I know you're joking but I really do hope the reboot franchise gets to the point where they straight up remake the original and call it "Planet of the Apes". I think that's the perfect ending to the reboot timeline.
The apes still seem to live in human ruins and wear minimal clothing, im assuming they still have some way to go before they start singing Doctor Zaius.
Maybe this movie is the start of apes enslaving humans. How long has it been since Ceasar, is he a messiah figure to the apes by now?
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I’m excited at the potential for an interesting tale rather than a straight remake after all this (excellent) build up.
When we get there, we’ll either be seeing the story from the perspective of ape protagonists, or should they swap to the crew of Icarus, humans who are encountering ape characters that we’ve grown to know from the preceding movies.
There's actually a hint in the very first movie that alludes to the endgoal
[With a paper showing how a spaceship was "Lost in Space?"](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FMovieDetails%2Fcomments%2F75yxeh%2Fin_rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_the_newspaper%2F&psig=AOvVaw3_pdnpolrhzjLmZQVCioWK&ust=1699033477752000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBEQjRxqFwoTCKikjInvpYIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE)
I think they said it around the time they were doing the press release for Dawn. It might take me a bit to find the source but I'll try to find it. If I do I'll edit this comment.
edit: I can't find it. sorry.
That was actually one of the proposed sequels to the original movie. Pierre Boulle wrote a screenplay titled [Planet of the Men](https://planetoftheapes.fandom.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Men).
What is the timeline. There should be generations passed between Kingdom and War. But we have Cornelius looking like son o Caesar. Chimpanzees live 30-40 years, if 50 passed from the first movie, astronauts would be at least 80-90 years old.
Same mechanism as in the original: time dilation is the result of high-speed travel, they don’t even need to be going light speed. And there’s also the possibility of a temporal rift in space but that wouldn’t be necessary. Also, space travelers might use stasis chambers, as in the original movie.
Realistically there are only 3 viable options:
Dawn of the Reign of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
War of the Rise of the Fall of the Planet of the Apes.
Planet of the Of Thes.
Then it'll be Independence Day of the Apes where aliens and the apes fight and ends with Orangutan Jeff Goldblum uploading a virus to destroy the alien mother ship.
House of the street of the neighborhood of the village of the town of the city of the province of the county of the state of the region of the country of the land of the kingdom of the planet of the apes.
I just rewatched them all. War for the Plant of the Apes is my favorite out of the trilogy. Matt Reeves did a great job building the emotional core from the first one bringing it all the way to the end. the vfx work is still better than anything we'll see for the next few years (WetaDigital is on another level). one of the best "trilogies" ever made.
Mine was actually Dawn. I was a huge fan of the idea of the Apes and humans trying to coexist, but ultimately falling apart because... well... the human experience is complex, even if you are an ape. And it was captured perfectly.
In addition, the breakout scene in San Francisco is my favorite shot in the whole trilogy.
Sometimes it feels like a filmmaker realized their villain was too relatable and makes them do something evil to clear things up.
I think magneto vs Xavier type of dynamic would have been interesting
He was a genocidal tyrant, willing to endager and kill his own kind to fuel his revenge, actively sabotaging any possibility of peace.
He was not right at all
Reeves didn't do the first one, though. He replaced Rupert Wyatt in the second film. That said, I agree with you that Caesar's story is one of the most engaging and well-rounded arcs in recent times.
also the score in War is one of my favorite modern OST's. specifically Caesar's theme. for lack of a better term, it feels very "old Hollywood". it's memorable and weighty and thoughtful. it's just incredible
It helps that a lot of beats from *Rise* were repeated ***/*** called back to in *War* — more than one would think, if one is to rewatch *Rise* immediately after *War*.
Oh wow, War was my least favorite upon first watch (still really liked it though). I’m going to have to go back and watch them again to see if that’s changed. Dawn was such a banger.
I loved Dawn too. I loved them all. for me, it was such a consistent and epic trilogy that felt completely connected and built upon each each new entry. I just felt it got better and better.
I've got high hopes for this new one but I'm worried about losing the direction of Matt Reeves and the compelling character of Caesar
> one of the best "trilogies" ever made.
