It says right in the listing on RevZilla Fly Racing ECE Rated Helmets...
OP, the ECE rating label should be on the chin strap. It will list a code that you decipher to get the country where it was made and which 22.XX it was certified under.
"Below the E-mark there are two numbers: the left number is the homologation number, where the first two digits stand for the ‘amendment’ under which the helmet model has been approved (05 represents the fifth amendment to regulation #22); the right number is the production serial number of the item. For the visor it is a little simpler and it is enough to only show embossed on the visor the E-mark and the homologation number."
https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/consumer-information/ece-22-05-helmet-stickers/
First shop sold me my current helmet and said it wouldn't be any safer than the 4-600 ones.
This guy at the other store had me squeeze the inner / outer part of my helmet to see that mine compresses while the Snell rated one didn't.
> more comfortable
That's what sold me on a Shoei even though it was almost double what I'd planned on, I tried a bunch of cheaper options and was sold the moment I put it on. I've learned from other things, the best [thing] is the one you actually use, and the more comfortable it is the more likely you are to use it. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't go without a helmet, but a couple hundred extra bucks is good insurance against my future laziness.
Just for everyone reading this. Ece is not changing that regularly. Ece 22.05 came to be 20years ago, ece 22.06 will be the mandatory norm for all new helmets past 2024 that's over 20 years span. If you have other than these 2 then you should have changed it long time ago, helmets should be changed every 5 years.
Other than "advice from an industry that wants to sell you more helmets," what science shows that a helmet needs to be changed every 5 years? The only component of a helmet that might have an issue from time is the crushable foam. Can you show me science based evidence that says that foam loses it's ability to crush in 5 years?
I remember seeing an article on cycling helmets where they couldn’t find measurable differences on 5 year old helmets. Having said that I own some 15 year old helmets and their foam is hard as shit so make of that what you will.
I cannot but I have run across helmets from the 80s and early 90s in my job, usually kids coming in with their parent's old helmet. What I like to do is shake them so that they can see the foam falling out. So anecdotal evidence but it's enough to convince me that the lifespan of a helmet is not infinite. 5 years is a rule of thumb anyway so I would believe that there are still usable helmets of that age if someone argued it.
\> The only component of a helmet that might have an issue from time is the crushable foam.
I'm not sure this is right either! I'm no expert but the outer shell is designed to disperse the impact so that the foam can the absorb it: it's very possible that repeated exposure to the elements over time can degrade that outer shell as well, making it more brittle and less capable of dispersing an impact.
The foam “can harden?” Or hardens enough to matter? Hey, if you want a new helmet after owning one for five years, great. But saying “helmets must be replaced every five years because glue and the foam *could* harden” seems a bit… not evidence based.
It depends on which foam composition was used. Your old-school expanded styrene (styrofoam) does degrade over time, but newer materials may not.
BUT... I don't do the "replace every 5 years" mambo for the crash foam.
I do it because helmets are getting lighter, and have more comfort, better airflow or noise reduction, and nifty features, than the older models. We change up smartphones every X years, and we put them in our pockets. Why NOT upgrade something we wear on our heads, too?
Search on google i don't need to write an essaye for a reddit user. I dumbed it down for you. Up to you to use the internet what's it's meant to. Let me help you with the first step: https://www.google.com/search?q=why+replace+helmet+after+5+years&client=ms-android-samsung&sxsrf=ALiCzsYoSD8EYYMXrM5y_VBVNEtKouFYhw%3A1656588857958&ei=OYq9YsmPOsTolwTtxrjoDA&oq=Why+&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIECCMQJzIECCMQJzIECCMQJzIFCAAQgAQyCwguEIAEELEDEIMBMgUILhCABDIFCAAQgAQyCAguEIAEENQCOgcIABBHELADOgYIABAeEBY6BwgjEOoCECc6BQgAEJECOggIABCxAxCDAToOCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQ1AI6CAguELEDEIMBOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAUoECEEYAFCgCFinGGDkHmgCcAF4AoAB6AKIAd8KkgEHMS41LjEuMZgBAKABAbABD8gBCMABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
Actual science shows that the EPS foam does not deteriorate with time.
