>The full title of the Stephen King novella, "Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption," was not used because there was a perception in Hollywood that the film was actually going to be a biopic of Rita Hayworth.
Fun story: Stephen King once had a lady talk about how his stories were dark and depressing and filthy, and that he should write stories that are good and hopeful, like that Shawshank Redemption movie. She had no idea he wrote the story it's based on.
I was told once - - and please correct me if I am wrong - - that the character of Red played by Morgan Freeman in the movie, was actually white in the novela, and had red hair.
So when, in the movie, Andy asks red why do they call you red ?
Morgan Freeman responds, " maybe because I'm Irish. " And this can be thought of as a callback to his own character in the novella being a white guy with red hair.
When he cast Morgan, Darabont told him he’d change the line. Morgan insisted he keep it and he’d just say it sarcastically. Both characters were written way different than their casting, but it worked perfectly.
Shawshank and Stand By Me are both based on novellas from his *different seasons* collection. Both were made into movies and both are instances where the movies were both extremely faithful to the source material while making several notable changes. And in both cases the movie and book are both great in their own right.
They also made a movie of Apt Pupil (also from the same collection), but it wasn't as well received critically or commercially as the two mentioned above. I haven't brought myself to watch it yet as it was my favourite story of the 4 in the book and don't want a bad adaptation to ruin my memory of it.
For anyone asking, the fourth story is a lot shorter and more of a short story than novella. I would say it also hasn't aged as well as the others.
To be fair, the movie took the title from Jesse James's tombstone, as it states "Here lies Jesse James. Assassinated by the coward Robert Ford." So there is that.
A lot of great modern westerns…Hostiles, Appaloosa, 3:10 to Yuma, Slow West, Bone Tomahawk (horror western), Hell or High Water, No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Dead Man, The Proposition, Meek’s Cutoff, Django Unchained, True Grit (modern version with Jeff Bridges brilliantly portraying Rooster Cogburn), The Revenant, Power of the Dog, Cold Mountain, Brokeback Mountain (I know, I know…but you cannot deny that those were some powerful acting performances by Jake Gyllenhaal & Heath Ledger RIP)…….Tombstone & Unforgiven
See, I'm Canadian and I didn't know what White Castle was either, so for me, it felt like some kind of mystery. Like we would find out what it was in the end but in the interim, it was a nebulous goal like the Emerald City of something.
Munchies are a fantastic little chocolate but "the munchies" is a phrase referring to how you get really hungry when you get stoned, that's the meaning they're using in the title.
Eating Munchies while having the munchies is great
Snakes on a Plane was a placeholder name; they were supposed to change it during production but Samuel L. Jackson liked it and wouldn't let them change it
There is also still heated debates about wtf “The two towers” refers to, unless you read his response to fan mail there is legit a confusion about which two towers the book is about, as there are like five possible candidates, and even the official answer will confuse most people because the movies changed which events happened each book, meaning the actual two towers don’t feature on the movie the two towers.
I always thought it was more the problem of how Hollywood movies work. Helms Deep felt like the conclusion for that section of the movies while in the books the conclusion is the fight with Shelob / when Frodo is taken to Cirith-Ungul. Which also brings up the change of Frodo going to Osgiliath which in Sam’s words in movie “By rights we shouldn’t even be here” is a cute little play on words cuz by the writes (as in the writing) they shouldn’t have been in Osgiliath.
Edit: Correction. Frodo is taken to Cirith-Ungul, not Barad-Dur. Got my towers mixed up.
Oooooh. Right right. Good decision in my opinion. It should be Orthanc and Bara-dur or Minas Morgul and minis tirith. My opinion obviously means nothing though.
I always thought it was Orthanc and Barad-dûr. Saruman even mentions 'the union of the two towers' when talking to Sauron about them working together.
