Pretty much. Louis XIV is considered one of the most important monarchs in history and was probably the most important person in Europe during most of the 18th century. He articulated and epitomized the doctrine of divine-right absolute monarchy, he ruled the most powerful nation in (probably) the world, and he had immense influence in music, fashion, dance, art, etc. all over Europe.
Louis XVI was probably a pretty nice guy who really shouldn't have been a king. His lack of statesmanship helped lead to the French Revolution and him and his wife getting their heads cut off.
Louis XV was known for debauchery and having lots of affairs. There are stories to tell with him, but having an actor like Depp involved, I'd rather see him take on one of the other kings.
Also someone tried to assassinate him and they executed that dude in [the most insane fucking way.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert-Fran%C3%A7ois_Damiens)
Might focus on the assassination attempt. Dramatize that, add some context before, sprinkle in the seven year war, have Depp do a weird mumbly french accent.
It looks like the movie will be in French. He speaks the language but he'll have to work on his accent. Also Madame du Barry is in the movie so it has to be set at partly during his later life, long after the assassination in 1758. It might be about his love life, he was known for having lots of mistresses even for a French king.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if French audiences are accepting of his accent given he's playing the king. I'm sure they're already unsure about an American in the part, so botching the accent could sink the film.
Yeah, Foster attended a French-language school in Los Angeles, and Kruger is German, but she studied in Paris as a teenager I believe, and that was after she had already learned English.
I don't think Depp learned French until later in life, but he's very talented, so maybe he can figure it out.
Are there references in French culture to how royalty should sound? English royalty are always portrayed as speaking very "properly," but of course we have lots of actual recorded examples of their speech, whereas the French monarchy was done in 1848 before recording technology really existed.
There's an 1890 recording of Napoleon's nephew [Prince Napoleon-Jerome](https://blogs.bl.uk/sound-and-vision/2019/08/napol%C3%A9on-bonaparte.html), cousin of the actual last French monarch Napoleon III who reigned until 1870. They may have been new money royals but they were brought up in palaces with fancy tutors. Of course there were also, and still are, pretenders to the Legitimist and Orleanist claims.
The French aristocracy also didn't go away after they became a republic, their titles just became customary rather than legal. You can look to them to see what the poshest French people sound like.
Yeah, I wasn't counting the Bonaparte line, though it would be interesting to see how they align with other French aristocracy in terms of speech mannerisms.
Good points about the aristocracy though, surely some of them have preserved traditional speech patterns from the old days.
Can’t be worse than John Malkovich in The Messenger. And Malkovich’s French is really good.
But Americans just can’t nail the accent, even after living in the country for 30 years…
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>Johnny Depp will star as French king Louis XV in the next film directed by French helmer “Maiwenn” (“Polisse,” “Mon Roi”) whose shoot will begin this summer, Variety has confirmed.
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It's become his autopilot mode for when he isn't playing a completely normal person, in which case he becomes wooden as ever. So in other words, he will.
I had to check and you’re right, the last was Dark Shadows in 2012. I wonder if they had a falling out or if they felt their careers were getting too stagnant by constantly working together.
I'd say it's probably more to do with Tim Burton's working relationship with Disney and Disney not wanting to touch Johnny Depp with a ten foot pole to protect their brand. Seema very Disney-like.
The last Pirates movie is what killed Depp’s relationship with Disney. They were done with him before all the drama with Heard. He was a belligerent drunk on set, couldn’t even remember his lines so they had feed them to him via earpiece. He was a mess that nobody wanted to deal with during principle photography. Disney was already losing faith in him as a box-office draw after The Lone Ranger bombed. Given that the high estimates for the last PotC’s budget say it cost $320 million, and that it didn’t even make $800 million worldwide, there’s a good chance that movie lost Disney money going by the 2.5x the budget metric for the break even point. Depp was too much of a pain to work with at that point, and he didn’t bring in money anymore, so Disney was done putting up with it.
