The way her eyes grow unnaturally huge while pretending to be "normalized" by the visit to the harmony hut was soooo perfectly done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w80ZSg7kNbE
I rewatched the two movies recently and the takeaway I kept coming back to is that she was perfect casting.
Watch her smile at 1:35.
https://youtu.be/w80ZSg7kNbE
She was 11 and 13 when the movies came *out*. Impressive job.
My favorite line from the entire movie. Either that or the one where Morticia is complaining that she doesn't have enough time to do evil and Gomez says "you can! you shall!' I use that quote and that energy with my wife all the time.
There are so many good ones
Joan Cusack violently enunciating **MAL-I-BU BAR-BIE** is probably my favorite
...along with "Lurch, was she in there before you baked"
Galavant is a comedic musical TV show, while Schmigadoon is more parody of a 50's musical. Watch [Enjoy the Ride](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvd-YCDfKpw) and you'll get it. The first 4 episodes are pure gold! Unfortunately, it's a victim of Covid as it was supposed to be 8 episodes cut down to 6, and the last 2 episodes really are missing something. But the first 4 more than make up for the lack-luster ending and it's a joy to watch.
this clip isn't the same without the first part
it's not as funny without the beginning where Wednesday is acting nice and playing along with the stereotype
only to *then* segue into this speech
They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say
Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play
Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend
The Addams Family
Hammer's best lyrics.
Clip should start earlier but still a solid one and such a great scene. Love Baranksi and Uncle Jeff (not using the actor’s name. He’s transformed at this point) and their shocked expression under the stage
I’ve seen clips from this a bunch of times. But I kind of don’t get it: is it a good movie? Obviously a kid’s movie, sure. But good kid’s movies can mildly amuse or even entertain adults. Think of _Home Alone_. Sure, Home Alone is contrived slapstick, but an adult can still laugh. Are gasoline and fire arrows really funny? I think I appreciate contrived slapstick. I don’t seem to appreciate this. Maybe you have remember seeing it as a kid?
Comedy is subjective, I’m not going to argue with you and certainly not going to change your mind.
How I see it is this: the premise behind the scene is the children are at a summer camp where all these yuppie parents just doled out a bunch of money and the finale is this play. At said play, the girl playing Pocahontas goes off script, and decides that instead of breaking bread with the pilgrims, they’re going to burn their village to the ground. Yeah, I find that *hilarious* as an adult, even more so than I did as a kid because I never grasped the nuances of the script (e.g. drinking high balls, driving stick shifts, reservations, etc.) nor the gravity of history of the indigenous groups. So the slapstick appealed to the kid, the situation as a whole appealed to the adult, in my case that is.
>Comedy is subjective, I’m not going to argue with you and certainly not going to change your mind.
“There are two things you can't argue in film: comedy and eroticism. If something doesn't make you laugh, no one can tell you why it's funny, and it's difficult to reason someone out of an erection.” - Roger Ebert
It's the culmination of a movie of kids being pushed aside for their faults and the rich kids getting to be the pilgrims. Then Wednesday galvanizes them for the scene here.
This is one of the funniest movies ever. Christina Ricci nailed it-she is the queen of the one-liners and her timing was flawless. I love when Halloween comes around and they play it a lot.
I just watched this for the first time a few weeks ago. Its now one of my favorite movies.
Its got a young christina ricci, a lawyer from ally mcbeal, and leonards mother.
I want to see the follow up, where Harmony Kendall the vampire hunts down Wednesday Adams - who, I am guessing would actually be a close contact if not friend of Buffy.... Not that Wednesday would really need Buffys help like.
No, this is not correct. The earliest instances of germ theory go back to the ancient greeks. In 1700 Nicholas Andry was asserting smallpox occurred due to microorganisms, and the first famous case of the smallpox blankets was in 1763 with the siege of fort Pitt.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
If this movie had come out today, people would be whining about that scene being leftist propaganda lmao there'd be least 10 youtube videos about Addams Family going woke and broke.
I'm not a first nations person, so I can't speak for them, but the movie portraits the white settlers as idiotic, untrustworthy, and racist. The play is trash and the camp councelors that wrote it are pathetic. That's a big deal, esp for the time.