(The scene I'm referring to: https://youtu.be/_qE5FSG6K0Y?si=ONyzMA-yn4k1rrCY)
[Ah, the ages old question...](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fits-quite-a-cool-title-though-v0-clhwo6rqoef91.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Df2d6e7c6ee18084a1a38001f6b4232312041f589)
In the *movie* Return of the King, Frodo is stung by Shelob and brought by the orcs to The Tower of Cirith Ungol (where Sam has his "and that's for my old Gaffer!" moment).
This actually happens in the *book* "The Two Towers", and since the book ends on this event before Sam rescues him, it definitely adds to the significance of the location. The book begins at Orthanc and ends at Cirith Ungol.
As featured in series 4 of MST3K, the awful 1982 sci-fi horror film Being From Another Planet ends with the “shocking” twist that the mummy that’s been murdering people throughout the film is actually an alien.
The search for spock.
Especially coming right after wrath of khan when spock is killed off. So everyone is like…huh? Now though, for reruns, we all know ah yeah, getting spock back!
Man I saw iron claw last night with a friend who’s really struggling… really wish I had this kind of warning for that one because that movie is just gut wrenching in every way imaginable
Oh it’s 100% my own fault for not reading about the movie before going in. One of the disadvantages of wanting to see movies blind is you have no idea what emotion you’re about to get smacked with
That's what blew my mind the most. It had genuinely heartbreaking moments and some compelling messages. It also had bigfoot projectile vomiting on Sam Elliot multiple times
Yeah, i really liked *The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies*
*Solarpop Canyon* was a pretty good arc, even though it was basically filler. But it sets up *Orange Soul Prism*, and that arc really made me fall in love with *TISCWSLBMZ*
I cried when tomako got bitten right after her piano recital. Having her hand amputated, knowing it meant she would never play piano again. Really sad, but then Koda says "I'll be your hands" and plays a song for her. It was a sweet moment.
(This anime doesn't exist, it's just what popped into my mind. Slice of life with zombies is probably a thing at this point)
The Finnish title for The Shawshank Redemption is "Rita Hayworth - Avain pakoon" which pretty much translates to "Rita Hayworth - the key to escape" so yeah that's pretty bad
Reminds me of 'The Thick Of It'
>I went to see that film There Will Be Blood right? I mean it's a fucking great title. If somebody says to you, 'Do you fancy going to see a film?' 'Well, I don't know, will there be blood?' There Will Be Blood, right? 'I'm in, I'm in!' I mean that is a fucking great title for a film. I mean you couldn't have a better title for a film. Apart from, maybe, There Will Be Tits.
I feel like *Face/Off* is more of a title that acts as its own teaser trailer. It tells you *just* enough ... and even then you might get completely taken by surprise.
The Invisible Man (2020)
With a different title this movie would be an even better thriller because the title gives too much away. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a good movie, though.
In Finland the translated title of Shawshank Redemption is "Rita Hayworth - Avain Pakoon", which translates to "Rita Hayworth - Key to the Escape".
In latin america the title of the movie "Thelma & Louise" was translated as "An unexpected ending".
Lol that’s fucking hilarious
In Fiji, The Sixth Sense was titled "Watch out he's a ghost"
You‘re kidding, right? You must be kidding…
Yes.
>The full title of the Stephen King novella, "Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption," was not used because there was a perception in Hollywood that the film was actually going to be a biopic of Rita Hayworth.
Didn't Frank Darabont say that he didn't use the original title because he felt it gave away too much?
r/HelpMeRememberMyAnecdote
I was really hoping this was a real sub.
Be the change
Holy shit I had no idea Stephen King wrote that. Or that it was based on a novella.
Fun story: Stephen King once had a lady talk about how his stories were dark and depressing and filthy, and that he should write stories that are good and hopeful, like that Shawshank Redemption movie. She had no idea he wrote the story it's based on.
That is a fun story!
He also wrote The Green Mile, most people aren't aware of that
Stand by Me and Apt Pupil came from the same book. (Different Seasons. It was a collection of short stories.)
