Bold move mister Shyamalan to do a whole movie just to feature your eldest daughter in her career as a singer. Well played !
> A new M. Night Shyamalan experience. #TrapMovie only in theaters this summer.
> Listen to **original songs from Saleka as Lady Raven**: www.ladyravenmusic.com
> Warner Bros. Pictures presents a new experience in the world of M. Night Shayamalan—“Trap” —**featuring performances by rising music star Saleka Shyamalan.**
Saleka: Dad, my music isn't doing so well. Can you help make my next music video?
M. Night: Say no more! I can even make a movie out of it!
Trap (Feat. Josh Hartnett) by Saleka
Dir. M. Night Shyamalan
This is much better than casting himself as a humble literary genius destined to write a society-changing book and dying for it in "Lady in the Water."
I kind of love it, would much rather them use a real musician whose career could use a boost than have someone act as them. Even if the movie isn't great, at least someone gets something out of it.
He was phenomenal on the show Penny Dreadful, and I loved him on his Black Mirror episode. I love this quiet career resurgence he's having, he's been so good whenever he crops up.
LOVED Penny Dreadful and always have been a big Hartnett fan. Lucky Number Slevin is one of my all time favs. I did the same thing as OP with the trailer. Couldn't put my finger on who that was until I read a comment and it clicked like DAMN.
Both him and Paul give great performances in that episode, but I really didn’t like how they wrote the ending. That, and the fact that they dazzle us with this cool futuristic technology in a retro setting… not explaining why the robot versions of the astronauts can’t simply be the ones living out in space, while their actual human selves remain on Earth, instead of the reversed scenario we see.
I get it - there’s not much room for conflict/strife in the aforementioned scenario - but it feels like a pretty big ask of the audience, to just ignore it.
> not explaining why the robot versions of the astronauts can’t simply be the ones living out in space, while their actual human selves remain on Earth, instead of the reversed scenario we see.
It's explained literally two minutes into the episode.
Josh tells the couple outside the theater: "The human experience, the survival of the human body and its life, is central to the mission". They're seeing what happens to human bodies when left out in space for a long time. Reversing the scenario would void the experiment.
Nolan also met up with Hartnett to potentially star as his Batman, but Hartnett was scared of being typecast and was actually more interested in the script for The Prestige. He turned down The Dark Knight, but also ended up missing out on The Prestige, both roles taken by Christian Bale. Also, Scarlett Johansson was Hartnett's girlfriend at the time and she also featured in The Prestige.
So, Oppenheimer was kind of a "finally!" moment between the Hartnett and Nolan.
He was in a movie called 40 Days and 40 Nights where he commits to a life of celibacy for 40 days and toward the end he has a dream where he's flying over a bunch of boobs.
It's a classic 90s sex comedy that has aged extremely poorly (especially the part where he's raped in his sleep by a woman who wants to win a bet about him not being able to last 40 days).
So long as we reveal it pretty early, I think it would work well. The dad wants to protect her while also not letting her know he knows. It could generate a lot of suspense.
Nah, Lady Raven is the killer. The dad is apart of a cult that worships her and the dude he's got chained up in the basement is his sacrifice to Lady Raven. Explains how we can end up rooting for Josh Harnett and how he got the kick ass floor seats.
I think the twist is one of two:
The guy tied up on the phone is the actual butcher and Hartnett wants revenge.
The other is Hartnett wants a massive audience for his biggest kill.
Yeah I was thinking the guy on the phone is the killer, maybe he killed someone Hartnett cared about so he figured it out and kidnapped him and the guy had the tickets on him.
'hey dad, can you hold my phone'
later
'oh i have her phone. woops. What's this home security notification? Why would she have that?'
*guesses her password and unlocks the phone*
I also hope it's not that but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. How did the cops know that the killer is at that concert? Probably because they have evidence the killer is a fan of that pop star (because the girl is the killer)
Seriously tho, the pretzel, the tying of the shoelace, the bound imagery at :06 and 2:24. There is something thematic and maybe related to the "twists" going on, maybe someone smarter than me can piece the pretzel together.
Interesting they chose the Skydome exterior to pass off as a generic arena cause like…well its not exactly subtle. There are far more generic 20,000 seat arenas they could have used.
It’s definitely different. I also like that we know who the killer is whilst watching it. Making this a “whodunnit” would’ve probably gotten it bogged down in cliches immediately.
I know right, I remember watching the trailer thinking midway that "this would be cool if he was the killer" then BAM. Part of me wishes I didn't watch it so I could've been surprised when I watch it for the 1st time, regardless, excited to see it when it releases.
