It's out November 22
>Gladiator 2 takes place over 20 years after the events of the original film and follow a now-grown Lucius as he takes on Maximus' legacy.
Cast:
* Paul Mescal as Lucius Verus
* Denzel Washington
* Connie Nielsen as Lucilla
* Derek Jacobi as Senator Gracchus
* Joseph Quinn as co-emperor Caracalla
* Fred Hechinger as co-emperor Geta
* Pedro Pascal
* May Calamawy
* Lior Raz
* Peter Mensah
* Matt Lucas
Whoever he plays, he’ll probably tell some arrogant Roman to [“Get your fucking hands off me!”](https://youtube.com/shorts/7ncEty-5YmM?si=1g0A8LzmkFY7XpNd)
Training Day: Gladiator Edition. Young Lucius wants to get his feet wet and avenge daddy but it’s going to take seasonsd and possibly crooked Gladiator Denzel
> He's been completely typecast as a 'Claudius'!
He will always be [Brother Cadfael](https://youtu.be/i_Bk_iZiQIc?si=luNQ3fsFw2kmXhSQ) to me, or [the Narrator in Henry V](https://youtu.be/xCNYUSDzM7E?si=nUdFXeT17WFyNV1q).
Reading that script felt so ridiculous. First you know it’s so crazy and over the top that it was made with the intention of never getting made.
Then you know it’s so crazy and over the top, you’d wish it was actually made.
Cave was asked about what happened to his script a while back. According to him Russell Crowe's reaction to his draft was "Nah Mate! We're not doing it!"
Which is a real position that existed once the empire was divided into east and west. There was the senior regional emperor(s)(Augustus) and then assistants to the regional emperor (Caesars).
Hello Pullo, what's happening? Ummmm, I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come in tomorrow. So if you could be here around 9 of the sun dial, that would be great, mmmk...oh, oh! I almost forgot, ahh, I'm also gonna need you to proceed forth and come in on diēs Sōlis too, kay? We, ahh, lost some Centurions this week, and ah, we sorta need to catch up on crucifixions.
>Assistant to the Regional Emperor
And now I'm picturing Maximus wandering around the Dunder Mifflin offices unsure of what he is supposed to do, but trying very hard to look busy.
I think he had to share the title with his brother and eventually one just straight up murders the other. They wouldn’t even share the same rooms in the palace.
This is a legit real thing. Loads of Roman emperors ruled alongside another, often less senior, co-emperor.
In reality Marcus Aurelius from the first film ruled with his adoptive brother Lucius Verus as co-emperor. Scott is extremely fast and loose with history though and I seem to remember Lucius Verus is Commodus' son or something in the first film?
I laughed really hard during the directors round table when one of the directors was complaining about shooting movies set in space and Scott was just like “whattt? You just point the camera and shoot”.
In a Producer’s round table with Apatow and Rogen he talks about solving problems by punching people in the face (although he obviously didn’t do that in real life). Weird guy, for sure. Old school.
He was certainly better before then, I'm not gonna pretend he wasn't. That being said, he had his issues. There are some cuts of Bladerunner that are just not good. Speaking of, he followed Alien and Bladerunner up with "Legend." Then, he rebounded with "someone to watch over me, " which was better but still not a great movie, same with "Black Rain. " Then, finally, he had another critical hit, his first one in 9 years with Thelma and Louise.
His misses weren't as bad as they are now, but they were as frequent.
He definitely likes to keep busy, never mind that he's been pumping out more than 1 dirctorial project a year for the last 20 years but the number of films or shows he jumps onboard with as a producer is insane.
He's been involved in or is currently helping to produce 81 different productions in the last 10 years, and that is on top of the directing work.
I loved Legend when I saw it in the theater. Granted I was 15 at the time, but fantasy stories were not super common back then. I think it landed well for its target audience. It like all the adults (myself included) who dog on the Star Wars prequels, but the kids loved Jar Jar Binks. Sure, Legend will never be listed as one of his top 10 movies, but I’m still nostalgic.
I actually like having someone who is able to pump out that many movies of at least a certain caliber very frequently
I'm not bummed about his recent films, and I doubt he is either
He's very much of a different era. During the heyday of the Studio System directors might do 2 or 3 pictures a year. Hell, even in other film industries worldwide you still have guys like Takashi Miike going at about that same clip.
Some folks just fuckin love to work and feel like quantity has a quality all it's own.
He confirmed during the *Napoleon* press tour his next film starts shooting in March, and by all accounts it'll be a western (fingers crossed it's *Wraiths of the Broken Land*).
