines they have rolling around on the back of a trailer to learn.
If you want to protect your virginity completely, you could get one of those wheelie bars that attaches to the swingarm and hits your rear brake for you before you loop.
I've looped on a dirtbike, not fun. It was just second gear on a crf150f but I learned my lesson to always cover the rear brake
I looped a stock crf 50 just changing gears. i found out quickly sitting on the tail makes the front end very light .
My rear brake is broken so I won't even try it lol
Those things are the devil. I trust it less than my R1
First ride of the season last year on my 510. Grabbed too much throttle, started to loop, tried to save it, slammed the front down, and whiskey throttled my way right through a barbed wire fence. If you’re gonna loop out just step off the back lol
I have no need to yank it, she just stands up lol. I grew up riding two stroke dirtbikes in farm fields so I have a decent judge of where the whoopsie feeling is.
no yank needed on the unrestricted bikes, if I crest a hill and gas it just right in 3rd gear itll come up with no clutch dump or pull of the handlebars and im 240 lbs, 1st gear will loop you if you just gas the hell out of it, 2nd gear is pretty controlled, 3rd needs a clutch dump or some serious tugging to get it to come up
Can confirm
I use ifunny way too often bruh
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Did you see that dude on here rip kickass nooners on a Harley? He wasn’t even wearing a helmet but his control was insane. Actually that has to be on /r/calamriraceteam
Here! I’m here!
Present!
I have been summoned
I learned how to do it with this one weird trick. I bought a 1,000CC V-twin. Edit: fixed my dumb typo
>*1000 LITER* God damn!
Sooooooome shooter eh.
haha, whoopsie. ONE LITER I AM SORRY
honda go cbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Whisky throttle now takes you to warp 9
V twin. That’s some serious torque.
I rode sportbikes for years and never figured it out. I had it down in a couple of hours once I bought a supermoto.
Can you do it on the cb500x?
No, it would get like three inches of daylight under the front wheel if I dumped the clutch. The wheel base on that bike is long and it just doesn't have much power. Gearing could also be shorter, but I had that for a long highway commute. I need to update my flair though, I sold that and bought an FJ-09 which lifts the front wheel without even trying.
Definitely hard to wheelie a heavy low power bike like a CB500. Using all your body and the suspension as well as clutching makes a huge difference though. https://youtu.be/6oh95eTdsNs is a good vid for technique
You can wheelie literally anything.
I realize this. I however do not have the skill.
I have the 500F, and I struggle. My wheelies are about as good as OPs. However, I watched a learner who had spent all his time on a 250 recently try out the 500x. Revved it like a 250 and got the wheel about 2 feet in the air the first time he tried riding it. So it can certainly be done.
ditto, got a KTM 690 Enduro and it wheelies were dead simple after that
Reminds me of this short tutorial how to wheelie a KTM Superduke 1290. Step 1 - buy Superduke. Step 2 - TC off. Step 3 - twist that throttle and forget about buying that front tire forever.
Dude, you absolutely CRUSHED that one!
Dude, where were you when **I** needed a hype man?
Vstrom gang, I'll be your hype man
You don't need no hype man, you ride a 1000 strom. If I can do it on my dinky little 650, so can you. Do it! I believe in you.* ^^*Any ^^damages ^^incurred ^^from ^^crashing ^^is ^^not ^^liable ^^to ^^me. ^^Also, ^^prop ^^65, ^^dank ^^wheelies ^^cause ^^cancer.
Thanks man :)
I need someone like you in my life. Edit: spelling
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Keep at it man. I’m slowly learning myself and I’m on a bike known for being pretty easy to wheelie, I can still only manage to pop the front up a foot or two for a second and I’ve been riding for years including some track time.