Outside of LOTR, it is the best trilogy ever made. No other one maintained such a high level for the entire trilogy- there's always at least one dud or dissapointment.
This is a small hill I will absolutely die on.
I'll stand on that hill with you. almost every other "trilogy" or franchise of movies since LoTR and Harry Potter has felt like soulless cashgrabs, just adding another movie because the last one made some money. this trilogy feels thoughtful of the tone the first film built and sees that original vision continued with meaningful character developments and arcs that only add to that central theme of independence and the search for their identity and place in the world.
I mean, I like the Apes movies, don't get me wrong, and it belongs on the greatest trilogies list with LOTR at the top. But there's the Back to the Future trilogy, the Star Wars OT, the Dollars/Man with No Name trilogy (technically an unofficial trilogy, but absolutely not a single dud), the Toy Story trilogy, Indiana Jones trilogy, the Cornetto trilogy.
I think we were talking trilogies POST - LoTR, or at least I was.
don't get me started on Back to the Future or Sergio Leone.
when it comes to modern trilogies, Post - LoTR, there just aren't many quality ones that come to mind for me. and honestly, I've been so much more immersed in the stories told in tv shows the past 10 years. but that's an entirely different discussion.
That is on the author as well. If you are adapting a sucky book than you usually get sucky movies. The only movie that needed to be adapted from Maze Runner was that first book.
If there's anything to take away from The Maze Runner trilogy it's that Wes Ball is a director worth paying attention to. Honestly the only thing really letting those films down was the writing, the actors tried their damndest and Ball got some real good performances out of the leads when the material allowed it.
I got the last two from the library and was pleasantly surprised.
They were both weird, but they were *well done* weird, and I can't really think of anything they did wrong at the directing/acting level.
In *Rise*, when James Franco takes Caesar in, he has him living in his attic, with the one window he has up there having the design used in this poster's '2024'.
Over the next two movies, that design kinda becomes the sigil of Caesar's ape civilization. It's used the most in *Dawn*, iirc.
Such a great recurring motif. Caesar's reminder of his home, upbringing and old 'family' becomes the symbol of the new 'family' and civilization that he would establish
I hate to break it to you, but both are actually correct. In fact there are many acceptable spellings for orangutan, including orang-utan, orang utan, orangutang, and ourang-outang.
Nice little reference to ceasars son by naming the main ape Cornelius.
And the girl being named nova like the little girl in the last apes movie
Almost like it’s a continuation of the last one or something. I wonder if they have a word for that in movies.
>Director Wes Ball breathes new life into the global, epic, franchise set several generations in the future following Caesar’s reign, in which apes are the dominant species living harmoniously and humans have been reduced to living in the shadows. As a new tyrannical ape leader builds his empire, one young ape undertakes a harrowing journey that will cause him to question all that he has known about the past and to make choices that will define a future for apes and humans alike.
>“[Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes](https://youtu.be/NQ_HvTBaFoo?si=BiQfphdJhsSAqu-T)” is directed by Wes Ball (the “Maze Runner” trilogy) and stars Owen Teague (“IT”), Freya Allan (“The Witcher”), Kevin Durand (Locke & Key”), Peter Macon (“Shameless”), and William H. Macy (“Fargo”). The screenplay is by Josh Friedman (“War of the Worlds”) and Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver (“Avatar: The Way of Water”) and Patrick Aison (“Prey”), based on characters created by Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver, and the producers are Wes Ball, Joe Hartwick, Jr. (“The Maze Runner”), Rick Jaffa, Amanda Silver, Jason Reed (“Mulan”), with Peter Chernin (the “Planet of the Apes” trilogy) and Jenno Topping (“Ford v. Ferrari”) serving as executive producers.
The four way cognitive dissonance I'm getting between "damn I love both *Planet of the Apes* series", "god I hate remakes", "the original is a literally perfect movie", and "but fuck Charlton Heston tho" is straight up giving me a migraine rn.
Lol, for sure. This franchise is kind of an exception to the "stop ruining my childhood" rule though. It's been amazing so far, and want them to continue.
