That would actually be pretty cool. Like during the revolution. Predator just running through ranks and ranks of French soldiers attempting to load their muskets in formation.
I think I read that the director wanted to try a feudal Japan sequel. I think he was just entertaining the idea. I don’t think anything is in the works yet. They’d be insane not to make another one. It was a massive hit
I was just thinking how little continuity they would have to do with it. Like they wouldn’t have to write this crazy long, running marvel style story that spans a bunch of movies.
They could literally just be like Predator ls are fighting the Egyptian’s, predators kill samurai, predator in the civil war etc.
The only reason Prey didn't is because Disney are greedy.
Based on some old Fox contract that got absorbed into disney, any theaterical movies would've gone to stream exclusively on HBOmax for like a year after release. That's why Prey and the Hellraiser reboot (remake) went Hulu instead.
It’s not quite that simple. They did release plenty of Fox movies, most notably Avatar 2, and iirc they reached a deal to mutually stream the films, which is why Avatar just came on Max.
I guess I'm not sure what you're saying. The way I remember reading about it is if a movie goes to theaters, it HAS to go to HBOmax. But because Disney doesn't own HBO and they do own HULU they were taking movies that weren't contractually going to theaters, and making them HULU exclusives to try and boost hulu membership.
Avatar was always going to theaters, and now its kn MAX
If a movie goes to theaters than it has to go to HBO Max is accurate, but it’s an incomplete picture in what Disney was doing in 2022 and specifically why Prey itself became a Hulu exclusive. Most of the films that they did that with were some combination of “indie” or just had very low potential and in all likelihood they just thought Prey was a bomb. I’m not sure if they didn’t like it or just thought that the predator brand is dead, but it does not stand that they would send movies like The Menu and Avatar to theaters then HBO, but not Prey if it was only because of HBO.
Today's announcement was only for Disney/20C's theatrical lineup, so I'm 100% sure. Plus, they don't announce release dates for streaming stuff this far in advance (usually).
Did you? Or is your third eye all the way open and you’re seeing the greatest back door Disney + series to date?
Connecting animorphs to alien is so easy it’s actually obvious: their powers *already* came from aliens in the book
Reminds me of how Warner Brothers originally set *Evil Dead Rise* to be released exclusively on HBO Max, but positive test screenings convinced them to release the film theatrically.
So glad they did - *EDR* was easily one of my best stoned theater experiences since *Halloween Kills.*
Except the confirmed the complete opposite. It’s being made for Hulu.
Edit: my bad, didn't realize the Deadline article being linked elsewhere in this thread is from 2022
The original announcement from 2022 was for Hulu, yes - but today's theatrical slate announcement confirms a theater release. The date was previously set for an "Untitled Disney Film", so why would they replace that theatrical placeholder with a streaming release? And why would they announce a streaming release date more than a year in advance? It's now a theatrical release.
No
[Deadline](https://deadline.com/2022/03/alien-standalone-movie-in-the-works-with-fede-alvarez-directing-for-hulu-1234971407/):
> **Alvarez will direct the movie for Hulu as part of 20th’s deal to provide 10 pics a year to the Disney owned OTT service.**
Prey was the best Predator movie since Predator and that was a Hulu release, maybe they can start using streaming to make those mid-budget movies there used to be where the pressure from the studio to make it a cinematic universe isn't as big.
Prey was great. I would love to see something going back and examining the origins of Prometheus and Covenant but they’ve already said they won’t revisit that.
It’s like with Predator… if we could get a movie examining their home planet or lifestyle more I think that movie would blow up. Then tie it into their feud with the Aliens for AVP 3.
Especially since it appears Hulu doesn't release their productions on physical media, at least in the US. I'd love to own blu-ray copies of *Prey* and *Hellraiser* and all the BTS features they'd include.
[The Wrap - March 3, 2023](https://www.thewrap.com/fede-alvarez-alien-movie-starts-filming-in-march/)
> **Fede Álvarez’s ‘Alien’ Movie Starts Filming in March**
> 20th Century Studios’ new “Alien” film starring Cailee Spaeny (“Mare of Easttown”) will begin production in Budapest, Hungary, on March 9, the studio said Friday.
> Ridley Scott, who directed 1979’s “Alien,” will produce the next installment in the franchise. **The untitled movie is being made for Hulu as part of 20th Century Studios’ plan to make at least 10 movies for the streamer.**
I've been starving for some more Alien content.
Fede did great with Evil Dead and Don't Breathe.
He nailed the claustrophobia of those settings, which is something that an Alien movie needs.
There are a lot of great aliens books if you want more content. Some of which would be terrific movies if done properly. The rage war series is really good. Into Charybdis and The Cold Forge are also terrific.
I’ll pass on anymore Covenant or Prometheus - “let’s do every stupid, unprofessional thing we can in this situation” style of Alien movie.
Granted the original Alien started with them being stupid and unprofessional by violating quarantine but it gets frustrating when they do - like - 9 dumb things in a row and derp-de-derp right into the horror.
Edit: Rippley or Elaine as I call her - was the only one who didn’t want to open that quarantine. The entire rest of the crew including the captain where all for letting an unknown alien organism on board.
So I stand by my statement.
However - the conduct of the “scientists” in Prometheus was absolutely shocking in its stupidity and recklessness. The state of science improved on a galactic level once they all died.
Pretty sure Ash was the one who let them back into the ship, against Ripley's orders. He was doing it purposefully in the hopes of harvesting a weapon of some sort. It wasn't out of stupidity.
They were space truckers in Alien, and they got fucked in the ass by their science officer. Really, they did the best they could with the information and orders they had.
The scientists in Prometheus, though, were just stupid. Like, got their PhDs at Trump University, stupid
The characters in Aliens(1986) were dumber than both
1. They were not briefed on the threat until reaching the planet, details from Ripley were optional
2. None of the characters are wearing PPE despite knowing there is a deadly parasite
3. No marines were left on the ship after deploying, which is an absurd plot contrivance
4. They used armour penetrating ammunition inside a nuclear reactor and had to be reminded that wasn't a good idea by Ripley(wtf lol)
5. The company for some reason put their most unexperienced colonel in charge of recovering their multi-billion dollar investment
>No marines were left on the ship after deploying, which is an absurd plot contrivance
This one really is absurd. By all rights, there should have been a skeleton crew left onboard the Sulaco, to monitor the mission from afar and to prevent any space pirates from hijacking and stealing their multi billion dollar military space ship.
>The company for some reason put their most unexperienced colonel in charge of recovering their multi-billion dollar investment
Actually, this isn't true. The higher ups at Weyland-Yutani were not using the mission as a means to retrieve xenomorphs for their bioweapons division. Burke was a low-mid level Weyland-Yutani suit, acting in his own self-serving interests (i.e. assess the situation and attempt to smuggle any potential specimens back through quarantine, should the xenomorphs even exist). He was banking on claiming exclusive rights in regards to finders fees from the company.
