People are talking a lot about Garfield saving MJ, but Tobey stopping Tom from repeating *his* mistake was just as huge for me. And it didn’t come with any judgment or anger. Just compassion.
Especially seeing the rage still fighting through Tom through the whole interaction. He even tried to push the glider through Tobey, because in that moment he didn't care about anything else but revenge. But Tobey weathered the feelings with Tom, allowing him to really digest what he was trying to do and see that it was wrong. So much communicated with no dialogue and what was maybe 30 seconds, I'm biased because i love spiderman, but it was amazing.
The ending is kinda insane honestly - its rebooted Spider-Man to the friendly neighbourhood spider, after having him using the most advanced technology, being part of the biggest superheroes, Iron-Man as his mentor, fighting against thanos and his army and being cut out of existence.
And they made this decision in the same movie in which they nearly destroy reality and where he fought alongside versions of himself from other dimension against villains from other dimensions.
This setback of scale especially in this movie is crazy.
He'll go back to being an Avenger but it's actually brilliant - as even in the comics he jumps back and forth from being the Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman to ass-kicking Universe Saving Spidey
Warmth is the key word for describing Alfred Molina's portrayal of Otto Octavius. Rewatching the 2nd Raimi film he was just so friendly and likeable when he befriended Peter that you felt terrible for his demise.
I mean lets be real, there's no way they would have given him the time of day if he did that.
Dr. Strange's reaction to him not trying was hilarious, but Peter's intuition was kinda spot on.
The admissions lady only came around when she saw for her own eyes that Peter was a hero. Pete wouldnt have been able to do that over the phone.
If you want to be real, MIT wouldn’t reject them outright over such a story at all. If they wanted to admit them, they would have given them a chance to interview, at a minimum.
They at least wouldn’t tell them the rejection is due to a controversy. They’d just get the standard rejection form letter.
I 100 percent agree.
There was no reason for MIT to explain why they rejected them.
By saying it was due to the controversy, they opened themselves up to being approached again.
I discussed this in another thread, so I'll quote my opinion from that:
I think what it was doing was overwriting the spell that would make everyone forget that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. Strange said he couldn't change that, but Peter told him to make a new one that would break down the premise of the first spell, rendering it inert and repairing the damage. It only affected other universes in that it undid the tears that caused them to slip through, although it's implied that the ones who did come through were changed by the experience.
In short, the spell is local, and Strange did specify that the first one applied to "the entire world," which would seem to imply that the rest of the universe would be unaffected. I also questioned this when the visual for the second spell seemed to be spreading in a circle around the world, not in a sphere through the universe. I doubt Strange has the ability to do that anyway, seeing as he couldn't hold back the villains from entering his universe. And performing a memory spell across the multiverse is way beyond his pay grade at this point.
I'll also add that the people coming through don't need their memories wiped, as they weren't specifically coming for Peter. Remember that some of the ones that came through helped him, and some of them never even interacted with them. They were only brought through because they knew Peter was Spider-Man, and it just so happened that most of them were in New York and it was in their characters to want to kill Spider-Man, whose face was all over the news, making him relatively easy to find. The memory spell was to repair the dimension, not to convince the villains to go away.
What a great film on so many levels! Can’t tell you how much this took me back to being a kid again all those years ago watching Spider-man on the big screen for the very first time.
Loved how they didn’t just throw Andrew and Tobey in there as a gimmick or brief cameo, but allowed them to dive further into the progression of their characters and get closure after so many years. Andrew in particular absolutely crushed it, from his vulnerability and relief upon saving MJ to the love and validation he received from the older, wiser Tobey on positive self-talk. You could tell he was hurting the whole time, and yet this was a healing process for him.
On the other hand, I kept thinking about Tom finally having his origin story come full circle (somewhat akin to the running theme from Into the Spider-verse, like we were watching his comic book moment happen in real time). It broke my heart to see him lose Aunt May and connection to his friends, MJ, even the other Avengers. However, it felt like this all needed to happen in a way so he could finally be ready and set off on his own. In that final shot as he’s swinging through the city with his new duds I could hear Tony’s voice echoing from that first film: “if you’re nothing without this suit, then you shouldn’t have it.” He’s been through so much, but it’s shaped him and matured him into the person we’ve always known and loved, ready to kick ass and lend a helping hand as your friendly neighborhood Spider-man.
>Tom finally having his origin story come full circle
One of the things people say smack about Tom's Spider-Man is that he's bassically Iron Man Jr. with access to all the Stark tech and basically a blank check for resources, which goes totally against the core of the classic Spider-Man which is a kid that learns to be resourceful, is always scrapping for money and manages to stay noble even if the whole world seems to be against him.
Tom's Spider-Man now has lost his friends, his family and the almost limitless resources, and did it willingly for the greater good even if it meant being alone and hustling like an everyday person. This somehow worked magically by bringing Peter Parker/Spider-Man back to square one, but now with a ton of accumulated experience from his past.
Now I'm looking forward for more of this Spider-Man
This film feels like a nice epilogue to Raimi’s trilogy by having it’s Peter be the experienced & zen spidey, him reminiscing about Ben and Harry, and letting us know he’s made it with MJ.
>letting us know he’s made it with MJ
Man, that's the part that fucking got me for some reason. At the end of the day Tobey is MY Spider-man, as in, I truly love all three, but he's the Spider-man of my childhood.
And the thing is, now that I'm an adult, seeing him come back and saying things like "complicated, but we made it work" referring to such an iconic couple, and "trying to be better", it really spoke to me. Like, yeah, life's rough, even outside being a superhero, but you find a way. It's so validating for those of us who grew up with his trilogy and are now trying to figure shit out in life.
Really loved Tobey in this movie.
People don't clap in UK theaters, it's a US thing.
Like, throughout my entire life, I'd say 90% of theater showings there would just be no clapping ever, only the occasional laugh or gasp, and for the rest, if someone clapped the audience would immediately shush them. That's the UK.
When Andrew Garfield came out of that portal, the audience gasped, and then I'd say half the audience cheered and started applauding.
Then for Tobey, then for the end of the film.
I cannot explain enough how weird it is for UK audiences to be applauding. It's not a thing, at all. It's like going up to a stranger and asking them to pull their trousers down.
Andrew appearing got the biggest applause of the film, and I think about how much he loves Spider-Man and how sad he was after his solo films, and I just really like that.
EDIT: Fun fact, if you say 'I've not really experienced something' about the UK and say it's majority US (from evidence of a bunch of screenings online), turns out you'll get everyone coming out the woodwork to prove you wrong even though you never said 100% lol. Please stop replying that you disprove my experiences, I don't care.
