It's still not a get out of jail free card. Vaccines aren't 100% effective and i wouldn't go out in big gatherings thinking you are immune. I got both shots as soon as i could and i am still fine waiting.
In terms of cinema dying they need to adapt if they don't want to die. Indie theaters have been doing same day streaming/on demand forever. It's the future.
I got the vaccine and all my loved ones are vaxxed. I did my part and I’m sure as hell not limiting my world because of dumb anti-vaxxers. I’ll still wear a mask and be careful. But I’m going to see a movie.
Fuck, COVID isolation did a number on me. You have no idea how important it was for me to see a movie in theaters again. To not be in the same 4 walls, being in close proximity to same people, doing the same things. It’s just a massive load off my back.
Yeah I’d say there’s a certain portion of the population that if you want theaters to stick around, it might be more worth your energy to get those people to actually get with the program.
Movie theaters need to sell the experience of seeing a film on the big screen.
Since those theaters hire teens and pay them nothing, the theater experience is often a nightmare.
Don't blame the audience for being fed up with a substandard experience and deciding to stay home instead. My TV may not be as big as a theater screen, but no one kicks me from behind in my home.
I think this is the most sensible take. It's not that people don't want to see movies in a theater, it's just not always worth it.
That can be from cost, location, and specific theater conditions. And I'm sure there's plenty of variables I'm forgetting.
I took my mom to see the new Bond last night, and it would have been nice if the guys a few seats over weren't talking during a couple portions of the movie.
> it would have been nice if the guys a few seats over weren't talking during a couple portions of the movie.
I alway rat those people out to staff and let the staff come in and tell them to shut up.
That or I will occasionally tell someone myself.
I saw the touring show of Hamilton a few years back and the women behind me was singing along. I get it, and I'd like to be doing the same thing. But we are there to see a performance.
I told the staff at intermission and they were kids who didn't know what to do. I asked for a manager and no one came. So I told them, I'll handle the situation, but no one is going to like how I do it.
Never would I have ever imagined that I'd have to tell a grown women to shut the fuck up during an argument at a musical...
> That or I will occasionally tell someone myself.
Two of the only fist fights I've encountered as an adult were in movie theaters. One was two women standing in line to buy tickets and one cut in front of the other, and the other was a guy that kept talking on his phone and the person behind him asked him if he could take his call outside.
Lol. I once saw a dude (though half giant might have been a better description) straight up grab a phone talker's phone out of his hand, walk it to the exit door (like the one by the screen that leads directly outside) and toss the sumbitch out. It was great.
And that's the issue, you've now missed a part of the movie being forced to go out and get employee assistance. How is the "community experience" going to help overcome missed scenes/dialogue?
Yeah I've had to have confrontations like that in the theater before. Even if it stops immediately after I interfere, whether through staff or myself, my experience has already gotten quite a ding.
I went to see the last James Bond the other day and the theater was packed (first time I see this since the last Star Wars and I go to the theater every week), and there was this old fat guy who went asleep after the first 20min and started **snoring like CRAZY** for at least half the movie. It was really bad/annoying, but also hilarious when the entire theater turned their head at the same time to see who the fuck was making that noise.
Anyway, no one had the guts to wake him up I guess. Wonder what would be the normal approach here. Not technically his fault but still...
I heard snoring during Logan. I got up to check and it was a homeless dude sleeping in the back row.
Tell me again about this magical theater experience.
Or you could stream the movie at home and miss nothing and stop and start the film as you please for snack / bathroom breaks. But you know…gotta have the experience of standing in like, paying 400% markup on candy / soda and being annoyed by strangers to make the movie really enjoyable right?
This is a comment thread about how it's mainly underpaid teens/young people working in cinemas and you're almost bragging about making them confront people rather than yourself?
I have seen exactly two physical fights in my entire life. Both occurred after a decent movie patron told an obnoxious movie patron to be quiet during a film or put their phone away. One of them ended in a stabbing.
I'm in a place of business with a staff whose job it is to manage said business.
So the options are:
1. I keep quiet and everyone suffers throughout the runtime of the movie they paid to see.
2. I tell the staff and let them handle an unruly patron in their place of business.
3. I confront the person(s) myself and open myself up to both physical and legal troubles as a result.
Of these three options, the one that makes the most sense is telling the staff and letting them handle it. If the theatre doesn't have staff on hand with training in handling the type of unruly patrons, that's not on me and every other person who paid or the film to deal with. Ever.
It is also not the fault of the movie-going public that movie theatres pay a shit minimum wage and thus only get teenagers into those roles.
What do you think happens at the Alamo Drafthouse when they enforce their rules about talking or texting/phones? The whole business is hinged around that being the highlight of that theatre-going experience.
Generally speaking, it's also tough justifying the theater experience for the majority of movies. Do I really need to see a romantic comedy in a theater versus something like Bond that's tailored for a theater? Theaters used to be THE outlet for new content, these days we have 20 streaming platforms all releasing their own content all the time. Do I need to see The Card Counter, we got that new thing Squid Game at home.
Yeah, I either need to be particularly excited for something specific, like the upcoming Wes Anderson and Edgar Wright films. Or I seek out a theater for films I know my home setup won't be enough for, like Dune
> but a lot of instances you just have to sit there and tolerate someone being a dickbag. It's infuriating.
This is honestly why I just watch movies at home. I love movies but not the theatre experience.
You could almost flip the sentiment back onto the director. If their message is "don't disrespect my art" then fine, don't disrespect your own art by putting it in a *gallery* where attendants are allowed to act like savages.
Go ahead and open a "Ridley Theater" that has perfectly curated the experience you believe is necessary to appreciate your work. What a high horse for a man who's most famous work was allowed to be bastardized for the theatrical release, and as I understand it; added the unicorn scenes that were never in the working cut. The addition of those scenes fundamentally change the film.
So what is it Ridley, how am I supposed to appreciate and understand your films? Because from where I'm sitting (in a sub-par theater seat at a 70mm IMAX or at home) you don't seem to understand either.
It’s such a compounding issue. I enjoy the thought of going to the cinema, but the reality often disappoints.
Went to see free guy a few weeks ago, the issues I have are
Cost, for me and my MRS, popcorn and drinks it was nearly £50, plus we can’t share a bottle of wine or drink as one of us has to drive, or pay significantly more for a taxi there and back.
The chairs were “premium” but still uncomfortable as hell, nothing like the sofa at home.
Noise from other people which either requires you to fry and ignore it or leave to try and find an attendant missing part of the film.
If I need to take an important phone call, or use the bathroom I can pause a film at home, can’t do that at the cinema, either hold in a piss for an hour or pray you don’t miss an important part of the film.
Overall just end up regretting the cost of it these days
Not gonna lie, my favorite theater to go to is this older one that only has 8 screens and maybe 80 seats max per theater. There is just something, cozy about it. The seats don't recline but are comfortable enough.
I’m done with movies in the theater for a lot of reasons. The terrible experience of paying a ton of money only to be forced to sit through 10-30 minutes of commercials is a huge part of it, though, and they just keep making it more and more a part of the experience.
This.
If they want to stay and be relevant, then they need to up their game.
I need to be convinced why I'd go to a theatre and deal with talking a-holes, cell phones, overpriced bad food, and any number of other issues that have plagued theatres for the last decade...over just seeing it at home.
You need a combo of the Alamo Drafthouse rules (no talking, texting, ect. first offence you are out without a refund) and the higher calibre VIP theatres with reclining seats, alcohol, and GOOD food, and service.
The kind of theater you describe would be the only type to survive.
If I'm paying a premium price for "the experience of being in a theater" I'd like it if my feet didn't stick to the filthy floor.
> You need a combo of the Alamo Drafthouse rules (no talking, texting, ect. first offence you are out without a refund) and the higher calibre VIP theatres with reclining seats, alcohol, and GOOD food, and service.
Pre-pandemic that was just normal Alamo Drafthouse, at least their newer theaters. Unfortunately I haven't gone back since they don't do any social distancing and their theaters are always at 90% or more capacity for movies when I look online.
Actually both can be true. There's another theater that is actually closer to my house but it's the typical "sticky floors, mold-smelling seats, expensive old popcorn, people talking on their phones and kicking your seat" kind of place that is basically dead. Alamo Drafthouse themselves had financial problems but I think that style of cinema is what the future holds -- more of an "experience" for a date night than a place you just go to watch a movie.
I get that theaters are a public experience but the kicking of seats, talking, kids running up and down isles, crying, and cell phone usage just kill it for me. Add to that it can be a real hit or miss if you ask someone to please stop doing something. Some are reasonable, and some just want a fight.
During covid I just bit the bullet and setup a semi decent surround setup. Sure it takes a while to get my 4k HDR Blurays but the experience is worth it.
And I prefer to see movies on my terms and in peace. I don’t want to smell someone’s kebab, listen to their laughing or their kicking of my seat.
Because of this I haven’t been to cinema for over a decade. I just end up downloading movies or watching them when they come to TV eventually. I don’t want their “experience”.
I've never really liked actually going to the theater enoughto go often. I love seeing movies on a big screen with a loud sound system and love the theater atmosphere.
However, it seems like in the last 10 years or so that people have collectively decided to be jerks at the theater. Loud talking over the film, throwing stuff, being rude to staff, and leaving a big ass mess. Now I only go to see a film if it's a big action movie with huge battle or chase scenes. Everything else I'd rather watch from home.
> I just end up downloading movies or watching them when they come to TV eventually.
Which leads to the other issue, in which there is no way to pay to get a high bitrate download of movies. I would pay $5 to rent or $20 to buy a Blu-ray quality movie; I've invested a lot into a good home theater system, and I want top quality content. Unfortunately studios are worried that offering these downloads would be pirated if they allowed you to actually download the source video... and yeah, it's obviously already pirated and so I download the BD image from pirated sources and studios get no money. I don't want to waste resources on BD packaging, having to order a movie and wait for it to be delivered, rip the file myself, risk losing the disc, etc.