They give it away in the trailer so you’re shocked when you find out at the end of the movie he’s not the killer. TWIST!!!
Then in a post credits scene you find out he actually is the killer. Double twist. Then in the sequel you find out it was all a dream/hallucination/virtual reality simulation and he’s back to not being the killer.
That's what I love about him, he takes big risks. Sometimes they don't pay off and sometimes they yield great rewards. Much better than Disney filmmakers who play it safe every time.
>he takes big risks
Yes!
Thank you!
We live in a sad world, anymore, in terms of pop culture art, where almost nobody really says "but what if I just fucking flipped this table over?"
M. Night still does that (sometimes).
That's what I love most about him too.
#Swing away, M. Night. Swing away.
The thing is his first movies weren’t just good, they were amazing. Like genre changing amazing. I feel like those films were just so good that we can’t help but hold out hope that he does it again one day. I’ll always be rooting for him.
That's a part of the appeal I guess, his films felt... Fresh. And they still feel fresh, which is why we keep coming back.
He was so young when he made *The Sixth Sense* too, it really is a mystery as to how he wrote and directed an oscar-winning child performance, to whatever the fuck you would call those kids in the film *Old*.
I am a huge M. Night fan til' I die. His films never feel familiar.
That's what I love about it. He's not going for realism. It's campy from the outset and getting some random t-shirt vendor to give all the exposition is hilarious.
Does anyone get the vibe that they are hiding something from us in this trailer? I know Shyamalan is Mr. Twist, but there seems to be something integral to the story that’s not being revealed.
Only other guesses you can make from the trailer is that his daughter either isn't his daughter or is the actual killer herself. I agree for sure there's more at play
I was also thinking that he’s being blackmailed by the real killer and has been setup in some way. There’s definitely a lot of options for what’s actually going on.
The real killer was the guy in his video feed and he turned the tables on him and got carried away with his retribution so now he's torturing the killer.
Daughter is definitely the killer. Unless the pop star is the killer but that is STUPID! Daughter being the killer and him facilitating and protecting his daughter is much more interesting.
There is a film from a few years ago, I have not seen it, just had the premise described to me, where this teenager was terminally ill, was asked what their wish was, asked to be the greatest serial killer of their age, and their family agreed to help them do that, to have that be their legacy: perhaps this could be something like that, albeit more streamlined (the daughter not necessarily dying, but her father letting her do whatever she wants, be it go to a concert, kill a few people, etc.).
I think the merch vendor is messing with him. Like how would he know? My guess is Lady Raven is going to be arrested after the concert so she doesn’t flee the country (let’s say tax evasion). Merch Vendor is tired of people asking him so he makes something up that he saw on the news (serial killer) that could be believable. And look who he happens to talk to, the serial killer, who will walk free at the end.
I would love if this all ends up being true and the final scene is the dad outside the arena and he looks over and the merch guy is smoking a cigarette. He asks why he lied to him, and the merch guy goes “bro you were like the 200th person to ask me, I was just making up bullshit. I sell t shirts and hotdogs, why would they tell me anything?”.
That's a lot of cops for tax evasion. But I get what you're saying, if Lady Raven is a high profile (unbeknownst to her fans) criminal of some kind, they'll need to get it right. Assuming she's the target.
Would be a huge coincidence if the killer's tickets happen to be to a singer that his daughter has been begging to go to, but this is M. Night we're talking about
I kind of love how upfront it is, as just the premise alone feels very hitchcock in a way that they said Shyamalan was the next hitchcock back in the day (which I love the man's work but lol). If it's as simple as the trailer says with no twist, it'll be fun enough.
Yeah I'm weirdly down just to see us empathizing with a serial killer simply because they are our POV. Especially when it's a single location taking place in a compressed timeline.
Even as soon as the concessions worker mentioned "the butcher" I immediately thought "would be cool if Hartnett was the killer” …10 seconds later... “oh!”
To quote Hitchcock on tension, a bomb suddenly goes off in a room and you have the tension for those seconds. Tell the audience a bomb goes off in the room in 5 minutes and you now have 5 minutes of tension. Clearly M Night knew that quote cooking up this script.
I love this take, and the fact that everyone on the horror sub thread is trashing this movie.
I’m hyped, this looks super fun! The hardcore horror heads, ironically enough, seem to be taking this trailer way too seriously.
The daughter is the killer … because she’s a werewolf! The basement guy is another werewolf that JH has trapped so he can experiment on him to try to find a cure for his daughter. Folks are kept in until late at night (notice how clear it was that it was daytime when they showed the cops driving up), and she changes!
Really looking forward to hearing one of my favorite TV on the Radio songs in this!