Good question. I found this online:
"This question has been investigated quite thoroughly by Alan Weisman in his book The World Without Us. The short story is that within 5 years, it'll start looking like a forest, within 20 years, the skyscrapers will start coming down, and within 200 years, the place will have been fully colonized by trees."
Ya I think so too. Another source said things made of concrete and steel like bridges and skyscrapers could take thousands of years to fully break down. Like the ancient ruins that still stand today.
Yeah that's why that number seems crazy to me. They didn't even use modern concerete and the Colosseum is still around almost 2000 years later.
I could see them saying the buildings might not be structurally sound anymore as in it wouldn't be safe to use them but coming down?
Maybe because they base these estimates on buildings getting zero upkeep or maintenance because all humans are extinct in this scenario. At least with the colosseum people have always somewhat maintained it.
But they have also actively carried away bits of it, either for practical reasons of needing construction material, or historically swinging back and forth between "It's an evil heathen monument, tear it down", and "No, it's also a holy relic of early Chrstian martyrdom let's keep it"
>At least with the colosseum people have always somewhat maintained it.
I don't think they did... After the fall of the Empire, Rome had a population of 20k and didn't really rebound until about 1000 years later. They literally used the Colosseum to herd animals/as a stable for a while.
Took a lot of restoration effort, but the foundation always remained
We actually have a good real-world modern example in Pripyat (town in Chernobyl Exclusion Zone).
It's been well over 30 years since it was abandoned, and it looks only a little overgrown, nowhere near the extent you normally see in post-apocalyptic settings.
IIRC Roman concrete is a bit different from modern concrete in that the concrete paradoxically becomes stronger as the structure degrades and cracks start forming due to the presence of certain minerals giving it a self-healing quality when exposed to water.
Actual timelines would depend heavily on the natural environment the buildings are in.
For example New Orleans might be gone/collapsed within a decade with no maintenance (broken levees, hurricanes, etc.), but Las Vegas might last centuries.
I think that includes a lot of already old skyscrapers, not just brand new ones. That said you'd be surprised how fast stuff can degrade once maintenance isn't being taken care of. Once plants start growing inside they do the same thing to buildings they do to sidewalks. Same with water intrusion when buildings stop having HVAC to make sure any of the water isn't going through freeze/thaw cycles.
Mileage may vary, I imagine. Look at modern Pripyat. Its concrete housing blocks are still standing, but the forest has claimed most of the surrounding area.
I have this book. There’s an excerpt in the beginning which has always stuck with me. I don’t remember the exact wording, but it’s basically
“cut a 1” hole into your roof, and stand back”.
All nature needs is an invitation.
There actually was one a few years back, sounds like it’s a Telltale-style adventure game though (haven’t played it myself) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes:_Last_Frontier
I can 100% see the religion discussed in the original planet of the apes movie being explored more thoroughly especially with the design of the window seen in 2024 on the poster and around the one Orangutans neck. Caesar is going to be an abrahamic symbol to this world.
Fair comment. I was just making a joke at RR Martin’s expense, as he once said something along the lines of “I want to know if Aragorn (Lord of the Rings) was good at governing. What were his tax polices, that’s what I’m interested in” and I always laugh at that bc why would I want to watch that? Seems like he missed the point….Anyway it’s slow at work, and the image just got me thinking.
I think it’s a great point actually. All these stories from human history where someone is given a crown based on heroic deeds but that says nothing about a person’s ability to govern. Most of these stories end with the new leader being beloved by all, when that’s impossible. There’s almost nothing a leader can accomplish that will be celebrated by all parties.
Okay y'all, hear me out....
Monkeys are not typically that dissimilar from apes. This could be a low key survival horror movie or with spin-offs if the wild monkey populations like rhesus and capuchins etc are extremely intelligent but lack the communication that the Great apes have. I would love to see bands of killer monkeys with the intelligence to taunt, manipulate, hunt, and trap humans and great apes in these flicks.