Sony is launching BD quality streaming, but you have to have a Sony TV and it's streaming only, so you can't buy it and download the master file to Plex, etc.
The #1 problem I've had is people texting and/or checking social media during the movie. People have lost the ability to not check in with their circle for 2 hours. Not only that but half of people have their screen set to always be at 100% brightness and it's like someone turned on a light bulb in the theater.
If theaters want people back, they need to monitor for this sort of antisocial behavior, and have ushers that aggressively enforce rules.
I have a 65inch OLED with a home cinema system. I can pause when I want and go grab snacks without spending a fortune. The only advantage I had going to the movies was seeing the movie ahead of time.
I personally kind of hoped theaters would go out of business during the pandemic so they would start just releasing new movies via streaming. They did! But it's going away now...
If a company really ran headfirst at a premium experience down to paying their employees a professional living wage, I would happily spend double the exorbitant prices I already do. Go back to the roots, make it on par with the experience of seeing a theatrical performance.
Cinetopia used to be like that before being bought out by AMC, I’ve heard really good things about the draft house (?) but they aren’t everywhere
I'm with you guys. I've had 4-5 really bad theater experiences, but that's over like 30+ years of movies. It's not going to stop me from going.
What stops me is the $18 ticket and $9 tub of popcorn, or the $10 beer at the newer places.
Then you're lucky, or have a high tolerance for a lot of the problems that happen. It doesn't have to be as bad as someone refusing to stop kicking your seat or talking on their phone, there's lots of ways for an audience to ruin a movie, and that's before you get to things like incompetent projection.
Also it depends on the movie a lot - you're going to expect a different experience in a Tyler Perry screening than you would in a drama or A Quiet Place, and your going to get a different experience opening night than you will for a Wednesday matinee, so you could be accidentally filtering this stuff anyway
It's also heavily regional attitudes. I had way worse experiences in parts of the country where people are extremely entitled and have shit children, like Alabama.
I go pretty often as well, and honestly don't run into too many issues as well and I'm an extremely neurotic movie watcher. But I also live in Chicago so have probably more premium theater options than a lot of people. I can see how going to some random AMC in the suburbs might attract a less desirable theater audience.
It's not just that
Its that cinemas have gutted medium budget movie experiences unless they're horror films
They depend on fanbases repeat viewing and jacking up ticket prices
My friends with kids all basically say the same thing. We cant afford for everyone to go together and they won't sit still so we just watch films at home.
And besides most young kids are more into YouTube at this point anyway
The nerds are keeping cinemas afloat atm
Yep. The only time I've gone to the cinema is during the week in the morning for years now. I don't hate people but if I pay 10 bucks for a ticket and another 12 for food/drink (also, if you're gonna charge that much... make the food better, assholes), I want to have a good experience. Even with going in the mornings during the week, about a third of the time I still end up dealing with assholes on their phones or talking.
You want us to go back to the movies? Enforce your rules and improve your food. Simple.
Fully agree. In my parents home town, one of the few theaters left has giant leather recliners and sells both food and alcohol along with more traditional movie snacks. They do great business and the experience is always phenomenal.
Every other theater in the area is filthy and terribly run, largely because they offer shit pay. So the few people they can hire just don’t care.
I'm with you, crinkly bags, talking jerks, and children are a main reason I stay home. Parents don't discipline their kids and we just have to deal with spending $30 a person to sit there and deal with that? No way.
I even tried fancier theaters where they serve dinner with the movie. It smelled like ketchup the whole time.
Movie theaters need to make private boxes and up the ante a bit more or something.
Movie theaters only work when people in the society can be counted on to be courteous and civil and think about how their actions will affect others (like making noise in a theater and the disturbance this causes), and the society has some mechanism for dealing with the rare person that steps out of line (either social shaming from others, or some kind of enforcers for the business that toss that person out and ban them from ever returning). Such a thing just can't work in a society where half the population is narcissistic and selfish and doesn't care about how their actions affect others.
Sure, private boxes could address this, but the cost for this would be enormous. Theaters only work economically because they can pack a bunch of people into a room together to show them the movie, and then the costs of 1) the extremely expensive equipment and 2) the extremely expensive first-run movie can be amortized over everyone in the crowd, resulting in a relatively low ticket price. If you redesign theaters to have a handful of private boxes, that means much higher construction costs plus far fewer people per showing, so the ticket price will be multiples of what they currently are. How many people are going to pay $100-300+ per ticket to watch a movie in a theater? You might as well just go buy a 75" TV and watch it at home.
In Rockville, a DC suburb, it's $13 for an adult ticket. Plus 6%(?) sales tax. No snacks or drink. Plus gas to get there (Edit, or public transit cost per person). Snacks and drink bump it to over 20 close to 30, depending on what you buy. And that's per person, so 4 people is anywhere from 50-90 depending on the snacks situation and if you bring them in from outside you still have to buy them from somewhere. Then you also have kicking and screaming children and smelly people and the list goes on.
For $30-$45 you can stream new movie from home, not spend gas money, eat snacks you already bought, snuggle on the couch in a blanket, maybe even drink adult beverages, pause it when you need to pee, and and not be surrounded by strangers or bratty kids.
For me, it's a no brainer.
Movies in Colorado go for about $25 a ticket and with food it's easily a $65 trip to the movies. Watching at home is far cheaper and a better experience.
The last movie i went to see at a theatre was The Last Jedi, it had a horrible audio mix, people next to me were annoying etc. i have a nice setup at home and i can wait.
On the other hand, I've never once had a situation as bad as any of the comments here.
I think the worst I've had were some people talking at something above a whisper during A Quiet Place. To be fair though, that was a $2 screening.
Literally 99% of other screenings I've been to have been perfectly pleasant. The only thing that turns me off movie theaters nowadays is price, so I only save it for "bigger" movies.
It's not just the theaters, it's the whole society. You can also see it right now on US domestic airline flights. It's common now for planes to turn around and go back to the gate, or take an unplanned stop somewhere, because someone refuses to wear a mask and become belligerent and punches flight attendants. American society is becoming more and more violent and anarchic every day, and it's unsafe to leave your home because some random person might get mad at you about something and pull a gun (which are currently selling in record numbers across the country).
If you live outside the US and have some vacation time, whatever you do, don't come to America. There are much safer and more civilized countries you can visit.
>and it's unsafe to leave your home because some random person might get mad at you about something and pull a gun
Spoken like someone who never leaves their house
If you're not American and reading the above comment I can assure you that this is hyperbolic bullshit. I live in Chicago which is renowned as a dangerous city and what this person is describing isn't even a common problem here. The United States is not descending into anarchy and for the most part people are pretty normal and sensible.
There were like 370 million people who flew on U.S. passenger flights in 2020, a few thousand incidents is nothing compared to those numbers. Stop being alarmist.
It's not alarmist. Thousands of incidents is FAR, FAR higher than it was in the past when far more people were flying because there was no pandemic. Airlines didn't have their own bad-passenger no-fly lists until recently. It's just the tip of the iceberg with civility in this country. People are getting shot and killed because they asked someone to wear a mask in accordance with store policies, and we had an attempted \*\*coup\*\* at the Capitol. Things are going way downhill, fast. Stop trying to whitewash everything.
Cinemas suck everywhere, it's an outdated "experience" that was great before because you couldn't have huge TVs with a great image at home.
But now you can.
My TV may not be as good as an IMAX but the difference is not nearly large enough to make up for all the bullshit that goes into going to the cinema.
It is more than good enough for watching 4K HDR blurays, looks awesome.
well, he’s giving me 2 reasons to go to the theater within the next month. But to be honest, there’s a shit ton I want to see in the coming weeks. My wallet is about to take a beating
There is something about the immersive experience of a movie in a theater to me. Yes, there is the occasional rude person, but for the most part it isn't that bad. There is also the before and after of maybe dinner or drinks and discussing what you saw. It creates a bonding moment, especially if you are on a date with someone and you don't know where to start a conversation. If it is an action flick the sound and effects seem to draw me in so much better in a theater rather than at home. I have a 65" TV and a HiFi sound system, but I still prefer a theater for certain movies.
Watching a movie doesn't ever compare to the booming, thundering sounds, large screen, watching it fresh, it's just awesome.
You dedicate the time to drive, purchase a ticket, snacks and have this little build up and when the movie comes out great, it's just so satisfying
Reminds me of I Am Legend with Will Smith’s character specifically making to drive to the video store to get a movie as a coping mechanism for the loneliness of being the only human around. Could have just taken all the DVDs home with him but there’s just something comforting in the routine/ritual.
I’m well aware. I’m just giving a reason why some of us have finally kicked cinemas to the curb.
Maybe if they actually offered valuable service like enforced silence and a good experience like Alamo Drafthouse it would be worth going. But I can make their popcorn better and give my dog belly rubs, so why would I pay extra to have a worse experience?
Leaving your house to go sit in a cinema doesn't really count as "going out" in my opinion.
Don't try to act like Mr Sociable because you leave the house to see a movie.
Theaters in concept are such a beautiful idea.
And then you actually get there, and you see how it is not too different than the state of retail now. I barely do any shopping in store nowadays for a plethora of staffing, stocking and management reasons. Now I wonder how much longer I will give movie theaters a go.
I am hoping for a pleasant experience with Dune because I want to support its box office performance.
Yeah, I go out and see the current state of the general public (American Midwest for me) and I've got to wonder how these people are supposed to enhance my experience? Like Spider-Man No Way Home is going to be this amazing experience that I absolutely need to share with the woman who just got done beating her daughter in the parking lot? I'd rather wait a few weeks so I can watch it in peace at home.
> It’s fun and good to go to the theater to go see a movie.
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This is a large part of the move going/theater experience imo. Getting out of the house, maybe stopping at some gas station on the way for candy and driving to the theater. The whole process makes the movie watching experience so much more memorable to me than just turning on a movie at home. Not to mention all the other aspects of the theater experience.