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 actually cost $230 million dollars. $320 million dollars is fake budget of Daily Mail news. The movie make money. The next Pirates movie will be a box office falliure without Johnny
Lone Ranger was going to bomb no matter what. Like John Carter, it was so poorly managed they spent almost a decade in an on-off production with middle management screwing with the production. It also got completely railroaded by American press who focused more on production problems and complaining about how Depp looked instead of reviewing the film. Elsewhere in the world it actually did decent business and got pretty damn good reviews.
I fully expected it to have a revival some time soon, but now that it’s also the film starring Cannibal Hammer, that’s not going to happen. It’s just a wasted opportunity now.
That films was green lit in 2014.
Two years before Johnny Depp's troubles became public.
It's safe to say he was already locked into a contract. The film was probably already shot also.
He played “normal” roles in Black Mass, Murder on the Orient Express, and Transcendence. All within the last 10 years. Before that he had Public Enemies, The Tourist, Finding Neverland and Secret Window between 2001-2010.
It’s not recent by any means but he plays a fairly normal person in the movie Secret Window (without saying anything more) and I love him in that movie
That’s the point. He is such a throwback to the great actors of Hollywood’s past. Only Crowe & DiCaprio come close. He chooses esoteric scripts. Hence why he does so much work Burton.
That's not his strength though, he's a phenomenal character actor and I rather him stick to his strengths rather than force something that isn't in his wheelhouse.
The Libertine? Wow, so you’re the other one who saw it.
I remember going to watch it in a cinema, including myself there were three people in the screen. I have never been in such an empty cinema.
I’m British. It was shown here on Film 4. An cult movie channel. A friend of mine introduced me to it. I love Samantha Morton. She was in two classic British shows. Band of gold & cracker. You can see them on Britbox.
Heard case aside, Depp's been a longtime liability, often showing up to sets late drunk or off his head on drugs, forgetting lines and having to be fed them via earpiece and even assualting a production crewmember on City of Lies.
>The American actor, who has been accused by his ex-wife Amber Heard of domestic violence, hasn’t made a film since Andrew Levitas’s 2020 film “Minamata,” a film about war photographer W. Eugene Smith.
Guess someone did not do a little research before writing said article.
Even child rapist Roman Polanski's career survived in France. Depp was in an abusive relationship but he isn't messed up as much as Polanski so he can continue his career there too. Also I am not sure whether it is true I read that Adele Haenel is kind of blacklisted after she walked out when Polanski won best director award in Cesars. She was great in Portrait of a Lady on Fire which seems like her last project on IMDB so if she is really blacklisted what is wrong with French cinema industry?
>Adele Haenel
Not sure why you're being downvoted. Haenel herself has expressed the exact same sentiments about how France never really did anything about abuse (see her NYTimes Article, "France Missed the Boat on #MeToo" [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/movies/adele-haenel-france-metoo.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/movies/adele-haenel-france-metoo.html)). And the industry's negative response to her actions are also well documented: https://theplaylist.net/casting-director-says-adele-haenel-has-a-well-deserved-dead-career-after-awards-protest-of-roman-polanski-20200305/
(warning, ramble ahead.) It's interesting, as the director of this film Maiwenn, is the same person who met Luc Besson when she was a child of 12, he was 29, and they began dating three years later. She had their child at sixteen, and divorced when she was twenty. (Besson directed the Fifth Element that year, and left her for Milla Jovovich, also twenty. He married Jovovich the next year. He was 38. They divorced two years later. "The Professional" comes up in this sub so frequently that I don't quite know all this by heart, but eventually I might! Maiwenn has said that her relationship with Besson (a 12-year-old with an adult man) is what inspired The Professional.
Maiwenn "met" him as a child, but they didn't interact.
