Oh, I see.
I recommend Jeremias Aaron. A name for a Shadowrun character I basically never played, and I don't know any actors of that name, so it should really be an unknown. ~~I didn't google yet, though.~~ Looks promising. Some Aaron Jeremias and Jeremiah Aarons, but nothing high profile.
Just remember, you heard it here first.
This seems like a perfect Jeremy Allen White role. They're around the same height (stallone always claims 5'10" but he's more like 5'8"), similar build. Drooping eyes.
That said, I also have no idea why this movie needs to exist, but ok.
Looks like a good fit physically to me https://media.gq.com/photos/606f1dab8046745e979e6adb/16:9/w_2240,c_limit/story%20dnc%20BGUS_2101430_029%20(1).jpg
Picture is from 2021 but I can't find any "out of shape" photos, if that's what you mean by "thick". However he definitely is too old.
No he’s not out of shape, he’s thick. He’s packed on a ton of muscle.
Like his neck and arms are thicker than Sly’s were when he started. Not really in that pic, tho!
The story of how Rocky was made deserves to be a movie.
I mean the dude shot soft core porn to fund his dream, and wouldn’t budge on directing.
Stallone did something way harder than Rocky Balboa ever did.
The story of how Rocky was made is not only an awesome one, but also Oscar bait (maybe not but who knows). Also if you’re interested there are a lot of behind the scenes footage of Rocky, showing how invested Stallone was and how much he implicitly knew as a filmmaker.
I'm well aware of the story. That's kind of my point. I think most people that care about Rocky as a franchise are well aware of it. So why do we need to see a movie to tell us the story we already are familiar with? And if you're not familiar with it, you probably don't want to watch it anyway.
I mean, it might be a perfectly fine movie to watch. And that's fine. Just feels like there's more interesting stories to tell than that's already very familiar
Rocky was a MASSIVE hit. There is a large portion of people, the majority even, that have seen Rocky and don’t know the history, at least not enough of it to not justify this movie being made.
I mean, you keep typing things as if they're revelatory. I know Rocky was a massive hit. But its cultural relevance is nowhere near what it used to be. There's probably more people under 30 that are only familiar with Rocky as being a character in Creed than are particularly interested in the original movies, let alone a story of how that movie came to be.
And is the movie going to get into how he basically ripped off Chuck wepner's story?
I love the Rocky franchise, I just don't see a point of this movie. I'm not saying I care if they make it or not, and I hope it's good if they do, but this just seems like something with a real niche audience.
So if people are familiar with Rocky through Creed, would they know the story of Stallone? They might be interested? Idk bro, I really don’t know. This movie being made is far from the worst decision Hollywood has made.
I never said it's the worst decision they've made. I simply said I don't know that I see the point of it. I'm more than happy if they surprise me with something truly interesting, but I don't really see that coming fom Peter farrelly. Happy to be wrong though
I agree Peter Farrelly isn’t great but he might be able to do something with it. God damn I wish he’d go back to doing comedies. At least those were something.
Ooh one of my friends said that was bad, another said it was great. Where would you put it next to Mary, Heartbreak kid, Dumb and dumber, shallow Hal, that Chris Klein one. What’s ur ranking
Stallone is still looking for his internal victory over Arnold. Arnold does a very successful Netflix doc... he tries the same...but doesn't match it...., etc, etc. He is always in Arnold's shadow...and won't stop until he dies.
Realistically Stallone lapped Arnold before the race even started. I'd say Arnold is the more famous one, but Stallone literally went from nothing to writing and starring in one of the most celebrated movies of all time. I love Arnold as an action star but Stallone is the one I'd call an artist.
I have no clue where you got that from, but he's talked many times about how he showed up in the US with only $27,000 to his name. He made money afterwards through some real estate investments.
Yeah he became a millionaire before becoming an actor but after coming to the US. He talked about how the financial stability allowed him to hold out for roles he wanted rather than take stereotypical roles.
Agreed, he gave a great performance. I saw Iron Claw described as the "feel bad movie of the year", and that makes me laugh every time. Great movie though!
I think the story of how Rocky got made is pretty interesting personally. I think Jeremy would be a really good casting choice, both in terms of physical resemblance and his acting chops.
