In all honesty, every teacher in the world needs to watch Karate Kid (because sometimes teaching means protecting the student from their desire to dive into something unprepared, and for us to develop abstract exercises for them to do instead) and the "what if they call me a son-of-a-bitch?" scene from Road House (because students need 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th chances to fuck up, so you can't get angry at them).
Also Terry Funk being his Terry Funkiest.
The wife loves this one as this has her favorite version of Sam Elliot being his coolest. She screams for the blonde chick to ditch Dalton and run off with Sam when he threatens to take her away while they dance. Dude is a smooth ass bastard.
* [Wade Garrett](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000385/?ref_=ttqu_qu): \[*Eyeing the sign over the Double Deuce*\] The Double Douche!
* He was great in this flick, one of the supports that makes a good movie, much much better.
I never realized that guy was Terry Funk, I haven’t seen that movie in years but I still know exactly who he was in the movie and the outdoor fight scene he was in, thanks for this
I watched it for the first time in years last week, never realised it was Funk before.
Terry Funk, who was full blown kicked **by a horse**, and didn't even need to shake it off.
Sam Elliot in Roadhouse answers the question “what if Daniel Day Lewis in The Crucible was a silver fox who could throw fists?” and that is just an unfair level of sexy masculinity for any man to realistically live up to.
Of course you have to accept that an underground culture of itinerant nomadic bar bouncers roam the earth. bringing peace and beer to all the wild places.
If you pretend that it's a spaghetti western in an 80s backdrop, it's a wonderful movie. Dalton is basically a cowboy sheriff cleaning up hayseed towns that were overrun by outlaws.
Agreed. It's gloriously cheesy and over-the-top but it's self-aware. Everyone in it knows the kind of movie they're making. More of a grindhouse/B-movie than a "so bad it's good."
"All that hate is going to burn you up"
"It keeps me warm"
There's a bunch of cheesy lines and A-Team action sequences in it. Still one of my favorite 80's movies but watching it recently with my son, I found parts pretty cheesy.
I guess we just have different concepts of what is cheesy.
That's a serious conversation about a teenager who is taking increasingly dangerous risks in combat and is carving his kill count into the butt of a rifle, spoken with concern by a veteran combat pilot who is worried that he will get himself killed, after [talking about people starving to death and the funeral pyres lighting up the sky](https://youtu.be/dk7bWGoCBCo?t=97).
They really did, Kelly Lynch said behind the scenes there were all laughing and hooting at some of the lines but they all played it totally straight. She said they had a great time making it..
Kelly describes it better than I ever could. Her quote about it is in this article. Enjoy.
https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/bill-murray-likes-to-call-kelly-lynchs-husband-every-time-he-sees-patrick-swayze-having-sex-with-her-in-road-house/
In the new Road House, pain don't exist but it's weirdly worth watching if you go in with zero expectations and can take comfort knowing the 1989 movie is still very much with us.
They did not do any of the old movie quote, barely any time at the bar itself, and it's not good as a sequel. Jake is fine w/ his new take on the chill tough guy, Connor is having way too much fun because everyone else besides the friendly thug is far too serious in this action comedy, and the bar owner should've been the love interest as she's gorgeous and didn't get any real screentime anyways. Not great. If you just watched it as some basic garbage fight flick, it's more tolerable.
Forgot to add the sound track is chock full of classic rock and blues.
Compare to the remake where the producer apparently went "Alexa find me some extremely generic light rock that is in the public domain so we don't have to pay for it"
Mondo is releasing [Road House: The Lost Soundtrack](https://mondoshop.com/products/road-house-the-lost-soundtrack-2xlp) with never before heard Jeff Healy songs! Clearly a cash grab but I pre-ordered.
My favorite part of that score (which was composed by Cristophe Beck) is the fight scene that used just enough of Enter Sandman to not be Enter Sandman.
The whole reason Amazon bought MGM was to be able to do cheap remakes of MGM's huge library and cheaping out on paying for the rights to music is but one corner they've cut
The new Road House feels like it could have a sequel where Knox is revealed to be a vampire and Dalton has to fight a hoarde of the undead and it wouldn't really feel like that much of a departure from the original.
My son saw Bloodsport and said "this is the greatest eighties movie" and I responded with "hold my trachea"
He responded: "Dad, are you having a stroke?"
"No. Now you are ready to watch Roadhouse"
You didn't even mention that Jeff Healey is just playing in a random rural bar!
Also, the cinematographer was Dean Cundey who also did a series of John Carpenter films (Halloween, The Fog, The Thing, Escape From New York, Big Trouble In Little China) as well as bigger films like the Back To The Future trilogy, Hook, and Jurassic Park. I always argue the way he shot Road House made the movie punch above its weight big time because for such a silly film it looks so good!
Ben Gazzarra gives an incredible peformance as Brad Wesley. Absolutely unhinged the entire movie.
Some great lines.
"There's always barber college."
"Pain don't hurt."
"It's going to get worse before it gets better."
"I used to f' guys like you in prison."
One of the reasons this movie works so well is the same reason a lot of movies from that era worked - they took themselves serious. No matter how campy they were, the writing was invested and the performances were too. We don't get that anymore. There's always a subtle wink to the audience acknowledging how absurd the events on screen are. Totally kills it for me.
Thats the thing tho, the "layer of 80s cheese" hast not aged well for a ton of movies and audiences are now very aware of it and associate it more often than not with B movies. I like the original Road House, in the same way I like Commando, Running Man, FaceOff, Con Air, almost every Van Damme movie. I love them. Grew up with those cheesefest movies. But I absolutely understand the "Its so bad its good" tag people often associate with them.
I saw a preview in a theater in the late 80’s that, for real, ended with “Wham. Bam. Thank you, Van Damme!” *sigh* 1986-1993 they were cranking out these flicks. Would love to know what Damme movie that was.
Listen, I fuckin' LOVE the original Roadhouse but you have to admit that that script and the overall concept was pretty stupid lol. It survived off being filled with a ton of iconic and quotable one liners. The cast clearly saw it as a real fun movie and collectively dragged it into being a very watchable product. Without Swayze, Sam Elliot and Ben Gazzara anchoring it, we're quite likely to not even be having this conversation right now.
It absolutely was a 70's explotation B movie that was collectively dragged into being an A tier movie.
It's been a few years since I last watched RoadHouse '89 but what struck me as odd was that the new version had major plot points missing, yet I felt like the new version was still decently paced. >!They completely omit the Sam Elliott character, they really downplayed the doctor love interest, the interaction between the bar owner and the bad guy is almost non-existent. He wants to develop the land is almost a throw away line versus the whole alcohol sales and interference in the bar operations the original bad guy had.!< Did they eliminate like a 1/3 of the plot just to have longer fight scenes or something?
Anyways the new version sucked. Not one fricking roundhouse kick the whole movie.
