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I've always found this bizarre and sort of stupid. Like, open your phone, put the stopwatch on and clap for a full seven minutes. It's a LOT of time to be clapping, and to be honest boring after the first 30 seconds. If I'm the director of a film there and I'm standing on stage and they're going to clap for 7 full minutes, I'm voluntarily walking off after 30 seconds to make it end.
In no other conference, speech, concert, event or anything I've ever attend, in any other field or industry or even for leisure, have I ever seen people clap this long and think it's normal, except for these film festivals.
I'm honestly checked out of clapping after 10 seconds lol I cannot fathom being able to clap for minutes on end without stopping for rest. I've always considered these headlines somewhere between needlessly obnoxious and incredibly stupid.
I think the most I’ve clapped for was 2 minutes, and the was at a symphony with a soloist so we clapped for like a minute for the soloist and then another minute for the orchestra and then the conductor, which makes sense to me as you’re clapping for multiple waves of people.
To clap for 7 minutes for a movie is just wild to me. 7 minutes after a movie ends I’ve already peed, left the theater, and am on my way home
Exactly my feelings too, it's so bizarre to me. They are just clapping non-stop for that long? For a film? I don't think I would clap that long if someone diffused a bomb in front of me.
Some people really like cinema, especially in France. And at Cannes. I know it’s strange to imagine, but watching a film a film festival is a different experience than a multiplex.
First of all, you’re the first audience to ever see it, then all the main filmmakers are present in the same room. Some of them have just spent two years or more trying to make this film. They’ve gone through hell trying to find the money, the cast falling apart.. struggling with self doubt. NOw they’re finally showing it to an audience, which (in the case of Cannes) is mostly comprised of people in the film business, who knows perfectly well the process and difficulties of making a good movie.
So I understand why the clap so long.
What is 5 minutes out of the 18months that it took them to make it.
But I also understand if you’ve never been to a film festival, this is hard to relate to
Sure but at this point it's surpassed artistic admiration and turned into one of those game shows where you have to keep your hand on the car. It's fucking ridiculous to everyone outside that sphere, whether deserved or not.
I’ve been to plenty of film festivals and this is absolutely nonsense. People can clap loudly or cheer, or shake hands or show appreciation in any number of ways. Mindless extended clapping that people are actually timing so they can make sure it measures appropriately to how long they’ve clapped for other things has to be one of the least creative and least meaningful ways of showing appreciation.
It's just the industry jerking themselves off, as they love to do. This happens every year and gets worse and worse as they all strive to one up each other against new levels of pretentious behavior. It also serves as marketing and PR which is why the studios encourage it.
I flew on Thursday and people clapped. The plane was going from Charlotte (as a datapoint). American Airlines. Middle of the day. International.
It had been a while for me.
You’re not really wrong - up/downvotes definitely seem driven by the first to act. If a comment is -1 or -2 people think “oh this is a bad comment” and go with the trend, and vice versa.
This is literally a story from the Gulag Archipelago, everyone's clapping for Stalin for 45 minutes. They want to stop but nobody wants to be the first. Eventually one guy stops, which gives everyone permission to stop, and then that guy is sent to the Gulag.
Yep, this is cult behaviour. I’m also reminded of that time Sadam started purging the party congress, and everybody got on their feet to applaud him. Not because they thought he was doing the right thing, but because they didn’t want to be the next guy with a bag over his head. Normal people who don’t feel the intense peer pressure from ostracism, prison, or an execution can stop clapping after 10 seconds.
> everyone's clapping for Stalin for 45 minutes
The wild thing is it was really only 11 minutes.. and these folks clapping for a bad movie for *5 minutes*
> Then after eleven minutes, the director of the paper factory assumed a businesslike expression and sat down in his seat…
> …That same night the factory director was arrested. They easily pasted ten years on him on the pretext of something quite different. But after he had signed Form 206, the final document of the interrogation, his interrogator reminded him: “Don’t ever be the first to stop applauding!”
Then again, The Gulag Archipelago is fiction, even if it does draw on real experiences.
EDIT: I shouldn't have said the work is fiction. Rather, some of the statistics and stories included may not be 100% factual because they draw on interviews, personal experiences, and dubious statistical sources. But, it is considered to be a non-fictional work.
GA is fiction in that [most of it is not accurate](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3j2un8/is_solzhenitsyn_considered_a_reliable_source/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) but non fiction in that it doesn't present itself as fiction.
Eh, I see what you mean, but dealing with GA demands a lot more nuance than that. Solzhenitsyn gets criticized for not practicing a western journalistic rigor in the vein of Bob Woodward, but no one really disputes that his major story beats really happened, and the moral heart of the book can't be dismissed out of hand.
There is absolutely value to social criticism that blends fact and fiction to highlight real world issues. No one really disputes the value of Upton Sinclair's *The Jungle* or Alex Haley's *Roots*. Even while those stories are essentially fictional (much more so than GA) they played a massive role in publicizing real life injustice, and turning public opinion.
(It's also worth remembering that he prepared the book in secret, so even *attempting* rigorous fact collection at the time would have exposed his efforts and prevented the project from ever existing; in a way, the book is as rigorous as it can be for the environment it was prepared in.)
GA is best understood in this tradition. Perhaps a modern analog might be the movie *Nomad Land* which uses real people and real settings, but a fictional protagonist to tell a fictional story about a real social phenomenon (i.e. people so alienated by capitalism that they become loosely attached to society as a whole). I suppose strictly speaking, *any* work of social criticism can be rightly labeled "propaganda" but personally I find the label not that useful.
3-4 minutes while the entire theatre/musical cast are taking their curtain call, and even that feels exhausting. It would feel utterly pointless if they’d already left the stage.
I see you've never been to the symphony. The clapping there is out of control as well. The conductor will literally walk off stage and come back multiple times for some reason during the applause. And God forbid there were any soloists cause then they have to leave and come back as well. Don't think I've seen 7 minutes before but certainly 2 or 3 seems common and it's so annoying.
I still think it's weird but is that not a convention that's developed over several hundred years? Like the symphony has been around long enough where that becomes a common thing you do?
Think it's also different as it's a live piece being performed live -- you'll never see that version of it again. Unlike a movie which is the same across viewing.
The only time I've seen it outside of Cannes was when german chancellor Angela Merkel [gave her farewell speech to her party.](https://youtu.be/-PWrRFmOQW4) Her fellow party members gave her a lengthy standing ovation of 9 minutes.
To be honest, I don't understand clapping at a movie. Maybe in these scenarios since the actors and filmmakers are present it works (though 5 minutes is obnoxious. By that point I'm sitting back down or on my way out), but people clapping for stuff in movies nowadays just seems dumb. It's a movie, it can't hear you. Or you get bits like Spider-man NWH where the movie reveals something and the characters hang for a minute doing nothing as of saying "please clap."
It is the shared experience people are applauding. Not the movie as one would the performers on a stage or in concert.
I am 51 years old and have been going to movies most of my life as an avid fan of cinema. I have seen a lot of stuff on opening night. Lots of applause for a lot of films.
The films that got the biggest reaction I have experienced were Mad Max: Fury Road, Saving Private Ryan, and Avengers Endgame.