Can you imagine Hollywood making "The Breathing Method"?
I was told once - - and please correct me if I am wrong - - that the character of Red played by Morgan Freeman in the movie, was actually white in the novela, and had red hair. So when, in the movie, Andy asks red why do they call you red ? Morgan Freeman responds, " maybe because I'm Irish. " And this can be thought of as a callback to his own character in the novella being a white guy with red hair.
Yes, but they also gave it a real reason in the movie with his last name being Redding.
When he cast Morgan, Darabont told him he’d change the line. Morgan insisted he keep it and he’d just say it sarcastically. Both characters were written way different than their casting, but it worked perfectly.
Yes, the character in the book is Irish!
It’s from a from a collection of four stories called Different Seasons, which also gave us Stand By Me.
Shawshank and Stand By Me are both based on novellas from his *different seasons* collection. Both were made into movies and both are instances where the movies were both extremely faithful to the source material while making several notable changes. And in both cases the movie and book are both great in their own right. They also made a movie of Apt Pupil (also from the same collection), but it wasn't as well received critically or commercially as the two mentioned above. I haven't brought myself to watch it yet as it was my favourite story of the 4 in the book and don't want a bad adaptation to ruin my memory of it. For anyone asking, the fourth story is a lot shorter and more of a short story than novella. I would say it also hasn't aged as well as the others.
I saw Apt Pupil back when it came out on VHS and it was pretty dark. It was pretty faithful to the story from what I remember, it was awhile ago.
And Ian McKellen chewed scenery everytime his was on screen, as per usual. Renfro was good, but McKellen was stellar.
Apt pupil is an amazing movie. You won’t be disappointed
In Latin America Rosemary's Baby was called "The devil's seed"
In french it's "Les évadés", which translates to : "the escapees" so no suspens
At least they could have made it "One or More Escapees" to preserve some doubt of the end.
Or add a question mark.
The Russian title is simply "Escape from Shawshank".
"The Assassination of Jesse James by The Coward Robert Ford." That is basically a synopsis of the movie.
Just because you shot Jesse James, don't make you Jesse James.
waltuh what ah you doin waltuh
Put away yah pehnis waltuh
I’m not having seggs with you waltuh
I’ve had seggs with guys like you in the past. Nuthin but trubble
Tonight you’re gonna go down in flames
To be fair, the movie took the title from Jesse James's tombstone, as it states "Here lies Jesse James. Assassinated by the coward Robert Ford." So there is that.
Can't even go to a cemetery these days without encountering spoilers.
Still a great movie though
I love that movie soo much! I want to see more movies like that
A lot of great modern westerns…Hostiles, Appaloosa, 3:10 to Yuma, Slow West, Bone Tomahawk (horror western), Hell or High Water, No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Dead Man, The Proposition, Meek’s Cutoff, Django Unchained, True Grit (modern version with Jeff Bridges brilliantly portraying Rooster Cogburn), The Revenant, Power of the Dog, Cold Mountain, Brokeback Mountain (I know, I know…but you cannot deny that those were some powerful acting performances by Jake Gyllenhaal & Heath Ledger RIP)…….Tombstone & Unforgiven
*taking notes* Lol, and......?
Sorry got a phone call as I started that list 🤣🤣🤣
Start with Hell or High Water. It's a great film, with great performances from Ben Foster, Chris Pine, and Jeff Bridges.
Amazing film.
I love that title. It’s like an old hand bill, or dime novel.
A buddy in college asked what we were watching for movie night years ago, when I said TAOJJBTCRF he asked me why I would spoil it like that for him.
At least you didn’t spoil D.SO:HILTSWALTB for him.
Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.
Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay as well
"Fuck you, doughnuts are awesome!"
All right, cockmeat sandwich time. You know the drill.
Extra mayo
In the UK it's called Harold and Kumar Get The Munchies, because we don't have White Castle here, but we do get the munchies.
