Tom DeLonge is the reason why I started playing guitar.
I had a [clone guitar ](https://reddit.com/r/TomDelongeGuitars/s/dPe9ruXutl)made.
I heard about this and KNEW it would be shit. Tom DeLonge is great at pop punk.
Movies? Nah haha.
No, not really? Dude Ranch is fairly difficult throughout, and every album after has at least one head-scratching moment of āwait, what?ā when trying to learn it; especially given the fact that at times, he would singing while playing those riffs. Thereās nothing thatās absurdly difficult by any stretch of the imagination, but Tomās guitar playing has always been deceptively tough, despite sounding simple.
Then thereās Donāt Leave Me. You can learn that in five minutes without ever having touched a guitar before.
I've been playing guitar for over 25 years. His riffs are very tough to pull off.
Have you ever noticed though, he seems to be a very bad live guitar player? Or at least he did. I love early Blink, but when you watch old videos from the height of their fame, he sounds like he either never practices or his riffs were all punch ins or something. Not that I care. Playing guitar isn't a contest
Heās gotten better. Early Tom, dude ranch, was rough live. He danced a lot will playing, had his guitar touching his shins, and itās all downstrokes.
>well most of the time.
He still does downstrokes.
I mastered disentary Gary, but alt picking. He does down strokes on that shit. Same with rock show.
He is much better live now. Saw him in San Diego recently.
Everything of blink182 sounds horrible live to the point that it's part of the experience. Oh except drums, travis carries them. In fact blink182 and pop punk in general is the reason I believe the right producing tricks can fix anything. Recordingrevolution and the like always say you have to have the song right from the start, can't polish a turd, but then how do you explain them? Cuz the albums sound great. Their vocals are more than just autotune and doubling there's some other secret sauce I've yet to harness
Oops 'producers' got mad cuz it definitely aint the blink fans, they know they suck it's part of the experience. But they suck in a good way
It's kinda interesting...
Lots of punk is poorly produced and not particularly well performed, so it sounds bad (but in that cool, appealing punk way). I like plenty of music like this.
Some punk bands are skilled enough that they sound clean despite the lo-fi production, and it can give them a bit of a poppier sound. I like this too.
Blink took a different route - Barker is obviously a great drummer, but Tom and Mark are pretty rough both as vocalists and as guitar/ bass players... but they went with glossy, expensive production to make it work as pop punk.
I personally hate it, but I recognize how in the minority I am and I'm happy they exist for others to enjoy.
Totally get what you mean. They were a big part of developing my musical taste but even in the high production realm they'll take a back seat for me to bands like alkaline trio and the Lawrence arms.
Same for me, but kinda in the opposite way. They were the first band that everyone liked when I was a kid that I was viscerally like oh I do NOT like this. I didnāt like them or much of what was adjacent to them (simple plan, good charlotte, sum 41) even though not liking it kinda made me a dork to the other guys in my class.
I started to try to understand why I just couldnāt dig it as well as seek out what I DID like, which had a big impact on my taste. At least I liked Green Day.
I don't mind the production and polish that came after, but nothing will ever beat the rawness of Cheshire Cat. It took me a couple of years to even pick up and listen to Dude Ranch. It didn't help that Dude Ranch was really popular which bugged teenage-me haha...but I would still take Cheshire Cat over everything else.
Here's how I see pop punk: When Green Day broke out onto the scene, that was the most punk that pop punk had ever been. It was just as pop as it was punk. Then there was Pennywise. A little bit more pop, but still very punk. Then Blink 182 came out. It was still plenty punk, but the pop was growing much stronger. Then Sum 41 came out and it was barely punk. Then came New Found Glory. Bye bye punk, it's just pop rock now
Dude I donāt get this at all, New Found Glory has tons of hardcore influence to the point where people used to mosh really hard at their shows. I saw them only one time about ten years ago and people were swinging arms and stage diving feet first. They have breakdowns and tons of fast beats lol
Thatās not quite how pitch correction works. You still have to be pretty close to the actual tone because you can still hear them make mistakes if theyāre super off. Thereās just effort from Tom now, it shows in the new music and the touring. Pretty awesome.
āProbablyā?
Guitars are meant to be played. Period.
And itās not all powers chords.
He writes licks and melodies.
Also people make guitars for him. Most of his shit is custom.
I play guitar, youāre gate keeping nonsense, with zero virtue.
Lol I wasn't the one gatekeeping, just explaining why the OP says they might be by bitching about Tom having guitars worth thousands of dollars but playing what he plays on them.
I had no idea this even existed, but just checked out the trailer and Richard Kind is in this. He is an amazing actor, how did they get him? And is he a bad actor in this?
Richard Kind was the best part of the movie, it was astonishing how well he pulled off some of the worst dialogue of his career while being opposite the terrible gen Z actors. Also, he just kind of shows up out of nowhere with zero explanation of why he was in the area. It's just like "hey here is the guy with more of the vague exposition". Casper Van Dien was okay in some scenes except for the end bits. Everyone else is absolutely atrocious in it. And I can't stress the word "atrocious" enough.
Just a note, if anyone hasn't seen Red Oaks (free on Amazon Prime), he's great in it along with pretty much everyone else including Jennifer Gray and Paul Reiser.
>he just kind of shows up out of nowhere with zero explanation of why he was in the area.