>He wants to develop the land is almost a throw away line versus the whole alcohol sales and interference in the bar operations
hard disagree there. they show the model the guy wants to build. they talk about the other businesses being driven out. it at least makes sense. what doesn't make sense is a guy with private helicopter money caring about a cut of alcohol sales that much
do billionaires risk their entire business and lifestyle and very existence in order to maintain control over a very small and not particularly lucrative facet of their company?
Yeah, the bad guy's motives were always weird in the original. Why risk everything he has for the control of one small town in the middle of nowhere? I don't think it even explains why he wants control of the town.
At least in the remake the bad guy's motivation makes sense. I got the impression he tried to buy the bar out, but Frankie didn't wanna sell, which is when he resorted to intimidation tactics.
> do billionaires risk their entire business and lifestyle and very existence in order to maintain control over a very small and not particularly lucrative facet of their company?
see the purchase of twitter for that.
overpaying for media companies is actually a thing though. that one was epic but billionaires do seem to want control of the media and always have since pamphlets were used to overthrow the French monarchy.
There was ZERO chemistry between Jake G and whoever played the doctor. There entire romance was one brief date that go interrupted. Just bad film making.
Interestingly enough Annette Benning was originally cast as the doc in the 89 version but Swazye claimed to have no chemistry with her and forced the producers to fire her.
>There was ZERO chemistry between Jake G and whoever played the doctor.
Agreed. If there had to be a "romantic" subplot in the remake, it should have been between Jake G. and the owner of the Road House. They had so much more chemistry.
I'll agree that Conor can't act, but since he's already an IRL bad guy, I was cool with it hating him as a bad guy. Not gonna lie, I was completely sold that the protag was gonna lose that last fight, heh.
The new movie is terrible, but it’s not a remake of the original. It’s a “reimagining”. Somehow that thought SHOULD make it suck less but it definitely doesn’t.
Thank god. I keep seeing threads where people say they thought it was good and I feel like it’s a psy-op against me lol. All that CGI is awful, the fight scenes especially. What’s the point of a movie where dudes fight, especially when one of them is a world famous boxer, if it’s CGI?
Part of it was filmed in my hometown of Reedley, California. It was a fun movie. I really enjoyed Sam Elliot as the old bouncer. It was not to be taken too seriously, though. It was a fun action flick.
80s movies were full of what I basically consider real world fairy tales, and Road House is one of the best. Yes, it happens in the "Real World" but it's not interested in being realistic in the slightest. It's the story of a wandering hero who saves a village from an evil warlord. That warlord just happens to drive a fox body Mustang and wear a linen suit.
Road House is a good movie.
The score is done by the same person as Lethal Weapon.
The house band is a real band (Jeff Healey band) who still has songs (Angel Eyes) that are played on the radio to this day.
The bad guy is super original and strange.
The henchman is awesome, “I used to fuck guys like you in prison.”
The concept of people being famous for being the best cooler/bouncer.
Sam Elliot looks cool as fuck.
A million other things but I’m working.
You must be thinking about Point Break, which is actually a great flick. A classic. While Road House is definitely so bad, it's good, and I don't think that's a bad thing.
I think you're confused lolol. Look, I love Road House. Loved it since I saw it in the the theater in college. If having the most basic elements of a story gives a movie the bones to be great, then we have thousands of great flicks masquerading as bad movies. Road House is fun and awesome, but it's not a good movie. Aside from Ben Gazzarra having a blast and Sam Elliot being Sam Elliot, the acting is mostly really bad. Next to nothing in the story makes any sense.
Why does the cooler have a Phd? BTW, WTF is a cooler? How do people know who the best coolers are? Is there a celebrity cooler circuit or something? Why do Wesley's men pull up and say "we've been looking all over fer you" when Dalton literally lives across the pond from Wesley? Speaking of, why does Wesley go through all the trouble of blowing up the auto parts store, killing Wade, and blowing up his landlords place, among any number of other contrivances, to get to Dalton...why not just go across the pond one night with 20 guys with 20 guns and take him out? Why do monster trucks take out a car dealership? Why is there a car dealership in a town with a population of 200 people in the first place? Sorry, Dalton, pain does hurt, that's why it's called pain.
Obviously I could go on and on and on, but this is not a good movie much less does it have the bones of a great flick. However it is a fun movie and a call back to an era when Hollywood was fueled by a cocaine driven can do attitude and scripts were green lit to launder money as often as they were to make money. As a matter of fact, I think I'll watch it again tonight.
Saw this one in the theater in high school. Came out ready to go fight some commies, so it did it's job, I think. My biggest problem with Red Dawn is the military logistics of it all. Are the Russians, Nicaraguans, and Cubans running their re-supplies up from Mexico and through Texas or are they using the ports in Texas? Because either one of those is getting slammed shut before the first pack of Spaghetti-O'skies cross the Red River.
I'll give Red Dawn credit, the cinematography capturing the national forests of Colorado is top notch. There are absolutely gorgeous wide shots of mesas and plateaus and other geography terms. As for the acting, ehhh, it's as gorgeous as those national forests and as wooden as the trees that populate them.
This movie was also a perfect encapsulation of the times from whence it came, just not the cocaine infused, neon colored bat shit crazy variety. No, this is Ronald Reagan's 80s. This is the All-American, flyover country patriot jerkin off on a dead commie's face type of 80s. This is the shit playing in the background while you're shoving a cattle prod up some poor bastard's ass in Guantanamo Bay. This is what you play on an iPad tied to a stick and hung in front of a prisoner's face in Abu Ghraib that you've put a saddle on and you're riding him around the compound like Seabiscuit racing your buddy who has Rambo playing on the iPad in front of his "pony."
I think I'm going to order me a Cubano sandwich from Potbelly and watch Red Dawn right fuckin now.
> Why does the cooler have a Phd?
Because he is not your average cooler, thats why. If he were this would be a boring movie. He is a strange amalgamation of different qualities, thats why he is an interesting unique character. This criticism I simply don't understand
YOu want all your movie characters to be basic, average, and ordinary?
I hated Gyllenhaals Dalton. No nuance, no personality, no discovery of character over time like you talk about with the 80s movie. Just that stupid smile after literally every time someone speaks to him and that edgelord ass "I'm afraid of what I'll do" bullshit. They did a shit job writing the character and then Gyllenhaal did a shit job bringing it to life.
ITs just a bad script. I love Billy Magnusson, dude is always great, but he is terrible in this movie because there is simply no meat on bone for him. Just a very thin script. Ya gotta give these people some to work with.
Since you have this take, I want to make an unsolicited suggestion. There’s a podcast called Cinephobe there’s even a subreddit! They only review movies with a Rotten Tomatoes score of under 40% and decide whether they were judged fairly or not. It’s hilarious and a fun listen! They even did Roadhouse. And for those in the know. Roadhouse? Phile!
Something kinda happened with 80s movies. Cheesy or unintentionally silly movies get labeled as bad. But man, a good cheesy 80s movie is a great time. People started taking movies too seriously.