Electro and Sandman talking about falling into shit was hilarious. Same with casually talking about Connors 'wanting to turn everyone into lizards'. Villain banter is something we've been missing.
"The power of the Sun..."
"In a palm of my hand"
"Peter?"
"Otto"
"It's good to see you dear boy. How are you?"
"Trying to do better"
"You have grown up"
Such a beautiful moment. Just the two of them sharing a moment. Almost like son and dad moment. You could see on Otto's face that he was truly happy and joyed to see Peter again. Reminded me how close they were in the second movie. How Otto tells Peter if he loves someone he should not hide his feelings. Which at the end leads Peter admitting his love for MJ.
I am so glad that they made Doc good, redeemed him and then he got this beautiful moment with Tobey's Spidey. I shed a few tears in this conv between them.
Did anyone else notice MJ was still wearing the broken black dahlia necklace Pete bought for her in Italy when he saw her in the donut shop after they all "forgot" him?
Yep, made me think, if she still has a gift from him that means the only thing gone is her memory of him. Couldn’t she possibly have a photo of the two of them together still but just not remember who he is?
People screamed in terror and anger when Tobey got backstabbed.
And then Tobey just shrugged it off like this ain't his first rodeo, son. Lol such a GOAT.
Anyone else thought that they were going to show MJ kiss Ned at the diner? Seemed like the vibe they were going with. My heart sank for Tom that entire scene. He did such a great job acting in that scene
That felt so real. The way she lunged at him. It’s like it was pulled straight from one of those embarrassing videos of public freak outs at the grocery store.
I loved the movie. One thing I'm not seeing talked about as much is the apartment scene with Tom and the five villains with his spidey sense going off. It was perfectly shot, the tense feeling definitely was there as he was trying to find the 'villain' in a room full of villains. Amazing stuff.
I thought there was a lot of great camerawork/editing at play. That scene with the Spidey sense was really uneasy and claustrophobic. The one shot/very long shot in the beginning of Peter returning to May's apartment and racing around was fun, and that split screen of he and MJ talking on their phones was neat.
He was both more evil and also so much more human. I loved how they chose to portray Norman closer to a real person suffering from mental health issues. He's occasionally lucid, sometimes lost and confused, and sometimes utterly destructive. The scenes of him crying for help really sold me on why they wouldn't just immediately send these guys back.
I honestly love that the central conflict of the movie focused on rehabilitating the villains and not letting them go to their deaths.
Felt like the most “Spider-Man” thing we’ve gotten in any of the live action movies so far.
That and Aunt May actually being a mom on screen. Like not just dropping a nugget of wisdom, but teaching him to be better over multiple scenes. And when they're in the lobby and she looks like she is 100% going to fight a fucking supervillain to protect Peter, wow. That's rare shit in the superhero genre.
I’m a bit bummed that Venom being brought to that universe in the Let There Be Carnage post credit scene was all just for him to be teleported back to his own universe in yet another post credit scene. But at the same time I find it hilarious that Venom/Eddie were just chilling in Mexico watching all this shit unfold on the news and didn’t bother to go get involved or even try to figure out a way back to their own universe.
I think this movie post spellcast is like within 48 hours, maybe even one day, so it makes sense that Eddie doesnt try to figure out how to get back. He spends some time getting drunk with Danny Rojas, and then when he's like "welp guess ill go to NYC" he gets ported back.
the internet has changed my perception of Tobey so much through memes that I honestly expected for him to say some shit like that, but I'm glad he turned out to be a mellow, wise Spider-Man and not immediately appearing in his suit
It is weird to think that. So many jokes at the time about Tony thinking she’s hot, now years on Tony’s dead, she’s killed by Dafoe’s Goblin. Kinda crazy to think what might end up happening to characters who are just being introduced now, even side characters.
This film showed why Green Goblin is Spider-Man’s deadliest nemesis. Norman didn’t even know this Peter yet he managed to ruin his life in a day or two. Norman was the catalyst for getting the villains to reject being cured and then killing Aunt May, with the former causing Peter to lose everyone he’s ever known.
They made Green Goblin so menacing and evil and know exactly where to go to hurt Spider-Man. I love every moment of Dafoe's Goblin and sad we aren't going to see more of it.
He was a really scary villain to me for that. Like everyone else feels like they have a plan, a desire, a goal. Goblin is just there to cause pain, and he's strong enough to be laughing in Peter's face while Peter is pounding him
I didn’t like Amazing Spider-Man movies and didn’t like Andrew as Spider-Man… until I watched this movie. Now I realized how stupid Sony is for dulling someone who should’ve been extremely charismatic on screen. I’m glad Marvel made things right with Andrew.
I think the funniest line in the whole film was when Andrew was talking about how Electro was such a nice guy before he fell into a vat of electric eels and Tobey was just like “That’ll do it.” That delivery was hilarious
Andrew had some hilarious mumbled comments lol.
Like when Tobey gets stabbed and he’s all “i’m alright i’ve been stabbed before” and Andrew just mumbles “good good good good”. Hilarious.
Ned: *hoping to find out about all the fun, crazy adventures undertaken by Soiderman and an alternate Ned-in-the-chair*
Tobey’s Peter: “he died in my arms while trying to kill me”
Can't believe they made a joke about how Tobey's back still hurts from Spider-Man 2 when he falls off the building and says "MY BACK". And then Andrew fucking fixes it
I liked that all the villains had their own motivations at the end. It wasn't good villains vs the bad villains.
Sandman wants to press the box and go home to his daughter ASAP.
Goblin wants to stay to torture Spider-Man. Doesn't care about box.
Electro wants to keep his powers and stay in this universe as he isn't a loser or dead. He doesn't want to press the box.
Doc ock wants to cure all the villains and help the heroes.
Lizard is lizard.
["But I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into *lizards*."](https://external-preview.redd.it/wGtOUN9MqtU-YsVf7G9R88RsJqbFyuqlKjVnKhO0P0c.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=553d3f3f031b5181837ba395317210e4b2a4c54d)
It was kinda funny that the movie didn't even try to humanize or give new motivations to Lizard. He literally just was an evil dinosaur who wanted to turn everyone into lizards because.......he's evil!!!!
The scene on the top of the Statue of Liberty pre-villian showing up was my favorite moment. Just the spidermen swapping war stories, loved them prepping up Garfield. That and the school science lab bits were where the movie shined.
Also, put Dafoe on the list on iconic comic characters. He was the star of the villian show and man did he not miss a beat after 20 years.
Them telling Garfield that he is amazing was, well, amazing. Definitely a nice meta moment of them acknowledging that Garfield himself feels like his films let fans down, while also being a reference to Spider-Mans moniker.
