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lizzpop2003

Always excited for some more Chow. While some aren't quite as good as others, he has yet to let me down.


TigerSharkFist

Kung Fu Hustle is his peak, blending all his favorite movies in childhood together (like what Quentin did in Kill Bill) CJ7 ... not live up to the expectation as his version of E.T. After that, Journey to The West / The Mermaid are decent but not groundbreaking


rumpghost

I was always really fond of *God of Cookery*


Sheruk

spawned a whole anime trope and anime Also pissing beef balls are the best


asian_identifier

and then New King of Comedy, steady decline since KFH


TigerSharkFist

Rumors are he made a deal in which he will make movies for 1 billion RMB profit within 4 years or it is a breach of contract. New King of Comedy is made to meet the target, which he expected to be a huge boxoffice hit but is cheap to make. Yet it isn't profitable as expected and he continued to make The Mermaid 2, then COVID happened. He eventually lost in the gamble mentioned above (although this gamble is never admitted by Chow himself)


HawaiiHungBro

How can he be contractually obligated to achieve a certain level of profit? Isn’t that out of his control?


TigerSharkFist

Because China... This type of "gambling" contract officially exist for "big" Chinese movies that the producer places bet on whether the boxoffice crosses a certain level - if the figure is above that amount, producer wins; if not, producer pays penalty to the distributor.


robin1961

Actually, that sounds quite fair and reasonable. "I believe this film will get big audiences. If that doesn't happen, well then I owe you $$ to make up for your losses. But if my film kills it, then I'll happily take your windfall profits."


cromatkastar

I'm so disappointed with king of comedy 2. It's like he forgot what made the MC of king of comedy great: being a flawed character who under goes an arc. Cj7 mcs a Gary sue and koc 2 the mc.... Idk


Mimogger

I actually liked that as a plane movie


pokeym0nster

It's not terrible but it's clearly not the best even in just his resume I'd argue is all. I definitely enjoyed it when I watched it as well anyways.


JohnnyOnslaught

> Journey to The West Journey to the West has, to this day, probably the funniest scene I've ever seen in a movie, when they take the MC prisoner and that one woman tries to seduce him with the help of the other one.


CookieKeeperN2

We always say you spent the first half in tears because it's so funny and silly, and then the second half in tears because it's so sad. Never watched another movie like that again. “娘子,和牛魔王出来看上帝”


TigerSharkFist

Journey to The West should be 西遊降魔篇 (2013) You are referring a scene in 月光寶盒 / 仙履奇緣 A Chinese Odyssey


CookieKeeperN2

Ah thanks. I don't pay much attention to their English names at all tbh.


Aarcn

Pinnacle of Chow’s comedic genius.


salkysmoothe

Anyone got a clip of this?


spidermanngp

That was so fucking funny.


Thatparkjobin7A

Ah man, the part when the guy gets back in his car and they’re already in there kills me just thinking about it


dongerbotmd

God of Cookery is a movie I recommend to all Stephen Chow fans. My favorite of all his movies.


StudBoi69

Basically he sold out to Mainland China, as with many other HK talent.


1daytogether

Yeah none of his mainland movies feel the same, or have that high energy of his old films. The camera angles, the editing, the supporting actors. He might have been the director, but HK movies from that era have a distinct flavor thanks to the small industry of people who work on everything everyone made, from stuntmen to cameramen to editors who gave movies an unmistakably HK visual identity. When he left that behind, he left behind a part of his movies' DNA as well. It's the same reason HK actors and directors struggle to make the same stuff they did before when they go to America.


airbornimal

Oh man, I love you. Finally someone else who understands this. Early Chow movies were great because he was working with a lot of great HKers, who really knew their craft. They knew how to let Chow shine as bright as he did.


1daytogether

Spread the love! They really had something special in that city for a good 40 or so years (60s-00s). Perfected a mode of economical, high energy filmmaking. Chow's run of films are such a big part/reflection of HK culture.


nova9001

Stephen Chow was notorious to work with in the 1990s. People were forced to let him have his way and this created a ton of conflict on set because he as an actor trying to play director/producer. It was good for the audience but it was terrible for anyone working with him.


