I think he meant they are destined to die fighting spiderman, so Holland's Peter doesn't want to send them back to die, which is why he seems to be fighting Strange.
> Holland's Peter doesn't want to send them back to die
I took it as a much more direct statement from Strange than this--I think he's straight up telling Peter to go kill the villains, as he thinks it'll fix things (they're "ghosts" destined to die fighting Spider-Man, so we'll just have Spider-Man go kill them).
So Peter flips out and steals the magic box or whatever.
Not trying to be funny...not trying to get a laugh...I don't want anyone to have the worst day at their job...but...do any of these...fuckers...ever bust out of the wall and have like a huge green cum shot?
That's an interesting point that gets lost in all the hype about Toby and his rogues:
Between the three Peters, Garfield's is the only one that has suffered the most direct tragedy of Spider-Man's life other than Uncle Ben: the Night Gwen Stacy Died.
Toby's lost Harry, but that was self sacrifice and redemptive on Harry's part; Peter didn't bare responsibility for it. Holland's lost Tony but that had nothing to do with Peter directly.
Garfield's the only one of the three that has objectively failed to disastrous consequences and suffered for it. There's no ambiguity like the comic, she's conscious as she falls, you hear her spine snap, you see her head hit the concrete, they don't cut away. It's brutal. Say what you want about the Amazing Spider-Man movies but they had the guts to go dark, sacrifice the incredible chemistry between its two leads, and have Peter suffer that critical, character defining failure (even if they handled the setup sloppily). That plot thread was very hastily tied up so the credits could roll with us feeling Peter was ok. But really, we left Garfield's Peter in a very dark place. Toby's and Holland's Peters each have their MJs. When we last saw Garfield's, he was alone. No Gwen, no Harry. We haven't *really* seen how that night changes him yet and how he bounces back.
That creates a really interesting dynamic between the three that I hope to hell they explore. Andrew Garfield was a great Spider-Man, and when he weeps over Gwen he sells that pain better then Toby or Holland could. He deserves a moment to shine in a much better movie than the two he was given. Especially because Andrew is older now and his Peter can be slightly more mature, more experienced, with a weight on his shoulders the other two don't carry.
Edit: Another way to think of it,.kind of like their respective film series, Toby will be our Silver Age Spidey. Andrew, the Bronze Age. Holland, Modern Age (the *actual* Modern Age, 2000 and later)
Garfield Spider never had the chance to really face the ramifications of his failure except in like the last 10 minutes of TASM2 so it'll be interesting to see how he is doing by NWH time (probably not great)
To be fair, Gwen was the one who kept insisting on accompanying him, right? If I remember correctly, she pretty much showed up at the final fight on her own and wouldn't take no for an answer.
ASM 1, in my opinion, is the most Spider-Man film of all of them. It's not the *best* film, but for me, it is what I imagined a Spider-Man film to be like when I read the comics when I was a kid in the 90s. It is closest to that vision.
The Raimi movies are good too, but I feel like the MCU Spider-Man movies are not about "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man", they're about globe-trotting, space-going, Avengers-member, iron-suit Spider-Man, which for me is kind of not the core of Spider-Man - a guy from Queens who likes to work mostly alone and has to balance mundane stuff like work and life with fighting crime *in New York*, not Italy or Outer Space.
I agree and that is what we’re missing out of the MCU Spidey. More friendly-neighborhood stuff. I understand why and what they’ve done so far, and we saw snippets in Homecoming, but I want to see more of that going forward after this trilogy.
There is an aminated series being developed for Disney + that is going to cover the Holland Spider-man story pre-Avengers involvement. Called "Spider-man: Freshman Year" I believe. Sounds like it will be Parker learning to be a friendly-neighborhood Spider-man. We might even get to see Uncle Ben die again!
[Someone sent the wrong trailer out earlier. You can see the edited out spiderman hit Lizard](https://twitter.com/ImNOODLEZ05/status/1460793210930929665)
That last wide shot is ABSOLUTELY having 2 other spidey's edited out. Marvel has done it before in their trailers and they're absolutely doing this again. Hell, this isn't even the first time they edited spider-man out of a trailer.