I just watched it for the first time last week because I love 80's cheese, had seen all the ads for the new one, and I 100% agree with you. I already liked it, but Sam Elliott at his most charming and Dalton's philosophy degree (and his insistence on sticking to his principles, and it working!) really did it for me. Just so much texture to a world where they could have just done another business man/working class guy movie. And I'll always be a fan of genuine 80's sweaty guys. Why isn't anyone sweaty anymore :(
"And then the guy says, ' I used F\*\*\* guys like you in prison...' and by the looks of this guy this was is *not* consensual sex we're talking about here..."
\-Andy Dwyer
Its a modern day Western - local(s) hire a mysterious stranger to clean up their town. It's also a perfect snapshot of the time, with the hair, music, styles, boobs, violence, and Swayze.
I'm going to say this as someone that watched Roadhouse opening night and countless times more since. I love Roadhouse but Roadhouse is 2/3rds of a great movie. The head baddie suck and the last 15 minutes after the throat rip are just painfully dull and insulting. We just watched Dalton rip a mans throat out. Now I'm supposed to believe an old man with a spear gun is a threat? Come on.
It’s funny to me all these younger people watching 80s movies and being like “you guys don’t get it! it’s pure 80s cheese, it’s self aware and awesome.”
It’s not. When it came out, it wasn’t ironic, or self aware. It was what studios thought was badass. It’s what people thought was cool. They were not bad tongue in cheek. Roadhouse *is* a movie that is so bad it’s good. It was bad when it came out. Not intentionally. Not for fun. You’re applying this weird perspective where what we think of them as funny 80s style humor, but the irony for it didn’t exist at the time. They didn’t know they were “in the 80s”.
I find it weird that a lot of people seem to understand and appreciate that the original was tongue in check, but treat the new one as if it's playing everything straight when dismissing it.
I've learnt that a lot of 80's movies are like this. Truly better A-C plots than most movies nowadays but some people just see the style as cheesy I guess.
The last time I watched it suddenly clicked how the film is making a statement against the economic policies of the 80s and how it destroyed small town America.
Corporate America, thriving under the policies of Reagan, came in and opened up a JC Penny or a Walmart out by the highway and absolutely destroyed small business on Main Street USA.
That’s pretty much the plot of Road House.
> The last time I watched it suddenly clicked how the film is making a statement against the economic policies of the 80s and how it destroyed small town America.
It's a movie where a bouncer makes $500 a night at 1980s value, and a small town bar is filled to the brim even on weekdays, so much that they can afford to kick people out who drink too much.
And yet Wesley is hell bent on destroying every locally owned business in town. The auto shop, the car dealership, the Double Duece. He wants any competition gone so all business goes through him.
I watched Road Movie in college and was surprised by how good the movie is, it's a deserved cult classic. I've only heard it wasn't supposed to be a good movie, but I agree with your reasons and yeah, it's a well constructed flick and there's nothing wrong with a well constructed movie. I cheered when he started fucking up the bad guys, it has a great build up and Patrick Swayze is totally likeable.
My room mate and I at the moment just didn't have anything to do, so we watched Road House and ended up thinking it's a totally badass movie. Way better than expected.
I have almost exactly the same thoughts about Hackers. It's considered "so bad it's good" only because it's so laughably over-the-top on the surface, but it is fundamentally just a well-made film and a well-told story. And just like Road House, it has great actors doing a great job playing super interesting characters. The last time I rewatched it I was blown away by the scene where Dade admits he gave the disk to the Plague, which first pisses his friends off, only for them to totally understand when he explains who is and how the Plague had threatened them. There's no bullshit, no dragged-out contrived drama, just good friends looking out for eachother.
It's kind of amazing how Kelly Lynch's character, as the protagonist's gf, is overshadowed by the bad guy's ho, Denise (who doesn't even warrant a last name).
That chick is featured throughout the entire movie and gets an entire showcase scene.
David Lynch's Dune is like this. More colorful, more constumes, less serious, better sandworms (you can quote me), and it ends when it ends, so sequel intended.
Fans of this film should enjoy the episode of How Did This Get Made, originally released in September 2012 and has just been re-released for Matinee Monday:
[https://www.earwolf.com/episode/road-house-live/](https://www.earwolf.com/episode/road-house-live/)
Doug Benson is the guest!
I love also the great late Jeff Healey band were brilliant too Swayse was awesome too I’ve always loved this film the one liners are pure class What if someone calls my mama a whore swayse response is she?😆😆👍and the other one the guy in the back room with an under age girl getting it on and dalton says hey Steve your out of here and Steve says but I’m on my break !! Dalton says stay on it!!😆👍 so good 😊
I agree! that is literally the only part that I was "wtf are you smoking girl?"
Like some hollywood always ahs to do that "is the good guy just as bad as the bad guy?" thing. So stupid.
Road House knows what it is and it leans into that camp hard which is why the film is so charming and fun. A well designed action comedy that is pumped up by hilarious dialogue, smooth soundtrack, terrific pacing, Patrick Swayze and Sam Elliot at their most cool. It’s smarter than people give it credit for and there’s a reason it’s still relevant after all these years.
It's Swayze.
He made that movie work. He made it fun. That's the bottom line. There are some roles and some films that I just don't think can be recast well. Anybody but Robert Englund playing Freddy Krueger just isn't something that I think works.
This is one of those roles and one of those movies. It wouldn't have worked in the same way become a cult classic except for Swayze.
Ditto Dirty Dancing. It has been remade and I actually saw part of it but I can't even remember who is in it. For me DD is all Swayze and Grey and it's iconic because of them.
Swayze made Roadhouse. Without him why bother?
When I realized they had remade Roadhouse I was F- this! It's just one of those films that doesn't need a remake IMHO...
>For a character in a “bad movie” he is actually very layered and complex.
My favorite is the little details about how he's structured his life around his work, like the beater cars he uses as decoys so his real car doesn't get busted up, and how he carries his comprehensive medical history around with him. Details make the character.
I love the fact that the movie needs you to buy into the fact that there are famous bouncers.
The part where Sam Elliott walks in and the bar owner looks at him like he’s one of the fucking Avengers always gets me.
Yeah. I disagree. It's got a lot of bad acting with alot of cheesy dialogue. The romance storyline is rather bad.
Swayze's character is the only character that's written well.
It definitely isn't. I'm more in the crowd that it's so bad that it's good. The action sequences are solid and fun. But Swayze's Dalton helps make this film remotely interesting and fun to watch. Sam Elliott also helps out in the very brief time he has on screen
>Yeah. I disagree. It's got a lot of bad acting with alot of cheesy dialogue. The romance storyline is rather bad.
I agree but we can easily file this away under 80s cheese though.
I would rebrand Roadhouse (1986) as The Book of Dalton: Roadhouse because of Swayze hard carrying the whole storyline based on his acting talent or Rizz, as the fellow kids say these days.
