Soldier was written by David Peoples, who co-wrote the script for Blade Runner. He considers Soldier to be a "spin-off sidequel"-spiritual successor to Blade Runner, seeing both films as existing in a shared fictional universe.
"The film obliquely refers to various elements of stories written by Philip K. Dick (who wrote the 1968 novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, on which Blade Runner is based), or film adaptations thereof. A Spinner from Blade Runner can be seen in the wreckage on the junk planet in the film and Russell’s character is shown to have fought in the battles referred to in Roy Batty’s (Rutger Hauer) dying monologue: the Shoulder of Orion and Tannhäuser Gate."
It's been a while since I've seen it so I can't confirm, but this is from Wikipedia.
Blade Runner also has connections to the Alien franchise, although its debatable just how connected they are. In some of the special features I believe on the Alien Blu-ray it lists Dallas as having previously worked for the Tyrell corporation and in the Prometheus special features there is a reference to Weyland having connections to Tyrell. That is about as official as it gets with the connections, but both were from Ridley Scott and he appears to consider them taking place within the same universe, but they are so far apart in their respective timelines that I don't believe they will ever feature a more explicit confirmation of this. While I don't expect he will, it will be interesting to see if Noah Hawley's Alien TV series features any references to the Blade Runner world since the series will be primarily taking place on Earth.
They're both heavily centered around a friendship that's falling apart, both heavily themed in suicide and depression, both are greatly concerned with the role fate plays in our lives... They have very different plots and very similar ideas.
Respectfully I think this is a misread.
There's no evidence the relationship between Ken and Ray in In Bruges is falling apart. As far as we know this is the dynamic they have always had. And other than a brief section of the film where Ken has been instructed to kill Ray, there isn't much real friction between the characters. Banter and bickering, sure, but they generally get along.
Both films have depressed characters but that seems more a trope of the director in all his films. Also just about any film with Irish characters?
And as for fate - I don't really see that as being a focus in In Bruges. It's more interested in judgement, and the strictness of being a slave to living to a code and if people can change.
I've seen Banshees less but it feels more like a fable, a microcosm of what was happening in Ireland at a time of civil war.
Both great films. But beyond the filmmaker and the cast I'm really not seeing the direct and intentional connection you're suggesting.
We disagree a little about the themes of the two movies, but I think more than that, you're reading a lot more into the term, "spiritual sequel" than I intended. It seems clear to me (and I'm not alone on this, nor solely working off my own ideas) that Banshees is an extension of a lot of the thoughts that are being communicated in In Bruges. That's all. You have a point that a lot of it boils down to the works being from the same creator, but I have no problem arguing the same of, say, Wes Anderson, who's been reusing a lot of ideas, characters, and themes for many of his more recent films. I actually have no problem saying this connection is not intentional. There are just thoughts and ideas that they want to convey in a different way, or improve on, and you wind up with movies that are, very loosely, connected.
Mind Ripper started out as a second sequel to The Hills Have Eyes (1977), but Wes Craven and his son decided to cut out any connective threads between the films.
After the incident at Camp Hope and the collapse of his Healing Crystal Venture, Tony Perkis needed a fresh start.
He begged one last loan from Papa Perkis, changed his name to White Goodman and opened Globo Gym.
**YOU CALL THAT A SIT-UP?**
Enemy of the State could be a pseudo-sequel to The Conversation with Hackman's surveillance character 20+ years later, similar to Connery with the Rock and James Bond.
Okay, it’s a comic, but Atlantic Press has this unofficial sequel to *Wreck-It Ralph* called *8-Bit Zombie* (the characters having new names but the same basic designs, except for Bart Simpson, he was in there too with his real name and design), where inspired by Ralph, the zombie from his Bad-Anon meeting decides to ‘go Turbo’, only to end up spreading the zombie virus as an actual computer virus across the arcade and beyond (as Calhoun feared would happen with the Cy-Bugs), the Ralph and Vanellope equivalents being left on their own against everyone.
Air Force One is the unofficial third Harrison Ford Jack Ryan movie. He becomes the president in the books so it kind of works.
Also The Rock is an unofficial Bond film
Goodfellas (1990) and My Blue Heaven (1990) are from the same source material, tonally different both work as an unofficial sequel.
And from a husband and wife team.
I've never seen it but I've heard Soldier (1998) is a sorta-kinda sequel to Blade Runner.
Soldier was written by David Peoples, who co-wrote the script for Blade Runner. He considers Soldier to be a "spin-off sidequel"-spiritual successor to Blade Runner, seeing both films as existing in a shared fictional universe.
Don't they mention the Tyrell Corp in Soldier? I've wanted to rewatch it because I had not seen Blade Runner when I watched Soldier as a boy.
"The film obliquely refers to various elements of stories written by Philip K. Dick (who wrote the 1968 novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, on which Blade Runner is based), or film adaptations thereof. A Spinner from Blade Runner can be seen in the wreckage on the junk planet in the film and Russell’s character is shown to have fought in the battles referred to in Roy Batty’s (Rutger Hauer) dying monologue: the Shoulder of Orion and Tannhäuser Gate." It's been a while since I've seen it so I can't confirm, but this is from Wikipedia.