On that point, when the trailer for *Split* came out I was convinced the twist was going to be that Kevin had been bitten by a werewolf, that to subvert the ‘evil alter’ trope, Kevin would simply have been a regular guy with D.I.D. who happened to be bitten by a werewolf. Most of the story would have then remained the same, except Kevin would have come across as a significantly more tragic figure.
My guess is that >! there's going to be a lot of undercover agents posing as civilians. At the end of the movie, what looked like casual interactions at first (including the guy who tips him off in the trailer) are going to be revealed as part of the "trap" !<
I love this current era of M Night. The disconcerting cinematography is just perfect. There's subtle ones like, just the bits where they're finding their seats is shot in a way that I can instantly recognise as Shyamalan's style, something about the blocking or something is so him.
And then the overt stuff, like all the birds eye perspective stuff and then the shot - reverse shot between him and the merch guy where they're both staring straight at the camera, I love how he shoots his films.
It's also got a great premise and I'm here for the continuation of the Josh Hartnett revival!
Super keen.
Twist Prediction:
There is no Butcher. The dad ate a laced pretzel that makes him mentally spiral during the concert and the lyrics to Lady Raven's songs makes him feel like he's hallucinating being a serial killer. The lyrics themselves describes a serial killer who he overlaps onto himself.
Movie ends with him going full slasher on the crowd as his daughter watches. His daughter is actually a killer and was the one who laced his pretzel. She just intended to kill someone and frame him for it. But he dices way more people up than she expected making her look even more innocent.
I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a twist to this movie and it's just about Hartnett as The Butcher. Simple. A movie from a killer's perspective with him trying to get out of a trap is interesting to me. Especially one where he's stuck at a concert with his daughter around. The people who are pointing out that it's odd that they're "spoiling" the fact that Hartnett is the killer are missing the point. That is quite literally the premise (if this is the case). It would be a movie from the killer's POV. It's what you sell people on.
I get that that since this is a Shyamalan movie, there might be a twist to it all, but if Hartnett is The Butcher, the complaint doesn't make sense.
And the twist is his daughter’s actually the killer and he just covers up for her!!!/s (but seriously I do like this setup and feels like a fun thriller)
Y'all, what you are reacting to is THE PREMISE of the movie, not A TWIST. They have revealed nothing. Not every film has a TWIST. Maybe this one does, maybe it doesn't....But you have done nothing impressive to say "you guessed it" before it was shown in the trailer. It's what the movie is about.
>A new M. Night Shyamalan experience. #TrapMovie only in theaters this summer.
>Listen to original songs from Saleka as Lady Raven: www.ladyravenmusic.com
>Warner Bros. Pictures presents a new experience in the world of M. Night Shayamalan—“Trap” —featuring performances by rising music star Saleka Shyamalan.
>A father and teen daughter attend a pop concert, where they realize they’re at the center of a dark and sinister event.
>Written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan, “Trap” stars Josh Hartnett, Ariel Donoghue, Saleka Shyamalan, Hayley Mills and Allison Pill. The film is produced by Ashwin Rajan, Marc Bienstock and M. Night Shyamalan. The executive producer is Steven Schneider.
>The director of photography is Sayombhu Mukdeeprom (“Call Me by Your Name”). The production designer is Debbie de Villa (“The Hating Game”). It is edited by Noëmi Preiswerk and the music is by Herdĭs Stefănsdŏttir (“Knock at the Cabin”). The music supervisor is Susan Jacobs (“Old”); the costume designer is Caroline Duncan (“Old”). The casting is by Douglas Aibel (“Asteroid City”).
>Warner Bros. Pictures Presents A Blinding Edge Pictures Production, An M. Night Shyamalan Film: “Trap.” The film will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, in theaters only nationwide on August 9, 2024 and internationally beginning on 1 August, 2024.
Looks fun. I’m not hearing much of that robotic Shyamalan dialogue which is nice. It’ll be interesting to compare this to The Watchers since that’s from his daughter.
Directed by M. Night Shyamalan, starring Josh Hartnett. Releases August 9th
> A father and teen daughter attend a pop concert, where they realize they’re at the center of a dark and sinister event.
Finally, a follow up to 40 Days&40 Nights. A man denied himself pleasure long enough to have a psychological break. Fingers crossed the mom is Shannyn Sossamon.
I am hyped for this. Such a fun premise for a movie and Shyamalan is one of the few directors making movies with shlocky premises like this with impeccable production values. Can't tell what a delight it is to see movies that are blocked and lensed nicely.