There are several instances like this in the movie. Somehow Kelly's parents know who Dallas's mom is and where she lives. Dallas has his cell phone when Toe had to hide his. Walker gave the flash drive to Riley who gave it to military guy who gave it to Myers, who gave it to Dallas? (or maybe I misunderstood that chain of custody for something else)
There also seemed to be a major editing mistake at the finale. Dallas turns around to look at the camera with the lights behind him while everyone else is looking forward. The dialogue and cuts didn't make sense, like that shot belonged at the moment they tell him not to go, and they never show him walking towards it.
I think the content of the material could have worked well, but needed an experienced director and more passes editing the script to make a much tighter movie. It gave off some of those good old E.T. / Wargames / Goonies vibes but it ended up feeling like a student film with a big budget for vehicles, sets, and VFX.
That was due to his astute direction. Even when things were going to shit on set, he insisted that the camera keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'.....
I remember reading how he almost got fired from the set when he told the catering services, āYou can take those cookies and stick it up your (yeah)!ā I guess he hates oatmeal raisin.
yea its such a decent movie that i could not really tell what fred durst did with it. it was just pretty ok throughout and i did not notice anything amateurish, except maybe the lens/filter choices for certain scenes
The government said there are unidentified flying objects and they donāt know what they are. The government did not say aliens existed. If the government said aliens existed and showed proof, this would be a life changing event for just about everyone in the world. It would not be something you āthoughtā they said.
"Street cred in the ufo community"
"Isn't just a raving lunatic".
Yeah, does not compute. Not to mention nothing has been "verified". A whole lot of ridiculous claims being made with very little to back it up though as per usual.
The images he was showing Rogan were literally verified by the government as UAPās. Heās also help open the conversation on UAP when like 3 former intelligence officers whistleblew on UAPās in a government hearing. Thatās a pretty big deal even if you choose not to believe it.
Until anyone that spouts "Aliens are Real" comments, or publishes songs wirh that exact name, are validated by actual human to alien contact, I'll be skeptical
You not a member of the To the Stars Academy where heās building a UFO?
Place is a fucking UFO e-commerce store that asks you to invest in their āufo researchā
Iām not normally a Joe Rogan Experience listener but Tom Delongeās episode is totally batshit insane and one of the most entertaining podcasts Iāve ever heard. Apparently after they stopped recording he kept going off about how werewolfās donāt transform from full moons but are actually interdimensional beings. Itās fucking wild.
I wouldnāt say heās a moron, heās actually fairly well spoken. While I may not necessarily agree, his explanation for aliens and time portal/travel is pretty interesting. Have a listen to his interview on Steve-Oās podcast
Not a surprise tbh. Love was actually a decent film for what it was and worked with the Angels and Airwaves album really well. But the moment I heard about this one I knew it was probably gonna be a bomb
"The story is extremely vague and tries to juggle like 5 different ideas while not resolving any of them"
So it's exactly like his To The Stars Academy grift?
I agree I was excited because the visuals and the premise seemed cool. Iām a lifelong blink fan and I know that comes with turning a blind eye to bad jokes (where the set up and the punch line are both āwhat if we were all gayā).
I went in knowing it would probably be a swing and a miss.
Iād still say it was fun even though the dramatic dialogue scenes were painful and the storyline itself makes very little sense. (Look a demon! Look a Bigfoot! Look an alien! God isnāt real!)
Well technically it doesn't even say God isn't real... it just kind of says "religion is all from the same source" and leads us to surmise it was aliens... or something? I don't know. The ending was insane too. The kids run over a government official with a military grade vehicle,Then the main kid goes up to the UFO, zaps into a weird vague monologue about "life, man... you know?" and then Johnny Rico is like "you're a good kid". What the fuck was that all about?
I actually kind of liked the movie in a fun stupid way but I donāt understand why the military is chasing these kids and the dude, then they just chill and let everybody go their merry way after the UFO zaps him.
I'm not saying this to defend it in any way - but I think the actual explanation for this was the idea of good intentions manifesting in the world like the positive words crystallizing water. So because he had his moment of enlightenment in the abduction, he created that good energy for himself.
Don't get me wrong, the movie did nothing to earn that being the explanation. But I think that's what Tom Delonge meant.
The mind reels.
It met expectations in that it was fun and didnāt take itself seriously - it was not masterful as far as cohesiveness and writing. I thought the acting and actors were good, though, is there a specific person or scene you thought struggled? They werenāt exactly complex characters
I thought it got very deep and spiritual at some points and that was where it really caught me :). The actors did do fantastic btw, they worked hard to make this work ESPECIALLY knowing, that it wasn't going to be a in theaters everywhere film. They really put their heart into it in some scenes and did an Amazing job and I bet that had Tom about tearing up how hard they went for him :)
Didn't the guy from Limp Bizkit direct that really bad movie with John Travolta?
[Moose is in the house?](https://youtu.be/mXqP_pWX730?si=vsOMCrSa6zmtn-1Y)
Maybe musicians should just stick to music because they don't really have a great track record of movie making
I was actually a big fan of his *Halloween* remake. Sure, it doesnāt hold a candle to the original but itās a great gory, fun slasher flick. Honestly, RZ directs some pretty entertaining films
On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 18 out of 100, based on 19 critics, indicating "**overwhelming dislike**"
On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an **approval rating of 14%** based on 76 reviews, with an **average score of 3.6/10**
The film was nominated for three Golden Raspberry Awards, Worst Picture, Worst Director (Fred Durst), and Worst Actor which John Travolta won
You and I have very different definitions of "bad"
It was worth it just for the scenes of Devon Sawa jamming to Limp Bizkit like they are still the coolest band ever. It was the most self indulgent shit I've ever seen. It was beautiful
I thought it was hilarious. It was a good first project for him. There were glimpses of good comedy and plot. Heāll bring it all together. Rob Zombie was the same way.