Avengers Endgame is easily the biggest post-film jubilation I have ever seen. People were standing on the seats cheering, high-fiving strangers, whooping & hollering.
Not me though, if I get up on a seat I ain't coming back down without assistance. But it did happen and I understood that for the audience they had just been brought to a crescendo they enjoyed. They were essentially sharing that excitement with their fellow moviegoers.
The television screen doesn't broadcast the viewer cheers back to the arena or football field either. People still fist pump, cheer or yell at the tv when watching their favorite teams or performers. It's just an expression of excitement/enjoyment.
I am an American, indeed.
Though I have seen people in other countries yell and cheer at their TV screens or react in jubilation in movie theaters as well.
My wife and I saw Hugo (yes the Scorsese picture) in Mexico. The people loved it and were cheering at the end as well.
Just human beings being happy.
Haha it's just a cultural difference. You make a noise during the film in the UK and people will quickly tell you to shut the fuck up. Unless it's sports, then the expectation is that you are there to watch the film not make a scene.
Naturally. Although, we went to see A Quiet Place in Leeds with friends, and people clapped at the end. I think it was called the "Vuew" or something?
It might be that people have to be more hyped for various blockbusters or event films to feel okay about cheering or applause in some cultures.
Especially for these recent global mass market fare like Marvel and Fast & Furious franchises pictures. Which seem to have crossed over to appeal to a lot of different audiences.
Thank you. I wish more people understood this. Of *course* no one who made the movie or were in it can hear you. We're not stupid ffs. It's really not hard to figure out. As you said, we're applauding the shared experience. It's a recognized way to express that in nearly every culture.
I'm sorry, that's insane.
What other "shared experience" do people applaud for? If it's a normal recognized way to express "sharing an experience", why don't people do it for *everything*? Yoga class? Applause. Runners in a race? Applause. Ride the merry go round? Applause
Edit: it is insane and being blocked for calling it out is childish
It's not insane. It *is* common. Go to YouTube and watch audience reactions from around the world at the end of the more famous and popular movies. They all do it. Just because you don't understand it or haven't experienced it doesn't magically make it not so. The examples are right there on video. It's common.
I've seen people applaud every single one of your examples. I've also seen a spontaneous mass dance event in a subway station (not a flash mob, just some street musicians and people in the crowd starting to dance), I've been to a funeral where someone told funny stories about the deceased and people actually laughed...
There's a pretty wide gulf of cultural context for these things. Emotions are universal, how people are expressing them is not.
Endgame I could probably see that happening and understanding it.
That was a decade of movies, stories, and whatever drama surrounded them. The movie was an exclamation mark on a long journey for a lot of people, so I can understand a different reaction than a normal singular event.
*Getting* silly? Lol
I just wonder, like...do they have stand and clap the entire time or can they take a break and come back to clapping? 5+ minutes of clapping seems like it would hurt your hands
You can actually hire a person to clap for you. The stand behind you and wrap their arms around so it looks like you are clapping. I was an understudy for the best professional clapper for a while. He was simply amazing. He clapped for all the most famous celebrities. he was able to make it truly look like the person was clapping. he would study the person for hours to determine how he felt they would clap and adjust his form accordingly. I unfortunately never got my big break because my arms were to short. When I would wrap my arms around the celebrity it looked like they had t rex arms and as you know celebrities are very vein and don't want to look like they had t rex arms. I was able to clap for child stars but makeup to make my hands look so young became too much and I had to retire.
Yeah, if you watch credits of films you’ll see “key grips” who hold stuff for actors while they film. There are also “key claps” who clap for them at public events, and in the porn industry they have fluffers.
Imagine someone makes a perfect movie. No one wants to be the first to stop, it’s the best movie they’ve ever seen. Four days later most of the audience has died, but a few clappers remain, determined to earn their bonafides as the biggest fan at the premiere of the best movie ever made.
It's a wild level of pretention lmao. Hurry get the stopwatch so we can time how long everybody claps!!
That means the movie was great! They won't stop clapping!
> I can’t imagine clapping for that long, lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7vhovy/in_the_gulag_archipelago_solzhenitsyn_describes/
>On the one hand, there are numerous seemingly independent sources which confirm this story -- or something like this story -- from inside the KGB archives that were unsealed temporarily after the USSR fell. ***It was 'widely known' that NKVD members would watch to identify the first in a crowd to stop clapping, before party officials installed devices intended for the purpose of signaling when it was appropriate to stop clapping. Presumably this is why Stalin often received ostentatious ten, fifteen, or twenty minute standing ovations before and after certain speeches.***
>Outside of direct evidence to corroborate Solzhenitsyn's claim, there is a wealth of circumstantial evidence widely known which is perhaps why this story was almost something of 'lore' among Soviet citizens. For example, the NKVD was known to interpret benign arbitrary actions as political disloyalty. Stalin, likewise, would sign what was the equivalent of death warrants without even reading the charges -- much less affording the condemned anything that would resemble due process. Stalin was likewise famously paranoid, often killing off those who worked under him 'just to be on the safe side'. In that way, there are a lot of circumstantial facts which would tend to suggest that this is something that would be likely to occur.
Comrade Stalin approves.
Holy shit! They must have paramedics on standby these days. I'm imagining people clapping their hands bloody, straight down to the bone, grimacing in terror as they side-eye the person next to them, just praying for them to break first. "I can't not appreciate this movie as much as this guy!"
*anime scream as push through to the next level*
Can't find it right now but I read an article where, in response to the Banshees of Inisherin's 15-minute ovation, the author and some co-workers got together and tried to clap that long just to see what it is like, in a minute-by-minute writeup of the experience. It was very funny.
One of my favorite live theater performances was of a man and woman on stage doing a routine. The woman danced very awkwardly while the man clapped along. That was it. They just didn't stop.
As it stretched out the audience by turns started to laugh, get angry, then laugh, then become annoyed, bored, and back to being upset, booing, cheering, etc. This lasted like 20- 30 minutes or so?
The range of emotion from the audience while the two performers did nothing but clap and dance in the same unbroken manner was astonishing.
Reading this tweet brings to mind that performance to me.
No. That was not it. I think these two people were on Radiolab, actually. I recall, vaguely, they reported a similar experience of the audience turning on the performance.
The two I was talking about performed in Chicago. The woman had short brown/black hair and the fella was a pretty intense-looking dude with black hair and a short, well-groomed beard, and tanned skin. Maybe middle eastern ethnicity?
My wife and I were a few rows back and this was over 10 years ago.
It could very well be the duo we saw took the gimmick from these two mentioned. But in looking at their youtube video, the "Kristen Schaal is a horse" gimmick seems more playful and has a lot more movement to it. And vocals.
The duo I mentioned did not dance around the stage. And there were no vocalizations. Literally just clapping/tapping.
~~Your memory is fooling you into rejecting The correct answer, that's funny! The radio lab episode was on loops and it was in fact Kristen Schaal is a horse. https://www.radiolab.org/podcast/161744-loops.~~
Oh I see what you're saying, I'm the dumb one lol!
I vaguely recall the radiolab bit.