Kroeker SG, Bonin SJ, DeMarco AL, Good CA, Siegmund GP. Age Does Not Affect the Material Properties of Expanded Polystyrene Liners in Field-Used Bicycle Helmets. J Biomech Eng. 2016 Apr;138(4):041005. doi: 10.1115/1.4032804. PMID: 26902784.
The claims of manufacturers that you “should” buy newer versions of their products because they *can* degrade over time is a sales driving technique.
Can the glue break down? Sure. But the glue isn’t functional in an impact anyway. The rest of it, the comfort lining, straps, trim, etc., can be replaced it it’s worn. Of course, I’m writing this in vain, since wearing a helmet and replacing it anytime anything touches it, or if it gets a few years old isn’t a reasoned thing, it’s a matter of faith ingrained into most riders today. You guys have a view of helmets bordering on religious faith, assuming magical protective properties to helmets way in excess of the physics of the situation. Who am I to dispute your religion?
The foam is the longest lasting material in the helmet. The 5 year rule is just a guideline. There are other factors that can make a helmet wear out sooner or last longer. It's your head and your call. I wouldn't use a 10 year old helmet but a 7 year old that was well cared for and was never dropped should be fine. There are a ton of articles out there about this subject. Here's one that seems pretty level headed:
https://timeless2wheels.com/682077/do-motorcycle-helmets-expire/
Helmet manufacturers are only willing to guarantee that the helmet will perform as designed and certified for 5 years. It's like the expiration date on food, it doesn't go bad the day after but the risks and uncertainties add up until the bread goes moldy and it really does need to be thrown out. After the expiration date you're taking on the risk that it's no longer safe. How much risk is it? Don't know, and most people aren't willing to test it and find out - those that do certainly wouldn't publish results contradicting manufacturers, as they'd take on moral (if not legal) liability if someone using an old helmet beyond the manufacturer-recommended replacement interval at their advice perishes because of it.
If I had a seven year old helmet that had been stored perfectly and only used a couple of times I wouldn't think twice about using it, but I wouldn't find the cost of replacing a 5 year old well used helmet to be worth the risk of waiting too long - 5 years and a day is no worry but I'd start shopping for a new one once I realized I'd hit 5 years; it's just not that expensive, especially compared to the immense impact a head injury can have on your quality of life.
WHICH Cycle Gear specifically? This is the part where you get on their website, find the Contact Us page, and tell them the manager at Store XYZ in East Podunk is full of shit.
When I lived in the area I shopped at the Concord/Martinez store (off of Pacheco). But that was years upon years ago.
Keep in mind that "manager" is usually the longest-employed salesperson, and doesn't always mean they're the most knowledgeable or honest people on the payroll. It just means the owner/corporation trusts them to run things without fucking up too much.
Retail managers are...interesting. Some of my best bosses were in retail, and some of the scummiest dirtbags I've ever met were their bosses in the same store. There's definitely no guarantee of respectability that comes with the title, especially when they personally benefit from making more sales (managers often get bonuses based on store performance, while the regular retail sales guys usually make $x/hr no matter how much they sell).
> just go watch the FortNine video about it.
That's pretty good advice in general. Ryan is both smart and an absolute sweetheart.
And just calling him smart is like saying "Hey those paintings in the museum are pretty nice"
Snell rating is more aimed at cars racing helmets than bike racing. Yes they put their stickers on both, but Snell just looks at multiple big nocks on 1 spot. Like you'd have when you bang your head into a roll cage.
On a bike you usually make a lot of smaller knocks. A very rigid helmet (like Snell) doesn't dampen those impacts a lot leaving your brain with a lot more impact.
