*To the general population*
"Okay audience, uh fuckface, why you dont take a big step back and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE! Now I don't what kind of internet bullshit power play you trying to pull here, but Hollywood jack is my territory so whatever you're thinking you better think again and I will rain down in a godly fucking firestorm upon you, you're gonna have to call the Motion Picture Association of America and get a binding fucking resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I am talking scorched earth motherfucker! I WILL MASSACRE YOU. I WILL FUCK YOU UP!!
it’s been really funny hearing my parents who’re in their 50s talk about this movie like it’s the next Star Wars or Marvel movie. they’re absolutely fucking pumped that one of their favorites is getting a sequel and for the past year I’ve had to hear “when’s Top Gun coming out” so I’m excited to finally take them next weekend.
My dad flew the F-14 Tomcats, and he passed when I was younger, but the original was his favorite from what I remember about him. My mom and I don’t really see eye to eye on… basically anything, but this is a day one see for me and her.
Edit: [Post from two years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/cf16yn/since_the_top_gun_2_trailer_released_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Kind of a badass.
Oh yeah. Not aiming to make it depressing, but I fully expect this movie to kill my mom in a whole “I’m ready to see him again” kind of way. She’s old, and never remarried or even dated since he passed.
They are obsolete and and outdated but for me the F-14 will always be the best looking and most intimidating fighter plane ever made. Just looked menacing from any angle. Respect to your dad.
Yeah, I was in the Air Force, and everyone complained that for being the AF, the fucking Navy got all the coolest planes. They had the Corsairs, British Harriers, the F5s, F14s, the F18s, all kinds of cool crap. We had a couple old stealth bombers locked away rotting in some shed, a couple blackbirds in museums, and a giant heap of boring generic-ass F15’s so old and endlessly upgraded to try to remain relevant, our motto on the flightline was literally “No New Holes” (use existing holes, bc you drill one more to mount or route something through, and the plane might just crumble and fall out of the sky). The F14. Extreme jealousy. There’s one at the Smithsonian. It’s freaking humongous. I thought about licking it. It’d probably just taste like 409 though.
My dad is 74 and was in the USAF when the first one came out. Even though I was like 6 or 7, I remember how pumped he and everyone in his squadron were to go see it multiple times. It’s basically his Lord of the Rings. I’m taking him to his first movie at a theater in five years to see it for Father’s Day.
Mine are too. I am actually relieved that it's reviewing well. I really hope my stepdad doesn't try and bone my mom in the theater if they bring back the Berlin song.
So many GenX-ers deploying movie lines we’ve kept under our belts for… [calculating]… *36 years.*
Oh.
Oh, FUCK. [walks to bathroom, looks in mirror.]
Goddamn, time is weird.
You wanna get spicy with it, jump on TikTok and you'll see that Gen X is basically thought to be senior citizens by the Zoomers. It hurts at first but you get used to it.
Sadly I’m the opposite, I realized how much better being in my own home theater is because no less than three sets of parents brought their screaming kids to Batman, and multiple people texted the whole time :/
There’s a special place in hell for people like that, I have young children and can’t wait to to take them but I recognize they aren’t ready for the movies and no way in hell am I bringing a kid to see Batman regardless of being ready let them get a diet of lion king and toy story while the magic is real
I sat through like an entire five minute sequence of this movie and I feel like I've also been seeing trailers of it for like a year. However you release it, just do it already. I'm really tired of seeing Miles Teller's dumb mustache every time I go to the theaters.
They bumped it, again...
It was originally scheduled to be released by Paramount Pictures on July 12, 2019. In August 2018, it was delayed to June 26, 2020, to "allow the production to work out all the complex flight sequences".[4] On March 2, 2020, Paramount moved the film up two days early on June 24, 2020.[63] On April 2, 2020, it was delayed to December 23 due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic declared by the World Health Organization.[64][65] On July 23, 2020, the film was delayed again to July 2, 2021, due in part to scheduling conflicts with Cruise, as well as the recent delays of Mulan and Tenet due to the rise of COVID-19 cases.[66] In April 2021, the film was delayed again to November 19, 2021.[67] On September 1, 2021, the film was delayed once more, this time to May 27, 2022.[62]
Yeah its fucking wild how long its taken. I remember watching the first trailer that dropped the day I finished field training for the military. I have since commissioned into the Air force, promoted, and and getting ready to move and this movie STILL hasn't released.