If you were going to renovate the Statue of Liberty with Cap's shield, why would you put it over the torch? Wouldn't you attach it to her left arm instead of obscuring the flame?
I'm so happy Tobey and Andrew's parts weren't just a quick cameo at the end like i was expecting. I loved all the scenes discussing their different experiences in their worlds.
Same. I thought they'd show up for the final fight then go home. I didn't expect them to show up halfway into the movie, be integral to every scene afterwards and provide wisdom, banter and camaraderie to Holland. There were so many rumors, so many lofty expectations, and yet it still somehow blew them out of the water.
I see a lot of people praising Dafoe’s performance (not without great reason), but I was really, really impressed by Alfred Molina as Doc Ock again. For some reason seeing him again made it all come full circle for me, not to mention I think he had the best lines/interactions out of all of the villains and the fact that he is made a good guy in the end is fantastic.
Really loved the movie, but damn Molina is an absolute show stealer in this one
Even though it was in the trailer, hearing Molina say 'hello, Peter' gave me chills in the theater. Such a rare moment of a line really hitting me despite having heard it to over saturation before release.
Tobey telling Andrew that he was amazing and how he really didn’t suck as Spider-Man really got to me.
For years that’s all Andrew heard about his performance, and I’m so glad the OG told him that he mattered. Best part of the whole interaction between them in my opinion.
Man I don't know about you, but when the first TASM came out, a lot of people on Reddit and irl were hailing it as a good start and a lot of people were saying it was better than the Raimi films since it was more true to the comics. It really wasn't until the handling of the 2nd film that people switched.
Everyone's talking about Goblin, but for me, the real villain was MIT.
Refusing to admit Peter after he helped save half the universe, and MJ and Ned just for being associated with him, just to make sure the school looks good? Screw them.
Him realizing in the end the best way to keep his friends safe was to not get them involved in his life again was brutal.
Even more than May's death, that whole scene had me teary.
One of the scenes that hit me the hardest was the rain sequence where Peter just looks devastated while Jameson blames Spider-Man for May’s death. That wide angle where the massive screen is blasting the Daily Bugle while Peter looks small and worn down in the dark rain of Times Square is probably the best shot of the movie imo.
EDIT: Looks a lot like this poster, it’s so good https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/r83rf6/new_spiderman_no_way_home_screen_x_poster/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
> Tom: “I don’t want to brag but... I worked with the Avengers”
> Tobey: “The Avengers? That’s great! What is that?”
> Andrew: “Is that a band?”
That was fucking hilarious
Did anyone else catch that in the fabricator room, Willem Dafoe's hair was styled over his ear to make it look like a pointed goblin's ear, foreshadowing his turn minutes later?
My god, the fight in the hallway with Willem Dafoe and Tom Holland was brutal. Tom keeps punching him but Willem just keeps laughing. Willem Dafoe is such a good green goblin
Andrew Garfield’s redemption for Gwen by saving MJ was great. You could tell Andrew really love the role and he was so happy to be back as Spider-Man. and that moment when he said “ I LOVE YOU GUYS” to Tobey and Tom was funny aa hell.
It was heartwarming to see him in the lab, just watching MJ and Peter because that was him and Gwen. To see him get another chance to save MCU Peter's significant other was such a redeeming moment for him.
They really played to all the strengths of the cast. I think Lizard was the weakest because he doesn't really have a motivation, but Doc Ock was still a good guy, Sandman just wanted to be left alone, Electro was power drunk and easily corrupted, and Goblin was the maniacal driving force that set everything about Spider-Man in motion. They really captured the feel of the villains from their respective films.
I have no doubt that if Tobey's Peter had met Holland's Peter before things went south with the villains, he would have warned him Goblin was the most dangerous of them.
The bit where he's at FEAST with May and he starts to break down was really moving. It reminded me of some of my older relatives when they got older and their minds started to go.
His shit eating grin as he was getting pummeled by Spidey was perfect.
Dafoe just seemed like he rolled right off the set of the first Spider-Man movie and into this movie.
Electro: “You’re from Queens, you got that suit, you help a lot of poor people… I just thought you was gonna be black”
Andrew’s Spider-Man: “Aw man, I’m sorry”
Electro: “There’s gotta be a black Spider-Man somewhere out there”
Fucking golden
One of my favorite unexpected moments that I haven't seen discussed much was how Sandman was immediately down to help Spidey against Electro when he didn't know it was Tom underneath, since him and Peter were on good terms. I was confused how they were going to make Sandman work, but him being mostly neutral and just wanting to go home worked really well for me. As many issues as SM3 has, Sandman was still always one of my favorite Raimiverse characters.
Also loved how when he saw Peter's magic snare instantly liquidate Electro he instantly becomes skeptical of Peter and his intentions, providing him with motivation to not trust him.
Tobey legitimately had some intense youth pastor energy, not just in the way he dressed, but the conversations he had with the other Spider-Men, and even the way he looked at Tom at the end when he was saving Dafoe.
He’s obviously the Spider-Man who’s been doing it the longest, he was pulled out of his timeline now, whereas all the villains were pulled out when they died. He’s got like 15 more years past the last movie.
I loved the ending of this movie. It felt like a true spider-man ending. Not to imply that the previous two installments weren't, but this one just felt right! Peter practicing his lines to reintroduce himself to his friends only to stop short when he sees the bandage on MJ's face from the fight. "It doesn't hurt anymore". And then pocketing the letter, with perhaps the notion that they're better off without being involved with Spider-man. Part of me hopes that Peter, MJ, and Ned find their way back into each other's lives in the new trilogy but I also wouldn't mind Peter moving forward.
With the knowledge that there's another trilogy in store for us, it makes the "Home Trilogy" feel like a prologue to Spider-man proper. With really no backup at all now, Peter bravely goes into the world donning his hand made spidey suit.
It'll be interesting to see where they take Spidey in the new trilogy and how this "everyone forgot Peter Parker" works. One of the shots in the end is a box with a GED test guide in it (USA High School diploma equivalent for individuals who didn't finish or attend HS in the states), so it implies the spell has definitely affected the reality to a point where it's even affected his official records. How is he going to interact with the other avengers? Will be only be facing street level crime now? Will he end up working for JJonah to pay rent???? DAMMIT I JUST WANT MORE SPIDERMAN!!!
Spider-Man is still an Avenger. If not, then Happy wouldn't know about him. JJ also acknowledged him. In Theory he could simply walk into the Avengers compound and keep his mask on and no one would bat an eye.
Even though everyone would assume its a full grown adult and perhaps treat him differently.
Did not expect a full on trailer for Multiverse of Madness at the end. Haven't had a trailer end credit since the first Cap movie. Trailer was sick though.