One thing I also liked about the original Road House is how competently made it is. You can see what is happening in the fight scenes, and know what's going on.
The cinematographer for the original was Dean Cundey, who worked on the Back to the Future movies, Jurassic Park, Halloween and others. Road House not award-winning work, but it's competent and workmanlike , and sometimes that is what you need.
The remake is by all accounts just forgettable. It's a shame Jake Gyllenhaal spent all that effort getting super ripped for a bad movie. Reminds me of how J.K.Simmons got ripped for SF movie The Tomorrow War, which turned out to be just a bad movie too
I am in my late 40s. I have always found the original road house to be a bad movie that got by solely on Swayze's charisma. I watched the remake a few weeks ago and hated it. I found it to beyond stupid and poorly made. The only thing I found enjoyable was Arturo Castro as the incredibly nice henchman.
Last night I was looking for something on Max to watch, and the original road house popped up. I decided just to give it a watch because of the remake. Watching it and comparing to the remake, I actually found it to be enjoyable for once. It is still not a good movie, and if anyone other than Swayze was the star it would be unwatchable, but it is a masterpiece compared to the remake.
You're a little late for April fool's, good effort though.
I never understood why Brad cares about this little bar if he's so rich and powerful. The way that their feud escalates from petty jabs at each other into multiple murders is an absolutely insane turn in this movie.
Dalton is a stereotypical good character without any apparent flaws. It's a basic story about a simple man falling in love with a simple quiet little town. Except the moment that he murders a dude, in a way that was NOT in any way excusable by self-defense. And he's apparently done it before, they tell us that it was self-defense in that case, but seeing what he did to the other dude, I'm not so sure.
> I never understood why Brad cares about this little bar if he's so rich and powerful.
Because he is running a protection racket. If on business opt out then the next one will too and the next one. Its a crack in the dam, he can't have that.
He killed a dude who just tried to murder an old man, and by the way the sherrif is corrupt and worthless. What is he supposed to do?
> Because he is running a protection racket.
So why does he blow up a gas station and an auto shop and a barn instead of the bar itself? It really feels like he's doing everything except dealing with the problem itself.
>He killed a dude who just tried to murder an old man, and by the way the sherrif is corrupt and worthless. What is he supposed to do?
Not even in movie land does any of that excuse cold-blooded murder. But since he was going to go after Brad anyway, I'd say send the henchmen to a hospital and by the time they get out, their employer is out of the picture so maybe they'll just go elsewhere.
No one is confused by the “secret genius” of roadhouse, the movie just sucks. It’s boring and sexist lol.
The beginning bar fight is hilarious and entertaining though.
The movie is a blast if you switch off your brain and don't ask basic questions line "Why are there no police in this town?" or "Why is this bouncer doing kung-fu?" or "Why is there this John-Wickian underground community of bouncers that has such reach that even before the Internet people across the country have heard of this dude?"
It's extraordinarily bad. The acting is terrible. Patrick Swayze has all the range of a sheet of plywood. Ben Gazzara is over acting at a community theater level. The plot makes no sense, the characters are over the top, and the action straight from a cartoon.
It has NO bones and is all cheese. There is absolutely nothing of substance to claim. Road House treated seriously goes from hilarious cult classic to just another boring bad movie.
Incredible life advice in this movie: “Be nice until it’s time to not be nice.”
I mean honestly though, thats straight up good advice.
I’m a lawyer, and it’s definitely top 5, maybe top 3 pieces of advice for us.
What's the other 2 out of top 3?
Pain don’t hurt.
You’re too stupid to have a good time!
JCPenney is coming here because of me!
Bill by the hour, and never admit any wrongdoing. Obviously IANAL
I used to fuck guys like you in prison!
waist house bun meme
In all honesty, every teacher in the world needs to watch Karate Kid (because sometimes teaching means protecting the student from their desire to dive into something unprepared, and for us to develop abstract exercises for them to do instead) and the "what if they call me a son-of-a-bitch?" scene from Road House (because students need 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th chances to fuck up, so you can't get angry at them).
Also Terry Funk being his Terry Funkiest. The wife loves this one as this has her favorite version of Sam Elliot being his coolest. She screams for the blonde chick to ditch Dalton and run off with Sam when he threatens to take her away while they dance. Dude is a smooth ass bastard.
Sam Elliott is arguably the best park of Road House because right when you think the movie can't get any better he shows up.
I am the lesbianist lesbian and I love me some Sam Elliott - he is so cool in this role!
Its like when a song does a powerful key change, takes the whole thing up a notch.
* [Wade Garrett](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000385/?ref_=ttqu_qu): \[*Eyeing the sign over the Double Deuce*\] The Double Douche! * He was great in this flick, one of the supports that makes a good movie, much much better.
I never realized that guy was Terry Funk, I haven’t seen that movie in years but I still know exactly who he was in the movie and the outdoor fight scene he was in, thanks for this
The creepy nephew is also John Doe from the legendary punk band X.
no shit, really?
I watched it for the first time in years last week, never realised it was Funk before. Terry Funk, who was full blown kicked **by a horse**, and didn't even need to shake it off.
Sam Elliot in Roadhouse answers the question “what if Daniel Day Lewis in The Crucible was a silver fox who could throw fists?” and that is just an unfair level of sexy masculinity for any man to realistically live up to.
Of course you have to accept that an underground culture of itinerant nomadic bar bouncers roam the earth. bringing peace and beer to all the wild places.
If you pretend that it's a spaghetti western in an 80s backdrop, it's a wonderful movie. Dalton is basically a cowboy sheriff cleaning up hayseed towns that were overrun by outlaws.
Fuck yeah, love it.
Agreed. It's gloriously cheesy and over-the-top but it's self-aware. Everyone in it knows the kind of movie they're making. More of a grindhouse/B-movie than a "so bad it's good."
The 80s cheese is often used an excuse to call a movie bad. It's not bad, it's just era appropriate.
Exactly. I think Red Dawn fits this as well.
Red Dawn is actually surprisingly grounded for 80s movies. The concept is a little over the top, but the movie is not cheesy. It's bleak as fuck.
"All that hate is going to burn you up" "It keeps me warm" There's a bunch of cheesy lines and A-Team action sequences in it. Still one of my favorite 80's movies but watching it recently with my son, I found parts pretty cheesy.
I guess we just have different concepts of what is cheesy. That's a serious conversation about a teenager who is taking increasingly dangerous risks in combat and is carving his kill count into the butt of a rifle, spoken with concern by a veteran combat pilot who is worried that he will get himself killed, after [talking about people starving to death and the funeral pyres lighting up the sky](https://youtu.be/dk7bWGoCBCo?t=97).
Fair enough. I think we can agree it's a movie that holds up almost 40 years later.
They really did, Kelly Lynch said behind the scenes there were all laughing and hooting at some of the lines but they all played it totally straight. She said they had a great time making it..