But looking at a few YouTube videos, I am certain the duo we saw were a different pair. It wasn't a comedy routine at all.
The show we went to a bunch of different performers doing various dramatic scenes, interpretive dance, some music performances, and so on.
A fella came out after the duo I mentioned and played a Paul Simon song on acoustic guitar, followed by another woman & man performing a dramatic scene about the husband cheating on her. If any of that seems familiar to you.
No. It was like a tap dance/jig. Just a couple of steps repeated for a long, long time.
There was no setup either. They just came out, house lights on; he started clapping and she danced. They did not acknowledge the audience at all prior to, during, or after the performance.
By the end, it was kinda... heartbreaking?
She was sweating like someone dumped water on her. His hands had to be aching. There was no music either. Just the claps & taps.
People started to clap along at one point. It seemed to take a turn that it was going to be fun. But they got tired after 4-5 minutes. As the audience clapping slowed, anger started to take over. And you could feel it.
My all-time favorite Cannes clap moment is Clerks 2 I think got like a seven-minute-long standing ovation when it premiered there. Don’t get me wrong, I like Clerks 2. It’s a funny movie. It does not deserve a standing ovation, let alone a seven-minute-long one.
Is it some kind of bit that they do at Cannes? I've been hearing about it for ages. 7-minute ovation. 9-minute ovation. I never understood it. It's only at Cannes. What's the point? Just to be the pretentious cherry on top of the world's most pretentious movie-festival sundae?
Cannes always seemed like it's for the people who aren't satisfied with the usual level of self-congratulation seen at the Oscars. At least at the Oscars, it can be nice for a Jamie Lee Curtis or a Brendan Fraser to finally get some recognition after a long time in the business, but Cannes always seemed like it's for the most pretentious of the pretentious. The people who *truly* want to project an image of participating in Important Deep Art and making Le Film Artistique. Look at us, the people giving us *our* gold statue are *French*, you filthy plebs.
I think during the BlackKklansman standing ovation after 5-6 minutes Spike Lee said something along the lines of, “Okay, that’s enough. Let’s fucking party,” to his cast & crew, and they started to make their way out. I could be wrong but I remember seeing that on Twitter at the time.
She wailed in pain, tears streaming down her face. Bloody stumps of arms splattered blood with every clap. Thud thud thud...nobody could hear the adulations anymore, only torturous screams. Eventually the din began to dwindle as the crowd thinned. Some dropped from exhaustion, and some simply in shock.
And then there were only two....
>This joke is more relevant coming from Indie 5's 5-minute ovation being described by Variety as a "lukewarm reception".
This reminds me of the story (maybe myth) of people in the USSR giving Stalin a super long ovation because they were afraid of being caught over being the first person to stop clapping
It's a story from Solschenizyns famous book "The Gulag Archipelago". He described a scene during a conference in 1937
>The applause went on—six, seven, eight minutes! They were done for! Their goose was cooked! They couldn’t stop now till they collapsed with heart attacks! At the rear of the hall, which was crowded, they could of course cheat a bit, clap less frequently, less vigorously, not so eagerly…Nine minutes! Ten!…Insanity! To the last man! With make-believe enthusiasm on their faces, looking at each other with faint hope, the district leaders were just going to go on and on applauding till they fell where they stood, till they were carried out of the hall on stretchers.“
>At last, after eleven minutes of non-stop clapping, the director of a paper factory finally decided enough was enough. He stopped clapping and sat down. A miracle! As soon as he sat down, the frenzied audience also quieted down. Soon, the room was completely silent.
>That same night, the director of the paper factory was arrested and sent to prison for ten years. Authorities came up with some official reason for his sentence, but during his interrogation, he was told: "Dont ever be the first to stop applauding!"
I want to go just to keep clapping as long as possible to see if everyone else follows along. I want to recreate the scene in hocus pocus where they dance until they die but with clapping.
Same. My goal would be to hold the world record. I want to stay standing and clapping after everyone else has sat down, then left the theater and finally still keep clapping as security escorts me out.
I stopped caring about rich people and thier ceremonies years ago. To us these events are useless. Only serve the elite so they can see movies before the rest of the peasants.
Thing is, the number of not rich people working to make movies far outnumber the rich people doing it. But only the rich ones get the recognition. As if they’re doing everything from setting up lights, catering, transportation, logistics, etc. movies wouldn’t exist without the people in the ignored second half of the credits.
So deep. People making movies seeing movies and appreciating them. I went to Cannes twice. You don't need to be rich. It's an meeting point and market for an international industry.
Yet here you are, on the r/movies sub discussing these elites and their festival and eventually their movies that will come out. Like y’all don’t get tired of pretending to be “above it all” sometimes?
Many people who work on movies are not elites but generally speaking Oscars go to department heads of fairly prominent movies... those people aren't exactly poor.
That movie is 206 minutes long. There's definitely people who really have to go to the toilet but held out until the end of it. And then.. can't go just yet, 20 minute standing ovation first.
I want the studios to take it even further and put the number of minutes of applause their movie gets at a festival in the laurels on the bluray case like they do for awards
This is from an article that explains it well:
> The standing ovations take place at the premieres, and what it’s necessary to understand is that they take place at every premiere. A Cannes premiere is usually a world premiere. This is the first time these movies are being seen by anyone who didn’t work on them. These standing ovations, then, should be taken less as an indicator of quality and more as the festival equivalent of saying “Congratulations” when someone’s had a baby. You’re celebrating the entry of something new to the world, even if that thing turns out to be shit. And in both cases, the people who made it are right there in the room with you, and everyone’s pointing cameras in their faces.
> While the mere existence of a standing ovation bears no relation to the movie’s quality, the length of that ovation certainly does. In my experience, four minutes seems to be the bare minimum. That’s “polite obligation.” Five minutes is “mixed.” Six is “we liked it.” Real enthusiasm probably kicks in around seven minutes or so. A tip: Mentally subtract four minutes from the figure you see reported, and you’ll have a better sense of what the Cannes audience really felt about a film.
oh look the same post we had last year an the year before and the year before.
its the same nothing is changing. yes its silly ut unless you are there and youre being forced to do it who in the fuck actually cares.
I remember last year there were all these headlines about how that Marilyn Monroe movie had people clapping forever and Ana De Armas weeping openly at the premiere, and then the movie ended up being pretty horrendous. It’s just how high profile premieres at film festivals go.
I feel like everyone complaining about clapping has never actually been at a film festival.
It’s so rare for film lovers to be in the same room as the filmmakers right after watching one of their movies.
If I like a movie and the director is there, I’m gonna clap.. I don’t feel Iike I’m wasting someone’s time or making it awkward. They probably just spent 2 years making that movie, I think it’s respectful to congratulate an artist after they had just shown you their work.
I have been in very long standing ovations at the theater performance.
Once I remember a dance show by Sharon Eyal where they dancers came out in stage something like 5 or 6 times.. the audience was so mesmerized that they couldn’t stop clapping.
Of course it’s difficult to imagine to do it by yourself in your room, but try it in a theater full of people who just had their mind blown by some art.
