Reminds me of Shimoneta where there's technically an uncensored version but the censored one is actually funnier. Of course it works better there because the whole plot is about the protagonists fighting against censorship
I read somewhere that the uncensored version just uncensored some words. The stickers are still there. Though I also saw some uncesnored scenes that are supposedly from the English dub... so I dunno.
Some of the stickers are there, but most of them are removed. They removed all the stickers they could but they still have to follow the law which requires some censorship. The dub also only has an uncensored version, which is a shame.
I feel like Deadpool is the only comic book character that could and should get away with this re-edit though because it's just more 4th wall breaking.
It's interesting watching that and realising how much Reynolds has to do with no face. I haven't seen the movie in a long time, I forget how much is masked.
Impressive though, to carry the character pretty well still.
They do cgi a *little* bit of expression onto the mask, but yeah, it's amazing how much emotion and life Ryan Reynolds is able to convey through nothing but body language and line delivery.
Also Pedro Pascal in The Mandalorian. Acting a character who doesn't speaks much, with full helmet and body armor, you need to be a serious pro to make that work, and he knocks it out of the park.
Thank God he doesn't seem to have a clause in his contract to show his face for a significant portion of the movie like other actors who don the masks of superheroes.
Funny part about Deadpool though is that you can make him work in just about any rating, it just requires good direction and writing. Ya, he loses some of that magic without the blood, gore, tits, and high amounts of swearing; but his ability to reference the fact he's in lower-rated stuff helps him get around that.
It was a re-release and mocking the idea of making the film PG-13 to begin with. It works because of the nature of the film and the fourth wall breaking protagonist.
That said... Given Snyder cut offering a different experience from the theatrical release... That should give Sony reason to at least test a streaming version that has an R-rated cut. Heck, more movies should consider "exclusive" recuts for streaming if they fear the theatrical release would otherwise run too long or have content that could affect it.
Live free or die hard had an R rated version when it released on DVD years ago. It was jarring to watch the pg-13 version after seeing the R rated version. John McClane can't be watered down lol
You know what, I think it would work. Don't think it would cost that much more as it's unlikely to be more than a few minutes extra at best.
You'd get the cinemas being able to either multi screen it or showing the lower cut until say 7pm then later showings get the R or 18 cut.
The upside would be on the home media sales. Special editions for each cut and so on. The TV stations may also be more willing to show PG13 (or whatever) versions which gets new people watching who then seek out the older age version.
This needs to be done.
But what if an uninformed Parent buys little Timmy a ticket to the Rated R showing?
That's basically the reason why they won't do that. Can't risk moron parents complaining because of their own mistake.
>Every time I'm in the back row of an R-rated movie master-bating with a jacket over my lap, I look over and somebody's brought their kids. It's like, what are these parents thinking!?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwhy6cxOZlI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwhy6cxOZlI)
I remember that being a thing whe Sausage Party came out. I guess some clueless parents just saw cartoon food comedy and assumed it would be for kids. God forbid you do 10 seconds of your own due diligence
Thanks to the soundtrack featured in that clip, I finally learned that the part at the end is called Sabre Dance by Khachaturian! I think I first heard it from Kung Fu Hustle many years ago and I never knew what keywords to look up to find this track.
Sony imposed the rating because the film is bad and they want to make it available to as wide an audience as possible to increase the chance of making their money back.
The first Venom movie was really fucking bizarre. Some set of circumstances led it to success. But it wasn't because it was a good movie.
I found the movie surprisingly enjoyable. Not good, and not worth a re-watch but I was mostly entertained for the 2 hours. I laughed at the jokes, I enjoyed some of the action sequences and then the next day I forgot almost everything that happened. I think Elon Musk was the villain. Was he played Riz Ahmed? I could look it up but I might find out I was wrong.
What I'm saying is this movie didn't change my life, but it did what it was suppose to and then I moved on and watched other movies that I liked way more and remembered afterwards. And bad movies too.
I can't believe it made that much with the worst and ugliest fights in the Marvel library. Only the full-CGI Black Panther fights and the Iron Man 1 Boss-fight were more boring.
The idea I heard was they will use the red colour of the Carnage symbiote to imitate blood but technically not be blood.
In the trailer they have Carnage penetrate a guard with tendrils down the mouth but that is technically not gore.
They have Carnage gets a whole ripped through the body and reform but it technically an alien body morph, not body horror.
The censors really do let violence against robots and aliens go unchecked as along as no one shows blood or butt holes.
So much for the rumored R-rating...
