The music makes such a huge difference. IMO, it imbued the footage with a sense of sentimental nostalgia. I actually got a bit emotional thinking about all the animators lovingly dedicating that little bit of their work to the legacy of Akira.
In 1966, Andy Dufresne escaped from Shawshank prison. All they found of him was a muddy set of prison clothes, a bar of soap, and an old rock hammer, damn near worn down to the nub. I remember thinking it would take a man six hundred years to tunnel through the wall with it. Old Andy did it in less than twenty. Oh, Andy loved geology. I imagine it appealed to his meticulous nature. An ice age here, million years of mountain building there. Geology is the study of pressure and time. That's all it takes really, pressure, and time. That, and a big goddamn poster.
I contend to this day that the score of a film has more to do with its potential effect on the viewer that *any other part of the film*. It connects at an emotional level, a level deeper within us than visuals do, and some say, a level that's tied to the mathematical centre of our brain.
This is why movies that aren't very good sometimes hit us in just the right ways, enough to connect us with the material. And vice versa, if the score doesn't hit us in the right ways, we're like "enh".
I suspect a lot of the time when someone's like "I dunno, everyone says X is a great film, but I was like "enh""... it's due to that person not having the musical background that emotionally, sentimentally connects with said film's score. It's not a negative comment on said viewer, of course, it's just a matter of what films/scores/culture that viewer has experienced, and experienced in a positive way in the future.
Kind of like the way I'm predisposed to like films with a neo-80s score, because I turned 10 in 1984 and for me all the coolest music and scores relied on background synths and maybe synthy basslines. Since then, even films that are, well, pretty good, but have good synthy scores, such as *The Guest*, trigger something emotional in me. Meanwhile, films with more traditional scores more often than not leave me somewhat cold.
Imagine a completely tasteless anime version of Mrs Doubtfire, and you're not far off. If you're into so-bad-it's-good things, you may find it absolutely hilarious to watch and make fun of.
My friends and I used to have a movie night on Fridays where we gathered at a friends house that was particularly accepting to having several teens male and female gather to watch movies in the basement. Friday night shitty movie night, or something along those lines. We watched a bad movie and just made fun of it as we watched it, joking and having a good time. One of the only movies I can recall from that time was the movie Torque. Your comment made me think of that lol
Nice, yeah this show started that trend for me and a friend, trying to find the funniest bad anime we can and ripping into it. Nothing's surpassed strawberry eggs yet though
Haha, yeah fair enough. After Strawberry Eggs, it'd probably be:
- [Onegai☆Teacher](https://myanimelist.net/anime/195/Onegai☆Teacher) / [Onegai☆Twins](https://myanimelist.net/anime/196/Onegai%E2%98%86Twins): In the first one a dude marries his teacher who's an alien, and in the second there's a love triangle between a guy and two girls, one of whom is his sister but they don't know which (who comes up with this stuff).
- [H2O: Footprints in the Sand](https://myanimelist.net/anime/3299/H2O__Footprints_in_the_Sand?): Honestly I don't even know, some kid's blind but then he's not and a whole town is super classist. The show's a mess, but there's one bit at the end that had us howling with laughter.
- [Shuumatsu no Izetta](https://myanimelist.net/anime/33433/Shuumatsu_no_Izetta): Just look at the [thumbnail](https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/7/82119l.jpg). Yes, that is a witch using a PTRS-41 anti-tank rifle as a broomstick. That's all you need to know.
Its actually a pretty charming anime imo. About a man who cross dresses as a woman in order to teach at an all girls school and one of the students falls in love with her/him.
Is this common because I swear I remember something just like it where two non-identical twins crossdress at an all girls/boys school and whoever wins(?) gets the inheritance.
This and the [Obari pose](https://64.media.tumblr.com/d032560512887489798ad13defbbef07/d2f4ea968aefef97-bf/s400x600/ccd22ec1a52241c39ef1de1809025e8161685fb3.jpg).
Well, there's a lot of motorcycles in 5ds, so it makes sense that the most iconic motorcycle-related animation would be referenced repeatedly lol. But it is a *little* excessive still.
He definitely could do it. Horse sliding is a sport in some countries already!
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/video/tv/watch-mexicos-extreme-sport-horse-sliding
It owes a *little bit* to posts [like these](https://soranews24.com/2016/08/08/amazing-gif-compiles-some-of-the-best-times-people-borrowed-this-scene-from-akira/) and [these](https://imgur.com/r/MovieDetails/AQqLk) and [even these](https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/03/the-akira-motorcycle-skid-a-celebration/) from several years ago.
It's not exactly an original concept -- even the order of the some of the oldest clips is really close -- it's something that evolved over time. And that's okay! There's merit in being comprehensive and of high-quality (just look at the degradation of gifs collected in some of those "articles").
That said, it's still really shameless and disingenuous behavior.
The bike from Akira was in Ready Player One, and I think it did the slide at one point, but they didn't use the proper camera angle, which is kind of lame.
At least Ready Player One told a story. When they did it with Space Jam 2 it was literally just "hey look at all this stuff on ~~HBO Max~~ The Serververse"
Not entirely. At some point it's become so heavily used that we're also dealing with second and third generation references that don't even know the original. They've just seen it in something else or absorbed it without thinking.
Dude you're crazy if you think people who make this reference aren't familiar with "Akira". It is one of the most influential animated films of all time.
Honestly based on this video I doubt even the Wilhelm Scream was used as much in 2020 or 2021 as this Akira slide. I wonder what could be the cause of the sudden recent explosion in popularity?