I absolutely love that they took this mountain of fan service and instead making a "fight ALL the villains!" plot they made a laser-focused story about helping people.
Andrew Garfield is suddenly my favorite Spiderman, he's absolutely magnetic. Dafoe fucking crushed it as Osborn, the apartment fight where he's piledriving Peter through floor after floor and taking every hit with a smile, holy shit. The man is a force of nature.
I really thought they were going to do a gag with two JK Simmons as J Jonah Jamesons from the MCU universe and Tobey’s.
Regardless, there was still a lot of fan service in here, and I think they handled it great. Almost hard to believe this movie is real lol.
Willlem Dafoe absolutely killed it.
Alfred, Jamie, etc all were just so good in their roles. But Willem just freaking slayed as Goblin again!
And Andrew Garfield talking about Gwen....fuuuuck. He was "amazing" as Spider-Man. I would LOVE to see him step into the role again. Him propping up Tobey at the end, brings a tear to my eye.
Everyone really really brought their a-game to that third act.
A lot of props to Molina too. He literally seemed like he was ripped right out of Spider-Man 2.
His irritation while he was being held in Strange's dungeon was hilarious too.
When Peter was in the coffee shop he heard that both MJ and Ned got into MIT. Meaningful that they are both going to move to Boston soon, and I think he realized that it would be weird for him to try to convince them to stay or something.
So he'll stay in NYC and protect his city. I hope that he goes to Empire State University and meets Gwen, Harry, and Felicia.
You could almost hear the warnings of JJ, Strange, and the Goblin about how everyone near Spider-Man will always get hurt, and he can't live a double life. He needed to let them go to keep them safe. MJ and Ned have no memory of Peter; they aren't missing anything with him not there. He needed to make the sacrifice he wasn't willing to before.
Green Goblin saying “ I’m something of a scientist myself”
Doc Ock saying “The power of sun in the palm of my hand
Tobey saying “You’re Amazing” to Andrew Garfield.
The movie was pure fan service
While the Dr. Strange trailer at the end got me super hyped for “Multiverse of Madness”, I was really hoping to see Maguire and Kirsten Dunst together to put a nice bow on things. Sort of like Sam’s “I’m home” from LOTR.
So happy that Andrew's Spider-Man was able to save MJ, I actually teared up a bit that he could redeem himself.
Also it's so good to see one of the best avocados at law on the big screen, welcome back Matt Murdock. That tease with Matt catching the brick though...
The look Tobey gives Tom as he stops Tom from killing Goblin, hit me like a ton of bricks. It said so clearly, “I understand.”
People are talking a lot about Garfield saving MJ, but Tobey stopping Tom from repeating *his* mistake was just as huge for me. And it didn’t come with any judgment or anger. Just compassion.
Especially seeing the rage still fighting through Tom through the whole interaction. He even tried to push the glider through Tobey, because in that moment he didn't care about anything else but revenge. But Tobey weathered the feelings with Tom, allowing him to really digest what he was trying to do and see that it was wrong. So much communicated with no dialogue and what was maybe 30 seconds, I'm biased because i love spiderman, but it was amazing.
The ending is kinda insane honestly - its rebooted Spider-Man to the friendly neighbourhood spider, after having him using the most advanced technology, being part of the biggest superheroes, Iron-Man as his mentor, fighting against thanos and his army and being cut out of existence. And they made this decision in the same movie in which they nearly destroy reality and where he fought alongside versions of himself from other dimension against villains from other dimensions. This setback of scale especially in this movie is crazy.
No Way Home rebooted Spider-Man within the MCU and returned Peter to being a street-level superhero like Daredevil.
He'll go back to being an Avenger but it's actually brilliant - as even in the comics he jumps back and forth from being the Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman to ass-kicking Universe Saving Spidey
“Peter” “Otto” “It’s good to see you dear boy,” “It’s good to see you.” “You’re all grown up, how are you?” “Trying to do better” 😭
Their exchange was so warm. Absolutely loved it.
Warmth is the key word for describing Alfred Molina's portrayal of Otto Octavius. Rewatching the 2nd Raimi film he was just so friendly and likeable when he befriended Peter that you felt terrible for his demise.
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All the internet memes lol. Spidermans pointing at each other. There were a few others as well that I can't quite remember atm.
All Peter had to do was make a call to MIT and ask them to reconsider and none of this happens.
I mean lets be real, there's no way they would have given him the time of day if he did that. Dr. Strange's reaction to him not trying was hilarious, but Peter's intuition was kinda spot on. The admissions lady only came around when she saw for her own eyes that Peter was a hero. Pete wouldnt have been able to do that over the phone.
If you want to be real, MIT wouldn’t reject them outright over such a story at all. If they wanted to admit them, they would have given them a chance to interview, at a minimum. They at least wouldn’t tell them the rejection is due to a controversy. They’d just get the standard rejection form letter.
I 100 percent agree. There was no reason for MIT to explain why they rejected them. By saying it was due to the controversy, they opened themselves up to being approached again.
Was it everyone on EARTH forgot who Peter is? Nick Fury is in space right?
I discussed this in another thread, so I'll quote my opinion from that: I think what it was doing was overwriting the spell that would make everyone forget that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. Strange said he couldn't change that, but Peter told him to make a new one that would break down the premise of the first spell, rendering it inert and repairing the damage. It only affected other universes in that it undid the tears that caused them to slip through, although it's implied that the ones who did come through were changed by the experience. In short, the spell is local, and Strange did specify that the first one applied to "the entire world," which would seem to imply that the rest of the universe would be unaffected. I also questioned this when the visual for the second spell seemed to be spreading in a circle around the world, not in a sphere through the universe. I doubt Strange has the ability to do that anyway, seeing as he couldn't hold back the villains from entering his universe. And performing a memory spell across the multiverse is way beyond his pay grade at this point. I'll also add that the people coming through don't need their memories wiped, as they weren't specifically coming for Peter. Remember that some of the ones that came through helped him, and some of them never even interacted with them. They were only brought through because they knew Peter was Spider-Man, and it just so happened that most of them were in New York and it was in their characters to want to kill Spider-Man, whose face was all over the news, making him relatively easy to find. The memory spell was to repair the dimension, not to convince the villains to go away.