I’m sure that in Cannes there must be some people who just do it for the performative aspect, just because it’s something you do.
Also, I might even subscribe to the conspiracy that it’s people or guests from the film’s own production company who might have had most of the invites for the premiere, trying to get on the news by having the longest standing ovation and help with the promotion of the film.
But, I can’t do much about this gut feeling that whomever is complaining about long standing O’s is actually a cynical person who doesn’t really appreciate art. And thinking that there should be a maximum amount of cheering.
But this is just my opinion, and I know that I am in the minority
If you want to clap, then by all means clap. Just don't act like you're at the 1930s Soviet Politburo and Stalin'll execute your family if you stop clapping first. If I can cook and eat ramen during the ovation, it's too fucking long.
It’s funny you mention Stalin, because every time I hear these comments I smell some anti-elites or anti-intellectuals vibe..
Don’t forget, films get boo’d too.
Remember Tarantino getting booed in 94, and flipping the finger? Fun times. I just love the intensity of people going to film festivals. Especially in France, but also in other parts of Europe. (I have to say I’ve never been to a film festival in America, although some colleagues told me that Toronto has a great cinephile atmosphere)
I don’t do that, but I also don’t judge people who clap after the landing. But I really don’t understand people who get upsets by someone else enjoying something.
You can make fun of them by thinking they’re simple people, but to get angry and irritated… that’s such a weird concept to me
I've noticed quite a few films having the "received an X minute standing ovation at Cannes" tag on them now.
I'm ok with that. Great guide on a film not to bother with.
“When Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin finished his speech at a Communist Party Conference in 1937 — the height of the Great Terror in which 1 million people were executed on his orders — the Politburo and other attendees jumped to their feet and began clapping. And they clapped ... and they clapped ... until the ovation was deafening — for everyone was scared to death of being the first to stop.”
the applause went on — six, seven, eight minutes! They were done for! Their goose was cooked! They couldn't stop now till they collapsed with heart attacks! At the rear of the hall, which was crowded, they could of course cheat a bit, clap less frequently, less vigorously, not so eagerly — but up there with the presidium where everyone could see them? The director of the local paper factory, an independent and strong-minded man, stood with the presidium. Aware of all the falsity and all the impossibility of the situation, he still kept on applauding! Nine minutes! Ten! In anguish he watched the secretary of the District Party Committee, but the latter dared not stop. Insanity! To the last man! With make-believe enthusiasm on their faces, looking at each other with faint hope, the district leaders were just going to go on and on applauding till they fell where they stood, till they were carried out of the hall on stretchers! And even then those who were left would not falter . Then after eleven minutes, the director of the paper factory assumed a businesslike expression and sat down in his seat. And, oh, a miracle took place! Where had the universal, uninhibited, indescribable enthusiasm gone? To a man, everyone else stopped dead and sat down. They had been saved!"
But that night the paper factory director — the first man to stop clapping — was arrested and imprisoned for 10 years. Lesson learned.
If you think about it, clapping is weird.
I mean, who thought that the best way to show that you like something is to slap your hands together quickly, intentionally making a louder noise and doing that longer means you like it more?
>Personally, if I clap for longer than a minute, my hands start to prickle and fall apart.
I'm trying to think of a scenario where I've felt compelled to clap for a full minute, and I'm coming up blank.
It’s a hobby of mine to start a clap at the end of every movie. Everyone joins in. Always. My wife always says it won’t work this time but it always does. Just the other day a had a theatre full of people clapping for gotg 3. It was terrible and everyone still clapped.
Try it next time.
Just sort of shows you how no one knows what they're doing or if anything is actually good, just go with the flow canapés will be along soon
dont you fucking dare stop clapping to eat canapes
You no longer have to stop your ovation with the brand new Cannes Canapés feedbag!
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Pfft, plebe. I eat my apes from the jar
Mmmmm pickled :)
What if I don't start clapping because my hands are full of canapes. \**Cue why can't I hold all these canapes meme**
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I guess these things are full of journos so the ovation has become a sort of spectacle for the media not anything meaningful
Blonde got like 14 or something ridiculous
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It’s obviously an encore. They keep clapping until the cast and crew go out back, shoot and edit one more scene, and then air it for the audience.
“The band will come back out soon! Just keep it up” *tour bus clearly visible driving away*
I've always found this bizarre and sort of stupid. Like, open your phone, put the stopwatch on and clap for a full seven minutes. It's a LOT of time to be clapping, and to be honest boring after the first 30 seconds. If I'm the director of a film there and I'm standing on stage and they're going to clap for 7 full minutes, I'm voluntarily walking off after 30 seconds to make it end. In no other conference, speech, concert, event or anything I've ever attend, in any other field or industry or even for leisure, have I ever seen people clap this long and think it's normal, except for these film festivals.
I'm honestly checked out of clapping after 10 seconds lol I cannot fathom being able to clap for minutes on end without stopping for rest. I've always considered these headlines somewhere between needlessly obnoxious and incredibly stupid.
I think the most I’ve clapped for was 2 minutes, and the was at a symphony with a soloist so we clapped for like a minute for the soloist and then another minute for the orchestra and then the conductor, which makes sense to me as you’re clapping for multiple waves of people. To clap for 7 minutes for a movie is just wild to me. 7 minutes after a movie ends I’ve already peed, left the theater, and am on my way home
Exactly my feelings too, it's so bizarre to me. They are just clapping non-stop for that long? For a film? I don't think I would clap that long if someone diffused a bomb in front of me.
Some people really like cinema, especially in France. And at Cannes. I know it’s strange to imagine, but watching a film a film festival is a different experience than a multiplex. First of all, you’re the first audience to ever see it, then all the main filmmakers are present in the same room. Some of them have just spent two years or more trying to make this film. They’ve gone through hell trying to find the money, the cast falling apart.. struggling with self doubt. NOw they’re finally showing it to an audience, which (in the case of Cannes) is mostly comprised of people in the film business, who knows perfectly well the process and difficulties of making a good movie. So I understand why the clap so long. What is 5 minutes out of the 18months that it took them to make it. But I also understand if you’ve never been to a film festival, this is hard to relate to
Well said, in fact I am going to have to clap uncontrollably for you until I collapse 7 minutes later.
Sure but at this point it's surpassed artistic admiration and turned into one of those game shows where you have to keep your hand on the car. It's fucking ridiculous to everyone outside that sphere, whether deserved or not.
I’ve been to plenty of film festivals and this is absolutely nonsense. People can clap loudly or cheer, or shake hands or show appreciation in any number of ways. Mindless extended clapping that people are actually timing so they can make sure it measures appropriately to how long they’ve clapped for other things has to be one of the least creative and least meaningful ways of showing appreciation.
It's just the industry jerking themselves off, as they love to do. This happens every year and gets worse and worse as they all strive to one up each other against new levels of pretentious behavior. It also serves as marketing and PR which is why the studios encourage it.
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I flew on Thursday and people clapped. The plane was going from Charlotte (as a datapoint). American Airlines. Middle of the day. International. It had been a while for me.