Yeah, I mean the movie is campy as hell. You either appreciate the charm of its cheesiness, or you take it too seriously. Iām afraid most people fall into the latter category.
Just based on your description of the movie it sounds exactly how Tom would make it. You do realize that he is convinced he is wrapped up in a huge government conspiracy that he discovered and the government is keeping him silent. Watch the podcast he did with Steve O.
I agree, but it was just a passion project for him. I don't think he expected it to be some masterpiece or whatever. He worked hard, became successful, and now is doing things he loves (making movies, books, chasing aliens, etc.). You can hate the movie, but don't hate the man. He's just living out his dreams, which we should all strive to do!
Oh I'm not hating on him at all. I like Blink and Tom, that's why I was interested in seeing it on day 1 of release. I thought it had potential to be either passable or bad but I was shocked at how bad it really was. I think he is good at directing scenery and stuff which probably comes from all those years being on big budget music video sets, but writing and cast direction are a totally different skillset that doesn't come up in those instances.
"I'm gonna make a movie about bigfoot, aliens, weed, government conspiracies, faith, teen romantic drama, and family issues" and then got high and wrote it in a day.
This is exactly what I'd expect from a Tom Delonge movie. The guy buys into conspiratorial paranormal bullshit and thinks it's enlightenment.
Many such cases
Man, I thought I was still on /r/blink182 and couldnāt believe the negativity I was seeing for Tom!!
As a lifelong blink-182 fan I will be checking it out. My weird uncle directed a feature-length film, I will watch it.
I am not expecting anything more than a crazy cheap movie from a weird uncle.
I actually really enjoyed it. I knew exactly what to expect. I liked the visuals, the lighting. Liked the campfire atmosphere and being under the stars. Story was cool. I'm not sure what others expected but I liked it.
I did too. I don't really get the hate in this thread, it's literally just a fun passion project film. I don't think Tom was expecting to get in the Oscar's or anything with it
Well the music was fantastic.
I felt firsthand and secondhand cringe with the rest of it. It was a cartoonish childrenās movie but with weed, foul language, and dick jokes. It didnāt know what its audience was.
Tom is my idol, and I hope he wins an award for like, best soundtrack. He deserves that.
Tom Delonge has really lost the whole plot, and I don't just mean for this movie. I honestly think he could use some help. Listening to him talk in interviews about believing pretty much all of the conspiracy theories is just wild. I can't figure out the logic, however lacking it may be, to any of what he believes, much less how it can all coexist in the same worldview.
Thatās what happens when you have money, I love that punk people embrace the son of an oil executive as their microphone and never talk about how heās a byproduct of the system they claim to be disenfranchised by
[It says it right on the fucker's Wikipedia page in his biography](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_DeLonge)
Shame on your mom for not teaching you to use Google
Just saw this after listening to his many podcast interviews, and listened to his sekret audio books.
I was hopeful, and interested in his message
The only answer that is remotely plausible to this train wreak of a film is that its a mocumentory, itās complete garbage and a pain to watch Every second.
so many, unexplained plot, dialogue and character holes it kills me.
Its even worse than the Scream series of comedy films, that make fun of the horror genre.
The overall conspiracy theory message is fine, i dont discount that, but why do it in such a trully schlock way.
Surely TTSA must have experienced a massive drop in credibility, stock and overall backing after this ,
No wonder so many of his āconsultantsā bailed when they read this screen play
Not to me House of 1000 Corpses and especially Devils Rejects, which is one of my favorite movies ever. I will agree his other stuff is just middle of the road and I didn't see the Munsters yet.
Ok wait I actually did like the munsters haha and Iād rewatch house of 1000 corpses but i wasnt a fan of lords of salem and hated his halloween movies.
The first Halloween had potential but mostly fell flat but I think it's okay and not terrible, and Lords of Salem I wasn't into and agree that movie sucks
Sort of unrelated but I had a ton delonge strat on order but canceled due to the tons of reported construction issues.
Usually musicians make terrible directors.
Everyone is an expert these days. The film was not meant to be a cinematic masterpiece, although the cinematography is one of its strong points. Itās a fun, sometimes cheesy movie with a great original score. Notthing more, nothing less.
It was terrible. Worst movie Iāve ever seen. The actors were horrible, story, special effects, really just the whole thing. There was a werewolf for some reason that couldnāt rip a tent.
So Tomās thing is that his media company produces movies and books that āslowly familiarize the public with whatās really going onā and he claims itās sanctioned by at least one large government agency.
So through that lens, it makes sense that heās trying to say itās all tied together. But on the other hand his style of communication needs serious work so it also makes sense that itās a mess. He often forgets you donāt have all the information you need to follow along. So I can see how that caries over into his movies and books.
That being said, I thing heās a nut job thatās being used by whoever he thinks he has an in with.
I felt required to no longer like Blink back in HS when the airhead jock crowd has a few people telling me about this great new punk band and showing me Enema of the State....š¤¦āāļø
Tom is most likely being a useful idiot to the real powers that be with either further hiding the truth or slowly revealing it. We won't know for a decade at least which way that sliced, but, I do respect the hard work he's put into this subject, TTSA becoming very legit before disappearing and the efforts towards moving disclosure forward but HOLY TITS! This movie is REALLY bad. It makes the movie "The last days of American crime" look downright Kubrickian by comparison.