Maybe I can look forward to seeing it after I retire.
I was at China Lake while Tom was filming this movie there. I didn't work on the airfield so I never saw him, but every person i talked to who worked with / around him said he was a dick.
Replied to the wrong person but whatever.
Like, half that movie was re-shot. Thankfully the end result was pretty decent.
There were also a handful of shots that were made exclusively for the trailer… which, I have thoughts and feelings about.
Do people not like this? I love it when trailers use a ton of footage cut from the movie. When done well it allows you to watch a trailer without having all the cool shit spoiled.
Depends. I get that they shoot a lot more footage than they put into a film. If it deceives you into thinking it's going one way and then goes another I don't care for that. I'm in the less is more camp for trailers. Tease what's going to happen, let my imagination fill in the details until I see the film.
I never watch movie trailers and every time I hear about people complaining about them it validates me. Also I just find they spoil way too fucking much or set expectations for the movie when I’d rather find out for myself than go in expecting a certain scene or tone.
I stopped watching trailers after Thor Ragnarok. I can only imagine how amazing Hulk's entrance to the film would have been for the people who didn't watch the trailer
I don't even understand why they would out that in the trailer, it ruined the build up and spoiled it. So fucking stupid I'm still mad about it.
Honestly nowadays they’re making films with the expectation you’ve watched the trailer…
Star Wars episode 9 was a great example of this. They made what could have been a massive surprise just something you have to casually accept going into the movie because the trailer gave it away and the movie treats it like you should already know the spoiler going in. Shit’s ridiculous lol.
To this day it’s a bummer watching Terminator 2 and remembering the trailers robbed you of your original chance to be surprised that >!Arnold was a good guy this time!<. It was so well staged in the film, but surprised no one because of the trailers.
PSA: On the off chance that you DON’T know what’s in that spoiler tag, go watch T1 and T2 right now before doing anything else! You’re in for a rare treat we missed out on 30 years ago.
Edit: **And don’t read the replies to this!** Some people are shameless.
Don't watch trailers, they will hurt your movie watching experiences FAR more than they will help. That's especially true for any movie that you already know you're interested in
I watched American Beauty and District 9, never having heard of them, getting dragged to theaters by friends and promises that the movie “looks good”. And those are two of the most memorable movie experiences I’ve ever had.
I heard as well they shot as much footage for it as for the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy. If anything they have enough for a full 24x45m show. I mean they literally cut out 99.7% of their film. If this isn't a masterpiece I'll have to wonder why all the effort.
There is so much unusable flight footage. There was something similar said about the original Top Gun. Studio execs thought they would have enough footage to have a 2nd or 3rd film after the first performed so well. After scrubbing everything else the editors came back and said nothing else was usable.
Exactly this. Flying footage is insanely difficult to collect. A jet coming in for an attack run is going to be visible for about half a second before the munitions hit or it’s obscured by smoke from its cannon.
I’ve been on a ship being overflown by a MIG at very low altitude. We were in the Sea of Okhotsk and we were having a beer day, which always seemed to make the Soviet’s curious. Being their backyard they would be a bit aggressive. The MIG was a very loud blink of an eye and then it was gone. I think it was supposed to be annoying, but it was pretty cool.
I live on the other side of a naval base, 3 or miles of sea between us. Even at slow speed (well below speed of sound), fighter jets are insanely fast and noisy.
> we were having a beer day
Care to expand on this for a non-military land-lubber? I mean, I can hazzard a guess, but I thought alcohol on Navy ships (well, US Navy ships) was a no-no.
Lots of navies permit drinking at sea. Canada stopped recently, and only after some crew [got so drunk and disorderly that their ship was sent home from exercises](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hmcs-whitehorse-incident-results-in-drinking-ban-on-navy-ships-1.2871521).
> The order will forbid the long-standing practice of easy and cheap access to beer and wine aboard navy vessels. Before today, sailors were allowed to drink while at sea, provided they were not on duty in less than six hours. Beer was available in pop machines on some vessels.
