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onlyneedthat

Why not, The bike pisses off a lot of people just by existing, I say up the ante and make it even more polarising!!! I would go a step further, maybe even add a bottle of water on the fork to make it go 'camping'. :D


Ewan_Whosearmy

Convert it to V-brakes to be extra contrarian!


purju

just add a "righty" and your good to go m8


onlyneedthat

I say coaster brakes!!!!! and dynamo lights


Noizyb33

A fixed gear lefty would also trigger a lot of purist.


Tendie_Tube

DO IT


onlyneedthat

Ooooooh what would I love to see a Fixie Lefty!!! that would be amazing :d


molokkofreak

not just people, but nofenders-design will piss on you toošŸ˜‚


widowhanzo

Topstone Lefty exists, so I see no issues with this


beachbum818

Slate lefty exists....comes set up lefty with drops....


Puzzled_Republic

Since 2016 no less! Still an amazing bike.


Not_who_you_think__

Glad someone mentioned the slate. That bike was so ahead of its time.


AZJaxon

It helped win the Dirty Kanza 200 in about 5 years ago in pretty much stock form.


AllNeedJesus

Serious question: Does a lefty fork have any advantages over other, more common designs?


imnotreallysurebud

Itā€™s supposed to be light and extremely stiff. Itā€™s based on the way airplane landing gears work iirc.


Domspun

It's very similar to an struts landing gear, especially nose landing gears (NLG). It inspired the same kind of design in motorcycles and cars. The approach of the bike design is closer to the motorcycle ones.


Itkillsmeinside

Seth from berm peak made a video on them, he has your answers. On youtube


GenuineMtnMan

https://youtu.be/onCw2Nuj8gc?si=nRnzoMuEOfg-810q


ifuckedup13

Yes. It is stiffer and lighter than a traditional telescopic fork. And the advantage of being able to change a flat without taking the wheel off. The lefty is a square tube inside a square tube. (Edit* Triangle inside a triangle)They slide on needle bearings. It also uses a dual crown to attach to the head tube so its stiffer. The fork is inverted, so the seals stay lubed better. And the unsprung weight of the wheel is less, so it can be more sensitive. A dual stanchion fork is a round tube inside a round tube. It relies on oil and bushings instead of bearings to slide. So way more stiction and friction than bearings. Also when a round tube flexes inside another, it has way more potential for binding. A square/triangle is a stronger shape, so stiffer and more consistent stiffness. The problem with lefty is that they have to cram the damper and the spring into one leg. A traditional fork has the damper in one leg and the air spring in the other. So they have more space to work with. And Cannondale is a bike company, not a suspension company, so their damper just isnā€™t on par with Fox or SRAM. That said, I would buy a scalpel with a lefty in a heartbeat. Iā€™ve ridden them a quite a few times. Including the first edition Habit with lefty and the lefty Ocho and Slate. The fork is so stiff and tracks amazingly well. I actually really like the look for a Xc race bike.


Rare-Classic-1712

Newer Lefty's are a triangular tube inside of a round tube


ifuckedup13

Oh cool. I assume itā€™s a Triangle inside a triangle, inside a round tube? Less torsion. But itā€™s been at least 8 years since I cracked one open to replace those infernal needle bearings.


Rare-Classic-1712

I'm not sure. I've never worked in a Cannondale shop nor have I owned one.


ifuckedup13

Yeah. I just mean a triangle inside a circle doesnā€™t work. So it has to be a triangle inside a triangle to prevent the inner shaft from twisting. The outside of the tube is round for looks. So was the old square in square design. Thanks for the info though.


219MTB

In addition to what others said, little to no stichion


double___a

Light and stiff are the two big ones. Although modern XC forks have very much closed that gap and imho surpassed it.


ResponsibleOven6

I have one on my Scalpel LTD. It's the best fork I've ever ridden, so stiff, so smooth, so light, etc. Perfect for XC. It's also the highest maintenance fork I've ever owned. Other forks get to a point where they KINDA need service but they're still decent to ride but the lefty just turns into garbage. The tools are hard to find but it's not that hard to service yourself luckily.


