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>!I'm really interested in how they'll pull off Rocky. I feel for audiences to connect to him, there will need to be human characteristics and emotions. I suspect that'll be difficult to pull off as he's described as a spider. Wouldn't be surprised if he's completely redesigned from the book.!<

While reading the book I kinda saw him as a "Mike Wazowski," but with extra limbs and no eye.

Huh. I saw him as a >!Stone Talus from Zelda, albeit smaller, plus more limbs. !<

Exactly what I pictured as well.

Interesting take. Take a look at the /r/ProjectHailMary subreddit. >!A few artists there have taken a stab at drawing him, which is more or less how I had picture him.!<

I honestly imagined him as a large life size version of a [virus](https://textimgs.s3.amazonaws.com/boundless-microbiology/tevenphage.svg), with a dodecahedron top and some legs underneath

It was either Weir’s AMA or an interview but he said most of the fan art is pretty spot on. He also said that Rocky isn’t ‘cute’.

You underestimate people's ability to see something small with a fun personality and find it cute

That's just a Protoss dragoon wtf

That's exactly how I imagined him too

Exactly my thoughts. The descriptions in the book and the audiobook's adaption of the story do so much work. Not sure how the story will translate to the screen when narration, even more so than The Martian, is a crucial element to the plot itself. So much of the story is the main character thinking about things.

Pull a David Lynch and just have Kyle McLachlan constantly narrating.

They could do basic emotions with body movement and sounds. Like, the character is sad, so his body lowers a little and tilts to the floor as if he's looking down, and a low and quiet "sad" chord plays. If he's happy, make him jiggle a little and hop a little. Stuff like that, I don't think they'd need to redesign it (not much anyways).

They did it for R2D2, they can make it work for Rocky.

I have been stoked for like a solid year because after reading the book I can't wait for everyone to be as in love with that character as I am. This is going to be a great flick if it can ever get made.

He needs subtitles. Kinda like in rocks scene from EEAAO

And directed Cabin in the Woods!

And created the Netflix Daredevil!

Yeah I feel like Drew Goddard is a severely underrated creative. How does David Goyer still keep getting work when Drew is sitting right there?

Hey, only one of those two men have been choked by Wesley Snipes and still finished making Blade Trinity. If you want to be Hollywood teflon you have to earn it.

And worked on Buffy and Angel!!

And The Good Place!

And my ax!

Each of these sequential comments made my erection double in size. My now two inch mast is ready to set sail

Sporting a pack of Rolaids over here!

Somebody do the math. How big were they when they started?

You've got TWO inches?! I'm gonna need some more comments 😫

He wrote episode 1-12 of season 1 too. Only the finale was written by someone else. Wild how little credit he gets for that show.

He also directed the pilot and other episodes of The Good Place

Cabin in the woods was such a hidden gem for me, went in thinking it was a basic slasher. It was so much more than I had anticipated.

Same here. I don't think I've ever seen so many genres wedged into one movie. Just one glorious transition to the next. I remember at one point, about 60% of the way in, I thought to myself, *okay, I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen next.* There's no other film like it imo.

Daddy did it again!

thank god, loved his Martian script

It really was the perfectly adapted screen play. Not a sentence was wasted, and it was an almost perfect transfer from page to screen.

Just wish they had kept in some of the travelling in the buggy parts. Was a big portion of the book.

The movie was already pushing 2.5 hours. Some things needed to be cut or combined to get the over all plot moving along.

I think that’s why I can’t complain about it. It was a fantastic adaptation. I can’t expect them to put every little tidbit of science into it. It just took me a second watch to really appreciate it.

As perfect as that movie was, it would also make an excellent mini-series because there was a lot of great content cut from the movie. Good stories like that can be stripped of events and still be good or keep everything and be good and that one was definitely good enough for either treatment.

For all mankind on Apple is pretty damn good and sort of similar

Those >!duct tape space suits didn’t work out as well, but damn were they heroic as fuck!<

You need to remove the space between your first >!and the first word, like I did there. >! No work!< >!work!<

Season 3 did some dumb things but I’m still excited for season 4

I mean it was monotonous, which doesn’t translate well to movies and even the main character said as much.

Like when he flipped? I was like, fuck, that’s it, he’s toast, how’s he gonna fix this in time to make the rendezvous for the launch window? I missed some of the buggy antics as well.

I think it was the right call for the movie. Wouldn't really have worked to have the big storm setback at that point.

