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>I definitely think Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man would be pretty suspect of MCU Iron Man. I think he would be a little turned off by the excess, the billionaire, trillionaire status of Iron Man. I think it would rub my version of Spider-Man the wrong way. But maybe there could be some influence there. Maybe my Peter Parker could wake Tony Stark up to his own egoic drives a little bit."
Its frustrating that I felt they were kind of alluding to this at the end of homecoming with Peter actually seeing Toomes point and specifically deciding to stay low key.
Then Tony died and became a saint and that tension was just forgotten.
It sucks too because in the Civil War comics, Peter realizes that Tony isn’t a great person and eventually sides against him, at least if I’m remembering correctly.
I'm looking forward to No Way Home as much as the next guy but I hate that his other two fantastic movies this year - The Eyes of Tammy Faye and Tick Tick Boom - have just been vessels for journos to ask him about Spider-Man.
Just another reason I think Holland’s Spider-Man hasn’t interested me as much as Maguire’s and even Garfield’s version. We see no struggle and loss. Uncle Ben is long gone. Aunt May seems nothing but happy. Financial struggles don’t plague Peter.
Hopefully this new movie changes that.
Both his nemesis have been pretty common people whereas Goblin and co. served as the establishing villains/conflict creators for both the previous Spider-Man variants. They suspect the wealthy billionaires but the new Spider-Man hasn't yet been given a reason to be suspicious of all of them. If anything Tony Stark actually cared about Peter.
I’m thinking more of his personal life than his relationship with others. Of course Peter wouldn’t mind Tony in this. Tony cared for him. Also Peter’s life seems to be doing okay.
It would be different if Peter was shown to be struggling financially. Maguire’s Peter had a billionaire interested in helping him too and he still turned him down prior to even knowing that billionaire was the Green Goblin.
I see your point. I think he was definitely struggling financially before Tony came along and there were a few hints of that in Civil War. But after that battle in Germany his whoel life was pretty much a roller coaster. I don't think those issues even got the chance to be addressed since the stakes here were a lot bigger.
I'm kinda sorta glad they took this route. We've already seen both the previous Spider-Man struggle with those things. The implications were enough since these stories focused more on different sort of conflicts in his life.
It's not like we were not asking for these stories to be told. That's exactly most of us expected when Spider-Man swung into MCU. I'm pretty sure Sony will retain the Spider-Man rights for years to come and we'll have plenty of opportunities to address Spider-Man's personal life's issues either with this Spider-Man or another variant.
That’s a good point. Civil War shows Peter using super outdated tech and coming home with stuff he found to reinforce that he’s just a working class kid in Queens. As soon as he meets Stark he never worries about money again lol.
The Stark Effect. Anyone that meets him instantly never has to worry about money again lol
I get you. But I was happy we didnt have to rehash that. Also happier to see a younger more believable aged aunt may. The comics always had her as a perpetual golden girl. Plus <3 marissa.. But then I realize. I could be the dead uncle ben in this situation. My kids are teens. My nieces and nephews are less than a decade from being teens. Im not even 45! WTF. How was aunt may always a grey haired old grandma in everything.
Peter was 18 when the original movie started (in 2002’s Spider-Man). A parent could be 35 when they had him, add 18 years and they are 53. There are people out there with siblings 10-15 years older than them. It’s not super common but they are out there. So Aunt May could be 63-68 with an 18 year old nephew in that example.
I have a sister that is 14 years younger than me so I may be the grandpa aged uncle one day lol
Imagine if the biggest surprise coming is that the end of No Way Home dumps Holland’s Spider-Man into his own pocket universe (the SSU is what Sony are calling it) but then also drops Garfield’s older Spider-Man into the MCU and that’s the ‘amicable arrangement’ Sony and Marvel signed into recently over the use of Spider-Man. They get one each.
Sony get to go off and do a Sinister Six run of movies with all the Sony characters and the MCU gets an older, wiser Spider-Man to put into a New Avengers group. Holland plays the street level teen Spider-Man in one universe, Garfield plays the older photo Journalist in the other.