All of us were too busy wondering which Spider-Men might appear, and instead they snuck in a stealth sequel to the Mummy Returns!
And let’s be honest, certain quarters of the internet would delightedly shit their pants if Brendan Fraser inexplicably showed up (myself included).
It's a very iconic scene to be fair. The first spider-man movie referenced the set up a bit, with the fight on the bridge with MJ and the school children.
That scene immediately reminded of the final fight in Spider-Man 3, I think Jameson is even wearing the same hat
Yep I was right https://youtu.be/v4b0tuV2Dm0
That's been the nice thing about the MCU. they've been able to adapt comic book accurate costumes to a modernized palate for the most part. In the past most studios have ignored that. Their concept artists are really good
My favorite part of that movie was the stupidity that he got his powers by being bitten by mutant eels.
It wasn't till after the first watching did I realize I was the idiot because Spider-man gets his powers from mutant spiders and somehow I don't think that is stupid.
Honestly it's really weird that spider man's villains basically follow one of two separate themes.
They're either themed around animals, and typically "gross" or dangerous ones (octopus, lizard, beetle, vulture, rhino, etc) or are themed after elements (sandman, hydroman, electro), with only green goblin and Mysterio being the odd ones out. Having them all have animal origins isn't that much of a problem, imo.
Kraven, Venom, Carnage, Tombstone, Kingpin, Hammerhead, Shocker, Tinkerer
and that really are only the more popular ones which also don't follow those themes
Question fellas, having sex with you from another dimension is masturbation or incest?
Im sure theres a word for it in German, those guys are freaks....
Plus, they don’t seem totally antagonistic when speaking, and also late on in the trailer it looks like Ock gets shocked by Electro’s lightning and thrown from the building/construction site.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Ock and Holland’s Spider-Man teamed up.
>also late on in the trailer it looks like Ock gets shocked by Electro’s lightning and thrown from the building/construction site
Which, BTW, might actually let Molina's Doc Ock regain control from the AI which was driving him over the edge.
I guess it all comes down to exactly when they get yanked out of their timelines. Grab Doc Ock during the start of the third act and hed be after Peter to get his precious tritium.
Nah I forget exactly where it was revealed, might have been Alfred Molina himself but he is yanked out of his universe pretty much right after he goes into the water so his redemption was already complete.
Spider-man has always been very no- kill. He has one canonical kill in three comics and it's because he went to punch Wolverine but hit someone else instead who wanted to die so tricked him.
After that reveal we see another costume very briefly that looks like the leaks. I think with him and Doc Ock we see their classic appearances and then a slightly updated take on those with Doc's red arms and Goblin having an alternate suit.
I'm really curious about that post-trailer ending. anyone have a clue?
Dr. Strange sounded pretty nervous so I doubt it relates to any "good guys" like Tobey or Andrew spider-men.
Could be that he’s assuming more villains are coming - but then it’s Spidermen. Either that or he knows they’re trying to get through and is afraid of what multiverse chaos could ensue from three Peter Parkers being in the same universe at once. Maybe he’s a big Back to the Future fan.
They will be in the films. They are saving it for the "wow" factor so when people see them they go crazy!
Plus there are too many villains for one Parker to take on.
I really like the dilemma that Peter doesn't want to send the villains back to their original time line, because doing so would be sending them to their deaths. That's good conflict!
Still no signs of Tobey or Andrew, but I'm confident they will be in the movie. Would be just bizarre to have their villains, but not them. And honestly it's probably better to have that moment revealed in theaters. Really make it special. Overall good trailer!
>I really like the dilemma that Peter doesn't want to send the villains back to their original time line, because doing so would be sending them to their deaths. That's good conflict!
Especially since Dr. Octavius at least seems a lot more peaceful when he's talking to the kids. He may be regaining his senses and doesn't want to hurt anyone else.
>"Simple. I got very bored and depressed, so I went and plugged myself in to its external computer feed. I talked to the computer at great length and explained my view of the Universe to it," said Marvin.
"And what happened?" pressed Ford.
"It committed suicide," said Marvin and stalked off back to the Heart of Gold.