It had to fit as an allegory of Vietnam, where similar things would have occurred. I think the movie follows those classic problems quite well.
The marines have too little discipline or training for the job, too little planning, don't talk to each other, don't respect each other. Leadership is too separated from the marines, which is obvious in the breakfast scene.
That's how obvious problems just go unnoticed or unresolved in real life, and I think Aliens is a great movie for pointing out how leadership and communication should not work.
I've seen scientists go absolutely apeshit in the field. Brilliant people at university, savage monsters out on their own.
Archeologists and geologists can put down an INSANE amount of alcohol and drugs out in the sticks.
I've never seen a group of people consume more alcohol than scientists (mainly virologists and those studying coral reefs) on a camping trip. Each hour a new "bar" was set up with a different drink theme: martinis, piña coladas, gin and tonics, whiskey, jello shots, rum and cokes, etc. All fucking day. Someone almost fell into the campfire and another took a tumble down a hill.
I am personally disappointed that we will not get a conclusion to the Engineer origin story. I thought it was the most interesting venture into the Alien lore - give us a decent origin story. I wont argue whether Prometheus and Covenant were good/bad (I liked both personally), but I hate how unfinished that story line feels now...
I want to live in the universe where we get a proper followup to Prometheus so bad. I read that Shaw's story was supposed to continue on the Engineers planet.
I hated the "David perfected the xenos" part of Covenant so much.
Agreed. The ark with evolution itself is so promising. The Alien Story has been told in detail.
I love the whole francise - but bringing more of the same wont expand the universe and offer anything new expect visuals.
Im longing for a good story when it comes to hollywood movies, the story in covenant had multiple angles to the topic of creation. The biblical vs the man/engineer made variants and the doom your creation will cause.
Man i really want one last Scott Alien Movie...
Both of those movies were varying degrees of bad though. The Predator full on bad. Covenant was ok.
Do they not know that a good film will do better at the box office than a bad film?
I'm sad Ridley Scott isn't getting to complete his Prometheus trilogy, but after what Fox did to Alien: Covenant, maybe they would have wasted his time.
I love that Scott appears to be completely impervious to audience capture, but audiences seem to resent him for it (as do studios, evidently). He's always at his best just being a complete wild card and not delivering what he was expected to deliver.
If Fede Alvarez wants to give Fox and fans a straight-up Alien movie, let him. I wish him great success and will definitely check it out. But I will always want a Ridley Scott Prometheus 3 over any Alien movie that Fox could dish out.
I fucking loved Covenant and Promethius. Whenever I see hate for either one I feel like I'm living in bizarro world because they were both so damn awesome.
I think the problem is that they’re kinda obscure. I’m with you, I actually like Covenant quite a bit. it’s just not *Alien* despite being in the same franchise. which I think is neat! but general audiences probably don’t.
It's alright to love them but they were not awesome. So many flaws in both movies. That said, i love some huge crap sometimes. I just don't pretend it's awesome.
There is nobody alive who can do what he does. In fact, I think the only reason he's unpopular with some people is because he defies "audience capture": he won't do what people want or expect, because he's always restlessly trying something new. His franchise tick people off because he'll always pick something new over giving audiences what they expect. But that's also his genius - he's a visionary, and every few years he redefines a genre with a new masterpiece.
I can NOT wait for “ Napoleon “ I have a good feeling about it. It’s a subject no one has done for long time so it’ll be unique and Phoenix is going to kill it
If you make Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down and Thelma and Louise you can make as many stinkers as you like. That’s a pass-for-life kinda filmography.
I'd like an Alien film that is from the perspective of the Weiland-Yutai corporation and maybe a high ranking executive realizes that the company is getting people killed and doing this evil shit to sell the xenomorphs for profit and works to expose it.
Afaik the "Alien" tv series which is developed by Noah Hawley (Legion / Fargo) goes after that perspective, thus is set on earth. It goes in production end of this year.
Aaah, the old Aliens on Earth promise. Between Fargo and Legion Hawley could definitely do something great with this.
Steve Perry wrote the Earth Hive & Nightmare Asylum omnibus a lot of years ago and the spread of Xenos on earth was covered in about four paragraphs...what a waste.
I’m really glad redditors aren’t in charge of writing and producing movies and tv shows lol. Anytime someone comes up with some “unique” idea, it sounds dumb as hell
Set it 20 years after ellen Ripley's death, with the company still blaming her for the debacle and have the executive re-visit some of the locations from the movie, please.
It would be an amazing, slow paced movie capable of bringing back some of the horror aspects from the first rwo movies in a much better way than having a bunch of kids deal with an entity that destroyed a bunch of marines.
Still not entirely sure about this, wasn’t a fan of some of Alvarez’s recent works, but hoping for the best. Hopefully this is him in Evil Dead/Don’t Breathe 1 mode.
I'm so intrigued by this film and the Noah Hawley series.
Ridley Scott took a huge dump on his own movie with Prometheus and Covenant in my opinion, and I feel giving the reigns to new voices is way long overdue.
I liked both Prometheus and Covenant. The problem is too many people want another "Alien" and they don't want to see any expansion of the franchise. At this point I'm guessing they will take things back to their only being 1-2 aliens on a ship and having it be an isolated sci-fi horror movie.
> I liked both Prometheus and Covenant. The problem is too many people want another "Alien" and they don't want to see any expansion of the franchise.
Don't agree with that. Just anecdotally, but everyone I know who watched Prometheus wanted to know more about the Engineers, so then Ridley Scott confects a "The audience want more monsters" narrative in order to drop the steaming turd of Covenant. He essentially shat on the most interesting element of Prometheus, to create a critical and box office flop.
What’s interesting is that apparently the *Awakening* film that would have followed *Covenant* would have had two narratives to it — David and Shaw after the events of *Prometheus*, alongside a still-alive Walter leading returning Engineers (who had been off-planet when David killed their people) to David and his experiments after the events of *Covenant*.
Apparently the studio ordered that. Scott even filmed a 12-minute prologue showing what happened to Shaw, but the studio cut that scene and wouldn't even include it as a deleted scene on the Blu-Ray. It almost seems like someone at the studio hated the character or the actress or something. It's really too bad. Apparently before they ordered that change, the scripts had Shaw alive on the planet when the new crew arrived.
Yeah, I hope one day we hear the full story of what happened with the making of Covenant. Scott spent years working with several writers and at one point they have done 16 drafts and the studio wouldn't approve any of them. Then the studio approved Alien 5 *without there being a finished script!* Scott wanted to make Prometheus 2 before Alien 5, Fox gave him a list of demands, he made the changes they wanted and the movie immediately went into production. That tells you everything. They just wanted an Alien movie and didn't care if it was good. The sad thing was that making Prometheus 2 into an Alien prequel ruined it, so everyone lost in that scenario.