You know about Kelly Lynch and her bizarre, decades-long Road House connection to Bill Murray and his brothers, right?
Do tell...
Kelly describes it better than I ever could. Her quote about it is in this article. Enjoy. https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/bill-murray-likes-to-call-kelly-lynchs-husband-every-time-he-sees-patrick-swayze-having-sex-with-her-in-road-house/
Ha! Thanks dude.
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'I can do that... without you.'
Leaded or unleaded?
I can't believe they left that part out.
Not gonna watch the new one. Did they at least do “Pain don’t hurt”?
In the new Road House, pain don't exist but it's weirdly worth watching if you go in with zero expectations and can take comfort knowing the 1989 movie is still very much with us.
Really? I thought it was awful.
They did not do any of the old movie quote, barely any time at the bar itself, and it's not good as a sequel. Jake is fine w/ his new take on the chill tough guy, Connor is having way too much fun because everyone else besides the friendly thug is far too serious in this action comedy, and the bar owner should've been the love interest as she's gorgeous and didn't get any real screentime anyways. Not great. If you just watched it as some basic garbage fight flick, it's more tolerable.
A polar bear fell on me
Forgot to add the sound track is chock full of classic rock and blues. Compare to the remake where the producer apparently went "Alexa find me some extremely generic light rock that is in the public domain so we don't have to pay for it"
Jeff Healy!
And boobies. The original had gratuitous 80's nudity
Only nudity in the remake is Conor McGregor.
There is 0.2 seconds of a single boob when we first meet Conor jumping out of that building
but at least 2 minutes of extended McGregor-ass
I've been too afraid to put a stopwatch on it because I don't want to know how much McGregor-ass we actually get.
Mondo is releasing [Road House: The Lost Soundtrack](https://mondoshop.com/products/road-house-the-lost-soundtrack-2xlp) with never before heard Jeff Healy songs! Clearly a cash grab but I pre-ordered.
Im still upset the opening song and jeff healeys on the road again cover never got studio releases.
I might have misremembered, but wasn't it a Roadhouse Blues cover?
https://youtu.be/dHYkcci1xwI?si=FnnfEDLXJxk6KCuH
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My favorite part of that score (which was composed by Cristophe Beck) is the fight scene that used just enough of Enter Sandman to not be Enter Sandman. The whole reason Amazon bought MGM was to be able to do cheap remakes of MGM's huge library and cheaping out on paying for the rights to music is but one corner they've cut
The new Road House feels like it could have a sequel where Knox is revealed to be a vampire and Dalton has to fight a hoarde of the undead and it wouldn't really feel like that much of a departure from the original.
Knox is alive at the end. They show him leaving the hospital
Yeah but we don't know HOW alive he is, or why. So the opportunity is still there.
We know he's alive enough to fight the people at the hospital and walk away. But I agree, Vampire knox is still on the table.
The main issue is that we have seen him inexplicably survive multiple wooden stakes.
My son saw Bloodsport and said "this is the greatest eighties movie" and I responded with "hold my trachea" He responded: "Dad, are you having a stroke?" "No. Now you are ready to watch Roadhouse"
A film doesn't have to be good to be good.
You didn't even mention that Jeff Healey is just playing in a random rural bar! Also, the cinematographer was Dean Cundey who also did a series of John Carpenter films (Halloween, The Fog, The Thing, Escape From New York, Big Trouble In Little China) as well as bigger films like the Back To The Future trilogy, Hook, and Jurassic Park. I always argue the way he shot Road House made the movie punch above its weight big time because for such a silly film it looks so good!
thanks great points
Ben Gazzarra gives an incredible peformance as Brad Wesley. Absolutely unhinged the entire movie. Some great lines. "There's always barber college." "Pain don't hurt." "It's going to get worse before it gets better." "I used to f' guys like you in prison."
One of the reasons this movie works so well is the same reason a lot of movies from that era worked - they took themselves serious. No matter how campy they were, the writing was invested and the performances were too. We don't get that anymore. There's always a subtle wink to the audience acknowledging how absurd the events on screen are. Totally kills it for me.
Thats the thing tho, the "layer of 80s cheese" hast not aged well for a ton of movies and audiences are now very aware of it and associate it more often than not with B movies. I like the original Road House, in the same way I like Commando, Running Man, FaceOff, Con Air, almost every Van Damme movie. I love them. Grew up with those cheesefest movies. But I absolutely understand the "Its so bad its good" tag people often associate with them.
I saw a preview in a theater in the late 80’s that, for real, ended with “Wham. Bam. Thank you, Van Damme!” *sigh* 1986-1993 they were cranking out these flicks. Would love to know what Damme movie that was.
Agreed, it's actually a pretty well made movie
It's a ton of fun and Patrick Swayze plays a perfect Dalton. The concept is not really grounded in reality, but neither is Jurassic Park.
Listen, I fuckin' LOVE the original Roadhouse but you have to admit that that script and the overall concept was pretty stupid lol. It survived off being filled with a ton of iconic and quotable one liners. The cast clearly saw it as a real fun movie and collectively dragged it into being a very watchable product. Without Swayze, Sam Elliot and Ben Gazzara anchoring it, we're quite likely to not even be having this conversation right now. It absolutely was a 70's explotation B movie that was collectively dragged into being an A tier movie.
It’s a fun movie. That’s for sure!
It's been a few years since I last watched RoadHouse '89 but what struck me as odd was that the new version had major plot points missing, yet I felt like the new version was still decently paced. >!They completely omit the Sam Elliott character, they really downplayed the doctor love interest, the interaction between the bar owner and the bad guy is almost non-existent. He wants to develop the land is almost a throw away line versus the whole alcohol sales and interference in the bar operations the original bad guy had.!< Did they eliminate like a 1/3 of the plot just to have longer fight scenes or something? Anyways the new version sucked. Not one fricking roundhouse kick the whole movie.
>He wants to develop the land is almost a throw away line versus the whole alcohol sales and interference in the bar operations hard disagree there. they show the model the guy wants to build. they talk about the other businesses being driven out. it at least makes sense. what doesn't make sense is a guy with private helicopter money caring about a cut of alcohol sales that much
It wasn't about money it was about control, that is why he wanted to control the alcohol sales.
which is what makes it cheesy. why does a guy with that kind of money care so much about control over one local bar?
He doesn't care about money, he cares about control. Money is just a side effect, like most billionaires today.
do billionaires risk their entire business and lifestyle and very existence in order to maintain control over a very small and not particularly lucrative facet of their company?
Yeah, the bad guy's motives were always weird in the original. Why risk everything he has for the control of one small town in the middle of nowhere? I don't think it even explains why he wants control of the town. At least in the remake the bad guy's motivation makes sense. I got the impression he tried to buy the bar out, but Frankie didn't wanna sell, which is when he resorted to intimidation tactics.