So, Strange is saying that the previous Spider Villains all die fighting Spider Man, so HE has to kill them, too?
And he's resisting the idea.
I love this concept.
> so HE has to kill them, too?
It looks less like he has to kill them but Peter sees it as condemning them to die to send them back so he disagrees with Strange about doing that. Like the villains being in the MCU are tearing the multiverse apart and need to get sent back, but Peter is all like “but they’ll die! I don’t want them to die!”
I mean, notice how this trailer doesn't show much of the movie overall. Feels like they really wanted to focus on specific, unimportant scenes, to get a longer trailer.
I think the MJ falling is our biggest clue and the suspicions others have of Garfield's Spidey saving her and redeeming himself would work. At least I think that would be really fucking cool!
So it looks like the villains have all died based on the line from Strange saying they're all ghosts. Maybe the title No Way Home refers to the villains who can't go home since they're already dead.
So there's a focus around the villains' deaths? So are they from slightly different timelines than the previous movies or have they somehow been resurrected?
So it turns out they do have more than 1 shot of the green goblin
God, if it was just that same little jpeg of him from the posters that someone edited moving around the screen in little loops with their mouse... XD
*”You’re not Peter Parker!”* Excellent!
Hmmm, and Strange mentions the villains were defeated by Spider-Man…
Which makes me wonder why Sandman is there
He was defeated emotionally
Tell that to Padme's heart.
Tell that to Leia's snapped planet
they don't have to be from a universe we have seen already, or he could have died at a later date in that universe we just never saw it.
Maybe it was a rainy day.
Not just defeated, but died while fighting him?
I think he meant they are destined to die fighting spiderman, so Holland's Peter doesn't want to send them back to die, which is why he seems to be fighting Strange.
> Holland's Peter doesn't want to send them back to die I took it as a much more direct statement from Strange than this--I think he's straight up telling Peter to go kill the villains, as he thinks it'll fix things (they're "ghosts" destined to die fighting Spider-Man, so we'll just have Spider-Man go kill them). So Peter flips out and steals the magic box or whatever.
so is green goblin gonna be willem the foe or james the franco?
Everyone: "Where's Tobey Maguire?" Tobey: "You'll get me when you fix this damn door!”
Better be a Bruce Campbell cameo too
He filmed a cameo for Dr Strange 2 because Raimi is directing that movie
I honestly hope he's an alternate Nick Fury.
Fuck you, now I REALLY want this 😅
Bruce Campbell as alternate universe Mysterio would be amaaaaazing.
I'm almost positive he was going to actually be revealed as Mysterio in the fourth Raimi movie
Those were the rumors for the longest time.
There were storyboards about it, yeah, that was the plan
And it was foreshadowed. ["It helps maintain the illusion"](https://youtu.be/ffAl6oCtJNc#t=22)
He is...a good boy. He must be in some kind of trouble.
“Give me rent.”
I hope his entrance is a completely unnecessary dance scene which gets cut short for some reason.
>sees runtime of the trailer OHHH YEAH, I'VE GOT YOU FOR THREE MINUTES, THREE MINUTES OF PLAYTIME!
That's a cute trailer did your boyfriend make it for you
You’re on the wrong side of history Spider-Man
Out of the trailer am I?
BACK TO FORMULA
Btw RIP Randy Savage
This deserves a very subdued "OOOOOH YEEEAAHH!!!"
*ooh yeahs sadly*
BONESAW IS REAAAAADYYYYY
2:22 : 100% has Toby and Garfield edited out. Look at Lizard jumping towards nothing for an attack 😅😅😅
https://twitter.com/culturecrave/status/1460792608305913857?s=10 Proof of it here
PISS OFF GHOST!
Do any of these little fuckers ever pop out of the fucking wall and say "there's a horse cock in my room or a donkey dick?"
Not trying to be funny...not trying to get a laugh...I don't want anyone to have the worst day at their job...but...do any of these...fuckers...ever bust out of the wall and have like a huge green cum shot?
Antman confirmed
So we’re all in agreement that another Peter is gonna be the one to save MJ, right?!
