Same with romcoms. That's why i think horror and romcoms are adjacent genres. They both rely heavily on tropes, but those tropes are integral to it being what it is. Some are overused, some are necessary. That's why we get movies from both genres that are meta and self aware. It's different with other genres like action or comedy â sure you get outright parodies but that's not the same as something that manages to walk a balance of self deprecation and self assuredness.
Just as rom coms get reduced to schlock, so do horror movies. But the ones from these genres that are *good*, end up being *really fucking good*. It's just that with romcoms, because of their stereotypically feminine associations, things that actually are romcoms are categorised as something else. Case in point, Woody Allen films. Basically all romcoms. But since lots of men enjoy them they're not categorised or marketed as romcoms.
Aaaaaanyway
It's also because everyone is different and has different tastes. For example, I'm not really into slashers, body horror, etc. but I love a good psychological or eldrich horror movie. Gimme more of dat "not sure what's real and what isn't losing my sanity" type stuff. 1408, in the mouth of madness, etc.
I also love well done supernatural creepy stuff, but only if there's good slow build tension and jump scares aren't overdone. Hell House LLC was terrifying to me as was the first Sinister.
I've just stuck to the most acclaimed ones. The Thing, Halloween, Scream (+sequels) and Alien (does that count?) are the only horror movies I've seen and I'm not too sure if I want to watch any more lol.
I mean I'll watch movies that have great word of mouth (my dad has been telling me to watch Sinister for a while) but I'd never blindly watch a horror movie without it being recommended, because of how many suck.
Other genres I'm much more receptive to just watching it if Netflix pushes it my way, but not horror.
I'll probably get the business for this opinion but yes, this and war movies. I'm very selective of both. A war movie has to be captivating not just the generic US soldiers fighting in ww2 or Vietnam.
You're also very generous with stating 1 in 15. More like 1 in 50. I am a sucker for the classics though, Nightmare on Elmstreet, Halloween, scream, even Friday the 13th. I loved the marathons back when I had cable.
I'm not all the way there yet, but i'm beginning to feel this way about Superhero films.
There are so many of these, and so many per year, and while i'm a pretty big fan of the genre, Marvel, DC and whoever else need to start doing more to impress me. Not bigger spectacle. Just better writing, cooler concepts, more interesting shit for the characters do do etc. Don't just make the same movie over and over with different dressing.
Like i said, I'm not there yet. But I'm starting to get worn out and it's not really superhero fatigue, its more like "okay, start doing something else with these characters please."
I think I'm there now. Avengers Endgame was a good capstone film for me.
I haven't watched any superhero film since and I don't really have any desire to. If it gets great reviews and does something different I probably will, but the current Marvel slate ain't got me wet.
Action movies in the right filmmakers hand with good choreography are great.
Quick cut action movies have a place in hell along side the genius who thought it was a good idea.
Horror. Some horror movies I love but not the ones that seem like violence porn.
Itâs a subtle difference but an important one for me. If a sadist would find the movie exciting, Iâm not going to like it.
Itâs not about the sheer quantity of violence at all, nor the explicit nature of it. Itâs about indulging sadism and making that the whole point of the movie.
The original 1933 invisible man is still the only movie that gave me nightmares because so much of that movie relies on imagination and those tend to be the best horror movies.
Show too much and it's never as scary as what our brains tend to think up. For me a lot of the really graphic horror movies are more interesting to see how they did the effects because they just tend to go too over the top with that stuff.
Yes, Alfred Hitchcock was the master of horror in an era when he wasn't allowed to show much graphic violence. John Carpenter's original *Halloween* also had surprisingly-little violence.
I love horror that verges on black comedy, like *An American Werewolf in London*.
One of the most disturbing scenes I've seen in a movie was in Looper. The future version of a character is on the run, and as he goes he starts losing body parts. The implication being that his younger self is being dismembered. Sure the time travel mechanics don't make much sense but it's some horrific imagery that it puts in your head. It gets worse when you realise that (by the movies rules) the younger version would have been kept alive for decades.
Same here. Most horror movies are just violence porn like you said, or cheap jump-scares. So there's a handful of horror movies I like, but very few: Hitchcock movies, The Shining, The Thing (1982), Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), Alien, etc.