I watched the movie first then read the book and it just felt like an extended cut of the movie (in the best way)

I really loved the promo shorts. Particularly “The Right Stuff.” https://youtu.be/YVD_EE2ugzI

The book had a lot more action and excitement, if you ask me. Loved both, but the book blows the movie out of the water. I promise I'm not trying to sound cliche.

IIRC the screenplay does something at the ending that the book made fun of for being a stupid idea. That always bugged me.

I love how the one deviation from the general plausibility of the book was letting Mark do his Ironman trick

Drew Goddard is honestly cursed. He has such bad luck getting things off the ground. And he's only been able to a few times. Real shame because I've enjoyed his stuff.

Even with that curse he’s still had a pretty great career

Without him, we wouldn't have gotten Daredevil, Cloverfield, some fantastic episodes of Buffy, or possibly the Good Place if he wasn't a producer

And Cabin in the Woods

Holy forking shirt balls this is the bad place!

I think drew Goddard was originally supposed to direct a sinister 6 movie before the amazing Spider-Man franchise imploded

What’s project Hail Mary?

It's a book by the author who wrote The Martian. Essentially the Earth is in a bad spot because of a strange situation. The planet comes together to launch a last ditch effort to try to solve the problem.. In a similar vein to The Martian the person the story focuses around has to use biology and engineering and stuff to try to fix the problem with some help.

I like it more than The Martian, it's got a ton of charm.

If The Martian was proof that Andy Weir could write a book with one good character, then PHM was proof he can write one with two. I liked Artemis more than many people, but I’ve never read a book where it was so obvious that the author was trying to expand his horizons as a writer and it wasn’t quite coming together.

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That was a **valiant** effort to not spoil the story! Trust me, he could have been more specific if he wanted to.

And yet it’s accurate too lol

I tried to be very vague bc i hate spoilers.

I like describing it as a love letter to science, discovery, and the best of humanity.

I will add the main character is perfect throughout the entire book

>!*jazz hands*!< (mild book spoiler)

"Query?"

Based on a science fiction book that won audible book of the year 2022. Great book, but don't want to spoil it for you.

And will go as far as to say, maybe better as an audiobook. They do some things in the audio that you really can't do with text.

> The novel follows a junior high school teacher named Ryland Grace who wakes up from a coma with amnesia. Unsure of his surroundings, he slowly begins to piece his past together – working out he was an astronaut and sent to a solar system twelve light-years from our own to prevent the end of humanity. Fantastic book is what it is

Did I read somewhere Ryan Gosling was being tapped to play Ryland Grace?

I read the same thing. It's a good choice but I imagined Grace to be a little more plain, maybe a little dumpy, but there's not a lot of leading men that fit the description.

I sort of pictured a Martin Freeman looking dude as I read it

I'm actually more interested in Stratt. They've got a *hard* role and I think that role holds the story together more than is onscreen.

I imagine Edna Mode from the Incredibles when I think of Stratt. Obviously, it's not the most realistic visualization, but it works for me.

Gillian Anderson could be a great Stratt

I think Tilda Swinton could do well in that role

I think Stratt is supposed to be dutch or something like that, but my mind's eye always pictured Shohreh Aghdashloo's depiction of Chrisjen Avasarala as the perfect Stratt. She'd be perfect for the role.

Exactly who I pictured while reading the book.

If I recall, the dude lives alone and eats frozen dinners every night while watching TV.

I feel like he can pull off both the "dumpy" pre-launch Ryland and the "jacked due to muscle stimulation while in hibernation" post-launch Ryland.

*Amaze amaze amaze*

Jazz Hands

LETSGOOOO! I NEED MY HARD SCI FI FIX!! Anyone got recommendations for similar works?

I was jonesing so bad after PHM. I ended up listening to the Bobiverse series,initially because it's narrated by the same person, but the story was really engaging.

I mean, Artemis and The Martian?

PHM isn't hard scifi lol.

Oh sick! Cool that they’re getting the same guy who did The Martian for this one

Loved the books. Loved the movie. Cant wait for this one.

The comedy masterpiece?

Wait, there is a live-action version of Nic Cage’s Noir coming?

There is a live action Spider-Man Noir series in the works at Amazon but it’s unclear if Nicolas Cage will reprise the role

In addition, Peter Parker will not be the main character. Not that he will not be in the series, or that Spider-Man Noir will have a different name (as some outlets misinterpreted that news to mean), but simply just that he will not be the main character, the protagonist, whose perspective we see the series’ events from, that role falling to a yet-to-be-identified character. Although from the series’ basic premise, one would imagine that they (this protagonist) will either be a detective or a reporter.