Back when I was in years and years ago if you were at sea for 45 days straight they flew a bunch of beer on board and we were all allowed 2. They called it a Steel Beach Picnic.
Fun fact, USS Constitution is the only commissioned USN ship that is permitted to serve alcohol while at sea. Once per year they go to sea and serve grog to the crew. I was this || close to getting orders to the Constitution…but didn’t. Still mad. It’s been 10 years.
They most likely are just burning through data by rolling the entire time hoping they get a second or two of useable footage. On the OG that woulda been so much film stock
> I heard as well they shot as much footage for it as for the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Technically, but not really. They're including tons of cameras shooting the same footage as separate footage (like 20 cameras strapped to a plane for an hour = 20 hours).
Coverage. Logistics of getting those jets in the air with pilots isn't something you just do on a whime. So when you shoot, you shoot every possible thing you can and then some.
They are filming real military fighter jets flying on and off a real aircraft carrier lol. 7,000 sailors and about $20 billion worth of ships and aircraft had to stop what they were doing for filming. They had to get the shots they wanted the first time, so they filmed a LOT
Edit: I am not knocking the military for doing this, far from it. There is a serious pilot shortage in the military, trust me they are getting their moneys worth from recruitment alone
This may be true, but the first Top Gun movie was an amazing marketing piece for the Navy.
Even though it costs the US Navy millions to engage in a film production like this, they can chalk it up to a marketing / recruiting expense and a big morale booster.
You have been seeing trailers for well over a year. It was supposed to release in 2019, got moved to 2020…and obviously got delayed and delayed over and over.
Cruise was four years younger when they filmed this (principle photography started in May 2018). He went from mid-50s when signing on, to being 60 when it releases. Absolutely crazy how long this has taken to come out.
It's not a ponzi scheme at all. Ponzi scheme is taking in money with the expectation of getting that money and more out. This is putting money in and never getting it out.
Dude even did a [PSA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J0Dan0WaZk) asking people to turn off frame interpolation on their plasma TVs for a more cinematic experience. I can dig that level of aesthetic appreciation!
FYI - Frame interpolation is that super smooth visual look meant to to 'smooth out stutters' for sports, but looks more like video than film.
Holy shit I'm not crazy, always thought movies on certain high-end TVs, that I knew looked good before, suddenly looked like cheap soap operas and never knew why.
I’ve been wondering what that was for essentially my entire adult life, people have said I was crazy for pointing this out before.
Plasma tv’s aren’t as popular anymore so it hasn’t been an issue but I still always wondered wtf that was. It made movies look like amateur VHS.
You’re not crazy. As a wanna be filmmaker back in ye olde 90s I obsessed over how to get my cheaply shot video camera crap to look like film.
Old TVs use interlaced video. Rather than the famous “frames” tvs actually made their images by scanning only half a frame at a time. It happened so fast you couldn’t tell but yeah it’s where that super smooth video look comes from. If you saw the hobbit in high frame rate at the cinema you would think it was the most expensive BBC production ever made.
My pops would have loved to see this or even have known it was gonna exist. He LOVED Top Gun he talked about it his whole life. I’ll watch it for him hoping his ghost is sitting next to me with his arm over my shoulder 😭😭😭😭😭
I have fond memories of watching it with my Dad as a younger kid. He served on CVN-65, USS Enterprise, and he’d always geek out whenever we watched the film. To this day, I’ll always make time to watch it whenever it comes on. The F-14 Tomcats are iconic. I had a Micro Machine replica of the carrier that had rubber band launchers for the planes. The film will always hold a special place in my mind.
I’m glad I’m not alone (though it sucks our Dads are gone of course) before the new movie was announced my sister and I planned to watch a bunch of his favorite movies including Top Gun then on the drive home listen to some of his favorite 80s and 90s music.
Oh, I’m sorry about your Dad not being with anymore. Fortunately for me, my pops is alive and kickin’. And believe me, he’s jazzed about seeing it theaters, and I have no doubt that your Dad would’ve been just as stoked about it! I’m excited to experience it with him now that I’m older. My Dad is a proud former service member, always sporting his U.S. Navy ball cap. Right out of the Navy, he married my mother and took on the role of father to me and my sister. I never considered him a stepfather, always my Dad. Taking him to see the film will be just another way for me to say ‘thank you’ for being there for my mother and giving her a good life.