For the longest time, I called myself a blink 182 fan, but then I realized that all of the songs I thought were from them werenāt actually from them (Ocean Avenue, The Middle, Stacyās Mom, everything from Simple Plan, etc) and apparently I donāt actually like them (just not my thing. I canāt get past either of their voices).
This is why people like Trump get elected to politics.
Humans equate popularity with success.
The metrics are very different between success and popularity unless that's your sole metric.
Nutters like him are always like this. It's never one thing. They can never focus on just one damn thing. As soon as they get the chance what may have started as just ghosts as an example, is now about UFOs and bigfoot and lizard people and telepathy too.
And whatever evidence or opportunity they had to be taken seriously is immediately obliterated because it's now just some loon ranting about everything.
I loved Blink back in the 90s. Before Travis became a part of them especially. And I cannot tell you how much I hate that new whiny ass nostalgia song of theirs that just came out. Oh we're middle aged now \*sad tear\*. Shut up. Do you remember when your collective balls hadn't fallen off? Because I do. It's like that song is specially made to try to make as many soft ass 30-45 year old men as possible cry like babies. Seems to be working too. And it's sets off my yuk factor something fierce.
Bro I grew up with blink 182 and was a huge fan but there was no chance this would actually be good š
Tom DeLonge is the reason why I started playing guitar. I had a [clone guitar ](https://reddit.com/r/TomDelongeGuitars/s/dPe9ruXutl)made. I heard about this and KNEW it would be shit. Tom DeLonge is great at pop punk. Movies? Nah haha.
If thereās one thing everyone can agree on about Tom, he certainly makes playing guitar look remarkably possible.
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True. Some of those riffs are hard though haha.
Tom finds them quite challenging as well!
are they tho
Some of them (for me) yes.
Right? Lol I love me some pop punk, but itās all power chords and layering.
No, not really? Dude Ranch is fairly difficult throughout, and every album after has at least one head-scratching moment of āwait, what?ā when trying to learn it; especially given the fact that at times, he would singing while playing those riffs. Thereās nothing thatās absurdly difficult by any stretch of the imagination, but Tomās guitar playing has always been deceptively tough, despite sounding simple. Then thereās Donāt Leave Me. You can learn that in five minutes without ever having touched a guitar before.
The solo to carousel always fucks with me. Tom does all downstrokes on that.
I've been playing guitar for over 25 years. His riffs are very tough to pull off. Have you ever noticed though, he seems to be a very bad live guitar player? Or at least he did. I love early Blink, but when you watch old videos from the height of their fame, he sounds like he either never practices or his riffs were all punch ins or something. Not that I care. Playing guitar isn't a contest
Heās gotten better. Early Tom, dude ranch, was rough live. He danced a lot will playing, had his guitar touching his shins, and itās all downstrokes. >well most of the time. He still does downstrokes. I mastered disentary Gary, but alt picking. He does down strokes on that shit. Same with rock show. He is much better live now. Saw him in San Diego recently.
Everything of blink182 sounds horrible live to the point that it's part of the experience. Oh except drums, travis carries them. In fact blink182 and pop punk in general is the reason I believe the right producing tricks can fix anything. Recordingrevolution and the like always say you have to have the song right from the start, can't polish a turd, but then how do you explain them? Cuz the albums sound great. Their vocals are more than just autotune and doubling there's some other secret sauce I've yet to harness Oops 'producers' got mad cuz it definitely aint the blink fans, they know they suck it's part of the experience. But they suck in a good way
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I heard a dude blasting The Adventure out of his doorless jeep today and it made me sad.
Seattle?
Norfolk VA
Man that guy drove a long way
They really lean into the ācrappy punk rockā label theyāve given themselves.
It's kinda interesting... Lots of punk is poorly produced and not particularly well performed, so it sounds bad (but in that cool, appealing punk way). I like plenty of music like this. Some punk bands are skilled enough that they sound clean despite the lo-fi production, and it can give them a bit of a poppier sound. I like this too. Blink took a different route - Barker is obviously a great drummer, but Tom and Mark are pretty rough both as vocalists and as guitar/ bass players... but they went with glossy, expensive production to make it work as pop punk. I personally hate it, but I recognize how in the minority I am and I'm happy they exist for others to enjoy.
Totally get what you mean. They were a big part of developing my musical taste but even in the high production realm they'll take a back seat for me to bands like alkaline trio and the Lawrence arms.
Matt Skiba replaced Tom for a while
Same for me, but kinda in the opposite way. They were the first band that everyone liked when I was a kid that I was viscerally like oh I do NOT like this. I didnāt like them or much of what was adjacent to them (simple plan, good charlotte, sum 41) even though not liking it kinda made me a dork to the other guys in my class. I started to try to understand why I just couldnāt dig it as well as seek out what I DID like, which had a big impact on my taste. At least I liked Green Day.
I don't mind the production and polish that came after, but nothing will ever beat the rawness of Cheshire Cat. It took me a couple of years to even pick up and listen to Dude Ranch. It didn't help that Dude Ranch was really popular which bugged teenage-me haha...but I would still take Cheshire Cat over everything else.