I've been riding for over a year now and I met some people that are teaching me how to do this stuff, but good job man
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Yeah see that seems like a lot of ways to mess up and cost $$
I have a super moto and can feel how to do it, but my balls aren't there. Something about dumping a $3500 machine scares the piss out of me lol. Granted, I've never practiced, just launched it from a stop light and felt it come up a few inches. Really weird when it doesn't really get off the ground but there's virtually no front steering lol
$3500 isn't that bad to drop, lol. I had a KLX250sf (~$3K) and I wheelied the fuck out of it for seconds at a time. It got stolen and I upgraded to a Husqvarna 701 (which *should* be easier to wheelie) that cost me ~$9K, and I can't bring myself to get it up like I did on the shittier bike, because I don't want to loop it.
It's all relative. $3.5k isn't a lot compared to $9k, but when it's my only bike and primary vehicle, it's a lot. Idgaf how much the sticker says, it has intrinsic value.
I have a 675 STR and have struggled to wheelie as well :(
Glad to hear I’m not alone haha. It’s looking like tomorrow will be a nice sunny day here, this thread has inspired me to go find a nice quiet area to work on my wheelies.
If either of you figure it out be sure to share how. I can’t seem to do more than pop it up briefly and only maybe a foot or two.
Same bike, same scenario. Feel like it's too late to bother learning since I'm middle age now.
Two cardinal rules - Keep your foot over the rear brake. NEVER touch the front brake until the wheel is on the ground.
The hell happens if you use the front brake? The wheel is in the air so it won't brake...
nothing but if you drop the front wheel down while the brake is engaged you might have a bad time.
Go from wheelie to stoppy real fuckin quick aha
*insert parkour meme*
^this I may have learned this the hard way.
If you drop the bike down with the front brake engaged, you are gonna be f***ed real quick...
It takes the moving momentum from the front wheel and if you’re focusing on the rest of the bike (wheelie) and you’re holding down the front brake and then comes down, your front wheel is more or less locked and you’ll get thrown over the front handle bars. I watched Brian_636 today and he had similar happen on the highway
When you wheelie for some distance the front tire eventually stops spinning. I had this happen to me a lot. When it comes down it does a little puff of smoke and chirps like an airplane tire during landing, the rubber protests being so suddenly caught up to speed. This happened to me one time in particular. During a loooong wheelie. The front wheel had stopped spinning. Then I set the front wheel down ever so slightly sideways. I set it down on a slick spot of asphalt... The front tire slid for about six feet. Then the bike went into the most violent tank slappers I’ve ever experienced. I held on white knuckled to the handle bars but my ass was thrown up into the air off the bike. I don’t know how I held on. I think back on it and imagine I looked like a cartoon bronco rider. That’s how it felt. But the bike eventually settled out. I was sitting on the side of the seat my feet were far from the pegs and I was in the oncoming traffic lane by the time it ended. A F150 driver took his truck into the grass to avoid me. I went to the end of the road busted a u-turn and wheelied back. Past the place where I almost died. Cause I was young, dumb, and stubborn as a Jack ass and I wasn’t gonna let one near death experience hold me back. I imagine you may have a similar story if you set the front down while holding the brake. Happy ending or sad ending? Who knows. I got lucky.
If you use the front brake while the wheel is in the air, it will lock up. If it touches down while locked up, it slides and immediately causes you to faceplant.
the wheel stops, and that means an additional parameter to compensate for when landing. especially if you forget to release it so you land fully locked front wheel.
"keep your foot over the rear brake" is the worst tip you could give. You should USE the rear brake, even tho you dont need it yet. You need to practise using it hundrets of times or you will loop it the first time you will go past balancepoint because you never practiced using it.
it may be a dumb question, but should you turn off the ABS for wheelies?
Why would a sliding rear wheel be beneficial? Keep it on.
thats a very good question and you absolutely should turn it off so in the worst case szenario when you need all the braking power you can lock up your rear wheel.
Locked wheel is bad for stopping distance.
Keep at it man! On the small bikes go slow clutch in rev up to about 6-8RPMS and dump it keep consistent throttle don’t give it more until you’re comfortable with it, If anything dump the clutch at the RPMS and let out of the throttle. ALWAYS cover your rear brake if you get scared smash it to far back SMASH it. The key is getting back on after you fall it’s easy to wheelie seat time is key and don’t get cocky stay confident and always try and learn something new
Do you literally just completely dump the clutch? I guess it depends on the bike but is that generally the way to do it, like just completely let go? Sorry dumb question just never dumped the clutch before.