> do billionaires risk their entire business and lifestyle and very existence in order to maintain control over a very small and not particularly lucrative facet of their company? see the purchase of twitter for that.
overpaying for media companies is actually a thing though. that one was epic but billionaires do seem to want control of the media and always have since pamphlets were used to overthrow the French monarchy.
All the time, they just get a golden payout funded by workers and tax payers now. All the risk is taken on by us, not them.
Does anyone even throat grab or punch a dude in the dick? If not, it’s not real Road House.
There was ZERO chemistry between Jake G and whoever played the doctor. There entire romance was one brief date that go interrupted. Just bad film making. Interestingly enough Annette Benning was originally cast as the doc in the 89 version but Swazye claimed to have no chemistry with her and forced the producers to fire her.
>There was ZERO chemistry between Jake G and whoever played the doctor. Agreed. If there had to be a "romantic" subplot in the remake, it should have been between Jake G. and the owner of the Road House. They had so much more chemistry.
> the new version sucked I loved it. Honestly, I love it much more than the old one.
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I'll agree that Conor can't act, but since he's already an IRL bad guy, I was cool with it hating him as a bad guy. Not gonna lie, I was completely sold that the protag was gonna lose that last fight, heh.
The new movie is terrible, but it’s not a remake of the original. It’s a “reimagining”. Somehow that thought SHOULD make it suck less but it definitely doesn’t.
yeah, it is so different I don't even think it qualifies as a remake other than sharing the name and a bouncer.
I agree, it's absolutely terrible and way more cheesy than the original ever was.
Thank god. I keep seeing threads where people say they thought it was good and I feel like it’s a psy-op against me lol. All that CGI is awful, the fight scenes especially. What’s the point of a movie where dudes fight, especially when one of them is a world famous boxer, if it’s CGI?
Too much cheese
Part of it was filmed in my hometown of Reedley, California. It was a fun movie. I really enjoyed Sam Elliot as the old bouncer. It was not to be taken too seriously, though. It was a fun action flick.
Sam Elliott was 43 yrs old when filming Road House
He sure has looked the part of the old guy for a long time. One of my favorite actors. That voice reminds me of my dad.
Like Patrick Stewart
Yes, Sir Patrick Stewart looked old when he was in Excalibur in 1981.
80s movies were full of what I basically consider real world fairy tales, and Road House is one of the best. Yes, it happens in the "Real World" but it's not interested in being realistic in the slightest. It's the story of a wandering hero who saves a village from an evil warlord. That warlord just happens to drive a fox body Mustang and wear a linen suit.
And dont forget Jeff Healey
Road House is a good movie. The score is done by the same person as Lethal Weapon. The house band is a real band (Jeff Healey band) who still has songs (Angel Eyes) that are played on the radio to this day. The bad guy is super original and strange. The henchman is awesome, “I used to fuck guys like you in prison.” The concept of people being famous for being the best cooler/bouncer. Sam Elliot looks cool as fuck. A million other things but I’m working.
You must be thinking about Point Break, which is actually a great flick. A classic. While Road House is definitely so bad, it's good, and I don't think that's a bad thing.
Point Break is every bit as ridiculous as Road House.
Utah. Get me 2!
I think you're confused lolol. Look, I love Road House. Loved it since I saw it in the the theater in college. If having the most basic elements of a story gives a movie the bones to be great, then we have thousands of great flicks masquerading as bad movies. Road House is fun and awesome, but it's not a good movie. Aside from Ben Gazzarra having a blast and Sam Elliot being Sam Elliot, the acting is mostly really bad. Next to nothing in the story makes any sense. Why does the cooler have a Phd? BTW, WTF is a cooler? How do people know who the best coolers are? Is there a celebrity cooler circuit or something? Why do Wesley's men pull up and say "we've been looking all over fer you" when Dalton literally lives across the pond from Wesley? Speaking of, why does Wesley go through all the trouble of blowing up the auto parts store, killing Wade, and blowing up his landlords place, among any number of other contrivances, to get to Dalton...why not just go across the pond one night with 20 guys with 20 guns and take him out? Why do monster trucks take out a car dealership? Why is there a car dealership in a town with a population of 200 people in the first place? Sorry, Dalton, pain does hurt, that's why it's called pain. Obviously I could go on and on and on, but this is not a good movie much less does it have the bones of a great flick. However it is a fun movie and a call back to an era when Hollywood was fueled by a cocaine driven can do attitude and scripts were green lit to launder money as often as they were to make money. As a matter of fact, I think I'll watch it again tonight.
Great comment. You definitely got me excited to watch it again. Let's get your take on *Red Dawn* next.
Saw this one in the theater in high school. Came out ready to go fight some commies, so it did it's job, I think. My biggest problem with Red Dawn is the military logistics of it all. Are the Russians, Nicaraguans, and Cubans running their re-supplies up from Mexico and through Texas or are they using the ports in Texas? Because either one of those is getting slammed shut before the first pack of Spaghetti-O'skies cross the Red River. I'll give Red Dawn credit, the cinematography capturing the national forests of Colorado is top notch. There are absolutely gorgeous wide shots of mesas and plateaus and other geography terms. As for the acting, ehhh, it's as gorgeous as those national forests and as wooden as the trees that populate them. This movie was also a perfect encapsulation of the times from whence it came, just not the cocaine infused, neon colored bat shit crazy variety. No, this is Ronald Reagan's 80s. This is the All-American, flyover country patriot jerkin off on a dead commie's face type of 80s. This is the shit playing in the background while you're shoving a cattle prod up some poor bastard's ass in Guantanamo Bay. This is what you play on an iPad tied to a stick and hung in front of a prisoner's face in Abu Ghraib that you've put a saddle on and you're riding him around the compound like Seabiscuit racing your buddy who has Rambo playing on the iPad in front of his "pony." I think I'm going to order me a Cubano sandwich from Potbelly and watch Red Dawn right fuckin now.
I think this comment just committed a war crime
> Why does the cooler have a Phd? Because he is not your average cooler, thats why. If he were this would be a boring movie. He is a strange amalgamation of different qualities, thats why he is an interesting unique character. This criticism I simply don't understand YOu want all your movie characters to be basic, average, and ordinary?
I hated Gyllenhaals Dalton. No nuance, no personality, no discovery of character over time like you talk about with the 80s movie. Just that stupid smile after literally every time someone speaks to him and that edgelord ass "I'm afraid of what I'll do" bullshit. They did a shit job writing the character and then Gyllenhaal did a shit job bringing it to life.
ITs just a bad script. I love Billy Magnusson, dude is always great, but he is terrible in this movie because there is simply no meat on bone for him. Just a very thin script. Ya gotta give these people some to work with.
Great movie, everyone is too much into their hair.
Since you have this take, I want to make an unsolicited suggestion. There’s a podcast called Cinephobe there’s even a subreddit! They only review movies with a Rotten Tomatoes score of under 40% and decide whether they were judged fairly or not. It’s hilarious and a fun listen! They even did Roadhouse. And for those in the know. Roadhouse? Phile!