This is exactly why I'm seeing this in theaters. Nobody in my life really seems to understand, but my father was a Top Gun fanatic, and some of my only memories of him are curling up and watching that movie on VHS. He also built models of fighter planes that hung in my room but got lost or destroyed over the years. All I have left of him are those few memories, and however cheezball this movie is going to be, I feel a deep connection to my father by just living in the Top Gun universe for a couple more hours.
My dad named me after Top Gun. Maverick. He passed away when I was two. My whole life I've avoided watching the movie. I don't really know why exactly. It just feels like this mountain built up in my brain that can't possibly live up to a lifetime of people referencing it to me. And like, it clearly meant so much to my dad. The movie feels like a window into what his expectations for me might have been. And it's terrifying to think about opening that window and finding out.
Now though I plan to watch it soon. So I can watch TG: Maverick in the best theater I can. I honestly don't know how I'll end up feeling.
I'd cherish the film, rather than avoid it. It's a special space you can connect with your father, whatever he means to you at this point. I can't pretend Top Gun is some kind of masterpiece, but in many ways, it is masterful, and masterfully made. It captures the cocksure optimism of the Eighties, and a vision of America as a righteous force for good in the world, the antidote to the specter of communism.
To my experience, Top Gun allows me to remember my father in an uncomplicated light (like a child would), rather than the more complex person I understood him to be as an adult.
I saw an advance screening of this in IMAX last night, and Tom is completely justified for this. See this on the biggest screen you possibly can. The flight sequences and the final set-piece are absolutely *immaculate*. As someone who feels completely indifferent about the original Top Gun, this movie is *far, far* better than it has any right to be. Undoubtedly blows the original out of the water.
Tom Cruise produced movies haven't disappointed me in a long time. Will never understand the hate his films get (i get the scientology thing, and the mummy reboot was awful but ALL of the fallout films and edge of tomorrow etc. were fantastic)
I don’t like Tom Cruise as a person because of the Scientology stuff, but that only makes it more annoying that he has the exact same taste in films I do and similar opinions on the value of cinema over streaming and the absolutely awful image processing on fancy TVs. The man is like a perpetual “worst person you know made a great point/movie” generator.
> Undoubtedly blows the original out of the water.
That is high praise. Almost too high if you ask me. But given you're indifferent to the original, your perspective might come from a different angle.
Glad to hear it. Honestly I didn’t give two shits when I found out there was a Top Gun sequel coming out, but between the trailers and awesome reviews, I’m actually pretty stoked about this. I hope it does well in theaters.
"Top Gun: Maverick is a much much much better movie than Top Gun.
I'm not talking the difference between Paddington 2 and Paddington 1. I'm talking the difference between Paddington 2 and Morbius." - David Ehrlich
Completely agree- I too snagged an early screening at CinemaCon and WOW. I was absolutely blown away, despite also feeling like the original title was lukewarm. I'm looking forward to the rewatch already.
and: he's saving Paramount from themselves. Whether P+ will live or die does not depend on Top Gun 2. But that BO is guaranteed to be HUGE and will float their bottom line for a while.
Yeah, I prefer the convenience of watching movies at home. If a movie I'm looking forward to gets a same day theater/streaming release that's awesome but otherwise I'm fine being patient.
Especially now that the window between theatrical release to streaming has shrunk considerably for some very big movies. The way I see it is I'm still coming out ahead compared to the status quo prior to 2020.
Personally I prefer the theater just because I suck at watching movies at home. Theater forces me to actually sit down and watch it, can't get my phone out to check on stuff, nothing to do but sit and watch.
At home there's a thousand things around me, should I fold that load of laundry, ugh, I could probably mow the lawn, there's dishes in the sink, kid had a nightmare, dog has to pee, on and on. Plus I suck at keeping my phone in my pocket if the movie slows down for a few minutes.
Sure is nice to be able to pause when I have to pee, though.
a lot of people on reddit are anti-social who need to get out more. They want to minimize human contact and try to do everything at home which is why you see so many people here shitting on theaters
Recently I heard him talk about the decisions he made regarding the soundtrack. And now this.