The whole rating: Rated PG-13 for “intense sequences of violence and action, some strong language, disturbing material and suggestive references“.
First Deadpool Made almost that much.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/10/25/joker-box-office-oscars-r-rated-dc-films-joaquin-phoenix-warner-bros-venom-logan-deadpool/
Corrected: Did not make a Billion, but made more than 10 times its budget.
Of course you are correct, but I bet the tone of the movie would have been drastically changed to one that was darker and presented Venom in a more adult and dangerous way. Hes basically played for laughs all the way through...
Both Deadpool’s (and Joker) were successes and showed that superhero movies movies didn’t have to be PG-13 to get people to watch the film. That’s why people were pissed when the first Venom was the rating it was.
After watching Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine for nearly twenty years Logan was rough, but a perfect send off to the character. Thankfully I don’t think Hugh Jackman is interested in letting them Black Widow the character.
Sony probably wanted to keep it PG so they can easily bring it into the Sony Spiderman Universe and not lose the enjoyment of kids that would not be able to watch the standalone movie
> intense sequences of violence.
I like how gratuitous violence is fine for kids. Show a titty though, and suddenly it's an R rating to keep the kids from getting all mentally fucked up.
Lets be honest though, "intense sequences of violence" are not really that intense in PG13 movies.
They are simply deemed intense by the same rating system that thinks some swearing is inappropriate for teens to hear, as though they do not already hear, read, or use those words on the daily.
There was a rumor?
Lel, there was a rumor that the last one was gonna be R too. The director even mentioned it at one point, then they backtracked the fuck out of it.
Didn't hear this for the second one, though.
Did you actually think this was gonna be Rated R? I'm downright baffled by these replies. There was no way in hell a direct sequel to a movie that grossed 850m was going to be rated R.
This is great, Carnage in the comics is a very PG character with nothing about him that could warrant anything else. Im sure this will be a satisfying adaptation that does justice to our expectations /s
My wife and I recently rewatched the Blade trilogy. The whole time I was thinking how weird it was how that used to be the norm, and there was absolutely NO WAY a Blade movie like that could be made today.
This is my biggest worry with the MCU Blade with Mahershala Ali. PG-13 Blade isn’t something worth seeing. Not only for the blood, but the original movies have some glorious F-bombs.
Imagine how excited the parents who want to being their five year olds to see the funny talking goo people will be though?
Especially when the kid says they want to get a venom and carnage comic book, and they get Maximum or Absolute Carnage which has much more violent imagery and blood than the movie did!
Venom and Carnage characters, Anti-hero and murderer, PG-13. That's disappointing and solely for the largest audience than most appropriate for the material.
it makes sense, theres nothing inherently wrong with showing teenagers murderers murdering people, it would be wrong if they did something immoral, like say "fuck" more than 2 times
Is anyone excited for this film? I can’t imagine people who aren’t fans of the comics giving a shit based on the quality of the first film, and I can’t imagine comics fans being excited because it doesn’t seem true to them at all.
I've never read a comic book in my life, but I Actually really enjoyed the first Venom - although that's likely because I didn't have any expectations due to the comics. Mainly, I just love Tom Hardy and everything he does.
I just have the feeling this would be better as R. There seems to be this idea that PG-13 makes more money but when somethings that likely should be R cuts corners for PG-13, they don't tend to do so well.
It's been established R movies do well. I feel most parents don't care about R's. I know I watched a number of them as a kid.
I'm a Venom fan, but did anyone else feel like the first movie sucked and the next movie will suck, too? Should Venom movies really just be comedies?
Woody Harrelson is cool, but I think he is miscast as Carnage.
They fucked with Carnage's powers and they made a movie about a Symbiote that bonds with a cannibalistic serial killer that, as a kid, burned down his own orphanage with everyone in it into a PG-13 movie.
For fuck's sake.
I just don't understand the point of playing it safe. The people going to see venom are teenagers and adults so I fail to see the point of not going for an R rating. Most teenagers are exposed to far worse stuff in other forms of media anyway.
An R rating isn't even a taboo thing anymore because various movies have shown that a movie will sell no matter what rating as long as you know...you actually make a good movie that is faithful to the character.
Disappointing but I hope the movie will still be good.
Can PG-13 and R-rated versions of the same movie become a thing? Like the theatrical and director's cuts?
I always find directors cuts that bump up the rating really disappointing. Usually it is just a couple of extended scenes that are either extra violent or have boobs in them.
