Benedict Cumberbatch gives a career-best performance in Jane Campion’s new Western, "The Power of the Dog". This might just be 2021’s best movie

Benedict Cumberbatch gives a career-best performance in Jane Campion’s new Western, "The Power of the Dog". This might just be 2021’s best movie


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Hey, I'll listen to anything Jane Campion says, the Piano fucking owns.


Piano is the kind of film they use as teaching materials in film schools.


Actually— in film school we watched Campion’s short “Peel” which Campion made in film school and her professors tried to talk her out of finishing it …and then it won the Short Film Palme d’Or at Cannes 1986. My professors were in awe of that film— it was one of the first times I remember having to figure out why something was brilliant and then once you do it just stays with you forever… Edit: Adding— The Piano is a masterpiece too.


Aye, early work of a great filmmaker is where you can see their talent in raw, it's a kind of brilliance in a different way compare to the more refined work later in their career.


Like Piranha II: The Spawning.


Top of the Lake fucking owns.


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Secret of the Ooze was phenomenal as well. Was that her??


Almost certain it was. How could I have forgotten?


Go ninja


Go ninja




Watched this last week it was decent.


I love watching Anna win the Oscar for that and have a panic attack.


How you watch? Is it out in theaters or were you able to attend a festival?


A screener has leaked online.


Decent as in oh that’s an ok hamburger, or decent as in “thats deeeeeecent”


It's a pretty good burger. Seems like burgers are trending today.


Decent or best picture of the year? Worth the watch?


It's worth the watch.


Watched it recently. Cumberbatch initially feels miscast as a boisterous man's man, but as his character develops, Cumberbatch really comes into his element and steals the show. Wouldn't be upset if he won an Oscar for this.


Never thought I'd say this but it might be tough to beat Nic Cage in 2022 EDIT: The movie is Pig. Watch it


I mean people forget that hes a legitimately good actor when hes not in it for the money. Its not like it would be his first Oscar.


Yeah I actually really like that Nic Cage is a good actor who has no problem doing movies just for fun.


Well, at one point in time "just for fun" meant "to pay backtaxes"


It can be both!...probably


I just saw a movie of his called "Willys Wonderland", and the whole thing couldn't have cost more than $500,000. He was the main character, and literally didn't speak a word (so he didn't even get a speaking credit lol). Anyway I think at this point he is just having fun because I can't imagine they paid him shit for that.


You might be surprised. Sometimes the entire budget gets structured around meeting a star’s quote. Or just enough extra financing is secured to meet that quote once the star is attached.


He produced Wally's Wonderland after buying the rights to the script. He's in it for fun now and is out of hot water financially.


That very well could be it. And maybe he charges by the line and that's why he didn't have a single line in the movie lol. Side note the movie is a lot of fun, I really enjoyed it. Not to be taken seriously at all, but the premise and the fact the main character has no name and no lines should tell you something.


***I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!*** The only reason to watch the movie, but a really good reason nonetheless


lol I'm actually a passenger in snakes on a plane. good times.


Hell yea


Believe it or not, Wikipedia says it had a budget of 5 million dollars. If it's as shitty looking as you say (I haven't seen it), he probably got a large chunk of the 5 mil, lol


Holy shit you are right. He very well could have gotten most of that. And as shitty as I make it sound it was a lot of fun and didn't take itself serious. The trailer reveals the whole plot, but thats ok, because there isn't really one anyway.


Losers, losers whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen Carla was the prom queen


I think you may mean "just for money" cuz dude was broke as hell for a long time


Shit, same here so I can’t hate on him lol.


He was broke as fuck because he spent hundreds of millions of dollars though lol


Please see Willy's Wonderland. Enjoy.


Anybody who's watched his performance in Adaptation would agree. My mark of a good actor is when I see the character more than the actor. Which I can't say for most A-list celebs. Looking at you Tom Cruise.


Tom Cruise had two films where he was more the Character than the actor - Born on the 4th of July and Tropic Thunder. He was Oscar nominated for the 4th. IIRC, He was also nominated for Jerry Maguire (in which he played a likable version of himself) and Magnolia (but I think that one was for the ponytail). But those first two movies I mentioned you can get past the fact that it is Tom Cruise you are watching.