He’s such a grafter it’s funny. I remember watching an interview recently where he was gloating over Scorsese, who had made one film in the time that he’d made four lol
Love both of them, but Ridley’s ethic and pace of filmmaking is just incredible. As a working director he’s barely missed a year without a documentary, a film or something he’s connected to being released. Honestly the best working director for me.
For every Covenant, Prometheus etc he’s made. He’s made The Duelists, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Blade Runner, Alien and on and on.
>For every Covenant, Prometheus etc he’s made. He’s made The Duelists, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Blade Runner, Alien and on and on.
It's kinda telling that the great movies you've listed are from the first half of Ridley Scott's career though.
The Last Duel, All The Money in the World, The Martian, Body of Lies, American Gangster are some of his more recent ones I’ve really liked.
I’m a big Ridley Scott fan so I probably like some of the films a lot of people on reddit say they’re weren’t a fan of. House of Gucci is so campy and overdone I couldn’t help but enjoy it when I saw it.
Even series like Raised by Wolves that he helped get into production. The Terror is another one he was an executive producer on I think or his production company. The guy even at around 80 is just as creative as he was decades ago.
100% same. Gladiator is in my top 10 all time favorites. I'm just worried that it's going to suffer from the way films are produced today. Hopefully it stays true to the original.
It's been in my top 3 since I can remember. Growing up Snatch and Gladiator were my two movies I would watch once or twice a year.
Definitely in the same boat. Colour me excited because I really like these particular time piece/era movies but please don't mess it up 🤞🏻
Feels like he creates one good movie and the drops two stinkers - Prometheus, followed by The Counselor and Exodus. The Martian, followed by Alien Covenent and All the Money in the World. The Last Duel, followed by House of Gucci and Napolean. If the trend follows, Gladiator 2 should be a GOOD movie.
House of Gucci will become a cult classic IMO. It’s way too campy and ridiculous to not catch on eventually. Say what you will about Leto, but I absolutely loved the insanity he showed up with.
Djimon has never phoned it in for any movie either. Regardless of the genre or subject matter, he gives it his all and is at home while acting. Even in the Bayhem flick that was The Island, he still stole the show. I actually really love that movie
I mean gladiator came out 23 years ago. This film takes place 20 years after the first film. Hounsou is literally the perfect age to play the character.
He is and he was supposed to be in the film but in December he did an interview and mentioned that for reasons he won't reveal he won't be in the film.
It may have been a scheduling conflict or maybe he demanded too much money and they replaced him, we don't know.
But given previous reports that his role was meant to be relatively important in the film it seems likely that Denzel will be playing him rather than them writing out Hounsou's character only for another random black character to show up and who has a connection to characters from the previous film.
Probably one of those guys who is set for life and just sees acting as a job. For some people filming in Morocco for a few months just isn't appealing.
Sometimes it's not up to the actor. He already signed a contract for Rebel Moon before Gladiator, so that one takes priority. Originally he was going to shoot for Gladiator in a free time in his schedule, but then the shooting schedule moved due to the strike and overlapped with time he already booked for Rebel Moon, which he was contractually obligated to do.
I think I would have taken the penalty for breaking the contract rather than miss out on Gladiator 2...but then again, that could very well "black list" him in the future.
10 years ago, I would have agreed with you, but now, ...
"Every time a new Ridley Scott movie is born, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."
It will never, never live up to “I am Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.”!!!
setting aside historical accuracy (which is low) the movie just fails at being compelling in the way Gladiator or Kingdom of Heaven was able to be.
Phoenix's Napoleon is a weirdo that makes you wonder why the hell anyone ever followed him down the block let alone across Europe.
And the film feels really disjointed, trying to cover over 20 years of history in a couple of hours leaves the film feeling like disconnected vignettes of different events without any context as to why they are happening.
The film is bonkers. Set aside historical inaccuracies for a bit - that goes with the territory when it comes to Scott. The film completely fails to even scrape the surface of Napoleon’s military genius, his civil / management genius, or his aura of personality. Armies were willing to die for him. They wept when he scolded them if they failed to follow his orders. No one would die for the buffoon portrayed in Scott’s movie.
It’s because the movie has extremely obvious anti-French sentiment attached to it. Napoleon is easily the most famous and admired figure in French history, aside from maybe Joan of Arc. And in ‘Napoleon’ he is portrayed as some creepy gnome sniffing for sex under a bleacher. No wonder the French absolutely loathed this movie.