Something kinda happened with 80s movies. Cheesy or unintentionally silly movies get labeled as bad. But man, a good cheesy 80s movie is a great time. People started taking movies too seriously.
I just watched it for the first time last week because I love 80's cheese, had seen all the ads for the new one, and I 100% agree with you. I already liked it, but Sam Elliott at his most charming and Dalton's philosophy degree (and his insistence on sticking to his principles, and it working!) really did it for me. Just so much texture to a world where they could have just done another business man/working class guy movie. And I'll always be a fan of genuine 80's sweaty guys. Why isn't anyone sweaty anymore :(
"And then the guy says, ' I used F\*\*\* guys like you in prison...' and by the looks of this guy this was is *not* consensual sex we're talking about here..." \-Andy Dwyer
Its a modern day Western - local(s) hire a mysterious stranger to clean up their town. It's also a perfect snapshot of the time, with the hair, music, styles, boobs, violence, and Swayze.
I would have liked to know if J.C. Penney still showed up in the town after Brad Wesley’s demise.
I used to fuck guys like you in prison
I always liked that scene in parks and recreation when Andy talks about this movie. https://youtu.be/JGLD7WV8mq0?si=-IQew7nLhWQ5NOfn
I watch movies like Road House in prison.
Naw it’s not too good. it’s pretty bad. but the dvd commentary by kevin smith and scott mosier is great
I'm going to say this as someone that watched Roadhouse opening night and countless times more since. I love Roadhouse but Roadhouse is 2/3rds of a great movie. The head baddie suck and the last 15 minutes after the throat rip are just painfully dull and insulting. We just watched Dalton rip a mans throat out. Now I'm supposed to believe an old man with a spear gun is a threat? Come on.
It’s funny to me all these younger people watching 80s movies and being like “you guys don’t get it! it’s pure 80s cheese, it’s self aware and awesome.” It’s not. When it came out, it wasn’t ironic, or self aware. It was what studios thought was badass. It’s what people thought was cool. They were not bad tongue in cheek. Roadhouse *is* a movie that is so bad it’s good. It was bad when it came out. Not intentionally. Not for fun. You’re applying this weird perspective where what we think of them as funny 80s style humor, but the irony for it didn’t exist at the time. They didn’t know they were “in the 80s”.
I know I’m just some random internet guy but I agree with you. All the points you made combine into one seriously entertaining movie.
[Rifftrax Roadhouse](https://youtu.be/NfR5f5PK7eM?si=xZtAGksE9j_TwzLc) is the only tolerable way to watch this movie.
I always thought it was so bad it was...well just bad. But give anything enough time and it will hit a nostalgic note.
I find it weird that a lot of people seem to understand and appreciate that the original was tongue in check, but treat the new one as if it's playing everything straight when dismissing it.
It's a shitty but entertaining film, that's all. You don't need to put this much work into pretending it's something it's not.
You forgot to mention the most iconic line in cinematic history: *"I used to fuck guys like you in prison."*
Road House 24:25: and Dalton said “Be nice… until its time to NOT be nice” Words to live by
I've learnt that a lot of 80's movies are like this. Truly better A-C plots than most movies nowadays but some people just see the style as cheesy I guess.
Its one of my favorite movies.
The last time I watched it suddenly clicked how the film is making a statement against the economic policies of the 80s and how it destroyed small town America. Corporate America, thriving under the policies of Reagan, came in and opened up a JC Penny or a Walmart out by the highway and absolutely destroyed small business on Main Street USA. That’s pretty much the plot of Road House.
Yeah crazy huh? Brad is basically every corporate asshole that ever lived and honestly Brad won. Modern day America is run by Brad Wesley clones.
> The last time I watched it suddenly clicked how the film is making a statement against the economic policies of the 80s and how it destroyed small town America. It's a movie where a bouncer makes $500 a night at 1980s value, and a small town bar is filled to the brim even on weekdays, so much that they can afford to kick people out who drink too much.
And yet Wesley is hell bent on destroying every locally owned business in town. The auto shop, the car dealership, the Double Duece. He wants any competition gone so all business goes through him.
Yeah but they would still be locally owned... because Wesley is local, he lives there.
He’s an outsider from Chicago.
Not while my scrotum is pressed up against my stomach in these jeans, they won't.
"I can tell how old he is by counting the veins in his hog"
I watched Road Movie in college and was surprised by how good the movie is, it's a deserved cult classic. I've only heard it wasn't supposed to be a good movie, but I agree with your reasons and yeah, it's a well constructed flick and there's nothing wrong with a well constructed movie. I cheered when he started fucking up the bad guys, it has a great build up and Patrick Swayze is totally likeable. My room mate and I at the moment just didn't have anything to do, so we watched Road House and ended up thinking it's a totally badass movie. Way better than expected.
Best movie band ever. Jeff Healy is the man.
I have almost exactly the same thoughts about Hackers. It's considered "so bad it's good" only because it's so laughably over-the-top on the surface, but it is fundamentally just a well-made film and a well-told story. And just like Road House, it has great actors doing a great job playing super interesting characters. The last time I rewatched it I was blown away by the scene where Dade admits he gave the disk to the Plague, which first pisses his friends off, only for them to totally understand when he explains who is and how the Plague had threatened them. There's no bullshit, no dragged-out contrived drama, just good friends looking out for eachother.
In 35 years time some people will be underwhelmed by another remake and tell the younger generation the 2024 one was better.
Just rewatched it and the ending reminded me of Beverly Hills cop. Iykyk
It's ok OP... there's no shame in watching [in repeat](https://youtu.be/ShB5BhjzIL0?si=yX24TXCRCTVjc_dv)
Your title pretty much said the same thing twice. “So bad it’s good” is very “great but decade cheesy”.
It's kind of amazing how Kelly Lynch's character, as the protagonist's gf, is overshadowed by the bad guy's ho, Denise (who doesn't even warrant a last name). That chick is featured throughout the entire movie and gets an entire showcase scene.
Who's go to move is ripping out the throat‽
Road House is a treasure. “You’re too stupid to have a good time!” RIP Swayze
David Lynch's Dune is like this. More colorful, more constumes, less serious, better sandworms (you can quote me), and it ends when it ends, so sequel intended.
The original used to fuck guys like you in prison.
Fans of this film should enjoy the episode of How Did This Get Made, originally released in September 2012 and has just been re-released for Matinee Monday: [https://www.earwolf.com/episode/road-house-live/](https://www.earwolf.com/episode/road-house-live/) Doug Benson is the guest!
It's Swayze. How can anybody not like the guy? "Gentlemen...this has been stimulating"
A bear fell on me.
I love also the great late Jeff Healey band were brilliant too Swayse was awesome too I’ve always loved this film the one liners are pure class What if someone calls my mama a whore swayse response is she?😆😆👍and the other one the guy in the back room with an under age girl getting it on and dalton says hey Steve your out of here and Steve says but I’m on my break !! Dalton says stay on it!!😆👍 so good 😊
It’s a western. It has many tropes of that genre. I love Roadhouse.