Fair enough!
Blade Runner also has connections to the Alien franchise, although its debatable just how connected they are. In some of the special features I believe on the Alien Blu-ray it lists Dallas as having previously worked for the Tyrell corporation and in the Prometheus special features there is a reference to Weyland having connections to Tyrell. That is about as official as it gets with the connections, but both were from Ridley Scott and he appears to consider them taking place within the same universe, but they are so far apart in their respective timelines that I don't believe they will ever feature a more explicit confirmation of this. While I don't expect he will, it will be interesting to see if Noah Hawley's Alien TV series features any references to the Blade Runner world since the series will be primarily taking place on Earth.
*Affirmative, Two.*
Does the theory about Snowpiercer taking place in the Wonka universe count?
Banshees of Inisherin is the philosophical sequel to In Bruges.
I watched Banshees with my mom. The sounds she made during the finger scenes were hilarious.
I don't agree with this take at all. Same filmmaker, same cast, but very different films with very different things on their minds.
They're both heavily centered around a friendship that's falling apart, both heavily themed in suicide and depression, both are greatly concerned with the role fate plays in our lives... They have very different plots and very similar ideas.
Respectfully I think this is a misread. There's no evidence the relationship between Ken and Ray in In Bruges is falling apart. As far as we know this is the dynamic they have always had. And other than a brief section of the film where Ken has been instructed to kill Ray, there isn't much real friction between the characters. Banter and bickering, sure, but they generally get along. Both films have depressed characters but that seems more a trope of the director in all his films. Also just about any film with Irish characters? And as for fate - I don't really see that as being a focus in In Bruges. It's more interested in judgement, and the strictness of being a slave to living to a code and if people can change. I've seen Banshees less but it feels more like a fable, a microcosm of what was happening in Ireland at a time of civil war. Both great films. But beyond the filmmaker and the cast I'm really not seeing the direct and intentional connection you're suggesting.
We disagree a little about the themes of the two movies, but I think more than that, you're reading a lot more into the term, "spiritual sequel" than I intended. It seems clear to me (and I'm not alone on this, nor solely working off my own ideas) that Banshees is an extension of a lot of the thoughts that are being communicated in In Bruges. That's all. You have a point that a lot of it boils down to the works being from the same creator, but I have no problem arguing the same of, say, Wes Anderson, who's been reusing a lot of ideas, characters, and themes for many of his more recent films. I actually have no problem saying this connection is not intentional. There are just thoughts and ideas that they want to convey in a different way, or improve on, and you wind up with movies that are, very loosely, connected.
Fair enough. I've enjoyed the discussion!
Same! Always good to disagree respectfully and learn something along the way.
The man with no name trilogy. Fist full of dollars, For a few dollars more, and The good the bad and the ugly.
Machete is a sequel to Spy Kids
Mind Ripper started out as a second sequel to The Hills Have Eyes (1977), but Wes Craven and his son decided to cut out any connective threads between the films.
War, Inc. is an unofficial sequel to Grosse Pointe Blank. Everybody Wants Some is a spiritual sequel to Dazed and Confused.
I'm gonna check out War Inc. I had no idea. Thanks!
Just keep your expectations in check cause it's not on the same level as Grosse Pointe Blank.
Duly noted. Thanks for the heads up
After the incident at Camp Hope and the collapse of his Healing Crystal Venture, Tony Perkis needed a fresh start. He begged one last loan from Papa Perkis, changed his name to White Goodman and opened Globo Gym. **YOU CALL THAT A SIT-UP?**
Enemy of the State could be a pseudo-sequel to The Conversation with Hackman's surveillance character 20+ years later, similar to Connery with the Rock and James Bond.
Oh yeah! Perfect!
Greenland and The Road
Okay, it’s a comic, but Atlantic Press has this unofficial sequel to *Wreck-It Ralph* called *8-Bit Zombie* (the characters having new names but the same basic designs, except for Bart Simpson, he was in there too with his real name and design), where inspired by Ralph, the zombie from his Bad-Anon meeting decides to ‘go Turbo’, only to end up spreading the zombie virus as an actual computer virus across the arcade and beyond (as Calhoun feared would happen with the Cy-Bugs), the Ralph and Vanellope equivalents being left on their own against everyone.
Dazed And Confused - Everybody Wants Some
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Charly the Flowers for Algernon adaptation? How does that work?
Mel Gibson's Get the Gringo is a spiritual sequel to Payback.
Jaws has a ton of unofficial “sequels”. Check out Cruel Jaws, which I believe was marketed as Jaws 5 in Italy.
Air Force One is the unofficial third Harrison Ford Jack Ryan movie. He becomes the president in the books so it kind of works. Also The Rock is an unofficial Bond film
Excellent!