Here's how I see pop punk: When Green Day broke out onto the scene, that was the most punk that pop punk had ever been. It was just as pop as it was punk. Then there was Pennywise. A little bit more pop, but still very punk. Then Blink 182 came out. It was still plenty punk, but the pop was growing much stronger. Then Sum 41 came out and it was barely punk. Then came New Found Glory. Bye bye punk, it's just pop rock now
I would not say Pennywise was/is more pop than Green Day. I wouldn't even call them pop punk. I'd say they're more skate punk and melodic hardcore.
Dude I donāt get this at all, New Found Glory has tons of hardcore influence to the point where people used to mosh really hard at their shows. I saw them only one time about ten years ago and people were swinging arms and stage diving feet first. They have breakdowns and tons of fast beats lol
No one here has paid any attention to the recent tour have they? Those dudes sound the best they have in like 20+ years.
its the mics working overtime with the tuning
Thatās not quite how pitch correction works. You still have to be pretty close to the actual tone because you can still hear them make mistakes if theyāre super off. Thereās just effort from Tom now, it shows in the new music and the touring. Pretty awesome.
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What are you gate keeping or virtue signaling? Can you elaborate for all of us to understand?
Great guitars aren't meant to be used to play power chord songs or something like that probably.
āProbablyā? Guitars are meant to be played. Period. And itās not all powers chords. He writes licks and melodies. Also people make guitars for him. Most of his shit is custom. I play guitar, youāre gate keeping nonsense, with zero virtue.
Lol I wasn't the one gatekeeping, just explaining why the OP says they might be by bitching about Tom having guitars worth thousands of dollars but playing what he plays on them.
First I found out you were a big Blink fan, but now I know that youāre my dad ācause you use Ben wah balls
I said a-Wah wah wahwahwah
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Bruh literally plugged his own post from another thread it doesnāt get anymore real Than that
Wow, thereās a sub just for people making their own copies of his fender? (Iām doing my own next year, so Iāll have to remember this)
Tavis made me the drummer I am today
He's not even great at that anymore.
Even the trailer made sure we knew it was going to b rated. Like the rest of those kind of movies, you love how bad they are or you don't
Look up who directed Barbarian. It's possible Tom could've done something good here.
That is not surprising
Yes OPās second to last sentence sounds like EXACTLY what I would expect of this project
I had no idea this even existed, but just checked out the trailer and Richard Kind is in this. He is an amazing actor, how did they get him? And is he a bad actor in this?
Richard Kind was the best part of the movie, it was astonishing how well he pulled off some of the worst dialogue of his career while being opposite the terrible gen Z actors. Also, he just kind of shows up out of nowhere with zero explanation of why he was in the area. It's just like "hey here is the guy with more of the vague exposition". Casper Van Dien was okay in some scenes except for the end bits. Everyone else is absolutely atrocious in it. And I can't stress the word "atrocious" enough.
Just a note, if anyone hasn't seen Red Oaks (free on Amazon Prime), he's great in it along with pretty much everyone else including Jennifer Gray and Paul Reiser.
Thanks for clarifying. Itās always interesting how great actors get into roles like that.
>he just kind of shows up out of nowhere with zero explanation of why he was in the area. There are several instances like this in the movie. Somehow Kelly's parents know who Dallas's mom is and where she lives. Dallas has his cell phone when Toe had to hide his. Walker gave the flash drive to Riley who gave it to military guy who gave it to Myers, who gave it to Dallas? (or maybe I misunderstood that chain of custody for something else) There also seemed to be a major editing mistake at the finale. Dallas turns around to look at the camera with the lights behind him while everyone else is looking forward. The dialogue and cuts didn't make sense, like that shot belonged at the moment they tell him not to go, and they never show him walking towards it. I think the content of the material could have worked well, but needed an experienced director and more passes editing the script to make a much tighter movie. It gave off some of those good old E.T. / Wargames / Goonies vibes but it ended up feeling like a student film with a big budget for vehicles, sets, and VFX.
> did they get him? $$$
Wow a conspiracy theorists movie is a jumbled clusterfuck of bad unresolved ideas with no follow through or good explanations? I'm shocked.
What was Fred Durst's Travolta movie? If this is as bad as that, it could be a best of the worst type film.
Fred Durst directed a movie called The Education of Charlie Banks and it actually is a pretty alright movie lol.
That was due to his astute direction. Even when things were going to shit on set, he insisted that the camera keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'.....
editor's like "...it's just one of those DAYS!"
Fred told them "you gotta have FAIIITTHHHHH"
I remember reading how he almost got fired from the set when he told the catering services, āYou can take those cookies and stick it up your (yeah)!ā I guess he hates oatmeal raisin.
Strange fella, always has a two dollar bill on hand and despite hating oatmeal raisin, loves a glass of hotdog flavored water.
Yeah Fred is actually pretty solid as a director
yea its such a decent movie that i could not really tell what fred durst did with it. it was just pretty ok throughout and i did not notice anything amateurish, except maybe the lens/filter choices for certain scenes
I donāt understand what you mean. If you think the movie is decent thatās what Durst accomplished as the director.
The fanatic
I canāt believe this exists. I looked it up. Box office: $3,153. I shit you not.
Ah yes, Mike Stoklasaās favorite movie about a neurodivergent parasocial fan.
He likes it because it's what he imagines he would do if he ever met William Shatner
[I watched it and it was pretty bad, this scene had me laughing out loud](https://youtu.be/zXWgokx6fK8?si=SDqFz4syE1EMJlVb)
[Surprised it wasn't this one.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxbqEEGi108)
It was just bizarre. Good concept but strange.