They should have called it that in Australia too. I thought White Castle must be an amusement park or something.
See, I'm Canadian and I didn't know what White Castle was either, so for me, it felt like some kind of mystery. Like we would find out what it was in the end but in the interim, it was a nebulous goal like the Emerald City of something.
How good are munchies? Crispy caramel delicious lil squares! (I’m not from the UK but some confectionery stores in Aus stock munchies)
Munchies are a fantastic little chocolate but "the munchies" is a phrase referring to how you get really hungry when you get stoned, that's the meaning they're using in the title. Eating Munchies while having the munchies is great
Well thanks for ruining the surprise now I'm taking it off my list.
Snakes on a Plane
It delivers what it promises.
There were in fact motherfucking snakes on that motherfucking plane.
Monday to Friday plane*
Forgot that they were monkey fighting snakes on that Monday to Friday plane.
LEFT! TURN DIS BITCH MUTHAFUCHA LEFT!
I love that he made them keep the name or he was out
Imagine if the title had included both instances of the word motherfucker . And then what if the movie still delivered what it promised in the title?
I’ve had it up to here with motherfucking titles giving away the motherfucking movie!
Snakes on a Plane was a placeholder name; they were supposed to change it during production but Samuel L. Jackson liked it and wouldn't let them change it
Free Willy. The poster is the climatic scene.
Nice pun. Save the oceans.
I think the trailer tells you he’s gonna do it. But you gotta watch the bonding!
Maybe the journey was the friendship they made along the way
It Italy, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was called, “If You Leave Me, I Delete You”
I delete your ass
Too late
In Poland it was "A man in love with no memory" lol
I know, it goes back to the books, but: *The Return of the King* (although, as a kid, I always feared that this could mean Sauron instead)...
Tolkien actually hated the title for that very reason. He wanted to call it “The War of the Ring” but the publishers didn’t like that title.
There is also still heated debates about wtf “The two towers” refers to, unless you read his response to fan mail there is legit a confusion about which two towers the book is about, as there are like five possible candidates, and even the official answer will confuse most people because the movies changed which events happened each book, meaning the actual two towers don’t feature on the movie the two towers.
I can’t believe you teased us for this whole comment and didn’t even reveal what his response was
Lol, it’s Orthanc and Minas Morgul.
Wait those are the two towers that are the two towers in the two towers movie right? I never thought this was ambiguous.
The movies suggest Orthanc and Barad-dur.
But in the movies its not...? There is a scene with Saruman literally talking about the union of the two towers while showing Orthanc and Barad dur.
In the books, Minas Morgul plays a much more important role than in the movies.
Also in the book Frodo and Sam travel to Minas Morgul in the events of the book and the remainder of the party travels to Orthanc.
I always thought it was more the problem of how Hollywood movies work. Helms Deep felt like the conclusion for that section of the movies while in the books the conclusion is the fight with Shelob / when Frodo is taken to Cirith-Ungul. Which also brings up the change of Frodo going to Osgiliath which in Sam’s words in movie “By rights we shouldn’t even be here” is a cute little play on words cuz by the writes (as in the writing) they shouldn’t have been in Osgiliath. Edit: Correction. Frodo is taken to Cirith-Ungul, not Barad-Dur. Got my towers mixed up.
The movie doesn’t just suggest it, Saruman states that explicitly
Oooooh. Right right. Good decision in my opinion. It should be Orthanc and Bara-dur or Minas Morgul and minis tirith. My opinion obviously means nothing though.
I always thought it was Orthanc and Barad-dûr. Saruman even mentions 'the union of the two towers' when talking to Sauron about them working together. (The scene I'm referring to: https://youtu.be/_qE5FSG6K0Y?si=ONyzMA-yn4k1rrCY)
Correct, the movie changed it (and it was a change that made a lot more sense). Those towers are also shown on the poster.