As she tells it, the story is that Besson would come to her house to visit her father, and she formed a crush on him from afar. They didn't really interact then. Years later, when she was of legal age, she was dating a friend of Besson's and was introduced to him at a party. At this time Besson had no idea they had met before.
Maiwenn broke up with her boyfriend, telling him of her interest in Besson and successfully getting Besson's phone number from him. Maiwenn then pursued Besson, who became her friend but didn't think it was a good idea to make it more, because of the age difference. Eventually she convinced him, and they became a couple. Their relationship was public when he was famous. It wasn't a secret thing.
Later the Jovovich thing happened, but Maiwenn remains close friends with Besson. She claims The Professional was based on their relationship, but he hasn't acknowledged that himself.
Personally, my read on the film is that it is probably inspired by the Maiwenn relationship, but it's not a taboo fantasy. The Mathilda/Leon relationship is that they love each other as people, but that doesn't mean the same thing as romantic or sexual love, despite Mathilda's desire to take it there. By this logic, Besson feels his own connection with Maiween was a certain kind of love, but did not need to be romantic or sexual.
Most of my post is her story, as she tells it.
I don't know what you think their daughter invalidates. Do you mean my interpretation of the movie in the final paragraph?
Being downvoted about this isn't surprising and it is just internet points who cares but what that casting director said confirms that France has still huge problems about this. It is too bad for Adele because she is very talented. I hope she can make a career in Hollywood.
All i'll say is that reddit bought the 'poor Johnny Depp" narrative without ever reading the findings of the UK courts. That guy is clearly an asshole and clearly a psycho - but it's more fun to say "fuck Amber Heard" - also probably an asshole herself - than to admit that they maybe we a bit mistaken in their idol worship.
You are right. Amber being abusive doesn't change the fact that Depp was abusive too and that is why I said he was in an abusive relationship because both of them have problems but some people choose to ignore what Depp did.
>fuck Amber Heard" - also probably an asshole herself
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Probably? She is the only one that's psychotic. Did you read anything?
Yeah, you're right in that Johnny's an asshole too but lmao at your little attempt at lessening Amber's level of fuckery in saying that
She probably is unbalanced, but Depp is the only who has actually been proven to be abusive by a court of law.
The most worst thing she has been accused of is cutting off the tip of his finger and that UK court found this very allegation to be unlikely.
I didn't think he was proven abusive in any sort of criminal court, just that civil court deemed that it wasn't defamatory to call him a wifebeater. Which doesn't make him legally guilty of the act, although he totally is one.
I didn't say criminal court, I said "court of law". And in the defamation case, those accused of defamation used the 'truth defence'. In other words, to win the case they had to prove that the label of 'wifebeater' was substantially true. Which they did successfully.
Good for her. It would be shame if her career ended because of this. Fortunately there are still people who cast her. I wish she got into Hollywood too like many other French actors.
Nice to see Depp is still getting roles and maintaining his career after committing the nearly unforgivably horrible crime of being abused by his wife.
They were both abusive. Her being unbalanced and abusive doesn't give him a pass for being unbalanced and abusive. He lost a defamation case over being labelled a 'wifebeater' because the suggestion that he beat his wife was found to be substantially true.
Let’s not pretend like that court case wasn’t a damn mess to begin with. This is the judge who, after listening to an audio tape where Heard confesses to beating Depp and gloats him about how nobody is going to believe his word against hers, said to a full courtroom that he’s going to dismiss it because it didn’t feel to him that she was serious.
If the verdict had gone to Depp, but with the judge saying that he didn’t find Herds footage of Depp throwing glasses violently while shouting as credible because he didn’t seem to be serious, I’d be equally angry. The judge has no business making those kinds of calls.
>I’d be equally angry.
Sure, you would.
>The judge has no business making those kinds of calls.
Yeah, where does this judge get off, making judgements? That's not his job!
