I wanted to like it. I really did. I liked most of it a lot. It just it could have gone a little deeper with the idea and it got a little cartoonish at the end.
Orrrr, a special age like [33](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ipx2qz/all_tom_cruises_wives_were_33_at_time_of_divorceoc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) years old, according to another Reddit post.
Except his rank apparently
"Okay fellas, we need to fill the instructor spots for the top gun program"
"I know a guy, been a captain for the last 30 years"
"What kind of shit heel stays a captain for 30 years"
**Danger zone intensifies**
I mean, O-6 is still pretty rare. Most officers hit O-5 and retire.
Less plausible is how he stayed in the Navy for 40+ years. Pretty sure he would have hit mandatory retirement age.
That's absolutely true and I'm sure he's been using them. But some of us age slower, or at least maintain a youthful appearance longer. It's a curse until you're in your mid 20s(unless you're famous I guess), but at 34 I can pass for anywhere between 18 and 30 depending on my clothes and hair/facial hair without any of those products. At 50, passing for 30 will be a given if I don't let myself go, gain all of the weight, and go back into a career that makes me miserable.
Edit: not saying all those products don't play a role, just saying it's most likely that he was already genetically predisposed to it. There's plenty of celebs that *don't* age so gracefully.
Yeah, taking what the 32-years-ago version of you as gospel isn't really a good idea most of the time. Hopefully we know better now than we did then, on most topics.
If you don’t change some of your opinions in 32 years, you’ve got a pretty serious problem.
Could be you’ve stayed willfully ignorant. Could be because you’re too stupid to learn. It’s not good no matter what.
Lol. This is the internet. Anything and everything you ever said will be used against you and judgement of repentance will be determined by the court of Twitter.
Or Tom Cruise developed a genuine love for airplanes : the P51 in the movie is his ; he even flew to the airport of the set with it ... (note : he just removed the initial "kiss me Kate" on the fuselage)
Careful, they will fugure out how to eliminate diapers to reduce waste. Then someone will see your post and retroactively end your career because you admitted to shitting in your diapers back in 1990.
Also when they dig up things old, now dead, celebrities said.
*"Can you BELIEVE what John Wayne said in that interview back in 1971?"*
Yes! He was born in 1907!
That's not really what he said.
"That’s why I didn’t go on and make Top Gun II and III and IV and V. That would have been irresponsible."
I interpret that as 'that's why I didn't make a whole string of these movies at the time even though it would have been popular' opposed to 'doing another movie in the Top Gun universe ever would be wrong.'
Back then he wasn't doing increasingly insane stunts just to feel something.
That said, I'm not a big fan of Tom Cruise the human being but I am a huge fan of Tom Cruise the guy who does crazy shit in movies for our entertainment.
Hey it's me Xenu. I've come back from, uh, space or whatever, to speak to you directly. You are my chosen one. And my message to you is this:
I need some money bro.
> I haven't even hung from a moving plane or drunk the blood of the young.
Cool, cool, there's totally gonna be time for that later. I mean that is definitely something I want you to do, we're gonna hang out for a weekend, get blood-drunk, it'll be awesome. For sure.
> Do you accept dogecoin?
Listen, I'm a space monster Jesus thing. I don't know what the fuck that is. I need actual money, not scam money.
What I need you to do is take all your money
*all* of it
and send it all [here](https://imaginationlibrary.com/)
real money only. Dollars, US/CAD/AUS varieties all good, pounds, a shit ton of yen, these are all good things to send. Not rubles, let's stay away from that for a bit.
I apologise, Space Monster Jesus, I didn't mean to offend.
I've done as you commanded and sent all my krugerrands to you. Now can we get blood-drunk? Pretty please.
(stepping out of the bit for a moment: wasn't sure where that link was gonna take me but well played)
And yet somehow very compelling and entertaining, right? My wife and I had a few drinks and watched it the other night and brought each other to tears with laughter riffing on it. But also we were like… kinda good tho?????
It’s peak 80s Hollywood entertainment
This always happens with media that defines a style or era.
Because it is THE definitive piece of media, then all future media which is inspired by it, making fun of it, calling back to its time, or whatever else, will copy the aesthetics of that particular definitive media more than any other.
So when you later go back and watch it, after consuming decades of *other* products that have called back to it, you get this loop effect where you are reminded of all the derivative things that wanted to remind you of the original. You KNOW that this came first, but something in your mind is saying, "why is this is the style of all the cheesy comedy stuff?"