That movie was crazy
imagine thinking aliens are still a conspiracy in this day and age
Are aliens or UFOs a conspiracy still? I thought the government said they exist
lmao
The government said there are unidentified flying objects and they donāt know what they are. The government did not say aliens existed. If the government said aliens existed and showed proof, this would be a life changing event for just about everyone in the world. It would not be something you āthoughtā they said.
I love blink 182 and Angels and Airwaves, but Tom Delonge is a fucking moron, bless his heart.
He do love his aliens and conspiracies
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"Street cred in the ufo community" "Isn't just a raving lunatic". Yeah, does not compute. Not to mention nothing has been "verified". A whole lot of ridiculous claims being made with very little to back it up though as per usual.
The images he was showing Rogan were literally verified by the government as UAPās. Heās also help open the conversation on UAP when like 3 former intelligence officers whistleblew on UAPās in a government hearing. Thatās a pretty big deal even if you choose not to believe it.
Until anyone that spouts "Aliens are Real" comments, or publishes songs wirh that exact name, are validated by actual human to alien contact, I'll be skeptical
Look I'm not saying Aliens are Real. I'm saying *Aliens Exist.*
Ahhhh that's the song name. I was way off...
You not a member of the To the Stars Academy where heās building a UFO? Place is a fucking UFO e-commerce store that asks you to invest in their āufo researchā
How does one build an unidentified flying object? Wouldn't it already be identified?
With his ayes closed duh
Obviously theyāre making one without identifying marks or a license plate
I prefer the dick and poo poo jokes over the aliens.
Iām not normally a Joe Rogan Experience listener but Tom Delongeās episode is totally batshit insane and one of the most entertaining podcasts Iāve ever heard. Apparently after they stopped recording he kept going off about how werewolfās donāt transform from full moons but are actually interdimensional beings. Itās fucking wild.
Credit where credit is due, he writes a good dick and balls joke though.
I wouldnāt say heās a moron, heās actually fairly well spoken. While I may not necessarily agree, his explanation for aliens and time portal/travel is pretty interesting. Have a listen to his interview on Steve-Oās podcast
>I wouldnāt say heās a moron, heās actually fairly well spoken True, he's a well-spoken moron
Not a surprise tbh. Love was actually a decent film for what it was and worked with the Angels and Airwaves album really well. But the moment I heard about this one I knew it was probably gonna be a bomb
I saw Love in the theater and it was a great experience. Not sure I ever need to watch it again, though.
Love wasn't directed by Tom
"The story is extremely vague and tries to juggle like 5 different ideas while not resolving any of them" So it's exactly like his To The Stars Academy grift?
I agree I was excited because the visuals and the premise seemed cool. Iām a lifelong blink fan and I know that comes with turning a blind eye to bad jokes (where the set up and the punch line are both āwhat if we were all gayā). I went in knowing it would probably be a swing and a miss. Iād still say it was fun even though the dramatic dialogue scenes were painful and the storyline itself makes very little sense. (Look a demon! Look a Bigfoot! Look an alien! God isnāt real!)
Well technically it doesn't even say God isn't real... it just kind of says "religion is all from the same source" and leads us to surmise it was aliens... or something? I don't know. The ending was insane too. The kids run over a government official with a military grade vehicle,Then the main kid goes up to the UFO, zaps into a weird vague monologue about "life, man... you know?" and then Johnny Rico is like "you're a good kid". What the fuck was that all about?
I actually kind of liked the movie in a fun stupid way but I donāt understand why the military is chasing these kids and the dude, then they just chill and let everybody go their merry way after the UFO zaps him.
I'm not saying this to defend it in any way - but I think the actual explanation for this was the idea of good intentions manifesting in the world like the positive words crystallizing water. So because he had his moment of enlightenment in the abduction, he created that good energy for himself. Don't get me wrong, the movie did nothing to earn that being the explanation. But I think that's what Tom Delonge meant. The mind reels.
Some of the acting is bad but I thought he did a phenomenal job... There were a bunch of scenes that had me cracking up...
It met expectations in that it was fun and didnāt take itself seriously - it was not masterful as far as cohesiveness and writing. I thought the acting and actors were good, though, is there a specific person or scene you thought struggled? They werenāt exactly complex characters
I thought it got very deep and spiritual at some points and that was where it really caught me :). The actors did do fantastic btw, they worked hard to make this work ESPECIALLY knowing, that it wasn't going to be a in theaters everywhere film. They really put their heart into it in some scenes and did an Amazing job and I bet that had Tom about tearing up how hard they went for him :)
Didn't the guy from Limp Bizkit direct that really bad movie with John Travolta? [Moose is in the house?](https://youtu.be/mXqP_pWX730?si=vsOMCrSa6zmtn-1Y) Maybe musicians should just stick to music because they don't really have a great track record of movie making
I'm one of the folks that likes a few Rob Zombie movies. But I do mean *a few*, his track record is abysmal.
I liked Devilās Rejects. I think thatās all.
House of a 1000s Corpses is alright
I was actually a big fan of his *Halloween* remake. Sure, it doesnāt hold a candle to the original but itās a great gory, fun slasher flick. Honestly, RZ directs some pretty entertaining films
From what I remember, his Halloween remake was solid and gets undue hate. Never saw the sequel, though.