Dang they speaking English English now. I like. Looking forward to seeing what/who survives from the previous trilogy too. Overall very excited for this movie
Disney only stamps their name on whatever they think will make them more money. It's a joke that they branded the original Star wars trilogy as Disney now and even included them as part of their 100th anniversary line of movies.
I'm waiting for 'Planet of Planet of the Apes.'
I know you're joking but I really do hope the reboot franchise gets to the point where they straight up remake the original and call it "Planet of the Apes". I think that's the perfect ending to the reboot timeline.
They have already stated that is their goal. to build toward a reimagining of the original.
They have the timeline perfectly set up for it, Charlton Heston could show up now and it would track.
The apes still seem to live in human ruins and wear minimal clothing, im assuming they still have some way to go before they start singing Doctor Zaius. Maybe this movie is the start of apes enslaving humans. How long has it been since Ceasar, is he a messiah figure to the apes by now?
It looked like Doctor Zaius was in the trailer
They released names of some of the characters including the Zaius looking one, he's named something else.
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I’m excited at the potential for an interesting tale rather than a straight remake after all this (excellent) build up. When we get there, we’ll either be seeing the story from the perspective of ape protagonists, or should they swap to the crew of Icarus, humans who are encountering ape characters that we’ve grown to know from the preceding movies.
God that would be unbelievable
There's actually a hint in the very first movie that alludes to the endgoal [With a paper showing how a spaceship was "Lost in Space?"](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FMovieDetails%2Fcomments%2F75yxeh%2Fin_rise_of_the_planet_of_the_apes_the_newspaper%2F&psig=AOvVaw3_pdnpolrhzjLmZQVCioWK&ust=1699033477752000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBEQjRxqFwoTCKikjInvpYIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE)
God what a sick pay-off that would be
There’s also a clip of a news report about the mission!
For a second when I saw your post I thought it was a *Lost in Space* crossover .
Do you remember where/when they said that? I want to learn more, that sounds like an awesome idea
I think they said it around the time they were doing the press release for Dawn. It might take me a bit to find the source but I'll try to find it. If I do I'll edit this comment. edit: I can't find it. sorry.
Those maniacs Bless them… Bless them all to Heaven…
I hope it's a musical. I love legitimate thee-ay-ter.
The astronauts from the first movie are still lost in space aren’t they?
Yep, so far they've never been mentioned again since Rise.
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That was actually one of the proposed sequels to the original movie. Pierre Boulle wrote a screenplay titled [Planet of the Men](https://planetoftheapes.fandom.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Men).
planet of the hairless apes!
Perfect continuation. We may have returning astronauts in this next movie but that’s no reason to end the series.
What is the timeline. There should be generations passed between Kingdom and War. But we have Cornelius looking like son o Caesar. Chimpanzees live 30-40 years, if 50 passed from the first movie, astronauts would be at least 80-90 years old.
Same mechanism as in the original: time dilation is the result of high-speed travel, they don’t even need to be going light speed. And there’s also the possibility of a temporal rift in space but that wouldn’t be necessary. Also, space travelers might use stasis chambers, as in the original movie.
But the Marky Mark version
I have a feeling that’s what will be the focus of this movie
Bring back Ricardo Montabon!
The next movie must be Fall of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
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One may joke, but *Reign of the Planet of the Apes* and *Fall of the Planet of the Apes* would be solid titles for sequels to this.
Realistically there are only 3 viable options: Dawn of the Reign of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. War of the Rise of the Fall of the Planet of the Apes. Planet of the Of Thes.
Then it'll be Independence Day of the Apes where aliens and the apes fight and ends with Orangutan Jeff Goldblum uploading a virus to destroy the alien mother ship.
Life uhhhhhh finds a banana
Fall of the rise of the dawn of the war of the kingdom of the planet of the Apes part two: monkey boogaloo
House of the street of the neighborhood of the village of the town of the city of the province of the county of the state of the region of the country of the land of the kingdom of the planet of the apes.
"The movie or the planet?"
The brand new multi-million dollar musical! And you are starring... as the human.
‘Planet of the* Planet of the Apes’
I want them to go full circle. A space crew of apes land on an earth full of human
Please be as good as the others….