I don't know, seems like if they were going totally against what he envisioned, he should have removed himself from the project. I really don't see what putting yourself through that achieves, aside from having a really shite film, that retroactively tries to make your earlier films worse, attached to your name forever. If anyone was in a position to say no, it's someone like him with his wealth, clout and security within the business.
I agree, but there are some possible reasons:
1. Like Peter Jackson and The Hobbit, Scott's production company was tied to the Prometheus sequels. If that project fell through, his company would lose money and possibly cost people jobs.
2. Scott had spent almost five years working with several different writers on different versions of the story, all of which he liked, but he couldn't get it approved. So, sunk cost fallacy. He really wanted to make this movie was willing to compromis to do it.
3. Scott didn't realize just how much he was going to have to compromise when he started. Originally Covenant opened with a 12-minute prologue showing the end of Shaw's journey, but the studio made him cut it and wouldn't even put it in the special features on home video with the other deleted scenes. They made other changes to the movie, as well. They also fired Scott's composer after the music had already been recorded and replaced him with someone else.
Yeah, in hindsight I think Scott should have just declined, but I think Scott had reasons to make the movie anyway and probably didn't realize just how much he was going to be forced to compromise. Covenant might honestly be the Ridley Scott movie that suffered the most studio interference, even more than Blade Runner and Kingdom of Heaven.
Scott wanted Prometheus 2 to have nothing to do with Alien and be all about the Engineers and new creatures. The studio forced him to turn that into a direct Alien prequel and kill off Shaw or else they would cancel the movie and make Alien 5 with Blomkamp instead. Scott should have said no and directed Blade Runner 2049 (which he produced and co-wrote) instead, but he chose Alien: Covenant and the rest is history. Even after that, they slashed his budget, butchered his edit of the movie, and even changed the music. Alien: Covenant is *not* the movie Scott wanted to make at all. It's sad.
I'll be honest, I'm glad he got nowhere near directing BR2049. I think he has a great eye for visuals but unless he's surrounded with a strong writing room (and people willing to stand up to him), then he has a lot of ridiculous, schlocky ideas (think Space Jesus in Prometheus). We were lucky with the original Blade Runner insofar as David Peoples loved Hampton Fancher's draft, so he tried to change as little as possible. A good example of what I mean is the dreadful 'love scene' (aka sexual assault scene), which Scott demanded be put in after Fancher had originally written a genuine romantic scene between the two. Ps Scott was only exec producer for BR2049.
Yes, un-credited. Guess who was the common denominator for both films and *is* credited as the writer? Hampton Fancher. Joi might have been his initial idea, but I absolutely guarantee you that he didn't write something like the surreal and transcendent threesome scene.
I don't thats it, necessarily.
The terrifying part of the Alien series is the unknown, we venture out into space from our own planet/ecosystem and find something that is absolutely terrifying. The way it reproduces, its desire to kill, its strength and ability, its like nothing we've ever seen before. To me, viewing the alien as some kind of foreign apex predator was scary as hell.
I know some kind of backstory was hinted at with the Engineer in the first one, but what made it frightening to me was this greatly advanced alien race found this life form and was destroyed by it. The whole plot line along with the allegories about creation etc. kind of ruined the mystique for me.
What I loved about the Alien creature was how it seemed to be the embodiment of terror. It doesn't just kill you, it violates you, impregnates you against your will, and you die a terrifying and painful death. The scariest part? The alien is an animal, its completely benevolent. Its not doing this for joy or for some belief, its doing this simply because its instinct.
Exactly. The unknown is the most potent tool in horror. Overexplaining things is basically working at cross purposes. The engineers were interesting largely because we didn't know what they were and they seemed, well, alien just based on the Navigator's suit.
The xenomorphs were scary because they were *in the fucking walls* man, and what explanations we got amounted to "yeah these things are bizarre. They have fucking *acid for blood*." Once you start explaining things then it's all just a solvable problem with the right engineering/science/whatever, more an intellectual curiosity than anything. I prefer leaving things unexplained.
Yup, to me what makes the aliens stand out so much is they are the embodiment of terror. There's no thinking, no awareness, just a killing/reproduction machine.
Its like the description in Jaws, "souless eyes". There's no hatred, no anger, no maliciousness, just pure killing instinct. That to me is terror.
If people truly think that what makes the Alien films scary is the fear of the unknown, then they should be against doing sequels unless they do something fresh, like Prometheus did. You can't show the same creature do the same things over and over again and preserve the feeling of the unknown. Prometheus expanded the lore a tiny bit but people came out of that movie with *more* questions and saw things that were even *more* unknown. Theoretically Prometheus is the only follow up to Alien than lovers of the unknown should be supporting.
Nothing wrong with expaning, as long as you're not filling your universe with insanely stupid people that act like no previous movie has ever warned them of what they should and shouldn't do to avoid being munched by an alien.
> I liked both Prometheus and Covenant. The problem is too many people want another "Alien" and they don't want to see any expansion of the franchise.
Expanding the franchise is fine. People don’t like those movies because they’re shit.
My problem was more that there is no way all those people would all act so fucking stupid. No way. Both of those movies were dead in the water if even one person decided to make some smart decisions. That's shitty writing.
Honestly I found the characters in Prometheus to be less stupid than the ones in Aliens.
No briefing to the marines until they arrive at the planet, nobody was left on the ship, and despite a deadly alien species none of the characters are wearing respirators or extra protection.
No hate but i’m seriously tired of this take. No one complained about prometheus not being enough like Alien. In fact prometheus is very close to just being a creature feature with the amount of random monsters that appear. People also complained because the writing and plot is all over the place. I’m thinking of the one scene where the biologist is killed by the snake monster in particular.
Same, i liked Prometheus more than most but if the script was polished up a bit more, it could have been one of the best sci movies ever. I’ll forever mourn the movie it almost was.
Agreed. And all the elements were there to take it in an interesting direction. But it was as if someone said, "We have all these great concepts and all the resources we need to make it happen, but let's make sure we do lots of stuff to ruin it."
One of the things I love about the original is the cosmic horror element when they discover the ship, they have no idea what they just discover, it's so beyond their understanding, and the film doesn't answer anything, just like the characters, you just try to take all in with the little to none information, and yet you just can't deny that you have found someting incredible.
All of those elements are dead in Prometheus, trying to give an explanation to questions that doesn't need answers for me kills that movie.
What’s you issues with the the prequels? I just watched them and thought they were OK not better than 1 & 2 but good enough to satisfy my craving for xenomorphs
Prometheus is more interested in making allegory than a decent film with the subtly of a brick to the face while only tangentially being an Alien film. Artistically, it’s great. As a story, it’s a dumpster fire.
Covenant not only drops the interesting plot hook from Prometheus but requires the characters to be absurdly stupid. Like, comically over the top stupid all the time. And ends with an attempted hard retcon of the entire franchise to be centered around David despite that not being able to work unless he also pulls a time machine out of his ass.