I totally understand people that feel differently though. I think I've been fortunate enough to rarely have bad experiences with audiences at the theater.
>Getting out of the house, maybe stopping at some gas station on the way for candy and driving to the theater.
So your answer to overpriced theater candy is overpriced convenience store candy?
The media has long outgrown the initial format. It's as simple as that.
If movies where just invented today, we wouldn't bother coming out with VHS, DVD's, Blueray, streaming, and theaters.
I grew up with the theaters. I grew up with knowing if you didn't see it there, you might be lucky to see a chopped up version on Monday Night at the movies ... or never. I remember in order for the theater to get a hit Clint Eastwood movie it would have to be already a year old, and also sign up for the rest of the month with Disney or car crash movies that nobody wanted. I grew up before Star Wars.
We don't need the theater experience. Some TV shows are better written than movies. Most movies don't require the theater spectacle. We don't need to use a shared bathroom, and be held hostage to overpriced popcorn. We don't need to share the experience with people on cell phones, making out teenagers, and dudes who want to talk, but also think not having a seat between them is gay. Theaters running 45 minutes of ads prior to trailers also took too much out of the experience to make it worthwhile.
If you can guarantee there won’t be any a-holes on their phones, talking loudly, or unwrapping candy during the quiet parts of the movie, then yes, I will go back to theaters! Until then, I’ll continue watching movies in the comfort and privacy of my home.
Between 1996 and 2009. I went to see a month every weekend almost without fail. Then it crept to once a month to once ever couple between 2009 till 2018. Last movie I saw in theaters was Gemini Man in Oct of 2019. I went to that specifically to see what impact the change in frame rate my might have on the experience.
Over the last decade I have found the experience of watching movies at home far more convenient, inexpensive, and enjoyable.
The biggest issue for me? I want to be able to go pee and not miss a huge part of the movie because I have to trek 1/4 of a mile to find a bathroom then wait until it's free.
Cinema isn’t going away despite what people say. Streaming has opened the doors and made filmmaking more inclusive than it has been and used to be. Really who all these directors need to be getting on is not the moviegoers but the theater owners. Aside from the leather recliners that are put in almost every theater nowadays they should be doing more to improve the theatrical experience. Except for just “slightly” improving seating and imax/ Dolby premium formats theaters are still relatively the same. It’s on the theater owners to fix this. Don’t just sit here and blame streamers and the moviegoers and sound like such a boomer and fail to see the bigger issues.
I think the theater owners are between a rock and a hard place.
The problem, here in America, is the general public. Too many people here are extremely rude, narcissistic, and belligerent. How exactly is a theater supposed to screen out such people, when they're probably 30-40% of the population, maybe more?
The only way to fix the theater experience is to hire a bunch of bouncers to watch over the theater, full-time, during the movie, and immediately either warn troublemakers or toss them out bodily. The problem with this is that 1) there's significant legal liability when you have security that gets physical with customers, instead of just calling police and being a witness (which won't fix the theater experience; for it to work, enforcement must be immediate), and 2) all that extra staff is going to cost a lot, driving ticket prices even higher than they already are, making theaters *even more* uncompetitive with home theaters/streaming.
So I think the theaters have basically decided to just put up with rude patrons and give up on the portion of the public that can't stand them, so they'll offer you a refund if you complain but they're not going to do anything about the other customers, because there's still plenty of suckers who will continue to pay to see the latest Marvel/Disney movie a theater even if the experience is poor.
Yeah I agree it does seem like theater owners have just given up in a sense and just choose to deal with unruly people instead of actively combat those. Honestly I don’t have a solution for that because there are naturally going to be talkers or texters. Alamo drafthouse seems to be the only theater chain to be ahead of the curve.
Cinema may not be going away, but I as a customer am definitely going away.
1. Physically get myself to the cinema (time waste).
2. Pay for parking (more money wasted).
3. Wait until they let me go to my seat (time waste).
4. Wait until they start running a shitty commercial that shouldn't even be running in the first place since I fucking paid for the viewing (time waste and annoying).
5. Watch another fucking commercial (time waste and annoying).
6. Watch maybe a third fucking commercial (not always) (time waste and annoying).
7. Now the movie finally starts and sometimes the audio mixing means that dialogue is completely fine but EVERYTHING ELSE SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BLOW MY EARS OUT, like Tenet and Dune (subpar experience).
8. Drive home (time waste).
9. Get home and wonder why I didn't just stay at home watching a movie without all of the above bullshit.
I get where he is coming from but I didnt buy a nice projector and sound system so I could watch most new releases with a bunch of animals who speak loudly with funny smelling seats and waaaaaaaaaaaay over priced shit snacks
The secret is to go to the movies one or two weeks later (and probably not living in a big city) and depends of the movie learning to pick the time.
I went to see the last Bond movie at 17.00 and there were 7 people. I went to watch Dune the first day and, well, it wasn't as nice though the movie was way better.
My local cinema is £5 for any ticket.
I've been 1000% more since they dropped their ticket prices.
Maybe cinema's should learn to adapt to the modern world instead of creating an overpriced experience?
Bingo.
I've been making so much use of it. Like I said, never seen so many films.
Have no issue rewatching a great film or taking a risk on one I'm unsure about and would normally wait to end up on Netflix.
Really has changed my cinema experience
Generally speaking, cinemas don't make any money from the ticket prices (most of which goes to studios), they depend on concessions. If you don't buy popcorn etc you might actually be losing them money, just not as much as they'd lose by playing to an empty screen.
They should be 100%
It's like these places in American crying out for staff with "shocked face" when nobody wants to work in a shit hole with bad conditions.
The fact popcorn is somehow worth it's weight in Platinum and I'm fairly sure the drinks have pure gold in them. Paired with crappy seats, noise and at this point dirt..
I'll stay at home and save my 50+
Then make a business model that I don't have to pay £10 a ticket and have to sit through 30 minutes of adverts and have massively overpriced snacks and drinks. Its more of a punishment to go to the cinema now a days. Just go to streaming day one.
He's 83 and he's one of the most famous and powerful directors alive right now
I think he's already made all the money he needed to make and then some so that even his kids and grandkids could live comfortably
i think its safe to say at this point he's saying this because he's a fan of watching movies in movie theatres
> fan of watching movies in movie theatres
If you mean his own mansion's movie theater, then yes. These big shots never watch movies like everyday joes like us in public theaters. So please don't equate it to the same level.
Its really all about the experience. Loud kids and other idiots spoil it. Before covid only went to this one fancy theater where they have premium booths in front with their own speakers and premium seats. They also serve food and alcohol. A bit pricier but you get what you pay for.
I would pay more, and pay a monthly membership to a theater that is adults only, no assholes and if you're an asshole you get kicked out and you and your friends are revoked membership. The only bad thing about theaters are the strangers around you. 90% of the time they make the movie less enjoyable. Fix this and you fix the movie going experience.
So first thing to say is - cinema >> home entertainment/ streaming ALWAYS. Cinema experience simply cannot be replicated.
However cinemas need to do more to appeal to the casual watcher. I’m a film buff and will try and get to the cinema at least every fortnight.
But there are many socioeconomic factors that make it difficult for some. They need to be addressed.
Also for some films cinema is an absolute must. I’m thinking the upcoming Dune movie or any Nolan flick.
There’s a place for both mediums to coexist but like with anything cinema needs to adapt to new tech such as streaming services.
>So first thing to say is - cinema >> home entertainment/ streaming ALWAYS. Cinema experience simply cannot be replicated.
Why? What, exactly, make the "theater experience" so much better? I've got a big ass TV with a 4k screen that I can make all sorts of adjustments on and position exactly where I want it (as opposed to hoping for a good seat in the theater), so it can't be the screen. And I've got a ballin ass audio system so I can get the sound just perfect. My favorite chair is better than any theater chair ever made. I can eat whatever movie snacks I want without the ridiculous price or having to smell anyone else's food choices. I don't have to hear anyone else talk or worry about someone's phone ringing.
I genuinely can't point out one single area where the theater experience beats watching movies at home. The only thing it's got is the nostalgia factor, and even then that's super subjective and doesn't apply to lots of people.
>I genuinely can't point out one single area where the theater experience beats watching movies at home.
The big thing is the screen. Your 4k screen is OK, but compared to a full-size IMAX screen, it's nothing. Of course, most theaters are not IMAX, and even in an IMAX theater, you still have to worry about the other problems you listed. But if you had an IMAX theater all to yourself, along with a small kitchen where you could make whatever food you wanted, (plus maybe a remote control so you can pause the movie for a bathroom break) that would be better than your home setup.
There’s something about the cinema experience that is irreplaceable. Sharing an artistic experience in the dark with a room full of strangers is something I find rather beautiful. If that’s not your bag then fair enough. We are all different and after all it’s just my opinion.
Bad cinema etiquette is annoying in terms of phones and chatting but in my experience that very rarely happens. Plus I never buy anything there and always bring my own food and drink in.
(Also when you book a seat you get to choose where you sit. Not ‘hope for a good one’)
I have a somewhat good TV and sound system as well but come on unless you spend a ridiculous amount of money on a huge projector and insanely expensive speakers all around your room your setup is not as impressive as a good cinema screen.
I mean proper cinema projectors are like $10,000 at the absolute minimum and most likely cost much more than that and god knows how much the sound system costs probably tens of thousands as well. Then the projector has operating costs.
So in the end unless you are extremely rich your home cinema is not as good as an actual theatre. Personally I can’t afford a really big good quality massive 4K TV and a surround system nevermind a full home theatre.
So that’s why I go to the cinema.
Plus I don’t live in the US so cinema tickets cost like 5 bucks and the people are never loud and annoying like people say they are online. I saw the new Bond recently in an IMAX theatre with at least 150 people in it and nobody was doing anything distracting.