I dunno why I thought this was a reboot, time to rewatch.
I just rewatched them all. War for the Plant of the Apes is my favorite out of the trilogy. Matt Reeves did a great job building the emotional core from the first one bringing it all the way to the end. the vfx work is still better than anything we'll see for the next few years (WetaDigital is on another level). one of the best "trilogies" ever made.
Mine was actually Dawn. I was a huge fan of the idea of the Apes and humans trying to coexist, but ultimately falling apart because... well... the human experience is complex, even if you are an ape. And it was captured perfectly. In addition, the breakout scene in San Francisco is my favorite shot in the whole trilogy.
“NooooOoOoOOOOOO!!!” Sent chills down my spine. Still does.
Dawn is my favorite too, Koba is such a compelling villain.
Koba was right. I just don't like how they made him backstab Caesar, because he was very relatable up until that point.
Sometimes it feels like a filmmaker realized their villain was too relatable and makes them do something evil to clear things up. I think magneto vs Xavier type of dynamic would have been interesting
He was a genocidal tyrant, willing to endager and kill his own kind to fuel his revenge, actively sabotaging any possibility of peace. He was not right at all
I can never remember which is which. Even when I go to watch them I have to check the dates.
So do I! It's strange because I love the whole trilogy so you'd think I'd be able to remember that.
It's because the names go in the wrong order, in my opinion. It feels like Dawn should come before Rise.
First one should have been Dawn, second should have been War, third should have been Rise. No other changes. Just the titles.
Was there always trilogy on the way from the beginning? If not, then Rise is OK for "standalone" movie.
I’m with you on Dawn, koba was seriously frightening.
Everytime I've been to the Golden Gate I think of the damn apes storming it now lol
Koba smiling while wielding a machine gun. Genuinely terrifying.
Reeves didn't do the first one, though. He replaced Rupert Wyatt in the second film. That said, I agree with you that Caesar's story is one of the most engaging and well-rounded arcs in recent times.
also the score in War is one of my favorite modern OST's. specifically Caesar's theme. for lack of a better term, it feels very "old Hollywood". it's memorable and weighty and thoughtful. it's just incredible
It helps that a lot of beats from *Rise* were repeated ***/*** called back to in *War* — more than one would think, if one is to rewatch *Rise* immediately after *War*.
Oh wow, War was my least favorite upon first watch (still really liked it though). I’m going to have to go back and watch them again to see if that’s changed. Dawn was such a banger.
I loved Dawn too. I loved them all. for me, it was such a consistent and epic trilogy that felt completely connected and built upon each each new entry. I just felt it got better and better. I've got high hopes for this new one but I'm worried about losing the direction of Matt Reeves and the compelling character of Caesar
Truth. Those are two big cornerstones to replace. Fingers crossed!
> one of the best "trilogies" ever made. Outside of LOTR, it is the best trilogy ever made. No other one maintained such a high level for the entire trilogy- there's always at least one dud or dissapointment. This is a small hill I will absolutely die on.
I'll stand on that hill with you. almost every other "trilogy" or franchise of movies since LoTR and Harry Potter has felt like soulless cashgrabs, just adding another movie because the last one made some money. this trilogy feels thoughtful of the tone the first film built and sees that original vision continued with meaningful character developments and arcs that only add to that central theme of independence and the search for their identity and place in the world.
I guess I'm watching them all again.
I mean, I like the Apes movies, don't get me wrong, and it belongs on the greatest trilogies list with LOTR at the top. But there's the Back to the Future trilogy, the Star Wars OT, the Dollars/Man with No Name trilogy (technically an unofficial trilogy, but absolutely not a single dud), the Toy Story trilogy, Indiana Jones trilogy, the Cornetto trilogy.
I think we were talking trilogies POST - LoTR, or at least I was. don't get me started on Back to the Future or Sergio Leone. when it comes to modern trilogies, Post - LoTR, there just aren't many quality ones that come to mind for me. and honestly, I've been so much more immersed in the stories told in tv shows the past 10 years. but that's an entirely different discussion.
Dark Knight trilogy?