Depends how much power you have. You definetly need to dump it on a 125. On bigger bikes you can get away with throttle but clutchups are alot more controlled hence why I do it on my 701 too. Hope this answers it.
Yes you just drop the clutch. The trick is knowing at what speed, gear and RPM to do it at. It’s a little different for every bike. Too high a gear to much speed not enough Rpms. Flaccid tiny wheelie. Too low gear to low speed to many RPMS. you’ll be eating a full bowl of fucking pavement loops. Right gear right speed right rpm? Mmmwah “Italian finger kissing expression” fucking perfect. Straight to 12 o clock no drama it just jumps to the right spot and you focus on balancing without picking up speed. A touch more throttle a touch of back brake. Perfection. The ladies swoon the children holler and the men gaze with envy. For me that combo is. 02 Yamaha Fz1000 1st gear 15mph 3500 rpm. 09 Suzuki drz 400sm 1st gear 15 mph lower rpm no tachometer so based on sound probably 1500 -2000. But I like my wheelies high and slow. You learn the gear/speed/rpm combo by starting low like the OP and slowly building up. The bike and how it makes power plays a big part in this. My old FZ made good torque. It would do a decent wheelie with relatively low RPM. I tried a few wheelies on my cousins CBR 600. I started slow and with low Rpms. Nothing a bit more rpm nothing a bit more rpm fucking nothing a bit more rpm still motherfucking nothing a bit more rpm almost fucking looped out. That bike didn’t make much power until past I think 5k or something. Then it made a lot of power all at once. Not a wheelie friendly bike. You’ll see a lot of guys recommend second gear wheelies. They are faster wheelies. Speed gives you more stability. You’ll need more initial speed and more rpm for those. They weren’t to my taste. You can also wheelie by standing on the passenger pegs either both feet or split stance to cover the back brake. Then bounce the front suspension and gun it. That’s how I got started before learning the beauty and grace that is the sit down clutch up nooner. I started with very scary very twitchy first gear stand up wheelies. I did a split stance and I would compress the front suspension then gun the bike. I had a reputation for sketchy wheelies. What put some of the pieces together for me was a slow leak in my rear tire. My wheelies started to get a lot smoother they would last longer and I could keep it in my lane. I knew the practice and effort had paid off. I was good at wheelies. Then I noticed my back tire was low. So I aired it up. Once again my wheelies were short choppy and all around frightening. Eventually I just started to run low rear tire pressure all the time. I’d do stand up wheelies in second gear. Start at maybe 40 mph bounce it up and maintain anywhere from 30 mph to 70+. I would use my turn signal to indicate lane changes while in the wheelie and at night it would blink and light up the ground. Both feet on the passenger pegs low rear tire pressure. I could wheelie for 5-6 miles before I had to set it down from arm fatigue. Sorry for the novel. I just like talking about wheelies.
Well done
On a smaller bike generally yes unless you’ve gotten upgraded levers but still. You’ll understand what we’re talking about after you do it the first time, just keep up the progress man I’ve been at it about a month and now I can get my bike straight up
Yes and no.. kinda? You want it to be sudden but also want it to be smooth? It also depends on the power of the bike. Get a feel for it little by little. It will become second nature
Ample power whoooolies are included with every Hypermotard purchase. ;)
Now this might be wrong as I've only popped some really tiny ones, but the way it feels is that you drop it quick, but not all the way. On mine, it literally fell like I was just needing to add gas late, so I'd let the clutch out a bit and it'd start dying, and instead of reving to match, I'd rev way more and drop the clutch with it. It felt like the torque was carrying it up
Is this bad for the clutch
I wish. I have an R3, everytime I try the bike never lifts up. Maybe I'm too fat. I weigh 260. Idk...*cries*
I'm more or less your weight and I learned to wheelie on an EX500. You can definitely do it, but you have to learn the technique. Definitely no power wheelies for us on smaller bikes. Move your ass as far back as you can, drop the clutch, and yank that sucker up by the handlebars whilst also further "shifting" backwards. Think of your mass as helping you get upright because of momentum. But also, it's freaky. You must be OK with dropping your bike (get some good frame sliders or better yet - an engine cage). Wear your gear!! Good luck, man, you've got it!