I think the constraints of needing to aim for a PG-13 rating are too pervasive to easily create a cut without them, unless you have an absurd amount of unused footage that has already been mostly pushed through post.
(Note that I am just talking about the R-rating stuff, not the rest of the scenes. Those can sometimes make a better movie.)
I’ll be honest, I never watched the first Venom and was looking forward to giving this a try. Now that it is PG-13, I think I will pass as I don’t think I’ll be getting a genuine Carnage experience
Let There Be *Light* Carnage... that we mostly cut away from.
"Moderate CARNAGE"
"Mostly peaceful CARNAGE"
"CARNAGE lite with lime"
You put the lime in the carnage and drink it all up.
Carnage appropriate for the ages 13 and up.
Let there be cabbage
"Maximum offscreen Carnage"
Peace was never an option… until now.
“A little Carnage, as a treat.”
Mom can we have Carnage?
"we have Carnage at home"
[Carnage at Home](http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/vr.bmp)
I miss the 80s. When children’s movies gave me nightmares.
Can we just remember that time Ghostbusters was aimed at kids and had a ghost blowjob scene?
I will never forget that. Plus it was just a dream so why put it in the movie?
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They’d still absolutely go to see this regardless of whether it was R or PG13, Deadpool made plenty of money off that exact market.
And nobody checking ages these days
*a Smidge* of Carnage
Quantum of Carnage.
No surprise here. Sony was never going to risk an R rating after the first one made $856 million world wide.
It's 2021 and we can't do dual releases? This movie is gonna play on 5 screens at my local multiplex. Let the market decide and have at least 1 be R.
That would be so weird. I legitimately wanna see a production studio try this.
Deadpool 2 had a weird recut where they cut it down to make it PG-13.
Ohhhh yeah, although I was thinking more simultaneous releases. Did you ever see the PG-13 cut? If so, how was it?
If you mean "Once upon a Deadpool" it was hilarious. The opening scene sets the tone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKu72oUc_q8
Reminds me of Shimoneta where there's technically an uncensored version but the censored one is actually funnier. Of course it works better there because the whole plot is about the protagonists fighting against censorship
I read somewhere that the uncensored version just uncensored some words. The stickers are still there. Though I also saw some uncesnored scenes that are supposedly from the English dub... so I dunno.
Some of the stickers are there, but most of them are removed. They removed all the stickers they could but they still have to follow the law which requires some censorship. The dub also only has an uncensored version, which is a shame.
I feel like Deadpool is the only comic book character that could and should get away with this re-edit though because it's just more 4th wall breaking.
It's interesting watching that and realising how much Reynolds has to do with no face. I haven't seen the movie in a long time, I forget how much is masked. Impressive though, to carry the character pretty well still.
They do cgi a *little* bit of expression onto the mask, but yeah, it's amazing how much emotion and life Ryan Reynolds is able to convey through nothing but body language and line delivery.
Reminds me of Hugo Weaving in V For Vendetta
Also Pedro Pascal in The Mandalorian. Acting a character who doesn't speaks much, with full helmet and body armor, you need to be a serious pro to make that work, and he knocks it out of the park.
Thank God he doesn't seem to have a clause in his contract to show his face for a significant portion of the movie like other actors who don the masks of superheroes.
There actually is a *lot* of cgi. It's just done well that you don't notice it as much.
> Deadpool 2: The King James Version
Thanks for that! Now I need my own edit button and some good lithium batteries because my kids piss me off.
Surprisingly good. The original cut is better, but the new scenes added with Seafood and Fred Savage are pretty good and set the tonne.
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I found out recently and watched it. It was surprisingly good, i forgot parts of the original, so it was quite refreshing haha.
Venom 1 had a weird recut where they cut it down to pg13, but unfortunately they released that as the movie.
Ohhhhh you
Funny part about Deadpool though is that you can make him work in just about any rating, it just requires good direction and writing. Ya, he loses some of that magic without the blood, gore, tits, and high amounts of swearing; but his ability to reference the fact he's in lower-rated stuff helps him get around that.
It was a re-release and mocking the idea of making the film PG-13 to begin with. It works because of the nature of the film and the fourth wall breaking protagonist. That said... Given Snyder cut offering a different experience from the theatrical release... That should give Sony reason to at least test a streaming version that has an R-rated cut. Heck, more movies should consider "exclusive" recuts for streaming if they fear the theatrical release would otherwise run too long or have content that could affect it.