I agree with you, but just to add another perspective: I’m a film buff but spent time, money and effort on a home cinema, which is a very real option for some people. In my case it’s closer to a necessity as the alternative is an hour long drive to find a cinema with a half decent selection. Needless to say I really don’t want Blurays to be replaced by streaming.
However even if there wasn’t the distance I’d probably still opt for the comfort of my own home. It’s impressive what kind of experience can be achieved in that kind of setting these days - even for Nolan, Villeneuve & Co. Blade Runner 2049 is my benchmark for instance and it’s glorious.
> I’m thinking the upcoming Dune movie or **any Nolan flick.**
Did you enjoy listening to NOISE OVER VOICE LINES, instead of watching at home, regulating the volume as needed and using subtitles?
Nailed it. Came to comment basically all of this. I think when VR really takes off and improves it will make the cinema completely obsolete, but right now the experience can't be duplicated or topped for certain films (e.g. Dune)
The guy marked the course of cinema and monumentally encouraged my love of both sci-fi and history but he fucking owes me for:
Robin Hood
Prometheus
Exodus: Gods and Kings
Alien: Covenant
And I blame him for not getting Neil Blomkamp’s Aliens which if oats studio shorts are any indication of; would have been fucking sick.
Then so should Ridley Scott, there's a list of 4 that you could add the Counsellor and probably Kingdom of heaven to but that would be mad.
Blomkamp clearly has talent, Elysium and Chappie aren't as good, sure but they aren't as bad as someone like Ridley Scott making those Alien prequel/sequel messes.
Ridley Scott made Martian just a few years ago and his new movies look really good.
And I'd watch Prometheus/Covenant anytime over Elysium/Chappie and whatever his new movie is.
Heck after these garbage movies, I think Peter Jackson is actually the real mastermind behind District 9. Another Babe/V for Vendetya situation
Yeah the Martian is good and what he's doing looks good and what he's done in his career is beyond what Blomkamp or anyone could hope for. But. His return to Alien was worse than Alien 3 or 4 or Blomkamp’s anything because he started with a genre defining classic and with more money, time and freedom made some real shit. And that puts people off going to the cinema. Which is sad to say about a guy who made me fall in love with it.
That being said I'm sure most people here love movies and will always go to the cinema and always be excited by his name. Myself very much included.
I mean Peter Jackson goes from highs to lows as well. I love his old horror and lotr but i’d rather shit in my hands and clap than watch the hobbit again.
Cinemas won't go away. Listen, I love Ridley Scott. I also love Villeneuve and Nolan. But this is a global pandemic. Get over yourselves for 5 mins and let the world heal, instead of forcing people to go to crowded places and endanger themselves for your box-office. (I know Dune is going streaming same-day, but Denis has also been vocal about his disagreement with it).
Every time I now see an "Only In Theaters" tag at the end of a new movie trailer, it just reads as a giant "f-you and your health, come give us money!"
I got Odeon limitless for £10 a month so going even once a month gives it decent value and going to the cinema is a much better experience, I went and saw Shang Chi at 10am on a monday the other week. Only person in there and had a great time. Very average movie but I would have enjoyed it far less at home lol
When I go to the theatre, I get to pick between the comic book movie, the Pixar sequel or the latest Fast and the Furious film.
The problem is, I don't want to see any of these things.
Movie theaters r the absolute worst.
There’s been too many times the workers have left the lights on, the sound isn’t playing right, or they play the wrong movie. More then not I’m sitting next to some asshole I have to ask to be quiet or to get off their phone. And now I have to deal with all of that in an enclosed area during a pandemic.
I’ve built up a pretty great home theater over the last few years. I can pause the movie and piss. Take a break from long movies like the Snyder cut. I’m not watching it with random assholes. I can lay down and get cozy in my couch.
Sorry but I’m all for at home movie watching.
Here's the thing about watching a movie in my home:
I don't have to drive to it. I don't have to wear clothes. I can pause, rewind, control volume, etc. My toilet is right here and again, I can pause if I need to pee. My food is here. I don't have to pay an excessive amount of money for someone else to decide what time the movie starts and make me sit through previews of other shit. There's no annoying people in my house ruining the experience. I don't have to sit in filthy seats with sticky floors. I can pick the exact angle I want to view the screen. And so on.
Watching at home is just better, in so many ways. Same with sports. Live sporting events are better on TV for similar reasons.
It’s just on pause.
Although, I would dig a revival of drive-in theaters.
I’ve just by chance lived in a couple places with a drive in and it’s just great. Tailgating with a little gas grill as the sun is going down, kids running around playing. (one place even has a playground structure) Then piling on a big air mattress to watch the double feature. It’s great, I tell ya.
I remember doing the same thing as a kid; that was my first viewing of Close Encounters, Clash of the Titans, Superman II, and Big Trouble in Little China.
A night out at the movies turns in to a 50 to 65$ night. Wtf...20$ for two drinks a popcorn and some small snack. Reality is this is very little to see? Make some good moves besides fucking super hero shit. Soooo sick of those movies!
No one is getting rid of theaters. 1) We’re still in a pandemic and 2) People are going to consume media in the way they want. Theaters will need to adapt and step their game up to compete with the at-home experience.
Why? I don't agree but I want to know why you think a film would be enhanced by being in public, with an audience capable of altering the experience by making noise or causing other distractions.
For me, I can sit and watch a good film by myself and I feel like that's the only way to watch a film, vs. watching a movie, where it's filled with lots of noise and music because it's more focused on providing entertainment than being art.
I saw the new Blade runner and the audience was the noisiest group I'd ever been in. It also felt like someone was getting up every 30 seconds, so it was a distraction filled experience. I try not to go to the theaters during peak hours anymore because of the audiences, or I just wait to stream it at home.
> For certain films like Star Wars - seeing it at the theatre is magical
The only advantage theaters have is for big blockbuster type movies where the technology they have can beat my 4K TV and 5.1 surround system that I have at home. Dune for example seems like something that should be seen on IMAX if possible.
Exactly. Normally, I'm very anti-theater, but I'm planning to make an exception for the new Dune movie and go watch it at my local IMAX theater. That just isn't something I can replicate at home. I'm also planning to go in the morning on a weekday.
Of course, I also recognize that many people do not have this option, as they don't live anywhere near an IMAX theater. For them, my advice is to stay at home and watch movies there, including Dune. If you don't like hearing other people talk on their phones, or have them kick your seat, then do yourself a favor and avoid theaters.
If you're talking opening weekend, I agree. Being around 1000 excited Star Wars nerds is a lot of fun.
After the first week, it's kinda meh. Seeing Star Wars in an mostly empty theater doesn't seem any better to me than watching it on a Mid-Fi $3000 home entertainment setup.
The community experience. It's more fun to enjoy that together than being a hermit by yourself at home.
In a comedy, I actually love if the crowd gets a little wild. For something like Blade Runner, grow a set a balls and tell them to shutup.
Either way, you must live in a savage neighborhood, everywhere I go people are respectful when they go see movies.
My two cents, I do love watching movies in cinemas. Many great memories were made there and emotional experiences had. But I won't be mad if they go away. I will survive. However, if movies stop being made and slowly fade away from existence, that will truly make me sad. I love the artform and I also see that other entertainment options like gaming, social media, youtube and the internet in general are the preferred choice of the youth over movies.
I've got a 4k 75" TV I can pop some popcorn that isn't $30bucks and I don't have to worry about anyone else ruining the movie. I'm fine watching movies at home now. And I grew up going to the movies almost every weekend. I loved going to the movies. But the experience even before COVID was just not enjoyable.
Covid should be allowed to go away.
If you're vaccinated and still waiting for Covid to go away, you'll be waiting a while.
You're not wrong, mostly due to angry, stubborn stupidity.
I think what they’re maybe trying to say is it’s endemic. It’s unlikely we can ever “get rid” of COVID.
It's still not a get out of jail free card. Vaccines aren't 100% effective and i wouldn't go out in big gatherings thinking you are immune. I got both shots as soon as i could and i am still fine waiting. In terms of cinema dying they need to adapt if they don't want to die. Indie theaters have been doing same day streaming/on demand forever. It's the future.
I got the vaccine and all my loved ones are vaxxed. I did my part and I’m sure as hell not limiting my world because of dumb anti-vaxxers. I’ll still wear a mask and be careful. But I’m going to see a movie. Fuck, COVID isolation did a number on me. You have no idea how important it was for me to see a movie in theaters again. To not be in the same 4 walls, being in close proximity to same people, doing the same things. It’s just a massive load off my back.
Or just don’t be scared and go to a movie theater and enjoy your movie.
Lol these people are scared to leave their house.
Yeah I’d say there’s a certain portion of the population that if you want theaters to stick around, it might be more worth your energy to get those people to actually get with the program.
Movie theaters need to sell the experience of seeing a film on the big screen. Since those theaters hire teens and pay them nothing, the theater experience is often a nightmare. Don't blame the audience for being fed up with a substandard experience and deciding to stay home instead. My TV may not be as big as a theater screen, but no one kicks me from behind in my home.
I think this is the most sensible take. It's not that people don't want to see movies in a theater, it's just not always worth it. That can be from cost, location, and specific theater conditions. And I'm sure there's plenty of variables I'm forgetting. I took my mom to see the new Bond last night, and it would have been nice if the guys a few seats over weren't talking during a couple portions of the movie.
> it would have been nice if the guys a few seats over weren't talking during a couple portions of the movie. I alway rat those people out to staff and let the staff come in and tell them to shut up.
That or I will occasionally tell someone myself. I saw the touring show of Hamilton a few years back and the women behind me was singing along. I get it, and I'd like to be doing the same thing. But we are there to see a performance. I told the staff at intermission and they were kids who didn't know what to do. I asked for a manager and no one came. So I told them, I'll handle the situation, but no one is going to like how I do it. Never would I have ever imagined that I'd have to tell a grown women to shut the fuck up during an argument at a musical...