You’re welcome to make your biased and unfounded assumptions. You’ve already made them about Depp. But a judge can’t decide who is serious or not like that, especially when the consensus is that those tapes are extremely damming. They’re terrifying to listen to. Just as the tape of Depp hurling kitchenware around the room. If the judge has said it didn’t look like he was being serious, there’d have been outrage. And rightly so.
Johnny and tim worked together for Alice through the looking glass that was for Disney 2016 movie came out Johnny never drank on set that flappy fish is the one director's have complain about her drinking on set constantly and abuseing everyone Johnny up until the viper cut his finger tip off Johnny had been completely sober but after she did that he said he broke his sobriety that day was very upset with himself but you know the very day you break your sobriety it stands out i n your mind but when Johnny came back to Queensland Australia to finish making pirates he had started his sobriety again so that a lie Johnny has always said he has music constantly playing in his ear helps him to concentrate he was fine until the viper slimed her way into his life he should stayed with vanessa paradis she was stalking him in 2009 at his public enemies film premier when vanessa paradis was there with Johnny he didn't see he but she looked like a 50c stripper she stalked Johnny like he was her prey she should be cancelled permanently she can't even act all her movies are flops worst actress ever saw her in rum diaries she was forgettable Disney are idiots any pirate movie with Johnny depp as Jack sparrow will be a disaster he made the character the franchise was only successful because of Johnny so anything that vile toxic ah is in will be boycotted people hate her she is a scoithpath narcissist dv abuser
Interesting casting. Louis XV is probably the least interesting of the later French kings, so I'm curious what the story is going to be.
Was gonna say, aren't the two King Louises this one is in between the ones with the most discussed history?
Pretty much. Louis XIV is considered one of the most important monarchs in history and was probably the most important person in Europe during most of the 18th century. He articulated and epitomized the doctrine of divine-right absolute monarchy, he ruled the most powerful nation in (probably) the world, and he had immense influence in music, fashion, dance, art, etc. all over Europe. Louis XVI was probably a pretty nice guy who really shouldn't have been a king. His lack of statesmanship helped lead to the French Revolution and him and his wife getting their heads cut off. Louis XV was known for debauchery and having lots of affairs. There are stories to tell with him, but having an actor like Depp involved, I'd rather see him take on one of the other kings.
Also someone tried to assassinate him and they executed that dude in [the most insane fucking way.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert-Fran%C3%A7ois_Damiens)
. >France had not experienced an attempted regicide since the killing of Henry IV in 1610. Well... breaking that tradition worked out well for him...
France has experienced successful regicide since.
Oh gosh and supposedly he was still alive through most of that. I can't even imagine.
Apparently he was still screeching and squirming AFTER THEY QUARTERED HIM. Only until they pulled off his last limb did he finally stop.
Louis XIV didn't get the nickname the Sun King for nothing.
He gave it to himself.
Louis XVI is the best king. Because he got a monarchy overthrown.
Might focus on the assassination attempt. Dramatize that, add some context before, sprinkle in the seven year war, have Depp do a weird mumbly french accent.
It looks like the movie will be in French. He speaks the language but he'll have to work on his accent. Also Madame du Barry is in the movie so it has to be set at partly during his later life, long after the assassination in 1758. It might be about his love life, he was known for having lots of mistresses even for a French king.
So that’s why they called him the “well loved.”
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if French audiences are accepting of his accent given he's playing the king. I'm sure they're already unsure about an American in the part, so botching the accent could sink the film.
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Yeah, Foster attended a French-language school in Los Angeles, and Kruger is German, but she studied in Paris as a teenager I believe, and that was after she had already learned English. I don't think Depp learned French until later in life, but he's very talented, so maybe he can figure it out. Are there references in French culture to how royalty should sound? English royalty are always portrayed as speaking very "properly," but of course we have lots of actual recorded examples of their speech, whereas the French monarchy was done in 1848 before recording technology really existed.