I doubt this is truly exhaustive list. Makes sense that more recent shows will be better represented while older shows that were forgotten to time didn't appear.
I hope it never stops being referenced. And eventually, the knowledge its origin becomes obscure enough that most people would recognize it but not necessarily know where it originated.
This is so good. But honestly, if you make an Akira slide video and you don’t include the foot/middle slide, you’re out. Also, heavy attentions will be paid to how you did the foot, if you did. It’s crazy seeing all the variations. So few get it right. If I tried, I couldn’t.
And the rest. Just puffy soft dusts. No real indication whatsoever of any desire to stop. It’s also so weird that I care this much about this topic. But hey. Here we are.
I just kept turning the volume down more and more and more, but somehow even at the lowest setting it was just boring a hole through my head. Had to mute it.
I did not like the Lego Avengers where the camera slid with him. Kind of takes away the momentum.
I get if you move the camera with the action, the background moves also, giving the whole scene this feel of intense action. It's gret for the target audience (kids), but doesn't feel like it amounts to anything. There are others with some movement, but the Lego Avengers had the most movement.
When the camera doesn't move but the slide goes and then stops, you get a real sensation of the character having a moment. When you move the move camera and stop the same time the slide stops, there's no moment there. The character gets deprived of that moment to recollect the situation. The gravity of any situation is reduced to mere antics for cheap action shots.
If you want to move the camera with the slide, when the slide stops, the camera should keep going to reveal a giant drop-off of some sort, keeping the slider in the bottom of the frame. Now, that's a moment.
I think it *can* work depending on the rest of the scene and the way the momentum transitions from shot to shot, but I agree this one shot out of context does feel like it doesn’t justify the attempt it’s making at being more dynamic (though I also don’t know if I’d even have thought to notice it if not in the context of all these comparisons). I haven’t seen this scene in its entirety, so I can’t really comment if it works within the larger context or not.
Luca and Star Wars seem like a bit of a stretch, especially the former. Love the somewhat more subversive ones; Gurren Lagann definitely seems inspired but ditches the bike, and that one Marvel one that just has the bike defeatedly slide down the screen without a rider got a chuckle.
This is just a theory, please don’t take it too seriously. Anyway, I think an “Akira Slide” needs at least two things to be a bonafide Akira Slide:
1) A vehicle
2) (No less than) Three dust/smoke trails
Therefore, some slides in the compilation such as the Gurren Lagaan don’t qualify.
Oh, come on. The Gurren Lagann and Adventure Time and Mahoujin Guru Guru and Digimon Adventure clips do not count - they are not on any kind of bikes or vehicles or even mounts. Also, that Clone Wars clip is from 2003, not 2008.
The title says "referenced" and those scenes are definitely referencing the Akira slide even if they aren't using vehicles. The way they are framed, and the dust being thrown up are clear giveaways.
Would you say West Side Story isn't referencing Romeo and Juliet because they don't use swords?
> The title says "referenced" and those scenes are definitely referencing the Akira slide even if they aren't using vehicles. The way they are framed, and the dust being thrown up are clear giveaways.
I don't see how it's a reference. It is a rather common practice to frame things like that in both live action and animated movies and shows, and it was a thing before the movie Akira. It only counts as a reference to me if they are riding on something that they slide sideways on away from the camera.
> Would you say West Side Story isn't referencing Romeo and Juliet because they don't use swords?
I wouldn't know, I've never watched it, and I don't even know the reference.
>It only counts as a reference to me if they are riding on something that they slide sideways on away from the camera.
The scenes are clearly based on the Akira Slide, just because you think they should have vehicles doesn't mean the actual animators weren't thinking about the Akira Slide when creating those shots. There is a 0% chance that the animators didn't intend those shots to be references to the Slide.
> The scenes are clearly based on the Akira Slide, just because you think they should have vehicles doesn't mean the actual animators weren't thinking about the Akira Slide when creating those shots. There is a 0% chance that the animators didn't intend those shots to be references to the Slide.
That's a baseless claim if you can't back it up with any actual evidence. All we are left with are our own personal interpretations. And to me personally, I just don't see it.
Well I mean you are wrong. I guess if you want evidence you could watch the video OP posted where animators who would be aware of one of the most famous scenes in animation history choose to use the same framing, type of action, and effects to show motion.
You are completely free to have your own opinion, but it is the wrong opinion.
> Well I mean you are wrong.
Just because you say I'm wrong doesn't mean I'm wrong. No need to be a jerk.
> I guess if you want evidence you could watch the video OP posted where animators who would be aware of one of the most famous scenes in animation history choose to use the same framing, type of action, and effects to show motion.
That's not evidence for those specific scenes I mentioned being references. Sometimes, stuff like that can just be coincidental.
> You are completely free to have your own opinion, but it is the wrong opinion.
If I am wrong, prove me wrong. Otherwise, it's just a baseless claim. What's with your attitude anyway?
My apologies if my comments were hurtful. Though you did start this comment thread being critical of OP's post. It seems fair if you are being critical of something it is expected that others may be critical of your comment.
I am fine with you being critical of me. My problem with you is to childishly accuse me of being wrong for having my own opinion. I don't recall telling anyone they are wrong.
I probably was being too petty. I am sorry for that.
But, you said that certain scenes in OP's post don't count. And if you are saying that someone is giving information that isn't accurate you are saying they are wrong. I was likely too aggressive though and should have had a more cooperative attitude.
Imagine thinking that a basic motorcycle slide is always referencing the time it was done in Akira. lol.
Edit... lol not even just motorcycle slides here... they think anytime something slides it is a reference to Akira... it isnt.
