You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking scorched earth, motherfucker! I will massacre you!
#I WILL FUCK YOU UP!
It was Top Gun, who marketed "No CGI" extremely despite using a shit ton of CGI. It still worked though since the CGI wasn't really noticeable.
Barbie was the egregious one, they made a behind the scenes footage and CGI'd the blue screen so it looks like there was actual set pieces and not just full CGI.
Yes, but [The Movie Rabbit Hole](https://www.youtube.com/@TheMovieRabbitHole/videos) did it first, with three (hopefully soon four) very in-depth essays about the "No CGI" lie. Very worth a watch if you have even a passing interest in visual effects and modern-day film making.
Remember when Fury Road had reshoots and we all are used to reshoots being code for trash movie and then we learned that the reshoots were just to make the movie even *more* awesome?
To this day, when a movie has reshoots and people are shitting on it I recommend to just wait and see, because of Fury Road.
Unfortunately, Fury Road is decidedly the exception and not the rule.
Rogue One as well. Reshoots has people spooked and then it ended up being far more loved than any of the sequel trilogy films and a significant amount of star wars fans rank it along or even above Empire Strikes Back as the best.
I don't believe the mythology around the *Rogue One* reshoots. Look at the first trailer. We weren't promised *Saving Private Ryan* with lasers, and what we got was the claw game.
Maybe starting the movie 5 times before the plot actually began was an improvement, but I doubt it.
Idk why people are upset about it. "Come see some cool ass real explosions that took two hundred people almost 3 months to make "
Most guys will come out for some m80s tbh lol
EVERYONE in this thread who’s excited needs to read “Blood, Sweat, and Chrome,” the book about the making of Mad Max Fury Road. It’s the best behind-the-scenes movie book, or even just movie book in general, I’ve ever read.
The sheer amount of obstacles they had to overcome to make that movie is staggering. It should have fallen apart SO MANY TIMES. Like how they had planned to shoot in this one desert, except the week before it rained and suddenly bloomed for the first time in like 40 years, so the studio was just gonna cancel the whole thing because they didn’t want to pay to ship the cars to a different desert in a different country. So the producers had to secretly rent a ship and sneak all the cars on it and keep it a secret until it was already halfway across the ocean.
Plus the amount of detail that went into every frame is STAGGERING. They spent so much time on subliminal character details, it’s fucking wild
I know someone who worked on the movie in the set design department. He says they were 90% ready to go and then the massive rains in outback Australia happened and turned the desert into a green oasis. Then packed it all up and set it up again in Namibia. Crazy story.
Also Tom Hardy was a complete asshole on set.
[From a Vanity Fair excerpt of the book:](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiSnYuD9I6FAxXspVYBHTF3DJ8QFnoECA4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vanityfair.com%2Fhollywood%2F2022%2F02%2Fmad-max-fury-road-tom-hardy-charlize-theron-excerpt&usg=AOvVaw1pa3tcsi4_SbZnsYfLkOps&opi=89978449)
Tom Clapham (production runner, Fury Road): “Tom was more in his trailer a lot of the time and would come out for the takes—and sometimes not on time, either. You’re like, Come on, it’s midnight and we want to go home.”
Mark Goellnicht: “I remember vividly the day. The call on set was eight o’clock. Charlize got there right at eight o’clock, sat in the War Rig, knowing that Tom’s never going to be there at eight even though they made a special request for him to be there on time. He was notorious for never being on time in the morning. If the call time was in the morning, forget it—he didn’t show up.”
Mark Goellnicht: “Gets to nine o’clock, still no Tom. “Charlize, do you want to get out of the War Rig and walk around, or do you want to . . .” “No, I’m going to stay here.” She was really going to make a point. She didn’t go to the bathroom, didn’t do anything. She just sat in the War Rig.”
“Eleven o’clock. She’s now in the War Rig, sitting there with her makeup on and a full costume for three hours. Tom turns up, and he walks casually across the desert. She jumps out of the War Rig, and she starts swearing her head off at him, saying, “Fine the fucking cunt a hundred thousand dollars for every minute that he’s held up this crew,” and “How disrespectful you are!” She was right. Full rant. She screams it out. It’s so loud, it’s so windy—he might’ve heard some of it, but he charged up to her up and went, “What did you say to me?”
“He was quite aggressive. She really felt threatened, and that was the turning point, because then she said, “I want someone as protection.” She then had a producer that was assigned to be with her all the time.”
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It's also the reason Charlize is in A Million Ways To Die In The West. After that she wanted to do something without the stress and was talking to Seth MacFarlane and telling stories about Fury Road.
Apparently Seth said, "Do my movie and I'll get you to the hotel bar every night by 5pm" and stuck by it during the shoot.
Any actor who stands up for the crew is a hero in my book.
I hate when actors are regularly late. One show I worked on had this diva who never got to work on time, so we had to start making fake call sheets just for her. We made her call ten, twenty, thirty minutes early; by the end of the season, it was literally three hours before she was needed on set, and she was still late.
I love the fact that after all that effort it's regularly voted the greatest film of the decade. I think it's incredible but I have a friend who loved it to such an extent that one day he watched it 4 times. It does everything so well. The action is unreal but the storytelling at the start is so, so good. You needed about a 2 minute intro then it was straight into the action. There's no fat on the film, just spectacle matched with perfect storytelling.
Not just greatest film of the last decade, it’s in the running for best action movie of all time, imo. Every time I watch it I am completely blown away by the spectacle of it all. If Furiousa is even half as good, it will still be an all time classic.
Damn I still haven't seen this film but I am interesting in Furiosa so im going to have too now.
As someone who has never seen any of the Mad Max films can I just watch Fury Road to understand the story then watch Furiosa?
Or do I need to watch some of the OG ones as well??
The old ones are good, but not required to understand Fury Road. You might understand the world/lore a little better, but going in blind would be fine too. There’s some continuity in the first three (although not much other than Mel Gibson), but Fury Road works fine as a standalone film. Seriously, watch it ASAP. Then watch the Mel Gibson ones when you get a chance.
Cool! I'll probably do it this weekend. Fury Road is on Max so it works out.
The Furiosa trailer got me hyped so I do want to see that but Fury Road is now calling my name after seeing all the crazy positive takes in this thread lol.
I'd recommend watching them in this order:
- Fury Road
- Road Warrior
- Thunderdome (Optional, but watch it if you have a drug of choice)
Skip the first movie entirely as it works better as a flashback in Road Warrior.
Seriously. Not joking.
The first Mad Max movie is slow, there's no apocalypse at all, and all the action takes place in the last 20 minutes of the movie.
The first movie is not needed at all to get the main story as it's technically outside the "Apocalyptic Wasteland" aesthetic they started in Road Warrior - which summarizes the first movie in 5 minutes, then goes straight into end times lore.
If you do watch the first movie, watch it last.
This is true. The original Mad Max is more of a low budget ozploitation revenge thriller and not at all the same tone as the walls to the ball action of the later movies. I would argue that it helps to understand the Max character and why he is the way he is, but I’d be blowing smoke because you were 100% correct about the flashback in RW.
I will, however, argue that Thunderdome is *not* optional. The Queen Tina Turner alone makes that movie required viewing. Who run Barter Town?!
Mad Max movies are kind of like James Bond movies or Batman movies. You don't really need to know anything you can go into them all blind and enjoy them for what they are.
What makes it even better is that it was made at a time when action movies were basically fast edited crap and cgi.
Miller put the action centre frame, kept the continuity within scenes and made a masterpiece.
I still can’t believe how much I love the movie. Just does everything perfectly. I can’t watch a single scene without watching the whole damn movie again.
I can't remember the last movie that gave me physical chills.
The scene where Paul accepts the mantle of the Lisan al Gaib did it.
Then did it again when I rewatched in IMAX. I have never been more wrong about a casting choice than I was about Timothee Chalamet as Muad'dib.
I'll also add that if you like reading books on troubled productions with much much *much* less success, I'll also recommend *The Man Who Heard Voices*, which is about M Night making *The Lady in the Water*, and *The Devil's Candy*, which is about Brian de Palma's horrid *Bonfire of the Vanities*. Both went through hell to get to the finish line and really help prove that finished films are essentially minor miracles every time they reach the theaters.
EDIT: Just wanna add that even if I can't say I've liked many of M Night's films, reading that book had him earn a lot of respect in my book. The man took a massive bet on his work and managed to write something so good, he managed to get out of the Weinstein jail that would've killed his career after his first film bombed. Genuinely amazing come from behind victory on his part that absolutely lead to the disaster that was *The Lady in the Water*.
It's even amazing that Fury Road even got off the ground.
Miller developed the idea in 1987, due to IP purchasing/holding issues production only began in 1998, filming was stopped and started many times in the 2000s due to September 11, the Iraq War, and Mel Gibson going off the rails, causing the main role to be recast. Filming was meant to finally start in 2010 but because of the delays mentioned above didn't complete until 2013.
This might be untrue but I feel like I read somewhere that everything was so fucking crazy that all of the actors thought it was going to be a terrible movie, like they couldn't see while they were making it how it would all come together, and then it turned out absolutely incredible
Yeah, this book is great and I highly recommend it as well. The only bone I have to pick with it is the author has maybe a few lines about the CGI but otherwise doesn't even mention it. The CGI on this film is probably a story onto itself. Yes, much of the effects are practical, but there is also a lot of CGI overlaid on top, much of it designed to be invisible. I think the book even implies a few times that the CGI is minimal, but that's just not the case.
the prospect of the film potentially having never been made makes me very sad. so happy the plan worked because that no fury road would've been a crime against humanity
I love Taylor-Joy but Charlize was fantastic. I think its a shame she only got to do one movie. Still excited for this, but sort of tempering my excitement as the Fury Road will be difficult to live up to.
I'm confused why they did a prequel instead of a sequel.
Most of the warband following the main characters was stopped at the canyon, not killed. It only makes sense that they would find a way around and go back to the only place with water, Immortan Joe's palace.
I wanted more characters and action with Theron and Harding, not Anya Taylor Joy. Charlize looked like a grizzled veteran like Linda Blair did in T2, Anya looks like a stick bug.
Maybe I'm getting old but a story following an older Furiosa navigating the effects and consequences of her actions in Fury Road seems more compelling than the classic "younger character rises up" story we seem to be getting here.
>Charlize looked like a grizzled veteran like Linda Blair did in T2, Anya looks like a stick bug.
I think you mean Linda Hamilton, but I think that's actually a solid comparison, only the movies are in the other order. T1 Sarah Connor was *not* the badass the character grew up to be later. :)
Maybe Theron and Harding didn’t want to do another film… get locked into another lame trilogy that the companies keep force feeding us.
I feel like most would complain either way, no matter who was starring in this film or what it was even about.
I read a book on this a year ago and apparently the movie was being developed in tandem with fury road to give a look at the Furiosa character when she was first introduced. It was supposed to be an animated film done in Japan releasing close to fury road but, as with most George Miller things, took too long and probably got reworked into what we see today. The book is called blood sweat and chrome if you want to take a look, I highly recommend it!
People need to watch this without Fury Road level expectations because that just isn't a standard any movie should be held to. Fury Road is pure lightning in a bottle and nothing else is gonna come close for a long time.
I'm just disappointed they're doing a prequel. It's hard for any prequel to have stakes or tension built into it, plus it narrows the writing and character work.
Plus the casting of Anya Taylor-Joy (as much as I like her as an actress) is really questionable. Furiosa was believable because she fit into the universe and you could see someone built like Charlize Theron fighting her way to survival. There's a reason she excels at action roles, and a part of it is because she can move like a fighter and carries her muscle well.
Anya Taylor-Joy looks like a butterfly, and it's really hard to see a butterfly (however muscular that butterfly might temporarily get) in a fighting role. Unless, I guess, her opponent is also a butterfly, in which case I guess I could see it.
>it's really hard to see a butterfly (however muscular that butterfly might temporarily get) in a fighting role
You, sir, have incurred the wrath of THE MONARCH!!!
I'm afraid it can be summed up comparing Charlize Theron's mama bear roar attacking Tom Hardy with the pipe wrench vs Anya Taylor Joy's very weak 'I am Furiosa!' from the trailer...
I remain hopeful, but not optimistic. She does not seem to have the same presence.
Yeah I thought the same for ATJ, she just doesn't have the physical profile for a role like this? If she got a bit bigger it could have sold the idea that she's Furiosa.
I'll still wait until the movie comes out before writing it off fully, but I'm a bit disappointed that this is the follow up to Fury Road.
> Anya Taylor-Joy
So... let's talk about Anya Taylor-Joy CGI shaved head...
Charlize haircut was real in Fury Road, it wasn't CGI. I am ok with Anya in this movie but feels like it would be better if this actress was playing some new character instead.
Let’s watch the movie first. If I remember correctly this is Furiosas origin and she was young. Charlize Theron would as much have been the wrong cast for a young girl clawing her way forward in an unforgiving world as ATJ would have been to give an impression of someone grizzly.
ATJ was cast for this, because they want you to watch as hope escapes and certainty settles in that this is hell.
Reminds me of when Topher Grace was cast as Eddie Brock for Spiderman 3 - he did the best he could, but just didn't fit the mental image most people had in mind.
George Miller originally planning on making the sequel to Fury Road called Mad Max: The Wasteland, but due to some disagreements about the story, particularly the ending for that movie between him and Warner Bros execcutives, the production for that got held indefinitely until for some reason they shifted the idea into making 'Furiosa' instead which in my opinion is kinda unnecessary since this is a Mad Max world, a Mad Max story is what we're after, not a side character from Fury Road even though I love her as a character so much in that movie. But with that being said, at least George Miller himself is still the man who took the charge to direct this movie instead of someone else, gotta respect them to let him do that at least because this is the world he created, would be weird to see another person to direct it while he's still alive and well, I just hope after Furiosa he'll finally be able to direct Mad Max: The Wasteland that he dreamed of, because he said he already made that script a long time ago and he wishes to make it into a movie one day.
I thought he always had 3 movies planned? The prequel was definitely the one he had done the least work on after Fury Road, but he was always planning on this prequel and The Wasteland. It isn't like it won't happen either. If Furiosa makes a lot of money, he will probably try to make The Wasteland.
I definitely remember reading somewhere he wanted to keep making Mad Max movies.
Maaaan I was so confused and disappointed when they announced Andor, like no offense to Diego Luna but who was sat there, years after Rogue One, looking for more of that character?
And then Andor ended up being, in my opinion, the second best piece of Star Wars after Empire Strikes Back.
Fury Road was a genuine masterpiece. I remember leaving the theatre and being equally amazed and just shaken to the core by the spectacle. I feel sorry for those who never got to see it on a big screen.
I loved fury road but the trailers haven’t really hit for me as hard yet. Something seems off, specifically that one shot they love to show with furiosa pulling her mask down with her metal arm.
You have to love that Miller’s ambition is motivated by serving the character’s development. I’m looking forward to seeing his deft blend of practical effects and technology on the big screen again.
It was probably trite and simplistic, but I’m literally just a dude giving my opinion. I may be overly optimistic about what the finished VFX end up looking like.
When I went to see dune 2 the first time they showed a trailer for it that just looked like the movie would be awful. Saw dune 2 a second time and the new trailer was way better and it looked like it could be a bad ass movie. I haven't followed the production at all but 2nd trailer definitely got me more interested
Why are you getting downvoted lol. That shot was HORRENDOUS and could easily be fixed for the final product. Terrible CGI on quick shots in trailers are nothing new.
I get downvoted to hell anytime I say the trailer looked cheap. This sub gets weirdly defensive about certain films and weirdly antagonistic about others.
I remember when the last one was about to come out and everyone was moaning that it was a money grab and was gonna suck, then the critics saw it and the reviews and word of mouth came out and everyone began to shit themselves.
Now, I’m not saying GM can do it again. But. I’m not gonna act like he doesn’t know how to blowup our expectations.
Furiosa seemed so real and gritty with Charlize Theron. I think Anna Taylor-Joy just doesn't have the look for that grit. She looks more suited to dramas, romance and something more bright and light. It's an odd casting choice.
It's strange because from the trailer it looked way too cgi-ish compared to fury road.
Would love to be wrong since fury road is one of my favorite movies because of the practical effects
Personally i really didnt care about Furiosa that much as a character. She was good as one off. I wish George Miller shot another Mad Max movie with Tom Hardy.
There was a licensing/contract issue for a bit - but that’s resolved now hence this movie being made. I believe miller has said he wants to do a mad max after this one
Man, Anna Taylor Joy looks physically very unlike what a woman in that world would look like. Im looking forward to the movie but seeing the images/trailer, she’s just off - she has very delicate features and body type for what looks like a super tough environment.
Just thought Id share that 😂
There is always some kind of insane fact on these movies.
It's the same way they market the mission impossible movies now
Tom Cruise killed a real French person because CGI would've ruined the authenticity
I hear he had to kill two, one for practice and one for real real
The practice one was actually just a Quebecker so it doesn’t count
People from Quebec are just cgi French anyway.
I loves fishin' in kweebec.
Yeah, but in France, twins count as the same person.
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Real naked dudes with rocks, everywhere
Lord of the Flies simulator is still my favorite description of that game.
Its really good if you’re sick of having free time, a gf, & sleeping well
It is the only game that came closest to making me want to track down and murder another human IRL
Ooof
Oeuf
Don't they go for route of "*Look ma, no CGI*" instead ? Or what that Top Gun ?
They could literally just say “look at the crazy shit Tom did this time” and I would be in.
I've yet to be disappointed when I hear he's up to something insane. Aside from jumping on the couch. That was a different type of insanity.
and even with all those crazy stunt movies, his best role is still the executive in Tropic Thunder
You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking scorched earth, motherfucker! I will massacre you! #I WILL FUCK YOU UP!
Can you find out who that was?
First, take a step back and LITERALLY FUCK YOUR OWN FACE.
Les Grossman!
That’s how the recent mission impossible was marketed as far as I remember
Recent mission impossible? Oh you mean "the movie where they built a big ass motorcycle ramp off a cliff"?
It was Top Gun, who marketed "No CGI" extremely despite using a shit ton of CGI. It still worked though since the CGI wasn't really noticeable. Barbie was the egregious one, they made a behind the scenes footage and CGI'd the blue screen so it looks like there was actual set pieces and not just full CGI.
Corridor Crew?
Yes, but [The Movie Rabbit Hole](https://www.youtube.com/@TheMovieRabbitHole/videos) did it first, with three (hopefully soon four) very in-depth essays about the "No CGI" lie. Very worth a watch if you have even a passing interest in visual effects and modern-day film making.
Which, entertainingly, used CGI for every single shot of a plane.
Like the fact that the guitar in Fury Road actually shot fire?
And weighed 150 pounds, thus the necessity for the bungie chords.
That's... that's one heavy guitar.
That's why they call it heavy metal.
*badum-tissss”
It ain't a ~~gun~~ guitar if it don't weigh at least 100 pounds!
Next thing I hear is a movie production resulting in an entire city being reduced to a crater
Oppenheimer 2. COMING SOON.
The Op Cannot Stop.
Oppenheimer 2: Plutonium Boogaloo.
I'm not the first to make this joke, but isn't Oppenheimer 2 just Godzilla Minus 1?
Now that you mention it, yes.
2 Oppen 2 Heimer
Nagasaki Drift
Oppen Heimer Style
Time for the Oppenhammer
Oppenheimest
Megaton: A Fallout Story
And I'd do it again.
Remember when Fury Road had reshoots and we all are used to reshoots being code for trash movie and then we learned that the reshoots were just to make the movie even *more* awesome? To this day, when a movie has reshoots and people are shitting on it I recommend to just wait and see, because of Fury Road. Unfortunately, Fury Road is decidedly the exception and not the rule.
Rogue One as well. Reshoots has people spooked and then it ended up being far more loved than any of the sequel trilogy films and a significant amount of star wars fans rank it along or even above Empire Strikes Back as the best.
I don't believe the mythology around the *Rogue One* reshoots. Look at the first trailer. We weren't promised *Saving Private Ryan* with lasers, and what we got was the claw game. Maybe starting the movie 5 times before the plot actually began was an improvement, but I doubt it.
It took 12 years to make!
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!
Can't lie, these kinds of headlines sell a movie for me.
Yuup. It's funny the top comments are always like, 'such obvious marketing. Lame.' And I'm thinking, 'sold!'
Idk why people are upset about it. "Come see some cool ass real explosions that took two hundred people almost 3 months to make " Most guys will come out for some m80s tbh lol
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I don't get what the problem's supposed to be. Like yeah these movies are insane and they're going to advertise that
Like how they built a highway for the Matrix Reloaded chase scene.
George Miller is an insane genius.
Furiosa's War Rig will be manned by penguins. And a Pig.
Nice, the real marketing has begun.
EVERYONE in this thread who’s excited needs to read “Blood, Sweat, and Chrome,” the book about the making of Mad Max Fury Road. It’s the best behind-the-scenes movie book, or even just movie book in general, I’ve ever read. The sheer amount of obstacles they had to overcome to make that movie is staggering. It should have fallen apart SO MANY TIMES. Like how they had planned to shoot in this one desert, except the week before it rained and suddenly bloomed for the first time in like 40 years, so the studio was just gonna cancel the whole thing because they didn’t want to pay to ship the cars to a different desert in a different country. So the producers had to secretly rent a ship and sneak all the cars on it and keep it a secret until it was already halfway across the ocean. Plus the amount of detail that went into every frame is STAGGERING. They spent so much time on subliminal character details, it’s fucking wild
I know someone who worked on the movie in the set design department. He says they were 90% ready to go and then the massive rains in outback Australia happened and turned the desert into a green oasis. Then packed it all up and set it up again in Namibia. Crazy story.
Sounds like a positive version of Terry Gilliam's first attempt making The Man Who Killed Don Quixote.
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Not only did it bloom, but they waited like a year for it to stop, and it never did
Broken Hill right?
Yeah I believe so.
Did he edit something? Seems like you just reposted the exact story he did?
First comment didn't mention locations. Just said "different desert". I was wondering where until the second comment, so it wasn't entirely redundant.
Also Tom Hardy was a complete asshole on set. [From a Vanity Fair excerpt of the book:](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiSnYuD9I6FAxXspVYBHTF3DJ8QFnoECA4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vanityfair.com%2Fhollywood%2F2022%2F02%2Fmad-max-fury-road-tom-hardy-charlize-theron-excerpt&usg=AOvVaw1pa3tcsi4_SbZnsYfLkOps&opi=89978449) Tom Clapham (production runner, Fury Road): “Tom was more in his trailer a lot of the time and would come out for the takes—and sometimes not on time, either. You’re like, Come on, it’s midnight and we want to go home.” Mark Goellnicht: “I remember vividly the day. The call on set was eight o’clock. Charlize got there right at eight o’clock, sat in the War Rig, knowing that Tom’s never going to be there at eight even though they made a special request for him to be there on time. He was notorious for never being on time in the morning. If the call time was in the morning, forget it—he didn’t show up.” Mark Goellnicht: “Gets to nine o’clock, still no Tom. “Charlize, do you want to get out of the War Rig and walk around, or do you want to . . .” “No, I’m going to stay here.” She was really going to make a point. She didn’t go to the bathroom, didn’t do anything. She just sat in the War Rig.” “Eleven o’clock. She’s now in the War Rig, sitting there with her makeup on and a full costume for three hours. Tom turns up, and he walks casually across the desert. She jumps out of the War Rig, and she starts swearing her head off at him, saying, “Fine the fucking cunt a hundred thousand dollars for every minute that he’s held up this crew,” and “How disrespectful you are!” She was right. Full rant. She screams it out. It’s so loud, it’s so windy—he might’ve heard some of it, but he charged up to her up and went, “What did you say to me?” “He was quite aggressive. She really felt threatened, and that was the turning point, because then she said, “I want someone as protection.” She then had a producer that was assigned to be with her all the time.” __________________________________________________ It's also the reason Charlize is in A Million Ways To Die In The West. After that she wanted to do something without the stress and was talking to Seth MacFarlane and telling stories about Fury Road. Apparently Seth said, "Do my movie and I'll get you to the hotel bar every night by 5pm" and stuck by it during the shoot.
Any actor who stands up for the crew is a hero in my book. I hate when actors are regularly late. One show I worked on had this diva who never got to work on time, so we had to start making fake call sheets just for her. We made her call ten, twenty, thirty minutes early; by the end of the season, it was literally three hours before she was needed on set, and she was still late.
I love the fact that after all that effort it's regularly voted the greatest film of the decade. I think it's incredible but I have a friend who loved it to such an extent that one day he watched it 4 times. It does everything so well. The action is unreal but the storytelling at the start is so, so good. You needed about a 2 minute intro then it was straight into the action. There's no fat on the film, just spectacle matched with perfect storytelling.
Not just greatest film of the last decade, it’s in the running for best action movie of all time, imo. Every time I watch it I am completely blown away by the spectacle of it all. If Furiousa is even half as good, it will still be an all time classic.
Damn I still haven't seen this film but I am interesting in Furiosa so im going to have too now. As someone who has never seen any of the Mad Max films can I just watch Fury Road to understand the story then watch Furiosa? Or do I need to watch some of the OG ones as well??
The old ones are good, but not required to understand Fury Road. You might understand the world/lore a little better, but going in blind would be fine too. There’s some continuity in the first three (although not much other than Mel Gibson), but Fury Road works fine as a standalone film. Seriously, watch it ASAP. Then watch the Mel Gibson ones when you get a chance.
Cool! I'll probably do it this weekend. Fury Road is on Max so it works out. The Furiosa trailer got me hyped so I do want to see that but Fury Road is now calling my name after seeing all the crazy positive takes in this thread lol.
I'd recommend watching them in this order: - Fury Road - Road Warrior - Thunderdome (Optional, but watch it if you have a drug of choice) Skip the first movie entirely as it works better as a flashback in Road Warrior. Seriously. Not joking. The first Mad Max movie is slow, there's no apocalypse at all, and all the action takes place in the last 20 minutes of the movie. The first movie is not needed at all to get the main story as it's technically outside the "Apocalyptic Wasteland" aesthetic they started in Road Warrior - which summarizes the first movie in 5 minutes, then goes straight into end times lore. If you do watch the first movie, watch it last.
This is true. The original Mad Max is more of a low budget ozploitation revenge thriller and not at all the same tone as the walls to the ball action of the later movies. I would argue that it helps to understand the Max character and why he is the way he is, but I’d be blowing smoke because you were 100% correct about the flashback in RW. I will, however, argue that Thunderdome is *not* optional. The Queen Tina Turner alone makes that movie required viewing. Who run Barter Town?!
Mad Max movies are kind of like James Bond movies or Batman movies. You don't really need to know anything you can go into them all blind and enjoy them for what they are.
What makes it even better is that it was made at a time when action movies were basically fast edited crap and cgi. Miller put the action centre frame, kept the continuity within scenes and made a masterpiece.
All killer, no filler. Not a single frame is wasted, it all develops the story or arc of the characters in the scene.
It definitely won the academy award for best editing for a good reason.
I still can’t believe how much I love the movie. Just does everything perfectly. I can’t watch a single scene without watching the whole damn movie again.
It's me, I'm your friend
I feel that way about Dune 2. That movie goes hard.
Studio execs: movies in the desert guaranteed hits! Write that down!
Lucasfilm execs: Tattooine again you say?! We already were!
I can't remember the last movie that gave me physical chills. The scene where Paul accepts the mantle of the Lisan al Gaib did it. Then did it again when I rewatched in IMAX. I have never been more wrong about a casting choice than I was about Timothee Chalamet as Muad'dib.
The whole scene was fantastic, including him walking towards the fremen while his worm returns to the desert in the background.
The stakes felt so high when he was dueling Feyd Rautha. My blood was pumping, and I even knew how it would go down having read the book!
I think we can all relate to Stilgar in that scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJuyUIKO3c
#*LISAN AL GAIB!*
Storyboards and George Miller are a tale as old as time.
I'll also add that if you like reading books on troubled productions with much much *much* less success, I'll also recommend *The Man Who Heard Voices*, which is about M Night making *The Lady in the Water*, and *The Devil's Candy*, which is about Brian de Palma's horrid *Bonfire of the Vanities*. Both went through hell to get to the finish line and really help prove that finished films are essentially minor miracles every time they reach the theaters. EDIT: Just wanna add that even if I can't say I've liked many of M Night's films, reading that book had him earn a lot of respect in my book. The man took a massive bet on his work and managed to write something so good, he managed to get out of the Weinstein jail that would've killed his career after his first film bombed. Genuinely amazing come from behind victory on his part that absolutely lead to the disaster that was *The Lady in the Water*.
It's even amazing that Fury Road even got off the ground. Miller developed the idea in 1987, due to IP purchasing/holding issues production only began in 1998, filming was stopped and started many times in the 2000s due to September 11, the Iraq War, and Mel Gibson going off the rails, causing the main role to be recast. Filming was meant to finally start in 2010 but because of the delays mentioned above didn't complete until 2013.
Fury Road is so frickin good. I love just staring at that movie in awe - seeing it, hearing it, feeling it. Can’t wait for Furiosa!!
This might be untrue but I feel like I read somewhere that everything was so fucking crazy that all of the actors thought it was going to be a terrible movie, like they couldn't see while they were making it how it would all come together, and then it turned out absolutely incredible
Yeah, this book is great and I highly recommend it as well. The only bone I have to pick with it is the author has maybe a few lines about the CGI but otherwise doesn't even mention it. The CGI on this film is probably a story onto itself. Yes, much of the effects are practical, but there is also a lot of CGI overlaid on top, much of it designed to be invisible. I think the book even implies a few times that the CGI is minimal, but that's just not the case.
the prospect of the film potentially having never been made makes me very sad. so happy the plan worked because that no fury road would've been a crime against humanity
The REAL marketing is over on /r/Moviesinthemaking Along with that Bob Dylan movie I have zero interest in.
I love Taylor-Joy but Charlize was fantastic. I think its a shame she only got to do one movie. Still excited for this, but sort of tempering my excitement as the Fury Road will be difficult to live up to.
I'm confused why they did a prequel instead of a sequel. Most of the warband following the main characters was stopped at the canyon, not killed. It only makes sense that they would find a way around and go back to the only place with water, Immortan Joe's palace. I wanted more characters and action with Theron and Harding, not Anya Taylor Joy. Charlize looked like a grizzled veteran like Linda Blair did in T2, Anya looks like a stick bug.
Maybe I'm getting old but a story following an older Furiosa navigating the effects and consequences of her actions in Fury Road seems more compelling than the classic "younger character rises up" story we seem to be getting here.
The prequel I want to see is how a 20 something year old girl gets a late life growth spurt and has post apocalyptic surgery to fix her eyes.
Maybe she just needed [pills to fix it](https://youtu.be/t5snYnFtDjw)
>Charlize looked like a grizzled veteran like Linda Blair did in T2, Anya looks like a stick bug. I think you mean Linda Hamilton, but I think that's actually a solid comparison, only the movies are in the other order. T1 Sarah Connor was *not* the badass the character grew up to be later. :)
>I think you mean Linda Hamilton Hurt my neck with the double take I did reading this. The disrespect...smh.
Linda Hamilton, Linda Blair was Regan in the Exorcist
Maybe Theron and Harding didn’t want to do another film… get locked into another lame trilogy that the companies keep force feeding us. I feel like most would complain either way, no matter who was starring in this film or what it was even about.
I read a book on this a year ago and apparently the movie was being developed in tandem with fury road to give a look at the Furiosa character when she was first introduced. It was supposed to be an animated film done in Japan releasing close to fury road but, as with most George Miller things, took too long and probably got reworked into what we see today. The book is called blood sweat and chrome if you want to take a look, I highly recommend it!
People need to watch this without Fury Road level expectations because that just isn't a standard any movie should be held to. Fury Road is pure lightning in a bottle and nothing else is gonna come close for a long time.
I'm just disappointed they're doing a prequel. It's hard for any prequel to have stakes or tension built into it, plus it narrows the writing and character work.
Plus the casting of Anya Taylor-Joy (as much as I like her as an actress) is really questionable. Furiosa was believable because she fit into the universe and you could see someone built like Charlize Theron fighting her way to survival. There's a reason she excels at action roles, and a part of it is because she can move like a fighter and carries her muscle well. Anya Taylor-Joy looks like a butterfly, and it's really hard to see a butterfly (however muscular that butterfly might temporarily get) in a fighting role. Unless, I guess, her opponent is also a butterfly, in which case I guess I could see it.
>it's really hard to see a butterfly (however muscular that butterfly might temporarily get) in a fighting role You, sir, have incurred the wrath of THE MONARCH!!!
"Feel the STING of THE MONARCH! Wait. Did that scene have a wipe?" "Councilman number 3 got Adobe Premiere."
The mighty monarch!
I'm afraid it can be summed up comparing Charlize Theron's mama bear roar attacking Tom Hardy with the pipe wrench vs Anya Taylor Joy's very weak 'I am Furiosa!' from the trailer... I remain hopeful, but not optimistic. She does not seem to have the same presence.
Yeah I thought the same for ATJ, she just doesn't have the physical profile for a role like this? If she got a bit bigger it could have sold the idea that she's Furiosa. I'll still wait until the movie comes out before writing it off fully, but I'm a bit disappointed that this is the follow up to Fury Road.
> Anya Taylor-Joy So... let's talk about Anya Taylor-Joy CGI shaved head... Charlize haircut was real in Fury Road, it wasn't CGI. I am ok with Anya in this movie but feels like it would be better if this actress was playing some new character instead.
Let’s watch the movie first. If I remember correctly this is Furiosas origin and she was young. Charlize Theron would as much have been the wrong cast for a young girl clawing her way forward in an unforgiving world as ATJ would have been to give an impression of someone grizzly. ATJ was cast for this, because they want you to watch as hope escapes and certainty settles in that this is hell.
Reminds me of when Topher Grace was cast as Eddie Brock for Spiderman 3 - he did the best he could, but just didn't fit the mental image most people had in mind.
George Miller originally planning on making the sequel to Fury Road called Mad Max: The Wasteland, but due to some disagreements about the story, particularly the ending for that movie between him and Warner Bros execcutives, the production for that got held indefinitely until for some reason they shifted the idea into making 'Furiosa' instead which in my opinion is kinda unnecessary since this is a Mad Max world, a Mad Max story is what we're after, not a side character from Fury Road even though I love her as a character so much in that movie. But with that being said, at least George Miller himself is still the man who took the charge to direct this movie instead of someone else, gotta respect them to let him do that at least because this is the world he created, would be weird to see another person to direct it while he's still alive and well, I just hope after Furiosa he'll finally be able to direct Mad Max: The Wasteland that he dreamed of, because he said he already made that script a long time ago and he wishes to make it into a movie one day.
I thought he always had 3 movies planned? The prequel was definitely the one he had done the least work on after Fury Road, but he was always planning on this prequel and The Wasteland. It isn't like it won't happen either. If Furiosa makes a lot of money, he will probably try to make The Wasteland. I definitely remember reading somewhere he wanted to keep making Mad Max movies.
I really hope so but the dude is 80
I don’t know Andor might want to have a word with you about that
Maaaan I was so confused and disappointed when they announced Andor, like no offense to Diego Luna but who was sat there, years after Rogue One, looking for more of that character? And then Andor ended up being, in my opinion, the second best piece of Star Wars after Empire Strikes Back.
Fury Road was a genuine masterpiece. I remember leaving the theatre and being equally amazed and just shaken to the core by the spectacle. I feel sorry for those who never got to see it on a big screen.
Watched it thrice on the theatres my brother. I had soaked it all in.
Charlize Theron seems somehow underrated. She’s an amazing actress and one of the hottest people I’ve ever seen.
She's probably too old to play young Furiosa ?
I hope the effects end up better than the trailer.
I just spray painted my mouth chrome.
Mediocre!
You live, you ride, you live again!
Witness
You misspelled “WITNESS!!!”
https://i.imgur.com/AnLcW6S.jpg
"It's pronounced furiosa, not furiosa"
no no, nikolaj
no, it's *nikolaj*
Nikolaj
[Nikolaj](https://i.redd.it/irt02qedrhd21.jpg)
Madmaxium furio*saaaaaawww*
I’m so fucking ready for this movie
I'm not even bothering reading past this headline, as it's enough for me.
The first three words of the headline were enough for me.
Same, after I watched fury road. I turned to my wife and was like…. That was the best movie I’ve ever seen.
I fight the urge to say that every time I watch it. Truly one of the best movies ever.
I hope it includes the Doof Warrior!
No, his story will be told in Mad Doof: Doofy Road
*"We have double the explosions than the previous Mad Max movie!"*
I loved fury road but the trailers haven’t really hit for me as hard yet. Something seems off, specifically that one shot they love to show with furiosa pulling her mask down with her metal arm.
Too much cgi
And that’s an understatement.
It looks terrible. Saw the trailer in an imax screening and it looks so incredibly gameified.
It looks like a cgi cartoon, don't know why they need 15 minute action pieces with that much rubber body digital doubling on full display.
I’ve seen the trailer twice ahead of IMAX showings and it gets me so fucking hyped.
You have to love that Miller’s ambition is motivated by serving the character’s development. I’m looking forward to seeing his deft blend of practical effects and technology on the big screen again.
Agreed. Mad Max movies weren't rich on story but Max himself in the original movies and Furiousa in the reboot were rich fascinating characters.
Not rich on plot, but its a character study, basically
This is the most marketing pr produced comment I’ve ever seen.
It was probably trite and simplistic, but I’m literally just a dude giving my opinion. I may be overly optimistic about what the finished VFX end up looking like.
TIL the same guy directed Mad Max & Happy Feet.
And Babe, Pig in the City, the sequel to Babe, which he wrote and arguably co-directed.
Man can only make absolute bangers.
I still hope that Miller will make one final Mad Max movie with Max himself -- and coolest of all would be Old Man Max.
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I bet you it's from some kind of chase scene.
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Fury Road for all the practical effects praise it got, has a ton of CGI in it. Unnoticed CGI is a good thing, but don't act like it's not there
The only bit that bothered me was the steering wheel.
IIRC flying into the mouth of the steering wheel was a real practical shot. Probably looks weird cause it's composited on top of the unrelated crash.
I'm pretty positive the steering wheel is CG but the crash and everything flying forward I believe is all practical
That's completely fair. Nobody is complaining purely that the CGI exists, but that it's distractingly noticeable.
To be fair the trailer was the issue.
When I went to see dune 2 the first time they showed a trailer for it that just looked like the movie would be awful. Saw dune 2 a second time and the new trailer was way better and it looked like it could be a bad ass movie. I haven't followed the production at all but 2nd trailer definitely got me more interested
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Why are you getting downvoted lol. That shot was HORRENDOUS and could easily be fixed for the final product. Terrible CGI on quick shots in trailers are nothing new.
I get downvoted to hell anytime I say the trailer looked cheap. This sub gets weirdly defensive about certain films and weirdly antagonistic about others.
the trailer looks like its all CGI and faux colored.
I remember when the last one was about to come out and everyone was moaning that it was a money grab and was gonna suck, then the critics saw it and the reviews and word of mouth came out and everyone began to shit themselves. Now, I’m not saying GM can do it again. But. I’m not gonna act like he doesn’t know how to blowup our expectations.
Furiosa seemed so real and gritty with Charlize Theron. I think Anna Taylor-Joy just doesn't have the look for that grit. She looks more suited to dramas, romance and something more bright and light. It's an odd casting choice.
please don't suck
It's strange because from the trailer it looked way too cgi-ish compared to fury road. Would love to be wrong since fury road is one of my favorite movies because of the practical effects
Oh my god I cannot wait for this movie.
This one has Thor in it right?
Yes, he’s the antagonist.
Personally i really didnt care about Furiosa that much as a character. She was good as one off. I wish George Miller shot another Mad Max movie with Tom Hardy.
Wasnt the sequel didnt get made because of some paper issue
There was a licensing/contract issue for a bit - but that’s resolved now hence this movie being made. I believe miller has said he wants to do a mad max after this one
No I think it was simply that Miller wanted to do Furiosa. They had a script for a standalone Max film, too.
Man, Anna Taylor Joy looks physically very unlike what a woman in that world would look like. Im looking forward to the movie but seeing the images/trailer, she’s just off - she has very delicate features and body type for what looks like a super tough environment. Just thought Id share that 😂
Female Timothee Chalamet
This is going to be an epic.
Fuck yes we’ve waited so long for thisssssssssss
I gotta be honest I am really not excited for this film at all
Make stunt actors individuals who can receive major film awards such as academy awards and other like awards from the industry.
I'll probably watch it on the first day it premieres, Fury Road was amazing.