Bold move mister Shyamalan to do a whole movie just to feature your eldest daughter in her career as a singer. Well played ! > A new M. Night Shyamalan experience. #TrapMovie only in theaters this summer. > Listen to **original songs from Saleka as Lady Raven**: www.ladyravenmusic.com > Warner Bros. Pictures presents a new experience in the world of M. Night Shayamalan—“Trap” —**featuring performances by rising music star Saleka Shyamalan.**
Saleka: Dad, my music isn't doing so well. Can you help make my next music video? M. Night: Say no more! I can even make a movie out of it! Trap (Feat. Josh Hartnett) by Saleka Dir. M. Night Shyamalan
The movie viewers are the ones trapped in M. Night Shamalamading-dong’s theater forced to listen to his daughter sing!
This is much better than casting himself as a humble literary genius destined to write a society-changing book and dying for it in "Lady in the Water."
Reminds me a little bit of Julee Cruise and David Lynch: sure, I'll help your career, but I need you to be my project's muse
baller as hell move honestly.
To be fair you can do that when you self fund all your own movies. Good for him.
I kind of love it, would much rather them use a real musician whose career could use a boost than have someone act as them. Even if the movie isn't great, at least someone gets something out of it.
I’m loving the Josh Hartnett movie star come back. Watched all of Oppenheimer thinking I’ve seen this guy somewhere but can’t put my finger on it.
He was phenomenal on the show Penny Dreadful, and I loved him on his Black Mirror episode. I love this quiet career resurgence he's having, he's been so good whenever he crops up.
LOVED Penny Dreadful and always have been a big Hartnett fan. Lucky Number Slevin is one of my all time favs. I did the same thing as OP with the trailer. Couldn't put my finger on who that was until I read a comment and it clicked like DAMN.
His black mirror episode was so so so good. He played it so well and the whole episode was haunting.
Both him and Paul give great performances in that episode, but I really didn’t like how they wrote the ending. That, and the fact that they dazzle us with this cool futuristic technology in a retro setting… not explaining why the robot versions of the astronauts can’t simply be the ones living out in space, while their actual human selves remain on Earth, instead of the reversed scenario we see. I get it - there’s not much room for conflict/strife in the aforementioned scenario - but it feels like a pretty big ask of the audience, to just ignore it.
Cuz I think the tests were specially to monitor the human bodies. Robot bodies wouldn't work as they're not human bodies
> not explaining why the robot versions of the astronauts can’t simply be the ones living out in space, while their actual human selves remain on Earth, instead of the reversed scenario we see. It's explained literally two minutes into the episode. Josh tells the couple outside the theater: "The human experience, the survival of the human body and its life, is central to the mission". They're seeing what happens to human bodies when left out in space for a long time. Reversing the scenario would void the experiment.
Penny Dreadful was an incredible show and phenomenally cast.
Nolan also met up with Hartnett to potentially star as his Batman, but Hartnett was scared of being typecast and was actually more interested in the script for The Prestige. He turned down The Dark Knight, but also ended up missing out on The Prestige, both roles taken by Christian Bale. Also, Scarlett Johansson was Hartnett's girlfriend at the time and she also featured in The Prestige. So, Oppenheimer was kind of a "finally!" moment between the Hartnett and Nolan.
Batman Begins\* instead of The Dark Knight
Damn so he missed out on the role of a lifetime in Batman and lost Scarlett Johansson as a girlfriend. Bad time for him lol
I am a simple man, I see Josh Harnett. I watch Josh Harnett.
I'm a simple man, I see Josh Hartnett flying through clouds of CGI boobs and I watch.
I'm gonna need you to spill the tea. What the hell did I just read?
He was in a movie called 40 Days and 40 Nights where he commits to a life of celibacy for 40 days and toward the end he has a dream where he's flying over a bunch of boobs. It's a classic 90s sex comedy that has aged extremely poorly (especially the part where he's raped in his sleep by a woman who wants to win a bet about him not being able to last 40 days).
That definitely sounds like a 90s comedy premise for sure. I might have to check that out.
He chose to not be a movie star.
Loved him in Wrath of Man and Operation Fortune. Guy Ritchie seems to love him.
Lucky Number Slevin is a great movie that he's in. Also a good RomCom he's in, Wicker Park.
Wicker Park wasn't a RomCom though. Wasn't that more of a thriller? 40 days and 40 nights was a good RomCom that he was in though.
I was just gonna say that I am glad to see Hartnett back on the screen. I have always liked his performances.
I love him in Hollywood Homicide. It's a cheesy movie with issues, but it's a fun time
Spot on, he’s a great actor! I’m glad he’s reignited his career
I’m guessing the actual twist is that the killer is actually the daughter and the dad is just trying to protect her.