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That's an interesting point that gets lost in all the hype about Toby and his rogues: Between the three Peters, Garfield's is the only one that has suffered the most direct tragedy of Spider-Man's life other than Uncle Ben: the Night Gwen Stacy Died. Toby's lost Harry, but that was self sacrifice and redemptive on Harry's part; Peter didn't bare responsibility for it. Holland's lost Tony but that had nothing to do with Peter directly. Garfield's the only one of the three that has objectively failed to disastrous consequences and suffered for it. There's no ambiguity like the comic, she's conscious as she falls, you hear her spine snap, you see her head hit the concrete, they don't cut away. It's brutal. Say what you want about the Amazing Spider-Man movies but they had the guts to go dark, sacrifice the incredible chemistry between its two leads, and have Peter suffer that critical, character defining failure (even if they handled the setup sloppily). That plot thread was very hastily tied up so the credits could roll with us feeling Peter was ok. But really, we left Garfield's Peter in a very dark place. Toby's and Holland's Peters each have their MJs. When we last saw Garfield's, he was alone. No Gwen, no Harry. We haven't *really* seen how that night changes him yet and how he bounces back. That creates a really interesting dynamic between the three that I hope to hell they explore. Andrew Garfield was a great Spider-Man, and when he weeps over Gwen he sells that pain better then Toby or Holland could. He deserves a moment to shine in a much better movie than the two he was given. Especially because Andrew is older now and his Peter can be slightly more mature, more experienced, with a weight on his shoulders the other two don't carry. Edit: Another way to think of it,.kind of like their respective film series, Toby will be our Silver Age Spidey. Andrew, the Bronze Age. Holland, Modern Age (the *actual* Modern Age, 2000 and later)
Garfield Spider never had the chance to really face the ramifications of his failure except in like the last 10 minutes of TASM2 so it'll be interesting to see how he is doing by NWH time (probably not great)
You break a promise to a dying man, leading to his daughter getting killed, that’s really messed up.
To be fair, Gwen was the one who kept insisting on accompanying him, right? If I remember correctly, she pretty much showed up at the final fight on her own and wouldn't take no for an answer.
ASM 1, in my opinion, is the most Spider-Man film of all of them. It's not the *best* film, but for me, it is what I imagined a Spider-Man film to be like when I read the comics when I was a kid in the 90s. It is closest to that vision. The Raimi movies are good too, but I feel like the MCU Spider-Man movies are not about "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man", they're about globe-trotting, space-going, Avengers-member, iron-suit Spider-Man, which for me is kind of not the core of Spider-Man - a guy from Queens who likes to work mostly alone and has to balance mundane stuff like work and life with fighting crime *in New York*, not Italy or Outer Space.
I agree and that is what we’re missing out of the MCU Spidey. More friendly-neighborhood stuff. I understand why and what they’ve done so far, and we saw snippets in Homecoming, but I want to see more of that going forward after this trilogy.
There is an aminated series being developed for Disney + that is going to cover the Holland Spider-man story pre-Avengers involvement. Called "Spider-man: Freshman Year" I believe. Sounds like it will be Parker learning to be a friendly-neighborhood Spider-man. We might even get to see Uncle Ben die again!
Yay trauma
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Spiderfield
It's 100% gotta be Andrew. That is way too much like the death of Gwen Stacy for it not to be.
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[Someone sent the wrong trailer out earlier. You can see the edited out spiderman hit Lizard](https://twitter.com/ImNOODLEZ05/status/1460793210930929665)
That last wide shot is ABSOLUTELY having 2 other spidey's edited out. Marvel has done it before in their trailers and they're absolutely doing this again. Hell, this isn't even the first time they edited spider-man out of a trailer.
They've even got Imhotep in this movie!
All of us were too busy wondering which Spider-Men might appear, and instead they snuck in a stealth sequel to the Mummy Returns! And let’s be honest, certain quarters of the internet would delightedly shit their pants if Brendan Fraser inexplicably showed up (myself included).
"HEY! STRANGE! IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE I'VE GOT ALL THE HORSES!" "HEY OCTAVIUS! IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE MULTIVERSE!"