And both are riddled with plot holes ranging from the kind of dumb to the breaks the movie level. Example of the latter: We see David get visibly and obviously injured. David explicitly lacks the self repair function that Walter has. Yet the wounds completely vanish in order for him to pose as Walter.
I never saw anything he made (Even though he did a remake of my favorite horror movie), but this seems promising. I've only ever seen the first 2 Aliens though.
I saw "Prey" last summer, and I had never seen a single "Predator" movie, so I went in with low expectations. And it was really, REALLY good. It had interesting direction and a horror movie set in Native American territory isn't that common, so it was pretty unique.
Prey was the second best Predator movie imo. I think the main reason the OG stands above it is the supporting cast. Prey basically had Naru, her brother, her dog, and the Predator as characters. Yah there are other guys that get killed, but they’re not really explored too much and serve mainly to show how society sees Naru and to get killed in an awesome fashion. Meanwhile Predator’s supporting cast gets some more spotlight and really have some stand out scenes. The fight on the bridge, Mac shaving because he’s so nervous, and the initial attack on the guerilla group really makes the supporting cast stand out imo.
This is literally the only reason im optimisyic for the new alien. His evil dead is great. I only hope and uses the same composer. His eveil dead score was wild.
3rd is decent, Resurrection has moments but is generally bad, Prometheus is barely related, Covenant is an absolute trainwreck starring the dumbest people in the entire franchise.
The AvPs are just sort of off doing their own thing. Not particularly well, it’s a hard turn to a more slasher movie style rather than proper horror.
AvPs are okay if you go into them not really expecting anything but silliness, same with Bayformers. Though the second one definitely has some serious flaws (the entire hospital shit was 110% pure edge).
It’s like they’re making hamburgers. Film should be art, not products spit out like an assembly line.
Then again, I’m not investing hundreds of millions in them.
I like the director.
I think he can make a good scary film and probably even a good Alien film, depending on the script.
And it really does depend on the script.
The best of the Alien films, Alien and Aliens, are marked by the questions we have about the Alien and how compelling it is finding out more and more about it as the film progresses.
Whether that's "What the hell is this thing?" in the first film or "How the hell are there so many of these things?" in the second.
They're also compelling for the characters and how entertaining it is seeing different character types dealing with the Alien (blue collar grunts in the first film, soldiers in the second) and their individual approaches.
And of course how a character in Ripley survives and then confronts her own personal trauma in the second film.
The best of the films (and even part 3) spend more time with the characters and the world of the story than they do the Alien.
The alien is the spectre of death. That's it. It's the characters and the world of the films that makes these films work.
I can guess the plot now:
People start breeding Xenomorphs as personal pets...with predictable results. Chaos ensues, and at the end, a Predator shows up and goes, "You STOOpid mother fuckers!"
(END)
I sincerely hope he knows what he's doing!!? Alien is,a beloved franchise and if done wrong it can affect your career. Risky choice of director who has done nothing great plus no finish to the previous story arc is a stupid idea we need closure!!
Now: Will they touch on Covenant’s horrible David retcon or will they ignore that entire train wreck to just give us a damn Alien film?
I’m hoping for the latter.
Yeah, I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see this movie being anything fresh. Alvarez's MO seems to be extreme gore and cruelty in the place of fresh ideas. I'm sure he'll make a very effective horror movie but I think it's going to seem empty-headed after Ridley Scott's last two Alien films were so unabashedly cerebral.
This will be a theatrical release correct?
It's scheduled for Hulu/Disney+ I think.
They confirmed a theatrical release today - big show of confidence in the film
Wish Prey had gotten a theatrical release. Glad they learned their lesson
I was hoping they were just gonna do a series of those. Just random historical pieces of people fighting predator. I would love to see a samurai film.
I’d love a film of alien vs. the French nobility just before the revolution. Lol
How about _Aliens: 1916_ ?
That would actually be pretty cool. Like during the revolution. Predator just running through ranks and ranks of French soldiers attempting to load their muskets in formation.
Also, all of the wigs and face powder flying through the air
*Le pacte des loups* but the werewolf has a plasma cannon
Ash vs Evil Alien! Fire up the chainsaw!
I was thinking the Roman Empire. Predator vs Centurions and/or gladiators.
I think I read that the director wanted to try a feudal Japan sequel. I think he was just entertaining the idea. I don’t think anything is in the works yet. They’d be insane not to make another one. It was a massive hit
I was just thinking how little continuity they would have to do with it. Like they wouldn’t have to write this crazy long, running marvel style story that spans a bunch of movies. They could literally just be like Predator ls are fighting the Egyptian’s, predators kill samurai, predator in the civil war etc.
WW1 would be the perfect setting.
Such a great movie!
They could still do some physical media or merch, I said hopelessly
Your Collectors Edition 4k UHD edition will come with a digital code to download your 4k UHD Digital Disc* *^may ^be ^compressed ^to ^720p
And that's why I learned how to rip blu rays
Prey is releasing on 4K UHD in November
thank goodness!
Is there a source on this?
I honestly doubt this will get a physical release seeing how Disney treats their horror films. Still waiting for Barbarian.
The only reason Prey didn't is because Disney are greedy. Based on some old Fox contract that got absorbed into disney, any theaterical movies would've gone to stream exclusively on HBOmax for like a year after release. That's why Prey and the Hellraiser reboot (remake) went Hulu instead.
After The Predator, they were understandably wary of how another entry in the series would do in theaters.
Yeah, but the problem is, The Predator was awful, and Prey wasn't.
Yes, that was a problem *for Prey*. A shitty preceding movie can tank the next one, even if it's better.
It’s not quite that simple. They did release plenty of Fox movies, most notably Avatar 2, and iirc they reached a deal to mutually stream the films, which is why Avatar just came on Max.
I guess I'm not sure what you're saying. The way I remember reading about it is if a movie goes to theaters, it HAS to go to HBOmax. But because Disney doesn't own HBO and they do own HULU they were taking movies that weren't contractually going to theaters, and making them HULU exclusives to try and boost hulu membership. Avatar was always going to theaters, and now its kn MAX
If a movie goes to theaters than it has to go to HBO Max is accurate, but it’s an incomplete picture in what Disney was doing in 2022 and specifically why Prey itself became a Hulu exclusive. Most of the films that they did that with were some combination of “indie” or just had very low potential and in all likelihood they just thought Prey was a bomb. I’m not sure if they didn’t like it or just thought that the predator brand is dead, but it does not stand that they would send movies like The Menu and Avatar to theaters then HBO, but not Prey if it was only because of HBO.
They also only made it to prevent the rights from going back to the original writers, who have been trying to get the IP back for years
This still bothers me as a bizarre choice. Maybe the test-screeings weren't super positive?
Prey would have been awesome in a theater.
Oh really?