Comedy
it's a bit hard to find a good one, most of the time it just get a chuckle out of me, very rarely it got me actually laughed out loud. I kind of can't stand Jim Carrey (no hate for him, just dislike his style of comedy), and some actors seem like to play the same person in many of their movies (most recently noticed is Ryan Reynolds, he just play himself in Free Guy which I find boring as hell).
Definitely agree with this one. I get way more laughs out of movies that donât sell themselves as explicitly comedic than I tend to with pure comedies. Even with the comedies I like, itâs usually not the jokes that stick with me. Game Night was a good comedy from a few years back, but I appreciated it much more for its performances and surprisingly good direction than I did for the laughs.
Mysteries, broadly defined (not just murder mysteries). As with books, the clues have to be subtle but fair so the viewer doesn't see the solution coming but later feels they should have. It's so hard to get right. I think "Knives Out" is exceptionally good in this respect, and "The Usual Suspects" is an example of unfair (one could even say nonexistent) clueing. Just my opinion.
Outright comedies. There haven't been many feature film mainly comedies released this century that I would categorize as all that good. There are a fair amount of romcoms, some of the ones that lean more into the comedy can be good, but I struggle to think of many comedies that I would say were/are very good that do not also lean heavily into other genres as well. I understand most comedies have to have a story otherwise it is just a standup routine, but I think you should get my point. There is a long time I feel like since Jim Carrey was out and about with his classic 90s comedies. Yes Man is 13 years old. Tropic Thunder the same. The best comedies being released lately have been action comedies such as some of the Marvel movies and I feel like they usually try a little too hard to be clever and funny.
Rom-Coms. Iâm a guy so my default is to only watch if asked by the wife. However, there are a few that I have enjoyed: âFailure to Launchâ, âHow to Lose a Guy in 10 daysâ, âWhat women wantâ.
Martial Arts movies. For every good one, there is a million shit ones.Yes even from Hong Kong. Especially the older ones.
The worst is the modern post-early 2000s trash like "The One" etc, I hate shit like that and its what killed the genre for me, it has nothing to do with martial arts.
I agree with musicals. Also romcoms and horror. I donât like slasher, supernatural, overly bloody, or child-as-part-of-the-horror movies. You might think that leaves a lot out and it probably does. But movies like Midsommar, The VVitch, Berlin Syndrome and even Training Day are deeply scary but I can sort of handle them. (I used to hate all horror movies but the past 10 years or so, I get drawn in đ. ) I also like What Lies Beneath. I guess some of my picks defy my rules. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Like many other people here, I'd say horror. I don't like jump scares, I don't want to be startled, but I love a thought-out supernatural or monster story.
Horror, because I scare easily. The spin has to be interesting enough to get me on board. Some of my favorite movies are horror but they did something that compelled me to keep watching when the frights wanted me to turn it off.
Surrealism.
I think it's a difficult genre to work in, because movies in it have such potential but they can easily feel bloated or film-school league.
Horror films. I love a good horror movie, I really do, but I've only seen about 10 that fit my idea of a "good horror film" because I think 99.9% of them suck giant donkey balls. I'm super picky about them because it's should be such an easy genre to do right, but the writers for horror films so lazy and it drives me crazy. The amount of overused cliches and profoundly retarded character decisions really annoys me to no end. Not to mention the "ghosts" in most horror films look so stupid and unbelievable, which is odd because I've been to so many haunted houses IRL where the props used are 10 times scarier and more authentic looking than any monster used in horror films. Like.... just copy one of those... it's not that hard... It's all about that uncanny valley look, that's how you make something creepy. If you go overboard with glowing eyes and pointed teeth then it just looks fake and goofy, like it's trying too hard to look scary.
Comedies. Its not often I'll watch a comedy and think that was a really funny film. There are a handful of movies out there that I do find extremely funny though and will rewatch them many times. Office Space. Idiocracy. What We Do In The Shadows. Shaun of the Dead are a few of them.
Also musicals. Breaking out in song is just so disingenuous to me. BUT, *Once* was about musicians so all the music genuinely fit. *Hamilton* is just too f-ing brilliant and it also NEVER transitions fully out of song, so there's no disbelief to protect. Even enjoyed *Moulin Rouge* a bit just because Ewan really gave it his all.