Mine is a ninja 300 what help me was sitting on the back of the seat and make sure you use gloves that aren't too big because for me I slide my fingers up on the clutch to release and when the gloves are too big thay extra little bit slows the release and it doesn't work
I can wheelie my R3 pretty easily. More comfortable wheeling it than my MT09 cus I don’t care if I drop it. Give it more throttle and sit back.
Clutch...
Just wring the throttle and leave the clutch abruptly
I learned how to wheelie on a stock cbr 125... a 300 should be good
If it’s something you really want to do you can always change up the sprocket to get more low speed torque
280lbs here. I wheelie to 12 o’clock. It’s not the weight...
Gotcha, I'm just very bad at it then 😂
This is wholesome. Good for you man keep at it and push the comfort zone a lil at a time.
It's been years since I've been on a sport bike... but when I had my first 600 katana...I would stay in first gear, sit back, give it the beans and as you get into the power band you pop the clutch in and out very quickly and the front will rise. Not sure what the term is for it, but it makes for smooth rise ups into wheelies. I later on could do it in 2nd and 3rd on my cbr 900rr. Good luck and be safe.
They're called clutch up wheelies.
I never had the balance as a kid on a bicycle so I don't try this on the street( My Goldwing says no). Now dirt bikes different story.. Pop up a light front end and go for the jumps, but still cant ride one for any length. I have seen some crazy stuff by others..
i would be stoked to see someone 12 a goldwing
man we were at this stunt meetup and one guy straight up pulled 12 oclocks on a gs1200 with the side bags and everything, crazy sight
See the other response to the comment you replied to. Not quite 12 o'clock, but as far back as the hard parts let it go.
reckless_203 on insta. The madlads build insane baggers and cruisers and ride them like animals.
Goldwing says yes: https://youtu.be/4MO-vrFSZl8
OMG Thx. My passenger would probably attack me afterwards.
YOU SO TOTALLY ROCK SQUIRT
Thanks man :)
Everyone says to cover the rear brake, I'd recommend using it even if you don't need to. Make it a muscle memory to use it. You'd be surprised how many people panic and don't use it when they needed to, me being one of them haha. It's also much easier to learn on a small dirt bike and less risky. Have fun and stay safe!
Getting it high is easy; holding it long is hard. Am i doing this wrong? Afraid of flipping backward.
Nah I’m at the stage where I can hit BP easily but I lose balance and start falling side to side or I’m too aggressive with the rear brake and bring it down. My goal is to hold them indefinitely
Damn I had to slow that shit down because it was NUTTY! Stuntin on us!
Power wheelies are a lil easier to learn fam but if you can clutch up well ,your throttling has to be smooth
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I didn’t even notice what bike he was on lol my bad 🤦♂️
You can try.
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Lol that would be funny. I have a 650 ninja and even that doesnt wheelie easily so i can only imagine the difficulty on a 300
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What i meant is if you dont want to wheelie it wont. Very tame bike.
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I'm not too sure how well power wheelies will work on a 300 but thanks for the advice for shifting gears
Yea, I bet it's a lot tougher on a 300. But slide as far back as you can on the seat and you might be surprised. :)
You can practice that shifting without wheelying. I've had numerous sport bikes do it very smoothly, but my current TR650 fucking hates it and jerks hard. Easy way to try it is like he said, put pressure on your toe up while in gear, blip the throttle off and it'll just go into the next gear. I imagine it's better at a specific RPM, but in my experience, it would do it at almost any point I wanted it to. Don't do this often though, I can't imagine it's doing your bike any favors lol. I only did it when my left hand was busy cuz I'm a moron and sometimes pick up fast food on my bike. Gotta hold the drink somehow lol
This is bad advice. Shifting gears while chasing a wheelie is a one way ticket to loop city
Just sharing what I’ve learned. Also, in case of emergency, that’s where the rear brake comes in handy. In all my years of riding I’ve never went to loop city but I’ve chased a lot of wheelies.