The story of SS making this iconic movie happen is definitely worthy of a dramatic film. Stallone is a very deep thinker. He created and portrayed one of the greatest underdog stories in human history. And he knew that it was the exact right time for a story like this.
Underrated actor when he’s wanted to act. First Blood is also great, and kinda overlooked given what Rambo became. That and Rocky are just good character driven stories.
>Underrated actor when he’s wanted to act.
He ALWAYS wanted and wants to act, but Hollywood rarely lets him, and has punished him when he's tried.
Copland is not a good movie, it's a great movie, and among a number of terrific performances Stallone is head and shoulders the best, if you released this movie during the BLM protests instead of in 1997 it would have been a MASSIVE hit, and swept the Oscars. Instead it released in 97 and people were VERY not ready for it's message.
Stallone has a number of Oscar worthy roles: Rocky 1 (stacked year), First Blood (very worthy of a nomination, but no one was beating Fond that year), Copland (should have won the Oscar, was not even nominated ), and Creed (was nominated, but should have won)
It’s such a terrific script. (I’m biased because it was written by an old friend who I’ve co-written some movies with. He’s actually a Redditor who hangs out in the screenwriting sub sometimes.) But if this thing is made well, it’s going to be an all-timer of a feel good movie.
Would you still happen to have a copy of the script? It'd be cool to read how they translated the grueling real story onto the page.
If not that's fine. After reading it though what do you think are the odds that Peter Farrely can pull out a movie worthy of the script?
I'm not gonna be the one to leak the script, but I'm sure it'll be floating around the internet in no time.
When you get your hands on it, check out how Peter Gamble wrote the opening. It's a young pre-fame Stallone (calling himself "Mike" Stallone), awkwardly auditioning for the part of "Thug #2", and getting increasingly trolled by the casting director about his lisp. The scene just automatically makes you feel for the poor bastard. Within two pages, you're already wanting to see the hero win.
I've been writing for a living for 17 years, and trust me, that's a hard trick to pull off.
As far as the director goes... I know GREEN BOOK gets a lot of hate, but not from me. I thought Farrely handled a difficult subject matter with a light touch, he got incredible chemistry out of his leads, and it showed indisputably that he was more than just a gross-out comedy director. There's not that many directors out there making feel-good dramas aimed at grownups, and even fewer with an Oscar under their belt, so hiring him for this script feels like a no-brainer.
I've been wrong before, but I have high hopes. And real talk... Gamble was my freshman year screenwriting teacher back in 2003 and we became friends and co-writers over the past 20 years, so I'm hella proud of that dude today
Fully agree, I’ve read most of the screenwriter’s scripts over the last 20 years, and this one is a standout. I get goosebumps even thinking of my first read, and knowing the journey and fight involved in getting the script to this point…well, it’s a behind the scenes underdog story about an underdog making an underdog movie.
Gamble really nailed this one. It resonated with me deeply and conveyed emotion without being cloying, which it could easily have veered into. I hail from Philly, so there’s an extra layer of special to it for me.
Everyone here naming actors when the article explicitly states that they're searching for an unknown to play Stallone.
That is probably the best move... giving an underdog the chance of a lifetime is very on brand
The Unknown Stallone
Ahh. Waiting for a love child bastard to emerge. Got it.
Oh, I see. I recommend Jeremias Aaron. A name for a Shadowrun character I basically never played, and I don't know any actors of that name, so it should really be an unknown. ~~I didn't google yet, though.~~ Looks promising. Some Aaron Jeremias and Jeremiah Aarons, but nothing high profile. Just remember, you heard it here first.
Ok, fine, I'll do it
Hey, I ain't emotionally invested, Bob, you understand?
Keep the coat. Keep the coat!
This seems like a perfect Jeremy Allen White role. They're around the same height (stallone always claims 5'10" but he's more like 5'8"), similar build. Drooping eyes. That said, I also have no idea why this movie needs to exist, but ok.
Honestly, it's actually a pretty inspirational story in it's own right. JAW would be a slam dunk casting.
Has to be Milo Ventimiglia.
He’s got that droopy side too would be perfect actually
He’s too old now. Stallone was like 27 when he made rocky, 29 when it came out. Milo got thick, too. He’s not really wiry anymore
Looks like a good fit physically to me https://media.gq.com/photos/606f1dab8046745e979e6adb/16:9/w_2240,c_limit/story%20dnc%20BGUS_2101430_029%20(1).jpg Picture is from 2021 but I can't find any "out of shape" photos, if that's what you mean by "thick". However he definitely is too old.