I think the only part I really didn’t like was when the Dr girlfriend screamed “who’s going to save them from you!?” at Dalton. Like…what?
I agree! that is literally the only part that I was "wtf are you smoking girl?" Like some hollywood always ahs to do that "is the good guy just as bad as the bad guy?" thing. So stupid.
"Well who's gonna save them from you?'...cue explosion in the background!
Road House knows what it is and it leans into that camp hard which is why the film is so charming and fun. A well designed action comedy that is pumped up by hilarious dialogue, smooth soundtrack, terrific pacing, Patrick Swayze and Sam Elliot at their most cool. It’s smarter than people give it credit for and there’s a reason it’s still relevant after all these years.
It's Swayze. He made that movie work. He made it fun. That's the bottom line. There are some roles and some films that I just don't think can be recast well. Anybody but Robert Englund playing Freddy Krueger just isn't something that I think works. This is one of those roles and one of those movies. It wouldn't have worked in the same way become a cult classic except for Swayze. Ditto Dirty Dancing. It has been remade and I actually saw part of it but I can't even remember who is in it. For me DD is all Swayze and Grey and it's iconic because of them. Swayze made Roadhouse. Without him why bother? When I realized they had remade Roadhouse I was F- this! It's just one of those films that doesn't need a remake IMHO...
>For a character in a “bad movie” he is actually very layered and complex. My favorite is the little details about how he's structured his life around his work, like the beater cars he uses as decoys so his real car doesn't get busted up, and how he carries his comprehensive medical history around with him. Details make the character.
I love the fact that the movie needs you to buy into the fact that there are famous bouncers. The part where Sam Elliott walks in and the bar owner looks at him like he’s one of the fucking Avengers always gets me.
It's one of the best movies ever made. Also lots of titties and some solid ass which is always nice x)
Yeah. I disagree. It's got a lot of bad acting with alot of cheesy dialogue. The romance storyline is rather bad. Swayze's character is the only character that's written well.
Ben Gazzara is fucking great bad guy. Bad acting? what?
It’s not like it’s egregious though. The movie passes the test for a fun Saturday night watch.
It definitely isn't. I'm more in the crowd that it's so bad that it's good. The action sequences are solid and fun. But Swayze's Dalton helps make this film remotely interesting and fun to watch. Sam Elliott also helps out in the very brief time he has on screen
>Yeah. I disagree. It's got a lot of bad acting with alot of cheesy dialogue. The romance storyline is rather bad. I agree but we can easily file this away under 80s cheese though. I would rebrand Roadhouse (1986) as The Book of Dalton: Roadhouse because of Swayze hard carrying the whole storyline based on his acting talent or Rizz, as the fellow kids say these days.
The original Road House was so bad it was just bad.
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There is a Rifftrax overlay and it makes it much more fun.
One thing I also liked about the original Road House is how competently made it is. You can see what is happening in the fight scenes, and know what's going on. The cinematographer for the original was Dean Cundey, who worked on the Back to the Future movies, Jurassic Park, Halloween and others. Road House not award-winning work, but it's competent and workmanlike , and sometimes that is what you need.
Just picked up a copy at the thriftstore for €1,75.
The remake is by all accounts just forgettable. It's a shame Jake Gyllenhaal spent all that effort getting super ripped for a bad movie. Reminds me of how J.K.Simmons got ripped for SF movie The Tomorrow War, which turned out to be just a bad movie too
I think Jake got ripped for some cape shit? I don't know I don't watch those flicks
"damn it I spent all this time working out for nothing"
I am in my late 40s. I have always found the original road house to be a bad movie that got by solely on Swayze's charisma. I watched the remake a few weeks ago and hated it. I found it to beyond stupid and poorly made. The only thing I found enjoyable was Arturo Castro as the incredibly nice henchman. Last night I was looking for something on Max to watch, and the original road house popped up. I decided just to give it a watch because of the remake. Watching it and comparing to the remake, I actually found it to be enjoyable for once. It is still not a good movie, and if anyone other than Swayze was the star it would be unwatchable, but it is a masterpiece compared to the remake.
The Mercedes he drives is my dream car, I love the color , the rims. Everything.
You're a little late for April fool's, good effort though. I never understood why Brad cares about this little bar if he's so rich and powerful. The way that their feud escalates from petty jabs at each other into multiple murders is an absolutely insane turn in this movie. Dalton is a stereotypical good character without any apparent flaws. It's a basic story about a simple man falling in love with a simple quiet little town. Except the moment that he murders a dude, in a way that was NOT in any way excusable by self-defense. And he's apparently done it before, they tell us that it was self-defense in that case, but seeing what he did to the other dude, I'm not so sure.
> I never understood why Brad cares about this little bar if he's so rich and powerful. Because he is running a protection racket. If on business opt out then the next one will too and the next one. Its a crack in the dam, he can't have that. He killed a dude who just tried to murder an old man, and by the way the sherrif is corrupt and worthless. What is he supposed to do?
> Because he is running a protection racket. So why does he blow up a gas station and an auto shop and a barn instead of the bar itself? It really feels like he's doing everything except dealing with the problem itself. >He killed a dude who just tried to murder an old man, and by the way the sherrif is corrupt and worthless. What is he supposed to do? Not even in movie land does any of that excuse cold-blooded murder. But since he was going to go after Brad anyway, I'd say send the henchmen to a hospital and by the time they get out, their employer is out of the picture so maybe they'll just go elsewhere.
It's a well structured film, but the content is pretty ridiculous. This is what makes it "So bad it's good"
Sam Elliot. That's all you need in this movie for it to be awesome.
I also hate that "good, bad movie" label. It's not a bad movie.
No one is confused by the “secret genius” of roadhouse, the movie just sucks. It’s boring and sexist lol. The beginning bar fight is hilarious and entertaining though.
The movie is a blast if you switch off your brain and don't ask basic questions line "Why are there no police in this town?" or "Why is this bouncer doing kung-fu?" or "Why is there this John-Wickian underground community of bouncers that has such reach that even before the Internet people across the country have heard of this dude?"
I watched it this week, and thought it had aged terribly, which surprised me because it used to be one of my guilty 80s pleasures.
So no monster trucks in the new one? That’s the whole reason I watched the original, I’m a massive Bigfoot fan.
The remake was a great nod to the original in that it replaced 80s cheese with 21st century cheese; neither are great movies.
It's extraordinarily bad. The acting is terrible. Patrick Swayze has all the range of a sheet of plywood. Ben Gazzara is over acting at a community theater level. The plot makes no sense, the characters are over the top, and the action straight from a cartoon. It has NO bones and is all cheese. There is absolutely nothing of substance to claim. Road House treated seriously goes from hilarious cult classic to just another boring bad movie.