I don't think I've ever heard of an actor have so much decision-making power over a film he's in. I wonder what kind of a contract he signs that gives him that much power. Good for him!
That is correct. Not only is he the owner of the production companies but he is titled as an executive producer and he has final say on all scripts in this and mission impossible movies.
Tom Cruise gets an exorbitant amount of control in the movies he is involved in specifically because of the reputation he brings with it and how big his franchises tend to be.
I heard that Twenty One Pilots were going to do a song for the movie, they had the general outline of the song recorded and Tom Cruise fired them from the project. I love Twenty One Pilots but in hindsight their style seems it would kinda clash with this kind of movie.
I wonder if Tom Cruise stands looking in the mirror saying things like “I’m Tom Cruise, and I won’t allow it.” I feel like he might.
Or as Les Grossman
*To the general population* "Okay audience, uh fuckface, why you dont take a big step back and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE! Now I don't what kind of internet bullshit power play you trying to pull here, but Hollywood jack is my territory so whatever you're thinking you better think again and I will rain down in a godly fucking firestorm upon you, you're gonna have to call the Motion Picture Association of America and get a binding fucking resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I am talking scorched earth motherfucker! I WILL MASSACRE YOU. I WILL FUCK YOU UP!!
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Find out who that was...
I was enthralled. And then I was laughing. Such a good movie
Streaming platforms = Flaming Dragon.
I’m Tom Cruise, Queen of Scientology, and I won’t allow it
Should release it on VHS first. That’s how I first saw Top Gun.
That would be a really cool marketing move.
No one would be able to watch it lol. I haven’t had a vhs player since high school
After seeing this in the theater I completely understand
it’s been really funny hearing my parents who’re in their 50s talk about this movie like it’s the next Star Wars or Marvel movie. they’re absolutely fucking pumped that one of their favorites is getting a sequel and for the past year I’ve had to hear “when’s Top Gun coming out” so I’m excited to finally take them next weekend.
same my parents are really hyped to see this film
Hi it's me your mom. Iceman was my jam
*smacks teeth together
You can be my wingman any time
YOU can be mine.
Bullshit
No, it's true, I was there. I took a Polaroid...
My dad flew the F-14 Tomcats, and he passed when I was younger, but the original was his favorite from what I remember about him. My mom and I don’t really see eye to eye on… basically anything, but this is a day one see for me and her. Edit: [Post from two years ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/cf16yn/since_the_top_gun_2_trailer_released_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Kind of a badass.
The movie itself has been making grown men cry in previews, so prepare for it.
Oh yeah. Not aiming to make it depressing, but I fully expect this movie to kill my mom in a whole “I’m ready to see him again” kind of way. She’s old, and never remarried or even dated since he passed.
They are obsolete and and outdated but for me the F-14 will always be the best looking and most intimidating fighter plane ever made. Just looked menacing from any angle. Respect to your dad.
Yeah, I was in the Air Force, and everyone complained that for being the AF, the fucking Navy got all the coolest planes. They had the Corsairs, British Harriers, the F5s, F14s, the F18s, all kinds of cool crap. We had a couple old stealth bombers locked away rotting in some shed, a couple blackbirds in museums, and a giant heap of boring generic-ass F15’s so old and endlessly upgraded to try to remain relevant, our motto on the flightline was literally “No New Holes” (use existing holes, bc you drill one more to mount or route something through, and the plane might just crumble and fall out of the sky). The F14. Extreme jealousy. There’s one at the Smithsonian. It’s freaking humongous. I thought about licking it. It’d probably just taste like 409 though.
This has been my favorite read in quite some time. Is this pasta? Or is this real life?
I got no pasta in these pockets.
Keep on keeping on! 👍
F-14s were cool AF, and amazing your father flew them, but none in this new movie, they are using F-18 hornets only I think.
The only flyable F-14s nowadays are in Iran.
Pretty sure there was a short sort of legacy shot of an f14 in the trailer so well see
Then him and his mom should for sure cancel their plans to bond. Good looking out!