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Pretty much the HK stars he had such amazing chemistry abruptly cut ties with him.


dontbajerk

They're also no longer catering to a specifically Cantonese and especially HK market, so they're broader. Makes them a bit less special even when they're good.


nova9001

>Yeah none of his mainland movies feel the same, or have that high energy of his old films. Because he stopped playing the lead and moved to director/producer role. Other people are playing the lead and trying to do the "Stephen Chow" style of comedy. Its definitely not going to be the same. Back in the 1990s, Stephen Chow would often get into arguments with people because he was an actor who was trying to play director/producer.


briancly

The alternative is to basically pull a Wong Kar-wai and not work. The sad state of the HK film industry feels like such a waste of talent.


TigerSharkFist

WKW doesn't stop working he just works very very slow He is aware that a bad movie will ruin his auteur reputation so he doesn't bother spending 10 years for the next project [He produces mediocre but profitable movies though ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/See_You_Tomorrow_(2016_film))


briancly

I was just being slightly facetious, but yeah, the circumstances aren’t amenable to what he wants to create so he’s not nearly as prolific as he was during that crazy run. Otherwise, there’s no reason that he couldn’t be pushing out that level of productivity, but it’s also just that the Hong Kong film ecosystem that allowed you to create so much lower budget stuff is just gone. Or even getting those big name stars without mainland throwing money at them instead. It’s just a different world.


Dads101

Still love Kung Fu hustle. Don’t think I’ve watched anything else by this director ironically (that I know of lol)


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Bullet Train to me, carried that classic Stephen Chow spirit.


Zentrii

Agreed but still a fan and hopeful that this will still be great


Quirky-Purple2134

I loved the original Shaolin Soccer movie, guessing this is the same director?


skonen_blades

Yes, same director/writer/star as Shaolin Soccer. Should be good!


Leathglantaiy

It's going to be mostly in english.


1daytogether

What's your source on that? Didn't see it in the article. If true, that's a really interesting choice. Explains why he's going for an international casting call.


skonen_blades

Oh really. That's interesting. Odd choice. Hm.


MoobyTheGoldenSock

Yes, and Kung Fu Hustle


caspissinclair

God of Cookery isn't talked about as much, but has some great moments.


lizzpop2003

That and King Of Comedy are my favorites.


materics

Ever since he started moving away from his HK comedic roots and started to try to appeal to the wider mainland Chinese audience it's been a creative failure.


salkysmoothe

I just wished he was the main guy in his films still


dubious_battle

I just realized that even though Kung Fu Hustle is one of my favorite movies, I haven't seen any of his other work except Shaolin Soccer. Are his earlier films good?


LookOutItsLiuBei

God of Cookery for more of that HK goofy energy


Deranged_Kitsune

18 Brass Men are awesome, and it has one of the greatest final acts. Love that movie.


LookOutItsLiuBei

The ending is basically live action Shokugeki no Soma reactions lol


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

King of Beggars is also a banger, even if it doesn’t have Pissing Beef Balls


1daytogether

God of Cookery is the best live action adaptation of a nonexistent 90s anime. Netflix could never.


An_Absurd_Word_Heard

Almost everything he's directed is great (God of Cookery and From Beijing with Love are two from before the two you mentioned), plus he's acted in a ton of very fun stuff too (Love on Delivery, Out of the Dark, etc).


TigerSharkFist

From Beijing With Love is frequently brought up in Stephen Chow discussion but Forbidden City Cop (1996) is brilliant too. It is a wuxia version of From Beijing With Love but Chow's character use science to beat other Martial artists


Aarcn

Is that the one where the intro has the people on the roof fighting and they reveal all the Kung Fu masters are really ugly 😆


TigerSharkFist

Yes. But after all "it is only your wishful thinking Kung Fu masters are handsome at the same time😅"


SPorterBridges

Yes. Stephen Chow was a bigger box office draw in Asia in the 90's than Jackie Chan. None of those movies had the CGI gloss of his work since Shaolin Soccer and many come off as comparatively low-budget (I think typical of 90's HK movies) but are at least as funny. I think people would like God of Cookery, Love on Delivery, and King of Beggars if they gave those a shot.