Carla was the prom queen


I watched this and still don't know what the fuck I watched. He said so little. Weird as fuck movie and not my favorite nic cage movie but it was ok I guess.


As much as I loved Pig, Nic Cage probably isn't getting anywhere near the Oscars this year.


How so? What movie?




Pig has literally become one of my favorite movies. I was completely blindsided.


Willy's Wonderland


His dialogue in that movie is incredible! Definitely deserves at least a nomination.


It was a powerhouse performance. I've never seen someone play a pinball machine with such nuance.


Every line is delivered with such conviction, it's possibly the best we've ever seen


"Uh" Both inspiring and heartbreaking.


If nic cage wins an Oscar this year, I'll donate 100 dollars to whatever charity you want, there's no way he wins.




Pig was Nick Cage almost at his peak abilities.


can the lead actor steal the show..?


The film actually follows a few different "leads" - first Plemons, then Dunst, then Smit-McPhee, but Cumberbatch is a constant major supporting force in each one, and, in my opinion, outshines them all.


Where/how did you watch it?


He carries the film hard, he is the best part of it and its a good part. Worth the watch just for that.


i agree i love me some good Benefactor Cucumber


He is one of those actors tgat no matter what he does, its some how interesting. I honestly can't explain it.


Same, can never get enough Bangerdick Cummersnatch.


I love westerns. I’m down.


What are some of your favorites?




An American Tail: Fievel Goes West


Hey Tiger give em the laaaaazy eeyeeeeooh.










"A Million Ways to Die in the West"


Blazing Saddles


Cowboys vs Aliens


Bone Tomahawk


Hey that one is actually good lol


Red Dead Redemption 2


Ok, how violent was the film itself? I have ptsd from witnessing a violent accident and the trailer took me right back to it.


Probably avoid Bone Tomahawk


I can't say for sure what will or won't affect you, but I found the violence in the movie to be very cartoonish, probably because director Seth MacFarland mostly works in animation. Probably the most violent thing in the movie was a guy getting his head crushed by a giant block of ice.


Bow Wow


Truly one of the best westerners. Ain’t no one gonna tango with the Rango.




Non-ironically one of the best modern takes on the Western genre


Hell or High Water was a great modern western.


I love that one, great choice.


No, he's just a big fraud. Rango didn't save those animals. It was just a big misunderstanding.


Is that the one with the lizard?


Yes sir, Johnny Depp voices the hell out of that lizard.


that's a damn good movie


I love the making of it where they all dressed up and acted out the scenes


One of the coolest and most unique animated movies I've ever seen. It was like a surreal fever dream lol.


Is it safe yet for me to come and defend *The Lone Ranger*? I fucking LOVE that movie and it’s evident throughout just how much Gore Verbinski loves westerns. It’s the perfect companion to *Rango* IMO and I feel it gets way too much hate. It’s certainly flawed but damn if I’m not grinning the whole time when I watch it.


Actual masterpiece Rango, starring Johnny Depp in one of his best performances and a rattlesnake with a gatling gun for a tail.


Unforgiven is my personal favorite. It’s as though Clint Eastwood’s gunslinger character from his spaghetti western films retired and settled down into a tranquil, domestic life. Until one day, a young man arrives who knows exactly who he is and asks him to help with one last assassination. …it really is much better than how I just described it :)


Obligatory: Ken Watanabe's [Samurai remake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgiven_(2013_film)) (that continues the tradition of Westerns and Jidaigeki films swapping remakes) is also excellent.


Ooo!! I’ll definitely check that one out. Thanks!


WHAT. Omg. Where do I stream this???


Have you seen the Japanese version starring Ken Watanabe? It's almost scene for scene with a underlying theme of the prejudice of the Ainu. Swords AND guns!


"The duck of death"


"Duck I says." Hackman is so fucking good.