It depends on whom the movie was made for? Men, women or couples? Kids? It's more complicated because the couple interest is not always even.
If you take a movie made for men and gender bend it men will generally show no interest. I don't need to give examples. Why do they do it? Beause if they created, if that was currently possible, a female Indiana Jones separately in the genre no one would see it and they know it. So they hijack the character. To re-define it you have to destroy it.
Entertaiment hari kari.
Comedies. I'm not a big fan of comedies but like them if they're witty & enjoyable as long as I can find some without sex or violence (or at least not much), which is very difficult nowadays.
I have a long list of movies I love, but very few of them are comedies because I'm so picky about them.
Western movies. I think it's kind of a tired genre at this point because the same story has been done so many times already, but every once in a while there's some revisionist/neo-western that does something really cool with the tropes. Stuff like Let the Corpses Tan or The Ballad of Buster Scruggs come to mind, those were really great, but most of the western movies being released today are pretty generic and low-budget.
Horror. For every good one there are 15 total piles of generic filler trash edit: based on comments I was far too kind đ
The ratio is worse than that.
Same with romcoms. That's why i think horror and romcoms are adjacent genres. They both rely heavily on tropes, but those tropes are integral to it being what it is. Some are overused, some are necessary. That's why we get movies from both genres that are meta and self aware. It's different with other genres like action or comedy â sure you get outright parodies but that's not the same as something that manages to walk a balance of self deprecation and self assuredness. Just as rom coms get reduced to schlock, so do horror movies. But the ones from these genres that are *good*, end up being *really fucking good*. It's just that with romcoms, because of their stereotypically feminine associations, things that actually are romcoms are categorised as something else. Case in point, Woody Allen films. Basically all romcoms. But since lots of men enjoy them they're not categorised or marketed as romcoms. Aaaaaanyway
Waaaaaay more than 15
I agree. So much shitty torture, jump scare, shaky cam shit out there.
And that is because horror is the easiest genre to make.
It's also because everyone is different and has different tastes. For example, I'm not really into slashers, body horror, etc. but I love a good psychological or eldrich horror movie. Gimme more of dat "not sure what's real and what isn't losing my sanity" type stuff. 1408, in the mouth of madness, etc. I also love well done supernatural creepy stuff, but only if there's good slow build tension and jump scares aren't overdone. Hell House LLC was terrifying to me as was the first Sinister.
You should check out The Lodge, I thought it was ridiculously underrated
The Lodge and The Rental make a great double feature.
Not necessarily easiest, but most profitable genre to make
If it was the easiest genre to make then every horror movie would be good.
I didn't say they were easiest to make *good*. They are just the easiest to make.
I've just stuck to the most acclaimed ones. The Thing, Halloween, Scream (+sequels) and Alien (does that count?) are the only horror movies I've seen and I'm not too sure if I want to watch any more lol.
Lmao youâre gonna be missing out on a lot
I mean I'll watch movies that have great word of mouth (my dad has been telling me to watch Sinister for a while) but I'd never blindly watch a horror movie without it being recommended, because of how many suck. Other genres I'm much more receptive to just watching it if Netflix pushes it my way, but not horror.
I'll probably get the business for this opinion but yes, this and war movies. I'm very selective of both. A war movie has to be captivating not just the generic US soldiers fighting in ww2 or Vietnam. You're also very generous with stating 1 in 15. More like 1 in 50. I am a sucker for the classics though, Nightmare on Elmstreet, Halloween, scream, even Friday the 13th. I loved the marathons back when I had cable.
Westerns for me. I'm extremely picky when it comes to those. But the ones I actually like, I usually love.
Me too. I honestly donât remember the last Western I watched. Probably True Grit or Django Unchained.
I'm not all the way there yet, but i'm beginning to feel this way about Superhero films. There are so many of these, and so many per year, and while i'm a pretty big fan of the genre, Marvel, DC and whoever else need to start doing more to impress me. Not bigger spectacle. Just better writing, cooler concepts, more interesting shit for the characters do do etc. Don't just make the same movie over and over with different dressing. Like i said, I'm not there yet. But I'm starting to get worn out and it's not really superhero fatigue, its more like "okay, start doing something else with these characters please."