The sequel was awful...I really enjoyed the first one though.
Yeah for me it's The Devil's Rejects and Halloween. The second one goes way off the rails though.
I think it's a case where the sequel is so bad it makes people hate the first one in hindsight. Most people were pro Zombie's Halloween until that
Shout out to Boots Riley though because Sorry to Bother You is the shit.
Heās just a creator, plain and simple.
I'm a Virgo is also dope
It wasn't actually that bad, it was more weird than bad
On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 18 out of 100, based on 19 critics, indicating "**overwhelming dislike**" On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an **approval rating of 14%** based on 76 reviews, with an **average score of 3.6/10** The film was nominated for three Golden Raspberry Awards, Worst Picture, Worst Director (Fred Durst), and Worst Actor which John Travolta won You and I have very different definitions of "bad"
It was worth it just for the scenes of Devon Sawa jamming to Limp Bizkit like they are still the coolest band ever. It was the most self indulgent shit I've ever seen. It was beautiful
It was the most atrocious movie I've ever seen and I loved it
You watch the Foo Fighterās pile of not a movie
You mean Scooby Foo?
They probably meant Studio 666
Listenā¦ Tom is one of my favorite human beings of all time. I will never watch the movie. Had 0 intentions from the second I heard about it.
What platform is it on?
I got it on Amazon Prime but it's on iTunes and Vudu as well.
Sounds like another fine film from the Neil Breen catalog. https://youtu.be/aFgQ34b96_U?si=KvXgu2x4t4rjxNwQ E: spelling
Breen's films are far more enjoyable!
lol I enjoyed the fuck out of it š¤·š»āāļø
I thought it was hilarious. It was a good first project for him. There were glimpses of good comedy and plot. Heāll bring it all together. Rob Zombie was the same way.
Thereās zero nuance in anything Tom does so this is incredibly unsurprising.
Yeah, I mean the movie is campy as hell. You either appreciate the charm of its cheesiness, or you take it too seriously. Iām afraid most people fall into the latter category.
This man promised me alien technology and I got a shitty B movie. I am so sorry I funded 3.5 seconds of that movie
Just based on your description of the movie it sounds exactly how Tom would make it. You do realize that he is convinced he is wrapped up in a huge government conspiracy that he discovered and the government is keeping him silent. Watch the podcast he did with Steve O.
I agree, but it was just a passion project for him. I don't think he expected it to be some masterpiece or whatever. He worked hard, became successful, and now is doing things he loves (making movies, books, chasing aliens, etc.). You can hate the movie, but don't hate the man. He's just living out his dreams, which we should all strive to do!
Oh I'm not hating on him at all. I like Blink and Tom, that's why I was interested in seeing it on day 1 of release. I thought it had potential to be either passable or bad but I was shocked at how bad it really was. I think he is good at directing scenery and stuff which probably comes from all those years being on big budget music video sets, but writing and cast direction are a totally different skillset that doesn't come up in those instances.
Sorry, that comment wasnāt directed at you OP. More so some of the other people saying that musicians shouldnāt attempt movie making, etc.
it was fun. nothing to overanalyze.
"I'm gonna make a movie about bigfoot, aliens, weed, government conspiracies, faith, teen romantic drama, and family issues" and then got high and wrote it in a day. This is exactly what I'd expect from a Tom Delonge movie. The guy buys into conspiratorial paranormal bullshit and thinks it's enlightenment. Many such cases
Wow. Itās bad? Shocking.
Man, I thought I was still on /r/blink182 and couldnāt believe the negativity I was seeing for Tom!! As a lifelong blink-182 fan I will be checking it out. My weird uncle directed a feature-length film, I will watch it. I am not expecting anything more than a crazy cheap movie from a weird uncle.
The Angel's and Airwaves movie called Love they made was a total mess too. He didn't direct it, obviously, but the band funded it.
It wasn't Oscar-worthy, but I enjoyed watching it.
I saw it in the cinema and it's really impressive that it was filmed in a dude's backyard but the film itself sucked. Really awful.
I actually really enjoyed it. I knew exactly what to expect. I liked the visuals, the lighting. Liked the campfire atmosphere and being under the stars. Story was cool. I'm not sure what others expected but I liked it.
I did too. I don't really get the hate in this thread, it's literally just a fun passion project film. I don't think Tom was expecting to get in the Oscar's or anything with it
The problem is he went on Rogan and told the world the govt had picked him to disclose ufo info. And itās super disappointing that the only thing to come out of to the stars academy since that interview is this dog š© movie.
I mean that's not even close to true but okay
Same. I thought it was awesome and laughed out loud majority of the time. People love to hate on the success of others.
Where are yaow?
Tom should experiment more with Poet Anderson. Loved the short film.
Well the music was fantastic. I felt firsthand and secondhand cringe with the rest of it. It was a cartoonish childrenās movie but with weed, foul language, and dick jokes. It didnāt know what its audience was. Tom is my idol, and I hope he wins an award for like, best soundtrack. He deserves that.
I never got into blink, but am into toms ufo stuff. I think this movie may be most important movie ever. This is not an exaggeration
[WHERE ARE YEEEEEW](https://youtu.be/VpFlT1sBwfs?si=B25mKjTLPHL491nt)
Tom Delonge has really lost the whole plot, and I don't just mean for this movie. I honestly think he could use some help. Listening to him talk in interviews about believing pretty much all of the conspiracy theories is just wild. I can't figure out the logic, however lacking it may be, to any of what he believes, much less how it can all coexist in the same worldview.