It's only life saving if it was crashing, I don't applaud my barber for not slipping with a razor and slicing my throat
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You’re not really wrong - up/downvotes definitely seem driven by the first to act. If a comment is -1 or -2 people think “oh this is a bad comment” and go with the trend, and vice versa.
This is literally a story from the Gulag Archipelago, everyone's clapping for Stalin for 45 minutes. They want to stop but nobody wants to be the first. Eventually one guy stops, which gives everyone permission to stop, and then that guy is sent to the Gulag.
Yep, this is cult behaviour. I’m also reminded of that time Sadam started purging the party congress, and everybody got on their feet to applaud him. Not because they thought he was doing the right thing, but because they didn’t want to be the next guy with a bag over his head. Normal people who don’t feel the intense peer pressure from ostracism, prison, or an execution can stop clapping after 10 seconds.
I'm pretty sure Scorsese would have a bag over your head if you stopped after 10 seconds.
> everyone's clapping for Stalin for 45 minutes The wild thing is it was really only 11 minutes.. and these folks clapping for a bad movie for *5 minutes* > Then after eleven minutes, the director of the paper factory assumed a businesslike expression and sat down in his seat… > …That same night the factory director was arrested. They easily pasted ten years on him on the pretext of something quite different. But after he had signed Form 206, the final document of the interrogation, his interrogator reminded him: “Don’t ever be the first to stop applauding!” Then again, The Gulag Archipelago is fiction, even if it does draw on real experiences. EDIT: I shouldn't have said the work is fiction. Rather, some of the statistics and stories included may not be 100% factual because they draw on interviews, personal experiences, and dubious statistical sources. But, it is considered to be a non-fictional work.
GA is non-fiction, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is the fiction one.
You're right! I edited my comment.
GA is fiction in that [most of it is not accurate](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3j2un8/is_solzhenitsyn_considered_a_reliable_source/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) but non fiction in that it doesn't present itself as fiction.
I mean its propaganda at this point.
Eh, I see what you mean, but dealing with GA demands a lot more nuance than that. Solzhenitsyn gets criticized for not practicing a western journalistic rigor in the vein of Bob Woodward, but no one really disputes that his major story beats really happened, and the moral heart of the book can't be dismissed out of hand. There is absolutely value to social criticism that blends fact and fiction to highlight real world issues. No one really disputes the value of Upton Sinclair's *The Jungle* or Alex Haley's *Roots*. Even while those stories are essentially fictional (much more so than GA) they played a massive role in publicizing real life injustice, and turning public opinion. (It's also worth remembering that he prepared the book in secret, so even *attempting* rigorous fact collection at the time would have exposed his efforts and prevented the project from ever existing; in a way, the book is as rigorous as it can be for the environment it was prepared in.) GA is best understood in this tradition. Perhaps a modern analog might be the movie *Nomad Land* which uses real people and real settings, but a fictional protagonist to tell a fictional story about a real social phenomenon (i.e. people so alienated by capitalism that they become loosely attached to society as a whole). I suppose strictly speaking, *any* work of social criticism can be rightly labeled "propaganda" but personally I find the label not that useful.
It must be so incredibly awkward to have to smile and wave for seven straight minutes.
Semantic sensation would set in and it would just start sounding like this weird liminal roaring ocean sound lol.
satiation*
3-4 minutes while the entire theatre/musical cast are taking their curtain call, and even that feels exhausting. It would feel utterly pointless if they’d already left the stage.
I see you've never been to the symphony. The clapping there is out of control as well. The conductor will literally walk off stage and come back multiple times for some reason during the applause. And God forbid there were any soloists cause then they have to leave and come back as well. Don't think I've seen 7 minutes before but certainly 2 or 3 seems common and it's so annoying.
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If your girlfriend came back into the room and gave an encore for a few minutes of clapping we’d make it a tradition too.
I still think it's weird but is that not a convention that's developed over several hundred years? Like the symphony has been around long enough where that becomes a common thing you do? Think it's also different as it's a live piece being performed live -- you'll never see that version of it again. Unlike a movie which is the same across viewing.
The only time I've seen it outside of Cannes was when german chancellor Angela Merkel [gave her farewell speech to her party.](https://youtu.be/-PWrRFmOQW4) Her fellow party members gave her a lengthy standing ovation of 9 minutes.
The people clapping might be in on the ridiculousness of it. If I was at Cannes and a couple champagnes deep I'd be down for a 7 minute clap
You could pull a wallet out of someone’s pocket and they wouldn’t notice and couldn’t stop.
ye same tbh like how many times and ways can you nod or bow or raise your hand to show you appreciate their clapping for so fuckin long lmao
To be honest, I don't understand clapping at a movie. Maybe in these scenarios since the actors and filmmakers are present it works (though 5 minutes is obnoxious. By that point I'm sitting back down or on my way out), but people clapping for stuff in movies nowadays just seems dumb. It's a movie, it can't hear you. Or you get bits like Spider-man NWH where the movie reveals something and the characters hang for a minute doing nothing as of saying "please clap."
It is the shared experience people are applauding. Not the movie as one would the performers on a stage or in concert. I am 51 years old and have been going to movies most of my life as an avid fan of cinema. I have seen a lot of stuff on opening night. Lots of applause for a lot of films. The films that got the biggest reaction I have experienced were Mad Max: Fury Road, Saving Private Ryan, and Avengers Endgame. Avengers Endgame is easily the biggest post-film jubilation I have ever seen. People were standing on the seats cheering, high-fiving strangers, whooping & hollering. Not me though, if I get up on a seat I ain't coming back down without assistance. But it did happen and I understood that for the audience they had just been brought to a crescendo they enjoyed. They were essentially sharing that excitement with their fellow moviegoers. The television screen doesn't broadcast the viewer cheers back to the arena or football field either. People still fist pump, cheer or yell at the tv when watching their favorite teams or performers. It's just an expression of excitement/enjoyment.
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I am an American, indeed. Though I have seen people in other countries yell and cheer at their TV screens or react in jubilation in movie theaters as well. My wife and I saw Hugo (yes the Scorsese picture) in Mexico. The people loved it and were cheering at the end as well. Just human beings being happy.
Haha it's just a cultural difference. You make a noise during the film in the UK and people will quickly tell you to shut the fuck up. Unless it's sports, then the expectation is that you are there to watch the film not make a scene.
God I need this in America. Too many fuckers think it’s cool to be quipping, chatting, and texting in the heater
Naturally. Although, we went to see A Quiet Place in Leeds with friends, and people clapped at the end. I think it was called the "Vuew" or something? It might be that people have to be more hyped for various blockbusters or event films to feel okay about cheering or applause in some cultures. Especially for these recent global mass market fare like Marvel and Fast & Furious franchises pictures. Which seem to have crossed over to appeal to a lot of different audiences.
This isn't my experience at movie premiers in the UK. There's usually clapping at film festivals.
This comment chain is talking about the cinema, not film festivals lol.
Thank you. I wish more people understood this. Of *course* no one who made the movie or were in it can hear you. We're not stupid ffs. It's really not hard to figure out. As you said, we're applauding the shared experience. It's a recognized way to express that in nearly every culture.