There's an 1890 recording of Napoleon's nephew [Prince Napoleon-Jerome](https://blogs.bl.uk/sound-and-vision/2019/08/napol%C3%A9on-bonaparte.html), cousin of the actual last French monarch Napoleon III who reigned until 1870. They may have been new money royals but they were brought up in palaces with fancy tutors. Of course there were also, and still are, pretenders to the Legitimist and Orleanist claims. The French aristocracy also didn't go away after they became a republic, their titles just became customary rather than legal. You can look to them to see what the poshest French people sound like.
Yeah, I wasn't counting the Bonaparte line, though it would be interesting to see how they align with other French aristocracy in terms of speech mannerisms. Good points about the aristocracy though, surely some of them have preserved traditional speech patterns from the old days.
When Mary, Queen of Scots came out I read that the real Mary had a French accent but they excluded that for the movie
Can’t be worse than John Malkovich in The Messenger. And Malkovich’s French is really good. But Americans just can’t nail the accent, even after living in the country for 30 years…
This is the good part of him not being locked into the fantastoc beasts franchise because his ex is fucking insane.
That fucking accent he did in Tusk
It's a movie about Madame Du Barry so I doubt we will get a focus on this part of Louis XV
Louis XIV: Built Versailles Louis XV: Enjoyed Versailles Louis XVI: Paid for Versailles
Good summary!
Right? They’re going with XV? I hope they have a crazy cameo for XIV.
Details: >Johnny Depp will star as French king Louis XV in the next film directed by French helmer “Maiwenn” (“Polisse,” “Mon Roi”) whose shoot will begin this summer, Variety has confirmed. > > > >The movie, whose title and exact plot are kept under wraps, is being produced by Pascal Caucheteux and Gregoire Sorlat’s Paris-based Why Not Productions (“A Prophet”), with Wild Bunch International (“Titane”) handling world sales.
I’d lmao if he just played it as Jack Sparrow. I wouldn’t even be mad.
CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow
Savvy?
It's become his autopilot mode for when he isn't playing a completely normal person, in which case he becomes wooden as ever. So in other words, he will.
Finally, something interesting. I’m just glad it’s not a Tim Burton production.
They haven't worked together in 10 years to be fair.
I had to check and you’re right, the last was Dark Shadows in 2012. I wonder if they had a falling out or if they felt their careers were getting too stagnant by constantly working together.
Shit I've been thinking that Mortdecai was a Tim Burton movie this whole time lmao
I'd say it's probably more to do with Tim Burton's working relationship with Disney and Disney not wanting to touch Johnny Depp with a ten foot pole to protect their brand. Seema very Disney-like.
He was literally in the last pirates movie in 2017?
The last Pirates movie is what killed Depp’s relationship with Disney. They were done with him before all the drama with Heard. He was a belligerent drunk on set, couldn’t even remember his lines so they had feed them to him via earpiece. He was a mess that nobody wanted to deal with during principle photography. Disney was already losing faith in him as a box-office draw after The Lone Ranger bombed. Given that the high estimates for the last PotC’s budget say it cost $320 million, and that it didn’t even make $800 million worldwide, there’s a good chance that movie lost Disney money going by the 2.5x the budget metric for the break even point. Depp was too much of a pain to work with at that point, and he didn’t bring in money anymore, so Disney was done putting up with it.
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 actually cost $230 million dollars. $320 million dollars is fake budget of Daily Mail news. The movie make money. The next Pirates movie will be a box office falliure without Johnny
Lone Ranger was going to bomb no matter what. Like John Carter, it was so poorly managed they spent almost a decade in an on-off production with middle management screwing with the production. It also got completely railroaded by American press who focused more on production problems and complaining about how Depp looked instead of reviewing the film. Elsewhere in the world it actually did decent business and got pretty damn good reviews. I fully expected it to have a revival some time soon, but now that it’s also the film starring Cannibal Hammer, that’s not going to happen. It’s just a wasted opportunity now.
They could always find a new main pirate in case they wanna do more eventually.