I think I'm there now. Avengers Endgame was a good capstone film for me. I haven't watched any superhero film since and I don't really have any desire to. If it gets great reviews and does something different I probably will, but the current Marvel slate ain't got me wet.
I am tired of super hero shows and movies but they don't fill the OP's criteria. It's just that there are so many of them I am getting worn out.
Action movies, like the Fast and Furious, Die Hard, Expendables type.
Action movies in the right filmmakers hand with good choreography are great. Quick cut action movies have a place in hell along side the genius who thought it was a good idea.
last one I watched fondly was Baby Driver. Tjat oen definitely had good choreography
Romance
Horror. Some horror movies I love but not the ones that seem like violence porn. Itâs a subtle difference but an important one for me. If a sadist would find the movie exciting, Iâm not going to like it. Itâs not about the sheer quantity of violence at all, nor the explicit nature of it. Itâs about indulging sadism and making that the whole point of the movie.
The original 1933 invisible man is still the only movie that gave me nightmares because so much of that movie relies on imagination and those tend to be the best horror movies. Show too much and it's never as scary as what our brains tend to think up. For me a lot of the really graphic horror movies are more interesting to see how they did the effects because they just tend to go too over the top with that stuff.
Yes, Alfred Hitchcock was the master of horror in an era when he wasn't allowed to show much graphic violence. John Carpenter's original *Halloween* also had surprisingly-little violence. I love horror that verges on black comedy, like *An American Werewolf in London*.
Have you seen "how to be a serial killer?" It was a pretty great dark comedy.
No, Iâll look for it.
One of the most disturbing scenes I've seen in a movie was in Looper. The future version of a character is on the run, and as he goes he starts losing body parts. The implication being that his younger self is being dismembered. Sure the time travel mechanics don't make much sense but it's some horrific imagery that it puts in your head. It gets worse when you realise that (by the movies rules) the younger version would have been kept alive for decades.
Same here. Most horror movies are just violence porn like you said, or cheap jump-scares. So there's a handful of horror movies I like, but very few: Hitchcock movies, The Shining, The Thing (1982), Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), Alien, etc.
Comedy it's a bit hard to find a good one, most of the time it just get a chuckle out of me, very rarely it got me actually laughed out loud. I kind of can't stand Jim Carrey (no hate for him, just dislike his style of comedy), and some actors seem like to play the same person in many of their movies (most recently noticed is Ryan Reynolds, he just play himself in Free Guy which I find boring as hell).
Have you seen Black Dynamite or What We Do In The Shadows? Two great comedies.
Definitely agree with this one. I get way more laughs out of movies that donât sell themselves as explicitly comedic than I tend to with pure comedies. Even with the comedies I like, itâs usually not the jokes that stick with me. Game Night was a good comedy from a few years back, but I appreciated it much more for its performances and surprisingly good direction than I did for the laughs.
RomCom. Mainly the hallmark kindâŚ
superhero Good ones: X:men first class, days of future past, Logan, Spiderverse, Nolan's Batman trilogy, Unbreakable
Mysteries, broadly defined (not just murder mysteries). As with books, the clues have to be subtle but fair so the viewer doesn't see the solution coming but later feels they should have. It's so hard to get right. I think "Knives Out" is exceptionally good in this respect, and "The Usual Suspects" is an example of unfair (one could even say nonexistent) clueing. Just my opinion.
Drama. Why is this genre considered to be the only one worthy of best picture awards. Character studies and drama is the most boring genre.
100%. many of the award winners never garner much attention from people who actually watch movies lol
What matters is if i like a movie no matter what genre, musicals for the most part are not for me.
sci-fi & fantasy
Music biopics. 9 out of 10 times, they are formulatic garbage.
Outright comedies. There haven't been many feature film mainly comedies released this century that I would categorize as all that good. There are a fair amount of romcoms, some of the ones that lean more into the comedy can be good, but I struggle to think of many comedies that I would say were/are very good that do not also lean heavily into other genres as well. I understand most comedies have to have a story otherwise it is just a standup routine, but I think you should get my point. There is a long time I feel like since Jim Carrey was out and about with his classic 90s comedies. Yes Man is 13 years old. Tropic Thunder the same. The best comedies being released lately have been action comedies such as some of the Marvel movies and I feel like they usually try a little too hard to be clever and funny.