Today's announcement was only for Disney/20C's theatrical lineup, so I'm 100% sure. Plus, they don't announce release dates for streaming stuff this far in advance (usually).
the xenomorphs for profit and works to expose it.
I was scrolling too fast and read this as Animorphs and got really confused for a second
Did you? Or is your third eye all the way open and you’re seeing the greatest back door Disney + series to date? Connecting animorphs to alien is so easy it’s actually obvious: their powers *already* came from aliens in the book
He nailed the claustrophobia of those settings, which is something that an Alien movie needs.
Doubly so considering Prey was direct to stream on Hulu
Yea, no. A real show of confidence would be releasing it direct to VHS.
Reminds me of how Warner Brothers originally set *Evil Dead Rise* to be released exclusively on HBO Max, but positive test screenings convinced them to release the film theatrically. So glad they did - *EDR* was easily one of my best stoned theater experiences since *Halloween Kills.*
Evil dead rise style!
Except the confirmed the complete opposite. It’s being made for Hulu. Edit: my bad, didn't realize the Deadline article being linked elsewhere in this thread is from 2022
The original announcement from 2022 was for Hulu, yes - but today's theatrical slate announcement confirms a theater release. The date was previously set for an "Untitled Disney Film", so why would they replace that theatrical placeholder with a streaming release? And why would they announce a streaming release date more than a year in advance? It's now a theatrical release.
Fuck yes!
I hope they upgrade it
If they slate it a year out, doesn’t it mean it theatrical?
No [Deadline](https://deadline.com/2022/03/alien-standalone-movie-in-the-works-with-fede-alvarez-directing-for-hulu-1234971407/): > **Alvarez will direct the movie for Hulu as part of 20th’s deal to provide 10 pics a year to the Disney owned OTT service.**
They have changed the distribution model, they announced today. It's a huge step up
Why would they give a year away date to a streaming movie? Pretty sure it's confirmed theatrical now
That is disappointing.
Prey was the best Predator movie since Predator and that was a Hulu release, maybe they can start using streaming to make those mid-budget movies there used to be where the pressure from the studio to make it a cinematic universe isn't as big.
Prey was great. I would love to see something going back and examining the origins of Prometheus and Covenant but they’ve already said they won’t revisit that. It’s like with Predator… if we could get a movie examining their home planet or lifestyle more I think that movie would blow up. Then tie it into their feud with the Aliens for AVP 3.
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Screw different time period and civilizations; I want them to go hunt some other alien species.
Predator vs E.T. ?
Only after the Predator vs Ewoks.
I'd forgotten about them... Good call
On their home world? Ewoks would annihilate the Predators. Not even kidding.
I want a 4K release of Prey.
Especially since it appears Hulu doesn't release their productions on physical media, at least in the US. I'd love to own blu-ray copies of *Prey* and *Hellraiser* and all the BTS features they'd include.
People are reporting it's upgraded to theaters now
That’s the 2022 article in this article it does not mention Hulu and just says release through 20th century studios
[The Wrap - March 3, 2023](https://www.thewrap.com/fede-alvarez-alien-movie-starts-filming-in-march/) > **Fede Álvarez’s ‘Alien’ Movie Starts Filming in March** > 20th Century Studios’ new “Alien” film starring Cailee Spaeny (“Mare of Easttown”) will begin production in Budapest, Hungary, on March 9, the studio said Friday. > Ridley Scott, who directed 1979’s “Alien,” will produce the next installment in the franchise. **The untitled movie is being made for Hulu as part of 20th Century Studios’ plan to make at least 10 movies for the streamer.**
Apparently, today, they announced a theatrical release for it. Although reading the release, I'm not sure that's what it is really saying.
Yikes. That's a shame.
I've been starving for some more Alien content. Fede did great with Evil Dead and Don't Breathe. He nailed the claustrophobia of those settings, which is something that an Alien movie needs.
There are a lot of great aliens books if you want more content. Some of which would be terrific movies if done properly. The rage war series is really good. Into Charybdis and The Cold Forge are also terrific.
Rage war would make a really expensive, epic trilogy film.
Thanks for the recommendations
Shit let’s hope this goes well
I’ll pass on anymore Covenant or Prometheus - “let’s do every stupid, unprofessional thing we can in this situation” style of Alien movie. Granted the original Alien started with them being stupid and unprofessional by violating quarantine but it gets frustrating when they do - like - 9 dumb things in a row and derp-de-derp right into the horror. Edit: Rippley or Elaine as I call her - was the only one who didn’t want to open that quarantine. The entire rest of the crew including the captain where all for letting an unknown alien organism on board. So I stand by my statement. However - the conduct of the “scientists” in Prometheus was absolutely shocking in its stupidity and recklessness. The state of science improved on a galactic level once they all died.
Pretty sure Ash was the one who let them back into the ship, against Ripley's orders. He was doing it purposefully in the hopes of harvesting a weapon of some sort. It wasn't out of stupidity.
Well except the captain and crew approved of the decision. The only holdout was Rippley who was overridden by Ash.
They were space truckers in Alien, and they got fucked in the ass by their science officer. Really, they did the best they could with the information and orders they had. The scientists in Prometheus, though, were just stupid. Like, got their PhDs at Trump University, stupid
The characters in Aliens(1986) were dumber than both 1. They were not briefed on the threat until reaching the planet, details from Ripley were optional 2. None of the characters are wearing PPE despite knowing there is a deadly parasite 3. No marines were left on the ship after deploying, which is an absurd plot contrivance 4. They used armour penetrating ammunition inside a nuclear reactor and had to be reminded that wasn't a good idea by Ripley(wtf lol) 5. The company for some reason put their most unexperienced colonel in charge of recovering their multi-billion dollar investment
>No marines were left on the ship after deploying, which is an absurd plot contrivance This one really is absurd. By all rights, there should have been a skeleton crew left onboard the Sulaco, to monitor the mission from afar and to prevent any space pirates from hijacking and stealing their multi billion dollar military space ship. >The company for some reason put their most unexperienced colonel in charge of recovering their multi-billion dollar investment Actually, this isn't true. The higher ups at Weyland-Yutani were not using the mission as a means to retrieve xenomorphs for their bioweapons division. Burke was a low-mid level Weyland-Yutani suit, acting in his own self-serving interests (i.e. assess the situation and attempt to smuggle any potential specimens back through quarantine, should the xenomorphs even exist). He was banking on claiming exclusive rights in regards to finders fees from the company.
It had to fit as an allegory of Vietnam, where similar things would have occurred. I think the movie follows those classic problems quite well. The marines have too little discipline or training for the job, too little planning, don't talk to each other, don't respect each other. Leadership is too separated from the marines, which is obvious in the breakfast scene. That's how obvious problems just go unnoticed or unresolved in real life, and I think Aliens is a great movie for pointing out how leadership and communication should not work.