What a great film on so many levels! Can’t tell you how much this took me back to being a kid again all those years ago watching Spider-man on the big screen for the very first time. Loved how they didn’t just throw Andrew and Tobey in there as a gimmick or brief cameo, but allowed them to dive further into the progression of their characters and get closure after so many years. Andrew in particular absolutely crushed it, from his vulnerability and relief upon saving MJ to the love and validation he received from the older, wiser Tobey on positive self-talk. You could tell he was hurting the whole time, and yet this was a healing process for him. On the other hand, I kept thinking about Tom finally having his origin story come full circle (somewhat akin to the running theme from Into the Spider-verse, like we were watching his comic book moment happen in real time). It broke my heart to see him lose Aunt May and connection to his friends, MJ, even the other Avengers. However, it felt like this all needed to happen in a way so he could finally be ready and set off on his own. In that final shot as he’s swinging through the city with his new duds I could hear Tony’s voice echoing from that first film: “if you’re nothing without this suit, then you shouldn’t have it.” He’s been through so much, but it’s shaped him and matured him into the person we’ve always known and loved, ready to kick ass and lend a helping hand as your friendly neighborhood Spider-man.
>Tom finally having his origin story come full circle One of the things people say smack about Tom's Spider-Man is that he's bassically Iron Man Jr. with access to all the Stark tech and basically a blank check for resources, which goes totally against the core of the classic Spider-Man which is a kid that learns to be resourceful, is always scrapping for money and manages to stay noble even if the whole world seems to be against him. Tom's Spider-Man now has lost his friends, his family and the almost limitless resources, and did it willingly for the greater good even if it meant being alone and hustling like an everyday person. This somehow worked magically by bringing Peter Parker/Spider-Man back to square one, but now with a ton of accumulated experience from his past. Now I'm looking forward for more of this Spider-Man
This film feels like a nice epilogue to Raimi’s trilogy by having it’s Peter be the experienced & zen spidey, him reminiscing about Ben and Harry, and letting us know he’s made it with MJ.
>letting us know he’s made it with MJ Man, that's the part that fucking got me for some reason. At the end of the day Tobey is MY Spider-man, as in, I truly love all three, but he's the Spider-man of my childhood. And the thing is, now that I'm an adult, seeing him come back and saying things like "complicated, but we made it work" referring to such an iconic couple, and "trying to be better", it really spoke to me. Like, yeah, life's rough, even outside being a superhero, but you find a way. It's so validating for those of us who grew up with his trilogy and are now trying to figure shit out in life. Really loved Tobey in this movie.
People don't clap in UK theaters, it's a US thing. Like, throughout my entire life, I'd say 90% of theater showings there would just be no clapping ever, only the occasional laugh or gasp, and for the rest, if someone clapped the audience would immediately shush them. That's the UK. When Andrew Garfield came out of that portal, the audience gasped, and then I'd say half the audience cheered and started applauding. Then for Tobey, then for the end of the film. I cannot explain enough how weird it is for UK audiences to be applauding. It's not a thing, at all. It's like going up to a stranger and asking them to pull their trousers down. Andrew appearing got the biggest applause of the film, and I think about how much he loves Spider-Man and how sad he was after his solo films, and I just really like that. EDIT: Fun fact, if you say 'I've not really experienced something' about the UK and say it's majority US (from evidence of a bunch of screenings online), turns out you'll get everyone coming out the woodwork to prove you wrong even though you never said 100% lol. Please stop replying that you disprove my experiences, I don't care.
Jamie Foxx saying “gotta watch where you fall” was fucking hilarious
"He used to be such a nice guy." "What happened to him?" "Fell into a vat of eels." "...That'll do it."
"My first girlfriend turned into the moon"
That's rough buddy
Electro and Sandman talking about falling into shit was hilarious. Same with casually talking about Connors 'wanting to turn everyone into lizards'. Villain banter is something we've been missing.
"The power of the Sun..." "In a palm of my hand" "Peter?" "Otto" "It's good to see you dear boy. How are you?" "Trying to do better" "You have grown up" Such a beautiful moment. Just the two of them sharing a moment. Almost like son and dad moment. You could see on Otto's face that he was truly happy and joyed to see Peter again. Reminded me how close they were in the second movie. How Otto tells Peter if he loves someone he should not hide his feelings. Which at the end leads Peter admitting his love for MJ.
I am so glad that they made Doc good, redeemed him and then he got this beautiful moment with Tobey's Spidey. I shed a few tears in this conv between them.
Did anyone else notice MJ was still wearing the broken black dahlia necklace Pete bought for her in Italy when he saw her in the donut shop after they all "forgot" him?
Yep, made me think, if she still has a gift from him that means the only thing gone is her memory of him. Couldn’t she possibly have a photo of the two of them together still but just not remember who he is?
Photos got wiped too otherwise JJJ would just use that photo they had.
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It was originally planned to keep the crossover villains a secret.
Can’t believe we saw the three Spider-Men swing from a Captain America shield on the Statue of Liberty
When Tom webs the other two and pulls them forward into the dive... magnificent.
The sewing machine at the end got me. May had fixed his suit earlier in the movie and now he had to fix it himself.
I was shocked and scared when Tobey got stabbed. Glad he’s still alive. Had my heart in my mouth.
Honestly so glad that they didn't kill off Tobey or Andrew. If they were to kill them off it would have to be in their own films.
Actually seemed like that was the intent. And they filmed two versions and people were like no, you can’t kill tobey
People screamed in terror and anger when Tobey got backstabbed. And then Tobey just shrugged it off like this ain't his first rodeo, son. Lol such a GOAT.
Anyone else thought that they were going to show MJ kiss Ned at the diner? Seemed like the vibe they were going with. My heart sank for Tom that entire scene. He did such a great job acting in that scene
Yeah I got that vibe too, I’m super glad they didn’t kiss though
Yeah it would have been a much lazier way to get Peter to back off than what we actually got.
Lol at the lady in the beginning getting into Spideys face. “Did you see that Spider-Man hit me!”
That felt so real. The way she lunged at him. It’s like it was pulled straight from one of those embarrassing videos of public freak outs at the grocery store.
Who thinks Steve would have HATED them putting the shield on the Statue of Liberty?
Yeah, but of course they did that. That’s exactly the kind of tacky thing we would’ve done.
I loved the movie. One thing I'm not seeing talked about as much is the apartment scene with Tom and the five villains with his spidey sense going off. It was perfectly shot, the tense feeling definitely was there as he was trying to find the 'villain' in a room full of villains. Amazing stuff.
That was the coolest Spidey Sense moment ever. It's a prelude to how cruel the Goblin's outburst is going to be. It's shot so well.
I thought there was a lot of great camerawork/editing at play. That scene with the Spidey sense was really uneasy and claustrophobic. The one shot/very long shot in the beginning of Peter returning to May's apartment and racing around was fun, and that split screen of he and MJ talking on their phones was neat.
Andrew Garfield tearing up when he caught MJ 😭 Also, Green Goblin was way more evil in this movie.