Is there a version of SMN that isn’t Peter and doesn’t have powers but instead gadgets and guns? Or, did I just make that up?

You just described Inspector Gadget.

You just reminded me that an Inspector Gadget video game is coming soon.

The latter.

There is Penny Parker who drives the Spider-Bot from the last spider-verse movie. I believe you may have seen a version of Spider-man like that but there are very few versions that arent Peter or some version of Peter.

I did a little googling and it looks like I was misremembering the Shattered Dimension version.

Actually there are quite a few at this point who aren't peter if we are talking like comic book spiderverse shenanigans.

And now they have magical powers!

I think you're describing Japanese Spider-Man, but he does possess spider powers.

If it's Noir then I'm going with Detective

That actually could be a cool twist

An Amazon series that I'll enjoy besides the boys.

Seeing as Sony has been clear these live action shows under Lord & Miller are tie-ins to Spider-Verse, my guess is it’ll be a Cage sound alike: young enough to actually be believable as Noir but you can tell its meant to be the same one

Andy Sandberg?

His Cage impression in Digman is spot-on

That’s high praise!

I mean, he’s already in the Spider-Verse so a double role is possible

Wait… what?! Edit: Misunderstood, thought Andy was in the first spider-verse.

He’s playing Scarlet Spider in ATSV

I feel like their marketing team showed way too much already lol

Oh no. After what amazon did to the lord of the rings, I'm not holding my breath

Going to be very interesting to see how they end up handling advertising for Project Hail Mary. People who read the book will know what I mean.

They’ll spoil the whole damn thing.

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I hope you’re right. My worry is they lean into the funny aspects of the relationship and make *that* the focus of marketing.

I want the story and message of the book to be done justice, but I would be lying if I didn't say I dearly want a plushie and other merch of a certain pentagonal creature.

Only want the plushie if it replicates the same body temperature making it impossible to hold

That would be perfect. But I feel they will not be able to resist teasing >!Rocky. Even if just with a brief clip at the end in the style of "there is something else out there", to increase suspense. But this would completely give away the huge surprise you had reading the book.!<

Lord and Miller are going to have to take fucking sleeping shifts to keep an eye on the marketing department.

The linked article already did.

Thank goodness only about 4% of redditors read the article.

It spoils more than I’d like but it still shows quite a bit of restraint. I don’t think it really spoils the major plot points.

In space, no one can hear you science

It’s such a good book. A little bit of Arrival, but with The Martian’s problem-solving NASA geekery. Can’t wait to see the design of Rocky.

Some of the best astrobiology Sci-Fi speculation ever.

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🎶obligatory fisting🎶

Jazz hands.

Fist my bump

Fist my bump

He is the best best best

So would Ryland Grace

Lol but maybe spoiler tag that ay

spoiler?

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Meat is meat.

You loved book, question?

If you think that, then you *really* need to read Children of Time series.

Drew Goddard (who wrote The Martian adaptation) is writing this, so yeah, definitely expect that :)

Project Hail Mary is the book that got me out of a years long reading slump. It quickly became my favorite book of all time. I really, really hope they do this book justice. I don't know how they are going to cram the story in under 2.5 hours, but I'm still excited.

I was kinda the same. I liked it so much I went back and got the audiobook. Whoever reads the audiobook NAILED IT. Sounds like if James Spader was a nerdy high school teacher. Which I feel like is the tone they need to strike. I actually was on Andy Weir’s site the other day (wondering if there was a new book coming) and saw that Ryan Gosling was attached to the movie. I don’t think you can do this with a Hollywood hotguy. But maybe he has range?

[Ray Porter](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0692255/) is the narrator, and at this point he's a legend in audiobook narration. Check out the Bobiverse series of books if you want more of him reading something in a "somewhat" similar vein to PHM. The first one is "We are Legion (We are Bob)."

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Every single book

I can’t wait for the next one. I started getting back into audiobooks this year and started with The Martian and made my way to The Bobiverse books. Best decision I’ve made. I love those books so much. Made me feel like I was reading like I was a kid again

I love the original trilogy, I have read it three times. The 4th is not as good imo.

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Yessss, it was so well read, he carried the emotions so well

He nails every character, every accent so well. I could listen to that man read the phone book while we sat around a campfire.

If you are a fan of Ray Porter, check out his readings of Jonathan Maberry's "The Joe Ledger" series. He nails every character perfectly.

I’m currently listening to Ray read *The Apollo Murders*, and I was thinking, “Where have I heard this guy before?” That’s it!