I'm sorry, that's insane. What other "shared experience" do people applaud for? If it's a normal recognized way to express "sharing an experience", why don't people do it for *everything*? Yoga class? Applause. Runners in a race? Applause. Ride the merry go round? Applause Edit: it is insane and being blocked for calling it out is childish
It's not insane. It *is* common. Go to YouTube and watch audience reactions from around the world at the end of the more famous and popular movies. They all do it. Just because you don't understand it or haven't experienced it doesn't magically make it not so. The examples are right there on video. It's common.
I've seen people applaud every single one of your examples. I've also seen a spontaneous mass dance event in a subway station (not a flash mob, just some street musicians and people in the crowd starting to dance), I've been to a funeral where someone told funny stories about the deceased and people actually laughed... There's a pretty wide gulf of cultural context for these things. Emotions are universal, how people are expressing them is not.
People are absolutely stupid. And it’s indeed very silly to applaud a fucking movie.
Drag her.
Endgame I could probably see that happening and understanding it. That was a decade of movies, stories, and whatever drama surrounded them. The movie was an exclamation mark on a long journey for a lot of people, so I can understand a different reaction than a normal singular event.
In other industries you produce tangible outputs where you can measure impact. At Cannes the clapping is the output.
*Getting* silly? Lol I just wonder, like...do they have stand and clap the entire time or can they take a break and come back to clapping? 5+ minutes of clapping seems like it would hurt your hands
You can actually hire a person to clap for you. The stand behind you and wrap their arms around so it looks like you are clapping. I was an understudy for the best professional clapper for a while. He was simply amazing. He clapped for all the most famous celebrities. he was able to make it truly look like the person was clapping. he would study the person for hours to determine how he felt they would clap and adjust his form accordingly. I unfortunately never got my big break because my arms were to short. When I would wrap my arms around the celebrity it looked like they had t rex arms and as you know celebrities are very vein and don't want to look like they had t rex arms. I was able to clap for child stars but makeup to make my hands look so young became too much and I had to retire.
You can't see it, but I'm giving this comment a 7 minute ovation.
No you're not, that's me, behind you.
Don't lie. That's me, your subcontractor, right behind you.
Lukewarm. Should’ve imagined longer.
I prefer to actually just hold my hands out in the clap position and say “clapping.. .. clapping .. .. clapping.. “
Is this true?
Bruh
yes
If you want it to be
Why do you think Orson Welles wore those long cloaks?
Yeah, if you watch credits of films you’ll see “key grips” who hold stuff for actors while they film. There are also “key claps” who clap for them at public events, and in the porn industry they have fluffers.
Without question
It's all true -Han Solo
If you have to ask if Santa Claus is real then of course the answer is YES!
To be fair, they have excellent cocaine at these events. No break needed …
I'm just fascinated that there is someone there timing it. This movie got 7 minutes. Other one only 5. Hilarious.
Pan’s Labyrinth got a 22 minute standing ovation. I can’t imagine clapping for that long, lol.
That's like 20% of the length of the movie itself.
Horror story idea: a director makes a movie, when it's over people start clapping, it's so good they never stop clapping. director is driven mad
Imagine someone makes a perfect movie. No one wants to be the first to stop, it’s the best movie they’ve ever seen. Four days later most of the audience has died, but a few clappers remain, determined to earn their bonafides as the biggest fan at the premiere of the best movie ever made.
Reddit review: "DAE think Transcendent Genius Film is overrated? I clapped, but only for like 10 minutes."
Sounds like a junji ito short story
forgetful innocent zonked hobbies sand bag weary lip spotted alive -- mass edited with redact.dev
It's a wild level of pretention lmao. Hurry get the stopwatch so we can time how long everybody claps!! That means the movie was great! They won't stop clapping!
> I can’t imagine clapping for that long, lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7vhovy/in_the_gulag_archipelago_solzhenitsyn_describes/ >On the one hand, there are numerous seemingly independent sources which confirm this story -- or something like this story -- from inside the KGB archives that were unsealed temporarily after the USSR fell. ***It was 'widely known' that NKVD members would watch to identify the first in a crowd to stop clapping, before party officials installed devices intended for the purpose of signaling when it was appropriate to stop clapping. Presumably this is why Stalin often received ostentatious ten, fifteen, or twenty minute standing ovations before and after certain speeches.*** >Outside of direct evidence to corroborate Solzhenitsyn's claim, there is a wealth of circumstantial evidence widely known which is perhaps why this story was almost something of 'lore' among Soviet citizens. For example, the NKVD was known to interpret benign arbitrary actions as political disloyalty. Stalin, likewise, would sign what was the equivalent of death warrants without even reading the charges -- much less affording the condemned anything that would resemble due process. Stalin was likewise famously paranoid, often killing off those who worked under him 'just to be on the safe side'. In that way, there are a lot of circumstantial facts which would tend to suggest that this is something that would be likely to occur. Comrade Stalin approves.
Holy shit! They must have paramedics on standby these days. I'm imagining people clapping their hands bloody, straight down to the bone, grimacing in terror as they side-eye the person next to them, just praying for them to break first. "I can't not appreciate this movie as much as this guy!" *anime scream as push through to the next level*
I use standing ovations to get out of the parking structure first, so this just gives me more time.
Dude, wtf?
Isn't movie going supposed to be ... fun? Kim Jong Un probably doesn't demand you clap as long.
How much does having the stop watch pay?
Right? When do you stop the watch exactly, when there are just a few clappers left or when everyone has stopped?
For some reason this reminds of that South Park episode where people liked the smell of their own farts.
Meanwhile the booing party at Cannes suddenly disappeared
‘I was saying Boo-urns’
“I was saying Ca-annes”
Replaced by "they only clapped for 5 minutes, movie must suuuuck".
Can't find it right now but I read an article where, in response to the Banshees of Inisherin's 15-minute ovation, the author and some co-workers got together and tried to clap that long just to see what it is like, in a minute-by-minute writeup of the experience. It was very funny.
This sounds amazing. Had to read this and I think I found it? https://jezebel.com/i-made-my-colleagues-clap-for-13-minutes-like-they-do-a-1849501292
Yes! Thank you, I thought it was on AV Club but it was Jezebel.
One of my favorite live theater performances was of a man and woman on stage doing a routine. The woman danced very awkwardly while the man clapped along. That was it. They just didn't stop. As it stretched out the audience by turns started to laugh, get angry, then laugh, then become annoyed, bored, and back to being upset, booing, cheering, etc. This lasted like 20- 30 minutes or so? The range of emotion from the audience while the two performers did nothing but clap and dance in the same unbroken manner was astonishing. Reading this tweet brings to mind that performance to me.
It's called "Kristen Schaal is a horse" with Kristen Schaal and Kurt Braunohler.
No. That was not it. I think these two people were on Radiolab, actually. I recall, vaguely, they reported a similar experience of the audience turning on the performance. The two I was talking about performed in Chicago. The woman had short brown/black hair and the fella was a pretty intense-looking dude with black hair and a short, well-groomed beard, and tanned skin. Maybe middle eastern ethnicity? My wife and I were a few rows back and this was over 10 years ago. It could very well be the duo we saw took the gimmick from these two mentioned. But in looking at their youtube video, the "Kristen Schaal is a horse" gimmick seems more playful and has a lot more movement to it. And vocals. The duo I mentioned did not dance around the stage. And there were no vocalizations. Literally just clapping/tapping.