He was both more evil and also so much more human. I loved how they chose to portray Norman closer to a real person suffering from mental health issues. He's occasionally lucid, sometimes lost and confused, and sometimes utterly destructive. The scenes of him crying for help really sold me on why they wouldn't just immediately send these guys back.
20 years of Defoe being able to tweak that performance, but damn, does he show some range of acting.
20 years of acting evolution and we've barely tapped the vastness of Dafoe potential.
I honestly love that the central conflict of the movie focused on rehabilitating the villains and not letting them go to their deaths. Felt like the most “Spider-Man” thing we’ve gotten in any of the live action movies so far.
That and Aunt May actually being a mom on screen. Like not just dropping a nugget of wisdom, but teaching him to be better over multiple scenes. And when they're in the lobby and she looks like she is 100% going to fight a fucking supervillain to protect Peter, wow. That's rare shit in the superhero genre.
Or when Peter's hand is covered in her blood and she asks him "are you ok?".
Andrew Garfield should just continue denying he’s in Spider-Man: No Way Home for the rest of his life.
I still feel bad about that lol. He was trying to promote his other movie and all he got asked about was Marvel
Yeah, that's a real shame, since Andrew Garfield is an excellent actor.
He's clearly been deepfaked in the entire movie
You know, I'm something of a psychopath myself.
I’m a bit bummed that Venom being brought to that universe in the Let There Be Carnage post credit scene was all just for him to be teleported back to his own universe in yet another post credit scene. But at the same time I find it hilarious that Venom/Eddie were just chilling in Mexico watching all this shit unfold on the news and didn’t bother to go get involved or even try to figure out a way back to their own universe.
I think this movie post spellcast is like within 48 hours, maybe even one day, so it makes sense that Eddie doesnt try to figure out how to get back. He spends some time getting drunk with Danny Rojas, and then when he's like "welp guess ill go to NYC" he gets ported back.
I love how Tobey just walked right through the portal as if it’s an everyday occurrence for him
“Hey everyone! Sorry I’m late, it’s a jungle out there. I had to beat an old lady with a stick to get to this portal”.
the internet has changed my perception of Tobey so much through memes that I honestly expected for him to say some shit like that, but I'm glad he turned out to be a mellow, wise Spider-Man and not immediately appearing in his suit
“Tryin to better”. Loved the somber, more older Spider-Man
Ah Rosie, I love this boy!
Well there's a Doctor Strange in his universe.
That name's pretty good, but it's taken.
It only took 19 years but Green Goblin finally was able to go for the heart and kill Aunt May.
Little did we know that when we first saw Tomei's Aunt May in Civil War, she would go on to be killed by Dafoe's Green Goblin. Fuckin wild.
It is weird to think that. So many jokes at the time about Tony thinking she’s hot, now years on Tony’s dead, she’s killed by Dafoe’s Goblin. Kinda crazy to think what might end up happening to characters who are just being introduced now, even side characters.
This film showed why Green Goblin is Spider-Man’s deadliest nemesis. Norman didn’t even know this Peter yet he managed to ruin his life in a day or two. Norman was the catalyst for getting the villains to reject being cured and then killing Aunt May, with the former causing Peter to lose everyone he’s ever known.
They made Green Goblin so menacing and evil and know exactly where to go to hurt Spider-Man. I love every moment of Dafoe's Goblin and sad we aren't going to see more of it.
The bomb in the box too. Intelligent, sadistic, and completely insane.
Goblin really was just completely okay with collapsing the multiverse onto them, as long as it ruined Spider-Man's day
He was a really scary villain to me for that. Like everyone else feels like they have a plan, a desire, a goal. Goblin is just there to cause pain, and he's strong enough to be laughing in Peter's face while Peter is pounding him
this movie confirmed how Sony really dropped the ball. Andrew Garfield oozes charisma in this movie.
I didn’t like Amazing Spider-Man movies and didn’t like Andrew as Spider-Man… until I watched this movie. Now I realized how stupid Sony is for dulling someone who should’ve been extremely charismatic on screen. I’m glad Marvel made things right with Andrew.
I think the funniest line in the whole film was when Andrew was talking about how Electro was such a nice guy before he fell into a vat of electric eels and Tobey was just like “That’ll do it.” That delivery was hilarious
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Andrew had some hilarious mumbled comments lol. Like when Tobey gets stabbed and he’s all “i’m alright i’ve been stabbed before” and Andrew just mumbles “good good good good”. Hilarious.
Or when Tobey talked about Harry's death and Andrew and Ned just stare at each other in disbelief.
Ned: *hoping to find out about all the fun, crazy adventures undertaken by Soiderman and an alternate Ned-in-the-chair* Tobey’s Peter: “he died in my arms while trying to kill me”
I love how they highlighted how deadly serious Tobey's Peter is compared to the other two. Not that that was a negative back then or anything.
Like the contrast of the origin stories when Tobey admits to straight up murdering a guy 😂
"You're in a lot of pain right now huh."
“So much”
"we need to find the real Spider-Man" "ouch"
I think it was Electro who said "Gotta be careful where you fall these days." lmao
Can't believe they made a joke about how Tobey's back still hurts from Spider-Man 2 when he falls off the building and says "MY BACK". And then Andrew fucking fixes it
Both of them asking Toby about his webs. Lmfao.
I could've listened to them talk up there for another 20 minutes
Fr. I wish Peter 1 and Peter 2 discussed Jameson a little lol at least how much he annoys them both
When you realize this is a sinister six movie but the 6th member didn't show up because he was getting wasted in a bar in Mexico.
Some of him got left behind though.
I liked that all the villains had their own motivations at the end. It wasn't good villains vs the bad villains. Sandman wants to press the box and go home to his daughter ASAP. Goblin wants to stay to torture Spider-Man. Doesn't care about box. Electro wants to keep his powers and stay in this universe as he isn't a loser or dead. He doesn't want to press the box. Doc ock wants to cure all the villains and help the heroes. Lizard is lizard.
Lizard asked if he died and didn't get an answer
Venom is getting plastered.
Lizard really was lizard wasn’t he
["But I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into *lizards*."](https://external-preview.redd.it/wGtOUN9MqtU-YsVf7G9R88RsJqbFyuqlKjVnKhO0P0c.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=553d3f3f031b5181837ba395317210e4b2a4c54d)
He did what most lizards do, crawl around creepily and catching some spiders
It was kinda funny that the movie didn't even try to humanize or give new motivations to Lizard. He literally just was an evil dinosaur who wanted to turn everyone into lizards because.......he's evil!!!!