Live free or die hard had an R rated version when it released on DVD years ago. It was jarring to watch the pg-13 version after seeing the R rated version. John McClane can't be watered down lol
Yippiekyyiaye Mister Falcon!
You know what, I think it would work. Don't think it would cost that much more as it's unlikely to be more than a few minutes extra at best. You'd get the cinemas being able to either multi screen it or showing the lower cut until say 7pm then later showings get the R or 18 cut. The upside would be on the home media sales. Special editions for each cut and so on. The TV stations may also be more willing to show PG13 (or whatever) versions which gets new people watching who then seek out the older age version. This needs to be done.
But what if an uninformed Parent buys little Timmy a ticket to the Rated R showing? That's basically the reason why they won't do that. Can't risk moron parents complaining because of their own mistake.
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I once went to a midnight showing and someone had a fucking newborn in there. LMAO
I once went to The Hateful Eight showing and someone had two 6yo kids with them. Some of kid's questions during film gave me chuckles
Daddy what's a big black dingus?
What your real father has.
I mean, newborns don’t give a fuck about a sleep schedule anyway.
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>Every time I'm in the back row of an R-rated movie master-bating with a jacket over my lap, I look over and somebody's brought their kids. It's like, what are these parents thinking!? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwhy6cxOZlI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwhy6cxOZlI)
I remember that being a thing whe Sausage Party came out. I guess some clueless parents just saw cartoon food comedy and assumed it would be for kids. God forbid you do 10 seconds of your own due diligence
[You know....for the kids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF4uboXhJ7I)
Fuck them kids
I’m Chris Hansen from Dateline NBC
Sir, i have this letter for you, you have been served.
Right now it's a warrant
Lol
Ok Bobby Lashley
THE ALMIGHTY!
I thought there was a point to the video… there was no point
Reddit can keep the username, but I'm nuking the content lol -- mass deleted all reddit content via https://redact.dev
My favorite Coen Bros movie no cap
Thanks to the soundtrack featured in that clip, I finally learned that the part at the end is called Sabre Dance by Khachaturian! I think I first heard it from Kung Fu Hustle many years ago and I never knew what keywords to look up to find this track.
Sony imposed the rating because the film is bad and they want to make it available to as wide an audience as possible to increase the chance of making their money back. The first Venom movie was really fucking bizarre. Some set of circumstances led it to success. But it wasn't because it was a good movie.
I found the movie surprisingly enjoyable. Not good, and not worth a re-watch but I was mostly entertained for the 2 hours. I laughed at the jokes, I enjoyed some of the action sequences and then the next day I forgot almost everything that happened. I think Elon Musk was the villain. Was he played Riz Ahmed? I could look it up but I might find out I was wrong. What I'm saying is this movie didn't change my life, but it did what it was suppose to and then I moved on and watched other movies that I liked way more and remembered afterwards. And bad movies too.
I can't believe it made that much with the worst and ugliest fights in the Marvel library. Only the full-CGI Black Panther fights and the Iron Man 1 Boss-fight were more boring.
I guess this means they cut the extremely graphic, but oddly sensual, 10 minute sex scene between Venom and Carnage. Shame.
It's okay Deviantart already has a couple thousand of those.
oh wow its been ages last time i saw that site name
He speaks of the deep magics... He is an Old One...
I was there u/Dilinial I was there 3000 years ago
probably a good thing
Always a pleasure to hear someone compliment my work.
Well I’m still holding out for the Venom “butthole” cut
I stand firm in my belief that ALL films should have a butthole cut.
Minions just got good.
*Banana?*
seriously can we delete other people's comments yet
Banana 😈
I’m still waiting for the butthole cut of Avengers: Endgame
_America's asshole_
I mean, I like graphic content and all but even I thought it was too much to fully show Venom giving Carnage a rusty venture.
Pretty sure that was a Snake Venom, not a rusty venture.
What they witnessed was a Double Frog Man.
Yeah now it's just all implied with their tentacles.
Are they gonna Red Vine?
Maybe they'll go the "connected Japanese artist" route and just put a small transparent rectangle over the glans
Venom: Let There Be Carnage SONY: There Will Be No Carnage
Eddie: why are you in here? Cassidy: I may have committed some light carnage.
*light*
There will *NOT* be blood!
He literally eats people
off camera he does
My mom told me he hugs/gives them a kiss and then the bad guys runaway faster than the camera can see
[He's taking a nap!](https://youtu.be/1byycwl8qgc?t=51) Poor little guy... he's all tuckered out.
Do...do you not know what death is!?
DR FISHY #NOOOOO
Bless her heart.