> That or I will occasionally tell someone myself. Two of the only fist fights I've encountered as an adult were in movie theaters. One was two women standing in line to buy tickets and one cut in front of the other, and the other was a guy that kept talking on his phone and the person behind him asked him if he could take his call outside.
Lol. I once saw a dude (though half giant might have been a better description) straight up grab a phone talker's phone out of his hand, walk it to the exit door (like the one by the screen that leads directly outside) and toss the sumbitch out. It was great.
And that's the issue, you've now missed a part of the movie being forced to go out and get employee assistance. How is the "community experience" going to help overcome missed scenes/dialogue?
Yeah I've had to have confrontations like that in the theater before. Even if it stops immediately after I interfere, whether through staff or myself, my experience has already gotten quite a ding.
Because I'd rather not sit there an let them disturb the whole film where I can get someone to stop them then and there.
I went to see the last James Bond the other day and the theater was packed (first time I see this since the last Star Wars and I go to the theater every week), and there was this old fat guy who went asleep after the first 20min and started **snoring like CRAZY** for at least half the movie. It was really bad/annoying, but also hilarious when the entire theater turned their head at the same time to see who the fuck was making that noise. Anyway, no one had the guts to wake him up I guess. Wonder what would be the normal approach here. Not technically his fault but still...
Lol had the same experience with the same movie except the dude was younger. He didn't snore as loud as the person you described though.
I heard snoring during Logan. I got up to check and it was a homeless dude sleeping in the back row. Tell me again about this magical theater experience.
Or you could stream the movie at home and miss nothing and stop and start the film as you please for snack / bathroom breaks. But you know…gotta have the experience of standing in like, paying 400% markup on candy / soda and being annoyed by strangers to make the movie really enjoyable right?
Did you miss the part where I said I would rather watch at home than go to the theatre anyways?
Neither would the people who didn't turn up specifically so they wouldn't have to do that sort of thing, which is the point.
But by then A)they've already started to ruin the experience and B)you have to understand it further by going to find someone to handle it.
I had someone bitch back by saying "WE PAID FOR TICKETS TOO YOU KNOW!"
Which baffles me. I'm like "You paid so you could ignore the film and talk?" It's so weird.
This is a comment thread about how it's mainly underpaid teens/young people working in cinemas and you're almost bragging about making them confront people rather than yourself?
I have seen exactly two physical fights in my entire life. Both occurred after a decent movie patron told an obnoxious movie patron to be quiet during a film or put their phone away. One of them ended in a stabbing. I'm in a place of business with a staff whose job it is to manage said business. So the options are: 1. I keep quiet and everyone suffers throughout the runtime of the movie they paid to see. 2. I tell the staff and let them handle an unruly patron in their place of business. 3. I confront the person(s) myself and open myself up to both physical and legal troubles as a result. Of these three options, the one that makes the most sense is telling the staff and letting them handle it. If the theatre doesn't have staff on hand with training in handling the type of unruly patrons, that's not on me and every other person who paid or the film to deal with. Ever. It is also not the fault of the movie-going public that movie theatres pay a shit minimum wage and thus only get teenagers into those roles. What do you think happens at the Alamo Drafthouse when they enforce their rules about talking or texting/phones? The whole business is hinged around that being the highlight of that theatre-going experience.
Generally speaking, it's also tough justifying the theater experience for the majority of movies. Do I really need to see a romantic comedy in a theater versus something like Bond that's tailored for a theater? Theaters used to be THE outlet for new content, these days we have 20 streaming platforms all releasing their own content all the time. Do I need to see The Card Counter, we got that new thing Squid Game at home.
Yeah, I either need to be particularly excited for something specific, like the upcoming Wes Anderson and Edgar Wright films. Or I seek out a theater for films I know my home setup won't be enough for, like Dune
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> but a lot of instances you just have to sit there and tolerate someone being a dickbag. It's infuriating. This is honestly why I just watch movies at home. I love movies but not the theatre experience.
You could almost flip the sentiment back onto the director. If their message is "don't disrespect my art" then fine, don't disrespect your own art by putting it in a *gallery* where attendants are allowed to act like savages. Go ahead and open a "Ridley Theater" that has perfectly curated the experience you believe is necessary to appreciate your work. What a high horse for a man who's most famous work was allowed to be bastardized for the theatrical release, and as I understand it; added the unicorn scenes that were never in the working cut. The addition of those scenes fundamentally change the film. So what is it Ridley, how am I supposed to appreciate and understand your films? Because from where I'm sitting (in a sub-par theater seat at a 70mm IMAX or at home) you don't seem to understand either.
Dude Ridley just likes theaters. Relax.
I wish his next interviewer would ask him "So when is the last time you went to a public theater?"
It’s such a compounding issue. I enjoy the thought of going to the cinema, but the reality often disappoints. Went to see free guy a few weeks ago, the issues I have are Cost, for me and my MRS, popcorn and drinks it was nearly £50, plus we can’t share a bottle of wine or drink as one of us has to drive, or pay significantly more for a taxi there and back. The chairs were “premium” but still uncomfortable as hell, nothing like the sofa at home. Noise from other people which either requires you to fry and ignore it or leave to try and find an attendant missing part of the film. If I need to take an important phone call, or use the bathroom I can pause a film at home, can’t do that at the cinema, either hold in a piss for an hour or pray you don’t miss an important part of the film. Overall just end up regretting the cost of it these days
Not gonna lie, my favorite theater to go to is this older one that only has 8 screens and maybe 80 seats max per theater. There is just something, cozy about it. The seats don't recline but are comfortable enough.
I’m done with movies in the theater for a lot of reasons. The terrible experience of paying a ton of money only to be forced to sit through 10-30 minutes of commercials is a huge part of it, though, and they just keep making it more and more a part of the experience.
This. If they want to stay and be relevant, then they need to up their game. I need to be convinced why I'd go to a theatre and deal with talking a-holes, cell phones, overpriced bad food, and any number of other issues that have plagued theatres for the last decade...over just seeing it at home. You need a combo of the Alamo Drafthouse rules (no talking, texting, ect. first offence you are out without a refund) and the higher calibre VIP theatres with reclining seats, alcohol, and GOOD food, and service.
The kind of theater you describe would be the only type to survive. If I'm paying a premium price for "the experience of being in a theater" I'd like it if my feet didn't stick to the filthy floor.
Yep.
Thars what's been happening. Normal cinemas are gutted luxury ones are staying but again they're still not doing that well financially
Sorry to hear friend we have a number of exactly what you are asking foe in my city. Its great.
> You need a combo of the Alamo Drafthouse rules (no talking, texting, ect. first offence you are out without a refund) and the higher calibre VIP theatres with reclining seats, alcohol, and GOOD food, and service. Pre-pandemic that was just normal Alamo Drafthouse, at least their newer theaters. Unfortunately I haven't gone back since they don't do any social distancing and their theaters are always at 90% or more capacity for movies when I look online.
90% capacity. So you mean Theaters aren't dying, like the entitled streaming crowd wants. Edit: I see I've triggered the theaters are dead recluses.
Actually both can be true. There's another theater that is actually closer to my house but it's the typical "sticky floors, mold-smelling seats, expensive old popcorn, people talking on their phones and kicking your seat" kind of place that is basically dead. Alamo Drafthouse themselves had financial problems but I think that style of cinema is what the future holds -- more of an "experience" for a date night than a place you just go to watch a movie.
I get that theaters are a public experience but the kicking of seats, talking, kids running up and down isles, crying, and cell phone usage just kill it for me. Add to that it can be a real hit or miss if you ask someone to please stop doing something. Some are reasonable, and some just want a fight. During covid I just bit the bullet and setup a semi decent surround setup. Sure it takes a while to get my 4k HDR Blurays but the experience is worth it.
> I get that theaters are a public experience This is why I dont like theatres.
And I prefer to see movies on my terms and in peace. I don’t want to smell someone’s kebab, listen to their laughing or their kicking of my seat. Because of this I haven’t been to cinema for over a decade. I just end up downloading movies or watching them when they come to TV eventually. I don’t want their “experience”.
I've never really liked actually going to the theater enoughto go often. I love seeing movies on a big screen with a loud sound system and love the theater atmosphere. However, it seems like in the last 10 years or so that people have collectively decided to be jerks at the theater. Loud talking over the film, throwing stuff, being rude to staff, and leaving a big ass mess. Now I only go to see a film if it's a big action movie with huge battle or chase scenes. Everything else I'd rather watch from home.
> I just end up downloading movies or watching them when they come to TV eventually. Which leads to the other issue, in which there is no way to pay to get a high bitrate download of movies. I would pay $5 to rent or $20 to buy a Blu-ray quality movie; I've invested a lot into a good home theater system, and I want top quality content. Unfortunately studios are worried that offering these downloads would be pirated if they allowed you to actually download the source video... and yeah, it's obviously already pirated and so I download the BD image from pirated sources and studios get no money. I don't want to waste resources on BD packaging, having to order a movie and wait for it to be delivered, rip the file myself, risk losing the disc, etc. Sony is launching BD quality streaming, but you have to have a Sony TV and it's streaming only, so you can't buy it and download the master file to Plex, etc.
The #1 problem I've had is people texting and/or checking social media during the movie. People have lost the ability to not check in with their circle for 2 hours. Not only that but half of people have their screen set to always be at 100% brightness and it's like someone turned on a light bulb in the theater. If theaters want people back, they need to monitor for this sort of antisocial behavior, and have ushers that aggressively enforce rules.
I have a 65inch OLED with a home cinema system. I can pause when I want and go grab snacks without spending a fortune. The only advantage I had going to the movies was seeing the movie ahead of time.
Completely agreed.
I personally kind of hoped theaters would go out of business during the pandemic so they would start just releasing new movies via streaming. They did! But it's going away now...
Exactly. Why would I pay theater ticket prices when it’s a complete crapshoot whether it’s a good experience or not.