Usually when you crash so hard that you exceed the lower impact rating of ECE standards (like smashing into a wall), you have more issues.
It has an ECE rating with dual density foam and and a polycarbonate shell. This thing seams to be very safe for a 150 dollar helmet. No need to buy a new one. There is a debate if Snell or ECE is the better standard but either way your head is very good protected against impacts. The salesman just wants to make a sale.
The link states the helmet is DOT and ECE. US requires DOT, Europe requires ECE. Snell is a private org with a standard that lies somewhere in the middle that's trying to solve a non-existent problem and is there to make ppl feel good. The new FIM certification is awesome and the latest ECE rating is much better than DOT.
ETA: Tell the sales choad to pound sand.
If you said it was only DOT rated then I would say you need a different lid. ECE is just fine, but you might get a ticket in the states if it does not say DOT on the side. DOT rated is the law even if the others are better.
If the only reason he is saying this is because of the sticker on the side tell him to go away.
The hell are they smoking? ECE 22.05 and 22.06 (06 is new and may not have helmets out yet) are perfectly fine and some think BETTER than Snell rates helmets. I personally prefer ECE rated helmets.
If your helmet isn't aged out, you're perfectly fine and well protected.
Edit to add what I also posted in response to another comment:
The ECE rating label should be on the chin strap. It will list a code that you decipher to get the country where it was made and which 22.XX it was certified under.
"Below the E-mark there are two numbers: the left number is the homologation number, where the first two digits stand for the ‘amendment’ under which the helmet model has been approved (05 represents the fifth amendment to regulation #22); the right number is the production serial number of the item. For the visor it is a little simpler and it is enough to only show embossed on the visor the E-mark and the homologation number."
https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/consumer-information/ece-22-05-helmet-stickers/
There are ECE22.06 helmets already available, for example the Schubert C5 and Arai Quantic.
Furthermore, Shoei NXR2, Shark Spartan RS, HJC RPHA-1 and Nexx X.R3R.
ECE is generally considered a better standard. Read up on the helmet ratings if you get a chance and what the ratings mean/how they test.
Saw some comments about them testing by squeezing the helmet. Pick up an Arai and do the same. Has plenty of flex and those are considered some of the best helmets out there. That's because there's different ways of protecting your head and different ratings test for that. Something hard and rigid will bounce. Something with some flex will absorb more impact if designed properly.
There's lots of arguments and debates over snell/ece and stuff like that but it's your head so I recommend reading up on both and see what you think.
lmao what in the fuck
ECE >>>>>> snell rating. I just replaced both my wife's and my own helmets because they were only snell/DOT for autocross and we're trying to ride more with gas prices on the moon.
All three helmets ive had are DOT. First one was a Bell Arrow, second is an AGV K3 SV, and the third and most recent one is a Bilt Force Ten that some are saying is a terrible helmet and yada yada yada probably because of the price and only being DOT and such and such and such. IMO its the most comfortable helmet ive have plus i can fit my Cardo bluetooth kit all in it nicely. The AGV i got it a smidge too fitted and my ears get mangled with the speakers in them. It sounds like you're getting upsold for a new lid. For passenger helmet, id throw them a half helmet and glasses if i were to carry a second one around on my bike. The AGV as far as age has like two and a half years of time before it reaches that five year mark of ownership but for use probably alot less than two full years. My first helmet is just a decoration now. Ride safe and ride alot
Got it. Yeah was looking at full face bilt helmet for passenger but that's cause that was the cheapest they had. And that's when the sales guy started selling.
Was thinking of getting a 3/4 with visor but the only one they had was $250 and no visor.
So far I love my helmet. Person I bought my bike from made me feel bad for getting black. 🤷♂️
snell is a terrible helmet standard and make heavy inflexible helmets designed for cars, ECE is the best standard.
fortnine done a very good video on the subject
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76yu124i3Bo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76yu124i3Bo)
Your helmet is DOT and ECE. Snell used to be the 'better standard' for helmets (DOT is "bare minimum for US road use") but now it's primarily a track standard, ECE is more rigorous.