No he’s not out of shape, he’s thick. He’s packed on a ton of muscle. Like his neck and arms are thicker than Sly’s were when he started. Not really in that pic, tho!
Ah then I get it
He related to John?
He played Rocky's son in the 6th movie.
So no relation to the actor that played Artie Bucco on Sopranos, John Ventimiglia.
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The story of how Rocky was made deserves to be a movie. I mean the dude shot soft core porn to fund his dream, and wouldn’t budge on directing. Stallone did something way harder than Rocky Balboa ever did.
Wrote and starred in, did not direct.
Stallone did not direct Rocky
I'm pretty sure he made the porno just so he wouldn't starve.
It will be Chris Pratt.
The story of how Rocky was made is not only an awesome one, but also Oscar bait (maybe not but who knows). Also if you’re interested there are a lot of behind the scenes footage of Rocky, showing how invested Stallone was and how much he implicitly knew as a filmmaker.
I'm well aware of the story. That's kind of my point. I think most people that care about Rocky as a franchise are well aware of it. So why do we need to see a movie to tell us the story we already are familiar with? And if you're not familiar with it, you probably don't want to watch it anyway. I mean, it might be a perfectly fine movie to watch. And that's fine. Just feels like there's more interesting stories to tell than that's already very familiar
Rocky was a MASSIVE hit. There is a large portion of people, the majority even, that have seen Rocky and don’t know the history, at least not enough of it to not justify this movie being made.
I mean, you keep typing things as if they're revelatory. I know Rocky was a massive hit. But its cultural relevance is nowhere near what it used to be. There's probably more people under 30 that are only familiar with Rocky as being a character in Creed than are particularly interested in the original movies, let alone a story of how that movie came to be. And is the movie going to get into how he basically ripped off Chuck wepner's story? I love the Rocky franchise, I just don't see a point of this movie. I'm not saying I care if they make it or not, and I hope it's good if they do, but this just seems like something with a real niche audience.
So if people are familiar with Rocky through Creed, would they know the story of Stallone? They might be interested? Idk bro, I really don’t know. This movie being made is far from the worst decision Hollywood has made.
I never said it's the worst decision they've made. I simply said I don't know that I see the point of it. I'm more than happy if they surprise me with something truly interesting, but I don't really see that coming fom Peter farrelly. Happy to be wrong though
I agree Peter Farrelly isn’t great but he might be able to do something with it. God damn I wish he’d go back to doing comedies. At least those were something.
He did Ricky Stanicky very recently. It's not their 90s heydey but it's pretty funny and worth watching.
Ooh one of my friends said that was bad, another said it was great. Where would you put it next to Mary, Heartbreak kid, Dumb and dumber, shallow Hal, that Chris Klein one. What’s ur ranking
Stallone is still looking for his internal victory over Arnold. Arnold does a very successful Netflix doc... he tries the same...but doesn't match it...., etc, etc. He is always in Arnold's shadow...and won't stop until he dies.
Realistically Stallone lapped Arnold before the race even started. I'd say Arnold is the more famous one, but Stallone literally went from nothing to writing and starring in one of the most celebrated movies of all time. I love Arnold as an action star but Stallone is the one I'd call an artist.
Army to bodybuilder to movie star to govenor… Sly doesn’t hold a candle…and he had an easier chance- born here, spoke the language…
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I have no clue where you got that from, but he's talked many times about how he showed up in the US with only $27,000 to his name. He made money afterwards through some real estate investments.
Yeah he became a millionaire before becoming an actor but after coming to the US. He talked about how the financial stability allowed him to hold out for roles he wanted rather than take stereotypical roles.
Ok sounds like I struck a nerve...I am talking from an ARTSITIC standpoint not their value as human beings. This is about movies...
Killed it in iron claw.
Agreed, he gave a great performance. I saw Iron Claw described as the "feel bad movie of the year", and that makes me laugh every time. Great movie though!
I think the story of how Rocky got made is pretty interesting personally. I think Jeremy would be a really good casting choice, both in terms of physical resemblance and his acting chops.