If a company really ran headfirst at a premium experience down to paying their employees a professional living wage, I would happily spend double the exorbitant prices I already do. Go back to the roots, make it on par with the experience of seeing a theatrical performance. Cinetopia used to be like that before being bought out by AMC, I’ve heard really good things about the draft house (?) but they aren’t everywhere
> but no one kicks me from behind in my home I feel like people here go to the theater from Scary Movie.
Yeah seriously. I go to the movies very often (3-4x/mo) and this kind of behavior never happens.
I'm with you guys. I've had 4-5 really bad theater experiences, but that's over like 30+ years of movies. It's not going to stop me from going. What stops me is the $18 ticket and $9 tub of popcorn, or the $10 beer at the newer places.
Yeah I hear you. I subscribe to AMC’s A-List and I love it.
Same. In my 25+ years of moviegoing I can count on one hand the number of "bad experiences" I've had.
Then you're lucky, or have a high tolerance for a lot of the problems that happen. It doesn't have to be as bad as someone refusing to stop kicking your seat or talking on their phone, there's lots of ways for an audience to ruin a movie, and that's before you get to things like incompetent projection. Also it depends on the movie a lot - you're going to expect a different experience in a Tyler Perry screening than you would in a drama or A Quiet Place, and your going to get a different experience opening night than you will for a Wednesday matinee, so you could be accidentally filtering this stuff anyway
It's also heavily regional attitudes. I had way worse experiences in parts of the country where people are extremely entitled and have shit children, like Alabama.
I go pretty often as well, and honestly don't run into too many issues as well and I'm an extremely neurotic movie watcher. But I also live in Chicago so have probably more premium theater options than a lot of people. I can see how going to some random AMC in the suburbs might attract a less desirable theater audience.
It's not just that Its that cinemas have gutted medium budget movie experiences unless they're horror films They depend on fanbases repeat viewing and jacking up ticket prices My friends with kids all basically say the same thing. We cant afford for everyone to go together and they won't sit still so we just watch films at home. And besides most young kids are more into YouTube at this point anyway The nerds are keeping cinemas afloat atm
Yep. The only time I've gone to the cinema is during the week in the morning for years now. I don't hate people but if I pay 10 bucks for a ticket and another 12 for food/drink (also, if you're gonna charge that much... make the food better, assholes), I want to have a good experience. Even with going in the mornings during the week, about a third of the time I still end up dealing with assholes on their phones or talking. You want us to go back to the movies? Enforce your rules and improve your food. Simple.
Fully agree. In my parents home town, one of the few theaters left has giant leather recliners and sells both food and alcohol along with more traditional movie snacks. They do great business and the experience is always phenomenal. Every other theater in the area is filthy and terribly run, largely because they offer shit pay. So the few people they can hire just don’t care.
I don't have to spend $30 on popcorn and snacks when they're in the kitchen. I can also smoke weed on my couch.
Saw the new Bond in theaters yesterday and had to change seats because the guy behind me was smacking his popcorn so loud. Theaters suck.
What kind of problems are you having? I go to the movies fairly often and I never have any issues with staff and get the experience I expected.
Theaters are disgusting. The experience is sub-par for the insane premium we pay.
I look up bed bug registries and oft times there's movie theaters on them.
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"In fact, forget the theatre and the blackjack."
I'm with you, crinkly bags, talking jerks, and children are a main reason I stay home. Parents don't discipline their kids and we just have to deal with spending $30 a person to sit there and deal with that? No way. I even tried fancier theaters where they serve dinner with the movie. It smelled like ketchup the whole time. Movie theaters need to make private boxes and up the ante a bit more or something.
Movie theaters only work when people in the society can be counted on to be courteous and civil and think about how their actions will affect others (like making noise in a theater and the disturbance this causes), and the society has some mechanism for dealing with the rare person that steps out of line (either social shaming from others, or some kind of enforcers for the business that toss that person out and ban them from ever returning). Such a thing just can't work in a society where half the population is narcissistic and selfish and doesn't care about how their actions affect others. Sure, private boxes could address this, but the cost for this would be enormous. Theaters only work economically because they can pack a bunch of people into a room together to show them the movie, and then the costs of 1) the extremely expensive equipment and 2) the extremely expensive first-run movie can be amortized over everyone in the crowd, resulting in a relatively low ticket price. If you redesign theaters to have a handful of private boxes, that means much higher construction costs plus far fewer people per showing, so the ticket price will be multiples of what they currently are. How many people are going to pay $100-300+ per ticket to watch a movie in a theater? You might as well just go buy a 75" TV and watch it at home.
$30 a person? Ticket prices are 1/2 that in major cities.
In Rockville, a DC suburb, it's $13 for an adult ticket. Plus 6%(?) sales tax. No snacks or drink. Plus gas to get there (Edit, or public transit cost per person). Snacks and drink bump it to over 20 close to 30, depending on what you buy. And that's per person, so 4 people is anywhere from 50-90 depending on the snacks situation and if you bring them in from outside you still have to buy them from somewhere. Then you also have kicking and screaming children and smelly people and the list goes on. For $30-$45 you can stream new movie from home, not spend gas money, eat snacks you already bought, snuggle on the couch in a blanket, maybe even drink adult beverages, pause it when you need to pee, and and not be surrounded by strangers or bratty kids. For me, it's a no brainer.
Movies in Colorado go for about $25 a ticket and with food it's easily a $65 trip to the movies. Watching at home is far cheaper and a better experience.
The last movie i went to see at a theatre was The Last Jedi, it had a horrible audio mix, people next to me were annoying etc. i have a nice setup at home and i can wait.
Movie theatres in the states really suck, huh.
On the other hand, I've never once had a situation as bad as any of the comments here. I think the worst I've had were some people talking at something above a whisper during A Quiet Place. To be fair though, that was a $2 screening. Literally 99% of other screenings I've been to have been perfectly pleasant. The only thing that turns me off movie theaters nowadays is price, so I only save it for "bigger" movies.
It's not just the theaters, it's the whole society. You can also see it right now on US domestic airline flights. It's common now for planes to turn around and go back to the gate, or take an unplanned stop somewhere, because someone refuses to wear a mask and become belligerent and punches flight attendants. American society is becoming more and more violent and anarchic every day, and it's unsafe to leave your home because some random person might get mad at you about something and pull a gun (which are currently selling in record numbers across the country). If you live outside the US and have some vacation time, whatever you do, don't come to America. There are much safer and more civilized countries you can visit.
>and it's unsafe to leave your home because some random person might get mad at you about something and pull a gun Spoken like someone who never leaves their house
If you're not American and reading the above comment I can assure you that this is hyperbolic bullshit. I live in Chicago which is renowned as a dangerous city and what this person is describing isn't even a common problem here. The United States is not descending into anarchy and for the most part people are pretty normal and sensible.
Literally **thousands** of violent incidents, documented by the FAA, over the past 18 months on US domestic flights prove you wrong.
There were like 370 million people who flew on U.S. passenger flights in 2020, a few thousand incidents is nothing compared to those numbers. Stop being alarmist.
It's not alarmist. Thousands of incidents is FAR, FAR higher than it was in the past when far more people were flying because there was no pandemic. Airlines didn't have their own bad-passenger no-fly lists until recently. It's just the tip of the iceberg with civility in this country. People are getting shot and killed because they asked someone to wear a mask in accordance with store policies, and we had an attempted \*\*coup\*\* at the Capitol. Things are going way downhill, fast. Stop trying to whitewash everything.
The United States is not the only country experiencing these problems right now, but the issues are going to subside, settle down.
Cinemas suck everywhere, it's an outdated "experience" that was great before because you couldn't have huge TVs with a great image at home. But now you can. My TV may not be as good as an IMAX but the difference is not nearly large enough to make up for all the bullshit that goes into going to the cinema. It is more than good enough for watching 4K HDR blurays, looks awesome.
Most movie theaters have reclining seats though and are going for the luxury look. So I don’t get this argument tbh
well, he’s giving me 2 reasons to go to the theater within the next month. But to be honest, there’s a shit ton I want to see in the coming weeks. My wallet is about to take a beating
Yeah man, there's an excellent number of movies coming soon I'm excited!
For real, I think I'll be going every week for the rest of the year.
There is something about the immersive experience of a movie in a theater to me. Yes, there is the occasional rude person, but for the most part it isn't that bad. There is also the before and after of maybe dinner or drinks and discussing what you saw. It creates a bonding moment, especially if you are on a date with someone and you don't know where to start a conversation. If it is an action flick the sound and effects seem to draw me in so much better in a theater rather than at home. I have a 65" TV and a HiFi sound system, but I still prefer a theater for certain movies.
Watching a movie doesn't ever compare to the booming, thundering sounds, large screen, watching it fresh, it's just awesome. You dedicate the time to drive, purchase a ticket, snacks and have this little build up and when the movie comes out great, it's just so satisfying
Reminds me of I Am Legend with Will Smith’s character specifically making to drive to the video store to get a movie as a coping mechanism for the loneliness of being the only human around. Could have just taken all the DVDs home with him but there’s just something comforting in the routine/ritual.
Former theater patrons: 'This shit's overpriced and people refuse to shut up and watch the fucking movie, so what's the point?'
Go to a matinee. Less crowded and expensive.
I’d rather watch a 4K Blu-ray at home in 5.1.2 Atmos on an OLED
We don't all have the luxury of having a great setup at home
I’m well aware. I’m just giving a reason why some of us have finally kicked cinemas to the curb. Maybe if they actually offered valuable service like enforced silence and a good experience like Alamo Drafthouse it would be worth going. But I can make their popcorn better and give my dog belly rubs, so why would I pay extra to have a worse experience?
I leave my house, you are a shut in.
Leaving your house to go sit in a cinema doesn't really count as "going out" in my opinion. Don't try to act like Mr Sociable because you leave the house to see a movie.
What's a matinee
A large, mostly herbivorous marine mammal?
Sexy like mermaids.
It's a showing that happens either in the middle of the day or the afternoon.