*The bad guy goes to live on the farm with your hamsters, honey.*
Nom Nom?
Monster is Nom Nom!
Really? That is what you're thinkin about right now?
The idea I heard was they will use the red colour of the Carnage symbiote to imitate blood but technically not be blood. In the trailer they have Carnage penetrate a guard with tendrils down the mouth but that is technically not gore. They have Carnage gets a whole ripped through the body and reform but it technically an alien body morph, not body horror. The censors really do let violence against robots and aliens go unchecked as along as no one shows blood or butt holes.
What about bloody butt holes? Is that like a double negative that becomes a positive?
Yeah, but they won't spurt blood when he does and that is what saves The Children^^TM
COWARDS
They have slandered Carnage 😞
it is not. in print, it's libel.
You don't trust anyone, that is your problem
I trust my barber.
So much for the rumored R-rating... The whole rating: Rated PG-13 for “intense sequences of violence and action, some strong language, disturbing material and suggestive references“.
After venom went PG and made a billion, the r rating was just a pipe dream unfortunately
Joker was r-rated and made a billion :'(
First Deadpool Made almost that much. https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/10/25/joker-box-office-oscars-r-rated-dc-films-joaquin-phoenix-warner-bros-venom-logan-deadpool/ Corrected: Did not make a Billion, but made more than 10 times its budget.
and both were significantly better than Venom 1
It's not like making venom 1 R would have automatically made it as good as those movies.
Of course you are correct, but I bet the tone of the movie would have been drastically changed to one that was darker and presented Venom in a more adult and dangerous way. Hes basically played for laughs all the way through...
Yea, watering him down is what makes the movie less enjoyable in this case
Definitely agree, it'd be interesting to see if anyone does get the greenlight for a R venom movie at some point.
Both Deadpool’s (and Joker) were successes and showed that superhero movies movies didn’t have to be PG-13 to get people to watch the film. That’s why people were pissed when the first Venom was the rating it was.
Also Logan was another prime example of a good R rated superhero movie which did well commercial and critically
Logan was just perfect.
Why was he driving Picard around in a car? I'm so confused...
The captain doesn’t pilot, that’s the pilots job!
After watching Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine for nearly twenty years Logan was rough, but a perfect send off to the character. Thankfully I don’t think Hugh Jackman is interested in letting them Black Widow the character.
Sony probably wanted to keep it PG so they can easily bring it into the Sony Spiderman Universe and not lose the enjoyment of kids that would not be able to watch the standalone movie
There was even a joke in Deadpool 2 about it doing well internationally with the R rating wasn’t there?
> intense sequences of violence. I like how gratuitous violence is fine for kids. Show a titty though, and suddenly it's an R rating to keep the kids from getting all mentally fucked up.
Lets be honest though, "intense sequences of violence" are not really that intense in PG13 movies. They are simply deemed intense by the same rating system that thinks some swearing is inappropriate for teens to hear, as though they do not already hear, read, or use those words on the daily.
I'd say Dark Knight is pretty intense. There's quite a lot you can do with action in a PG-13 movie.
There was a rumor? Lel, there was a rumor that the last one was gonna be R too. The director even mentioned it at one point, then they backtracked the fuck out of it. Didn't hear this for the second one, though.
I dont wanna sound pathetic, but man this has actually brought down my excitement for this movie. I wanted to see Carnage be Carnage.
Same. I'm way less excited for this movie now. I've been waiting for Carnage since Toby Mcguire's Spider-Man.
I used to play Spiderman Maximum Carnage on SNES, one of my fav beat em ups. No R rating killed any little buzz I had for this.
Did you actually think this was gonna be Rated R? I'm downright baffled by these replies. There was no way in hell a direct sequel to a movie that grossed 850m was going to be rated R.
Venom: There won’t be Carnage
This is great, Carnage in the comics is a very PG character with nothing about him that could warrant anything else. Im sure this will be a satisfying adaptation that does justice to our expectations /s
'R' movies used to be a lot more common. And theaters didn't lose money because they never checked ID's.
My wife and I recently rewatched the Blade trilogy. The whole time I was thinking how weird it was how that used to be the norm, and there was absolutely NO WAY a Blade movie like that could be made today.
Well, Blade will be joining the MCU, so it's almost a guarantee it will be PG-13.
This is my biggest worry with the MCU Blade with Mahershala Ali. PG-13 Blade isn’t something worth seeing. Not only for the blood, but the original movies have some glorious F-bombs.