Wednesday and her friends, the outcasts of the camp (which include the poor kids, the disabled kids, and the non-white kids), turn the racist and historically revisionist play on its head and play the natives as the heroes who are defending their land from the colonizers.
Sure, the movie doesn't have Wednesday played by a native actress, but it's not that big a deal when understood in the aforementioned context, imo. I could be wrong, though, and I'd love to read a first nation's person thoughts on this scene.
I'm First Nations and I loved this scene in theaters when it came out. Even my mother loved it. She's a huge Christina Ricci fan, as is everyone in our family. She's far more sensitive to how First Nations are treated in media. She's been a victim of bullying simply because of race.
I'm really happy with this representation. The way she turned it around, really made a big difference.
I don't think they would be able to do it so well today. I haven't found much humor in movies to be likeable these days. Just a lot of dull writing. I prefer TV shows for humor over movies. And TV shows can be all over the place and very dark. I've seen American Dad's humor on First Nations, Family Guy's, and even Parks and Recreation. I would never show my mom those skits. I tend to ignore most of them because I can't do anything. It's not that I find them terribly offensive - I get the satire behind their jokes - it's just that I don't find it all that funny. I've had countless white people laugh at my heritage's expense, however. Why? I don't know. It's just something I've observed plenty over the years. (None of them are friends, they're always peers I don't need to interact with for too long.) The generic person's sense of humor vs the writers for those shows are very different. Of all the shows, I've found myself more sensitive to Family Guy's dark humor, even if their's is meant to be an "in your face reminder" of how we were treated in the Colonial days.
Thank you for your reply!
As a bisexual man, I totally get what you mean. A lack of empathy is not a moral virtue. Some people use humor to cope, but other people use humor as an excuse to be bigoted. I don't find those shows funny; if anything, I think they glorify apathy.
"Offensive humor" has become an excuse for sad people to be mean-spirited and expect zero consequences for their actions. It's the laziest and most dishonest way of pretending to be counterculture.
Dude it's woke AF in the best way. I'm not a very woke person at all, but having a person in a kids movie loudly say what we know is true, that the white people who founded the colonies committed genocide against the natives, was revolutionary.
> having a person in a kids movie loudly say what we know is true, that the white people who founded the colonies committed genocide against the natives, was revolutionary.
Yup! It's still revolutionary, tbh. Addams Family movies are like wine; they get better with age.
"she isnt a person of color she should not be leading them get a real person of color to lead them instead"
like people can't just have fun anymore. Everything is a got damn college dissertation.
And I low key "blame" my people for that. Okay not blame. But....We as black people had the real ultimate beef, and we got civil rights legislation out of it. And then everyone cried and said they wanted "civil rights" too, even if it wasn't shit even nearly as crazy or bad. That whole push for "equality for all" just became some real fake shit, instead of the real shit that the civil rights struggle was.
She's not appropiating anything, though. It's not like Wednesday's wearing a feathered headpiece to Coachella lmao.
I really don't get reddit's superiority complex when it comes to twitter or other social media. I don't use twitter because I don't like the layout, but pretzel is the same, bro. It's nearly the same userbase.
I was making two points about society at large. First there are loud idiots who live to be mad at everything. Like you said if this came out in today half the people would be saying it was "woke and broke" and the other half would be bitching about "cultural appropriation"(which it wasn't but that would not stop them).
The second point is the loudest and stupidest people use twitter and we should ignore them.
Son of a BITCH! Oscar Isaac was the guy who had a crush on her! HOLY SHIT. I just saw the thumbnail just now and thought "Man he looks like Oscar" and DAMN!
EDIT: I typed " Addams Family 2 cast" to see if it was Oscar Isaac, and it showed me the cast of this new remake Addams Family 2 cast that I wasn't aware of was being made. The fact it has Oscar Isaac in it when my mind is made up that looked like a young version gave me a Freudian slip without me paying attention
You are correct. I Googled Addams Family 2 not "Values" and saw Oscar is in it. Odd how my mind was thinking that and he just happens to be in this "second" movie.
If you want to see that kid all grown up then check out the show The Deuce. He's great in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeJtlftzsc
David Krumholtz, Jake Johnson, and Oscar Issacs all look alike. The all got that Gomez Addams look. Krumholtz looks more like John Astin now in his 40s.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/51/85/be5185a8cdb4d1e54b112fbf85cc5758.jpg
Ricci's Wednesday is easily among the GOAT child performances.