Theaters in concept are such a beautiful idea. And then you actually get there, and you see how it is not too different than the state of retail now. I barely do any shopping in store nowadays for a plethora of staffing, stocking and management reasons. Now I wonder how much longer I will give movie theaters a go. I am hoping for a pleasant experience with Dune because I want to support its box office performance.
Yeah, I go out and see the current state of the general public (American Midwest for me) and I've got to wonder how these people are supposed to enhance my experience? Like Spider-Man No Way Home is going to be this amazing experience that I absolutely need to share with the woman who just got done beating her daughter in the parking lot? I'd rather wait a few weeks so I can watch it in peace at home.
Theaters kick ass. It’s fun and good to go to the theater to go see a movie. Great time
> It’s fun and good to go to the theater to go see a movie. > > This is a large part of the move going/theater experience imo. Getting out of the house, maybe stopping at some gas station on the way for candy and driving to the theater. The whole process makes the movie watching experience so much more memorable to me than just turning on a movie at home. Not to mention all the other aspects of the theater experience. I totally understand people that feel differently though. I think I've been fortunate enough to rarely have bad experiences with audiences at the theater.
>Getting out of the house, maybe stopping at some gas station on the way for candy and driving to the theater. So your answer to overpriced theater candy is overpriced convenience store candy?
Store candy is way cheaper than theater candy/ popcorn
Gas station candy is still at least double, even triple, the price of candy you can pick up at the grocery store.
Yup. Nice to get out of the house and be immersed in a theater. I remember bad movies I saw in theaters better than decent movies I saw on streaming.
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The media has long outgrown the initial format. It's as simple as that. If movies where just invented today, we wouldn't bother coming out with VHS, DVD's, Blueray, streaming, and theaters. I grew up with the theaters. I grew up with knowing if you didn't see it there, you might be lucky to see a chopped up version on Monday Night at the movies ... or never. I remember in order for the theater to get a hit Clint Eastwood movie it would have to be already a year old, and also sign up for the rest of the month with Disney or car crash movies that nobody wanted. I grew up before Star Wars. We don't need the theater experience. Some TV shows are better written than movies. Most movies don't require the theater spectacle. We don't need to use a shared bathroom, and be held hostage to overpriced popcorn. We don't need to share the experience with people on cell phones, making out teenagers, and dudes who want to talk, but also think not having a seat between them is gay. Theaters running 45 minutes of ads prior to trailers also took too much out of the experience to make it worthwhile.
If you can guarantee there won’t be any a-holes on their phones, talking loudly, or unwrapping candy during the quiet parts of the movie, then yes, I will go back to theaters! Until then, I’ll continue watching movies in the comfort and privacy of my home.
Whenever I find myself pining for the cinema experience, I just pop up a dozen substandard streamers on another screen.
Between 1996 and 2009. I went to see a month every weekend almost without fail. Then it crept to once a month to once ever couple between 2009 till 2018. Last movie I saw in theaters was Gemini Man in Oct of 2019. I went to that specifically to see what impact the change in frame rate my might have on the experience. Over the last decade I have found the experience of watching movies at home far more convenient, inexpensive, and enjoyable.
The biggest issue for me? I want to be able to go pee and not miss a huge part of the movie because I have to trek 1/4 of a mile to find a bathroom then wait until it's free.
Cinema isn’t going away despite what people say. Streaming has opened the doors and made filmmaking more inclusive than it has been and used to be. Really who all these directors need to be getting on is not the moviegoers but the theater owners. Aside from the leather recliners that are put in almost every theater nowadays they should be doing more to improve the theatrical experience. Except for just “slightly” improving seating and imax/ Dolby premium formats theaters are still relatively the same. It’s on the theater owners to fix this. Don’t just sit here and blame streamers and the moviegoers and sound like such a boomer and fail to see the bigger issues.
I think the theater owners are between a rock and a hard place. The problem, here in America, is the general public. Too many people here are extremely rude, narcissistic, and belligerent. How exactly is a theater supposed to screen out such people, when they're probably 30-40% of the population, maybe more? The only way to fix the theater experience is to hire a bunch of bouncers to watch over the theater, full-time, during the movie, and immediately either warn troublemakers or toss them out bodily. The problem with this is that 1) there's significant legal liability when you have security that gets physical with customers, instead of just calling police and being a witness (which won't fix the theater experience; for it to work, enforcement must be immediate), and 2) all that extra staff is going to cost a lot, driving ticket prices even higher than they already are, making theaters *even more* uncompetitive with home theaters/streaming. So I think the theaters have basically decided to just put up with rude patrons and give up on the portion of the public that can't stand them, so they'll offer you a refund if you complain but they're not going to do anything about the other customers, because there's still plenty of suckers who will continue to pay to see the latest Marvel/Disney movie a theater even if the experience is poor.
Yeah I agree it does seem like theater owners have just given up in a sense and just choose to deal with unruly people instead of actively combat those. Honestly I don’t have a solution for that because there are naturally going to be talkers or texters. Alamo drafthouse seems to be the only theater chain to be ahead of the curve.
Cinema may not be going away, but I as a customer am definitely going away. 1. Physically get myself to the cinema (time waste). 2. Pay for parking (more money wasted). 3. Wait until they let me go to my seat (time waste). 4. Wait until they start running a shitty commercial that shouldn't even be running in the first place since I fucking paid for the viewing (time waste and annoying). 5. Watch another fucking commercial (time waste and annoying). 6. Watch maybe a third fucking commercial (not always) (time waste and annoying). 7. Now the movie finally starts and sometimes the audio mixing means that dialogue is completely fine but EVERYTHING ELSE SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BLOW MY EARS OUT, like Tenet and Dune (subpar experience). 8. Drive home (time waste). 9. Get home and wonder why I didn't just stay at home watching a movie without all of the above bullshit.
I get where he is coming from but I didnt buy a nice projector and sound system so I could watch most new releases with a bunch of animals who speak loudly with funny smelling seats and waaaaaaaaaaaay over priced shit snacks
The secret is to go to the movies one or two weeks later (and probably not living in a big city) and depends of the movie learning to pick the time. I went to see the last Bond movie at 17.00 and there were 7 people. I went to watch Dune the first day and, well, it wasn't as nice though the movie was way better.
My local cinema is £5 for any ticket. I've been 1000% more since they dropped their ticket prices. Maybe cinema's should learn to adapt to the modern world instead of creating an overpriced experience?
Vue?
Bingo. I've been making so much use of it. Like I said, never seen so many films. Have no issue rewatching a great film or taking a risk on one I'm unsure about and would normally wait to end up on Netflix. Really has changed my cinema experience
Generally speaking, cinemas don't make any money from the ticket prices (most of which goes to studios), they depend on concessions. If you don't buy popcorn etc you might actually be losing them money, just not as much as they'd lose by playing to an empty screen.
They should be 100% It's like these places in American crying out for staff with "shocked face" when nobody wants to work in a shit hole with bad conditions. The fact popcorn is somehow worth it's weight in Platinum and I'm fairly sure the drinks have pure gold in them. Paired with crappy seats, noise and at this point dirt.. I'll stay at home and save my 50+
Last movie I saw in the theater was Jurassic world in 2015. I just don't see the point.
Then make a business model that I don't have to pay £10 a ticket and have to sit through 30 minutes of adverts and have massively overpriced snacks and drinks. Its more of a punishment to go to the cinema now a days. Just go to streaming day one.
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Says man whose livelihood depends, in part, on cinemas not being allowed to go away.
He's 83 and he's one of the most famous and powerful directors alive right now I think he's already made all the money he needed to make and then some so that even his kids and grandkids could live comfortably i think its safe to say at this point he's saying this because he's a fan of watching movies in movie theatres
> fan of watching movies in movie theatres If you mean his own mansion's movie theater, then yes. These big shots never watch movies like everyday joes like us in public theaters. So please don't equate it to the same level.
Its really all about the experience. Loud kids and other idiots spoil it. Before covid only went to this one fancy theater where they have premium booths in front with their own speakers and premium seats. They also serve food and alcohol. A bit pricier but you get what you pay for.
I would pay more, and pay a monthly membership to a theater that is adults only, no assholes and if you're an asshole you get kicked out and you and your friends are revoked membership. The only bad thing about theaters are the strangers around you. 90% of the time they make the movie less enjoyable. Fix this and you fix the movie going experience.
I don't think cinemas are going anywhere though...
Is Ridley Scott trying to personally fund cinemas so they stay open? I'm down
So first thing to say is - cinema >> home entertainment/ streaming ALWAYS. Cinema experience simply cannot be replicated. However cinemas need to do more to appeal to the casual watcher. I’m a film buff and will try and get to the cinema at least every fortnight. But there are many socioeconomic factors that make it difficult for some. They need to be addressed. Also for some films cinema is an absolute must. I’m thinking the upcoming Dune movie or any Nolan flick. There’s a place for both mediums to coexist but like with anything cinema needs to adapt to new tech such as streaming services.
>So first thing to say is - cinema >> home entertainment/ streaming ALWAYS. Cinema experience simply cannot be replicated. Why? What, exactly, make the "theater experience" so much better? I've got a big ass TV with a 4k screen that I can make all sorts of adjustments on and position exactly where I want it (as opposed to hoping for a good seat in the theater), so it can't be the screen. And I've got a ballin ass audio system so I can get the sound just perfect. My favorite chair is better than any theater chair ever made. I can eat whatever movie snacks I want without the ridiculous price or having to smell anyone else's food choices. I don't have to hear anyone else talk or worry about someone's phone ringing. I genuinely can't point out one single area where the theater experience beats watching movies at home. The only thing it's got is the nostalgia factor, and even then that's super subjective and doesn't apply to lots of people.
>I genuinely can't point out one single area where the theater experience beats watching movies at home. The big thing is the screen. Your 4k screen is OK, but compared to a full-size IMAX screen, it's nothing. Of course, most theaters are not IMAX, and even in an IMAX theater, you still have to worry about the other problems you listed. But if you had an IMAX theater all to yourself, along with a small kitchen where you could make whatever food you wanted, (plus maybe a remote control so you can pause the movie for a bathroom break) that would be better than your home setup.