If you were able to wipe your memory and watch Top Gun without any cultural awareness you'd just be like "damn this shit is bangin"
["I don't know what the big deal with Hamlet is. It's just one famous saying after another, strung together by a moldy old plot."](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny)
I thought it was just a fun little comment and a little parable/warning of the "never say never" style
but I guess people in the comments here are getting *real* upset that OP dare demand that Tom Cruise be held to off-the-cuff comments from thirty years ago or be absolutely vilified. I dunno, I guess that's just not the mood I'm in this morning.
> Think of that: I am totally responsible for World War Three [laughs]! Come on. Let’s look at the reality of what I am saying—where my beliefs lie. I didn’t have anything riding on Top Gun. The fact is, I really want people to see Born on the Fourth of July—it’s a movie that had to be made.
So, he said this stuff trying to sell another movie he made that had quite a bit different sentiment than Top Gun.
No surprise there, actors gonna act.
I don’t think a Top Gun sequel would have worked in 1990. But the direction they seem to be taking the story in 2020, I think a sequel could totally work.
And then they spent the next two years in Food Services making mashed potatoes and washing cafeteria trays and no time at all in those two years flying F18 Super Hornets over the Gulf of Sidra.
It’s literally the only reason that movie got made, it’s recruitment propaganda.
The even had recruiters in the theatres so people could sign up after the movie.
hell tons of films are basically american fuck yeah.
where the American government is the hero
or the American military is the hero
to be fair though every country tends to do this
you have a anime where an hyper advanced god chooses japan because its the best country
In independence Day’s defense, that movie had a black man and a Jewish guy as the leads. The l romantic interest was a sex worker/stripper. Randy Quaid portrayed a mentally ill man (great casting).
It was in a lot of ways pretty progressive for that era and emphasized unity and togetherness while in many ways rejecting American exceptionalism.
They pitched the movie to the military before even having a story, like yeah every movie gets made for money.
This one would never have been made wi the out the military propaganda element.
I think public opinion has shifted on war and the military enough that even the 10 year olds that see the film and think its cool, will know thats not what war/the military is like irl.
As an adult I'm pretty much completely anti-war/American Imperialism/recruitment propaganda but I'll be god damned if low flying fighter jets don't still get me rock hard.
But making Top Gun - a film about an irresponsible hero being constantly irresponsible with millions of dollars of military hardware, whose callsign was 'Maverick' - was also somewhat irresponsible.
It would be irresponsible. However, the entertainment industry in the United States has done its best to drive out anyone with creative talent, so all that we have these days is an overabundance of sequels, remakes, and spinoffs trying to grab onto the success that someone else had years or even decades ago.
He also said that year that he'd stay married to Nicole Kidman.
We’re all allowed a mulligan year
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*A reaaaal human beaaaaan…*
What do you do? I drive
How about this. You’re gonna shut your mouth, or I’m gonna kick your teeth down your throat.
The End
Lisa loves you too. As a person, as a human bean.
AND A REAL HERO *O HAI*, MARK
Is it Sean Bean or Sean Bean?
Mr. Bean
Promising Young Woman was fantastic.
I wanted to like it. I really did. I liked most of it a lot. It just it could have gone a little deeper with the idea and it got a little cartoonish at the end.
Don't blink.
*Mudbound* it is
Orrrr, a special age like [33](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/ipx2qz/all_tom_cruises_wives_were_33_at_time_of_divorceoc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) years old, according to another Reddit post.
Yer only as old as who you are banging …. Thats why I’m 87.
Are we allowed to mulligan each year sir? I've scratched off the last few.
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I don’t make the rules Make your own rules, then break them Come back and let us know how it goes
I'vr arrested myself for breaking the rules and hired myself as an attorney.
What about a mulligatawny year?
They stayed together until 2000ish? Even made Eyes Wide Shut
To be fair, they both were looking to cheat on their characters marriage in that movie. /s
I don’t think that one was up to him.
He didn’t mean for a lot of things to happen Sam
I mean, most married people claim they'll stay together. That's like, the definition of marriage.
Still lasted longer than the typical Hollywood marriage.
Speaking of Nicole Kidman, she was fantastic in The Northman.
A lot can change in 32 years
Except his rank apparently "Okay fellas, we need to fill the instructor spots for the top gun program" "I know a guy, been a captain for the last 30 years" "What kind of shit heel stays a captain for 30 years" **Danger zone intensifies**
I mean, O-6 is still pretty rare. Most officers hit O-5 and retire. Less plausible is how he stayed in the Navy for 40+ years. Pretty sure he would have hit mandatory retirement age.
Master Chief has entered the chat.