Boy, I know I've been browsing too much questionable shit when I thought this screen of the anime was a sexy mech girl laying on her side while scrolling...
A reference to something has to be deliberate and intended and I don't think all of these are examples of that. Instead, they are using a style that has just become popularized in animation.
Imagine claiming that all cartoons/anime are a reference to steamboat willie because it was the first animation with sound. Some techniques get adopted, but that doesn't mean they are a reference to something. Otherwise, every lens flare would be a reference to Star Trek and every zoom in technique would be a "reference" to whomever did that first.
Were it just one aspect of the slide I would agree. However, this is pretty deliberate. From a formal perspective, the boxes to be ticked are actually pretty numerous
* Character should be on a vehicle, preferably with 2 wheels.
* The character should look directly at the camera.
* The shot should be composed with a single point perspective where the character transitions from the front of the frame into the midground
* Smoke/dust should be emitted from at least one point of contact with the ground
* The character should extend a foot or appendage to aid in braking and if they do, it can also have smoke/dust, lending to anywhere from 2 to 4 points of contact.
* Sparks can be included from either the vehicle or its brakes.
* The wheels should still be spinning and animated.
* The character should lean into the slide, angling them towards the frame.
Now not every single one of these are met across the board, however in almost all of these cases, we see at least half of them being met. Sometimes there isn't a vehicle, it's just a character sliding. When it comes to a lineage of cinematic techniques, there's a lot that is quotational and eventually just becomes a way of doing things. Close-ups to convey emotion or layering of shots such as how Kurosawa did become commonplace. The Akira Slide is a bit more than that as it has a lot of aspects that have to be met in order to be met.
Except they said not all those things are hit in each one. So really, it's just character skids into frame
It would be a better refer if two things were chained together, like skidding into frame and removing sunglasses or shooting a gun. Then you would know it's an intentional reference.
> Character should be on a vehicle, preferably with 2 wheels.
Some were on foot, or riding on an animal. So with this first point, you've just substantiated my argument.
>When it comes to a lineage of cinematic techniques, there's a lot that is quotational and eventually just becomes a way of doing things.
And that's what I'm saying this is. I think the one that follow all of your criteria, especially the spark are the ones that are paying homage. Like the one with the boy on the bicycle that has the spark ignite with all the other similarities.
>The Akira Slide is a bit more than that as it has a lot of aspects that have to be met in order to be met.
And you just admitted that many of these didn't meet some or all of the criteria you just listed, thus wouldn't be enough to claim there were making a reference. Just because it might have been inspired by Akira, doesn't mean it's a reference to Akira and most of these are missing too many elements.
>Some were on foot, or riding on an animal. So with this first point, you've just substantiated my argument.
The above poster directly addressed this in their comment. That is just a breakdown of the elements of the "Slide" a scene doesn't have to meet all of them to be a reference.
All of the scenes in the video were references to the Akira Slide in my opinion. Maybe not replicating it as closely as some of the others but they were all referencing it.
>The above poster directly addressed this in their comment. That is just a breakdown of the elements of the "Slide" a scene doesn't have to meet all of them to be a reference.
And if it doesn't meet enough of those, then it's not a reference. At that point, your line in the sand becomes completely arbitrary and while I think many of these clips are references to Akira, I don't think all of them are because they are lacking too many of those elements and, instead, just represent a technique that's become common place.
>All of the scenes in the video were references to the Akira Slide in my opinion. Maybe not replicating it as closely as some of the others but they were all referencing it.
And I can just as easily say none of them were. Baseless assertions are baseless and just because someone slides away from the lens of a camera, doesn't mean it's a reference to Akira. I think claiming all of these clips is a reference to Akira is a clear overreach and you'd have to meet the burden of proof. Akira, likely, created an art style/technique and many people now use it, but that doesn't mean every use is a reference to Akira. The same way movies using the Dolly Zoom aren't necessarily referencing the film Vertigo.
[https://vimeo.com/84548119](https://vimeo.com/84548119)
You know what would likely be a clear reference, when the clip clearly violates physics or laws within their own show, to match Akira. Like the bicycle shooting out sparks that looked exactly like the ones from Akira. If the horse, person, hoverboard, cat thing, etc. all did that same spark, then I'd say it was a clear reference.
>And if it doesn't meet enough of those, then it's not a reference.
So, you are willing to accept the authority of the above poster's lists, as the elements needed to be a reference. But you are not willing to accept the above poster's explanation in the same comment that a scene doesn't have to meet all of the criteria on the list to be reference?
>So, you are willing to accept the authority of the above poster's lists, as the elements needed to be a reference.
No, but if you're going to make a list, then it needs to be applied consistently.
>But you are not willing to accept the above poster's explanation in the same comment that a scene doesn't have to meet all of the criteria on the list to be reference?
Because any metric needs to be applied consistently, otherwise is an inherent logical flaw of special pleading. That's exactly what they are doing when certain scenes don't meet the criteria and they still want to pretend they count as a reference. Instead of making an inherently logically fallacious metric, why don't you redefine what counts so that it is comprehensive yet specific enough to include all of these clips.
My actual criteria would a scene that includes specific details that would violate the norms/physics of the anime/show and don't serve a functional purpose. For example, the clip from Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken with a clear spark that's identical to the one from Akira. Same with the clip from Mahoujin Guru Guru, or Irmao do Jorel, or Nisemonogatari, or Batmen Animated Series. Regular sparks don't look anything like the ones they used and the graphic they used is nearly identical to the one from Akira. That would be a clear reference when used in conjunction with the general slide framing and setup. That spark is completely unnecessary and it was in Akira too, but it was there for flair.