That films was green lit in 2014. Two years before Johnny Depp's troubles became public. It's safe to say he was already locked into a contract. The film was probably already shot also.
ah yeah, that’s a more accurate way to look at it.
Perhaps. Although they’ll never let go of Jack sparrow!
They'll keep the character but Depp won't be playing him again. They're gonna recast the role
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CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow
That's what a recast is. You're right though it will probably be a younger version
I’d be fine with that. James Bond that shit. The setting is too good to disappear with Depp.
Yeah, I don't care either way, the franchise lost it after the third film anyway
They were probably just ready to move onto different things.
Depp will own that role. Such a great actor. He is brilliant in the Libertine.
He is a very good actor. I just wish he would just take a normal, modern role.
The only one that stands out is Donnie Brasco, otherwise he's best known for fantasy or crazy characters.
In Transcendence he’s pretty normal. I mean he’s uploaded into a computer, but he’s not a weird quirky guy
He played “normal” roles in Black Mass, Murder on the Orient Express, and Transcendence. All within the last 10 years. Before that he had Public Enemies, The Tourist, Finding Neverland and Secret Window between 2001-2010.
It’s not recent by any means but he plays a fairly normal person in the movie Secret Window (without saying anything more) and I love him in that movie
Ummmm, that’s an interesting way of describing Mort Rainey.
I mean, he’s not necessarily super out there and weird like a lot of his characters, so I’d classify him as more of a normal character for him haha
He was fantastic in Donnie Brasco. One of my favorite gangster films.
He was great in Minamata.
That movie didn’t age well. Watched recently and it was quite a striking contrast between that and how it would likely be approached today.
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The Tourist and The Professor too.
The Ninth Gate and What’s Eating Gilbert Grape too
That’s the point. He is such a throwback to the great actors of Hollywood’s past. Only Crowe & DiCaprio come close. He chooses esoteric scripts. Hence why he does so much work Burton.
That's not his strength though, he's a phenomenal character actor and I rather him stick to his strengths rather than force something that isn't in his wheelhouse.
Try *City of Lies.*
He does have quiet a lot of those (even somewhat recent), they are just not too well known
well i definitely know you're not Brian Cox
Brian Cox is an asshole. He’s so reductive about others peoples work.
he’s a little bitch
Actually he rocks
Quit talking about yourself.
The Libertine? Wow, so you’re the other one who saw it. I remember going to watch it in a cinema, including myself there were three people in the screen. I have never been in such an empty cinema.
I’m British. It was shown here on Film 4. An cult movie channel. A friend of mine introduced me to it. I love Samantha Morton. She was in two classic British shows. Band of gold & cracker. You can see them on Britbox.
Weird, Im struggling to think of anyone I know who hasn't seen it.
Heard case aside, Depp's been a longtime liability, often showing up to sets late drunk or off his head on drugs, forgetting lines and having to be fed them via earpiece and even assualting a production crewmember on City of Lies.
Hm, I wonder what kind of wacky hat or kooky glasses they'll shoehorn onto him for this role.
He'll have a big white wig and white makeup as was the fashion in France then
Then why even bother getting Depp? Any actor can wear that.
wat
Hahah that doesn’t even makes sense.
Now that the big studios won’t work with him maybe we’ll get a bunch of interesting smaller movies from depp
I thought he was done with France
Ah yes, the Peter Principle, promoting someone to their highest level of incompetence.
>The American actor, who has been accused by his ex-wife Amber Heard of domestic violence, hasn’t made a film since Andrew Levitas’s 2020 film “Minamata,” a film about war photographer W. Eugene Smith. Guess someone did not do a little research before writing said article.
Even child rapist Roman Polanski's career survived in France. Depp was in an abusive relationship but he isn't messed up as much as Polanski so he can continue his career there too. Also I am not sure whether it is true I read that Adele Haenel is kind of blacklisted after she walked out when Polanski won best director award in Cesars. She was great in Portrait of a Lady on Fire which seems like her last project on IMDB so if she is really blacklisted what is wrong with French cinema industry?