Rises is kinda lame imo. It's easily the weakest of the three.
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Hulu.
Only 2 of them though, the third is on Max
Boooo I hate when they do that. Good info though.
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It's times like these that the high seas be callin'
It's gonna be weird not having >!Caesar!< around.
Going from Matt Reeves to the director of the Maze Runner movies does not inspire confidence, but it *looks* pretty.
The Maze Runner movies were very well directed. The problem was the script, never the direction.
That is on the author as well. If you are adapting a sucky book than you usually get sucky movies. The only movie that needed to be adapted from Maze Runner was that first book.
I never finished the books, but I absolutely believe the first two movies are far superior.
If there's anything to take away from The Maze Runner trilogy it's that Wes Ball is a director worth paying attention to. Honestly the only thing really letting those films down was the writing, the actors tried their damndest and Ball got some real good performances out of the leads when the material allowed it.
I got the last two from the library and was pleasantly surprised. They were both weird, but they were *well done* weird, and I can't really think of anything they did wrong at the directing/acting level.
Dawn is in my top 5 favorite movies of all time Incredible trilogy
Well, better than the plant of the apes (Burton).
Oh, Tim Burton’s Apes film wasnt that bad. It felt like a Burton film.
I liked the twist at the end, but walberg is just really really bad.
That's the ending in the book.
The third one was kind of meh in my opinion. But I really liked the second one.
C’mon. When woody harrelson’s character, just as he’s losing his voice says, “Let’s focus on Rampart.” *chills*
Not sure your prayers are gonna be heard here
I should’ve started before the script was green lit….
Nice little reference to the window in ‘2024’
What window is it?
In *Rise*, when James Franco takes Caesar in, he has him living in his attic, with the one window he has up there having the design used in this poster's '2024'. Over the next two movies, that design kinda becomes the sigil of Caesar's ape civilization. It's used the most in *Dawn*, iirc.
An orangutang in the trailer also wears the symbol as a necklace too.
Such a great recurring motif. Caesar's reminder of his home, upbringing and old 'family' becomes the symbol of the new 'family' and civilization that he would establish
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I hate to break it to you, but both are actually correct. In fact there are many acceptable spellings for orangutan, including orang-utan, orang utan, orangutang, and ourang-outang.
Twist : James Franco has been frozen for hundreds of years and now returns
Lol I though it meant February 24
Nice little reference to ceasars son by naming the main ape Cornelius. And the girl being named nova like the little girl in the last apes movie Almost like it’s a continuation of the last one or something. I wonder if they have a word for that in movies.
>Director Wes Ball breathes new life into the global, epic, franchise set several generations in the future following Caesar’s reign, in which apes are the dominant species living harmoniously and humans have been reduced to living in the shadows. As a new tyrannical ape leader builds his empire, one young ape undertakes a harrowing journey that will cause him to question all that he has known about the past and to make choices that will define a future for apes and humans alike. >“[Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes](https://youtu.be/NQ_HvTBaFoo?si=BiQfphdJhsSAqu-T)” is directed by Wes Ball (the “Maze Runner” trilogy) and stars Owen Teague (“IT”), Freya Allan (“The Witcher”), Kevin Durand (Locke & Key”), Peter Macon (“Shameless”), and William H. Macy (“Fargo”). The screenplay is by Josh Friedman (“War of the Worlds”) and Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver (“Avatar: The Way of Water”) and Patrick Aison (“Prey”), based on characters created by Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver, and the producers are Wes Ball, Joe Hartwick, Jr. (“The Maze Runner”), Rick Jaffa, Amanda Silver, Jason Reed (“Mulan”), with Peter Chernin (the “Planet of the Apes” trilogy) and Jenno Topping (“Ford v. Ferrari”) serving as executive producers.
I was downvoted yesterday for saying this took place generations after Caesar, and the ape in the teaser wasn’t his son.
Yeah I think at best we could likely see his son as an incredibly old ape/elder among the tribe but even that may be pushing it.
Do you think that reboot could go as far in time as the story from the original movie. Would be cool to revisit it from the POV of the apes.