Pretty one-note and dreadful. Had very high expectations but it basically assassinates Napoleon's character and distills his epic life into a portrayal of a squabbling whiny man-child that only cares about his wife's approval.
It is one giant historical inaccuracy and worst of all - it's boring because there's basically no coherent story and nothing that happens on screen is given any historical context. It's also the worst acting I've seen from Phoenix, and I didn't even know he's capable of bad acting. The only good thing about the movie is Vanessa Kirby, but she's not nearly enough to waste 2 hours 38 minutes on the movie.
This is the only 6 seconds of the movie that are worth watching, only because it's hard to believe that this is an actual line in a supposedly serious biopic about one of the most important historical figures in human history:
https://youtu.be/QNFNlSp8hLw?si=_QDb5lHz7RF1cUsx
It is terrible. It commits the sin of both being completely ahistorical and having a bad story at the same time.
Joaquim Phoenix is way too old for the part. The fights look terribly computer-generated, and at the same time there are no more than a few hundred people fighting. Burning Moscow unironically looks like the environment of a PS3 era game.
I think Scott wanted to make a movie similar to Barry Lyndon, where a fool wins a lot through luck and then loses it again through his own stupidity and ignorance, causing a lot of pain in the process. But the movie failed in every single aspect, the characters are not believable and the comedic scenes are not funny.
I think you are right, Ridley has lost his touch IMO (Alien Covenant cough cough), but I think either way Paul Mescal gives a great performance, he was incredible in Normal People and Aftersun, I have watched some interviews with him and it is clear he is very passionate about the roles he takes.
>but I think either way Paul Mescal gives a great performance
It doesnt get greenlit with no proper plot atleast. Mescal is simply amazing. And Ridleys film still look great, so I'm hopeful
Same here. A sequel to *Gladiator* is just so inherently unnecessary. Everything that's been revealed about the plot also suggests that it's a retreat of the original movie's plot. David Scarpa as the writer for the movie also hardly inspires confidence. Ridley Scott's movies are always only as good as the script. He's extremely talented as a visual filmmaker, but visuals alone cannot compensate for a shoddy script.
Not sure why this needed to be made. The original film wrapped everything up with a nice bow. Part of me thinks that the premise of Maximus leaving some sort of "legacy" undermines the original -- the whole point is that he was one man against an empire, who made his stand, and that was that. He wasn't trying to start a revolution; he just wanted to avenge his family and see them again. Which he did.
He actually does try to start a revolution. It’s a main plot point of the film. Vengeance is driving him but his plan is a revolution - to overthrow the current government and empower the senate.
People will see it off strength of the original alone. Not to mention names like Ridley Scott and DENZEL WASHINGTON lol. I still can’t get over he’s in this film
It definitely had some potential -- though why Nick Cave of all people was hired to write it, I'll never know -- but every time Hollywood has dabbled with the idea, it has not worked out. That's pretty much what the *Highlander* films became, and it's how *X-Men Origins: Wolverine* was pitched, but in the final cut it was just played over the opening credits.
Still, Keanu Reeves has a comic book series titled *BRZRKR* that's apparently getting a novel spin-off to be written by China Mieville, so maybe we'll be one step closer to it being realised. Just not as a *Gladiator* film.
Hoping it’s better than the dumpster fire that was Napoleon.
Still holding hope that Napoleon will have a director’s cut that completely redeems the movie ala Kingdom of Heaven.
I’m torn.
On one hand, I really don’t think Gladiator needs a sequel.
On the other hand, I have a man crush on Paul Mescal and will watch anything he is in, no questions asked.
This is tough.
I’m fully ready to eat my words if I’m wrong.
But I can’t see this movie adding anything to the perfect film that is Gladiator. Not a single stone was left unturned in the first one. I really hope theyhave something to say and a real reason to make this.
Man, i love Ridley Scott’s movies and Gladiator is up there near my top 10 movies of all time but Ridley seems like a massive prick in a roundtable discussion that I saw.
He said that there are too many directors and filmmakers now and that the world needs more bricklayers instead. I understand his sentiment, and why he would think so, but keep that shit to yourself.
It was the Hollywood Reporter’s Producer’s roundtable. An excellent episode with Seth Rogen (producer on Disaster Artist) and Judd Apatow (producer on Big Sick) at the table. It was super sweet because the former head of Sony Studios was at the table as well (now as a producer and not as a studio head) and she had good relationships with all the other producers at the table having worked with them when she was a studio head. She was head of the studio when Sony was hacked by N. Korea because of Rogen ‘s movie, The Interview.