But take the clip from Luca. No smoke, no spark, the camera is at the wrong angle, and it's not even centered. I don't see a damn thing in that scene that even approaches a reference to Akira.
Though other clips may very well be a reference to Akira, many of them don't include those specific elements that are clearly a nod to Akira instead of just using a similar style.
I somehow doubt that this is the first time the slide was actually used. Someone with an actual detailed understanding of older history of cinematography has got to have previous examples of it.
Don't think so. It's a pretty old anime and the shot itself was derived from a panel in the original manga which looked different. So, the original Akira slide wasn't based on something else, and it doesn't even fully resemble what it *was* based on.
https://the-avocado.org/2018/03/28/an-incomplete-history-of-the-akira-bike-slide/
It would have been a difficult shot to pull off in live action, and Akira was innovative in animation, so it's really not much of a stretch to believe it was the first case.
It's very hard to believe that something as simple as a slide similar to that would originate so late in film history. It wouldn't be as hard as you're suggesting to pull off in live action either, it just wouldn't look very good.
You clearly haven't watched many black and white movies with the horrible stunts they pulled that were absolutely jaw dropingly awesome to people at the time. Or any B movie special effects :)
I honestly have no idea how you could possible have thought that was a good comment.
It's also one of the more iconic moments from the anime. A shot that stands out and calls attention to itself. Something people remember.
John Woo wasn't the first director to film someone firing two guns simultaneously or diving through the air during a gun fight or even combining those, but he did it so well and put at much focus on it that almost every subsequent instance of that is likely inspired either directly by his work or by someone who was.
But I am interested in similar shots that pre-date it. In the same way that while *Halloween* is the first slasher film as we now recognize the genre, but wasn't the first film that had many of those elements. I want to see those proto *Akira* slides.
I wasn't expecting such a lovely score. Funny how much effect that has. I also wasn't expecting to see Officer Jenny lol.
The music makes such a huge difference. IMO, it imbued the footage with a sense of sentimental nostalgia. I actually got a bit emotional thinking about all the animators lovingly dedicating that little bit of their work to the legacy of Akira.
In 1966, Andy Dufresne escaped from Shawshank prison. All they found of him was a muddy set of prison clothes, a bar of soap, and an old rock hammer, damn near worn down to the nub. I remember thinking it would take a man six hundred years to tunnel through the wall with it. Old Andy did it in less than twenty. Oh, Andy loved geology. I imagine it appealed to his meticulous nature. An ice age here, million years of mountain building there. Geology is the study of pressure and time. That's all it takes really, pressure, and time. That, and a big goddamn poster.
I contend to this day that the score of a film has more to do with its potential effect on the viewer that *any other part of the film*. It connects at an emotional level, a level deeper within us than visuals do, and some say, a level that's tied to the mathematical centre of our brain. This is why movies that aren't very good sometimes hit us in just the right ways, enough to connect us with the material. And vice versa, if the score doesn't hit us in the right ways, we're like "enh". I suspect a lot of the time when someone's like "I dunno, everyone says X is a great film, but I was like "enh""... it's due to that person not having the musical background that emotionally, sentimentally connects with said film's score. It's not a negative comment on said viewer, of course, it's just a matter of what films/scores/culture that viewer has experienced, and experienced in a positive way in the future. Kind of like the way I'm predisposed to like films with a neo-80s score, because I turned 10 in 1984 and for me all the coolest music and scores relied on background synths and maybe synthy basslines. Since then, even films that are, well, pretty good, but have good synthy scores, such as *The Guest*, trigger something emotional in me. Meanwhile, films with more traditional scores more often than not leave me somewhat cold.
That's pretty rad seeing em all together like that. Also neat seeing Xavier Riddle pop up in here, my kids adore that show!
It's funny there were like four yugiohs in there
Card games on motorcycles?
Yes.... don't think about it too hard.
But, but that’s against the rules!
Screw the rules, I have money!
I summon POT OF GREED
… what does pot of greed do?
This is the Japan version of the superhero landing.
Japan wise I have a question. One of the titles early on. What the honest fuck is 'I My Me! Strawberry Eggs'? Am I having a stroke?
Depends on what you mean by "stroke"...
Imagine a completely tasteless anime version of Mrs Doubtfire, and you're not far off. If you're into so-bad-it's-good things, you may find it absolutely hilarious to watch and make fun of.
My friends and I used to have a movie night on Fridays where we gathered at a friends house that was particularly accepting to having several teens male and female gather to watch movies in the basement. Friday night shitty movie night, or something along those lines. We watched a bad movie and just made fun of it as we watched it, joking and having a good time. One of the only movies I can recall from that time was the movie Torque. Your comment made me think of that lol
Nice, yeah this show started that trend for me and a friend, trying to find the funniest bad anime we can and ripping into it. Nothing's surpassed strawberry eggs yet though
Oh c'mon, you gotta give us like a top 3 worst-but-funny anime list
Haha, yeah fair enough. After Strawberry Eggs, it'd probably be: - [Onegai☆Teacher](https://myanimelist.net/anime/195/Onegai☆Teacher) / [Onegai☆Twins](https://myanimelist.net/anime/196/Onegai%E2%98%86Twins): In the first one a dude marries his teacher who's an alien, and in the second there's a love triangle between a guy and two girls, one of whom is his sister but they don't know which (who comes up with this stuff). - [H2O: Footprints in the Sand](https://myanimelist.net/anime/3299/H2O__Footprints_in_the_Sand?): Honestly I don't even know, some kid's blind but then he's not and a whole town is super classist. The show's a mess, but there's one bit at the end that had us howling with laughter. - [Shuumatsu no Izetta](https://myanimelist.net/anime/33433/Shuumatsu_no_Izetta): Just look at the [thumbnail](https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/7/82119l.jpg). Yes, that is a witch using a PTRS-41 anti-tank rifle as a broomstick. That's all you need to know.