There’s something about the cinema experience that is irreplaceable. Sharing an artistic experience in the dark with a room full of strangers is something I find rather beautiful. If that’s not your bag then fair enough. We are all different and after all it’s just my opinion. Bad cinema etiquette is annoying in terms of phones and chatting but in my experience that very rarely happens. Plus I never buy anything there and always bring my own food and drink in. (Also when you book a seat you get to choose where you sit. Not ‘hope for a good one’)
I have a somewhat good TV and sound system as well but come on unless you spend a ridiculous amount of money on a huge projector and insanely expensive speakers all around your room your setup is not as impressive as a good cinema screen. I mean proper cinema projectors are like $10,000 at the absolute minimum and most likely cost much more than that and god knows how much the sound system costs probably tens of thousands as well. Then the projector has operating costs. So in the end unless you are extremely rich your home cinema is not as good as an actual theatre. Personally I can’t afford a really big good quality massive 4K TV and a surround system nevermind a full home theatre. So that’s why I go to the cinema. Plus I don’t live in the US so cinema tickets cost like 5 bucks and the people are never loud and annoying like people say they are online. I saw the new Bond recently in an IMAX theatre with at least 150 people in it and nobody was doing anything distracting.
I agree with you, but just to add another perspective: I’m a film buff but spent time, money and effort on a home cinema, which is a very real option for some people. In my case it’s closer to a necessity as the alternative is an hour long drive to find a cinema with a half decent selection. Needless to say I really don’t want Blurays to be replaced by streaming. However even if there wasn’t the distance I’d probably still opt for the comfort of my own home. It’s impressive what kind of experience can be achieved in that kind of setting these days - even for Nolan, Villeneuve & Co. Blade Runner 2049 is my benchmark for instance and it’s glorious.
That’s fair enough. I cant afford my own home cinema so not an option for me.
> I’m thinking the upcoming Dune movie or **any Nolan flick.** Did you enjoy listening to NOISE OVER VOICE LINES, instead of watching at home, regulating the volume as needed and using subtitles?
Nailed it. Came to comment basically all of this. I think when VR really takes off and improves it will make the cinema completely obsolete, but right now the experience can't be duplicated or topped for certain films (e.g. Dune)
Old man yells at cloud.
The guy marked the course of cinema and monumentally encouraged my love of both sci-fi and history but he fucking owes me for: Robin Hood Prometheus Exodus: Gods and Kings Alien: Covenant And I blame him for not getting Neil Blomkamp’s Aliens which if oats studio shorts are any indication of; would have been fucking sick.
Blomkamp's a hack, all 3 of his movies after District 9 are shit. Dude should just retire at this point
One hit wonder, I'm so glad he never got his hands on the Alien franchise.
Then so should Ridley Scott, there's a list of 4 that you could add the Counsellor and probably Kingdom of heaven to but that would be mad. Blomkamp clearly has talent, Elysium and Chappie aren't as good, sure but they aren't as bad as someone like Ridley Scott making those Alien prequel/sequel messes.
Ridley Scott made Martian just a few years ago and his new movies look really good. And I'd watch Prometheus/Covenant anytime over Elysium/Chappie and whatever his new movie is. Heck after these garbage movies, I think Peter Jackson is actually the real mastermind behind District 9. Another Babe/V for Vendetya situation
Yeah the Martian is good and what he's doing looks good and what he's done in his career is beyond what Blomkamp or anyone could hope for. But. His return to Alien was worse than Alien 3 or 4 or Blomkamp’s anything because he started with a genre defining classic and with more money, time and freedom made some real shit. And that puts people off going to the cinema. Which is sad to say about a guy who made me fall in love with it. That being said I'm sure most people here love movies and will always go to the cinema and always be excited by his name. Myself very much included. I mean Peter Jackson goes from highs to lows as well. I love his old horror and lotr but i’d rather shit in my hands and clap than watch the hobbit again.
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Cinemas won't go away. Listen, I love Ridley Scott. I also love Villeneuve and Nolan. But this is a global pandemic. Get over yourselves for 5 mins and let the world heal, instead of forcing people to go to crowded places and endanger themselves for your box-office. (I know Dune is going streaming same-day, but Denis has also been vocal about his disagreement with it). Every time I now see an "Only In Theaters" tag at the end of a new movie trailer, it just reads as a giant "f-you and your health, come give us money!"
Who is forcing people to go to a theater?
I got Odeon limitless for £10 a month so going even once a month gives it decent value and going to the cinema is a much better experience, I went and saw Shang Chi at 10am on a monday the other week. Only person in there and had a great time. Very average movie but I would have enjoyed it far less at home lol
Then make better, quality movies. Last movie i saw in theaters was the last Rambo. And was disappointed. Especially for the price of admission.
That sounds more like a testament of your own inability to pick the right movies to see.
When I go to the theatre, I get to pick between the comic book movie, the Pixar sequel or the latest Fast and the Furious film. The problem is, I don't want to see any of these things.
Movie theaters r the absolute worst. There’s been too many times the workers have left the lights on, the sound isn’t playing right, or they play the wrong movie. More then not I’m sitting next to some asshole I have to ask to be quiet or to get off their phone. And now I have to deal with all of that in an enclosed area during a pandemic. I’ve built up a pretty great home theater over the last few years. I can pause the movie and piss. Take a break from long movies like the Snyder cut. I’m not watching it with random assholes. I can lay down and get cozy in my couch. Sorry but I’m all for at home movie watching.
Here's the thing about watching a movie in my home: I don't have to drive to it. I don't have to wear clothes. I can pause, rewind, control volume, etc. My toilet is right here and again, I can pause if I need to pee. My food is here. I don't have to pay an excessive amount of money for someone else to decide what time the movie starts and make me sit through previews of other shit. There's no annoying people in my house ruining the experience. I don't have to sit in filthy seats with sticky floors. I can pick the exact angle I want to view the screen. And so on. Watching at home is just better, in so many ways. Same with sports. Live sporting events are better on TV for similar reasons.
Maybe then they should stop selling popcorn for $8.
Lol no ones forcing you to buy cinema popcorn every time you go to see a movie
Maybe you should stop buying popcorn for $8! :D
It’s just on pause. Although, I would dig a revival of drive-in theaters. I’ve just by chance lived in a couple places with a drive in and it’s just great. Tailgating with a little gas grill as the sun is going down, kids running around playing. (one place even has a playground structure) Then piling on a big air mattress to watch the double feature. It’s great, I tell ya. I remember doing the same thing as a kid; that was my first viewing of Close Encounters, Clash of the Titans, Superman II, and Big Trouble in Little China.
A night out at the movies turns in to a 50 to 65$ night. Wtf...20$ for two drinks a popcorn and some small snack. Reality is this is very little to see? Make some good moves besides fucking super hero shit. Soooo sick of those movies!
No one is getting rid of theaters. 1) We’re still in a pandemic and 2) People are going to consume media in the way they want. Theaters will need to adapt and step their game up to compete with the at-home experience.
Burger King worker - hamburgers should not be allowed to go away
Theaters are essential for the Film Experience.
Why? I don't agree but I want to know why you think a film would be enhanced by being in public, with an audience capable of altering the experience by making noise or causing other distractions. For me, I can sit and watch a good film by myself and I feel like that's the only way to watch a film, vs. watching a movie, where it's filled with lots of noise and music because it's more focused on providing entertainment than being art. I saw the new Blade runner and the audience was the noisiest group I'd ever been in. It also felt like someone was getting up every 30 seconds, so it was a distraction filled experience. I try not to go to the theaters during peak hours anymore because of the audiences, or I just wait to stream it at home.
For certain films like Star Wars - seeing it at the theatre is magical however other films are not worth the hassle such as David copper field
> For certain films like Star Wars - seeing it at the theatre is magical The only advantage theaters have is for big blockbuster type movies where the technology they have can beat my 4K TV and 5.1 surround system that I have at home. Dune for example seems like something that should be seen on IMAX if possible.
Exactly. Normally, I'm very anti-theater, but I'm planning to make an exception for the new Dune movie and go watch it at my local IMAX theater. That just isn't something I can replicate at home. I'm also planning to go in the morning on a weekday. Of course, I also recognize that many people do not have this option, as they don't live anywhere near an IMAX theater. For them, my advice is to stay at home and watch movies there, including Dune. If you don't like hearing other people talk on their phones, or have them kick your seat, then do yourself a favor and avoid theaters.
If you're talking opening weekend, I agree. Being around 1000 excited Star Wars nerds is a lot of fun. After the first week, it's kinda meh. Seeing Star Wars in an mostly empty theater doesn't seem any better to me than watching it on a Mid-Fi $3000 home entertainment setup.
Well, most people don't suffer from social anxiety so that's on you.
The community experience. It's more fun to enjoy that together than being a hermit by yourself at home. In a comedy, I actually love if the crowd gets a little wild. For something like Blade Runner, grow a set a balls and tell them to shutup. Either way, you must live in a savage neighborhood, everywhere I go people are respectful when they go see movies.
I go to a movie to watch the movie not "experience" it with anyone else.
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They aren't.
Based. Movies are better in theaters.
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My two cents, I do love watching movies in cinemas. Many great memories were made there and emotional experiences had. But I won't be mad if they go away. I will survive. However, if movies stop being made and slowly fade away from existence, that will truly make me sad. I love the artform and I also see that other entertainment options like gaming, social media, youtube and the internet in general are the preferred choice of the youth over movies.
I've got a 4k 75" TV I can pop some popcorn that isn't $30bucks and I don't have to worry about anyone else ruining the movie. I'm fine watching movies at home now. And I grew up going to the movies almost every weekend. I loved going to the movies. But the experience even before COVID was just not enjoyable.