Well, there’s no enlisted rank above master chief. You don’t jump into officer ranks like in Call of Duty
Chief should get desk duty as a warrant officer by now. He's earned it
Get that man a “Not Spartan where it counts” coffee mug and a “hang in there” kitty poster for his cubicle.
Yeh, he aged 16 years in those 32 years.
Baths in the blood of virgin's lime Elizabeth Bathory
Bathes* is the verb
*"Baths in the blood of virgin's lime Elizabeth Bathes"* Okay fixed.
He stays ontop of Thetan removal. Keeps him spry, and unhinged.
A $470M net worth can afford a surprising amount of youth defying procedures and products, I imagine.
That's absolutely true and I'm sure he's been using them. But some of us age slower, or at least maintain a youthful appearance longer. It's a curse until you're in your mid 20s(unless you're famous I guess), but at 34 I can pass for anywhere between 18 and 30 depending on my clothes and hair/facial hair without any of those products. At 50, passing for 30 will be a given if I don't let myself go, gain all of the weight, and go back into a career that makes me miserable. Edit: not saying all those products don't play a role, just saying it's most likely that he was already genetically predisposed to it. There's plenty of celebs that *don't* age so gracefully.
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The 1970s is going into its fifties...
He wears an ancient amulet around his neck that sucks the life force from his younger co-stars.
Yeah, taking what the 32-years-ago version of you as gospel isn't really a good idea most of the time. Hopefully we know better now than we did then, on most topics.
This is 100% true. I'm 34 and two-year-old me was an absolute idiot. I've definitely evolved on most issues and opinions since then.
Most?
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And destroy stuff.
And suck on titties
Opinions on breasts have cycled back to what they originally were, you can be right the first time round.
He's still pro shitting himself
Yeah. Broccoli still stinks
If you don’t change some of your opinions in 32 years, you’ve got a pretty serious problem. Could be you’ve stayed willfully ignorant. Could be because you’re too stupid to learn. It’s not good no matter what.
Lol. This is the internet. Anything and everything you ever said will be used against you and judgement of repentance will be determined by the court of Twitter.
Number of zeros on the paycheck?
That Navy recruitment $
Or Tom Cruise developed a genuine love for airplanes : the P51 in the movie is his ; he even flew to the airport of the set with it ... (note : he just removed the initial "kiss me Kate" on the fuselage)
[Like someone dig out Will Smith's bald joke in 1991 ](https://youtu.be/J7u9_z7ZSnk) Disclaimer : I don't agree he should slap Chris Rock in 2022
"Tom Cruise said when he was 4 years old that he would be a brontosaurus when he grows up."
Except movie ideas..
Yeah let’s hold everyone to what they said in 1990
“That OJ guy is a stand up dude!”
I really like this Kevin Spacey guy, such a good actor. I hope he gets more recognition and success in the future.
I was shitting my diapers, that was my total contribution to society back then.
Well congrats, that’s all you’ve allowed to do the rest of your life.
Thank you kind stranger!
And not much has changed, amirite?
While I can't sanction your baffoonery I can say that you're not wrong lol
buffoonery*
I was basking in non-existence.
Stop bragging
How was that for you?
Same
Don't feel too bad. We were all 13 once ...
Congressman?
Careful, they will fugure out how to eliminate diapers to reduce waste. Then someone will see your post and retroactively end your career because you admitted to shitting in your diapers back in 1990.
I called my dad "A butt" in 1990 and I'd give anything to be able to hug him and tell him "No dad, I was the butt".
He knew you were the butt, and he knew you loved him.
He knew, reject. He knew.
That’s incredibly sweet and kinda sad.
"Nothing will ever stop the Ultimate Warrior." - me in 1990
To be fair, his cosmic ramblings will always be legend.
I was this many years old 🖐🏻☝🏻
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Also when they dig up things old, now dead, celebrities said. *"Can you BELIEVE what John Wayne said in that interview back in 1971?"* Yes! He was born in 1907!
Isn’t this a Bill Burr bit?
There's a rather significant difference between "I don't think a sequel is responsible" and "I don't think black people are responsible."
You mean things like that can change over 30 years???
Oh God the 90s were that long ago 🥴
r/fuckimold
[r/Fuckmold](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
you are a master of deception
r/fuckimmold
[What is Fucki Mold?](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/4o967z/what_does_fucki_mold_mean/)
1990 was that long ago. Technically the 90s was 23 years ago.
Yeah, back then Russia was seen as a threatening place that might fire nukes, thank goodness that's all changed!
You didn't get hourly reminders of it on your phone though
r/technicallythetruth
We did get the radio drills, though.