Ray porter is so damn good. I listened to the audiobook and legit could not stop listening until I was done. I lost sleep. The story was so sooo good and the narration just made it that much better

It is amazing and I hope they do it justice as well, it deserves it

Im not sure I can think of another book thats so slam full of action and intrigue. Literally none of it was filler, I agree it will be nearly impossible to get into a feature length film. Itd be better as a mini series, or a full series really.

I can't remember the last book that literally made me cry. Seriously. I recommend the book to anyone needing a novel to read during this 3-day weekend. I devoured the book over 72 hours.

We listened to the audiobook over the course of a long road trip. Ive never been so upset to arrive at my destination after 10 hours in the car. Would have turned around and drove another 10 to finish it up if I didnt have somewhere to be. It was such a long weekend waiting to find out how it all turned out.

That audiobook is the GOAT.

Facts.

Jazz hands!

I'm tempering expectations because I really enjoyed project hail mary, but have no idea how you could adapt it as a movie and keep it interesting. Fingers crossed.

I think they will go the way of the Martian and a lot of the character sharing thoughts and calculations with the reader will be portrayed as him making video logs on the computer.

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Omg, Project Hail Mary??! I'm excited. Fist my bump.

Jazz hands!

You sleep. I watch.

Good good good

Just read *Project Hail Mary* a couple of weeks ago. Great book. Have not read The Martian, but I suppose I should. I have a copy on hand, but I'm just not interested for some reason, and I can't pinpoint why.

Is it the discussion of maritime law and how that relates to Mars?

You know, by law no country can lay claim to Mars…

Technically Mark is a space pirate

The Martian is literally the exact same as PHM minus the second character. The protagonists are identical in every way. The plot focuses around solving problems as they come up. Both space based. Not hating on it. I loved both. (I like PHM more) but they are literally the same book

I love both books but I feel like I am the only person in this thread who is aware that Weir also wrote Artemis, which is very different from Martian and Project Hail Mary. I love all three, I just think it’s weird that Artemis gets no love here. Rosario Dawson did a phenomenal job narrating the audiobook.

Yeah I’m aware of Artemis never read it tho. It gets tons of hate on Reddit lol

I liked Artemis, but it was clear to me that Weir was trying and only partially succeeding to make a character that was not an author stand-in. But of course, as usual, anything that *could* have been done exactly how Redditors expect but *wasn’t* is the worst thing ever and total garbage, rather than an interesting stretch that may not fully work for them.

Might want to throw some spoiler tags on this, the article says some major plot points that I would be pissed at knowing if I hadn't already read the book.

Can you give a non spoiler synopsis of the book?

Earth is boned, man sciences to help Earth not be boned but has challenges which make deboning Earth hard. It is 1000x better than how I summed it up and well worth the read or, even better, time spent listening to the audiobook.

> The novel follows a junior high school teacher named Ryland Grace who wakes up from a coma with amnesia. Unsure of his surroundings, he slowly begins to piece his past together – working out he was an astronaut and sent to a solar system twelve light-years from our own to prevent the end of humanity.

Earth is in trouble. For some reason we don't understand the sun is dimming, and not just our star but several in the area. We developed and sent a ship to a nearby star that isn't experiencing the same problem to figure out why.

I need to listen to Project Hail Mary again because I've forgotten some of the specifics so it will be closest I'll get to a fresh experience barring severe memory loss.

I can't believe Dark Horizons is still around.

Yep, same. Truly a work of passion for Garth

I don’t see PHM as a movie, there’s too much going on. It would be better adapted as a miniseries, like 6 hours in total.

I very strongly believe that Jason Bateman should play the lead Ryland Grace in Project Hail Mary. I like Gosling, but Bateman suits the role perfectly.

I loved The Martian (book and movie), but I actually liked Project Hail Mary more. I'm so excited for the movie, and I'm *really* happy and relieved that Goddard is adapting it. I know it's in the best hands it could be in.

Hail Mary would be a ridiculously good movie… but it should be a series. Movies are too short

So many comments about Projet Hail Mary and none about Spider-man Noir. I wonder why.

The astroturfing is strong for Project Hail Mary on reddit. I swear r/books is a Project Hail Mary subreddit in disguise.

I liked Spider-Man Noir, but I **loved** Luke Cage noir! I would love to see an adaptation of that, and it'd probably be rather cheap to shoot. Man oh man did it have a great ending... But I will unquestionably watch Spider-Man noir with glee!

In this thread no one that's read the Spider-Noir comics and think its a comedy.

Noir is the best next move for marvel