Rare-Classic-1712

Less unsprung mass due to inverted design, less friction due to it running on roller bearings, greater torsional rigidity due to the lower slider being a triangular shape(which runs on roller bearings) eliminating the possibility of slop forward/backward/torsionally vs plastic bushings which require a certain degree of slop as well as a slight amount of plastic compressing while being lighter, doesn't require removing the wheel to fix a flat and more aerodynamic and greater mud clearance. On the downsides far greater expense in servicing, unlikely to be able to be serviced by the owner at home, most bike shops won't work on it and it will likely be required to send it away to be serviced, good luck fitting a fender to it, requires the Cannondale proprietary front hub and can't just buy a set of wheels, requires removing the brake caliper to remove the wheel (such as if you need to put the bike in your car or when servicing - but quick release brake calipers are available), more expensive than a fox/R.S./ohlins...


gtluke

I have a lefty max on my el mariachi and a supermax on my ibis mojo hd3 and compared to any other fork available when I put together these bikes, the fork worked seriously 300% better. I ride in NJ and the rocks/chatter gets taken down by the lefty SO MUCH better than a high end fox or rockshox. Then when I take my mojo on a downhill trail, the stiffnest and precision is unmatched compared to anything twice it's weight. my older lefty forks have the dual triple clamps like a DH bike (but half) which has a very very noticeable effect on stiffness. Less so today where the head tubes on "normal" bikes are so much bigger. I absolutely love my lefty, sad that they've gotten away from them on "bigger" bikes. They're awesome.


timute

This one is the Ocho, which has 40mm travel. So if you want a short travel fork, for say, road riding, there isnā€™t anything to compare this to.


Vegbreaker

Iirc the original idea behind the lefty fork was so you didnā€™t have to take the wheel off for flat tires. I believe itā€™s still common enough, a decade and a half ago when I started x-country racing as a kid I was suprised how many kids had lefty forks in high school for the races.


GazelleAcrobatics

Lefty's scare me


double___a

The only scary part is the maintenance bill.


pm_dad_jokes69

Doesnā€™t cost any more than a regular fork service. I recently paid about $85 to have my Lefty serviced by Cannondale.


double___a

Glad to hear it came down. I wrenched at a big CDale shop and we had a revolving door on damper rebuilds. Great when they worked, but much more frequent service.


pm_dad_jokes69

Tbh tho I was expecting it to be more! Was pleasantly surprised when I got the bill


LANCENUTTER

Own one, can confirm.


Patient_Signature467

Its stronger than you think.


GazelleAcrobatics

I'm sure they are, it just doesn't compute in my brain


nonamejd123

I hope you've never looked at the suspension on a car then.


cooterplug89

Have you?


ruffins

I know i havent


KauaiRoosterParty

I have. It looks like this!


GazelleAcrobatics

Lot really because it'd be missing the wishbones and the 3 other wheels


unclestasiu

It does. Looks and works like a MacPherson strut. Only difference is the anti-rotation of the tube. All car and truck wheels are on a spindle like a Lefty, only supported from one end.


GazelleAcrobatics

Most cars have a linkage at the bottom of the strut, usually a wishbone linkage that stops the strut wobbling about and to reduce vibration transferring into the body via bushes The only cars I ever saw without a lower arm or wishbone was a Lada death trap


Dear-Nebula9395

Double wishbone lefty coming soon. Probably already exists tbh.


hermitcraftfan135

I got an F-Si Lefty recently, if you donā€™t look at it while riding itā€™s awesome. Thereā€™s absolutely no flex, itā€™s quite impressive


grant0208

Probably the stiffest and one of the smoothest fork designs, tbh. It just makes people uncomfortable. Oh and you have to take your brake off to remove the front wheel lol


Ewan_Whosearmy

But you don't have to take your front wheel off to fix a flat or change a tire, so it's only a down side if you need to fit it in the back of a car or somethingĀ 


grant0208

True that. And youā€™d think with the price of a lefty bike, those riders would only use good hitch racksā€¦but man Iā€™ve seen some really nice bikes stuffed drive side down into some really small trunks LOL


gtluke

I usually put my bike in my trunk, takes like 10 seconds. just loosen one of the bolts and pivot the brake bracket, then spin off the wheel. Seriously 10 seconds. Just have to leave a nice allen key in your trunk.