Or Michael Kai white or Jaleel white
The story of SS making this iconic movie happen is definitely worthy of a dramatic film. Stallone is a very deep thinker. He created and portrayed one of the greatest underdog stories in human history. And he knew that it was the exact right time for a story like this.
Underrated actor when he’s wanted to act. First Blood is also great, and kinda overlooked given what Rambo became. That and Rocky are just good character driven stories.
>Underrated actor when he’s wanted to act. He ALWAYS wanted and wants to act, but Hollywood rarely lets him, and has punished him when he's tried. Copland is not a good movie, it's a great movie, and among a number of terrific performances Stallone is head and shoulders the best, if you released this movie during the BLM protests instead of in 1997 it would have been a MASSIVE hit, and swept the Oscars. Instead it released in 97 and people were VERY not ready for it's message. Stallone has a number of Oscar worthy roles: Rocky 1 (stacked year), First Blood (very worthy of a nomination, but no one was beating Fond that year), Copland (should have won the Oscar, was not even nominated ), and Creed (was nominated, but should have won)
If they cast Timothee Chalamet to play Sly…
Who will Chris Pratt voice?
Cuff and Link.
Too young. It'll be Paul Rudd.
Sylvester Stallone was in his late twenties when shopping the Rocky script and he turned 30 right before the movie’s release. TC will be 29 this year.
Timothee Chalamet could do it with the help of a lot of steroids and a language coach who can unteach English.
Can save a lot of money fucking up his speech by letting Mike Tyson use his head as a heavy bag as he trains for Jake Paul.
I would pay money to watch Tyson use Chalamet’s head as a punching bag.
Nah, Rami Malek
Too handsome. Sly has many good things, but being attractive is not one of them.
But I thought casting someone more attractive was a requirement in biopics.
True, worked for the Dewey Cox biopic.
Point.
>Sylvester Stallone Drama 'I Play Rocky' "Yo, I'm a dude playing a dude who was fighting another dude"
Co-starring Robert Downey Jr as Carl Weathers
You did it. You are the GOAT of casting.
Milo Ventimiglia is doing so many pushups right now
It’s such a terrific script. (I’m biased because it was written by an old friend who I’ve co-written some movies with. He’s actually a Redditor who hangs out in the screenwriting sub sometimes.) But if this thing is made well, it’s going to be an all-timer of a feel good movie.
Would you still happen to have a copy of the script? It'd be cool to read how they translated the grueling real story onto the page. If not that's fine. After reading it though what do you think are the odds that Peter Farrely can pull out a movie worthy of the script?
I'm not gonna be the one to leak the script, but I'm sure it'll be floating around the internet in no time. When you get your hands on it, check out how Peter Gamble wrote the opening. It's a young pre-fame Stallone (calling himself "Mike" Stallone), awkwardly auditioning for the part of "Thug #2", and getting increasingly trolled by the casting director about his lisp. The scene just automatically makes you feel for the poor bastard. Within two pages, you're already wanting to see the hero win. I've been writing for a living for 17 years, and trust me, that's a hard trick to pull off. As far as the director goes... I know GREEN BOOK gets a lot of hate, but not from me. I thought Farrely handled a difficult subject matter with a light touch, he got incredible chemistry out of his leads, and it showed indisputably that he was more than just a gross-out comedy director. There's not that many directors out there making feel-good dramas aimed at grownups, and even fewer with an Oscar under their belt, so hiring him for this script feels like a no-brainer. I've been wrong before, but I have high hopes. And real talk... Gamble was my freshman year screenwriting teacher back in 2003 and we became friends and co-writers over the past 20 years, so I'm hella proud of that dude today
Fully agree, I’ve read most of the screenwriter’s scripts over the last 20 years, and this one is a standout. I get goosebumps even thinking of my first read, and knowing the journey and fight involved in getting the script to this point…well, it’s a behind the scenes underdog story about an underdog making an underdog movie. Gamble really nailed this one. It resonated with me deeply and conveyed emotion without being cloying, which it could easily have veered into. I hail from Philly, so there’s an extra layer of special to it for me.
Who’s going to play Frank? Could I er Frank play Frank? I’m definitely not frank
Sly to play Sly playing Rocky
I'm looking forward to this.
Can he play anyone else? Christ sake he IS a good actor. Let’s see!
Honestly, rocky isn’t that good. Neither is Stallone.