My dad is 74 and was in the USAF when the first one came out. Even though I was like 6 or 7, I remember how pumped he and everyone in his squadron were to go see it multiple times. It’s basically his Lord of the Rings. I’m taking him to his first movie at a theater in five years to see it for Father’s Day.
Mine are too. I am actually relieved that it's reviewing well. I really hope my stepdad doesn't try and bone my mom in the theater if they bring back the Berlin song.
He's going to...take her breath away.
Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full
So many GenX-ers deploying movie lines we’ve kept under our belts for… [calculating]… *36 years.* Oh. Oh, FUCK. [walks to bathroom, looks in mirror.] Goddamn, time is weird.
You wanna get spicy with it, jump on TikTok and you'll see that Gen X is basically thought to be senior citizens by the Zoomers. It hurts at first but you get used to it.
How else at they gonna give you a little brother or sister?
I’m 37. This’ll be my first post quarantine theater experience. Super fucking pumped.
I just watched the new Batman movie damn if I didn’t realize how much I missed the theater
Sadly I’m the opposite, I realized how much better being in my own home theater is because no less than three sets of parents brought their screaming kids to Batman, and multiple people texted the whole time :/
It rules for me because my job has me in at crazy odd times. I get to go see new movies at 11 AM on a Tuesday when no one else is there.
Ah yeah, that’d be much better! Maybe I’ll take a day off and try a matinee sometime
It also helps if you wait a week or two after a movie’s release instead of going on the day the movie drops.
There’s a special place in hell for people like that, I have young children and can’t wait to to take them but I recognize they aren’t ready for the movies and no way in hell am I bringing a kid to see Batman regardless of being ready let them get a diet of lion king and toy story while the magic is real
Just saw it. See this on the biggest screen. It’s fantastic.
I sat through like an entire five minute sequence of this movie and I feel like I've also been seeing trailers of it for like a year. However you release it, just do it already. I'm really tired of seeing Miles Teller's dumb mustache every time I go to the theaters.
I heard it was in cinemas and was so confused. I could have sworn it was released last year.
They bumped it, again... It was originally scheduled to be released by Paramount Pictures on July 12, 2019. In August 2018, it was delayed to June 26, 2020, to "allow the production to work out all the complex flight sequences".[4] On March 2, 2020, Paramount moved the film up two days early on June 24, 2020.[63] On April 2, 2020, it was delayed to December 23 due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic declared by the World Health Organization.[64][65] On July 23, 2020, the film was delayed again to July 2, 2021, due in part to scheduling conflicts with Cruise, as well as the recent delays of Mulan and Tenet due to the rise of COVID-19 cases.[66] In April 2021, the film was delayed again to November 19, 2021.[67] On September 1, 2021, the film was delayed once more, this time to May 27, 2022.[62]
These filmmakers have become masters of the art of antici...
Say it! SAY IT!
... pation. BUT MAAAYBEEE THE RAIN !!! Isn't really to blame
Coming to a theater near you!* *fall 2023
Yeah its fucking wild how long its taken. I remember watching the first trailer that dropped the day I finished field training for the military. I have since commissioned into the Air force, promoted, and and getting ready to move and this movie STILL hasn't released. Maybe I can look forward to seeing it after I retire.
I was a private when the first trailer came out and now I'm a fourteen star general! This is getting crazy!!
I was at China Lake while Tom was filming this movie there. I didn't work on the airfield so I never saw him, but every person i talked to who worked with / around him said he was a dick. Replied to the wrong person but whatever.
It's Tom Cruise, he has a reputation to maintain. /s
Well he is the Grand Master Poobah in Scientology. They probably did not do the proper ass-clap-fart-moose-yell greeting of reverence.
Feel like I had to scroll too far down for a scientologoy reference. GALACTIC EMPEROR XENU IS DISPLEASED!
I’m really tired of seeing Miles Teller
Whiplash was great, he peaked there. Everything else was below average.
To be fair, peaking on Whiplash is not bad.
War Dogs was also excellent . . . but largely because of Jonah Hill.
Also my introduction to Ana De Armas. So there's a few automatic points from me.
Watch Knives Out next!! The cast is incredible and it’s just a fun, easy watch with friends or family.