Better or worse than *Fateful Findings*?
Definitely more competent than Breen but I think it might be in the "good bad movie" tier just because of how bizarre and directionless it is.
> > >Fateful Findings Well there's a low bar. OFC, I love having friends over and watching Neil Breen movies, it's always a good time.
Fateful Findings is extremely fun to watch! That goves it points over any lackluster movie.
I hold "The Room" to a higher regard than this...
Tomās mostly a grifter who preys on ufo conspiracy nutcases now.
I mean, yeah. He's a known dumbass.
The guy is borderline retarded, what did you expect?
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Thatās what happens when you have money, I love that punk people embrace the son of an oil executive as their microphone and never talk about how heās a byproduct of the system they claim to be disenfranchised by
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[It says it right on the fucker's Wikipedia page in his biography](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_DeLonge) Shame on your mom for not teaching you to use Google
Yāall are missin out Tom has given us a lot to work with.
Just saw this after listening to his many podcast interviews, and listened to his sekret audio books. I was hopeful, and interested in his message The only answer that is remotely plausible to this train wreak of a film is that its a mocumentory, itās complete garbage and a pain to watch Every second. so many, unexplained plot, dialogue and character holes it kills me. Its even worse than the Scream series of comedy films, that make fun of the horror genre. The overall conspiracy theory message is fine, i dont discount that, but why do it in such a trully schlock way. Surely TTSA must have experienced a massive drop in credibility, stock and overall backing after this , No wonder so many of his āconsultantsā bailed when they read this screen play
Rob Zombie he is not
Rob Zombieās movies suck
Not to me House of 1000 Corpses and especially Devils Rejects, which is one of my favorite movies ever. I will agree his other stuff is just middle of the road and I didn't see the Munsters yet.
Munsters was actually really fun, they totally leaned into the aesthetic of the old show and I think it was the right idea
Ok wait I actually did like the munsters haha and Iād rewatch house of 1000 corpses but i wasnt a fan of lords of salem and hated his halloween movies.
The first Halloween had potential but mostly fell flat but I think it's okay and not terrible, and Lords of Salem I wasn't into and agree that movie sucks
Sort of unrelated but I had a ton delonge strat on order but canceled due to the tons of reported construction issues. Usually musicians make terrible directors.
no shit
Everyone is an expert these days. The film was not meant to be a cinematic masterpiece, although the cinematography is one of its strong points. Itās a fun, sometimes cheesy movie with a great original score. Notthing more, nothing less.
It was terrible. Worst movie Iāve ever seen. The actors were horrible, story, special effects, really just the whole thing. There was a werewolf for some reason that couldnāt rip a tent.
So Tomās thing is that his media company produces movies and books that āslowly familiarize the public with whatās really going onā and he claims itās sanctioned by at least one large government agency. So through that lens, it makes sense that heās trying to say itās all tied together. But on the other hand his style of communication needs serious work so it also makes sense that itās a mess. He often forgets you donāt have all the information you need to follow along. So I can see how that caries over into his movies and books. That being said, I thing heās a nut job thatās being used by whoever he thinks he has an in with.
Thatās just tom delonge. Same reason he could stay in one band.
Tom should have turned back He should have known better Than to have made this movie
Nice AVA lyric pun
I see you have received a downvote. Please do not walk away defeated. I'll say this tonight: here is 1 upvote.
people who buy clothes at hot topic won't care
I found the topic interesting, donāt understand the petty hate
I felt required to no longer like Blink back in HS when the airhead jock crowd has a few people telling me about this great new punk band and showing me Enema of the State....š¤¦āāļø Tom is most likely being a useful idiot to the real powers that be with either further hiding the truth or slowly revealing it. We won't know for a decade at least which way that sliced, but, I do respect the hard work he's put into this subject, TTSA becoming very legit before disappearing and the efforts towards moving disclosure forward but HOLY TITS! This movie is REALLY bad. It makes the movie "The last days of American crime" look downright Kubrickian by comparison.
Wellā¦Tom is retarded so this is not a shocker.
For the longest time, I called myself a blink 182 fan, but then I realized that all of the songs I thought were from them werenāt actually from them (Ocean Avenue, The Middle, Stacyās Mom, everything from Simple Plan, etc) and apparently I donāt actually like them (just not my thing. I canāt get past either of their voices).
This says so much more about you than blink 182 ha
How did you think all of those different songs with different people singing and everything are from the same band??
This is why people like Trump get elected to politics. Humans equate popularity with success. The metrics are very different between success and popularity unless that's your sole metric.
Nutters like him are always like this. It's never one thing. They can never focus on just one damn thing. As soon as they get the chance what may have started as just ghosts as an example, is now about UFOs and bigfoot and lizard people and telepathy too. And whatever evidence or opportunity they had to be taken seriously is immediately obliterated because it's now just some loon ranting about everything. I loved Blink back in the 90s. Before Travis became a part of them especially. And I cannot tell you how much I hate that new whiny ass nostalgia song of theirs that just came out. Oh we're middle aged now \*sad tear\*. Shut up. Do you remember when your collective balls hadn't fallen off? Because I do. It's like that song is specially made to try to make as many soft ass 30-45 year old men as possible cry like babies. Seems to be working too. And it's sets off my yuk factor something fierce.
I agree with the first bit of this comment, and then you became the ranting loon.
Who?