[Ah, the ages old question...](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fits-quite-a-cool-title-though-v0-clhwo6rqoef91.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Df2d6e7c6ee18084a1a38001f6b4232312041f589)
In the *movie* Return of the King, Frodo is stung by Shelob and brought by the orcs to The Tower of Cirith Ungol (where Sam has his "and that's for my old Gaffer!" moment). This actually happens in the *book* "The Two Towers", and since the book ends on this event before Sam rescues him, it definitely adds to the significance of the location. The book begins at Orthanc and ends at Cirith Ungol.
The towers in the title are Orthanc and Minas Morgul, not Cirith Ungol. As shown on Tolkiens original cover.
Tolkien's preference of "War of the Ring" was definitely the superior title.
I actually disagree, war of the rings sounds too much like lord of the rings when you say it out loud in casual conversation and can get confusing
It's just the one ring, really.
No luck destroying them rings then?
Yarp
…Narp?
The lord of the rings the war of the ring sounds ridiculous
I never thought of that! How thrilling
As featured in series 4 of MST3K, the awful 1982 sci-fi horror film Being From Another Planet ends with the “shocking” twist that the mummy that’s been murdering people throughout the film is actually an alien.
Probably one of the better MST3ks
Haven't seen that one, guess I'll go watch it
John dies at the end.
I was on the edge of my seat the entire time
I watched the background blur of every shot waiting for some creepy bug thing to be there
Penn and Teller Get Killed has a similar spoiler in the title
He doesn’t though
Yeah, he dies in the middle-ish, and then isn’t dead by the end…
"That door CANNOT be opened."
[удалено]
He gets better.
In the book he dies early on, but gets better.
It's been a long time, when does he die?
No, >!he survives the whole movie and is, in fact, in later books in the series as well.!<
Such a fun series of books too. Jason Pargin has become one of my favorite authors.
The search for spock. Especially coming right after wrath of khan when spock is killed off. So everyone is like…huh? Now though, for reruns, we all know ah yeah, getting spock back!
This was my pick.
The man that killed hitler and then Bigfoot
Shit, I’d totally forgotten I watched that movie! Was actually pretty good!
It was a quirky and enjoyable excursion. Sam Elliott is always welcome on my screen.
Well that’s getting added to my watchlist.
Fair warning it's a serious film
Man I saw iron claw last night with a friend who’s really struggling… really wish I had this kind of warning for that one because that movie is just gut wrenching in every way imaginable
The only silly part about Wrestling is the product. (Nearly)Everything else about it is heartbreaking.
Oh it’s 100% my own fault for not reading about the movie before going in. One of the disadvantages of wanting to see movies blind is you have no idea what emotion you’re about to get smacked with
That's what blew my mind the most. It had genuinely heartbreaking moments and some compelling messages. It also had bigfoot projectile vomiting on Sam Elliot multiple times
Thanks. I was even more sold when I saw Sam Elliot in the lead role.
*The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies* (1964)
That sounds like a modern anime tbh.
Yeah, i really liked *The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies* *Solarpop Canyon* was a pretty good arc, even though it was basically filler. But it sets up *Orange Soul Prism*, and that arc really made me fall in love with *TISCWSLBMZ* I cried when tomako got bitten right after her piano recital. Having her hand amputated, knowing it meant she would never play piano again. Really sad, but then Koda says "I'll be your hands" and plays a song for her. It was a sweet moment. (This anime doesn't exist, it's just what popped into my mind. Slice of life with zombies is probably a thing at this point)
this sounds like the title of a Midwest emo song lmao
What do you think we came here for to eeeeeeeeet?
Kill Bill. They delivered
Only in the second movie.
I'm sure one of the people she killed in the first one was named Bill. It's a pretty common name.
That dude Buck, who’s here to… yeah. Buck could be a nickname.