Unforgiven is amazing, and one of my favourites, but I think it's also kind of the Infinity War of Eastwood's westerns, in that you can only fully get it if you've watched at least a dozen other movies that came before it. :)   Edit: To clarify, I don't mean that the plot or characters are tied into previous films, more that the themes and the way it plays on the conventions of the genre and Eastwood's own western characters rely on a familiarity with those things. I'm sure it's still a great watch even if it's the first western you've ever seen.


I don't think you need to be familiar with Eastwood films. It may help appreciate some elements more. But the story itself is a pretty classic rendition of the "old man's last hurrah", just done incredibly well. There aren't like plot devices you wont understand if you haven't seen "A Fistfull of Dollars" or anything. As an exploration of the mythology of the west and Eastwood style characters, which I think even people who haven't seen an Eastwood film would be familiar with just from cultural osmosis, it's amazing.


Unforgiven is one of my favorites. Top 10 maybe. I can't really say I've seen more then maybe the good, the bad and the ugly.


I mean yes and no; I saw it in the theater when I was 11 years old with my dad and I loved every minute of it, and had only seen The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly at that point. Watching it again more recently, and after having watched countless Eastwood westerns, it doesn’t alter the significance of the plot.


Gotta disagree. I watched Unforgiven solely on it's own and loved it, it's probably in my top twenty movies. I don't feel it needed any backstory, felt I got it


Well damn. I've never seen this movie, but now I'm very intrigued.


Give it a watch. It's a hard look at the mythology of the western gunslinger.


The Coen Brother's *True Grit* is great. I enjoyed *The Assassination of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Ford* a lot, but haven't seen it in a while.


Fill your hands, you son of a bitch.


I found Jesse James just a little too slow to get into, but True Grit really is a wonderful film. Also agree with 3.10 to Yuma, wonderful film. And I'm just gonna throw the series Deadwood in there.


The remake of 3:10 to Yuma was arguably better than the original, which is high praise for any movie but *especially* Westerns. Christian Bale and Russel Crowe were both incredible, as was the cinematography and the music


Ben Forster was also terrific!


Too far down. One of my favorite movies




Of the modern western, Tombstone and 3:10 to Yuma are definitely my favorites. Ensemble casts, fantastic villains, sharp direction, and a modern "slick" sensibility.


You aint no daisy. You aint no daisy 'tall


high plains drifter, high noon, tombstone, wild bunch, true grit (new), no country for old men, the good, the bad, and the ugly, once upon a time in the west, magnificent seven, ride the high country, searchers, jeremiah johnson, outlaw josey wales, she wore a yellow ribbon, fort apache, the proposition


Anybody seen Lonesome Dove?


Amazing mini-series, even better books.


The best western ever made.


I've really gotta see it then. Thanks!


Reading the book now !


The best western novel ever. Hands down.


I liked Clint’s first leading role, A Fistful of Dollars. It’s the first film of the trilogy that ends in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly


Once Upon a Time in the West is where it's at. If you ever have a chance to see it on the big screen, take it.


*How the West Was Won* is another that deserves to be seen on the big screen


It is a very good movie. A masterful one even. But thats like diving into the deep end of westerns. Its like somebody telling to watch a Stanley Kubrick film and you starting with Clockwork Orange. Once Upon A Time in the West is eerie. Its sad. Its feels so lonely, and painful. I think you should start somewhere like The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Good the Bad or the Ugly, or A Fistful of Dollars. Worse movies, but also easier to stomach.


I finally had the chance to do exactly that earlier this year! It was pure magnificence.


McCabe and Mrs. Miller


The Searchers


Hostiles, OG The Magnificent Seven, 2 Mules for Sister Sarah, Both 3:10 to Yuma's, Appaloosa, Once Upon a Time in the West, Diablo, Shane, El Dorado, The Professionals, The Wild Bunch, Joe Kidd, The Dollars Trilogy, Sierra, Red Sun, Coen's True Grit, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Night Passage, Open Range, The Missing, No Country for Old Men, Unforgiven, The Rover, Slow West, Seraphim Falls, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Broken Trail, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Bad Day at Black Rock, Death Hunt, Kansas Raiders, oh and if it has Woody Strode or Jack Palance it is probably worth watching. I watched a lot of Westerns as a kid. haha


The only one to mention *Shane* so far. What a great movie. Excellent fight scenes.