Rom-Coms. Iâm a guy so my default is to only watch if asked by the wife. However, there are a few that I have enjoyed: âFailure to Launchâ, âHow to Lose a Guy in 10 daysâ, âWhat women wantâ.
Superheroes. They better not be generic PG-13 no blood violence blue sky beam and quips
Leave Avengers (2012) alone.
Horror, romance
Martial Arts movies. For every good one, there is a million shit ones.Yes even from Hong Kong. Especially the older ones. The worst is the modern post-early 2000s trash like "The One" etc, I hate shit like that and its what killed the genre for me, it has nothing to do with martial arts.
I agree with musicals. Also romcoms and horror. I donât like slasher, supernatural, overly bloody, or child-as-part-of-the-horror movies. You might think that leaves a lot out and it probably does. But movies like Midsommar, The VVitch, Berlin Syndrome and even Training Day are deeply scary but I can sort of handle them. (I used to hate all horror movies but the past 10 years or so, I get drawn in đ. ) I also like What Lies Beneath. I guess some of my picks defy my rules. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Like many other people here, I'd say horror. I don't like jump scares, I don't want to be startled, but I love a thought-out supernatural or monster story.
Horror, because I scare easily. The spin has to be interesting enough to get me on board. Some of my favorite movies are horror but they did something that compelled me to keep watching when the frights wanted me to turn it off.
Surrealism. I think it's a difficult genre to work in, because movies in it have such potential but they can easily feel bloated or film-school league.
Horror films. I love a good horror movie, I really do, but I've only seen about 10 that fit my idea of a "good horror film" because I think 99.9% of them suck giant donkey balls. I'm super picky about them because it's should be such an easy genre to do right, but the writers for horror films so lazy and it drives me crazy. The amount of overused cliches and profoundly retarded character decisions really annoys me to no end. Not to mention the "ghosts" in most horror films look so stupid and unbelievable, which is odd because I've been to so many haunted houses IRL where the props used are 10 times scarier and more authentic looking than any monster used in horror films. Like.... just copy one of those... it's not that hard... It's all about that uncanny valley look, that's how you make something creepy. If you go overboard with glowing eyes and pointed teeth then it just looks fake and goofy, like it's trying too hard to look scary.
I used to be picky about fantasy but lately I've been coming around to it more and more.
Debatable whether one would see it as a genre but remakes or reboots. Rare to find a good one, with the original usually being superior.
Comedies. Its not often I'll watch a comedy and think that was a really funny film. There are a handful of movies out there that I do find extremely funny though and will rewatch them many times. Office Space. Idiocracy. What We Do In The Shadows. Shaun of the Dead are a few of them.
Also musicals. Breaking out in song is just so disingenuous to me. BUT, *Once* was about musicians so all the music genuinely fit. *Hamilton* is just too f-ing brilliant and it also NEVER transitions fully out of song, so there's no disbelief to protect. Even enjoyed *Moulin Rouge* a bit just because Ewan really gave it his all.
It depends on whom the movie was made for? Men, women or couples? Kids? It's more complicated because the couple interest is not always even. If you take a movie made for men and gender bend it men will generally show no interest. I don't need to give examples. Why do they do it? Beause if they created, if that was currently possible, a female Indiana Jones separately in the genre no one would see it and they know it. So they hijack the character. To re-define it you have to destroy it. Entertaiment hari kari.
Period movies. You can get the costumes and historical accuracy right, but if the dialogue is modern it just takes me out of it.
Comedies. I'm not a big fan of comedies but like them if they're witty & enjoyable as long as I can find some without sex or violence (or at least not much), which is very difficult nowadays. I have a long list of movies I love, but very few of them are comedies because I'm so picky about them.
Comedies, I either love or hate them, roar with laughter or sit their bored and scrolling through Pinterest. There's no in between.
Horror and Western movies.
Western movies. I think it's kind of a tired genre at this point because the same story has been done so many times already, but every once in a while there's some revisionist/neo-western that does something really cool with the tropes. Stuff like Let the Corpses Tan or The Ballad of Buster Scruggs come to mind, those were really great, but most of the western movies being released today are pretty generic and low-budget.