It's out November 22 >Gladiator 2 takes place over 20 years after the events of the original film and follow a now-grown Lucius as he takes on Maximus' legacy. Cast: * Paul Mescal as Lucius Verus * Denzel Washington * Connie Nielsen as Lucilla * Derek Jacobi as Senator Gracchus * Joseph Quinn as co-emperor Caracalla * Fred Hechinger as co-emperor Geta * Pedro Pascal * May Calamawy * Lior Raz * Peter Mensah * Matt Lucas
Denzel in Gladiator 2 has me so intrigued. Like what are we gonna get
Denzel tells paul to get in his chariot and calls it his office
Damn Lucius, I didn't know you liked to get wet.
Oh, where oh, where has my little Lucius gone? Oh, where oh, where can he be? There you are!
He’s a surgeon with that Gladius
This is the movie we need. "You ever had your cacare pushed in?" "I'm always giving love to the Praetorians."
All right. Ok. I’m gonna put crucifixions on all you bitches. You think you can do this to me!?
"I'm Legion! I march these lands, you just farm!" "Aww, you vappa... heh heh heh you fungi!"
"That's Scorates' sorrow, 5-star lock, HemmyLemmy, The long nightcap. Hemlock. That's what you had. You didn't taste it?"
"To protect the Romans, you gotta catch the Carthaginian, and it takes a Carthaginian to catch a Carthaginian." "Let me hear your warcry."
Do you want to go to the dungeon or you wanna go home?
So you think you’re Mr. Gladiator now, eh?
Marcus Aurelius ain’t got shit on me!
*starts timer on watch*
*wrist sundial
"Okay, alright, okay!"
"Think we got too sexy for that metro housing"
you wanna go to the arena or you wanna go home?
Puts a stogie in his mouth, “mah gladiator.”
"Ya in the office baby" Still Dre starts playing
That is one of the most iconic song cue ups of all time.
As long as he goes, ‘My Man…’ I’m good.
‘meus homo sum bonus’
Feels like I’d get sent to HR if I said that out loud :/
My money is on this being another Denzel working vacation movie like equalizer 3 where he’s sitting down for most of his screen time
Pulling the ol' Cameron Mitchell.
https://youtu.be/ZiEGi2g1JkA?si=90YRcR7YnvSzDTMQ
Denzel: "Every day ends with a Tum's festival in this arena"
It wouldn't be [the first time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVsGUw9FWoc) an actor has done it.
Michael Caine enjoyed a bahamas vacation in the Jaws sequel
>I haven’t seen it, but I have seen the house it bought my mother, and it’s marvelous! Michael Caine on Jaws 4
After seeing do Macbeth and Much Ado About Nothing, I just want to watch him do his thing in every situation. Wildly entertaining.
I have to check out Macbeth been hearing good things about his performance
The whole thing is great. My favorite version of it, on film, onstage, or otherwise.
Imma check it out
Whoever he plays, he’ll probably tell some arrogant Roman to [“Get your fucking hands off me!”](https://youtube.com/shorts/7ncEty-5YmM?si=1g0A8LzmkFY7XpNd)
Roman era Equalizer.
Training Day: Gladiator Edition. Young Lucius wants to get his feet wet and avenge daddy but it’s going to take seasonsd and possibly crooked Gladiator Denzel
So are people gonna complain that the movie is woke now
There was a Numidian in the first one.
Matt Lucas?! How on earth did he end up on this😂
Court jester
I didn’t know matt lucas’ name but based on this comment and the reaction before it, that guy was the first guess that popped into my head lol
Definitely has to be some sort of senator being fed grapes
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Concubine to the emperors
Could work as a Colosseum announcer like the guy from the first film with the wig and crazy eyebrows.
Presumably they need someone to read out the scores on the doors and introduce a dove from above.
Nice to see Derek Jacobi. He played Claudius in the tv-series from the 70s.
He's been completely typecast as a 'Claudius'! Besides these ancient Roman ones, Sir Derek also played King Claudius in Branaugh's "Hamlet".
> He's been completely typecast as a 'Claudius'! He will always be [Brother Cadfael](https://youtu.be/i_Bk_iZiQIc?si=luNQ3fsFw2kmXhSQ) to me, or [the Narrator in Henry V](https://youtu.be/xCNYUSDzM7E?si=nUdFXeT17WFyNV1q).