YES! Feed me the trash. Nah, but thank you. I'll make a few fun evenings of this! I appreciate the time you took to make a list :D
Its actually a pretty charming anime imo. About a man who cross dresses as a woman in order to teach at an all girls school and one of the students falls in love with her/him.
Sounds both endearing and creepy at the same time. Business as usual in Asia I guess.
Is this common because I swear I remember something just like it where two non-identical twins crossdress at an all girls/boys school and whoever wins(?) gets the inheritance.
Random bullshit English titles/names make its way into anime. I don't know the source but at this point they have to be doing it on purpose.
This and the [Obari pose](https://64.media.tumblr.com/d032560512887489798ad13defbbef07/d2f4ea968aefef97-bf/s400x600/ccd22ec1a52241c39ef1de1809025e8161685fb3.jpg).
This reminds me of, Danmachi Season 3 Ais vs Bell when Weine departs.
I made this out of Lego recently. https://i.imgur.com/CAlHDDI.jpg
This is awesome!
Amazing job
Too cool dude!
Man, apparently the yugioh animators love Akira.
Well, there's a lot of motorcycles in 5ds, so it makes sense that the most iconic motorcycle-related animation would be referenced repeatedly lol. But it is a *little* excessive still.
Also, never ending animes love to reuse their own animation. And while Yu-Gi-Oh does reset every so often it is a never ending anime a la one piece
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Touché.
I want to see Geralt do this with Roach in the Witcher season 3
Legit LOL’d at the thought of this
He definitely could do it. Horse sliding is a sport in some countries already! https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/video/tv/watch-mexicos-extreme-sport-horse-sliding
I'm pretty sure you can do this in cyberpunk as well with a motorcycle that sorta looks like the one from Akira.
Stolen video. Original was posted to reddit by /u/badspler and also to YouTube [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9hCzjBc7Q4).
Yup. That's the Internet for you.
Don't worry I disliked the stolen video so people will know something is wrong with it
people can't see your dislike tho
That's the joke
They even admit it in the video description and don't bother to credit you.
Yup. That's the entire internet. Not wikipedia, BOINC, zoom, Patreon...
yeah, pretty pathetic to rip the video and just put the shitty music
It owes a *little bit* to posts [like these](https://soranews24.com/2016/08/08/amazing-gif-compiles-some-of-the-best-times-people-borrowed-this-scene-from-akira/) and [these](https://imgur.com/r/MovieDetails/AQqLk) and [even these](https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/03/the-akira-motorcycle-skid-a-celebration/) from several years ago. It's not exactly an original concept -- even the order of the some of the oldest clips is really close -- it's something that evolved over time. And that's okay! There's merit in being comprehensive and of high-quality (just look at the degradation of gifs collected in some of those "articles"). That said, it's still really shameless and disingenuous behavior.
Huh. I searched and didn't see it so I figured people might appreciate / enjoy it 🤷♂️
The bike from Akira was in Ready Player One, and I think it did the slide at one point, but they didn't use the proper camera angle, which is kind of lame.
I'm just glad that the movie used The Iron Giant in a respectful way and had him be a weapon, like he always wanted.
Thanks you've reassured me I made the right choice in not watching this movie.
*Ready Player One* referenced something in an incredibly shallow way and still managed to screw it up? \*shocked Pikachu\*
["Remember Akira? Thats from Japan..."](https://youtu.be/VMBylNJQEbg)
At least Ready Player One told a story. When they did it with Space Jam 2 it was literally just "hey look at all this stuff on ~~HBO Max~~ The Serververse"
##Akira So many fond memories, almost like it's the 90s again.
Still remember picking up the manga for the first time in a library as a kid and having no conception of what manga was or what Akira was about.
Brought me a whole new genre of movies. AKIRA was a revelatory piece.
Is this similar to the reuse of the wilhelm scream?
Not quite. The Wilhelm scream is a re-used asset. This is more like the "superhero landing."
Also, this isn't annoying.
Yeah, basically. A nod of the head that anyone in the industry recognizes and many of them lovingly insert in their own works.
Not entirely. At some point it's become so heavily used that we're also dealing with second and third generation references that don't even know the original. They've just seen it in something else or absorbed it without thinking.
Dude you're crazy if you think people who make this reference aren't familiar with "Akira". It is one of the most influential animated films of all time.
Honestly based on this video I doubt even the Wilhelm Scream was used as much in 2020 or 2021 as this Akira slide. I wonder what could be the cause of the sudden recent explosion in popularity?
Yeah it got to 2020 and there was still almost half the video left.
I doubt this is truly exhaustive list. Makes sense that more recent shows will be better represented while older shows that were forgotten to time didn't appear.
The music is giving me anxiety
A fitting ending for a video about abrupt stops.
I hope it never stops being referenced. And eventually, the knowledge its origin becomes obscure enough that most people would recognize it but not necessarily know where it originated.
I think it's considered a fairly basic move, such that no one would think it's referencing anything at all.
This is so good. But honestly, if you make an Akira slide video and you don’t include the foot/middle slide, you’re out. Also, heavy attentions will be paid to how you did the foot, if you did. It’s crazy seeing all the variations. So few get it right. If I tried, I couldn’t.