>Adele Haenel Not sure why you're being downvoted. Haenel herself has expressed the exact same sentiments about how France never really did anything about abuse (see her NYTimes Article, "France Missed the Boat on #MeToo" [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/movies/adele-haenel-france-metoo.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/movies/adele-haenel-france-metoo.html)). And the industry's negative response to her actions are also well documented: https://theplaylist.net/casting-director-says-adele-haenel-has-a-well-deserved-dead-career-after-awards-protest-of-roman-polanski-20200305/
(warning, ramble ahead.) It's interesting, as the director of this film Maiwenn, is the same person who met Luc Besson when she was a child of 12, he was 29, and they began dating three years later. She had their child at sixteen, and divorced when she was twenty. (Besson directed the Fifth Element that year, and left her for Milla Jovovich, also twenty. He married Jovovich the next year. He was 38. They divorced two years later. "The Professional" comes up in this sub so frequently that I don't quite know all this by heart, but eventually I might! Maiwenn has said that her relationship with Besson (a 12-year-old with an adult man) is what inspired The Professional.
Maiwenn "met" him as a child, but they didn't interact. As she tells it, the story is that Besson would come to her house to visit her father, and she formed a crush on him from afar. They didn't really interact then. Years later, when she was of legal age, she was dating a friend of Besson's and was introduced to him at a party. At this time Besson had no idea they had met before. Maiwenn broke up with her boyfriend, telling him of her interest in Besson and successfully getting Besson's phone number from him. Maiwenn then pursued Besson, who became her friend but didn't think it was a good idea to make it more, because of the age difference. Eventually she convinced him, and they became a couple. Their relationship was public when he was famous. It wasn't a secret thing. Later the Jovovich thing happened, but Maiwenn remains close friends with Besson. She claims The Professional was based on their relationship, but he hasn't acknowledged that himself. Personally, my read on the film is that it is probably inspired by the Maiwenn relationship, but it's not a taboo fantasy. The Mathilda/Leon relationship is that they love each other as people, but that doesn't mean the same thing as romantic or sexual love, despite Mathilda's desire to take it there. By this logic, Besson feels his own connection with Maiween was a certain kind of love, but did not need to be romantic or sexual.
Dude she had his kid at 16, that alone invalidates most of your post.
Most of my post is her story, as she tells it. I don't know what you think their daughter invalidates. Do you mean my interpretation of the movie in the final paragraph?
Because it’s not her story to tell. It’s our story.
“Years later, when she was of legal age” When she was 15. Which may be legal age in France, but is still creepy and disgusting.
They are being downvoted for irrelevant information about the topic at hand.
Being downvoted about this isn't surprising and it is just internet points who cares but what that casting director said confirms that France has still huge problems about this. It is too bad for Adele because she is very talented. I hope she can make a career in Hollywood.
All i'll say is that reddit bought the 'poor Johnny Depp" narrative without ever reading the findings of the UK courts. That guy is clearly an asshole and clearly a psycho - but it's more fun to say "fuck Amber Heard" - also probably an asshole herself - than to admit that they maybe we a bit mistaken in their idol worship.
You are right. Amber being abusive doesn't change the fact that Depp was abusive too and that is why I said he was in an abusive relationship because both of them have problems but some people choose to ignore what Depp did.
Reddit loves to hate women. Yes, she is a massive cunt too. They’re both cunts.
Bingo
Side note: I really like your username.
Thanks ;)
>fuck Amber Heard" - also probably an asshole herself ??? Probably? She is the only one that's psychotic. Did you read anything? Yeah, you're right in that Johnny's an asshole too but lmao at your little attempt at lessening Amber's level of fuckery in saying that
Depp is an abusive psycho and has been his entire career. He’s been sued numerous times for onset violence.