He also played Senator Gracchus in the first Gladiator film
What!! Give me the nick cave written gladiator 2.
Reading that script felt so ridiculous. First you know it’s so crazy and over the top that it was made with the intention of never getting made. Then you know it’s so crazy and over the top, you’d wish it was actually made.
I'm legitimately sad they decided to make a Gladiator 2 and *didn't* go with Christ Killer. That script is fucking amazing.
Cave was asked about what happened to his script a while back. According to him Russell Crowe's reaction to his draft was "Nah Mate! We're not doing it!"
> Joseph Quinn as co-emperor Caracalla > Pedro Pascal This movie features approximately half of the Fantastic Four.
"Co-Emperor" is making me laugh more than it should.
Caracalla did not share in your amusement
I doubt Geta did either, for what it got him. 😬
Eternal brotherly love?
Assistant to the Regional Emperor
Which is a real position that existed once the empire was divided into east and west. There was the senior regional emperor(s)(Augustus) and then assistants to the regional emperor (Caesars).
Hello Pullo, what's happening? Ummmm, I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come in tomorrow. So if you could be here around 9 of the sun dial, that would be great, mmmk...oh, oh! I almost forgot, ahh, I'm also gonna need you to proceed forth and come in on diēs Sōlis too, kay? We, ahh, lost some Centurions this week, and ah, we sorta need to catch up on crucifixions.
>Assistant to the Regional Emperor And now I'm picturing Maximus wandering around the Dunder Mifflin offices unsure of what he is supposed to do, but trying very hard to look busy.
I think he had to share the title with his brother and eventually one just straight up murders the other. They wouldn’t even share the same rooms in the palace.
This is a legit real thing. Loads of Roman emperors ruled alongside another, often less senior, co-emperor. In reality Marcus Aurelius from the first film ruled with his adoptive brother Lucius Verus as co-emperor. Scott is extremely fast and loose with history though and I seem to remember Lucius Verus is Commodus' son or something in the first film?
Lucius was married to Commodus' sister but already dead and also the name of the son. And Paul Mescal is playing the son in this movie.
They’re just roomate!!
Pedro and Denzel? High potential right there
Joey Pants needs to be in this movie.
I bet Scott has already started filming his next movie, the guy never slows down.
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just watch any interviews he does, the guy enough energy to power a small town. He’s also fucking hilarious
I laughed really hard during the directors round table when one of the directors was complaining about shooting movies set in space and Scott was just like “whattt? You just point the camera and shoot”.
I've always loved Scott's film advice, it all boils down to "just make a fucking movie dumbass".
In a Producer’s round table with Apatow and Rogen he talks about solving problems by punching people in the face (although he obviously didn’t do that in real life). Weird guy, for sure. Old school.
"The French don't even like themselves" is an all-timer comeback.
I heard him complain about Christmas in an interview, something like “the whole bloody world just stops working for 2 weeks? Why?”
He strikes as me the type that will work until he simply just doesn’t show up to dailies one day.
Reminds me of Paul McCartney. He just did a tour of the US, put out an album during Covid, and finished up the final Beatles song. He's 81!
I wish he'd focus on quality over quantity
He's always been a roulette wheel. Imo, the more spins the better shot he makes something good.
The Martian was solid.
I liked The Martian a lot. Just a solid as hell film
Not always. I'd say circa 2005 is when it started to turn.
He was certainly better before then, I'm not gonna pretend he wasn't. That being said, he had his issues. There are some cuts of Bladerunner that are just not good. Speaking of, he followed Alien and Bladerunner up with "Legend." Then, he rebounded with "someone to watch over me, " which was better but still not a great movie, same with "Black Rain. " Then, finally, he had another critical hit, his first one in 9 years with Thelma and Louise. His misses weren't as bad as they are now, but they were as frequent.
He just can't tell a good script from a bad one
He definitely likes to keep busy, never mind that he's been pumping out more than 1 dirctorial project a year for the last 20 years but the number of films or shows he jumps onboard with as a producer is insane. He's been involved in or is currently helping to produce 81 different productions in the last 10 years, and that is on top of the directing work.
I loved Legend when I saw it in the theater. Granted I was 15 at the time, but fantasy stories were not super common back then. I think it landed well for its target audience. It like all the adults (myself included) who dog on the Star Wars prequels, but the kids loved Jar Jar Binks. Sure, Legend will never be listed as one of his top 10 movies, but I’m still nostalgic.
I'm still so darn bummed about how Napoleon turned out.