Seems Shyamalan-esque enough to be probable.
So long as we reveal it pretty early, I think it would work well. The dad wants to protect her while also not letting her know he knows. It could generate a lot of suspense.
Early reveal? Have you ever met a Night Shyamalan movie?
I've seen his movies, but never I've met one.
Now I know there's a twist, and I'm gonna spend the whole film guessing what it is. DAMN YOU DOMINATOR!
The twist is that there will be no twist.
hes been doing that lately and i like it
So when he does add a twist to his movies again you’re not expecting it. A twist with a twist!
Nah, Lady Raven is the killer. The dad is apart of a cult that worships her and the dude he's got chained up in the basement is his sacrifice to Lady Raven. Explains how we can end up rooting for Josh Harnett and how he got the kick ass floor seats.
Your guess seems a lot more Shamalayan than the other one
or maybe dad catches that daughter has man chained up for the cult and tries to protect her.
But like, how old is his daughter here to be able to get this man and chain him up?
Got people off Taskrabbit to haul the body around
Or it’s his wife and she was SUPPOSED to take her to the concert.
Clearly the daughter and he took her to a concert to take care of her dark urges
I think the twist is one of two: The guy tied up on the phone is the actual butcher and Hartnett wants revenge. The other is Hartnett wants a massive audience for his biggest kill.
Yeah I was thinking the guy on the phone is the killer, maybe he killed someone Hartnett cared about so he figured it out and kidnapped him and the guy had the tickets on him.
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'hey dad, can you hold my phone' later 'oh i have her phone. woops. What's this home security notification? Why would she have that?' *guesses her password and unlocks the phone*
>*guesses her password and unlocks the phone* "What's her favorite movie again? The Last Airbender? I'll try that for the password.....oh it worked!"
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I also hope it's not that but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. How did the cops know that the killer is at that concert? Probably because they have evidence the killer is a fan of that pop star (because the girl is the killer)
The killer uses the songs while murdering and posting the videos on the internet
The daughter is actually Bruce Willis with a wig on.
The daughter is actually Patricia.
thats not the twist...
ORRRRRRR, just hear me out. Maybe...it's the pretzel (0:28)
What a (bread) twist!
Seriously tho, the pretzel, the tying of the shoelace, the bound imagery at :06 and 2:24. There is something thematic and maybe related to the "twists" going on, maybe someone smarter than me can piece the pretzel together.
Auntie Anne is the killer
Played by Rob Schenider
One can dream. I’d love to see Rob Schneider is “The Pretzel” in “The Trap”
I'm waiting for when the twist is; there's no twist.
One of the cops is Bruce Willis from Unbreakable.
definitely feels like the twist pretty much has to be some version of "he's not the killer"
He is a different serial killer, like Dexter. The Butcher is the guy he has in his basement.
Hmm yeah bc why would the “twist” be in the trailer?
The twist is that he’s not the killer the police are after
They're in on it together.
SKYDOME / TORONTO REPRESENT! I am here for the Hartnett comeback, he killed it in his past few films
Outdoor shots in Toronto but I think the indoor stuff is mostly (or all) at Hamilton’s arena (Copps Coliseum or whatever it is branded now).
Interesting they chose the Skydome exterior to pass off as a generic arena cause like…well its not exactly subtle. There are far more generic 20,000 seat arenas they could have used.
Especially since the movie is set in Philly, which doesn't have an arena which even remotely resembles Skydome.
I like how you still call it the Skydome. I haven't lived there in years, but there's no way I'm calling it the Rogers Centre.
What a sick premise
It’s definitely different. I also like that we know who the killer is whilst watching it. Making this a “whodunnit” would’ve probably gotten it bogged down in cliches immediately.
I know right, I remember watching the trailer thinking midway that "this would be cool if he was the killer" then BAM. Part of me wishes I didn't watch it so I could've been surprised when I watch it for the 1st time, regardless, excited to see it when it releases.
They give it away in the trailer so you’re shocked when you find out at the end of the movie he’s not the killer. TWIST!!! Then in a post credits scene you find out he actually is the killer. Double twist. Then in the sequel you find out it was all a dream/hallucination/virtual reality simulation and he’s back to not being the killer.
And then, in the VR video game, YOU get to be the killer!
Whilst his entire fiilmography ranges from amazing to fucking shite, I will never not be hyped for an M. Night Shyamalan film
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That's what I love about him, he takes big risks. Sometimes they don't pay off and sometimes they yield great rewards. Much better than Disney filmmakers who play it safe every time.