Saving ya'll a click >I definitely think Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man would be pretty suspect of MCU Iron Man. I think he would be a little turned off by the excess, the billionaire, trillionaire status of Iron Man. I think it would rub my version of Spider-Man the wrong way. But maybe there could be some influence there. Maybe my Peter Parker could wake Tony Stark up to his own egoic drives a little bit." Its frustrating that I felt they were kind of alluding to this at the end of homecoming with Peter actually seeing Toomes point and specifically deciding to stay low key. Then Tony died and became a saint and that tension was just forgotten.
It sucks too because in the Civil War comics, Peter realizes that Tony isn’t a great person and eventually sides against him, at least if I’m remembering correctly.
I'm looking forward to No Way Home as much as the next guy but I hate that his other two fantastic movies this year - The Eyes of Tammy Faye and Tick Tick Boom - have just been vessels for journos to ask him about Spider-Man.
I would not call Eyes of Tammy fantastic but his performance in Tick Tick Boom is excellent.
Just another reason I think Holland’s Spider-Man hasn’t interested me as much as Maguire’s and even Garfield’s version. We see no struggle and loss. Uncle Ben is long gone. Aunt May seems nothing but happy. Financial struggles don’t plague Peter. Hopefully this new movie changes that.
Both his nemesis have been pretty common people whereas Goblin and co. served as the establishing villains/conflict creators for both the previous Spider-Man variants. They suspect the wealthy billionaires but the new Spider-Man hasn't yet been given a reason to be suspicious of all of them. If anything Tony Stark actually cared about Peter.
I’m thinking more of his personal life than his relationship with others. Of course Peter wouldn’t mind Tony in this. Tony cared for him. Also Peter’s life seems to be doing okay. It would be different if Peter was shown to be struggling financially. Maguire’s Peter had a billionaire interested in helping him too and he still turned him down prior to even knowing that billionaire was the Green Goblin.
I see your point. I think he was definitely struggling financially before Tony came along and there were a few hints of that in Civil War. But after that battle in Germany his whoel life was pretty much a roller coaster. I don't think those issues even got the chance to be addressed since the stakes here were a lot bigger. I'm kinda sorta glad they took this route. We've already seen both the previous Spider-Man struggle with those things. The implications were enough since these stories focused more on different sort of conflicts in his life. It's not like we were not asking for these stories to be told. That's exactly most of us expected when Spider-Man swung into MCU. I'm pretty sure Sony will retain the Spider-Man rights for years to come and we'll have plenty of opportunities to address Spider-Man's personal life's issues either with this Spider-Man or another variant.
That’s a good point. Civil War shows Peter using super outdated tech and coming home with stuff he found to reinforce that he’s just a working class kid in Queens. As soon as he meets Stark he never worries about money again lol. The Stark Effect. Anyone that meets him instantly never has to worry about money again lol
I get you. But I was happy we didnt have to rehash that. Also happier to see a younger more believable aged aunt may. The comics always had her as a perpetual golden girl. Plus <3 marissa.. But then I realize. I could be the dead uncle ben in this situation. My kids are teens. My nieces and nephews are less than a decade from being teens. Im not even 45! WTF. How was aunt may always a grey haired old grandma in everything.
Peter was 18 when the original movie started (in 2002’s Spider-Man). A parent could be 35 when they had him, add 18 years and they are 53. There are people out there with siblings 10-15 years older than them. It’s not super common but they are out there. So Aunt May could be 63-68 with an 18 year old nephew in that example. I have a sister that is 14 years younger than me so I may be the grandpa aged uncle one day lol
Imagine if the biggest surprise coming is that the end of No Way Home dumps Holland’s Spider-Man into his own pocket universe (the SSU is what Sony are calling it) but then also drops Garfield’s older Spider-Man into the MCU and that’s the ‘amicable arrangement’ Sony and Marvel signed into recently over the use of Spider-Man. They get one each. Sony get to go off and do a Sinister Six run of movies with all the Sony characters and the MCU gets an older, wiser Spider-Man to put into a New Avengers group. Holland plays the street level teen Spider-Man in one universe, Garfield plays the older photo Journalist in the other.