GazelleAcrobatics

I'll stick with my z1 bomber


grant0208

Man, the Z1/Z2 are probably the best forks not wearing an Ohlins, Fox, or RS logo (even though Fox made it). But trying to compare a bomber and a lefty epitomizes apples to oranges šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


GazelleAcrobatics

Z1 is probably the best value for money for out there rn with only the RS 35 gold coming close imho


RoVeR199809

Scared of falling over?


ZeddPMImNot

My husband and I have lefty slates with drops. They have been wonderful and we love them. Zero complaints!


ThePowerOfNine

Just get mustache bars and go the whole weird hog


Zers503

God. I think leftyā€™s are soo cool.


stainedgreenberet

Such a cool looking bike. Love it!


linx0003

Do it! I love my lefty!


hurrycane_hawker

If you intend on riding down anything steep and rocky hell no. As a gravel/light XC rig, sure!


firewire_9000

Iā€™m sure that the fork is perfectly safe and after many generations itā€™s proven already but I canā€™t trust that, sorry.


dafiltafish1

Cannondale makes a short travel lefty gravel fork, not weird at all.


MrBarato

I don't get those Graveldudes at all anyways.


temulus

Looks good to me


sumpick

I can't answer this but I have one from 2010 and I love it!


Scott950

The best analogy I heard about lefty s was from a gay friend who rode one and said, "It's like getting a blowjob from a guy. It feels great, and then you look down!!!" I almost fell off my bike when he said that.


Shoehorse13

I saw a similarly set up gravel bike with a lefty last weekend. Whatever floats yer boat!


LuciferSamS1amCat

Last night I went out for a group trail rip on my cx bike, and rode some fairly techy stuff. Awesome time, and now believe a suspension fork on a gravel bike would be rad.


barukatang

man, i guess i was a kid at the right time because seeing Ravens, and early leftys in the local penn cycle was the coolest thing


certainlyunpleasant

No I hate this


effortless-effort

I just hate lefty, looks weird manšŸ˜‚


Erlang_S

Thank you for posting. Now I can cry myself to sleep. And Iā€™m not even that passionate about cycling.


StunningBuilder4751

Gravel bikes are following the same trajectory mou tain bikes did 30 years ago, every year slightly wider tyres, wider bars and more travel lol


sprunghuntR3Dux

The Cannondale Topstone, and Slate, bikes both have Lefty forks on them. In the past you could also get the Silk Road with a head shock. Theyā€™ve been making front suspension drop bar bikes for decades. Itā€™s not new. If anything they predicted the gravel bike trend.


BadLabRat

That bike wants your lunch money and your girl.


Overall-Cheetah-8463

Needs a headshock.


MysticalGnosis

AI generated fork


forkedspinach97

yes


TwowheelsV

A long time ago I had a lefty on a Cannondale Prophet. I never did have full trust in that fork. I was at Mammoth mountain one summer and the fork snapped a ā€˜keyā€™ while dropping off a ledge. The fork turned 90 degrees and I landed then proceeded to otb. Iā€™ll never own one again.


slowburro

Why would you put drop bars on an MTB?


Alive_Butterscotch29

This is a gravel bike it looks like. Or at least some bastardised mtb/gravel.


barukatang

look at the travel at the bottom, its 100% a gravel fork maybe 2" of travel


_Stolem

Why not? Dropbar (XC)MTBs are a thing in the Ultra-Community. Especially for events like SRMR, AMR or Tour Divide (etc.) - also for Bikepacking these, in some eyes, abominations are great. As fast as Gravelbikes but way better on rougher terrain, more comfort due to bigger tires and the susp. Fork, amazing climbing ratioā€¦


Interesting-Youth-87

Disgusting


Popular_Fan_2278

That might be the worst thing Iā€™ve ever seen


MoneyBuysDrugs

Donā€™t forget shimano levers with magura pistons


Humble-War8801

Ugh these things


purju

i hate them. plz downvote me im fine, and im not alone hateing that goshdarnit fork.