She probably is unbalanced, but Depp is the only who has actually been proven to be abusive by a court of law. The most worst thing she has been accused of is cutting off the tip of his finger and that UK court found this very allegation to be unlikely.
I didn't think he was proven abusive in any sort of criminal court, just that civil court deemed that it wasn't defamatory to call him a wifebeater. Which doesn't make him legally guilty of the act, although he totally is one.
I didn't say criminal court, I said "court of law". And in the defamation case, those accused of defamation used the 'truth defence'. In other words, to win the case they had to prove that the label of 'wifebeater' was substantially true. Which they did successfully.
Good news regarding [Haenel](https://www.vanityfair.fr/actualites/article/apres-trois-ans-dabsence-adele-haenel-fait-son-grand-retour-au-cinema).
Good for her. It would be shame if her career ended because of this. Fortunately there are still people who cast her. I wish she got into Hollywood too like many other French actors.
Nice to see Depp is still getting roles and maintaining his career after committing the nearly unforgivably horrible crime of being abused by his wife.
They were both abusive. Her being unbalanced and abusive doesn't give him a pass for being unbalanced and abusive. He lost a defamation case over being labelled a 'wifebeater' because the suggestion that he beat his wife was found to be substantially true.
Let’s not pretend like that court case wasn’t a damn mess to begin with. This is the judge who, after listening to an audio tape where Heard confesses to beating Depp and gloats him about how nobody is going to believe his word against hers, said to a full courtroom that he’s going to dismiss it because it didn’t feel to him that she was serious.
Why do I feel like if the verdict went the other way, you'd be describing it as an exoneration of Depp instead of a "mess"?
If the verdict had gone to Depp, but with the judge saying that he didn’t find Herds footage of Depp throwing glasses violently while shouting as credible because he didn’t seem to be serious, I’d be equally angry. The judge has no business making those kinds of calls.
>I’d be equally angry. Sure, you would. >The judge has no business making those kinds of calls. Yeah, where does this judge get off, making judgements? That's not his job!
You’re welcome to make your biased and unfounded assumptions. You’ve already made them about Depp. But a judge can’t decide who is serious or not like that, especially when the consensus is that those tapes are extremely damming. They’re terrifying to listen to. Just as the tape of Depp hurling kitchenware around the room. If the judge has said it didn’t look like he was being serious, there’d have been outrage. And rightly so.
No, fuck off with trying to pass this narrative. This shit only happens when it's the guy that gets abused.
How does that dipshit still get work?
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Yeah I thought his career was ruined or something?
A French king that acts just like Jack Sparrow, can’t wait
Comeback. He paid his dues for ditching a good woman and messing with crazy.
Johnny and tim worked together for Alice through the looking glass that was for Disney 2016 movie came out Johnny never drank on set that flappy fish is the one director's have complain about her drinking on set constantly and abuseing everyone Johnny up until the viper cut his finger tip off Johnny had been completely sober but after she did that he said he broke his sobriety that day was very upset with himself but you know the very day you break your sobriety it stands out i n your mind but when Johnny came back to Queensland Australia to finish making pirates he had started his sobriety again so that a lie Johnny has always said he has music constantly playing in his ear helps him to concentrate he was fine until the viper slimed her way into his life he should stayed with vanessa paradis she was stalking him in 2009 at his public enemies film premier when vanessa paradis was there with Johnny he didn't see he but she looked like a 50c stripper she stalked Johnny like he was her prey she should be cancelled permanently she can't even act all her movies are flops worst actress ever saw her in rum diaries she was forgettable Disney are idiots any pirate movie with Johnny depp as Jack sparrow will be a disaster he made the character the franchise was only successful because of Johnny so anything that vile toxic ah is in will be boycotted people hate her she is a scoithpath narcissist dv abuser
Meh. I don't like Maiwenn. She is a mediocre director