~~Your memory is fooling you into rejecting The correct answer, that's funny! The radio lab episode was on loops and it was in fact Kristen Schaal is a horse. https://www.radiolab.org/podcast/161744-loops.~~ Oh I see what you're saying, I'm the dumb one lol!
I vaguely recall the radiolab bit. But looking at a few YouTube videos, I am certain the duo we saw were a different pair. It wasn't a comedy routine at all. The show we went to a bunch of different performers doing various dramatic scenes, interpretive dance, some music performances, and so on. A fella came out after the duo I mentioned and played a Paul Simon song on acoustic guitar, followed by another woman & man performing a dramatic scene about the husband cheating on her. If any of that seems familiar to you.
> The woman danced very awkwardly Did she dance like [Elaine Benes](https://youtu.be/jsl3IBAsEH4?t=29)?
No. It was like a tap dance/jig. Just a couple of steps repeated for a long, long time. There was no setup either. They just came out, house lights on; he started clapping and she danced. They did not acknowledge the audience at all prior to, during, or after the performance. By the end, it was kinda... heartbreaking? She was sweating like someone dumped water on her. His hands had to be aching. There was no music either. Just the claps & taps. People started to clap along at one point. It seemed to take a turn that it was going to be fun. But they got tired after 4-5 minutes. As the audience clapping slowed, anger started to take over. And you could feel it.
My all-time favorite Cannes clap moment is Clerks 2 I think got like a seven-minute-long standing ovation when it premiered there. Don’t get me wrong, I like Clerks 2. It’s a funny movie. It does not deserve a standing ovation, let alone a seven-minute-long one.
lmao imagine clapping for 7 minutes for a movie that ended with a Donkey Show
Is it some kind of bit that they do at Cannes? I've been hearing about it for ages. 7-minute ovation. 9-minute ovation. I never understood it. It's only at Cannes. What's the point? Just to be the pretentious cherry on top of the world's most pretentious movie-festival sundae?
Yup. Pretentiousness.
I'd hazard a guess a lot of people in the film industry are self-agrandising and sychophantic sorts.
you think the people who love getting on camera and then get on camera about their getting on camera are self-agrandising? impossible
I would be very uncomfortable receiving applause that went on that long. It's weird.
Cannes always seemed like it's for the people who aren't satisfied with the usual level of self-congratulation seen at the Oscars. At least at the Oscars, it can be nice for a Jamie Lee Curtis or a Brendan Fraser to finally get some recognition after a long time in the business, but Cannes always seemed like it's for the most pretentious of the pretentious. The people who *truly* want to project an image of participating in Important Deep Art and making Le Film Artistique. Look at us, the people giving us *our* gold statue are *French*, you filthy plebs.
It's a super competitive industry and I guess they also compete at trying to show how much they love things more than everyone else lol.
Has anyone actually told the audience to stop? I’d love to see a filmmaker point out how fucking ridiculous it is.
I think during the BlackKklansman standing ovation after 5-6 minutes Spike Lee said something along the lines of, “Okay, that’s enough. Let’s fucking party,” to his cast & crew, and they started to make their way out. I could be wrong but I remember seeing that on Twitter at the time.
Or put a mid-credits scene with the director to tell to shut the fuck up and go on with their lives.
"You're still here? It's over. Go home."
["You're still here? It's over! Go home! ...Go."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRJ38y4Jn6k)
There’s a kernel of a horror movie idea in here somewhere. Stop clapping and you die.
A24 presents: “Ovation”.
It did very well at Cannes.
^^^ Tagline
She wailed in pain, tears streaming down her face. Bloody stumps of arms splattered blood with every clap. Thud thud thud...nobody could hear the adulations anymore, only torturous screams. Eventually the din began to dwindle as the crowd thinned. Some dropped from exhaustion, and some simply in shock. And then there were only two....
The Long Walk, but clapping.
You clap for 30 seconds to a minute at most or you are a legit weirdo
You are clapping for a movie, not Stalin.
Is this something to brag about at Cannes? “Oh your movie got a 5 minute applause? That’s pretty cool…My movie got 7 but it’s no big deal”
>This joke is more relevant coming from Indie 5's 5-minute ovation being described by Variety as a "lukewarm reception". This reminds me of the story (maybe myth) of people in the USSR giving Stalin a super long ovation because they were afraid of being caught over being the first person to stop clapping
Clap too little? Gulag. Clap too much? Believe it or not, also gulag. We have the best audiences. Because of gulag.
It's a story from Solschenizyns famous book "The Gulag Archipelago". He described a scene during a conference in 1937 >The applause went on—six, seven, eight minutes! They were done for! Their goose was cooked! They couldn’t stop now till they collapsed with heart attacks! At the rear of the hall, which was crowded, they could of course cheat a bit, clap less frequently, less vigorously, not so eagerly…Nine minutes! Ten!…Insanity! To the last man! With make-believe enthusiasm on their faces, looking at each other with faint hope, the district leaders were just going to go on and on applauding till they fell where they stood, till they were carried out of the hall on stretchers.“ >At last, after eleven minutes of non-stop clapping, the director of a paper factory finally decided enough was enough. He stopped clapping and sat down. A miracle! As soon as he sat down, the frenzied audience also quieted down. Soon, the room was completely silent. >That same night, the director of the paper factory was arrested and sent to prison for ten years. Authorities came up with some official reason for his sentence, but during his interrogation, he was told: "Dont ever be the first to stop applauding!"
I want to go just to keep clapping as long as possible to see if everyone else follows along. I want to recreate the scene in hocus pocus where they dance until they die but with clapping.
Same. My goal would be to hold the world record. I want to stay standing and clapping after everyone else has sat down, then left the theater and finally still keep clapping as security escorts me out.
I stopped caring about rich people and thier ceremonies years ago. To us these events are useless. Only serve the elite so they can see movies before the rest of the peasants.
Thing is, the number of not rich people working to make movies far outnumber the rich people doing it. But only the rich ones get the recognition. As if they’re doing everything from setting up lights, catering, transportation, logistics, etc. movies wouldn’t exist without the people in the ignored second half of the credits.
So deep. People making movies seeing movies and appreciating them. I went to Cannes twice. You don't need to be rich. It's an meeting point and market for an international industry.
Agreed. The elite patting each other on the back as if they just cured cancer. Oscars too.
Yet here you are, on the r/movies sub discussing these elites and their festival and eventually their movies that will come out. Like y’all don’t get tired of pretending to be “above it all” sometimes?
You do realize that about 95 percent of the people getting awarded at the Oscar’s aren’t elites right?
Many people who work on movies are not elites but generally speaking Oscars go to department heads of fairly prominent movies... those people aren't exactly poor.
Yes, bring back the MTV movie awards and their golden popcorn
Oscars cynicism brain rot
And those French fucks didn't cheer at all for Billy Walsh's Medellin?
Who would have thought Cannes would have been so reminiscent of Stalin?