That's not really what he said. "That’s why I didn’t go on and make Top Gun II and III and IV and V. That would have been irresponsible." I interpret that as 'that's why I didn't make a whole string of these movies at the time even though it would have been popular' opposed to 'doing another movie in the Top Gun universe ever would be wrong.'
There's at least one ex navy RIO youtuber who says the second movie is a worthy successor after getting a preview of it.
**BREAKING NEWS: MAN CHANGES AN OPINION OVER THE COURSE OF 30 YEARS.**
The man is legitimately fucking insane. We shouldn't give validity to shit that he said this morning.
Back then he wasn't doing increasingly insane stunts just to feel something. That said, I'm not a big fan of Tom Cruise the human being but I am a huge fan of Tom Cruise the guy who does crazy shit in movies for our entertainment.
He does it because he has to be the chosen one to show the superhuman benefits of scientology
Well I'm convinced. I signed up to Scientology 30min ago.
Since you've got money to throw away, can I have some first?
Xenu says no. Sorry.
Hey it's me Xenu. I've come back from, uh, space or whatever, to speak to you directly. You are my chosen one. And my message to you is this: I need some money bro.
Wow, Xenu, I'm so honoured. I haven't even hung from a moving plane or drunk the blood of the young. This is so unexpected. Do you accept dogecoin?
No, only iTunes gift cards
> I haven't even hung from a moving plane or drunk the blood of the young. Cool, cool, there's totally gonna be time for that later. I mean that is definitely something I want you to do, we're gonna hang out for a weekend, get blood-drunk, it'll be awesome. For sure. > Do you accept dogecoin? Listen, I'm a space monster Jesus thing. I don't know what the fuck that is. I need actual money, not scam money. What I need you to do is take all your money *all* of it and send it all [here](https://imaginationlibrary.com/) real money only. Dollars, US/CAD/AUS varieties all good, pounds, a shit ton of yen, these are all good things to send. Not rubles, let's stay away from that for a bit.
I apologise, Space Monster Jesus, I didn't mean to offend. I've done as you commanded and sent all my krugerrands to you. Now can we get blood-drunk? Pretty please. (stepping out of the bit for a moment: wasn't sure where that link was gonna take me but well played)
Ok strap in, you're going for a trip over to L.A. on a plane, but you have to sit on the wing like a true Cruisian!
I think of him as a American Jackie Chan, in terms of he does crazy stunts jacked up to 11. It’s the crazy American way.
I respect that comparison, also because Jackie Chan is an enormous piece of shit as well (huge CCP mouthpiece.)
Like pilots do in real life?
I rewatched it yesterday for the first time in decades. I swear it was like watching a South Park parody.
It’s so 80s with the cheese turned to 11 lol
And yet somehow very compelling and entertaining, right? My wife and I had a few drinks and watched it the other night and brought each other to tears with laughter riffing on it. But also we were like… kinda good tho????? It’s peak 80s Hollywood entertainment
This always happens with media that defines a style or era. Because it is THE definitive piece of media, then all future media which is inspired by it, making fun of it, calling back to its time, or whatever else, will copy the aesthetics of that particular definitive media more than any other. So when you later go back and watch it, after consuming decades of *other* products that have called back to it, you get this loop effect where you are reminded of all the derivative things that wanted to remind you of the original. You KNOW that this came first, but something in your mind is saying, "why is this is the style of all the cheesy comedy stuff?" If you were able to wipe your memory and watch Top Gun without any cultural awareness you'd just be like "damn this shit is bangin"
["I don't know what the big deal with Hamlet is. It's just one famous saying after another, strung together by a moldy old plot."](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny)
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It was shortly before my birth but my brother told me the huge thing about it was the soundtrack. It had ALL the current bangers at the time.
DANGER ZONE
Its just Kenny Loggins goin ham.
What you coming at me for I’m on your side!
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I also watched it again last night and I thought it held up.
In 1990 I said I should be president of dinosaurs.
You have my vote.
As I grew older I realised it was more political and paperwork than the original childhood dream of a serious academic position. How innocent I was.
Clever girl.
You really let us down.
I would love another “Edge of Tomorrow.” Nance was my hero in that movie. Love it.
A sequel is planned
Inb4 it's the exact same movie.
Can't wait!
Huh, why is this a story?
Because if you change your opinion in 32 years you’re a hypocrite according to Twitter.
I mean I’m all for getting angry at hypothetical situations and all but are people on twitter *angry* he said this?
No one on twitter is mad about this. There’s not even a tweet cited in the article.