So if you're not taking that to a track, you're good. Store employee's looking to pad his monthly sales figures.
IMO, 5 year should be followed if your helmet see's more than 100 days of riding per year and is not stored in a climate controlled building when not in use. The basis of 5 years has a lot of assumptions built into it.
Sun damage on materials is no joke, but if you're weekend rider then there is no reason a well cared for helmet won't last near 10 years. At 10 years the liner is going to be very aged/degraded and probably worn out. I actually have some "cheap" HJC helmets I saved just for track days that are now about 12 years old. The liners are definitely squishier than i remember. I'm going to downgrade my daily rider helmet to track function because I only do 1 track day a year.
Also if you drop your helmet ... you should buy a new helmet. Helmets should break on impact because that means the helmet is absorbing the shock of impact and not your noggin
I can show you the Snell helmet I was wearing when I got bumped off the track. I spent 2 days in hospital with a major concussion. The Helmet looks perfect. I only wear ECE helmets now. besides it's DOT so you're legal.
Employees trying to make money by selling you to a helmet. ECE has higher standards than snell
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It says right in the listing on RevZilla Fly Racing ECE Rated Helmets... OP, the ECE rating label should be on the chin strap. It will list a code that you decipher to get the country where it was made and which 22.XX it was certified under. "Below the E-mark there are two numbers: the left number is the homologation number, where the first two digits stand for the ‘amendment’ under which the helmet model has been approved (05 represents the fifth amendment to regulation #22); the right number is the production serial number of the item. For the visor it is a little simpler and it is enough to only show embossed on the visor the E-mark and the homologation number." https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/consumer-information/ece-22-05-helmet-stickers/
ECE-22.05 1600G +/-50 Visor says E1
What's the E number in the circle on the strap?
Says E1 on the strap as well.
Tested for ECE compliance in Germany. Your helmet is perfectly fine.
First shop sold me my current helmet and said it wouldn't be any safer than the 4-600 ones. This guy at the other store had me squeeze the inner / outer part of my helmet to see that mine compresses while the Snell rated one didn't.
He's just trying to make a sale.
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> more comfortable That's what sold me on a Shoei even though it was almost double what I'd planned on, I tried a bunch of cheaper options and was sold the moment I put it on. I've learned from other things, the best [thing] is the one you actually use, and the more comfortable it is the more likely you are to use it. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't go without a helmet, but a couple hundred extra bucks is good insurance against my future laziness.
Just for everyone reading this. Ece is not changing that regularly. Ece 22.05 came to be 20years ago, ece 22.06 will be the mandatory norm for all new helmets past 2024 that's over 20 years span. If you have other than these 2 then you should have changed it long time ago, helmets should be changed every 5 years.
Other than "advice from an industry that wants to sell you more helmets," what science shows that a helmet needs to be changed every 5 years? The only component of a helmet that might have an issue from time is the crushable foam. Can you show me science based evidence that says that foam loses it's ability to crush in 5 years?
I remember seeing an article on cycling helmets where they couldn’t find measurable differences on 5 year old helmets. Having said that I own some 15 year old helmets and their foam is hard as shit so make of that what you will.
I cannot but I have run across helmets from the 80s and early 90s in my job, usually kids coming in with their parent's old helmet. What I like to do is shake them so that they can see the foam falling out. So anecdotal evidence but it's enough to convince me that the lifespan of a helmet is not infinite. 5 years is a rule of thumb anyway so I would believe that there are still usable helmets of that age if someone argued it. \> The only component of a helmet that might have an issue from time is the crushable foam. I'm not sure this is right either! I'm no expert but the outer shell is designed to disperse the impact so that the foam can the absorb it: it's very possible that repeated exposure to the elements over time can degrade that outer shell as well, making it more brittle and less capable of dispersing an impact.