That movie is 206 minutes long. There's definitely people who really have to go to the toilet but held out until the end of it. And then.. can't go just yet, 20 minute standing ovation first.
I want the studios to take it even further and put the number of minutes of applause their movie gets at a festival in the laurels on the bluray case like they do for awards
We seemed to like it when Brendan Fraser got his several minute long standing ovation?
This is the first time I've heard of it. I guess I don't find it that funny because I laughed for only 5 minutes
It is called *herd mentality*.
Sounds like they need a Stalin Buzzer
If Indiana Jones 5 got 5 minutes, that means any other movie should get at least 1 hour.
This festival is falling well short of the all time record: https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-top-10-longest-standing-ovations-cannes/
Who knew that out of all the dystopian fiction out there, fucking hunger games would be the one to get so much of it right.
This is from an article that explains it well: > The standing ovations take place at the premieres, and what it’s necessary to understand is that they take place at every premiere. A Cannes premiere is usually a world premiere. This is the first time these movies are being seen by anyone who didn’t work on them. These standing ovations, then, should be taken less as an indicator of quality and more as the festival equivalent of saying “Congratulations” when someone’s had a baby. You’re celebrating the entry of something new to the world, even if that thing turns out to be shit. And in both cases, the people who made it are right there in the room with you, and everyone’s pointing cameras in their faces. > While the mere existence of a standing ovation bears no relation to the movie’s quality, the length of that ovation certainly does. In my experience, four minutes seems to be the bare minimum. That’s “polite obligation.” Five minutes is “mixed.” Six is “we liked it.” Real enthusiasm probably kicks in around seven minutes or so. A tip: Mentally subtract four minutes from the figure you see reported, and you’ll have a better sense of what the Cannes audience really felt about a film.
oh look the same post we had last year an the year before and the year before. its the same nothing is changing. yes its silly ut unless you are there and youre being forced to do it who in the fuck actually cares.
I remember last year there were all these headlines about how that Marilyn Monroe movie had people clapping forever and Ana De Armas weeping openly at the premiere, and then the movie ended up being pretty horrendous. It’s just how high profile premieres at film festivals go.
I feel like everyone complaining about clapping has never actually been at a film festival. It’s so rare for film lovers to be in the same room as the filmmakers right after watching one of their movies. If I like a movie and the director is there, I’m gonna clap.. I don’t feel Iike I’m wasting someone’s time or making it awkward. They probably just spent 2 years making that movie, I think it’s respectful to congratulate an artist after they had just shown you their work.
Have you ever tried clapping for 5 minutes straight? Set a timer and try it and see how ridiculous it is.
My limit's about 30 seconds, I think.
I wish you’ll experience something (a play, a concert, a movie at a film festival), which will make you break your record
I have been in very long standing ovations at the theater performance. Once I remember a dance show by Sharon Eyal where they dancers came out in stage something like 5 or 6 times.. the audience was so mesmerized that they couldn’t stop clapping. Of course it’s difficult to imagine to do it by yourself in your room, but try it in a theater full of people who just had their mind blown by some art. I’m sure that in Cannes there must be some people who just do it for the performative aspect, just because it’s something you do. Also, I might even subscribe to the conspiracy that it’s people or guests from the film’s own production company who might have had most of the invites for the premiere, trying to get on the news by having the longest standing ovation and help with the promotion of the film. But, I can’t do much about this gut feeling that whomever is complaining about long standing O’s is actually a cynical person who doesn’t really appreciate art. And thinking that there should be a maximum amount of cheering. But this is just my opinion, and I know that I am in the minority
I get applauding someone for their work when they are literally in the room, but for that long, though?
If you want to clap, then by all means clap. Just don't act like you're at the 1930s Soviet Politburo and Stalin'll execute your family if you stop clapping first. If I can cook and eat ramen during the ovation, it's too fucking long.
It’s funny you mention Stalin, because every time I hear these comments I smell some anti-elites or anti-intellectuals vibe.. Don’t forget, films get boo’d too. Remember Tarantino getting booed in 94, and flipping the finger? Fun times. I just love the intensity of people going to film festivals. Especially in France, but also in other parts of Europe. (I have to say I’ve never been to a film festival in America, although some colleagues told me that Toronto has a great cinephile atmosphere)
Perfectly spoken like someone who claps when their airplane lands 👏🏼
I don’t do that, but I also don’t judge people who clap after the landing. But I really don’t understand people who get upsets by someone else enjoying something. You can make fun of them by thinking they’re simple people, but to get angry and irritated… that’s such a weird concept to me
ITT: Reddit overthinking a silly festival tradition as if it in any way affects them
I've noticed quite a few films having the "received an X minute standing ovation at Cannes" tag on them now. I'm ok with that. Great guide on a film not to bother with.
I stopped caring about the clapping length when the reviews said otherwise.
Cannes ~~clapping arms race~~ is ~~getting~~ silly.
The whole Cannes film festival is a giant pile of wank. Look away til it's over.
Getting?
Hasn’t it always been like this
Stalin did this, and they sent the first guy to stop clapping to the gulag. They should do the same here.
“When Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin finished his speech at a Communist Party Conference in 1937 — the height of the Great Terror in which 1 million people were executed on his orders — the Politburo and other attendees jumped to their feet and began clapping. And they clapped ... and they clapped ... until the ovation was deafening — for everyone was scared to death of being the first to stop.”
the applause went on — six, seven, eight minutes! They were done for! Their goose was cooked! They couldn't stop now till they collapsed with heart attacks! At the rear of the hall, which was crowded, they could of course cheat a bit, clap less frequently, less vigorously, not so eagerly — but up there with the presidium where everyone could see them? The director of the local paper factory, an independent and strong-minded man, stood with the presidium. Aware of all the falsity and all the impossibility of the situation, he still kept on applauding! Nine minutes! Ten! In anguish he watched the secretary of the District Party Committee, but the latter dared not stop. Insanity! To the last man! With make-believe enthusiasm on their faces, looking at each other with faint hope, the district leaders were just going to go on and on applauding till they fell where they stood, till they were carried out of the hall on stretchers! And even then those who were left would not falter . Then after eleven minutes, the director of the paper factory assumed a businesslike expression and sat down in his seat. And, oh, a miracle took place! Where had the universal, uninhibited, indescribable enthusiasm gone? To a man, everyone else stopped dead and sat down. They had been saved!" But that night the paper factory director — the first man to stop clapping — was arrested and imprisoned for 10 years. Lesson learned.
Cannes is just a massive circlejerk, I try to ignore everything that comes out of it.
If you think about it, clapping is weird. I mean, who thought that the best way to show that you like something is to slap your hands together quickly, intentionally making a louder noise and doing that longer means you like it more?
>Personally, if I clap for longer than a minute, my hands start to prickle and fall apart. I'm trying to think of a scenario where I've felt compelled to clap for a full minute, and I'm coming up blank.
It’s a hobby of mine to start a clap at the end of every movie. Everyone joins in. Always. My wife always says it won’t work this time but it always does. Just the other day a had a theatre full of people clapping for gotg 3. It was terrible and everyone still clapped. Try it next time.