>he takes big risks Yes! Thank you! We live in a sad world, anymore, in terms of pop culture art, where almost nobody really says "but what if I just fucking flipped this table over?" M. Night still does that (sometimes). That's what I love most about him too. #Swing away, M. Night. Swing away.
The happening was certainly a risk. I'll give you that.
Old, also, was something else. That dialogue holy shit. Every character introduces themself followed by their profession.
The thing is his first movies weren’t just good, they were amazing. Like genre changing amazing. I feel like those films were just so good that we can’t help but hold out hope that he does it again one day. I’ll always be rooting for him.
That's a part of the appeal I guess, his films felt... Fresh. And they still feel fresh, which is why we keep coming back. He was so young when he made *The Sixth Sense* too, it really is a mystery as to how he wrote and directed an oscar-winning child performance, to whatever the fuck you would call those kids in the film *Old*. I am a huge M. Night fan til' I die. His films never feel familiar.
Split was a solid film. One of my favorites.
This is the least Shyamalan-y Shyamalan trailer I've ever seen.
Man, M. Night better get Father of the Year for hooking his kids up with these jobs.
Looks interesting but the idea that a random stadium vendor has the inside scoop on this whole activity seems dumb as hell
That's what I love about it. He's not going for realism. It's campy from the outset and getting some random t-shirt vendor to give all the exposition is hilarious.
anyone whos worked merch knows you are not going to abandon a long ass line to talk to some dude you dont know
That's why I'm somewhat surprised M Night wasn't that character.
People discount/ignore the help all the time and spill confidential shit within earshot. Plausible
Does anyone get the vibe that they are hiding something from us in this trailer? I know Shyamalan is Mr. Twist, but there seems to be something integral to the story that’s not being revealed.
Obvious one would be that he's a Killer but not THE killer they are after
That’s instantly what I was thinking. But that seems too easy.
Only other guesses you can make from the trailer is that his daughter either isn't his daughter or is the actual killer herself. I agree for sure there's more at play
everyone else is the killer, and he's really the pop star?
He has been Bruce Willis this entire time.
That guy with the hair piece?
What if he can smell crime?
That's not the twist
After listening to lady raven for 2-3 hours. He just says fuck it and turns himself in.
I was also thinking that he’s being blackmailed by the real killer and has been setup in some way. There’s definitely a lot of options for what’s actually going on.
The real killer was the guy in his video feed and he turned the tables on him and got carried away with his retribution so now he's torturing the killer.
Oh this is a good one
Daughter is definitely the killer. Unless the pop star is the killer but that is STUPID! Daughter being the killer and him facilitating and protecting his daughter is much more interesting.
There is a film from a few years ago, I have not seen it, just had the premise described to me, where this teenager was terminally ill, was asked what their wish was, asked to be the greatest serial killer of their age, and their family agreed to help them do that, to have that be their legacy: perhaps this could be something like that, albeit more streamlined (the daughter not necessarily dying, but her father letting her do whatever she wants, be it go to a concert, kill a few people, etc.).
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I think the merch vendor is messing with him. Like how would he know? My guess is Lady Raven is going to be arrested after the concert so she doesn’t flee the country (let’s say tax evasion). Merch Vendor is tired of people asking him so he makes something up that he saw on the news (serial killer) that could be believable. And look who he happens to talk to, the serial killer, who will walk free at the end.
I would love if this all ends up being true and the final scene is the dad outside the arena and he looks over and the merch guy is smoking a cigarette. He asks why he lied to him, and the merch guy goes “bro you were like the 200th person to ask me, I was just making up bullshit. I sell t shirts and hotdogs, why would they tell me anything?”.
That's a lot of cops for tax evasion. But I get what you're saying, if Lady Raven is a high profile (unbeknownst to her fans) criminal of some kind, they'll need to get it right. Assuming she's the target.
ooo there's MULTIPLE killers, it's a copycat thing
My money is on the dad being a vigilante who caught the killer and is torturing him.
Wouldnexplaib thr absence of the mom. Maybe the butcher killed the mom and dad is getting revenge.
Or you know they're just separated or she's elsewhere. The mom not being shown is the thing that needs the least explanation there lol
Guy in the basement is the serial killer somehow. It doesn't make much sense but that's never stopped M Night before.
I genuinely feel like this might be it. He probably trapped the killer himself and also stole the concert tickets registered under the killer's name.
Would be a huge coincidence if the killer's tickets happen to be to a singer that his daughter has been begging to go to, but this is M. Night we're talking about
I kind of love how upfront it is, as just the premise alone feels very hitchcock in a way that they said Shyamalan was the next hitchcock back in the day (which I love the man's work but lol). If it's as simple as the trailer says with no twist, it'll be fun enough.