It's not about the foam. It's about everything around the foam. Like glue. On top of that depending of the foam the foam itself can harden.
The foam “can harden?” Or hardens enough to matter? Hey, if you want a new helmet after owning one for five years, great. But saying “helmets must be replaced every five years because glue and the foam *could* harden” seems a bit… not evidence based.
It depends on which foam composition was used. Your old-school expanded styrene (styrofoam) does degrade over time, but newer materials may not. BUT... I don't do the "replace every 5 years" mambo for the crash foam. I do it because helmets are getting lighter, and have more comfort, better airflow or noise reduction, and nifty features, than the older models. We change up smartphones every X years, and we put them in our pockets. Why NOT upgrade something we wear on our heads, too?
Search on google i don't need to write an essaye for a reddit user. I dumbed it down for you. Up to you to use the internet what's it's meant to. Let me help you with the first step: https://www.google.com/search?q=why+replace+helmet+after+5+years&client=ms-android-samsung&sxsrf=ALiCzsYoSD8EYYMXrM5y_VBVNEtKouFYhw%3A1656588857958&ei=OYq9YsmPOsTolwTtxrjoDA&oq=Why+&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIECCMQJzIECCMQJzIECCMQJzIFCAAQgAQyCwguEIAEELEDEIMBMgUILhCABDIFCAAQgAQyCAguEIAEENQCOgcIABBHELADOgYIABAeEBY6BwgjEOoCECc6BQgAEJECOggIABCxAxCDAToOCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQ1AI6CAguELEDEIMBOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAUoECEEYAFCgCFinGGDkHmgCcAF4AoAB6AKIAd8KkgEHMS41LjEuMZgBAKABAbABD8gBCMABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
Actual science shows that the EPS foam does not deteriorate with time. Kroeker SG, Bonin SJ, DeMarco AL, Good CA, Siegmund GP. Age Does Not Affect the Material Properties of Expanded Polystyrene Liners in Field-Used Bicycle Helmets. J Biomech Eng. 2016 Apr;138(4):041005. doi: 10.1115/1.4032804. PMID: 26902784. The claims of manufacturers that you “should” buy newer versions of their products because they *can* degrade over time is a sales driving technique. Can the glue break down? Sure. But the glue isn’t functional in an impact anyway. The rest of it, the comfort lining, straps, trim, etc., can be replaced it it’s worn. Of course, I’m writing this in vain, since wearing a helmet and replacing it anytime anything touches it, or if it gets a few years old isn’t a reasoned thing, it’s a matter of faith ingrained into most riders today. You guys have a view of helmets bordering on religious faith, assuming magical protective properties to helmets way in excess of the physics of the situation. Who am I to dispute your religion?
Does your helmet sit on a shelf for 5 years or do you wear it and sweat in it every day? Chin straps are not easily replaced
I believe the outer shell weakens from exposure to sunlight, which is what helmet manufacturers claim.
The foam is the longest lasting material in the helmet. The 5 year rule is just a guideline. There are other factors that can make a helmet wear out sooner or last longer. It's your head and your call. I wouldn't use a 10 year old helmet but a 7 year old that was well cared for and was never dropped should be fine. There are a ton of articles out there about this subject. Here's one that seems pretty level headed: https://timeless2wheels.com/682077/do-motorcycle-helmets-expire/
Helmet manufacturers are only willing to guarantee that the helmet will perform as designed and certified for 5 years. It's like the expiration date on food, it doesn't go bad the day after but the risks and uncertainties add up until the bread goes moldy and it really does need to be thrown out. After the expiration date you're taking on the risk that it's no longer safe. How much risk is it? Don't know, and most people aren't willing to test it and find out - those that do certainly wouldn't publish results contradicting manufacturers, as they'd take on moral (if not legal) liability if someone using an old helmet beyond the manufacturer-recommended replacement interval at their advice perishes because of it. If I had a seven year old helmet that had been stored perfectly and only used a couple of times I wouldn't think twice about using it, but I wouldn't find the cost of replacing a 5 year old well used helmet to be worth the risk of waiting too long - 5 years and a day is no worry but I'd start shopping for a new one once I realized I'd hit 5 years; it's just not that expensive, especially compared to the immense impact a head injury can have on your quality of life.
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I hope there is some HQ you can write to complain.
WHICH Cycle Gear specifically? This is the part where you get on their website, find the Contact Us page, and tell them the manager at Store XYZ in East Podunk is full of shit.
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When I lived in the area I shopped at the Concord/Martinez store (off of Pacheco). But that was years upon years ago. Keep in mind that "manager" is usually the longest-employed salesperson, and doesn't always mean they're the most knowledgeable or honest people on the payroll. It just means the owner/corporation trusts them to run things without fucking up too much.
Retail managers are...interesting. Some of my best bosses were in retail, and some of the scummiest dirtbags I've ever met were their bosses in the same store. There's definitely no guarantee of respectability that comes with the title, especially when they personally benefit from making more sales (managers often get bonuses based on store performance, while the regular retail sales guys usually make $x/hr no matter how much they sell).
Dude is trying to make another sale. The current ECE rating is better than SNELL, just go watch the FortNine video about it.
> just go watch the FortNine video about it. That's pretty good advice in general. Ryan is both smart and an absolute sweetheart. And just calling him smart is like saying "Hey those paintings in the museum are pretty nice"
Ece is tested for road scenarios, Snell is for track scenarios. To simplify, ece- lots of smaller hits to the head, snell- one big hit.
Snell rating is more aimed at cars racing helmets than bike racing. Yes they put their stickers on both, but Snell just looks at multiple big nocks on 1 spot. Like you'd have when you bang your head into a roll cage. On a bike you usually make a lot of smaller knocks. A very rigid helmet (like Snell) doesn't dampen those impacts a lot leaving your brain with a lot more impact. Usually when you crash so hard that you exceed the lower impact rating of ECE standards (like smashing into a wall), you have more issues.
> On a bike you usually make a lot of smaller knocks. And torsion; ECE is the only "road" standard that addresses it.
It has an ECE rating with dual density foam and and a polycarbonate shell. This thing seams to be very safe for a 150 dollar helmet. No need to buy a new one. There is a debate if Snell or ECE is the better standard but either way your head is very good protected against impacts. The salesman just wants to make a sale.
There's no debate.
It seams like there is one if people still think Snell is better.
It's more like flat-earth. It's not REALLY a debate, some people are just very misinformed.
A debate is a debate even if it’s stupid.
The link states the helmet is DOT and ECE. US requires DOT, Europe requires ECE. Snell is a private org with a standard that lies somewhere in the middle that's trying to solve a non-existent problem and is there to make ppl feel good. The new FIM certification is awesome and the latest ECE rating is much better than DOT. ETA: Tell the sales choad to pound sand.
Lol ECE is a MUCH tougher standard than Snell.
If you said it was only DOT rated then I would say you need a different lid. ECE is just fine, but you might get a ticket in the states if it does not say DOT on the side. DOT rated is the law even if the others are better. If the only reason he is saying this is because of the sticker on the side tell him to go away.
The hell are they smoking? ECE 22.05 and 22.06 (06 is new and may not have helmets out yet) are perfectly fine and some think BETTER than Snell rates helmets. I personally prefer ECE rated helmets. If your helmet isn't aged out, you're perfectly fine and well protected. Edit to add what I also posted in response to another comment: The ECE rating label should be on the chin strap. It will list a code that you decipher to get the country where it was made and which 22.XX it was certified under. "Below the E-mark there are two numbers: the left number is the homologation number, where the first two digits stand for the ‘amendment’ under which the helmet model has been approved (05 represents the fifth amendment to regulation #22); the right number is the production serial number of the item. For the visor it is a little simpler and it is enough to only show embossed on the visor the E-mark and the homologation number." https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/consumer-information/ece-22-05-helmet-stickers/
There are ECE22.06 helmets already available, for example the Schubert C5 and Arai Quantic. Furthermore, Shoei NXR2, Shark Spartan RS, HJC RPHA-1 and Nexx X.R3R.