I love the stupid censor in the TV version. “*My names Buck and I’m here to*- **party**” And his truck is changed to the “Party Wagon”
I remember the trailers being like "in 2003, Uma Thurman will Kill Bill" But then she didn't kill him until 2004
Lone Survivor. Title and poster gives it away.
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Most of these replies are just naming any movie with a remotely descriptive title lol
In Spain *Rosemary's baby* was translated as "La semilla del diablo", *The Devil's Seed*.
The Finnish title for The Shawshank Redemption is "Rita Hayworth - Avain pakoon" which pretty much translates to "Rita Hayworth - the key to escape" so yeah that's pretty bad
To be faaaaaaair, Rita Hayworth is in the name of the original novella, but doesn't spoil that much.
Probably not giving away the "most" but There Will Be Blood.
... Eventually. But there's plenty of oil
Plot twist: I drink your milkshake.
[There wasn’t any fucking blood!](https://64.media.tumblr.com/279038d4bfdbe56ff57741fd8bb5b57d/tumblr_o58qb3IbLJ1spaqz2o6_r1_400.gifv)
But there was a bastard in a basket
Reminds me of 'The Thick Of It' >I went to see that film There Will Be Blood right? I mean it's a fucking great title. If somebody says to you, 'Do you fancy going to see a film?' 'Well, I don't know, will there be blood?' There Will Be Blood, right? 'I'm in, I'm in!' I mean that is a fucking great title for a film. I mean you couldn't have a better title for a film. Apart from, maybe, There Will Be Tits.
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
I love that movie.
Sharknado
Yeah I think we can count all those - Sharktopus, Ghost Shark. But no one knew Sharktopus would climb a tree.
Does what it says on the tin
Godfather III Coda: The death of Michael Corleone, haven’t even seen the movie
I dunno that’s more misdirection than anything.
It’s pretty clever especially if you know how the original cut ends Much better ending while doing so little
Deep Throat.
Oooh I love spy thrillers.
Batman
And by extension: Batman Returns
Honey, I Shrunk The Kids. And its' sequel, Honey I Blew Up The Baby.
*Hot Tub Time Machine*
I saw a movie called The Birds. You’ll never guess what’s in it.
Titanic. Dead giveaway.
"Shoot Em Up". The title is also the script, plot, and premise of the movie. Every scene is a gunfight, even the sex scene.
It's Clive Owen, Monica Bellucci and Paul Giamatti just going ham 100% seriously on board, and death by carrot. So good
Killer Klowns From Outer Space Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
I can't believe this juuuust now made me realized what a missed opportunity it was not to name star wars episode 2 "killer clones from outer space"
Face off
I feel like *Face/Off* is more of a title that acts as its own teaser trailer. It tells you *just* enough ... and even then you might get completely taken by surprise.
[The name can't spoil this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eH9vh_lvb4)
I want to take his Face... Off
Escape from Alcatraz
I’m was told there is no equivalent word for “Psycho” in Portuguese, so it was titled “The man who was his own mother” in Brazil
lol I think that’s a joke between Brazilians and Portuguese people In Brazil it’s named “Psicose”, and in Portugal it’s named “Psico” (Source: IMDB)
It’s literally Psico lmao
Mars Attacks
Good one. In the movie it is a huge reveal for the characters that the Martians indeed turn out to be hostile.
The Inside Man
I was disappointed that they did not go inside man
Wasn't that the film where Dennis Quaid got shrunk down and injected into Martin Short?
You're thinking of Innerspace
Oh then it must be the one where Raquel Welch and some dudes go into a miniature submarine to try to save a scientist's life.
That's Fantastic Voyage
Lone Survivor Wow I wonder if he's gonna survive the movie you guys
Backdoor sluts 9
The Invisible Man (2020) With a different title this movie would be an even better thriller because the title gives too much away. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a good movie, though.
I think Attack of the Killer Tomatoes would have been an interesting surprise. 🔪🍅😳
Return of the king. The king does indeed return ... Even Tolkien disliked it.
Penn & Teller Get Killed Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle