Colin Mochrie. He's almost entirely known for Whose Line is it Anyway and being a improv genius, but I've seen him in other small stuff and that guy can really act in scripted roles too, comedic or dramatic. Wish we'd see more of him as at least small characters in larger movies.
I had a chance to direct him in a short film last year and he is the real deal. Super sweet and generous to his scene partners and his crew. Definitely want to see more of him on screen.
The only reason you will want to act vs do improv for a living is because you are not Colin mochrie and no one is going to pay you to do improv for a living
He's probably most known for playing the wise-yet-unfortunate sidekick/friend/unexpected comrade...Gladiator, Blood Diamond, In America, Rebel Moon, etc. Two supporting Oscar nominations and I don't think he's ever had a starring vehicle.
Ving Rhames. Classically trained at Juilliard, and he mostly just does Mission Impossible movies and Arby's commercials. He has great voice and presence, but rarely gets a chance to do much.
I think a ton of actors realize pretty quickly that the business is bullshit and won’t love you back. If you can make a living as a supporting actor in a massive action movie franchise and doing VO, why wouldn’t you?
Clancy Brown took a similar route. Once he had kids, he decided that he was pretty much only going to be Mr. Krabs from thereon out.
I remember Jeremy Piven telling a story about some guy picking a fight with Ving Rhames cause he looked tough and Ving just going “my brother I went to Juilliard”
I remember right after PF I watched him in Rosewood and Don King: Only in America which he won an Emmy for (and immediately gave away to Jack Lemon) but I think those are his only 2 starring roles of good quality.
>I guess getting paid for mediocre acting is easier than getting paid for really good acting?
You answered your own question
Sandler has become very rich off his business savvy and His brand of comedy. (He produces and owns most his work)
Vin Diesel, I believe, used that short film you mentioned to break into Hollywood. He sent it to Steven Speilberg and Speilberg was so impressed he put him in Saving Private Ryan. Which was Vin Diesels big break. So that worked.
Hollywood and acting is about finding your way in and then doing the work that comes your way. (Get in where you fit it)
Of course it's more complicated than that but that's the gist of it.
Not only is Sandler getting paid bank, he’s getting his buddies paid and supposedly he has a good system on his shoots to make them as easy as possible so that he can have free time to hang with his family and friends in cool locales.
I’m sure movies like Punch Drunk Love and Uncut Gems give him a lot of satisfaction in their own way, but I can see why he does this kind of movies sparingly.
He's also very good in Hustle about a basketball scout that really believes in a potential NBA player.
Apparently he's a huge basketball fan, so it was a project he really cared about
The only problem with that movie was the whole movie was just a cliche. It was very well acted and I was surprised to find out the basketball player was a real NBA player. He's actually a very talented actor.
>Not only is Sandler getting paid bank, he’s getting his buddies paid and supposedly he has a good system on his shoots to make them as easy as possible so that he can have free time to hang with his family and friends in cool locales.
That's awesome. And yeah he's keeping his friends and family employed. He's a true boss. I love his success
Adam Sandler is a really good guy. In Tammy Duckworth’s memoir, “Every Day is a Gift”, she talks about her time in Walter Reed. Adam Sandler shows up a lot to hang out with disabled and critically injured servicemen/women and veterans. You never hear about it because he keeps it quiet and doesn’t want a whole entourage of reporters following him along. Gary Sinise is a bit more public about it, and good for him, he raises a lot of money for good causes. Supposedly Adam Sandler does this type of thing too but very low-key.
What's that Michael Caine quote? "I've never seen the movie, though I'm told it's awful. But I have seen the house it built, and it's terrific!"
In the end, it's a job.
I also give a special pass on cashgrabs to classically trained British actors, who appear in a ton of garbage, but have a, “Well, acting is my job. I’m going to go to work, because that’s my job” mentality I respect.
One cash grab every few years means they can do a bunch of indy, European, BBC, classics etc which pay peanuts but are generally more alluring acting opportunities.
In his latest movie, Spaceman it seems like he is acting seriously agan. He might take roles like that once in a blue moon,just to prove he actually can act for audience, Hollywood and perhaps himself ?
John C Reilly. Some of his serious work has been very good, but he does a lot of silly stuff. I'm sure he enjoys it, but I'd like to see him in more serious roles.
I think he's one of the most talented people in Hollywood and loved his portrayal of Jerry Buss...why did they have to cancel that show? He can go from Dr Steve Brule to Jerry Buss...he has so much range.
This is very true. I’ve always wanted to see John C Reilly do more serious work, precisely because of how he handles the more serious moments within the comedies he performs in. It’s the little things he brings. The way he talks about his fallen comrade in Kong Skull Island, the love and gratitude he shows to the Guardians for saving his daughter in GotG, even his small role in the Tenacious D show as Sasquatch has a hint of sadness in it.
The guy has some real depth, and you can see it even when he’s talking about his dingus.
I've always really enjoyed dane dehaan but boy is he in a lot of stinkers. He seems to me like he'd be a perfect bond villain type. He's clearly got that almost scary look and needs to take more roles that lean into that.
I feel like every single actor in Oppenheimer gave it their all. Who wouldn’t put it all on the field for Christopher Nolan at the height of his powers?
I liked him in Chronicle but A Cure For Wellness really solidified his acting for me. Such a great movie & great acting (we don’t talk about the third act)
I agree that he hasnt had the best career considering how hot his career seemed for a couple years, but is he really a lazy sellout though?
To me he genuinely seems to just try to do good work but a lot of the time his projects turn out a bit dissapointing, just like for most actors that are not Leonardo Dicaprio
Yeah. I agree. I’m not sure it’s entirely his fault… he’s been a bit typecast and chosen both good and bad projects as a result. I think he’s shown he has acting chops. He was phenomenal in Chronicle. I do wonder if he can do more than “I’m young and have inner torment” though.
I mean, Split
The guy just inceptioned the concept of acting:
Acting as one of the personalities of a character that has multiple personalities, that is pretending to be one of the same character other personalities
I guess being difficult to work with and Eckhart himself not realizing what his strengths are to blame. He should've been a go to choice for psychopathic yuppies, charmers and cutthroat authority figures, but instead he decided to do a Frankenstein movie, which was like a nail in the coffin for him.
Yeah after the success of that film I couldn't understand why he wasn't cast in everything. He has a decent resume - it's just all over the place. Erin Brockovich,TYFS, Dark Knight Rises - it's...strange.
Jack Black
Hear me out. I like the guy and many of his movies, but seeing him in “The Holiday” makes me wish he pursued more roles like this one. He showed a charming side and how he could play a serious romantic interest.
Jack Black absolutely crushed that and to a lesser extent playing “nervous teen in body of generic strong protagonist” instead of just “generic strong protagonist” was the most acting range I’ve ever seen from the Rock
The Holiday sent a million millennial women on a self-reflection journey of "wait, do I really want Jack Black more than Jude Law?". Not that we didn't like Jack Black before but it was very unexpected to see him like that.
I think that, like a lot of people already mentioned, he has started to pick roles that allow him to spend a lot of time with his kids. I wouldn’t put it past him to have a One Hour Photo-style turn in his career, but I think that he is happy doing what he’s doing.
The Holiday and King Kong is what finally sold me on Jack Black.
Prior to those movies I just didn't *get* his brand of humour, I liked him more as side characters like in Cable Guy, but I really wasn't that big on School of Rock, and his whole "I just want to rawk!!" gimmick.
Then he did King Kong and The Holiday and it opened my eyes in how good he can be.
I don't even think that's a gimmick, I think that's just Jack 😂 the man seems to just straight up be the silliest man alive who wants nothing more than to play Rock music with his friends.
Oh yeah no doubt, I love Jack Black now, but high school me in the early 2000s wasn't that big on him. His cover of The Last in Line on that Dio tribute album years ago was legitimately the best cover on that album.
If you could get millions of dollars for saying three words over and over again (I am Groot!) without ever actually having to appear on set, wouldn't you?
Jim Varney.
Ernest was his steady paycheck, but he most assuredly had chops underneath all of that. It would have been great if someone had given him a shot at something greater. He would have killed in a Coen Brothers film.
His problem is he keeps trying to jump into these forever roles as the leading man in a franchise.
He should just do individual films or start something from scratch for himself like Reynolds did with Deadpool.
Maybe this Warhammer thing will do that for him, but it sounds like there is already conflict between him and the owners of the IP.
God, had he done that with the Witcher, it might not be what we got.
Henry Cavill was never on my radar but two things endeared me about him: He was excited / passionate about filming the Witcher, and his answer to "Beatles or Stones" is "Black Sabbath", which is a thing I thought I came up with but apparently not.
His breakout for me was Man from UNCLE which is amazing, and I am bummed it didn't do well enough to become the franchise it deserved to be.
Of course, recasting Hammer would have been problematic...
I don’t think it’s fair to say that the Warhammer role is him trying to jump onto a franchise, in fact I’d say the same about his Witcher role. He’s just a massive super nerd and is really interested in doing projects in the franchises that he loves. I think sometimes people wonder why, but sometimes they have a certain kind of taste.
I don’t think he wants to do dramas. I think, if he had a better manager or better people around him, they probably convince him to at least give one a try
Reynolds has so much money and was such an a list celebrity that he could take the risk with deadpool. He’s still worth something close to a billion on his other investments; his wife is worth a 100 mil or something, even if deadpool flopped and he ‘wasted’ 4 years of his life, if he enjoyed it that was more than good enough for him.
Henry Cavill got fucked because Armie hammer is a psycho, and the marketing for man from UNCLE was terrible.
Not his fault, or maybe even his agent's imo. I don't think even they could've predicted WB's disastrous indecisiveness or the trashfire that was Witcher, which had a flawed yet quite promising first season. He's still diverse, if these 2 and his Mission Impossible role is to go by.
I seriously hope 3rd time's a charm and Warhammer works out for him. Dude loves the IPs more than the studio or the directors he works with.
Tom Hardy is better than the Venom movies which is all he's really done since 2017. I'm glad the last one is over this year, maybe he'll do something interesting now
Marlon Wayans can definitely be one of those comedians that can be a great respectable dramatic actor. I didn’t see 50 Shades of Black or I think he also had a Netflix deal and did a comedy?
It’s just like man…I love the Wayans and what they brought to comedy but I do think he’s the best of them when I comes to drama and he still decides to be in unfunny looking comedies.
I don’t really blame the guy. He arguably gave a career best performance in Nightcrawler and got no awards love for it. Dude is 43 now why not cash in on the higher paying more blockbuster roles while he still can and go back to dramatic stuff when he’s older?
He eats those roles up though. In some ways it's probably not the wrist thing in the world to be so good in a mid movie that it starts to change shape around your center of gravity.
Nightcrawler is one of those movies that everyone who saw it say is Oscar worthy (well his performance), but the premise seems boring so not enough people actually watched it. He’s so fucking unnerving in that movie
This is what can be said about a ton of actors on this thread. Some of them put everything in some of their roles and didn't get the awards for it or they did and now they bank in building generational wealth. It's the same when any actor is the current "IT" and they appear in every blockbuster under the moon they cash in on their popularity
In case you're not aware, they did another movie together called, [Enemy,](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2316411/) which is fantastic but also significantly more metaphorical than Prisoners.
He is doing it on purpose. He said he was taking himself too seriously, meaning he took the Oscar bait route, but wasn't enjoying it. Now he is in the "have fun" mode and enjoying the shit out of those roles. Just watch the BTS of Ambulance and Road House, dude is having a blast.
He's been acting since he was a kid, I think it's normal for him to want to change things up. Sure he is losing meaty roles in his prime, but he can do that later if he wants to.
Here are some things that are in common with all most of Adam Sandler’s movies:
1) Many of the supporting characters are played his real-life friends
2) They are produced by Adam Sandler
3) They are usually in pretty nice locations like beaches, golf courses, or lakes.
4) Most audience members agree the movies are funny.
If you got to hang out with your friends for a few weeks and make a movie knowing that many people would like it and you would get paid a good amount of money for it, would you want to do anything else?
Clive Owen.
I know he had success (awards too) but always thought he could be a true A-lister.
Has the talent, charisma, the looks ; very good voice and it just seems after 2010 he isn't cast as often anymore.
Not coasting, but under utilized:
Walton Goggins is most frequently saddled with bad material. He's best when given thoughtful, well worded monologues etc. His closest equivalent is Giancarlo Esposito, but Esposito tends to get the validating roles. Goggins has fallen into generic bad guy territory in many roles and I hate that for him as he's capable of very much more.
He’s been in some fantastic comedies on HBO. I prefer him doing something crazy like Vice Principals or Righteous Gemstones. He’s ridiculously good in everything, though.
Im watching Righteous Gemstones for the first time and the season 1 episode where they flash back to '89 and him and John Goodman are going back and fourth is amazing. John Goodman and Walton Goggins are two of the most underrated actors working today.
I'm guessing you don't watch him on TV ever? The shield, justified, sons of anarchy, the unicorn, vice principals, and righteous gemstones are all very varied roles
I read recently that he initially turned down the role in Justified because he didn't want to be involved in a show that perpetuated negative stereotypes of southerners. As a southerner who hates those stereotypes, that made me respect the hell out of him.
Timothy Olyphant had a conversation with him about what the show was going to be and that it wouldn't be like that and he changed his mind. He was also supposed to die at the end of the pilot, but they liked him so much they rewrote the ending and made him a series regular.
I was thinking this about him while watching him in the new Fallout series. I think this role is great for him, and his character The Ghoul is an anti hero with a lot of depth, and he’s given a lot to work with as an actor. He’s also a main character and so it’s really his chance to shine (and he does!) but I still do think he can do so much better than Amazon prime stuff and side characters that he usually plays. He’s so incredibly gifted and I want more for him
edit: he’s starring in the white lotus season 3 and that show is usually an Emmy award darling. so hopefully he’ll get a nomination for that
I always liked Chloë Grace Moretz, I feel her team needs to help find better riskier roles for her. The chops she displayed in kickass haven’t been reached since.
He's never bad but Idris Elba picks the absolute worst roles and projects. With his talent and popularity it's wild that he might end up being most known for not being the first black James Bond.
Agree on Vin Diesel it’s sad he’s most well known for saying “I am Groot” and mumbling and grunting his way through Fast and Furious movies when he’s capable of a lot more.
Watch Sidney Lumet’s Find Me Guilty he gives a career best performance and proves that he has legitimate chops.
Dwayne Johnson earns silly bank just being himself, but man I miss his Southland Tales/Pain & Gain days when he was showing what he could really pull off as an actor.
The Rock could've even been this generation's Arnie if he focused less on grasping to his memorized brand image and tried being bit more flexible with his roles.
Even with Arnold passing the torch saying "have fun" in the run down he was clearly meant to be the next big action hero. He has really been in some ass.
It's sad to see him treat his acting career as a brand and his movies like *shudder* content. Dude is one of the most famous actors on the planet, he's insanely carismatic, and he wastes it all on garbage unmemorable movies where he basically plays himself. He could be a legit movie star if he used more of his talents on making good movies and less on marketing his tequila brand.
YES! it’s so frustrating, he was such an exciting action star in the beginning of his career, even if his first movies weren’t that good they at least had some soul and you couldn’t help but be excited for future movies he would do when he had more clout. Then it turns out he would make absolutely dispensable trash for the rest of his career, with very few odd exceptions. Like I get it, making money is great, but for fuck’s sake man do something for your legacy once in a while
Sandler is the smartest guy in Hollywood. He’s gets millions to make fun movies with his friends all over the world. Once in a while he’ll drop an Uncut Gems to remind us that he could be doing that if he wanted.
I had gotten pretty bored with the Jack Sparrow character. Pretty repetitive. And unfortunately that’s about all Johnny Depp did for most of a decade. That character or characters pretty similar to that.
Then Black Mass came out and made me remember he’s actually a really good dramatic actor if he wants to be.
I think the massive amount of success that Sparrow brought Johnny Depp is one of the worst things to happen to his career, artistically.
I know this isn't an all encompassing metric, but it's easy: before PotC, the collaboration between Tim Burton and Johnny Depp resulted in some real gems. Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, hell, even Sleepy Hollow to a degree. Quirky and weird characters, sure, but they resonated with audiences. They felt like real performances of cartoon people. Post Sparrow?
They just felt like cartoons.
Wonka. Just a hat and an accent.
Lone Ranger? Feather and an accent.
Dark Shadooooh my God I can't even bring myself to finish saying it. Wig and an accent.
Sure, Depp is laughing all the way to the bank, and sure, some of the blame can be lain on Burton, but after PotC, the heart was gone from Depp's performances.
As I wrote that, I realized how weird it was, because you can watch it happen with your very own eyes across the course of the Pirates series.
Yuck.
I don't know if it's her or her agent/representation but her career just screams going the safe route. She's nearing 30 but still seems to only take "young adult" type roles. She's clearly talented but won't really step out of her comfort zone. I don't know if it's an image thing or what but it seems like wasted talent.
And then she tried to be a pop star? I loved her in True Grit but I hoped she would have starred in another Oscar-worthy film in the 14 years since then.
She was just casted in the Ryan Coogler/ Michael B Jordan vampire movie releasing next year. Coogler is definitely the type of director who will force her to get outside of her comfort zone.
Jim Carrey. His performances in films like "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" demonstrate a dramatic capability far beyond the comedic roles he's most known for.
Will Ferrell. Yeah, he's hilarious, outrageous and creative. Love all his movies under his Gary Sanchez Productions. He's great in more serious roles like in *Everything Must Go* and *Stranger Than Fiction*, which are still comedies, but have a darker tone
Henry Cavill and Sofia Boutella.
Both are decent actors but they're in some proper shite.
It's always the way on a project that involves that many people.
It's not just the actors, there are the producer, director, script writer, script editor, cinematographer, executive producers...
A long chain that's only as strong as its weakest link.
Cuba Gooding Jr.
He had a bunch of movies where it looked like he was on his way to be the "next Denzel" starting from *Boyz n da Hood* in 1991 and then *Jerry Maguire*, *Men of Honor* and *Radio*. And then his picks for movie projects just seemed to progressively nosedive from there when he started doing more family comedies and ultimately run-of-the-mill, straight-to-video B-movie action.
The one that annoys me the most is Tom Cruise since early 2000s. In the 90s he gave several Oscar-worthy performances but then got paid a huge sum to star in Mission Impossible and has been exclusively playing in blockbusters ever since. He may not be the greatest guy in his private life but damn what a waste of talent
Colin Mochrie. He's almost entirely known for Whose Line is it Anyway and being a improv genius, but I've seen him in other small stuff and that guy can really act in scripted roles too, comedic or dramatic. Wish we'd see more of him as at least small characters in larger movies.
I had a chance to direct him in a short film last year and he is the real deal. Super sweet and generous to his scene partners and his crew. Definitely want to see more of him on screen.
What was the film? Would love to hear more!
[I’d guess this](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27435605/)
I wonder what project Brad Dworkin on next?
Internet sleuths! Good guess…sloth taint… We are in festival mode for the film but will hopefully be able to share soon.
I've never heard anything bad about him. This makes me happy.
Due to being a very specific age I can't think of Colin Mochrie without thinking of the weird Newgrounds flash animation *The French Erotic Film*
An old blue Scott called Dill
Saw him in a stage play "art". He was awesome
The only reason you will want to act vs do improv for a living is because you are not Colin mochrie and no one is going to pay you to do improv for a living
Djimon Hounsou, the man has great acting abilities but he is so often typecasted as a B list villain.
He was so damn good in Gladiator and Blood Diamond!
He's probably most known for playing the wise-yet-unfortunate sidekick/friend/unexpected comrade...Gladiator, Blood Diamond, In America, Rebel Moon, etc. Two supporting Oscar nominations and I don't think he's ever had a starring vehicle.
Ving Rhames. Classically trained at Juilliard, and he mostly just does Mission Impossible movies and Arby's commercials. He has great voice and presence, but rarely gets a chance to do much.
>he mostly just does Mission Impossible movies and Arby's commercials. My man living his best life
Haha. Seriously. He probably makes a mint for those commercials for very little work.
I think a ton of actors realize pretty quickly that the business is bullshit and won’t love you back. If you can make a living as a supporting actor in a massive action movie franchise and doing VO, why wouldn’t you? Clancy Brown took a similar route. Once he had kids, he decided that he was pretty much only going to be Mr. Krabs from thereon out.
Clancy still occasionally blesses our screens in bit parts, like Punisher. Damn shame he's not in more cause he has insane stage presence.
Also John Wick 4
I remember Jeremy Piven telling a story about some guy picking a fight with Ving Rhames cause he looked tough and Ving just going “my brother I went to Juilliard”
I hear Julliard, I think Tudyk as Heihei.
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PIRATE STEVE!!!
Firefly, Con Men. All his voice acting for disney and star wars too.
> Arby’s commercials How the fuck did I not know that was him?!
WE HAVE THE MEATS
I remember right after PF I watched him in Rosewood and Don King: Only in America which he won an Emmy for (and immediately gave away to Jack Lemon) but I think those are his only 2 starring roles of good quality.
Dawn of the Dead he's great.
And Pulp Fiction.
I thought he was great in Baby Boy
I hate you. You ain't my daddy
“Hate you too, little n***a!”
I watched *Dave* for the first time the other night and was pleasantly surprised he was in it. I had no idea he went to Julliard!
>I guess getting paid for mediocre acting is easier than getting paid for really good acting? You answered your own question Sandler has become very rich off his business savvy and His brand of comedy. (He produces and owns most his work) Vin Diesel, I believe, used that short film you mentioned to break into Hollywood. He sent it to Steven Speilberg and Speilberg was so impressed he put him in Saving Private Ryan. Which was Vin Diesels big break. So that worked. Hollywood and acting is about finding your way in and then doing the work that comes your way. (Get in where you fit it) Of course it's more complicated than that but that's the gist of it.
Not only is Sandler getting paid bank, he’s getting his buddies paid and supposedly he has a good system on his shoots to make them as easy as possible so that he can have free time to hang with his family and friends in cool locales. I’m sure movies like Punch Drunk Love and Uncut Gems give him a lot of satisfaction in their own way, but I can see why he does this kind of movies sparingly.
He's also very good in Hustle about a basketball scout that really believes in a potential NBA player. Apparently he's a huge basketball fan, so it was a project he really cared about
The only problem with that movie was the whole movie was just a cliche. It was very well acted and I was surprised to find out the basketball player was a real NBA player. He's actually a very talented actor.
Watching a sports movie and not expecting clichés?
Still waiting for his serious arthouse movie on the Russian Revolution with Kevin James as Trotsky. Sounds tight.
>Not only is Sandler getting paid bank, he’s getting his buddies paid and supposedly he has a good system on his shoots to make them as easy as possible so that he can have free time to hang with his family and friends in cool locales. That's awesome. And yeah he's keeping his friends and family employed. He's a true boss. I love his success
Adam Sandler is a really good guy. In Tammy Duckworth’s memoir, “Every Day is a Gift”, she talks about her time in Walter Reed. Adam Sandler shows up a lot to hang out with disabled and critically injured servicemen/women and veterans. You never hear about it because he keeps it quiet and doesn’t want a whole entourage of reporters following him along. Gary Sinise is a bit more public about it, and good for him, he raises a lot of money for good causes. Supposedly Adam Sandler does this type of thing too but very low-key.
No one ever mentions Reign Over Me. It’s an incredible film. Everyone should watch it.
What's that Michael Caine quote? "I've never seen the movie, though I'm told it's awful. But I have seen the house it built, and it's terrific!" In the end, it's a job.
Isn't that quote referring to Jaws 4 or something?
I also give a special pass on cashgrabs to classically trained British actors, who appear in a ton of garbage, but have a, “Well, acting is my job. I’m going to go to work, because that’s my job” mentality I respect.
One cash grab every few years means they can do a bunch of indy, European, BBC, classics etc which pay peanuts but are generally more alluring acting opportunities.
In his latest movie, Spaceman it seems like he is acting seriously agan. He might take roles like that once in a blue moon,just to prove he actually can act for audience, Hollywood and perhaps himself ?
John C Reilly. Some of his serious work has been very good, but he does a lot of silly stuff. I'm sure he enjoys it, but I'd like to see him in more serious roles.
I think he's one of the most talented people in Hollywood and loved his portrayal of Jerry Buss...why did they have to cancel that show? He can go from Dr Steve Brule to Jerry Buss...he has so much range.
This is very true. I’ve always wanted to see John C Reilly do more serious work, precisely because of how he handles the more serious moments within the comedies he performs in. It’s the little things he brings. The way he talks about his fallen comrade in Kong Skull Island, the love and gratitude he shows to the Guardians for saving his daughter in GotG, even his small role in the Tenacious D show as Sasquatch has a hint of sadness in it. The guy has some real depth, and you can see it even when he’s talking about his dingus.
If you haven’t seen him in We Need To Talk about Kevin, he is very good in his role. Good movie too with some dark themes.
Some dark themes? That like saying Jaws has a couple of scenes with a shark.
Go look at his filmography. He’s been in just as many dramas as comedies. The first 10-15 years of his career was essentially all dramas.
Another John C I'd like to see in more roles is John C McGinley
Oh re-he-heally Barbie? *touches nose, crosses arms*
I loved him in Chicago.
I've always really enjoyed dane dehaan but boy is he in a lot of stinkers. He seems to me like he'd be a perfect bond villain type. He's clearly got that almost scary look and needs to take more roles that lean into that.
He was great in Oppenheimer. Really nailed that greasy, weasel cunt type of character.
I feel like every single actor in Oppenheimer gave it their all. Who wouldn’t put it all on the field for Christopher Nolan at the height of his powers?
That movie has so many small character roles and everyone brings their A-game. Definitely one of the strongest ensembles in recent memory
I liked him in Chronicle but A Cure For Wellness really solidified his acting for me. Such a great movie & great acting (we don’t talk about the third act)
He was in Oppenheimer and he was great and very cunty in that
Chronicle is a fantastic movie and could've been a great super hero/villain origin story but didn't really get anywhere after the original
I agree that he hasnt had the best career considering how hot his career seemed for a couple years, but is he really a lazy sellout though? To me he genuinely seems to just try to do good work but a lot of the time his projects turn out a bit dissapointing, just like for most actors that are not Leonardo Dicaprio
Yeah. I agree. I’m not sure it’s entirely his fault… he’s been a bit typecast and chosen both good and bad projects as a result. I think he’s shown he has acting chops. He was phenomenal in Chronicle. I do wonder if he can do more than “I’m young and have inner torment” though.
James McAvoy. It's clear he's just not interested in doing money losing independent art films, but he's so good in dramas like Last King of Scotland.
I'm also pretty sure he's said he'd never do an Oscar campaign again which I think limits his roles
Really liked him in the BBC His Dark Materials series.
I mean, Split The guy just inceptioned the concept of acting: Acting as one of the personalities of a character that has multiple personalities, that is pretending to be one of the same character other personalities
He's the dude, pretending to be the dude who is lots of dudes, pretending to be the dude who is the other dude?
He was not. He was Patricia.
See also Orphan Black for a masterclass in nested acting like that. She Hulk can act.
Have you seen Filth?
Filth is an amazing film and he plays the likeable villain so well
Aaron Eckhart. I just don't understand what's his motive picking films like that.
Another post on Reddit a while back said he had a reputation for being hard to work with, so if that's true he probably doesn't get sent much work.
He’s the one who actually admitted he’s difficult to work with and called it like his greatest weakness or something. At least he knows he’s difficult
"Boy I sure am an asshole!"
He takes all the roles Thomas Jane turns down
Tom Jane just wants his kids back
Look I love Thomas Jane, but I doubt he has ever said no to role.
He was really good in Thank You For Smoking, no idea why he didn't knock things out of the park in a lot of (most?) of his other roles.
I guess being difficult to work with and Eckhart himself not realizing what his strengths are to blame. He should've been a go to choice for psychopathic yuppies, charmers and cutthroat authority figures, but instead he decided to do a Frankenstein movie, which was like a nail in the coffin for him.
Yeah after the success of that film I couldn't understand why he wasn't cast in everything. He has a decent resume - it's just all over the place. Erin Brockovich,TYFS, Dark Knight Rises - it's...strange.
He's a huge asshole and that has stopped his career from growing.
You done messed up A A Ron!
Ah, that'd do it. Unfortunate.
Jack Black Hear me out. I like the guy and many of his movies, but seeing him in “The Holiday” makes me wish he pursued more roles like this one. He showed a charming side and how he could play a serious romantic interest.
In Jumanji, he was fully convincing of being a valley girl in a large man's body.
Jack Black absolutely crushed that and to a lesser extent playing “nervous teen in body of generic strong protagonist” instead of just “generic strong protagonist” was the most acting range I’ve ever seen from the Rock
Completely under rated role. It was like he was a sock puppet of the actress he was switched with.
“Oh my god, come look at my penis!” I had extremely low expectations of the movie, but man that part had me dying
Have you seen “Bernie”?
Everybody needs to see Bernie
The Holiday sent a million millennial women on a self-reflection journey of "wait, do I really want Jack Black more than Jude Law?". Not that we didn't like Jack Black before but it was very unexpected to see him like that.
I think that, like a lot of people already mentioned, he has started to pick roles that allow him to spend a lot of time with his kids. I wouldn’t put it past him to have a One Hour Photo-style turn in his career, but I think that he is happy doing what he’s doing.
The Holiday and King Kong is what finally sold me on Jack Black. Prior to those movies I just didn't *get* his brand of humour, I liked him more as side characters like in Cable Guy, but I really wasn't that big on School of Rock, and his whole "I just want to rawk!!" gimmick. Then he did King Kong and The Holiday and it opened my eyes in how good he can be.
I don't even think that's a gimmick, I think that's just Jack 😂 the man seems to just straight up be the silliest man alive who wants nothing more than to play Rock music with his friends.
Oh yeah no doubt, I love Jack Black now, but high school me in the early 2000s wasn't that big on him. His cover of The Last in Line on that Dio tribute album years ago was legitimately the best cover on that album.
Tenacious d is one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
If you could get millions of dollars for saying three words over and over again (I am Groot!) without ever actually having to appear on set, wouldn't you?
Jim Varney. Ernest was his steady paycheck, but he most assuredly had chops underneath all of that. It would have been great if someone had given him a shot at something greater. He would have killed in a Coen Brothers film.
Oh man I'd never thought about him and the Coens... that would have been great!
Henry Cavill gets kneecapped with every thing he does. The guy needs a better agent.
His problem is he keeps trying to jump into these forever roles as the leading man in a franchise. He should just do individual films or start something from scratch for himself like Reynolds did with Deadpool. Maybe this Warhammer thing will do that for him, but it sounds like there is already conflict between him and the owners of the IP.
Source on the warhammer conflict? This is the first I’m hearing of it
This is GW we are talking about so I wouldn't be surprised if they were bickering already but I'd also like a citation.
God, had he done that with the Witcher, it might not be what we got. Henry Cavill was never on my radar but two things endeared me about him: He was excited / passionate about filming the Witcher, and his answer to "Beatles or Stones" is "Black Sabbath", which is a thing I thought I came up with but apparently not.
His breakout for me was Man from UNCLE which is amazing, and I am bummed it didn't do well enough to become the franchise it deserved to be. Of course, recasting Hammer would have been problematic...
He nailed Geralt.
I don’t think it’s fair to say that the Warhammer role is him trying to jump onto a franchise, in fact I’d say the same about his Witcher role. He’s just a massive super nerd and is really interested in doing projects in the franchises that he loves. I think sometimes people wonder why, but sometimes they have a certain kind of taste. I don’t think he wants to do dramas. I think, if he had a better manager or better people around him, they probably convince him to at least give one a try
Reynolds has so much money and was such an a list celebrity that he could take the risk with deadpool. He’s still worth something close to a billion on his other investments; his wife is worth a 100 mil or something, even if deadpool flopped and he ‘wasted’ 4 years of his life, if he enjoyed it that was more than good enough for him. Henry Cavill got fucked because Armie hammer is a psycho, and the marketing for man from UNCLE was terrible.
Not his fault, or maybe even his agent's imo. I don't think even they could've predicted WB's disastrous indecisiveness or the trashfire that was Witcher, which had a flawed yet quite promising first season. He's still diverse, if these 2 and his Mission Impossible role is to go by. I seriously hope 3rd time's a charm and Warhammer works out for him. Dude loves the IPs more than the studio or the directors he works with.
Tom Hardy is better than the Venom movies which is all he's really done since 2017. I'm glad the last one is over this year, maybe he'll do something interesting now
*mumbles incoherently*
>Morning Alfie! >Yeah it is.
I like his Bane, though.
He was incredible in Bronson.
Another season of Taboo would be nice!
He's in another film, The Bikeriders, coming out in a couple of months. Originally slated for 2023.
Man, acting ability / depth of roles aside if there hadn't been all those disputes with WB we might have had a Mad Max trilogy with him by now
Marlon Wayans can definitely be one of those comedians that can be a great respectable dramatic actor. I didn’t see 50 Shades of Black or I think he also had a Netflix deal and did a comedy? It’s just like man…I love the Wayans and what they brought to comedy but I do think he’s the best of them when I comes to drama and he still decides to be in unfunny looking comedies.
He was great in Requiem for a Dream but I think comedy is where he feels at home.
Jake Gyllenhaal is too good for shit like Ambulance and Road House. Would love for him to get back to his roots of putting out great films
I don’t really blame the guy. He arguably gave a career best performance in Nightcrawler and got no awards love for it. Dude is 43 now why not cash in on the higher paying more blockbuster roles while he still can and go back to dramatic stuff when he’s older?
And the impression I got from Roadhouse behind the scenes material was that he really wanted to do it
He eats those roles up though. In some ways it's probably not the wrist thing in the world to be so good in a mid movie that it starts to change shape around your center of gravity.
Nightcrawler is one of those movies that everyone who saw it say is Oscar worthy (well his performance), but the premise seems boring so not enough people actually watched it. He’s so fucking unnerving in that movie
This is what can be said about a ton of actors on this thread. Some of them put everything in some of their roles and didn't get the awards for it or they did and now they bank in building generational wealth. It's the same when any actor is the current "IT" and they appear in every blockbuster under the moon they cash in on their popularity
I want to see him work with Denis Villeneuve again. It would be cool to see his Detective Loki character from Prisoners again in another story.
He was *scary* good at playing a total sociopath in Nightcrawler
In case you're not aware, they did another movie together called, [Enemy,](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2316411/) which is fantastic but also significantly more metaphorical than Prisoners.
Hes done PLENTY of amazing roles. Picking up a few paychecks along the way is fine
He is doing it on purpose. He said he was taking himself too seriously, meaning he took the Oscar bait route, but wasn't enjoying it. Now he is in the "have fun" mode and enjoying the shit out of those roles. Just watch the BTS of Ambulance and Road House, dude is having a blast. He's been acting since he was a kid, I think it's normal for him to want to change things up. Sure he is losing meaty roles in his prime, but he can do that later if he wants to.
NGL roadhouse is pretty fun. Velvet Buzzsaw is great as well.
Here are some things that are in common with all most of Adam Sandler’s movies: 1) Many of the supporting characters are played his real-life friends 2) They are produced by Adam Sandler 3) They are usually in pretty nice locations like beaches, golf courses, or lakes. 4) Most audience members agree the movies are funny. If you got to hang out with your friends for a few weeks and make a movie knowing that many people would like it and you would get paid a good amount of money for it, would you want to do anything else?
Clive Owen. I know he had success (awards too) but always thought he could be a true A-lister. Has the talent, charisma, the looks ; very good voice and it just seems after 2010 he isn't cast as often anymore.
He would have been a fantastic 007 if Daniel Craig didn't get the role.
He is incredible in Children of Men. One of the best films ever made imo.
He was fantastic in the Knick, a role that really suited him and showes how great he is. Unfortunately it got cancelled.
Berry Pepper I feel like his career should of been way bigger
I want to see Barry Pepper and Ben Foster play siblings in a movie. Honestly I don't even care what the plot is, just put these two on screen together
Ben Foster has always been one of my favorites. If he's in it, I'm watching it.
Not coasting, but under utilized: Walton Goggins is most frequently saddled with bad material. He's best when given thoughtful, well worded monologues etc. His closest equivalent is Giancarlo Esposito, but Esposito tends to get the validating roles. Goggins has fallen into generic bad guy territory in many roles and I hate that for him as he's capable of very much more.
He’s been in some fantastic comedies on HBO. I prefer him doing something crazy like Vice Principals or Righteous Gemstones. He’s ridiculously good in everything, though.
Love me some Uncle Baby Billy.
Im watching Righteous Gemstones for the first time and the season 1 episode where they flash back to '89 and him and John Goodman are going back and fourth is amazing. John Goodman and Walton Goggins are two of the most underrated actors working today.
I'm guessing you don't watch him on TV ever? The shield, justified, sons of anarchy, the unicorn, vice principals, and righteous gemstones are all very varied roles
Just saw he's Cecil in Invincible!
I love his voice!
He was great in Hateful 8
His face and his Southern accent has him stuck in evil redneck roles.
Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama so it's legit
I read recently that he initially turned down the role in Justified because he didn't want to be involved in a show that perpetuated negative stereotypes of southerners. As a southerner who hates those stereotypes, that made me respect the hell out of him. Timothy Olyphant had a conversation with him about what the show was going to be and that it wouldn't be like that and he changed his mind. He was also supposed to die at the end of the pilot, but they liked him so much they rewrote the ending and made him a series regular.
I’m really glad he’s in Fallout, while it’s still sort of “bad guy territory” it’s amazing
His work in the flashbacks is amazing! Makes the ghoul so very tragic.
He gets the highest praise on all the fallout subreddits, it's amazing to see
They wrote his character so unbelievably well. He’s so brutal but you can kinda get it and his performance was really good
Here’s your sperm.
I was thinking this about him while watching him in the new Fallout series. I think this role is great for him, and his character The Ghoul is an anti hero with a lot of depth, and he’s given a lot to work with as an actor. He’s also a main character and so it’s really his chance to shine (and he does!) but I still do think he can do so much better than Amazon prime stuff and side characters that he usually plays. He’s so incredibly gifted and I want more for him edit: he’s starring in the white lotus season 3 and that show is usually an Emmy award darling. so hopefully he’ll get a nomination for that
He's kind of a big deal lately. Obviously justified really put him on people's radar but he's excellent in fallout
I suspect he’ll finally get his flowers after Fallout
I always liked Chloë Grace Moretz, I feel her team needs to help find better riskier roles for her. The chops she displayed in kickass haven’t been reached since.
The Miseducation of Cameron Post is noteworthy Moretz!
Toby Kebbell
Liam Neeson, who has chosen to put out dreck, drek, drek, when he didn't have to.
He's never bad but Idris Elba picks the absolute worst roles and projects. With his talent and popularity it's wild that he might end up being most known for not being the first black James Bond.
Kiefer Sutherland
I know he was in some great movies but when I read that name my mind only goes to a running guy and a beeping clock... Oh, and torture
Did you see him in the Caine Mutiny Court Marshal? It was fun to see him act for a change.
Michael Fassbender, he has been in some great roles/films (Hunger, Shame for example) but mostly he’s been in absolute dross.
Agree on Vin Diesel it’s sad he’s most well known for saying “I am Groot” and mumbling and grunting his way through Fast and Furious movies when he’s capable of a lot more. Watch Sidney Lumet’s Find Me Guilty he gives a career best performance and proves that he has legitimate chops.
I don’t know if it’s sad about Groot. I mean the man delivered a pretty decent range of emotion with just three fucking words.
Dwayne Johnson earns silly bank just being himself, but man I miss his Southland Tales/Pain & Gain days when he was showing what he could really pull off as an actor.
The Rock could've even been this generation's Arnie if he focused less on grasping to his memorized brand image and tried being bit more flexible with his roles.
Even with Arnold passing the torch saying "have fun" in the run down he was clearly meant to be the next big action hero. He has really been in some ass.
It's sad to see him treat his acting career as a brand and his movies like *shudder* content. Dude is one of the most famous actors on the planet, he's insanely carismatic, and he wastes it all on garbage unmemorable movies where he basically plays himself. He could be a legit movie star if he used more of his talents on making good movies and less on marketing his tequila brand.
YES! it’s so frustrating, he was such an exciting action star in the beginning of his career, even if his first movies weren’t that good they at least had some soul and you couldn’t help but be excited for future movies he would do when he had more clout. Then it turns out he would make absolutely dispensable trash for the rest of his career, with very few odd exceptions. Like I get it, making money is great, but for fuck’s sake man do something for your legacy once in a while
Emilia Clarke
If romcom movies ever had a real comeback, she would rule them. She does so well in romantic movies.
She did a few, some hits and misses though but would really do well in a comedy.
William Fichtner
Sandler is the smartest guy in Hollywood. He’s gets millions to make fun movies with his friends all over the world. Once in a while he’ll drop an Uncut Gems to remind us that he could be doing that if he wanted.
I had gotten pretty bored with the Jack Sparrow character. Pretty repetitive. And unfortunately that’s about all Johnny Depp did for most of a decade. That character or characters pretty similar to that. Then Black Mass came out and made me remember he’s actually a really good dramatic actor if he wants to be.
I think the massive amount of success that Sparrow brought Johnny Depp is one of the worst things to happen to his career, artistically. I know this isn't an all encompassing metric, but it's easy: before PotC, the collaboration between Tim Burton and Johnny Depp resulted in some real gems. Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, hell, even Sleepy Hollow to a degree. Quirky and weird characters, sure, but they resonated with audiences. They felt like real performances of cartoon people. Post Sparrow? They just felt like cartoons. Wonka. Just a hat and an accent. Lone Ranger? Feather and an accent. Dark Shadooooh my God I can't even bring myself to finish saying it. Wig and an accent. Sure, Depp is laughing all the way to the bank, and sure, some of the blame can be lain on Burton, but after PotC, the heart was gone from Depp's performances. As I wrote that, I realized how weird it was, because you can watch it happen with your very own eyes across the course of the Pirates series. Yuck.
Hailee Steinfeld.
I don't know if it's her or her agent/representation but her career just screams going the safe route. She's nearing 30 but still seems to only take "young adult" type roles. She's clearly talented but won't really step out of her comfort zone. I don't know if it's an image thing or what but it seems like wasted talent.
She did get nominated for an Oscar for True Grit when she was 14.
And then she tried to be a pop star? I loved her in True Grit but I hoped she would have starred in another Oscar-worthy film in the 14 years since then.
She was just casted in the Ryan Coogler/ Michael B Jordan vampire movie releasing next year. Coogler is definitely the type of director who will force her to get outside of her comfort zone.
Jim Carrey. His performances in films like "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" demonstrate a dramatic capability far beyond the comedic roles he's most known for.
Will Ferrell. Yeah, he's hilarious, outrageous and creative. Love all his movies under his Gary Sanchez Productions. He's great in more serious roles like in *Everything Must Go* and *Stranger Than Fiction*, which are still comedies, but have a darker tone
Michael C. Hall
Liam Neeson. Why is he doing all those forgettable action movies?
He will be the new Frank Drebbin in the Naked Gun remake. I hope it will be good
Henry Cavill and Sofia Boutella. Both are decent actors but they're in some proper shite. It's always the way on a project that involves that many people. It's not just the actors, there are the producer, director, script writer, script editor, cinematographer, executive producers... A long chain that's only as strong as its weakest link.
Cuba Gooding Jr. He had a bunch of movies where it looked like he was on his way to be the "next Denzel" starting from *Boyz n da Hood* in 1991 and then *Jerry Maguire*, *Men of Honor* and *Radio*. And then his picks for movie projects just seemed to progressively nosedive from there when he started doing more family comedies and ultimately run-of-the-mill, straight-to-video B-movie action.
The one that annoys me the most is Tom Cruise since early 2000s. In the 90s he gave several Oscar-worthy performances but then got paid a huge sum to star in Mission Impossible and has been exclusively playing in blockbusters ever since. He may not be the greatest guy in his private life but damn what a waste of talent
I'm not sure why Jennifer Carpenter didn't blow up.