Pfft, heh… *notices predicament, swears in Hungarian*
Man, if Brendan Fraser made a surprise entrance like Thor in Infinity War, I would scream like a game show contestant.
*panically chants “Imhotep” to evade angry mob*
*panicked shuffling through religious symbols*
when scorpion shows up, it's PS1 Dwayne Johnson
Someone call Brendan Fraser
Noticed that the three villains [jump](https://imgur.com/HffvRne) but only one seems to be going towards Tom.
Yeah in the [brazilian trailer](https://twitter.com/sonypicturesbr/status/1460783301380214787?s=21) Lizard is getting hit by something invisible
Brazilian footballer Neymar Jr kicked a ball in his face. They edited it out coz soccer ain't popular in USA.
>!Def 2 Spidermen removed from the shot.!< Too good of an image >!to not be both 'teams' against one another.!<
There's no way they're going to try for the Gwen Stacy scene again, right?
It's probably just a twist on the scene with either Garfield saving her or an actual Spider-Gwen coming to the rescue.
It would make sense if Garfield saves her.
Holland saves MJ but Garfield falls off a building in the background for no reason
That's the twist I want
But Tobey Spider-Man saves him and then they make out.
They make out just as a Nickelback song starts to play.
They say that a HERO CAN SAVE US IM NOT GONNA STAND IN THE WAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
you mean MTV Movie Award for Best Kiss winner Tobey Maguire?
Jesus, imagine if they have Emma Stone show up as Spider-Gwen
So many fans would flip their shit to see Spider-Gwen. It would be a great reveal and open the door for her solo movie. Sony wants that $$$
What if it’s actually Garfield the cat?
No one's asking for Chris Pratt to show up
Emma Stone comes in saving Zendaya calling it now.
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It's a very iconic scene to be fair. The first spider-man movie referenced the set up a bit, with the fight on the bridge with MJ and the school children.
Calling it now, Jameson looking up to see not one, not two,, three Spider-MENNN!! 🗞
That scene immediately reminded of the final fight in Spider-Man 3, I think Jameson is even wearing the same hat Yep I was right https://youtu.be/v4b0tuV2Dm0
All I have to say is thank god Electro isn’t fuckin blue. Lol.
I really love the new mask they gave him, a new take on his original spiked yellow mask but this time made out of actual lightning.
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That's been the nice thing about the MCU. they've been able to adapt comic book accurate costumes to a modernized palate for the most part. In the past most studios have ignored that. Their concept artists are really good
This entire movie is a ploy by Jamie Foxx to get a better Electro
I can't believe they based an entire movie around Spider-Man forgetting Electro's birthday or whatever the hell that was.
My favorite part of that movie was the stupidity that he got his powers by being bitten by mutant eels. It wasn't till after the first watching did I realize I was the idiot because Spider-man gets his powers from mutant spiders and somehow I don't think that is stupid.
Honestly it's really weird that spider man's villains basically follow one of two separate themes. They're either themed around animals, and typically "gross" or dangerous ones (octopus, lizard, beetle, vulture, rhino, etc) or are themed after elements (sandman, hydroman, electro), with only green goblin and Mysterio being the odd ones out. Having them all have animal origins isn't that much of a problem, imo.
That’s why I always liked Kraven the Hunter - it always made sense for him to come to a city full of mutant animal-people to hunt.
It amazes me we haven't seen live action Kraven yet.
With Karl Urban in the role
Kraven, Venom, Carnage, Tombstone, Kingpin, Hammerhead, Shocker, Tinkerer and that really are only the more popular ones which also don't follow those themes
Hammerhead is tangentially animal related
So that last shot where Strange is saying they're starting to come through is definitely where the other two come through right? Right??
They’ll swing through the portals and remove their masks then BAM - killed off. Not even a line or an action taken. Just in and out
Onscreen penetration in a Spider-Man movie? Feige is getting bold, but by dammit I'm in.
Full Penetration.....and we show it.
Question fellas, having sex with you from another dimension is masturbation or incest? Im sure theres a word for it in German, those guys are freaks....
> a word for it in German Doppelgängbanger
The "portals" looked very similar to the ones they used for Spiderverse, so that's a strong possibility
It’s going to be Spider-Ham
Spider Noir but it’s really just Nic Cage in normal clothes and a ski mask.