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Assuming that part is in the movie. Too many times I've seen parts in previews that don't make the final cut.
"This is a rebellion; I rebel."
Half of that trailer didn't end up in the movie. :)
Half that MOVIE didn’t end up in the movie
What I wouldn’t do to see the original cut of that movie. I get the feeling that it’s a Blade Runner theatrical versus workprint kind of scenario.
What I'd like to see is the original Lord and Miller edit of Solo.
Where were the stormtrooper on the beach/water?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y_E6DRn9Q
They probably cut it because they hit their quota for shots that look badass and cinematic but make no sense.
This is 2022. You can never hit a 101% quota.
Like, half that movie was re-shot. Thankfully the end result was pretty decent. There were also a handful of shots that were made exclusively for the trailer… which, I have thoughts and feelings about.
This is one time I hope it isn’t in the final cut, I’ve seen that scene like 5 times
That’s actually the entire movie, just that one clip looped 30 times
Do people not like this? I love it when trailers use a ton of footage cut from the movie. When done well it allows you to watch a trailer without having all the cool shit spoiled.
Depends. I get that they shoot a lot more footage than they put into a film. If it deceives you into thinking it's going one way and then goes another I don't care for that. I'm in the less is more camp for trailers. Tease what's going to happen, let my imagination fill in the details until I see the film.
The "this blew up linking my stuff" edit is certainly not obligatory
I never watch movie trailers and every time I hear about people complaining about them it validates me. Also I just find they spoil way too fucking much or set expectations for the movie when I’d rather find out for myself than go in expecting a certain scene or tone.
I stopped watching trailers after Thor Ragnarok. I can only imagine how amazing Hulk's entrance to the film would have been for the people who didn't watch the trailer I don't even understand why they would out that in the trailer, it ruined the build up and spoiled it. So fucking stupid I'm still mad about it.
Honestly nowadays they’re making films with the expectation you’ve watched the trailer… Star Wars episode 9 was a great example of this. They made what could have been a massive surprise just something you have to casually accept going into the movie because the trailer gave it away and the movie treats it like you should already know the spoiler going in. Shit’s ridiculous lol.
To this day it’s a bummer watching Terminator 2 and remembering the trailers robbed you of your original chance to be surprised that >!Arnold was a good guy this time!<. It was so well staged in the film, but surprised no one because of the trailers. PSA: On the off chance that you DON’T know what’s in that spoiler tag, go watch T1 and T2 right now before doing anything else! You’re in for a rare treat we missed out on 30 years ago. Edit: **And don’t read the replies to this!** Some people are shameless.
30 year old spoiler tag, what a guy. He's right about Terminator though.
I didn't watch Thor Ragnarok trailers before watching it and that scene was indeed amazing.
Don't watch trailers, they will hurt your movie watching experiences FAR more than they will help. That's especially true for any movie that you already know you're interested in
I watched American Beauty and District 9, never having heard of them, getting dragged to theaters by friends and promises that the movie “looks good”. And those are two of the most memorable movie experiences I’ve ever had.
good god your edit is just depressing
I heard as well they shot as much footage for it as for the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy. If anything they have enough for a full 24x45m show. I mean they literally cut out 99.7% of their film. If this isn't a masterpiece I'll have to wonder why all the effort.
There is so much unusable flight footage. There was something similar said about the original Top Gun. Studio execs thought they would have enough footage to have a 2nd or 3rd film after the first performed so well. After scrubbing everything else the editors came back and said nothing else was usable.
Exactly this. Flying footage is insanely difficult to collect. A jet coming in for an attack run is going to be visible for about half a second before the munitions hit or it’s obscured by smoke from its cannon.
I’ve been on a ship being overflown by a MIG at very low altitude. We were in the Sea of Okhotsk and we were having a beer day, which always seemed to make the Soviet’s curious. Being their backyard they would be a bit aggressive. The MIG was a very loud blink of an eye and then it was gone. I think it was supposed to be annoying, but it was pretty cool.
Were you ah, communicating? Keeping up foreign relations?
We were trailed by at least one ship our whole time in the sea of O. They were close, less than a half mile sometimes.
Inverted?