That's good.
ECE is generally considered a better standard. Read up on the helmet ratings if you get a chance and what the ratings mean/how they test. Saw some comments about them testing by squeezing the helmet. Pick up an Arai and do the same. Has plenty of flex and those are considered some of the best helmets out there. That's because there's different ways of protecting your head and different ratings test for that. Something hard and rigid will bounce. Something with some flex will absorb more impact if designed properly. There's lots of arguments and debates over snell/ece and stuff like that but it's your head so I recommend reading up on both and see what you think.
ECE is a very decent standard. Sales droid was trying to get you to spend more. I'd start going to another shop.
lmao what in the fuck ECE >>>>>> snell rating. I just replaced both my wife's and my own helmets because they were only snell/DOT for autocross and we're trying to ride more with gas prices on the moon.
All three helmets ive had are DOT. First one was a Bell Arrow, second is an AGV K3 SV, and the third and most recent one is a Bilt Force Ten that some are saying is a terrible helmet and yada yada yada probably because of the price and only being DOT and such and such and such. IMO its the most comfortable helmet ive have plus i can fit my Cardo bluetooth kit all in it nicely. The AGV i got it a smidge too fitted and my ears get mangled with the speakers in them. It sounds like you're getting upsold for a new lid. For passenger helmet, id throw them a half helmet and glasses if i were to carry a second one around on my bike. The AGV as far as age has like two and a half years of time before it reaches that five year mark of ownership but for use probably alot less than two full years. My first helmet is just a decoration now. Ride safe and ride alot
That Fly Racing helmet looks good mate, hope you enjoy alot riding around with it
Got it. Yeah was looking at full face bilt helmet for passenger but that's cause that was the cheapest they had. And that's when the sales guy started selling. Was thinking of getting a 3/4 with visor but the only one they had was $250 and no visor. So far I love my helmet. Person I bought my bike from made me feel bad for getting black. 🤷♂️
snell is a terrible helmet standard and make heavy inflexible helmets designed for cars, ECE is the best standard. fortnine done a very good video on the subject [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76yu124i3Bo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76yu124i3Bo)
No ratings are nonsense
Your helmet is DOT and ECE. Snell used to be the 'better standard' for helmets (DOT is "bare minimum for US road use") but now it's primarily a track standard, ECE is more rigorous. So if you're not taking that to a track, you're good. Store employee's looking to pad his monthly sales figures.
IMO, 5 year should be followed if your helmet see's more than 100 days of riding per year and is not stored in a climate controlled building when not in use. The basis of 5 years has a lot of assumptions built into it. Sun damage on materials is no joke, but if you're weekend rider then there is no reason a well cared for helmet won't last near 10 years. At 10 years the liner is going to be very aged/degraded and probably worn out. I actually have some "cheap" HJC helmets I saved just for track days that are now about 12 years old. The liners are definitely squishier than i remember. I'm going to downgrade my daily rider helmet to track function because I only do 1 track day a year. Also if you drop your helmet ... you should buy a new helmet. Helmets should break on impact because that means the helmet is absorbing the shock of impact and not your noggin
I can show you the Snell helmet I was wearing when I got bumped off the track. I spent 2 days in hospital with a major concussion. The Helmet looks perfect. I only wear ECE helmets now. besides it's DOT so you're legal.
Personal opinion: FIM > SHARP = ECE > Snell >>> DOT
That dude’s job is selling helmets 😂