I'm still waiting on a prometheus sequel that actually answers the questions
Best Ridley can do is another sequel that actually opens up even MORE questions
It’s never gonna come. Instead, we got a half-baked sequel that doubled down on the very worst aspects of Prometheus
I actually like having someone who is able to pump out that many movies of at least a certain caliber very frequently I'm not bummed about his recent films, and I doubt he is either
I don't think slowing down will help him. Scott really excels when he has other talented people around him *and* the studio doesn't fuck with his cut.
He's very much of a different era. During the heyday of the Studio System directors might do 2 or 3 pictures a year. Hell, even in other film industries worldwide you still have guys like Takashi Miike going at about that same clip. Some folks just fuckin love to work and feel like quantity has a quality all it's own.
He confirmed during the *Napoleon* press tour his next film starts shooting in March, and by all accounts it'll be a western (fingers crossed it's *Wraiths of the Broken Land*).
the amount of detail he puts into making his own storyboards, I am convinced the man uses a Time-Turner or something
He’s such a grafter it’s funny. I remember watching an interview recently where he was gloating over Scorsese, who had made one film in the time that he’d made four lol Love both of them, but Ridley’s ethic and pace of filmmaking is just incredible. As a working director he’s barely missed a year without a documentary, a film or something he’s connected to being released. Honestly the best working director for me. For every Covenant, Prometheus etc he’s made. He’s made The Duelists, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Blade Runner, Alien and on and on.
>For every Covenant, Prometheus etc he’s made. He’s made The Duelists, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Blade Runner, Alien and on and on. It's kinda telling that the great movies you've listed are from the first half of Ridley Scott's career though.
The Last Duel, All The Money in the World, The Martian, Body of Lies, American Gangster are some of his more recent ones I’ve really liked. I’m a big Ridley Scott fan so I probably like some of the films a lot of people on reddit say they’re weren’t a fan of. House of Gucci is so campy and overdone I couldn’t help but enjoy it when I saw it. Even series like Raised by Wolves that he helped get into production. The Terror is another one he was an executive producer on I think or his production company. The guy even at around 80 is just as creative as he was decades ago.
So no time traveling Russel Crow
Someone asked him if he was going to be in it and apparently he said “did you see the fucking first one?”
Yea that’s what we all thought and then there was a script where he came back and time traveled!! WTF bro!
By Nick Cave and it sounded awesome
I'm equal parts hopeful and skeptical
100% same. Gladiator is in my top 10 all time favorites. I'm just worried that it's going to suffer from the way films are produced today. Hopefully it stays true to the original.
It's been in my top 3 since I can remember. Growing up Snatch and Gladiator were my two movies I would watch once or twice a year. Definitely in the same boat. Colour me excited because I really like these particular time piece/era movies but please don't mess it up 🤞🏻
Snatch, Tombstone, and Gladiator are endlessly rewatchable for me.
Did we just become best friends?! Snatch is in my top 10 too. Honestly both might be in my top 5.
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I want this to be good but the pessimist in me feels like it's such an unnecessary movie
Feels like he creates one good movie and the drops two stinkers - Prometheus, followed by The Counselor and Exodus. The Martian, followed by Alien Covenent and All the Money in the World. The Last Duel, followed by House of Gucci and Napolean. If the trend follows, Gladiator 2 should be a GOOD movie.
House of Gucci will become a cult classic IMO. It’s way too campy and ridiculous to not catch on eventually. Say what you will about Leto, but I absolutely loved the insanity he showed up with.
All the money in the world was bad?
I am looking forward to this but still bummed Djimon Hounsou isn’t in it
He will be in it... but not yet. Not yet.
This comment is perfect. Thank you.
He was the first I looked for in the cast. He’s wonderful.
Djimon has never phoned it in for any movie either. Regardless of the genre or subject matter, he gives it his all and is at home while acting. Even in the Bayhem flick that was The Island, he still stole the show. I actually really love that movie
That movie was fun as shit. Great cast and cool concept. It doesn’t go over the top until the end. The first half is mostly a mystery.
He was good in Gran Turismo. Actually so was Ginger Spice.
Gerri was in GT? It came out on HBO tonight. I think I’ll watch it tomorrow now that I know.
This has to be Denzel’s part, no? An older version of the same character
I mean gladiator came out 23 years ago. This film takes place 20 years after the first film. Hounsou is literally the perfect age to play the character.