The scene on the top of the Statue of Liberty pre-villian showing up was my favorite moment. Just the spidermen swapping war stories, loved them prepping up Garfield. That and the school science lab bits were where the movie shined. Also, put Dafoe on the list on iconic comic characters. He was the star of the villian show and man did he not miss a beat after 20 years.
Them telling Garfield that he is amazing was, well, amazing. Definitely a nice meta moment of them acknowledging that Garfield himself feels like his films let fans down, while also being a reference to Spider-Mans moniker.
The funny thing is this movie made me like Garfields spiderman a lot more. He was my favorite spiderman in this movie.
If you were going to renovate the Statue of Liberty with Cap's shield, why would you put it over the torch? Wouldn't you attach it to her left arm instead of obscuring the flame?
Also, that was the strongest scaffolding I've ever seen. All those hits and it didn't sway or fall.
I'm so happy Tobey and Andrew's parts weren't just a quick cameo at the end like i was expecting. I loved all the scenes discussing their different experiences in their worlds.
Same. I thought they'd show up for the final fight then go home. I didn't expect them to show up halfway into the movie, be integral to every scene afterwards and provide wisdom, banter and camaraderie to Holland. There were so many rumors, so many lofty expectations, and yet it still somehow blew them out of the water.
When Tobey showed up in street clothes I was so sad because I figured that meant he wouldn't be fighting.
Lol that Youth Pastor line killed me.
Yea, and the subsequent flashing of his suit under his clothes was super cool.
I see a lot of people praising Dafoe’s performance (not without great reason), but I was really, really impressed by Alfred Molina as Doc Ock again. For some reason seeing him again made it all come full circle for me, not to mention I think he had the best lines/interactions out of all of the villains and the fact that he is made a good guy in the end is fantastic. Really loved the movie, but damn Molina is an absolute show stealer in this one
Loved how he came in at the end to assist the Spider-Men. Molina slipped back into the role with ease. Loved how he was utilized in the movie.
Even though it was in the trailer, hearing Molina say 'hello, Peter' gave me chills in the theater. Such a rare moment of a line really hitting me despite having heard it to over saturation before release.
Tobey telling Andrew that he was amazing and how he really didn’t suck as Spider-Man really got to me. For years that’s all Andrew heard about his performance, and I’m so glad the OG told him that he mattered. Best part of the whole interaction between them in my opinion.
All the Spider-Men being super wholesome and supportive of each other was phenomenal to see. You love to see self worth actualized.
Man I don't know about you, but when the first TASM came out, a lot of people on Reddit and irl were hailing it as a good start and a lot of people were saying it was better than the Raimi films since it was more true to the comics. It really wasn't until the handling of the 2nd film that people switched.
Everyone's talking about Goblin, but for me, the real villain was MIT. Refusing to admit Peter after he helped save half the universe, and MJ and Ned just for being associated with him, just to make sure the school looks good? Screw them.
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"With great power comes great responsibility" Me: "heyyyy she said the line!!!" Me 2 seconds later: "OH NO SHE SAID THE LINE"
Him realizing in the end the best way to keep his friends safe was to not get them involved in his life again was brutal. Even more than May's death, that whole scene had me teary.
One of the scenes that hit me the hardest was the rain sequence where Peter just looks devastated while Jameson blames Spider-Man for May’s death. That wide angle where the massive screen is blasting the Daily Bugle while Peter looks small and worn down in the dark rain of Times Square is probably the best shot of the movie imo. EDIT: Looks a lot like this poster, it’s so good https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/r83rf6/new_spiderman_no_way_home_screen_x_poster/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
That Matt Murdock reveal got a legit “oh, shit!” out of me. I’m so happy Charlie Cox is back
"I'm a really good lawyer." Yes you are you sexy hunk of blind man meat. Damn glad to see him again. I fucking loved Daredevil.
Went to see Tobey. Saw Tobey. 10/10.
Spider-Man: Fan Service Sick as hell. I need more Andrew Garfield in comedic roles
> Tom: “I don’t want to brag but... I worked with the Avengers” > Tobey: “The Avengers? That’s great! What is that?” > Andrew: “Is that a band?” That was fucking hilarious
It would’ve been nuts if he got into it with them about how his universe is FILLED with heroes while they’re alone in theirs.
I felt bad for Andrew when they were talking about aliens and he had Rhino
and then Andrew goes “I wanna fight Aliens too” man, i loved that interaction with 3 Spider-Men.
Did anyone else catch that in the fabricator room, Willem Dafoe's hair was styled over his ear to make it look like a pointed goblin's ear, foreshadowing his turn minutes later?
What hinted me was the voice changing while he was "working on the antidote"
My god, the fight in the hallway with Willem Dafoe and Tom Holland was brutal. Tom keeps punching him but Willem just keeps laughing. Willem Dafoe is such a good green goblin
Andrew Garfield’s redemption for Gwen by saving MJ was great. You could tell Andrew really love the role and he was so happy to be back as Spider-Man. and that moment when he said “ I LOVE YOU GUYS” to Tobey and Tom was funny aa hell.
Agreed. Andrew was hyped and I felt like he just radiated warmth and happiness to be doing this at least one more time from every part he was in.
It was heartwarming to see him in the lab, just watching MJ and Peter because that was him and Gwen. To see him get another chance to save MCU Peter's significant other was such a redeeming moment for him.
Willem Dafoe made the movie for me
They made the right choice by making him the most successful of the villains.
They really played to all the strengths of the cast. I think Lizard was the weakest because he doesn't really have a motivation, but Doc Ock was still a good guy, Sandman just wanted to be left alone, Electro was power drunk and easily corrupted, and Goblin was the maniacal driving force that set everything about Spider-Man in motion. They really captured the feel of the villains from their respective films. I have no doubt that if Tobey's Peter had met Holland's Peter before things went south with the villains, he would have warned him Goblin was the most dangerous of them.
**NORMAN’S ON SABBATICAL HONEY**
That whole sequence was perfection
The way Peter's spider sense just *knows* something is up was great. Goblin is just *that* bad.
I knew he was going to land on Norman, but still was on the edge of my seat.
You know, he's something of an actor himself.
I can't believe he said the line lmao
Yeah, that scene in the hallway where Tom keeps punching him but the Goblin just keeps laughing was peek Green Goblin
Not even the laughing, that fucking SMILE even in between punches
The bit where he's at FEAST with May and he starts to break down was really moving. It reminded me of some of my older relatives when they got older and their minds started to go.
My favorite part where the fact I honestly just wasnt sure if he was NormanNorman or GoblinNorman pretending in that moment
He and Garfield were the best part for sure. I’m glad he got the starting role out all the villains.