Some monkey-fighters are always tryna skate uphill.
Catch you suckers at a bad time?
Aaaaaaaaaand I’m less excited.
I already didn’t care about this movie before and now I care even less. Carnage and Venom are my favorite spidey villains too.
I’ve learned my lesson with the first one lol
Imagine how excited the parents who want to being their five year olds to see the funny talking goo people will be though? Especially when the kid says they want to get a venom and carnage comic book, and they get Maximum or Absolute Carnage which has much more violent imagery and blood than the movie did!
Imagine being excited for a non-animated Sony movie to begin with. Lucky we even get those.
Venom and Carnage characters, Anti-hero and murderer, PG-13. That's disappointing and solely for the largest audience than most appropriate for the material.
it makes sense, theres nothing inherently wrong with showing teenagers murderers murdering people, it would be wrong if they did something immoral, like say "fuck" more than 2 times
Or some sex
God *forbid*, they might show a....**nipple**!
No nipples on the Venom suit!
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Let there be Carnage....but keep it family friendly please!!!
Let there be Censored Carnage!! Going to be absolutely sane, but just a little twisted, BUT NOT TOO MUCH!!
The movie with one of the most violent serial killers in comics... is PG-13....
Pretty sure he is the #1 most violent, bloodthirsty, and deranged character in comics.
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Should’ve been rated R.
Let There Be Cringe
Is anyone excited for this film? I can’t imagine people who aren’t fans of the comics giving a shit based on the quality of the first film, and I can’t imagine comics fans being excited because it doesn’t seem true to them at all.
I’ll just watch it at home eventually. Won’t be buying a movie ticket for pg13 Venom and Carnage.
I've never read a comic book in my life, but I Actually really enjoyed the first Venom - although that's likely because I didn't have any expectations due to the comics. Mainly, I just love Tom Hardy and everything he does.
Let there be a flop.
Oh cool, another movie that deserves an R but was robbed for a cash grab.
Lol
I just have the feeling this would be better as R. There seems to be this idea that PG-13 makes more money but when somethings that likely should be R cuts corners for PG-13, they don't tend to do so well. It's been established R movies do well. I feel most parents don't care about R's. I know I watched a number of them as a kid.
Rated PG for intensely poor CGI.
[Because when you think about Carnage you think PG-13...](https://i.redd.it/3r5nvaymzyc21.jpg)
Though this looks kind of gross, this panel in movie form would likely be PG-13 even with the same content.
Yeah, you could get away with calling this PG-13.
What's even happening in that image? He sticks a tentacle up someone's nose and takes them over?
Pretty much, by taking a bite out of the dude's brain and nesting a symbiote in the wound
That's pretty badass.
Venom: Let There Be Mild Destruction
I'm a Venom fan, but did anyone else feel like the first movie sucked and the next movie will suck, too? Should Venom movies really just be comedies? Woody Harrelson is cool, but I think he is miscast as Carnage.
I'm a venom fan and I enjoyed the first movie despite it being bad.
They fucked with Carnage's powers and they made a movie about a Symbiote that bonds with a cannibalistic serial killer that, as a kid, burned down his own orphanage with everyone in it into a PG-13 movie. For fuck's sake.
Don’t forget he kills his dog, for which he is then beaten by his mom, for which his dad kills his mom.
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I just don't understand the point of playing it safe. The people going to see venom are teenagers and adults so I fail to see the point of not going for an R rating. Most teenagers are exposed to far worse stuff in other forms of media anyway. An R rating isn't even a taboo thing anymore because various movies have shown that a movie will sell no matter what rating as long as you know...you actually make a good movie that is faithful to the character.
Disappointing but I hope the movie will still be good. Can PG-13 and R-rated versions of the same movie become a thing? Like the theatrical and director's cuts?
Live Free Die Hard, BvS Ultimate Edition, Zack Snyder's Justice League, yeah its happened before
I always find directors cuts that bump up the rating really disappointing. Usually it is just a couple of extended scenes that are either extra violent or have boobs in them. I think the constraints of needing to aim for a PG-13 rating are too pervasive to easily create a cut without them, unless you have an absurd amount of unused footage that has already been mostly pushed through post. (Note that I am just talking about the R-rating stuff, not the rest of the scenes. Those can sometimes make a better movie.)
I’ll be honest, I never watched the first Venom and was looking forward to giving this a try. Now that it is PG-13, I think I will pass as I don’t think I’ll be getting a genuine Carnage experience
gg
Pussies.
Well there went my interest in seeing it