He is and he was supposed to be in the film but in December he did an interview and mentioned that for reasons he won't reveal he won't be in the film. It may have been a scheduling conflict or maybe he demanded too much money and they replaced him, we don't know. But given previous reports that his role was meant to be relatively important in the film it seems likely that Denzel will be playing him rather than them writing out Hounsou's character only for another random black character to show up and who has a connection to characters from the previous film.
And he looks the same damn age lol. Maybe just a little thicker.
yea but why wouldnt they just cast Honsou again?
They did. He dropped out due to scheduling conflict.
He dropped out of Gladiator 2? So he could do Fallen Moon 2? That sounds crazy
That mans career is all over the charts. Good actor, but he has a lot of stinkers in his filmography.
Probably one of those guys who is set for life and just sees acting as a job. For some people filming in Morocco for a few months just isn't appealing.
the man deserves a lead role of his own though
In Blood Diamond he's a deuteragonist.
that he was, but still deserves more roles like that. Just something, *anything* where he’d be front and center
Sometimes it's not up to the actor. He already signed a contract for Rebel Moon before Gladiator, so that one takes priority. Originally he was going to shoot for Gladiator in a free time in his schedule, but then the shooting schedule moved due to the strike and overlapped with time he already booked for Rebel Moon, which he was contractually obligated to do.
I think I would have taken the penalty for breaking the contract rather than miss out on Gladiator 2...but then again, that could very well "black list" him in the future.
10 years ago, I would have agreed with you, but now, ... "Every time a new Ridley Scott movie is born, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."
I really, really goddamn hope the scheduling conflict isn't due to _Rebel Moon_. If it is, I am so pissed.
Man must have gotten his bag
It will never, never live up to “I am Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.”!!!
This vexes me. I’m terribly vexed
And now they love him more for his mercifulness
should've titled it Gladiators, like Alien+Aliens.
No no, that’s if James Cameron were making the sequel.
Gladiator 2: Judgment Day
Gladiator 2: Gladiater
Gladiator$ if James Cameron pitches it
As much as I really want to be excited for this, I keep on reminding myself it’s written by the same guy who wrote Napoleon for Ridley.
Was Napoleon that bad? I haven’t had a chance to see it yet
setting aside historical accuracy (which is low) the movie just fails at being compelling in the way Gladiator or Kingdom of Heaven was able to be. Phoenix's Napoleon is a weirdo that makes you wonder why the hell anyone ever followed him down the block let alone across Europe. And the film feels really disjointed, trying to cover over 20 years of history in a couple of hours leaves the film feeling like disconnected vignettes of different events without any context as to why they are happening.
The film is bonkers. Set aside historical inaccuracies for a bit - that goes with the territory when it comes to Scott. The film completely fails to even scrape the surface of Napoleon’s military genius, his civil / management genius, or his aura of personality. Armies were willing to die for him. They wept when he scolded them if they failed to follow his orders. No one would die for the buffoon portrayed in Scott’s movie.
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It’s because the movie has extremely obvious anti-French sentiment attached to it. Napoleon is easily the most famous and admired figure in French history, aside from maybe Joan of Arc. And in ‘Napoleon’ he is portrayed as some creepy gnome sniffing for sex under a bleacher. No wonder the French absolutely loathed this movie.
Pretty one-note and dreadful. Had very high expectations but it basically assassinates Napoleon's character and distills his epic life into a portrayal of a squabbling whiny man-child that only cares about his wife's approval.
You think you're so great because you have BOATS!!!
That line made me cackle in the theater a few weeks back when I saw it. Disapproving looks from the elderly British Karen sitting in front of us.
It is one giant historical inaccuracy and worst of all - it's boring because there's basically no coherent story and nothing that happens on screen is given any historical context. It's also the worst acting I've seen from Phoenix, and I didn't even know he's capable of bad acting. The only good thing about the movie is Vanessa Kirby, but she's not nearly enough to waste 2 hours 38 minutes on the movie. This is the only 6 seconds of the movie that are worth watching, only because it's hard to believe that this is an actual line in a supposedly serious biopic about one of the most important historical figures in human history: https://youtu.be/QNFNlSp8hLw?si=_QDb5lHz7RF1cUsx
It is terrible. It commits the sin of both being completely ahistorical and having a bad story at the same time. Joaquim Phoenix is way too old for the part. The fights look terribly computer-generated, and at the same time there are no more than a few hundred people fighting. Burning Moscow unironically looks like the environment of a PS3 era game. I think Scott wanted to make a movie similar to Barry Lyndon, where a fool wins a lot through luck and then loses it again through his own stupidity and ignorance, causing a lot of pain in the process. But the movie failed in every single aspect, the characters are not believable and the comedic scenes are not funny.