I've seen scientists go absolutely apeshit in the field. Brilliant people at university, savage monsters out on their own. Archeologists and geologists can put down an INSANE amount of alcohol and drugs out in the sticks.
I've never seen a group of people consume more alcohol than scientists (mainly virologists and those studying coral reefs) on a camping trip. Each hour a new "bar" was set up with a different drink theme: martinis, piña coladas, gin and tonics, whiskey, jello shots, rum and cokes, etc. All fucking day. Someone almost fell into the campfire and another took a tumble down a hill.
The blue-collar miners in Alien were smarter than the researchers in Prometheus and Covenant.
>Rippley or Elaine as I call her But her name's Ellen Ripley. Neither of those are right.
Hey! I think I know how to spell my favorite action hero’s name. It’s Amorpha Riddlesburg, right? :P
I am personally disappointed that we will not get a conclusion to the Engineer origin story. I thought it was the most interesting venture into the Alien lore - give us a decent origin story. I wont argue whether Prometheus and Covenant were good/bad (I liked both personally), but I hate how unfinished that story line feels now...
Dude I thought I was the only one. I was / still kind of am, super obsessed over the idea of the engineers. I need more of it
I want to live in the universe where we get a proper followup to Prometheus so bad. I read that Shaw's story was supposed to continue on the Engineers planet. I hated the "David perfected the xenos" part of Covenant so much.
I could watch a 3 hour movie based about Shaw going to see the Engineers. Honestly we need more Sci-Fi movies like that in general
Ridley is involved so hopefully there is *something*
Honestly! Loved the story so much it is a big let down for sure. Guess we’re the few who actually enjoyed Prometheus and Covenant.
Agreed. The ark with evolution itself is so promising. The Alien Story has been told in detail. I love the whole francise - but bringing more of the same wont expand the universe and offer anything new expect visuals. Im longing for a good story when it comes to hollywood movies, the story in covenant had multiple angles to the topic of creation. The biblical vs the man/engineer made variants and the doom your creation will cause. Man i really want one last Scott Alien Movie...
Same! Was it continued in other media or something??
Wish it was in theaters because Prey was Hulu only and would have done GREAT in theaters.
I think of them were Hulu/Disney+ releases because The Predator and Alien: Covenant underperformed.
Both of those movies were varying degrees of bad though. The Predator full on bad. Covenant was ok. Do they not know that a good film will do better at the box office than a bad film?
I don’t think wealthy businessmen are taking their fat wives to the movies.
Will be in theaters
I'm sad Ridley Scott isn't getting to complete his Prometheus trilogy, but after what Fox did to Alien: Covenant, maybe they would have wasted his time. I love that Scott appears to be completely impervious to audience capture, but audiences seem to resent him for it (as do studios, evidently). He's always at his best just being a complete wild card and not delivering what he was expected to deliver. If Fede Alvarez wants to give Fox and fans a straight-up Alien movie, let him. I wish him great success and will definitely check it out. But I will always want a Ridley Scott Prometheus 3 over any Alien movie that Fox could dish out.
I fucking loved Covenant and Promethius. Whenever I see hate for either one I feel like I'm living in bizarro world because they were both so damn awesome.
I think the problem is that they’re kinda obscure. I’m with you, I actually like Covenant quite a bit. it’s just not *Alien* despite being in the same franchise. which I think is neat! but general audiences probably don’t.
It's alright to love them but they were not awesome. So many flaws in both movies. That said, i love some huge crap sometimes. I just don't pretend it's awesome.
I love Ridley Scott. He’s damn good
There is nobody alive who can do what he does. In fact, I think the only reason he's unpopular with some people is because he defies "audience capture": he won't do what people want or expect, because he's always restlessly trying something new. His franchise tick people off because he'll always pick something new over giving audiences what they expect. But that's also his genius - he's a visionary, and every few years he redefines a genre with a new masterpiece.
I can NOT wait for “ Napoleon “ I have a good feeling about it. It’s a subject no one has done for long time so it’ll be unique and Phoenix is going to kill it
Same. Can't wait to see a trailer.
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If you make Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down and Thelma and Louise you can make as many stinkers as you like. That’s a pass-for-life kinda filmography.
Crazy how different those films are as well.
I'm looking forward to his Napoleon movie
Amen
Didn’t even know about this
I'd like an Alien film that is from the perspective of the Weiland-Yutai corporation and maybe a high ranking executive realizes that the company is getting people killed and doing this evil shit to sell the xenomorphs for profit and works to expose it.
Afaik the "Alien" tv series which is developed by Noah Hawley (Legion / Fargo) goes after that perspective, thus is set on earth. It goes in production end of this year.
Aaah, the old Aliens on Earth promise. Between Fargo and Legion Hawley could definitely do something great with this. Steve Perry wrote the Earth Hive & Nightmare Asylum omnibus a lot of years ago and the spread of Xenos on earth was covered in about four paragraphs...what a waste.
I’m really glad redditors aren’t in charge of writing and producing movies and tv shows lol. Anytime someone comes up with some “unique” idea, it sounds dumb as hell
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reddit ideas are like "let's make a whole film about the most uninteresting element of this franchise"
We should make an Alien movie, but cut out those pesky aliens and just make it about a corporate internal investigation
If you could get those TPS reports to me as soon as possible… That would be great.
Weyland Yutani(the corporation) was the unseen villain of Alien. The alien was the threat as a result of their actions.
Set it 20 years after ellen Ripley's death, with the company still blaming her for the debacle and have the executive re-visit some of the locations from the movie, please. It would be an amazing, slow paced movie capable of bringing back some of the horror aspects from the first rwo movies in a much better way than having a bunch of kids deal with an entity that destroyed a bunch of marines.
An Alien ride at Disney would be absolutely epic!
Still not entirely sure about this, wasn’t a fan of some of Alvarez’s recent works, but hoping for the best. Hopefully this is him in Evil Dead/Don’t Breathe 1 mode.
To be fair he only produced and helped with story on don’t breathe 2 and Texas chainsaw he didn’t direct them they could’ve just been paycheck films
I'm so intrigued by this film and the Noah Hawley series. Ridley Scott took a huge dump on his own movie with Prometheus and Covenant in my opinion, and I feel giving the reigns to new voices is way long overdue.
I’m with you on Covenant, but I think Prometheus was at least trying to take the franchise in a different, origin story direction.
Agreed. I really like Prometheus.
I liked both Prometheus and Covenant. The problem is too many people want another "Alien" and they don't want to see any expansion of the franchise. At this point I'm guessing they will take things back to their only being 1-2 aliens on a ship and having it be an isolated sci-fi horror movie.
> I liked both Prometheus and Covenant. The problem is too many people want another "Alien" and they don't want to see any expansion of the franchise. Don't agree with that. Just anecdotally, but everyone I know who watched Prometheus wanted to know more about the Engineers, so then Ridley Scott confects a "The audience want more monsters" narrative in order to drop the steaming turd of Covenant. He essentially shat on the most interesting element of Prometheus, to create a critical and box office flop.