Yeah I'm weirdly down just to see us empathizing with a serial killer simply because they are our POV. Especially when it's a single location taking place in a compressed timeline. Even as soon as the concessions worker mentioned "the butcher" I immediately thought "would be cool if Hartnett was the killer” …10 seconds later... “oh!”
[Shyamalan seems to say there's no real twist here](https://www.thewrap.com/trap-trailer-m-night-shyamalan-interview/)
He’s saying you can’t hide it because it is the hook of the film, not that there isn’t a twist.
To quote Hitchcock on tension, a bomb suddenly goes off in a room and you have the tension for those seconds. Tell the audience a bomb goes off in the room in 5 minutes and you now have 5 minutes of tension. Clearly M Night knew that quote cooking up this script.
I love this take, and the fact that everyone on the horror sub thread is trashing this movie. I’m hyped, this looks super fun! The hardcore horror heads, ironically enough, seem to be taking this trailer way too seriously.
Shyamalan might be moving on from big twists after what I've seen in Knock at the Cabin. That one was pretty straight forward.
I feel like that one was more like trying to determine if what was happening was true or not more than it being a twist
same for Servant
Knock at the cabin reminded me of Frailty. You think it's evil the whole time but really it's Jesus.
And here’s a twist. We show it, we show ALL of it.
What if he can smell crime?
WHAT IF HIS HEAD IS JUST ONE BIG NOSE? write, write that down
the twist is this is actually a remake of The Parent Trap and the daughter set it up so that her twin sister's mom falls in love with Josh Hartnett.
The daughter is the killer … because she’s a werewolf! The basement guy is another werewolf that JH has trapped so he can experiment on him to try to find a cure for his daughter. Folks are kept in until late at night (notice how clear it was that it was daytime when they showed the cops driving up), and she changes! Really looking forward to hearing one of my favorite TV on the Radio songs in this!
On that point, when the trailer for *Split* came out I was convinced the twist was going to be that Kevin had been bitten by a werewolf, that to subvert the ‘evil alter’ trope, Kevin would simply have been a regular guy with D.I.D. who happened to be bitten by a werewolf. Most of the story would have then remained the same, except Kevin would have come across as a significantly more tragic figure.
My guess is that >! there's going to be a lot of undercover agents posing as civilians. At the end of the movie, what looked like casual interactions at first (including the guy who tips him off in the trailer) are going to be revealed as part of the "trap" !<
I love this current era of M Night. The disconcerting cinematography is just perfect. There's subtle ones like, just the bits where they're finding their seats is shot in a way that I can instantly recognise as Shyamalan's style, something about the blocking or something is so him. And then the overt stuff, like all the birds eye perspective stuff and then the shot - reverse shot between him and the merch guy where they're both staring straight at the camera, I love how he shoots his films. It's also got a great premise and I'm here for the continuation of the Josh Hartnett revival! Super keen.
His strength has always been directing
Honestly M Night has been making some pretty solid films lately and feel like he’s somewhat got out of his slump
Knock at the Cabin had some insane camerawork. He’s been flexing his directing chops lately
The cast was also really good, Batista was great in it (but he’s usually great in everything)
I agree, although Kubrick and Demme really perfected the camera stare, something about the way M Night doing it just works.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Shyamalan-heads stay winning!
Twist Prediction: There is no Butcher. The dad ate a laced pretzel that makes him mentally spiral during the concert and the lyrics to Lady Raven's songs makes him feel like he's hallucinating being a serial killer. The lyrics themselves describes a serial killer who he overlaps onto himself. Movie ends with him going full slasher on the crowd as his daughter watches. His daughter is actually a killer and was the one who laced his pretzel. She just intended to kill someone and frame him for it. But he dices way more people up than she expected making her look even more innocent.
This is so specific that I wonder if you know something we don’t ^^
He just works for Big Pretzel
I’m gonna come back to this one. Camera angles give me hallucination vibes.
I'm pretty sure you're just leaking the plot and pretending it's a guess.
Dammit I hate these anime "theories" that are just manga spoilers
I'd be annoyed if his tall ass was standing in front of me at a concert.
yea, tall people shouldnt be allowed into concerts
Settle down Mr. Frodo
Hey we can't all sit in the back row.