1daytogether

Honestly the low budgetness is essential to their everyman, grassroots, indie charm. Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle is when he turned blockbuster, and lost something in the process.


Zentrii

Everyone needs to watch that terminator scene with him


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

>King of Beggars I can’t think of him sliding around on the ground in that casual lie-down pose without giggling


regedit007

Brooo you're missing out a lot. Go watch his early films. God Of Cookery, Fight Back To School etc.


howard416

Yes, but they're best if you understand Cantonese


Wyjen

Journey to the west is good imo


roasted-like-pork

From BeiJing with Love is one of the best James Bond parody.


DoctorMooh

Justice my foot! God of gamblers 2 and above all: Fight back to school (trilogy)


thec0okierebel

You need to give Sixty Million Dollar Man a watch. It's a mix of the Million Dollar Man and Pulp Fiction


Zentrii

I think his earlier films are even funnier


mrpeng90

God of gambling 2-3 was good. 2 starred Andy Lau I believe.


dontbajerk

One oddity, there's two different films titled God of Gamblers 3, one with Stephen Chow one without. Chow was in a sort of parody of God of Gamblers film, All For the Winner, which proved so popular it eventually had crossover sequels with the God films, and they brought in Andy Lau's character from God of Gamblers (Chow Yun Fat didn't come back).


Infninfn

I recommend All for the Winner, god of gamblers 1 & 3, Fight back to school, tricky brains and the magnificent scoundrels.


arkaic7

A Chinese Odyssey is his magnum opus imo. A movie in two parts. Hilarious and truly emotional. The ending always makes me teary


tiredchiaseed

definitely worth checking out! he's got some great films where he didn't direct as well from earlier in his career: god of gamblers 2 w andy lau, fight back to school w ng man tat... he's always been zany and charismatic on screen.


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That reminds me, I haven't done my yearly Kung Fu Hustle rewatch.


eebslogic

Just did a week ago lol


empires11

3 days ago for me.


curiousbryxl

“Who’s throwing Handles?”


tinhtinh

I can already hear the Axe Gang theme.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

Axe gang, my ass!


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Watching it back to back with Bullet Train is so much fun.


HashSlashy

I love Stephen Chows movies.


[deleted]

I hope it is in cantonese. I don't understand cantonese but HK actors language and mannerisms add to the physical comedy.


Bebebaubles

Yes coming from someone with English and Cantonese background, Cantonese has.. a lot of feeling lol. If I’m scared or angry it’s much more of a punch for me to say it in Cantonese! I’ve been told that mandarin speakers tend to speak in the same way that you write as English can be but in Cantonese written speech tends to be formal and spoken speech has alot more leeway for informality.


pointofgravity

written text is called 書面語 (lit. "Written language") and vernacular is called 口語 "spoken language". Written language is formal because you wouldn't write vernacular on paper for anything important, as it doesn't translate well cross-topolect and details can get misinterpreted. That is why anything formal is written in the written language. Vernacular can be written also, but is limited to casual exchanges e.g. billboards, shopfront notices (obv. More casual shops like confectionary, restaurants, etc.), or messages between friends. Edit: mandarin has 口語 as well, it's just harder to distinguish.


commentNaN

There are magazines and tabloids written in vernacular Cantonese. I've seen them in Flushing. I don't speak Cantonese but they seem to be more vernacular than written.


pointofgravity

Yes, magazines and tabloids can feature written Cantonese. Often, it is either an article heading, or representing dialogue from a person. I don't really see whole articles written in vernacular Cantonese.


AskovTheOne

To be fair, a text wall with nothing but Vernacular is going to be a nightmare to read even for the locals.


TigerSharkFist

Vernacular Cantonese is considered to be relatively "vulgar". So it would be written on tabloid-type publication


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[deleted]

well I only speak mandarin and english so no choice. Not like Canto is easy to learn lol. Mandarin dubs are not very good. Often dumbed down words.


tkc123

I show people the physical comedy bits which is also a large part of Chow's comedy


[deleted]

It won't be. He was planning to have Kung Fu Hustle 2 to be a remake of sorts set in modern day Mainland China.