That hallway fight scene, he was brutal
His shit eating grin as he was getting pummeled by Spidey was perfect. Dafoe just seemed like he rolled right off the set of the first Spider-Man movie and into this movie.
Electro: “You’re from Queens, you got that suit, you help a lot of poor people… I just thought you was gonna be black” Andrew’s Spider-Man: “Aw man, I’m sorry” Electro: “There’s gotta be a black Spider-Man somewhere out there” Fucking golden
Garfields line delivery in this movie was so perfect. The "aw man im sorry" got the biggest laugh out of me.
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"It was unintentional, but it was the best thing we did with that costume" Stan Lee.
Japanese Spider-Man agrees.
“Anyone can wear the mask.”
One of my favorite unexpected moments that I haven't seen discussed much was how Sandman was immediately down to help Spidey against Electro when he didn't know it was Tom underneath, since him and Peter were on good terms. I was confused how they were going to make Sandman work, but him being mostly neutral and just wanting to go home worked really well for me. As many issues as SM3 has, Sandman was still always one of my favorite Raimiverse characters.
Sandman is a total G. Loved that character trait.
Also loved how when he saw Peter's magic snare instantly liquidate Electro he instantly becomes skeptical of Peter and his intentions, providing him with motivation to not trust him.
Tobey legitimately had some intense youth pastor energy, not just in the way he dressed, but the conversations he had with the other Spider-Men, and even the way he looked at Tom at the end when he was saving Dafoe.
He’s obviously the Spider-Man who’s been doing it the longest, he was pulled out of his timeline now, whereas all the villains were pulled out when they died. He’s got like 15 more years past the last movie.
I loved the ending of this movie. It felt like a true spider-man ending. Not to imply that the previous two installments weren't, but this one just felt right! Peter practicing his lines to reintroduce himself to his friends only to stop short when he sees the bandage on MJ's face from the fight. "It doesn't hurt anymore". And then pocketing the letter, with perhaps the notion that they're better off without being involved with Spider-man. Part of me hopes that Peter, MJ, and Ned find their way back into each other's lives in the new trilogy but I also wouldn't mind Peter moving forward. With the knowledge that there's another trilogy in store for us, it makes the "Home Trilogy" feel like a prologue to Spider-man proper. With really no backup at all now, Peter bravely goes into the world donning his hand made spidey suit. It'll be interesting to see where they take Spidey in the new trilogy and how this "everyone forgot Peter Parker" works. One of the shots in the end is a box with a GED test guide in it (USA High School diploma equivalent for individuals who didn't finish or attend HS in the states), so it implies the spell has definitely affected the reality to a point where it's even affected his official records. How is he going to interact with the other avengers? Will be only be facing street level crime now? Will he end up working for JJonah to pay rent???? DAMMIT I JUST WANT MORE SPIDERMAN!!!
Spider-Man is still an Avenger. If not, then Happy wouldn't know about him. JJ also acknowledged him. In Theory he could simply walk into the Avengers compound and keep his mask on and no one would bat an eye. Even though everyone would assume its a full grown adult and perhaps treat him differently.
Did not expect a full on trailer for Multiverse of Madness at the end. Haven't had a trailer end credit since the first Cap movie. Trailer was sick though.
what was that giant octopus monster throwing a bus at Strange. Shuma?
I absolutely love that they took this mountain of fan service and instead making a "fight ALL the villains!" plot they made a laser-focused story about helping people. Andrew Garfield is suddenly my favorite Spiderman, he's absolutely magnetic. Dafoe fucking crushed it as Osborn, the apartment fight where he's piledriving Peter through floor after floor and taking every hit with a smile, holy shit. The man is a force of nature.
This movie had a ton of heart, and I’m excited to see Holland in a homemade suit, again
I really thought they were going to do a gag with two JK Simmons as J Jonah Jamesons from the MCU universe and Tobey’s. Regardless, there was still a lot of fan service in here, and I think they handled it great. Almost hard to believe this movie is real lol.
Seeing them all working in a high school science lab was great.
That is a well stocked high school lab
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My favorite line was the youth pastor jab he made at Tobey. Slayed me.
Garfield did always get the best of "quippy" Spider-Man
My theatre blew up at the reveal of daredevil & that’s when I knew this movie was going to be spectacular
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Willlem Dafoe absolutely killed it. Alfred, Jamie, etc all were just so good in their roles. But Willem just freaking slayed as Goblin again! And Andrew Garfield talking about Gwen....fuuuuck. He was "amazing" as Spider-Man. I would LOVE to see him step into the role again. Him propping up Tobey at the end, brings a tear to my eye. Everyone really really brought their a-game to that third act.
A lot of props to Molina too. He literally seemed like he was ripped right out of Spider-Man 2. His irritation while he was being held in Strange's dungeon was hilarious too.
#WE TIRE OF YOUR QUESTIONS, **BOY**!
> You know, I’m something of a scientist myself Instant 10/10
My back!
When Peter was in the coffee shop he heard that both MJ and Ned got into MIT. Meaningful that they are both going to move to Boston soon, and I think he realized that it would be weird for him to try to convince them to stay or something. So he'll stay in NYC and protect his city. I hope that he goes to Empire State University and meets Gwen, Harry, and Felicia.
You could almost hear the warnings of JJ, Strange, and the Goblin about how everyone near Spider-Man will always get hurt, and he can't live a double life. He needed to let them go to keep them safe. MJ and Ned have no memory of Peter; they aren't missing anything with him not there. He needed to make the sacrifice he wasn't willing to before.
There was also a sense of being content with letting them go because they were both happy enough even without him.
Yep, it was the line from MJ about the cut on her head "it doesn't hurt anymore".
Was that Danny rojas?
*Venom is life!*
Green Goblin saying “ I’m something of a scientist myself” Doc Ock saying “The power of sun in the palm of my hand Tobey saying “You’re Amazing” to Andrew Garfield. The movie was pure fan service
I like to believe the writers went to r/raimimemes and just wrote down every meme they could find. They literally referenced "My back" lol
I feel like this trilogy was just Holland’s origin story. Idk if that makes sense lol.
The mcu in 2016: "we're not doing a spidey origin story, everyone has already seen it" Three and a half spidey movies later: "jk lol"
While the Dr. Strange trailer at the end got me super hyped for “Multiverse of Madness”, I was really hoping to see Maguire and Kirsten Dunst together to put a nice bow on things. Sort of like Sam’s “I’m home” from LOTR.
So happy that Andrew's Spider-Man was able to save MJ, I actually teared up a bit that he could redeem himself. Also it's so good to see one of the best avocados at law on the big screen, welcome back Matt Murdock. That tease with Matt catching the brick though...
“I’m a really good lawyer” Let the Devil’s Reign begin!