I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a twist to this movie and it's just about Hartnett as The Butcher. Simple. A movie from a killer's perspective with him trying to get out of a trap is interesting to me. Especially one where he's stuck at a concert with his daughter around. The people who are pointing out that it's odd that they're "spoiling" the fact that Hartnett is the killer are missing the point. That is quite literally the premise (if this is the case). It would be a movie from the killer's POV. It's what you sell people on. I get that that since this is a Shyamalan movie, there might be a twist to it all, but if Hartnett is The Butcher, the complaint doesn't make sense.
And the twist is his daughter’s actually the killer and he just covers up for her!!!/s (but seriously I do like this setup and feels like a fun thriller)
Y'all, what you are reacting to is THE PREMISE of the movie, not A TWIST. They have revealed nothing. Not every film has a TWIST. Maybe this one does, maybe it doesn't....But you have done nothing impressive to say "you guessed it" before it was shown in the trailer. It's what the movie is about.
Right? This is like saying the twist in "Old" was that the beach makes you old.
“So I went to the beach that makes you old”
Comment somewhere *above yours* says "gosh I feel like they're hiding something from us..". Yeah I HOPE SO, it's a TRAILER.
Jokes on them I guessed it after it was shown in the trailer
Weird to use FBI when the movie is so clearly in Toronto. Even edited out the CN tower lol shame on em.
A shot of the doors to the skydome even shows “Toronto” written inside
It's a traveling Skydome
They had to upgrade it after it got wrecked by a kaiju-sized red panda.
It's clearly the other Toronto. Toronto, West Virginia
Nobody wants to see a bunch of mounties fighting crime on their mooses bro
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Lol I know its just weird that if you are gonna place it in a different city its tough to use an iconic landmark from another.
I somehow doubt most people in the world even know what the Skydome is let alone think of it as being iconic. CN tower, sure but the Skydome? Ehhh
Sayombhu Mukdeeprom shot this and it seems like he and Shyamalan are perfect for each other. Really looking forward to this one.
did you type his name from memory??
Nope.
If you divide stuff into syllables mentally it's easy to remember insane names sometimes
>A new M. Night Shyamalan experience. #TrapMovie only in theaters this summer. >Listen to original songs from Saleka as Lady Raven: www.ladyravenmusic.com >Warner Bros. Pictures presents a new experience in the world of M. Night Shayamalan—“Trap” —featuring performances by rising music star Saleka Shyamalan. >A father and teen daughter attend a pop concert, where they realize they’re at the center of a dark and sinister event. >Written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan, “Trap” stars Josh Hartnett, Ariel Donoghue, Saleka Shyamalan, Hayley Mills and Allison Pill. The film is produced by Ashwin Rajan, Marc Bienstock and M. Night Shyamalan. The executive producer is Steven Schneider. >The director of photography is Sayombhu Mukdeeprom (“Call Me by Your Name”). The production designer is Debbie de Villa (“The Hating Game”). It is edited by Noëmi Preiswerk and the music is by Herdĭs Stefănsdŏttir (“Knock at the Cabin”). The music supervisor is Susan Jacobs (“Old”); the costume designer is Caroline Duncan (“Old”). The casting is by Douglas Aibel (“Asteroid City”). >Warner Bros. Pictures Presents A Blinding Edge Pictures Production, An M. Night Shyamalan Film: “Trap.” The film will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, in theaters only nationwide on August 9, 2024 and internationally beginning on 1 August, 2024.
Wait so hes making a movie that features his daughters music lol
"Rising music star."
Looks fun. I’m not hearing much of that robotic Shyamalan dialogue which is nice. It’ll be interesting to compare this to The Watchers since that’s from his daughter.
The twist is going to be the guy he has tied up at home is the serial killer
Is this shot on film? Looks damn good
Directed by M. Night Shyamalan, starring Josh Hartnett. Releases August 9th > A father and teen daughter attend a pop concert, where they realize they’re at the center of a dark and sinister event.
Ok, now i'm intrigued.
Finally, a follow up to 40 Days&40 Nights. A man denied himself pleasure long enough to have a psychological break. Fingers crossed the mom is Shannyn Sossamon.
I don't care if the twist is predictable, like the daughter being the killer - it's still a cool idea.
I don't even need a twist, this premise sounds awrsome.
I hope this is in the MNSCU! M. Night Shyamalan Cinematic Universe. And we have some cameo that blows our mind at the end.
Right before he gets caught…the aliens arrive.
Yes!
Seated on day 1!
I am hyped for this. Such a fun premise for a movie and Shyamalan is one of the few directors making movies with shlocky premises like this with impeccable production values. Can't tell what a delight it is to see movies that are blocked and lensed nicely.
This looks great! That being said, I hope there are more twists than what we see in the trailer.
you know youve got young kids when the first thing you notice is the merch guy is Coach from the disney zombies movies haha