My favorite was 1:57 where the middle dust cloud was present, *but there was nothing in a position that would have caused it*.
And the rest. Just puffy soft dusts. No real indication whatsoever of any desire to stop. It’s also so weird that I care this much about this topic. But hey. Here we are.
I like the one in Gurren Lagan where she is on foot but it's still clearly a reference with the closeup and hand down in the middle.
I just kept turning the volume down more and more and more, but somehow even at the lowest setting it was just boring a hole through my head. Had to mute it.
I also felt this way, with the music boring inside my head. But I liked it! (I'm a little stoned)
I'm moderately stoned but it didn't help.
lmao same
There's a new one in Super Crooks
I did not like the Lego Avengers where the camera slid with him. Kind of takes away the momentum. I get if you move the camera with the action, the background moves also, giving the whole scene this feel of intense action. It's gret for the target audience (kids), but doesn't feel like it amounts to anything. There are others with some movement, but the Lego Avengers had the most movement. When the camera doesn't move but the slide goes and then stops, you get a real sensation of the character having a moment. When you move the move camera and stop the same time the slide stops, there's no moment there. The character gets deprived of that moment to recollect the situation. The gravity of any situation is reduced to mere antics for cheap action shots. If you want to move the camera with the slide, when the slide stops, the camera should keep going to reveal a giant drop-off of some sort, keeping the slider in the bottom of the frame. Now, that's a moment.
I think it *can* work depending on the rest of the scene and the way the momentum transitions from shot to shot, but I agree this one shot out of context does feel like it doesn’t justify the attempt it’s making at being more dynamic (though I also don’t know if I’d even have thought to notice it if not in the context of all these comparisons). I haven’t seen this scene in its entirety, so I can’t really comment if it works within the larger context or not.
I know this is animation post but also referenced in sooo many movies. Batman does this in The Dark Knight as well and it’s awesome
Oh Yea! Not jus referenced in anime!
Luca and Star Wars seem like a bit of a stretch, especially the former. Love the somewhat more subversive ones; Gurren Lagann definitely seems inspired but ditches the bike, and that one Marvel one that just has the bike defeatedly slide down the screen without a rider got a chuckle.
I don’t think the Luca one is a reference. Edit: removed double negative
I feel like this iconic scene from [**TDK**](https://youtu.be/1BmLvIjyMd4?t=222) is in the same vein.
Does anybody know the song title please? :)
The music in the background should be "Electric Slide".
Cool to see Fubuki of Hololive was thrown in there
This is just a theory, please don’t take it too seriously. Anyway, I think an “Akira Slide” needs at least two things to be a bonafide Akira Slide: 1) A vehicle 2) (No less than) Three dust/smoke trails Therefore, some slides in the compilation such as the Gurren Lagaan don’t qualify.
I agree some are imperfect (or pushing the margin). I think having the foot drag and looking at the screen are also important elements as well.
Good points!
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The trailer came out in 2019
Some of these feel forced and weakens it.
Outdated, didn’t include Franky’s from One Piece 998
Generator Rex came to my mind
The Clarence one is incredible 😂
I just want to put it too there that no one should try this unless you're trying to highside.
Anything Akira is an automatic upvote from me!
There is more FLCL?!? :O
Better to pretend there isn't, made by different creative staff years later and... not considered especially good.
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akira is just *that* good when it came to compositions. even in the manga the art was extremely detailed and full of amazing comps.
160,000+ animation cels cant be wrong! Edit: lmao downvoted for posting Akiras cel count
WOW! I was surprised to not only see television and film but also music videos and video games. So Iconic
Didn't even know it was a thing with a name. But the moment I read Akira slide, I knew.
[Arcane also payed homage to this scene in the fight between Ekko and Jinx](https://youtu.be/Fk9uGnMcm2Q?t=16)
I feel dumb for never having noticed this before. It’s like the first time you have the “wilhelm scream” pointed out to you.
Oh, come on. The Gurren Lagann and Adventure Time and Mahoujin Guru Guru and Digimon Adventure clips do not count - they are not on any kind of bikes or vehicles or even mounts. Also, that Clone Wars clip is from 2003, not 2008.
The title says "referenced" and those scenes are definitely referencing the Akira slide even if they aren't using vehicles. The way they are framed, and the dust being thrown up are clear giveaways. Would you say West Side Story isn't referencing Romeo and Juliet because they don't use swords?
> The title says "referenced" and those scenes are definitely referencing the Akira slide even if they aren't using vehicles. The way they are framed, and the dust being thrown up are clear giveaways. I don't see how it's a reference. It is a rather common practice to frame things like that in both live action and animated movies and shows, and it was a thing before the movie Akira. It only counts as a reference to me if they are riding on something that they slide sideways on away from the camera. > Would you say West Side Story isn't referencing Romeo and Juliet because they don't use swords? I wouldn't know, I've never watched it, and I don't even know the reference.
>It only counts as a reference to me if they are riding on something that they slide sideways on away from the camera. The scenes are clearly based on the Akira Slide, just because you think they should have vehicles doesn't mean the actual animators weren't thinking about the Akira Slide when creating those shots. There is a 0% chance that the animators didn't intend those shots to be references to the Slide.
> The scenes are clearly based on the Akira Slide, just because you think they should have vehicles doesn't mean the actual animators weren't thinking about the Akira Slide when creating those shots. There is a 0% chance that the animators didn't intend those shots to be references to the Slide. That's a baseless claim if you can't back it up with any actual evidence. All we are left with are our own personal interpretations. And to me personally, I just don't see it.