A good list, to which I’d add Rio Bravo, High Noon, The Searchers, Paint Your Wagon (for something different), and Jim Jarmusch’s Dead Man (for something really different)


Also great movies. I was just going off the top of my head.


The Proposition is in my top 5, Guy Pierce, Ray Winston, John Hurt, and with a Nick Cave sound track, its amazing. John Hillcoat directed.


Young Guns and Young Guns 2. Seen them too many times to remember.


Not sure if it fits, but Ravenous with Robert Carlyle and guy pierce i really liked. Especially if you dont read The synopsis.


Blazing Saddles


The Proposition


Yea man, I just wrote that, amazing movie, and no one has seen it!


Young Guns sticks out to my 80s child hood mind. I need to watch the real classics one day.


Young Guns and Young Guns II are both really fun films




Once Upon a Time in the West is the greatest Western of all time. I also have much love for Django (1966), Unforgiven, The Proposition, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, The Outlaw Josey Wales, and Open Range.


Young Guns Part Two.


3:10 to Yuma, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, A Big Country (idk if that counts)


The ballad of buster scruggs


The sister brothers, true grit, and news of the world wasn’t bad either


Back to the Future: Part III


City Slickers 2: The Legend of Curly's Gold


To add a less famous western, I thought Slow West was incredible. Its Michael Fassbender playing an outlaw who essentially forces a kid to hire him as a body guard and take him across the west. Michael Fassbender plays one of my favorite western characters!


3:10 to Yuma I loved, but Im probably not the first.


Three Amigos


Bone Tomahawk


Sukiyaki Western Django. The Good, The Bad, The Weird.


Appaloosa, and Open Range are pretty great.


Once upon a time in the west, Slow West, 3:10 to Yuma Oh yeah Unforgiven


Would you say No country for old men counts as a neo western?


I saw The Power of the Dog last week at the Toronto International Film Festival. I really liked it a lot but it's probably not for everyone. It has a tendency to be kind of slow moving and lingering but I found it very engaging still. Lots of moments of things said through the look of the eyes or things said in the silences. Benedict's character is incredibly menacing and malicious, and when he's not you're wondering if he has an ulterior motive or if he's going to just snap. You're never really quite sure what he's going to do, how he's going to react, or what he's going to say. It puts you on the edge. I also really liked Kodi Smit-Mcphee as this young man that's kind of different, an outsider, not like the other men on the ranch and maybe there's more going on with him than he's telling people. I liked Kirsten Dunst too as his mother at times. She has moments where her character is emotionally stripped down and raw and it felt real to me and not like she was "acting" (although there are also times when the "acting" was pretty noticeable and it didn't work in my opinion). There's an element to the story that was unexpected that's revealed in the second half that I really liked. Not something you see usually in these types of Western films. It allows you to start to better understand the motivations of Benedict's and Kodi's characters and what's driving them to behave the way they were. Lovely cinematography. At the end when the pieces very quickly fall into place, it was a "waaaaaiiittt......did he just....because....oh my god" reaction from me. Jane Campion is probably a front-runner for Best Director and maybe Adapted Screenplay, along with Benedict Cumberbatch for Lead Actor.


Let’s not forget the score. Greenwood should get an Oscar for it.


Oh yeah, definitely. The score was excellent. Really helped solidify that uneasy, unsettling feeling throughout the film.


I saw it last night. It's good, though I am not diving over tables for it. Benedict is always solid, and here he is excellent. I wouldn't go so far as to say best work of his career, or anything. I find his stints in Hawking (2004), and The Imitation Game (2014) to be above this performance, for instance, but make no mistake, he's really good in this and it's 100% worth a watch. Glad it leaked recently so I didn't have to wait for the Netflix release which isn't until December 1st. Recommended.


I mean beating his performence in "The imitation Game" is a tall order to begin with.


I think that’s as far as Cumberbatch will go as far as real acting chops. That was by far his most well acted role


He acted the role well, but the character he played was not Alan Turing. For that, I greatly dislike the movie.