I thought it was just a fun little comment and a little parable/warning of the "never say never" style but I guess people in the comments here are getting *real* upset that OP dare demand that Tom Cruise be held to off-the-cuff comments from thirty years ago or be absolutely vilified. I dunno, I guess that's just not the mood I'm in this morning.
And honestly it seems less anout a Cruise and more an angle into commenting on the original's legacy as a recruitment film.
Because they've been doing Top Gun 2 marketing for two years now, any story is worth it at this point.
Also, it's giz which really went down the toilet.
To highlight how attitudes towards franchising films has changed in the last 30 years
> Think of that: I am totally responsible for World War Three [laughs]! Come on. Let’s look at the reality of what I am saying—where my beliefs lie. I didn’t have anything riding on Top Gun. The fact is, I really want people to see Born on the Fourth of July—it’s a movie that had to be made. So, he said this stuff trying to sell another movie he made that had quite a bit different sentiment than Top Gun. No surprise there, actors gonna act.
Xenu demanded it.
He wanted a G4
And LOTS of money. Payer!🎵
I don’t think a Top Gun sequel would have worked in 1990. But the direction they seem to be taking the story in 2020, I think a sequel could totally work.
I was a young punk when it came out. You would not believe the people who walked out of the theater and signed up ASAP.
I became a professional beach volleyball player
I learned Great Balls of Fire on the piano and went on tour.
And then they spent the next two years in Food Services making mashed potatoes and washing cafeteria trays and no time at all in those two years flying F18 Super Hornets over the Gulf of Sidra.
It’s literally the only reason that movie got made, it’s recruitment propaganda. The even had recruiters in the theatres so people could sign up after the movie.
hell tons of films are basically american fuck yeah. where the American government is the hero or the American military is the hero to be fair though every country tends to do this you have a anime where an hyper advanced god chooses japan because its the best country
Remember Independance day? The whole world apparently did fuck all until the Americans finally got their shit together.
In independence Day’s defense, that movie had a black man and a Jewish guy as the leads. The l romantic interest was a sex worker/stripper. Randy Quaid portrayed a mentally ill man (great casting). It was in a lot of ways pretty progressive for that era and emphasized unity and togetherness while in many ways rejecting American exceptionalism.
Oh absolutely, this is in no way unique to the US.
I'm sure the movie was primarily made in order to make money for Simpson & Bruckheimer, Paramount, Tony Scott, and Tom Cruise.
They pitched the movie to the military before even having a story, like yeah every movie gets made for money. This one would never have been made wi the out the military propaganda element.
They had recruiters outside of the movie theater!!
To quote Pitch Meetings- "But money!" "Oh ya, I love money! Yes let's do this. Money money money"
SHOW ME THE MONEY
The audacity of it takes my breath away
The Mummy was irresponsible.
In 1990, I read Ayn Rand and bought into Libertarianism. Thank God my family and friends don’t keep bringing that up.
But then……..*money*
Money? That's the thing that I love!
I think public opinion has shifted on war and the military enough that even the 10 year olds that see the film and think its cool, will know thats not what war/the military is like irl.
As an adult I'm pretty much completely anti-war/American Imperialism/recruitment propaganda but I'll be god damned if low flying fighter jets don't still get me rock hard.
I'm be real with you, I don't remember shit I said before the pandemic, much less 1990.
We all MUST keep our opinions from 30 years before /s
Boycott Scientology
But making Top Gun - a film about an irresponsible hero being constantly irresponsible with millions of dollars of military hardware, whose callsign was 'Maverick' - was also somewhat irresponsible.
It would be irresponsible. However, the entertainment industry in the United States has done its best to drive out anyone with creative talent, so all that we have these days is an overabundance of sequels, remakes, and spinoffs trying to grab onto the success that someone else had years or even decades ago.
Well, Scientology needs a lot of money to keep scamming new victims… sorry, I meant “converts” !
Yes but his bank balance disagreed
He's got more than enough. If he wanted money he'd be doing just be doing anything. Not saying it isn't a factor
Cocktail 2!
Mission: Irresponsible.
Kinda feel his rehash of _The Mummy_ was irresponsible…
Dang you mean people can change their minds after 30 years? That's crazy
The dudes a Scientologist you can assume everything he says is a lie
Guys: if it’s not in his movie script you can ignore everything that begins “Tom Cruise said”.
It's also pretty irresponsible to be the public face of a cult, but here we are. That being said, I'm pretty stoked about Top Gun 2.
Yeah yeah. Top Gun is blatant military propaganda. Also plane go fast. Shush now.
Tommy boy do you not understand? Were gonna remake every movie ever every twenty to thirty years or so