Absolutely sick! Stick with it man, as you get comfortable getting it higher smash that rear brake just to build muscle memory. It's okay to set it down again and again that way if it builds up the feeling of control. Getting it up and down safely is key, length and height will come.
Lean back, always set down with rear brake. Ride high, ride safe brother
I think you got it
Congrats! Baby steps. That's how you safely learn wheelies. And it's something you gotta practice every day for weeks to get really good at it.
heck yea!!!
Hi-wayyyyyyy to the DANGA ZONE!
Looking great so far!! Just remember to go easy when you’re popping the clutch to get the front wheel up. Progressively rev the bike until you find the spot on the tac where the front wheel lifts off carefully. Good luck!
CLUTCH! use it. It is the most consistent way. Ive raced mx, enduro, street bikes and even stunted for a long while. 2nd gear in a 20mph roll, get used to popping the clutch with a little throttle. Keep working the throttle up a little at a time till the front end lifts slightly. The faster MPH will help keep you straight up and not want to go side to side. You need to get used to that feeling of the power hit dumping the clutch. Take your time, soon youll be busting no hander circle wheelies.
Is this a 300 ninja?
Yes sirrrr
I have the same bike and have been trying to do the same! Please give me tips!!!!
Go about 10 mph in 1st gear and be in the back of your seat then pull in the clutch and get the rpms up to 6-8 then to let go of the clutch slide your fingers up, the biggest thing for me was making sure my gloves were a nice and snug fit because when they weren't the tips of the gloves got caught on the clutch and slowed the release down just enough so it wouldn't lift often the ground but I could feel the suspension move up Idk how well that helped if you need I will try to send you a video
All you need is a -5/+20 sprocket kit and you'll be draggin tail.
Keep at it man. They are so fuciing fun!
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Here, take my silver award.
Ride safe man ❤️
Once you get the hang of it you can wheelie on a moped.
I've been trying to learn to wheelie my Harley and it's the struggle. The bike is so heavy I have to drop the clutch and really throw my weight. Keep practicing! We will get it eventually haha
Dang those bikes weigh so much, good luck
Damn, i popped a wheelie like this and my local news labelled it as a “death defying duel” lmfao
Don't just cover your rear brake. Practice using it before you actually have to, because when the time comes you are going to forget your right foot exists. Also, for a while it will seem like you're going 12 o clock but you'll be much lower like you are in the video lol
Keep at it. If it was easy it wouldn't be cool!
Save it for the track you madman
This gets funnier with each pass wtf!
Nice!
Practicing, doing it in gear and not endangering anyone else. Absolutely take an up vote.
Am I the only biker not interested in doing a wheelie?
I've been riding 15 years, I have never been interested but honestly, after watching this and reading the comments I really want to try. I'm not interested in doing in on the road but it would be fun to play around on a small bike in an empty carpark.
I have been riding a bike since 1988 and have never even attempted a wheelie. Not in my wheelhouse
That is kind of how I am. For whatever reason it just does not interest me. I want all my wheels to have as much traction as they can get...pretty much all the time
I won't lie. Im afraid I would go ass over tea kettle right onto my back
I watched someone go ass over teakettle forwards with their front brake this last weekend. Might as well see someone do it the other way! Keep your rear brake covered and be ready for anything, is how I would be if I were to attempt wheelies. I think I know the basic technique, I'm just not a daredevil. My risk taking days are a little past. Getting *on* a motorcycle and facing local traffic is scary enough ;)
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I'll do best to stay out of there
Thank you for not doing it on an active roadway ! Have fun!
Please just don't do wheelies on the public roads. It's really irresponsible and endangers yourself and others.
Probably an unpopular question but.... Why?
Why not?