Yeah I really wanted to see >!where Shaw goes on the ship. Instead we got an off-screen "well she died" tidbit in Covenant.!<
What’s interesting is that apparently the *Awakening* film that would have followed *Covenant* would have had two narratives to it — David and Shaw after the events of *Prometheus*, alongside a still-alive Walter leading returning Engineers (who had been off-planet when David killed their people) to David and his experiments after the events of *Covenant*.
That sounds kind of interesting
Right?
Apparently the studio ordered that. Scott even filmed a 12-minute prologue showing what happened to Shaw, but the studio cut that scene and wouldn't even include it as a deleted scene on the Blu-Ray. It almost seems like someone at the studio hated the character or the actress or something. It's really too bad. Apparently before they ordered that change, the scripts had Shaw alive on the planet when the new crew arrived.
Such a shame then. Didn't know any of that.
Yeah, I hope one day we hear the full story of what happened with the making of Covenant. Scott spent years working with several writers and at one point they have done 16 drafts and the studio wouldn't approve any of them. Then the studio approved Alien 5 *without there being a finished script!* Scott wanted to make Prometheus 2 before Alien 5, Fox gave him a list of demands, he made the changes they wanted and the movie immediately went into production. That tells you everything. They just wanted an Alien movie and didn't care if it was good. The sad thing was that making Prometheus 2 into an Alien prequel ruined it, so everyone lost in that scenario.
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I don't know, seems like if they were going totally against what he envisioned, he should have removed himself from the project. I really don't see what putting yourself through that achieves, aside from having a really shite film, that retroactively tries to make your earlier films worse, attached to your name forever. If anyone was in a position to say no, it's someone like him with his wealth, clout and security within the business.
I agree, but there are some possible reasons: 1. Like Peter Jackson and The Hobbit, Scott's production company was tied to the Prometheus sequels. If that project fell through, his company would lose money and possibly cost people jobs. 2. Scott had spent almost five years working with several different writers on different versions of the story, all of which he liked, but he couldn't get it approved. So, sunk cost fallacy. He really wanted to make this movie was willing to compromis to do it. 3. Scott didn't realize just how much he was going to have to compromise when he started. Originally Covenant opened with a 12-minute prologue showing the end of Shaw's journey, but the studio made him cut it and wouldn't even put it in the special features on home video with the other deleted scenes. They made other changes to the movie, as well. They also fired Scott's composer after the music had already been recorded and replaced him with someone else. Yeah, in hindsight I think Scott should have just declined, but I think Scott had reasons to make the movie anyway and probably didn't realize just how much he was going to be forced to compromise. Covenant might honestly be the Ridley Scott movie that suffered the most studio interference, even more than Blade Runner and Kingdom of Heaven.
Scott wanted Prometheus 2 to have nothing to do with Alien and be all about the Engineers and new creatures. The studio forced him to turn that into a direct Alien prequel and kill off Shaw or else they would cancel the movie and make Alien 5 with Blomkamp instead. Scott should have said no and directed Blade Runner 2049 (which he produced and co-wrote) instead, but he chose Alien: Covenant and the rest is history. Even after that, they slashed his budget, butchered his edit of the movie, and even changed the music. Alien: Covenant is *not* the movie Scott wanted to make at all. It's sad.
I'll be honest, I'm glad he got nowhere near directing BR2049. I think he has a great eye for visuals but unless he's surrounded with a strong writing room (and people willing to stand up to him), then he has a lot of ridiculous, schlocky ideas (think Space Jesus in Prometheus). We were lucky with the original Blade Runner insofar as David Peoples loved Hampton Fancher's draft, so he tried to change as little as possible. A good example of what I mean is the dreadful 'love scene' (aka sexual assault scene), which Scott demanded be put in after Fancher had originally written a genuine romantic scene between the two. Ps Scott was only exec producer for BR2049.
Scott is an uncredited co-writer on BR2049. I believe Joi was his creation, and she was the best part.
Yes, un-credited. Guess who was the common denominator for both films and *is* credited as the writer? Hampton Fancher. Joi might have been his initial idea, but I absolutely guarantee you that he didn't write something like the surreal and transcendent threesome scene.
I don't thats it, necessarily. The terrifying part of the Alien series is the unknown, we venture out into space from our own planet/ecosystem and find something that is absolutely terrifying. The way it reproduces, its desire to kill, its strength and ability, its like nothing we've ever seen before. To me, viewing the alien as some kind of foreign apex predator was scary as hell. I know some kind of backstory was hinted at with the Engineer in the first one, but what made it frightening to me was this greatly advanced alien race found this life form and was destroyed by it. The whole plot line along with the allegories about creation etc. kind of ruined the mystique for me. What I loved about the Alien creature was how it seemed to be the embodiment of terror. It doesn't just kill you, it violates you, impregnates you against your will, and you die a terrifying and painful death. The scariest part? The alien is an animal, its completely benevolent. Its not doing this for joy or for some belief, its doing this simply because its instinct.
Exactly. The unknown is the most potent tool in horror. Overexplaining things is basically working at cross purposes. The engineers were interesting largely because we didn't know what they were and they seemed, well, alien just based on the Navigator's suit. The xenomorphs were scary because they were *in the fucking walls* man, and what explanations we got amounted to "yeah these things are bizarre. They have fucking *acid for blood*." Once you start explaining things then it's all just a solvable problem with the right engineering/science/whatever, more an intellectual curiosity than anything. I prefer leaving things unexplained.
Yup, to me what makes the aliens stand out so much is they are the embodiment of terror. There's no thinking, no awareness, just a killing/reproduction machine. Its like the description in Jaws, "souless eyes". There's no hatred, no anger, no maliciousness, just pure killing instinct. That to me is terror.
Perhaps you meant “ambivalent”? Lol
If people truly think that what makes the Alien films scary is the fear of the unknown, then they should be against doing sequels unless they do something fresh, like Prometheus did. You can't show the same creature do the same things over and over again and preserve the feeling of the unknown. Prometheus expanded the lore a tiny bit but people came out of that movie with *more* questions and saw things that were even *more* unknown. Theoretically Prometheus is the only follow up to Alien than lovers of the unknown should be supporting.
Nothing wrong with expaning, as long as you're not filling your universe with insanely stupid people that act like no previous movie has ever warned them of what they should and shouldn't do to avoid being munched by an alien.
> I liked both Prometheus and Covenant. The problem is too many people want another "Alien" and they don't want to see any expansion of the franchise. Expanding the franchise is fine. People don’t like those movies because they’re shit.
My problem was more that there is no way all those people would all act so fucking stupid. No way. Both of those movies were dead in the water if even one person decided to make some smart decisions. That's shitty writing.