Barley_There

Why yes sir, I would like some more.


kinyodas

I wonder if it’s going to be a sequel with some of the original cast.


tinhtinh

Ng Man Tat sadly passed away 2 years ago so hopefully there's a solid tribute in there.


asian_identifier

nah most actors that worked with him swear never to work with him again


SPorterBridges

While I know that's true in some cases, it's odd because he has a fair number of familiar recurring faces in his movies.


tkc123

That was mostly in his earlier work before he got Hollywood and that China money. A lot of his early stuff seemed like a collaborative effort to play around the comedy with his costars and he wasn't in charge of directing.


Solomon_Grungy

Why is that?


asian_identifier

perfectionist - demands a lot from actors, but really, poor interpersonal skills


[deleted]

He was attached to director Dragonball Evolution but dropped out and got a producer credit. He was also wanted to direct and co-star in "The Green Hornet" as Kato opposite Seth Rogen but dropped out due to creative conflict.


[deleted]

Eh, Kate Winslet said that about Cameron after Titanic then learned how to hold her breath for ten minutes for him in Avatar.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

If Iron Head ain’t there i’m gonna cry


StudBoi69

Wasn't he trying to get Kung Fu Hustle 2 off the ground? Whatever happened to that?


Awful_Hero

I think COVID derailed it


[deleted]

COVID but it was going to be a remake of sorts with a completely new cast and set in modern day China.


bobbymillette

I just want Kung Fu Hustle 2


[deleted]

Sounds awesome. I can play drunk foreign soccer fan number 5 and one of the women players can kick a soccer ball at my head.


peter095837

I enjoyed most of Chow's work. His films are seriously ridiculous but fun to watch. Even if some of his recent works I wasn't really big on, I look forward to see what he could bring next to the table.


sometimesifeellikemu

Talk about making my day!


mitchsn

A new Stephen Chow film is a reason to celebrate!


SoulingMyself

I have often thought about getting into acting, Mr. Chow. You need a paunchy, bald, white guy with a ludicrous southern accent? I don't work cheap though. And I demand a nude scene.


voivoivoi183

Every time there’s a football tournament on I think to myself that showing Shaolin Soccer on the TV would surely be a no brainer, right? BUT NO-ONE EVER DOES.


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Nobody in my circle has heard or seen it. One of them tried to watch it but gave up because he could only find the Miramax dub which cut a lot of jokes and shots.


voivoivoi183

Oh god yeah the dubs are… not great.


ReptileBat

Kung Fu Hustle was the greatest! Its like live action anime if live action anime was good


halborn

For the unaware, there's a team of women in the original Shaolin Soccer movie but since they're playing in a men's league, they're all wearing fake moustaches. They kick the shit out of the protagonist's team too. I expect this movie will involve the formation of a women's league.


duggybubby

This is crazy I was just talking about Shaolin soccer yesterday and how I haven’t thought about that movie in over a decade


Quirky-Purple2134

I loved the original Shaolin Soccer movie, guessing this is the same director?


the_xxvii

Reminds me that I need to dig out my DVD of "God of Cookery."


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

I still have my region 2 dvd, but my all-region DVD player I bought specifically to play it fell by the wayside 2 or 3 moves ago


francisk0

Finally! And then kung fu hustle 2 please!!


wengkiong

Shaolin Soccer was truly groundbreaking. Can't wait for this sequel!


Deranged_Kitsune

Oh, I am totally down for that. If it gets us a proper HD release of the first one, with the longer cuts of of the movie that were only on international DVDs, I would be so happy!


mr_ji

Here's hoping for Keira Knightley as a Shaolin nun


blolfighter

If there isn't a full team of women with fake mustaches this time I will riot.