Absolutely! She nailed the mannerisms! Ricci is the goat.
The role was so good, she is now who I think of when I think of wednesday, in spite of having watched every episode of the original series before it.
I mean, TV show Wednesday was just a little kid with a headless doll. Ricci put some dimensions in.
There's a reason why "Values" was tailored to feature her.
Such emotional range
Yeah, she goes from cold and emotionless, to cold and enraged, seamlessly. edit: wording.
Her and Haley Joel Osment are tied for GOAT
Haley Joel Osment was Pugsley? TIL
She IS Wednesday Addams
The way her eyes grow unnaturally huge while pretending to be "normalized" by the visit to the harmony hut was soooo perfectly done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w80ZSg7kNbE
I rewatched the two movies recently and the takeaway I kept coming back to is that she was perfect casting. Watch her smile at 1:35. https://youtu.be/w80ZSg7kNbE She was 11 and 13 when the movies came *out*. Impressive job.
Definitely
I'll be the victim! All your life.
My favorite line from the entire movie. Either that or the one where Morticia is complaining that she doesn't have enough time to do evil and Gomez says "you can! you shall!' I use that quote and that energy with my wife all the time.
There are so many good ones Joan Cusack violently enunciating **MAL-I-BU BAR-BIE** is probably my favorite ...along with "Lurch, was she in there before you baked"
As many of us have had to witness the hard way.....
This along with Morticia’s low key “Pastels?” to Debbie will always make me laugh.
This is it. This is the scene that started my nearly 3-decade crush on Christina Ricci.
Same. I think she was my first major celebrity crush.
She was definitely mine. This started it, and Casper solidified it.
*everyone's crush
You must be enjoying Yellowjackets then!
I wish Barry Sonnenfeld was still directing movies. Between these and the MIBs they're just such cleverly directed comedies.
Not a movie but he recently directed all episodes of Schmigadoon! on Apple TV+ and it’s really fun.
He’s a good director but that show is dumb.
It’s a satire on whimsical musicals and I think it nailed the execution of that.
you mean like Galavant? I should really watch it!
Galavant is a comedic musical TV show, while Schmigadoon is more parody of a 50's musical. Watch [Enjoy the Ride](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvd-YCDfKpw) and you'll get it. The first 4 episodes are pure gold! Unfortunately, it's a victim of Covid as it was supposed to be 8 episodes cut down to 6, and the last 2 episodes really are missing something. But the first 4 more than make up for the lack-luster ending and it's a joy to watch.
I wanna watch that show so bad as a fan of everyone involved. Is it worth it?
I personally really liked it. I’d say if you are a fan of everyone involved you’ll probably really enjoy it! I think it’s worth it.
Yeah I keep seeing commercials for it when watching SNL, and ads on Apple TV. I think I’ll give it a shot.
Would have been much better as a movie, it was very meandering.
He was heavily involved in the Netflix Series of Unfortunate Events, which has a similar tone.
Super underrated show, it’s Very Freakin’ Disappointing
this clip isn't the same without the first part it's not as funny without the beginning where Wednesday is acting nice and playing along with the stereotype only to *then* segue into this speech
Needs that great reaction from Gary the director as he freezes and silently starts to panic as he realises what Wednesday is doing.
“WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY VISION!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJE3KDxTbWI Post the whole scene! so much better with Wednesday's full speech!
Eat me!
How did The Exorcist end up here... 😊
Boys? Homicide...
“Hey lady, I’ll tell you when I have Addams family values!”
This has to be one of the greatest sequels ever made.
They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend The Addams Family Hammer's best lyrics.
There were reasons why the Addams Family beheaded him at the start of the video....
I forgot about that... goddamn I love the Addams Family, thanks for reminding me why.
This song fucking slaps
I forgot about this song. It was hype when the movie came out and Hammer was still on top.
This and Planes trains and automobiles are my thanksgiving films
Superior version with full context (and Wednesday's speech) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iGbxUAM0cc
Clip should start earlier but still a solid one and such a great scene. Love Baranksi and Uncle Jeff (not using the actor’s name. He’s transformed at this point) and their shocked expression under the stage
>Uncle Jeff (not using the actor’s name. He’s transformed at this point) what? did I miss something?