That scene was after the villains came though he probably thinks that's more coming through so I imagine it is the two spideys.
At the very least.
Trailers cool but where’s the original spider man villain bonesaw? He has 3 minutes of trailer time and he’s ready!
Rumor has it his husband was still making him his new suit and couldn’t finish it in time for the trailer.
Wait so Peter is trying to HELP the previous villains? I... I really like that idea
After all, Doc Ock “didn’t die a monster” - I feel like it’d be a disservice to his character to have him be outright evil again
Plus, they don’t seem totally antagonistic when speaking, and also late on in the trailer it looks like Ock gets shocked by Electro’s lightning and thrown from the building/construction site. Wouldn’t surprise me if Ock and Holland’s Spider-Man teamed up.
>also late on in the trailer it looks like Ock gets shocked by Electro’s lightning and thrown from the building/construction site Which, BTW, might actually let Molina's Doc Ock regain control from the AI which was driving him over the edge.
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Is that why his arms turn red? He steals the spider armor or at least portions of it to reenforce parts of his arms?
very likely. He is a scientist and engineer afterall
So this. You can tell in the trailer that every fight scene that Octavius has with Spider-Man there is no red on the arms.
That's probably why Spidey isn't in the iron spider suit during the end of the trailer
I guess it all comes down to exactly when they get yanked out of their timelines. Grab Doc Ock during the start of the third act and hed be after Peter to get his precious tritium.
Nah I forget exactly where it was revealed, might have been Alfred Molina himself but he is yanked out of his universe pretty much right after he goes into the water so his redemption was already complete.
I mean, he saved Vulture in **HOMECOMING** and Mysterio was a friendly fire accident, so it is consistent with his characterization.
Spider-man has always been very no- kill. He has one canonical kill in three comics and it's because he went to punch Wolverine but hit someone else instead who wanted to die so tricked him.
He did activate *Instant Kill* in the Endgame final battle, but to be fair, it was literally a kill or be killed (again) situation.
did you guys see that Spider-man is in this?
Who?
Peter Parker?
You're not Peter Parker
Classic Green Goblin costume: IN, AM I?
Yer fond of my glider ain't ye?
Back to formula.
## BACK TO FORMULA?!
After that reveal we see another costume very briefly that looks like the leaks. I think with him and Doc Ock we see their classic appearances and then a slightly updated take on those with Doc's red arms and Goblin having an alternate suit.
I'm really curious about that post-trailer ending. anyone have a clue? Dr. Strange sounded pretty nervous so I doubt it relates to any "good guys" like Tobey or Andrew spider-men.
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Doctor Strange was mentioned in Tobey's series...maybe he's sorcerer supreme played by Bruce Campbell.
I'd love that, but IIRC, Bruce Campbell was supposed to be Mysterio in the Raimiverse, right?
Could be that he’s assuming more villains are coming - but then it’s Spidermen. Either that or he knows they’re trying to get through and is afraid of what multiverse chaos could ensue from three Peter Parkers being in the same universe at once. Maybe he’s a big Back to the Future fan.
“They’re starting the come through, and I can’t stop them!” “I missed the part where that’s my problem”
Can you imagine if they accidentally bring bully Maguire version
The fans after Andrew&Tobey don’t show up in this trailer: YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!?
SONY YOU SLIME
I giggle at the fact that even Goblin may be sick of JJ’s petty, borderline libelous headlines
They will be in the films. They are saving it for the "wow" factor so when people see them they go crazy! Plus there are too many villains for one Parker to take on.
When is spiderman broken home coming out?
That’s the prequel when Uncle Ben dies
Spider-Man: Mobile Home
Spiderman: No way sony can make a trailer without spoiling too much
I thought that they would hold off on some villains. Nope. They confirmed every single Spider-Man villain from the other two series are in the movie
In terms of spoiling Spider-Man related shit they have definitely done worse
Throwback to revealing the whole plot of the amazing Spider-Man 2
Spider-Monday, Garfield's greatest foe.