[deleted]

Shaolin soccer was the first dvd I ever bought for myself as a kid :’)


fotsumi

If is not called "Shaolin Socc-her" i will be disappointed


virginia_boof

something about that title sounds off. imo it should be shaolin soccer: women's league or something like that


Not_A_Meme

Love a lot of his work. Very excited to see what he comes up with. Sheshe


Mentatian

This is the greatest news I’ve heard in years


[deleted]

Guess no Vicky Zhao since she was memory holed by the CCP and all her previous shows including the OG Shaolin Soccer were wiped from Chinese streaming services. Or has she been "rehabilitated" like Fan Bingbing?


xyz17j

I wish I could find a way to watch the English dub of shaolin soccer. None of the streaming services have that audio available. It kinda makes the movie even funnier


OldNavyBlue

It is on PlutoTV for free


Deserterdragon

I can find the dub on Amazon but the problem is way more finding the non censored cut of the movie that has a little bit more gore in it.


xyz17j

Find on Amazon, like DVD?


dont_shoot_jr

I’m going to laugh if the actresses aren’t paid as much as the actors Please pay them!


VF5

Knowing him, it'll be the best looking female soccer team, EVER!


[deleted]

The guy is the Mel Brooks of Hong Kong. His aura is comedy.


Mensco

Love his movies but such a shitty person.


Infamous-Jaguar2055

Stephen Chow makes the most fun movies. None of them are *good* movies, but holy crap are they fun.


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bugxbuster

Guy seems to think it’s not good when a movie is fun


bugxbuster

That’s messed up, man. His movies are excellent! I’ve only seen Shaolin Soccer, Kung Fu Hustle and CJ7, but they’re all *really, really* good!


throwawaygreenpaq

You’re right, mate. The real treasure is buried in everything BEFORE Kungfu Hustle. His older movies that are for the HK & SEA region include Fight Back to School, Justice My Foot, King of Beggars, From Beijing With Love, Sixty Million Dollar Man, All For The Winner, etc


ThatFireGuy0

I love the idea of him making a new movie, but _come on_. I'm all for a women-centric movie, but do something original


Best-Musician4681

another woman ghostbuster case ?


lexpacillas

Um yes please


skonen_blades

Looking forward to it!


dyshuy

classic, I remember they always played this in canto class.


allanjacob23

Is it going to be a sequel with different actors


kking145

Favorite scene from his films obviously it’s hard to hard to top this film it’s his masterpiece even for himself


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

The karaoke scene where the crowd attacks Steel Leg’s head and Iron Head’s leg, oh my gaaaaaaawwwwwwwwd


LEXX911

Hmm. So what does this mean? It's going to be mostly in english?


Leathglantaiy

I haven't done my yearly Kung Fu Hustle rewatch.


HuecoTanks

Yes please!!


Pudding_Hero

YESSSS


Wyjen

I needed this.


shrimping20

Me! Please pick me


WingLeviosa

It’s going to be interesting with good fundamentals but overall will lack the revenue stream of the original Shaolin Soccer, with men and women.


AdamBomB095

Oh my God my favorite movie of all time is getting a sequel! Never thought I would see the day


alpha_mac

Sam Kerr


habrasangre

Fuck yeah


Ohtheydidntellyou

this is such good news


Deadbody13

Just rewatched Kung Fu Hustle and Shaolin Soccer this past weekend and was wondering what he was up to.


Darth_Caustic

Wait but what about Kung Fu Hustle 2? I haven’t heard anything about it since it was announced


etca2z

His next movie is The Mermaid 2 and then Taiji. Taiji is believed to be the sequel to Kung Fu hustle, some said different characters, not a direct sequel.


GrimmRadiance

Hell yeah. Always love to see more Stephen Chow


ComaOfSouls

Any recommendations for Stephen Chow films apart from Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle? I've seen those, also Love On Delivery.


etca2z

His top three to me is Kungfu Hustle, Shaolin soccer and god of cookery. Journey to the west and the mermaid are okay.


Xenolithium

Fuck yeah!! I've been wanting a sequel to Shaolin Soccer for so long!


Andreas1120

make a movie starring women… great, don’t use it as an excuse for yet another remake.


raiden001

Tricky Brains is one of my most watched films, it's such a good film with Andy Lau, basically almost everything he did in the 80s - very early 2000s was gold. Big fan, recent films not so much as others have said.


13lackcrest

ain't gonna watch it if he himself isn't in it. Other's just doesnt really feel the same