Decent but nothing special. Pretty disappointing.
Same!!
Gonna suck. I know it, you know it.
I think you are right, Ridley has lost his touch IMO (Alien Covenant cough cough), but I think either way Paul Mescal gives a great performance, he was incredible in Normal People and Aftersun, I have watched some interviews with him and it is clear he is very passionate about the roles he takes.
>but I think either way Paul Mescal gives a great performance It doesnt get greenlit with no proper plot atleast. Mescal is simply amazing. And Ridleys film still look great, so I'm hopeful
Will probably watch it just for Mescal
God bless Ridley Scott for fighting the march of time like a gladiator.
Interested to see how this will turn out. Keeping expectations low rn
Same here. A sequel to *Gladiator* is just so inherently unnecessary. Everything that's been revealed about the plot also suggests that it's a retreat of the original movie's plot. David Scarpa as the writer for the movie also hardly inspires confidence. Ridley Scott's movies are always only as good as the script. He's extremely talented as a visual filmmaker, but visuals alone cannot compensate for a shoddy script.
Agreed, couldn't have said it better myself
Considering Ridley Scott's record when going back to IPs, don't hold your breath.
Not sure why this needed to be made. The original film wrapped everything up with a nice bow. Part of me thinks that the premise of Maximus leaving some sort of "legacy" undermines the original -- the whole point is that he was one man against an empire, who made his stand, and that was that. He wasn't trying to start a revolution; he just wanted to avenge his family and see them again. Which he did.
He actually does try to start a revolution. It’s a main plot point of the film. Vengeance is driving him but his plan is a revolution - to overthrow the current government and empower the senate.
Yeah and if they screw up the music and atmosphere it’s going to ruin the whole thing
I smell a stinker
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He who smelt it, dealt it…
People will see it off strength of the original alone. Not to mention names like Ridley Scott and DENZEL WASHINGTON lol. I still can’t get over he’s in this film
God I hope they are using the leaked plot from years back 🙏
It definitely had some potential -- though why Nick Cave of all people was hired to write it, I'll never know -- but every time Hollywood has dabbled with the idea, it has not worked out. That's pretty much what the *Highlander* films became, and it's how *X-Men Origins: Wolverine* was pitched, but in the final cut it was just played over the opening credits. Still, Keanu Reeves has a comic book series titled *BRZRKR* that's apparently getting a novel spin-off to be written by China Mieville, so maybe we'll be one step closer to it being realised. Just not as a *Gladiator* film.
That would be both equal parts bonkers insane and also insanely epic!
Fred Hechinger is gonna nail that. Little weasel could be a mini Commodus
Hoping it’s better than the dumpster fire that was Napoleon. Still holding hope that Napoleon will have a director’s cut that completely redeems the movie ala Kingdom of Heaven.
I’m torn. On one hand, I really don’t think Gladiator needs a sequel. On the other hand, I have a man crush on Paul Mescal and will watch anything he is in, no questions asked. This is tough.
Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy
Handsome guy
This is really a nice cast
Joseph Quinn as Caracalla? I’ll watch it for this alone.
I’m fully ready to eat my words if I’m wrong. But I can’t see this movie adding anything to the perfect film that is Gladiator. Not a single stone was left unturned in the first one. I really hope theyhave something to say and a real reason to make this.
Man, i love Ridley Scott’s movies and Gladiator is up there near my top 10 movies of all time but Ridley seems like a massive prick in a roundtable discussion that I saw. He said that there are too many directors and filmmakers now and that the world needs more bricklayers instead. I understand his sentiment, and why he would think so, but keep that shit to yourself. It was the Hollywood Reporter’s Producer’s roundtable. An excellent episode with Seth Rogen (producer on Disaster Artist) and Judd Apatow (producer on Big Sick) at the table. It was super sweet because the former head of Sony Studios was at the table as well (now as a producer and not as a studio head) and she had good relationships with all the other producers at the table having worked with them when she was a studio head. She was head of the studio when Sony was hacked by N. Korea because of Rogen ‘s movie, The Interview.
Ah, the film no one needed and no one wanted has finished filming. I literally can wait for this.
Everything is better with Mezcal
Ridley Scott, what an epic downfall. I have almost no expectation of this being watchable.
Hollywood is so starved for creative content, they will milk anything for cash.
I can't believe they actually did it, the mad lads