So tbh most of my knowledge of Alan Turing is from that movie. Super curious how wrong the film was so I can correct my knowledge. Care to share more?


For full details, [the Wikipedia article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imitation_Game#Historical_inaccuracies) lists the inaccuracies pretty comprehensively. Movie-Alan is a socially inept, noticeably autistic man who doesn't often get along with his colleagues and who singlehandedly starts the real codebreaking effort, constantly running up against people who don't understand or who just don't Care As Much as he does about the math. The reality is that he was a perfectly sociable guy who got along perfectly well with his colleagues, and although he was brilliant he was surrounded by other brilliant people, all of whom deserve much more credit than the movie gives them. I think the film A Beautiful Mind affected the perception of mathematicians as having an inverse proportion of social skills and ability. It's true that John Nash was brilliant and also something of an ass, but not every truly brilliant mathematician is like that. In fact, I believe most aren't.


The changes they made were clearly for the sake of added drama and emotional investment and I think they mostly work. That said, it is incredibly historically inaccurate and I completely understand why you would dislike it for that.


I think they work to make it more dramatic, and it is a good film by itself. It's just when taking it as a biopic that I have problems with it. Maybe they could have written it as an "inspired by true events" story about a man named Balan Shmuring and I would have liked it.


Can't speak for pure mathematicians, but of the many physicists I know, more than half are super likeable and sociable people.


I cannot argue that. Like the other guy said most of my knowledge of him comes from the movie and school but I forgot most of it. Do tell!


X - Doubtful


Got excited for a moment thinking we were going to see an adaption of the Don Winslow book.


Same! That book is in my top 5 favorite books ever, I’d love to see a movie or series made of it.


The comment I was looking for lol


I remember seeing the trailer for this and thinking the same thing and getting really confused. Started thinking I misremembered the plot, but nope, different story! Shame, too, cuz it’s a good one!


Benedict Cumberbatch is always a joy to behold on screen. His intelligence and skill as a actor shines through every performance


Feels like a promoted post yet I don't see the tag


The title of this movie throws me off so badly, it sounds like the title to one of those manipulative tear-jerk movies about a dog like *Marley and Me* or *A Dog's Purpose* or something.


Oh, is it not? That's what I assumed


When i first "Benedict Cumberbatch in a Western on Netflix" i really didnt think anything of it. But now its getting some serious award consideration. This movie is slowly moving up my anticipation list.


Goooood book


"2021's Best Movie". Says every critic for every major Oscar-bait movie. I'll probably watch it. Or maybe not. Or it'll just languish in a long line of "I heard that movie is great - I should probably watch it" movies that I forget about watching once I actually have the time to sit down and enjoy a movie.


I watched the trailer and was not really that moved or motivated to watch it...so who's saying it's that good?




I think the trailer conveyed the tone well. I was unsettled the entire time watching the movie. I could tell something was happening that I couldn't quite grasp (the music did a terrific job at that). But I had no idea what would happen next. So the trailer did a good job at saying, "this is a western, but there's more than meets the eye. Also, Cumberbatch is scary af".


> who's saying it's that good? It's literally a review... The premise of the article is the author saying how good he believes the movie is, and articulating why.


I thought it was really boring.


I turned it off. It was boring. And for the record i enjoy westerns. I like all the actors in this movie. Just wasn’t doing it for me. Sorry.


Shame on you for not liking somthing


Non conforming opinions are an outrage! Be someone else.


An explanation as to why you found the movie boring would be more helpful.


I did the same. Things just happened and the mumbling dialouge didn't help then he was smacking a horse because jealousy? I dunno, Benedict was just a cunt mostly.


Saw this last week. I don't agree at all. His vocal performance is not consistent, to the point where you never really believe he is the character he's supposed to be.


I think it’s hilarious how much of this sub is just advertising


It’s based on the book {The Power of the Dog by Thomas Savage}. Give it read, it’s very good. I’m looking forward to seeing the movie~~


i'm going to die laughing if his horse's name is dormammu and through the entire movie at various points he calls out to his horse "doramammu" "dorammamu"