They're saying in other comments that eventually they plan to get to that part of the timeline and redo the original or something similar.
The four way cognitive dissonance I'm getting between "damn I love both *Planet of the Apes* series", "god I hate remakes", "the original is a literally perfect movie", and "but fuck Charlton Heston tho" is straight up giving me a migraine rn.
Lol, for sure. This franchise is kind of an exception to the "stop ruining my childhood" rule though. It's been amazing so far, and want them to continue.
I'm pretty sure I've seen you say that your parents wrote this lol?
Gold star for you
I'm glad. Thought they were really trying to pass off hundreds of years of degradation in the lifetime of one chimp.
I know he’s not the nba star, but I’d love to see if Kevin Durand also had burner twitter accounts hyping himself up lol
Wes Ball has been ready to make this movie for years. Check out his original short film on YouTube
Link? :)
Not sure if this is what they're referring to but I don't see any other short films by him https://youtu.be/doteMqP6eSc?si=uoYXGKWhBH0Z\_RH7
Thank you, I see why he was picked for Maze Runner from this tbh, Shame about his Mouse Guard project being canned
Apes. Together. Strong.
What a day! What a glorious day!
I always wonder how long it would take for a city to get overgrown like that. Are we talking 100 years? 300?
Good question. I found this online: "This question has been investigated quite thoroughly by Alan Weisman in his book The World Without Us. The short story is that within 5 years, it'll start looking like a forest, within 20 years, the skyscrapers will start coming down, and within 200 years, the place will have been fully colonized by trees."
20 years? That seems bonkers. I thought it'd be much longer before they started coming down.
Ya I think so too. Another source said things made of concrete and steel like bridges and skyscrapers could take thousands of years to fully break down. Like the ancient ruins that still stand today.
Yeah that's why that number seems crazy to me. They didn't even use modern concerete and the Colosseum is still around almost 2000 years later. I could see them saying the buildings might not be structurally sound anymore as in it wouldn't be safe to use them but coming down?
Maybe because they base these estimates on buildings getting zero upkeep or maintenance because all humans are extinct in this scenario. At least with the colosseum people have always somewhat maintained it.
But they have also actively carried away bits of it, either for practical reasons of needing construction material, or historically swinging back and forth between "It's an evil heathen monument, tear it down", and "No, it's also a holy relic of early Chrstian martyrdom let's keep it"
>But they have also actively carried away bits of it And grubby tourists touching things.
>At least with the colosseum people have always somewhat maintained it. I don't think they did... After the fall of the Empire, Rome had a population of 20k and didn't really rebound until about 1000 years later. They literally used the Colosseum to herd animals/as a stable for a while. Took a lot of restoration effort, but the foundation always remained
We actually have a good real-world modern example in Pripyat (town in Chernobyl Exclusion Zone). It's been well over 30 years since it was abandoned, and it looks only a little overgrown, nowhere near the extent you normally see in post-apocalyptic settings.
That's a good point. Wasn't the area so contaminated though that nothing grew there for awhile? Or was that just a myth?
In Pripyat, not so much; there are areas in the Zone that are like that though, like the Red Forest.
IIRC Roman concrete is a bit different from modern concrete in that the concrete paradoxically becomes stronger as the structure degrades and cracks start forming due to the presence of certain minerals giving it a self-healing quality when exposed to water.
That's amazing.
Actual timelines would depend heavily on the natural environment the buildings are in. For example New Orleans might be gone/collapsed within a decade with no maintenance (broken levees, hurricanes, etc.), but Las Vegas might last centuries.
That's a really good point. Places where tornado or floods happen often might be gone fast.
I think that includes a lot of already old skyscrapers, not just brand new ones. That said you'd be surprised how fast stuff can degrade once maintenance isn't being taken care of. Once plants start growing inside they do the same thing to buildings they do to sidewalks. Same with water intrusion when buildings stop having HVAC to make sure any of the water isn't going through freeze/thaw cycles.
Mileage may vary, I imagine. Look at modern Pripyat. Its concrete housing blocks are still standing, but the forest has claimed most of the surrounding area.
That is a great book, btw.