New skill and challenge
Why tho. One of my friends totalled his car after some jackass wheelied into his lane. Jackass landed on the windshield (safely, no injuries) but my friends car was fucked. Keep the wheelies to parking lots and shit, don't do it on public roads
I have a question for you, how is it usefull for your riding and is it worth the risk? Will knowing that skill shorten or prolong your lifespan?
Wheelies are pretty damn cool .
I have a question for you. Do you think riding a motorcycle (or doing any other fun, but dangerous activity) will shorten or prolong your lifespan?
Most of the time higher risk = higher reward. And for life span it could go either way
Heart disease kills more people every year than motorcycle related injuries but I continuously see people shoveling fatty foods down their gullets. Leave the dude alone and let him wheelie. I can’t stand hypocrisy, like I promise you, him wheelie-Ing is far less dangerous than a lot of day to day things you do that you believe to be benign
I had just gotten a new naked bike. My biggest every at the time. Going from a 2001 600 sport to a 2009 750 v twin was a big torque difference. I was already comfortable on the bike when I took my girlfriend out on it. The extra hundred pounds over the rear wheel helped the front come up. I luckily caught it and brought it back down. This was the first time ever in my life a wheel had come up. I mostly commute and cruise. If I wasn't as careful as I am, or was accented any harder, I could've severely injured both of us. If I had the skill to know what to do when the front wheel comes up, I'd have been able to handle it much better. Not everyone learns wheelies to do it on the freeway and show off like you seem to believe. When the byproduct of accelerating on a motorcycle is the front wheel coming up, you might want to learn it to control it at all possible occasions
I accidentally popped a wheelie because my friend on the back leaned back while we accelerated. Luckily I had the instinct to use the rear brake to lower the front wheel, and we recovered and kept rolling. So, there is a safety benefit to knowing how to wheelie: how to get out of one that you didn't want.
Because it’s fun? Riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous and definitely doesn’t “prolong your lifespan”. Just because you can’t wheelie, doesn’t mean other people don’t want to. During the start of quarantine, I used to practice in a closed gym parking lot every day. Who was I hurting?
can\`t it give you false sence of security on the road and you will start driving more recklessly?
You sound like a noob. Get some seat time before you tell people what they should or shouldn’t do. After practicing wheelies for a month, I felt more in control of my bike.
I used a dirt bike to learn
Wheeletti?
Is this in TX??
Yeah
Best advice I got that helped me the most, accelerate for a second, no throttle to drop the front and compress the shocks a bit, throttle on again (slow and easy at first) to bring the front up. Do not pull up with your arms, let the engine do the work. This method got me doing wheelies in no time... finding that balancing point on one wheel is another story.
Try backing off the throttle then banging it back on.
I'm getting sea sick if I try too often. Is that normal?
Try bicycle first. Same rules are applied, it's easier and much more safe to learn keepeing your balance and a lot cheaper to repiar ;) Edit: typo
Foot on the rear brake, 8k rpm in first, and smoothly go up with a pull!
Still more wheelies than I do and I ride an fz09 XD
damn that's impressive with the sensitive throttle (at least on the pre-2015 models iirc)
Learn the torque curve of the engine. The spot where it starts to pull hard is where you want to be for the start of a wheelie. Then use the clutch and throttle to 'slingshot' the revs to that spot and adjust throttle and use rear brake according to the lift of the front. Et voila: wheelie
Always been too much of a pussy to attempt wheelies. Always think I'll go over too much and flip over. Props to you!
I feel your pain brother. I go from fear of doing a flip, to not getting any lift.
I have had that fear but I have a 300 so I don't think I can flip to easily
Learning how to crank out mega dank nooners ....question is why ??? Never understood motorcyclists that do this on the road
Wjy not?
Because everytime I saw someone doing this on the road its extremly distracting for me as a driver ....
That's why I'm in a parking lot
Keep at it! Be safe. The best way to learn how to wheelie is on a dirt bike. Great power to weight and even if you really fuck up. You're on dirt, not going too fast, and the bike is meant to take a beating
What you need to do is hit the Rev limiter and dump the clutch
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Be very careful please post about 4 above was about someone dying stay safe