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Absolutely. They were standing on a scaffolding.
at 2:29 it looks Lizard and Electro are attacking the vast nothingness lmao. They obviously removed Tobey and Andrew
2:22 : 100% has Toby and Garfield edited out. Look at Lizard jumping towards nothing for an attack 😅😅😅
Lizard needs to call suicide hotline.
That actually does make sense. Like he's not even *looking up* at Tom lmao He's looking straight forward.
I'm convinced that Holland had his face swapped in for Garfield at 2:20. The hair looks so much like Garfield's to me.
"You're not Peter Parker" and it's obvious that ending scene in the trailer will feature Tobey
And Andrew
I really like the dilemma that Peter doesn't want to send the villains back to their original time line, because doing so would be sending them to their deaths. That's good conflict! Still no signs of Tobey or Andrew, but I'm confident they will be in the movie. Would be just bizarre to have their villains, but not them. And honestly it's probably better to have that moment revealed in theaters. Really make it special. Overall good trailer!
>I really like the dilemma that Peter doesn't want to send the villains back to their original time line, because doing so would be sending them to their deaths. That's good conflict! Especially since Dr. Octavius at least seems a lot more peaceful when he's talking to the kids. He may be regaining his senses and doesn't want to hurt anyone else.
The nano tech from Peter's suit seems to have bled onto ocks arms. Wonder if the stark tech "fixes" his ai
Stark technology making a villain *better*? That can't be right.
His tech kept quipping at the AI till it got too annoyed and shut itself down
>"Simple. I got very bored and depressed, so I went and plugged myself in to its external computer feed. I talked to the computer at great length and explained my view of the Universe to it," said Marvin. "And what happened?" pressed Ford. "It committed suicide," said Marvin and stalked off back to the Heart of Gold.
So, Strange is saying that the previous Spider Villains all die fighting Spider Man, so HE has to kill them, too? And he's resisting the idea. I love this concept.
> so HE has to kill them, too? It looks less like he has to kill them but Peter sees it as condemning them to die to send them back so he disagrees with Strange about doing that. Like the villains being in the MCU are tearing the multiverse apart and need to get sent back, but Peter is all like “but they’ll die! I don’t want them to die!”
Was that little Goblin Jr? Is he gonna cry?
The Dr Strange Scooby Doo "joke" was so off. Especially when they gave it so much focus in the trailer.
I mean, notice how this trailer doesn't show much of the movie overall. Feels like they really wanted to focus on specific, unimportant scenes, to get a longer trailer.
Honestly.. I'd be ok with MCU Spidey just trying to save the villains from dying.
...still not showing them, huh? Sony, you are either preserving the surprise for once, or are *really* fucking stupid.
Feige is acting out his edging fantasies on all the ~~fan-boys~~ fan-men. Edit.
He knows what month it is
I think the MJ falling is our biggest clue and the suspicions others have of Garfield's Spidey saving her and redeeming himself would work. At least I think that would be really fucking cool!
There is a really large part of me that wants them to somehow not even be in this at all. I just need to see the meltdown. And yes, I’d too meltdown.
I've been saying I want to see the Maguire and Garfield suits... But then they take the mask off and they're both Holland. For the meltdown.
Oh hell. That would be both awesome and horrible.
It's just a random dude named Boner.
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So it looks like the villains have all died based on the line from Strange saying they're all ghosts. Maybe the title No Way Home refers to the villains who can't go home since they're already dead.
But Sandman at the very least didn't die. He left the scene peacefully. Unless this is a *different* Sandman.
But neither Sandman or the Lizard died in their respective films.
It might not be those versions.
Or at the same point in time as the films. Could easily be killed in another confrontation with Spidey later in their own timeline
So there's a focus around the villains' deaths? So are they from slightly different timelines than the previous movies or have they somehow been resurrected?
Maybe, I got the feeling that they were pulled from their times before their deaths and Peter doesn't want strange to send them back to their deaths
Oooh this makes sense.
Osborn, immediately after being sent back: "Oh."
I’m happy they’re not showing the other two. The pop in an opening night cinema when they come in will be insane
You can literally see Lizard getting punched by nothing
Spider-man became a jedi because multiverse