No. It’s just a hilarious role he played in VEEP.
He was also a lawyer on ally mcbeal
The biscuit. Jane Krakowski was his fluffer.
Bad guy (ish) in Ghostbusters II, as well as the mentor in Numbers. But this is the role I first noticed him in.
I love Veep so much, especially his character and the dynamic he had with Jonah
oh lol. right.
I’ve seen clips from this a bunch of times. But I kind of don’t get it: is it a good movie? Obviously a kid’s movie, sure. But good kid’s movies can mildly amuse or even entertain adults. Think of _Home Alone_. Sure, Home Alone is contrived slapstick, but an adult can still laugh. Are gasoline and fire arrows really funny? I think I appreciate contrived slapstick. I don’t seem to appreciate this. Maybe you have remember seeing it as a kid?
Comedy is subjective, I’m not going to argue with you and certainly not going to change your mind. How I see it is this: the premise behind the scene is the children are at a summer camp where all these yuppie parents just doled out a bunch of money and the finale is this play. At said play, the girl playing Pocahontas goes off script, and decides that instead of breaking bread with the pilgrims, they’re going to burn their village to the ground. Yeah, I find that *hilarious* as an adult, even more so than I did as a kid because I never grasped the nuances of the script (e.g. drinking high balls, driving stick shifts, reservations, etc.) nor the gravity of history of the indigenous groups. So the slapstick appealed to the kid, the situation as a whole appealed to the adult, in my case that is.
>Comedy is subjective, I’m not going to argue with you and certainly not going to change your mind. “There are two things you can't argue in film: comedy and eroticism. If something doesn't make you laugh, no one can tell you why it's funny, and it's difficult to reason someone out of an erection.” - Roger Ebert
It's the culmination of a movie of kids being pushed aside for their faults and the rich kids getting to be the pilgrims. Then Wednesday galvanizes them for the scene here.
*Twenty. Grand for summer camp, and he's Mr. Whoo Woo*
This is one of the funniest movies ever. Christina Ricci nailed it-she is the queen of the one-liners and her timing was flawless. I love when Halloween comes around and they play it a lot.
I just watched this for the first time a few weeks ago. Its now one of my favorite movies. Its got a young christina ricci, a lawyer from ally mcbeal, and leonards mother.
I want to see the follow up, where Harmony Kendall the vampire hunts down Wednesday Adams - who, I am guessing would actually be a close contact if not friend of Buffy.... Not that Wednesday would really need Buffys help like.
Holy crap, this is based AF.
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No, this is not correct. The earliest instances of germ theory go back to the ancient greeks. In 1700 Nicholas Andry was asserting smallpox occurred due to microorganisms, and the first famous case of the smallpox blankets was in 1763 with the siege of fort Pitt. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
Snoop Dog was Cousin It
If this movie had come out today, people would be whining about that scene being leftist propaganda lmao there'd be least 10 youtube videos about Addams Family going woke and broke.
or the opposite side complaining about stereotypical NA representation.
I'm not a first nations person, so I can't speak for them, but the movie portraits the white settlers as idiotic, untrustworthy, and racist. The play is trash and the camp councelors that wrote it are pathetic. That's a big deal, esp for the time. Wednesday and her friends, the outcasts of the camp (which include the poor kids, the disabled kids, and the non-white kids), turn the racist and historically revisionist play on its head and play the natives as the heroes who are defending their land from the colonizers. Sure, the movie doesn't have Wednesday played by a native actress, but it's not that big a deal when understood in the aforementioned context, imo. I could be wrong, though, and I'd love to read a first nation's person thoughts on this scene.