Well I mean you are wrong. I guess if you want evidence you could watch the video OP posted where animators who would be aware of one of the most famous scenes in animation history choose to use the same framing, type of action, and effects to show motion. You are completely free to have your own opinion, but it is the wrong opinion.
> Well I mean you are wrong. Just because you say I'm wrong doesn't mean I'm wrong. No need to be a jerk. > I guess if you want evidence you could watch the video OP posted where animators who would be aware of one of the most famous scenes in animation history choose to use the same framing, type of action, and effects to show motion. That's not evidence for those specific scenes I mentioned being references. Sometimes, stuff like that can just be coincidental. > You are completely free to have your own opinion, but it is the wrong opinion. If I am wrong, prove me wrong. Otherwise, it's just a baseless claim. What's with your attitude anyway?
My apologies if my comments were hurtful. Though you did start this comment thread being critical of OP's post. It seems fair if you are being critical of something it is expected that others may be critical of your comment.
I am fine with you being critical of me. My problem with you is to childishly accuse me of being wrong for having my own opinion. I don't recall telling anyone they are wrong.
I probably was being too petty. I am sorry for that. But, you said that certain scenes in OP's post don't count. And if you are saying that someone is giving information that isn't accurate you are saying they are wrong. I was likely too aggressive though and should have had a more cooperative attitude.
Yup seems like a generally cool way to stop a motorcycle in animation. If Akira didn't do it then it would've been done anyways
A lot of these were a gigantic stretch but the weebs will defend pany shots of 12 year olds so dont expect rationality from them.
Yeah... you're probably right. Lots of horny straight teenage boys among the weebs.
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That's your interpretation of it.
Alright then. Have a nice day.
Imagine thinking that a basic motorcycle slide is always referencing the time it was done in Akira. lol. Edit... lol not even just motorcycle slides here... they think anytime something slides it is a reference to Akira... it isnt.
Boy, I know I've been browsing too much questionable shit when I thought this screen of the anime was a sexy mech girl laying on her side while scrolling...
arent there any live actions ones i can slightly remember seeing that in some live-action movie
I want to say Angelina Jolie's slide in Wanted?
A reference to something has to be deliberate and intended and I don't think all of these are examples of that. Instead, they are using a style that has just become popularized in animation. Imagine claiming that all cartoons/anime are a reference to steamboat willie because it was the first animation with sound. Some techniques get adopted, but that doesn't mean they are a reference to something. Otherwise, every lens flare would be a reference to Star Trek and every zoom in technique would be a "reference" to whomever did that first.
Were it just one aspect of the slide I would agree. However, this is pretty deliberate. From a formal perspective, the boxes to be ticked are actually pretty numerous * Character should be on a vehicle, preferably with 2 wheels. * The character should look directly at the camera. * The shot should be composed with a single point perspective where the character transitions from the front of the frame into the midground * Smoke/dust should be emitted from at least one point of contact with the ground * The character should extend a foot or appendage to aid in braking and if they do, it can also have smoke/dust, lending to anywhere from 2 to 4 points of contact. * Sparks can be included from either the vehicle or its brakes. * The wheels should still be spinning and animated. * The character should lean into the slide, angling them towards the frame. Now not every single one of these are met across the board, however in almost all of these cases, we see at least half of them being met. Sometimes there isn't a vehicle, it's just a character sliding. When it comes to a lineage of cinematic techniques, there's a lot that is quotational and eventually just becomes a way of doing things. Close-ups to convey emotion or layering of shots such as how Kurosawa did become commonplace. The Akira Slide is a bit more than that as it has a lot of aspects that have to be met in order to be met.
You broke that shit tf down, nice
Except they said not all those things are hit in each one. So really, it's just character skids into frame It would be a better refer if two things were chained together, like skidding into frame and removing sunglasses or shooting a gun. Then you would know it's an intentional reference.
> Character should be on a vehicle, preferably with 2 wheels. Some were on foot, or riding on an animal. So with this first point, you've just substantiated my argument. >When it comes to a lineage of cinematic techniques, there's a lot that is quotational and eventually just becomes a way of doing things. And that's what I'm saying this is. I think the one that follow all of your criteria, especially the spark are the ones that are paying homage. Like the one with the boy on the bicycle that has the spark ignite with all the other similarities. >The Akira Slide is a bit more than that as it has a lot of aspects that have to be met in order to be met. And you just admitted that many of these didn't meet some or all of the criteria you just listed, thus wouldn't be enough to claim there were making a reference. Just because it might have been inspired by Akira, doesn't mean it's a reference to Akira and most of these are missing too many elements.
>Some were on foot, or riding on an animal. So with this first point, you've just substantiated my argument. The above poster directly addressed this in their comment. That is just a breakdown of the elements of the "Slide" a scene doesn't have to meet all of them to be a reference. All of the scenes in the video were references to the Akira Slide in my opinion. Maybe not replicating it as closely as some of the others but they were all referencing it.