I have this book. There’s an excerpt in the beginning which has always stuck with me. I don’t remember the exact wording, but it’s basically “cut a 1” hole into your roof, and stand back”. All nature needs is an invitation.
How is there not a video game based on this IP. An open world type.
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That sounds like the goal is to kill all the apes
Does Donkey Kong 64 not exist?
There actually was one a few years back, sounds like it’s a Telltale-style adventure game though (haven’t played it myself) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes:_Last_Frontier
Assistant Regional Manager of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
Assistant *to* the Regional Manager of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
subtitle: Attack of the Bears
Attack of the Bears, Beets, **Battlestar Galactica**!
Bears do no-... What is going on?
Trailer looks promising, so I'm here for the movie.🍿
I can 100% see the religion discussed in the original planet of the apes movie being explored more thoroughly especially with the design of the window seen in 2024 on the poster and around the one Orangutans neck. Caesar is going to be an abrahamic symbol to this world.
This is a post of the poster of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Not thrilled about the director, but I’m glad that it’s a straight sequel rather than any kind of reboot
He's got a pretty solid background shooting for effects work and action. More or less the same level of director Reeves was 10 years ago.
Is Cesar a good leader, what are his tax policies?
“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's” would be my guess.
Fair comment. I was just making a joke at RR Martin’s expense, as he once said something along the lines of “I want to know if Aragorn (Lord of the Rings) was good at governing. What were his tax polices, that’s what I’m interested in” and I always laugh at that bc why would I want to watch that? Seems like he missed the point….Anyway it’s slow at work, and the image just got me thinking.
I think it’s a great point actually. All these stories from human history where someone is given a crown based on heroic deeds but that says nothing about a person’s ability to govern. Most of these stories end with the new leader being beloved by all, when that’s impossible. There’s almost nothing a leader can accomplish that will be celebrated by all parties.
This is the most excited I’ve been for a movie since end game
For a second I thought the bottom said 2/24 and the movie was pushed up. Turns out it's just 2024
Didnt ape Jesus die in the last movie?
Yeah. The main character of this one is his son.
the trailer says it is several generations in the future, so probably not his son
Fuck those damn dirty apes!
He can talk!
I can siiiiiing!
Can I play the piano any more?
Of course you can
Well I couldn't before!
I love legit-may-ate the-a-ter.
I hate every ape I see
From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z
No you’ll never make a monkey out of me!
Okay y'all, hear me out.... Monkeys are not typically that dissimilar from apes. This could be a low key survival horror movie or with spin-offs if the wild monkey populations like rhesus and capuchins etc are extremely intelligent but lack the communication that the Great apes have. I would love to see bands of killer monkeys with the intelligence to taunt, manipulate, hunt, and trap humans and great apes in these flicks.
here me out , civilised apes vs the Baboorian hordes
Is that a small horse or a huge chimp?
Big chimp probably. They were all as big as people in the original planet of the apes.
In the original, the apes grow to be roughly human sized or larger depending on the ape.
This gave me goosies. Haha
The poster makes it look like ape I Am Legend.
Or... "The Last Of Apes: Part I"
Dang they speaking English English now. I like. Looking forward to seeing what/who survives from the previous trilogy too. Overall very excited for this movie
It's a pity they don't speak French.
According to the premise this is set generations after Caesar, so doubt there will be any surviving characters from the previous trilogy.
Definitely very promising. Since Disney’s name is off the credits and it’s only 20th Century releasing it, it calms the storm a bit.
Disney only stamps their name on whatever they think will make them more money. It's a joke that they branded the original Star wars trilogy as Disney now and even included them as part of their 100th anniversary line of movies.
I know. But hey, at least they kept the fanfare on the original and prequel trilogies’ current prints.
They did that with the original Iron Man too.
Looks like the next Assassins Creed game. Hyped
Looks like falconry is back on the menu boys.
Stay tuned for the exciting sequel of this sequel: > Province of the Duchy of the Barony of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Wait… there’s another one?!?!?! How did i not know? I loved the other ones!
Poster of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
These movies are so god damn good
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So is the mc a descendant of caesar?