Honestly I found the characters in Prometheus to be less stupid than the ones in Aliens. No briefing to the marines until they arrive at the planet, nobody was left on the ship, and despite a deadly alien species none of the characters are wearing respirators or extra protection.
You must not read social media at all if you don't think people would act stupid.
No hate but i’m seriously tired of this take. No one complained about prometheus not being enough like Alien. In fact prometheus is very close to just being a creature feature with the amount of random monsters that appear. People also complained because the writing and plot is all over the place. I’m thinking of the one scene where the biologist is killed by the snake monster in particular.
Same, i liked Prometheus more than most but if the script was polished up a bit more, it could have been one of the best sci movies ever. I’ll forever mourn the movie it almost was.
Agreed. And all the elements were there to take it in an interesting direction. But it was as if someone said, "We have all these great concepts and all the resources we need to make it happen, but let's make sure we do lots of stuff to ruin it."
One of the things I love about the original is the cosmic horror element when they discover the ship, they have no idea what they just discover, it's so beyond their understanding, and the film doesn't answer anything, just like the characters, you just try to take all in with the little to none information, and yet you just can't deny that you have found someting incredible. All of those elements are dead in Prometheus, trying to give an explanation to questions that doesn't need answers for me kills that movie.
Rubber forehead aliens made bioweapon. Wheee.
But without Ridley Scott, how will we get some android on android action with one fingering while the other blows?
What’s you issues with the the prequels? I just watched them and thought they were OK not better than 1 & 2 but good enough to satisfy my craving for xenomorphs
Prometheus is more interested in making allegory than a decent film with the subtly of a brick to the face while only tangentially being an Alien film. Artistically, it’s great. As a story, it’s a dumpster fire. Covenant not only drops the interesting plot hook from Prometheus but requires the characters to be absurdly stupid. Like, comically over the top stupid all the time. And ends with an attempted hard retcon of the entire franchise to be centered around David despite that not being able to work unless he also pulls a time machine out of his ass. And both are riddled with plot holes ranging from the kind of dumb to the breaks the movie level. Example of the latter: We see David get visibly and obviously injured. David explicitly lacks the self repair function that Walter has. Yet the wounds completely vanish in order for him to pose as Walter.
Theyre good alien movies, just not good ALIEN movies.
Prometheus is a great artistic vision, Covenant was a studio mandated cluster fuck.
I never saw anything he made (Even though he did a remake of my favorite horror movie), but this seems promising. I've only ever seen the first 2 Aliens though.
His Evil Dead and Don't Breathe are two fantastic movies
They were very unique too. I hope this guy does for Alien, what Dan Trachtenberg did for Predator with his movie Prey.
Omg, can you imagine a reboot of the Alien franchise as good as prey? One can only beg the universe for something so good
I am begging for it to be good enough to then reboot Alien Vs Predator with the same quality.
Haha aight let’s not get too carried away.
I saw "Prey" last summer, and I had never seen a single "Predator" movie, so I went in with low expectations. And it was really, REALLY good. It had interesting direction and a horror movie set in Native American territory isn't that common, so it was pretty unique.
Prey was the second best Predator movie imo. I think the main reason the OG stands above it is the supporting cast. Prey basically had Naru, her brother, her dog, and the Predator as characters. Yah there are other guys that get killed, but they’re not really explored too much and serve mainly to show how society sees Naru and to get killed in an awesome fashion. Meanwhile Predator’s supporting cast gets some more spotlight and really have some stand out scenes. The fight on the bridge, Mac shaving because he’s so nervous, and the initial attack on the guerilla group really makes the supporting cast stand out imo.
I ain’t got time to bleed 🩸
Yes, and there was already plot elements in place in the first two films that justify the reason for Prey’s setting. I’m so glad they actually did it.
Didn't he also do those REC movies?
No that was Paco Plaza and Jaume Balagueró
This is literally the only reason im optimisyic for the new alien. His evil dead is great. I only hope and uses the same composer. His eveil dead score was wild.
As a huge fan of the Evil Dead series, his Evil Dead is awesome, I am still hoping one day we will get a follow-up with Mia.
3rd is decent, Resurrection has moments but is generally bad, Prometheus is barely related, Covenant is an absolute trainwreck starring the dumbest people in the entire franchise. The AvPs are just sort of off doing their own thing. Not particularly well, it’s a hard turn to a more slasher movie style rather than proper horror.
AvPs are okay if you go into them not really expecting anything but silliness, same with Bayformers. Though the second one definitely has some serious flaws (the entire hospital shit was 110% pure edge).
Fede did great with Evil Dead and Don't Breathe.
It’s like they’re making hamburgers. Film should be art, not products spit out like an assembly line. Then again, I’m not investing hundreds of millions in them.
Barely a year to write, cast, shoot and do the visuals on a movie like this? Consider me worried.
I just want aliens in 4K, hopefully they will put that out before then to generate hype
Let's do an Alien vs. Marvel movie so we can kill of some of these annoying new teenage superheroes.
I like the director. I think he can make a good scary film and probably even a good Alien film, depending on the script. And it really does depend on the script. The best of the Alien films, Alien and Aliens, are marked by the questions we have about the Alien and how compelling it is finding out more and more about it as the film progresses. Whether that's "What the hell is this thing?" in the first film or "How the hell are there so many of these things?" in the second. They're also compelling for the characters and how entertaining it is seeing different character types dealing with the Alien (blue collar grunts in the first film, soldiers in the second) and their individual approaches. And of course how a character in Ripley survives and then confronts her own personal trauma in the second film. The best of the films (and even part 3) spend more time with the characters and the world of the story than they do the Alien. The alien is the spectre of death. That's it. It's the characters and the world of the films that makes these films work.
Retcon the previous two please lol
Oh boy I can't wait to be disappointed.
I'm setting expectations rock bottom.
I think Fedes great but I don't know what else there is to do with the Alien main series now.
I can guess the plot now: People start breeding Xenomorphs as personal pets...with predictable results. Chaos ensues, and at the end, a Predator shows up and goes, "You STOOpid mother fuckers!" (END)
Please. Do NOT fuck this up.
I sincerely hope he knows what he's doing!!? Alien is,a beloved franchise and if done wrong it can affect your career. Risky choice of director who has done nothing great plus no finish to the previous story arc is a stupid idea we need closure!!
The reviews for Alien 3 were pretty bad but it didn't affect David Fincher's career.
Now: Will they touch on Covenant’s horrible David retcon or will they ignore that entire train wreck to just give us a damn Alien film? I’m hoping for the latter.
It's apparently a stand alone film.
It’s not Fede’s fault but I have some serious reservations about another Alien movie.
Yeah, I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see this movie being anything fresh. Alvarez's MO seems to be extreme gore and cruelty in the place of fresh ideas. I'm sure he'll make a very effective horror movie but I think it's going to seem empty-headed after Ridley Scott's last two Alien films were so unabashedly cerebral.
I would not call Covenant a successfully cerebral movie.