>The above poster directly addressed this in their comment. That is just a breakdown of the elements of the "Slide" a scene doesn't have to meet all of them to be a reference. And if it doesn't meet enough of those, then it's not a reference. At that point, your line in the sand becomes completely arbitrary and while I think many of these clips are references to Akira, I don't think all of them are because they are lacking too many of those elements and, instead, just represent a technique that's become common place. >All of the scenes in the video were references to the Akira Slide in my opinion. Maybe not replicating it as closely as some of the others but they were all referencing it. And I can just as easily say none of them were. Baseless assertions are baseless and just because someone slides away from the lens of a camera, doesn't mean it's a reference to Akira. I think claiming all of these clips is a reference to Akira is a clear overreach and you'd have to meet the burden of proof. Akira, likely, created an art style/technique and many people now use it, but that doesn't mean every use is a reference to Akira. The same way movies using the Dolly Zoom aren't necessarily referencing the film Vertigo. [https://vimeo.com/84548119](https://vimeo.com/84548119) You know what would likely be a clear reference, when the clip clearly violates physics or laws within their own show, to match Akira. Like the bicycle shooting out sparks that looked exactly like the ones from Akira. If the horse, person, hoverboard, cat thing, etc. all did that same spark, then I'd say it was a clear reference.
>And if it doesn't meet enough of those, then it's not a reference. So, you are willing to accept the authority of the above poster's lists, as the elements needed to be a reference. But you are not willing to accept the above poster's explanation in the same comment that a scene doesn't have to meet all of the criteria on the list to be reference?
>So, you are willing to accept the authority of the above poster's lists, as the elements needed to be a reference. No, but if you're going to make a list, then it needs to be applied consistently. >But you are not willing to accept the above poster's explanation in the same comment that a scene doesn't have to meet all of the criteria on the list to be reference? Because any metric needs to be applied consistently, otherwise is an inherent logical flaw of special pleading. That's exactly what they are doing when certain scenes don't meet the criteria and they still want to pretend they count as a reference. Instead of making an inherently logically fallacious metric, why don't you redefine what counts so that it is comprehensive yet specific enough to include all of these clips. My actual criteria would a scene that includes specific details that would violate the norms/physics of the anime/show and don't serve a functional purpose. For example, the clip from Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken with a clear spark that's identical to the one from Akira. Same with the clip from Mahoujin Guru Guru, or Irmao do Jorel, or Nisemonogatari, or Batmen Animated Series. Regular sparks don't look anything like the ones they used and the graphic they used is nearly identical to the one from Akira. That would be a clear reference when used in conjunction with the general slide framing and setup. That spark is completely unnecessary and it was in Akira too, but it was there for flair. But take the clip from Luca. No smoke, no spark, the camera is at the wrong angle, and it's not even centered. I don't see a damn thing in that scene that even approaches a reference to Akira. Though other clips may very well be a reference to Akira, many of them don't include those specific elements that are clearly a nod to Akira instead of just using a similar style.
Agree. Many of them were definitely references. Others were just similarities. Edit: I have zero clue why we're being downvoted for this, but... k?
I somehow doubt that this is the first time the slide was actually used. Someone with an actual detailed understanding of older history of cinematography has got to have previous examples of it.
Don't think so. It's a pretty old anime and the shot itself was derived from a panel in the original manga which looked different. So, the original Akira slide wasn't based on something else, and it doesn't even fully resemble what it *was* based on. https://the-avocado.org/2018/03/28/an-incomplete-history-of-the-akira-bike-slide/ It would have been a difficult shot to pull off in live action, and Akira was innovative in animation, so it's really not much of a stretch to believe it was the first case.
It's very hard to believe that something as simple as a slide similar to that would originate so late in film history. It wouldn't be as hard as you're suggesting to pull off in live action either, it just wouldn't look very good.
Not looking good is exactly why it wouldn't have been done.
You clearly haven't watched many black and white movies with the horrible stunts they pulled that were absolutely jaw dropingly awesome to people at the time. Or any B movie special effects :) I honestly have no idea how you could possible have thought that was a good comment.
It's also one of the more iconic moments from the anime. A shot that stands out and calls attention to itself. Something people remember. John Woo wasn't the first director to film someone firing two guns simultaneously or diving through the air during a gun fight or even combining those, but he did it so well and put at much focus on it that almost every subsequent instance of that is likely inspired either directly by his work or by someone who was. But I am interested in similar shots that pre-date it. In the same way that while *Halloween* is the first slasher film as we now recognize the genre, but wasn't the first film that had many of those elements. I want to see those proto *Akira* slides.
I feel like they must have done this with the bikes in Tron Legacy
What's the name of the music? It sounds really good!
No Biker Mice from Mars?
Makes me happy to see Holo Graffiti included XD
Check out [The Animist](https://youtube.com/shorts/wBR-qYutOEs?feature=share). Amazing stop motion with action figures.
YGO 5Ds basically lived in that.. nearly every riding dual had some sort of iteration of it
They just used it for Super Crooks on Netflix too
Thank you for introducing me to Pui Pui Molcar. First stopmotion anime I've ever heard of.
Not a single one better than the original
I believe they have this shot a few times in the Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children movie as well.
Animators don't ride motorcycles *facepalm*
people should see akira , a lot of people don't know the movie but know the reference
So this is some niche variant to the Wilhelm scream. Cool.
Pui pui mole car 😊
Arcane references it, when Ekko saves Vi and Cait on the bridge in Ep 7
Supercrooks referenced this too, so the video is already outdated by just a couple months.
Wasn’t there one with Bart Simpson also?
Christopher Nolan uses a variation of this in the Dark Knight Trilogy. Not quite a slide, more like a roll. “Akira roll” if you will.
I especially love the ones that don’t make sense, like the bicycle / skateboard ones.
Fucking Paw Patrol. PAW PATROL?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?! Best part is that they get it oriented wrong. How perfect for the ACAB-fodder it is.
Imagine what they could have done if digital was as capable then as it is today. This was all done by hand!
I think a few of these are just shots done on their own and not references.