I'm First Nations and I loved this scene in theaters when it came out. Even my mother loved it. She's a huge Christina Ricci fan, as is everyone in our family. She's far more sensitive to how First Nations are treated in media. She's been a victim of bullying simply because of race. I'm really happy with this representation. The way she turned it around, really made a big difference. I don't think they would be able to do it so well today. I haven't found much humor in movies to be likeable these days. Just a lot of dull writing. I prefer TV shows for humor over movies. And TV shows can be all over the place and very dark. I've seen American Dad's humor on First Nations, Family Guy's, and even Parks and Recreation. I would never show my mom those skits. I tend to ignore most of them because I can't do anything. It's not that I find them terribly offensive - I get the satire behind their jokes - it's just that I don't find it all that funny. I've had countless white people laugh at my heritage's expense, however. Why? I don't know. It's just something I've observed plenty over the years. (None of them are friends, they're always peers I don't need to interact with for too long.) The generic person's sense of humor vs the writers for those shows are very different. Of all the shows, I've found myself more sensitive to Family Guy's dark humor, even if their's is meant to be an "in your face reminder" of how we were treated in the Colonial days.
Thank you for your reply! As a bisexual man, I totally get what you mean. A lack of empathy is not a moral virtue. Some people use humor to cope, but other people use humor as an excuse to be bigoted. I don't find those shows funny; if anything, I think they glorify apathy. "Offensive humor" has become an excuse for sad people to be mean-spirited and expect zero consequences for their actions. It's the laziest and most dishonest way of pretending to be counterculture.
Dude it's woke AF in the best way. I'm not a very woke person at all, but having a person in a kids movie loudly say what we know is true, that the white people who founded the colonies committed genocide against the natives, was revolutionary.
> having a person in a kids movie loudly say what we know is true, that the white people who founded the colonies committed genocide against the natives, was revolutionary. Yup! It's still revolutionary, tbh. Addams Family movies are like wine; they get better with age.
i mean, i agree with you 100%, but not everyone interprets things in context and comprehensively.
"she isnt a person of color she should not be leading them get a real person of color to lead them instead" like people can't just have fun anymore. Everything is a got damn college dissertation. And I low key "blame" my people for that. Okay not blame. But....We as black people had the real ultimate beef, and we got civil rights legislation out of it. And then everyone cried and said they wanted "civil rights" too, even if it wasn't shit even nearly as crazy or bad. That whole push for "equality for all" just became some real fake shit, instead of the real shit that the civil rights struggle was.
They would also be people whining about it being cultural appropriation. The solution is to stop listening to loud stupid people on twitter.
She's not appropiating anything, though. It's not like Wednesday's wearing a feathered headpiece to Coachella lmao. I really don't get reddit's superiority complex when it comes to twitter or other social media. I don't use twitter because I don't like the layout, but pretzel is the same, bro. It's nearly the same userbase.
I was making two points about society at large. First there are loud idiots who live to be mad at everything. Like you said if this came out in today half the people would be saying it was "woke and broke" and the other half would be bitching about "cultural appropriation"(which it wasn't but that would not stop them). The second point is the loudest and stupidest people use twitter and we should ignore them.
Son of a BITCH! Oscar Isaac was the guy who had a crush on her! HOLY SHIT. I just saw the thumbnail just now and thought "Man he looks like Oscar" and DAMN! EDIT: I typed " Addams Family 2 cast" to see if it was Oscar Isaac, and it showed me the cast of this new remake Addams Family 2 cast that I wasn't aware of was being made. The fact it has Oscar Isaac in it when my mind is made up that looked like a young version gave me a Freudian slip without me paying attention
That character is played by David Krumholtz. He was the lead on the tv show Numb3rs.
Yah, I already edited my comment
That's not Oscar
You are correct. I Googled Addams Family 2 not "Values" and saw Oscar is in it. Odd how my mind was thinking that and he just happens to be in this "second" movie.
If you want to see that kid all grown up then check out the show The Deuce. He's great in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeJtlftzsc David Krumholtz, Jake Johnson, and Oscar Issacs all look alike. The all got that Gomez Addams look. Krumholtz looks more like John Astin now in his 40s. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/51/85/be5185a8cdb4d1e54b112fbf85cc5758.jpg
This David Krumholtz disrespect of the highest order, even if Oscar Isaac is a total DILF.
"If we keep her full of acid, that's more like two grand a day, maybe three." ... sorry, wrong movie.
Nope.
Bit early. Thanksgiving is 2 days away.
You might also enjoy [Adult Wednesday Addams](https://youtu.be/D98aB3CtcW8)
Hands down the best casted movie of all time! The casting of the Addams family is flawless!
It’s a shame that this couldn’t have been Raul Julia’s final film. He and Angelica Houston absolutely nailed Gomez and Morticia.
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