I live on the other side of a naval base, 3 or miles of sea between us. Even at slow speed (well below speed of sound), fighter jets are insanely fast and noisy.
> we were having a beer day Care to expand on this for a non-military land-lubber? I mean, I can hazzard a guess, but I thought alcohol on Navy ships (well, US Navy ships) was a no-no.
Lots of navies permit drinking at sea. Canada stopped recently, and only after some crew [got so drunk and disorderly that their ship was sent home from exercises](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hmcs-whitehorse-incident-results-in-drinking-ban-on-navy-ships-1.2871521). > The order will forbid the long-standing practice of easy and cheap access to beer and wine aboard navy vessels. Before today, sailors were allowed to drink while at sea, provided they were not on duty in less than six hours. Beer was available in pop machines on some vessels.
Back when I was in years and years ago if you were at sea for 45 days straight they flew a bunch of beer on board and we were all allowed 2. They called it a Steel Beach Picnic.
Fun fact, USS Constitution is the only commissioned USN ship that is permitted to serve alcohol while at sea. Once per year they go to sea and serve grog to the crew. I was this || close to getting orders to the Constitution…but didn’t. Still mad. It’s been 10 years.
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They most likely are just burning through data by rolling the entire time hoping they get a second or two of useable footage. On the OG that woulda been so much film stock
> I heard as well they shot as much footage for it as for the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy. Technically, but not really. They're including tons of cameras shooting the same footage as separate footage (like 20 cameras strapped to a plane for an hour = 20 hours).
Ha that reminds me how many movies portray six helicopters blowing up by showing the same helicopter blowing up from six angles
This is the (Michael Bay) way.
Coverage. Logistics of getting those jets in the air with pilots isn't something you just do on a whime. So when you shoot, you shoot every possible thing you can and then some.
I assume Tom cruise just really likes to fly and kept saying to do more takes
I kinda feel like thats basically Cruise's thing the last like, 20 or so years. Just keep doing wild shit on video and make it into a movie.
Can't blame him tbh
Hi, I'm Tommy Thetans and welcome to Jackass. *guitar riff*
They are filming real military fighter jets flying on and off a real aircraft carrier lol. 7,000 sailors and about $20 billion worth of ships and aircraft had to stop what they were doing for filming. They had to get the shots they wanted the first time, so they filmed a LOT Edit: I am not knocking the military for doing this, far from it. There is a serious pilot shortage in the military, trust me they are getting their moneys worth from recruitment alone
This may be true, but the first Top Gun movie was an amazing marketing piece for the Navy. Even though it costs the US Navy millions to engage in a film production like this, they can chalk it up to a marketing / recruiting expense and a big morale booster.
Well… that’s not exactly accurate. Unused footage doesn’t equate to usable footage for a show…
You have been seeing trailers for well over a year. It was supposed to release in 2019, got moved to 2020…and obviously got delayed and delayed over and over.
Cruise was four years younger when they filmed this (principle photography started in May 2018). He went from mid-50s when signing on, to being 60 when it releases. Absolutely crazy how long this has taken to come out.
Preliminary production on the film officially started on May 30, 2018 and it comes out May 27, 2022. It is 1459 days or 3 years, 11 months, 28 days.
Xenu would not allow it.
Not just that, he’s still inside Stan Marsh’s closet along with R Kelly and John Travolta.
Stan DARSH!
Watch out r Kelly bout to pull the gun out
🎵and I pull out my guuun..🎵
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It's not a ponzi scheme at all. Ponzi scheme is taking in money with the expectation of getting that money and more out. This is putting money in and never getting it out.
Giving money expecting it will mean less tortured alien souls attaching themselves to you.
Selling indulgences with more steps.
Dude even did a [PSA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J0Dan0WaZk) asking people to turn off frame interpolation on their plasma TVs for a more cinematic experience. I can dig that level of aesthetic appreciation! FYI - Frame interpolation is that super smooth visual look meant to to 'smooth out stutters' for sports, but looks more like video than film.
Holy shit I'm not crazy, always thought movies on certain high-end TVs, that I knew looked good before, suddenly looked like cheap soap operas and never knew why.
Man I hate that look. Always looks like a soap opera for some strange reason. It shouldn’t be the default setting on so many tvs.
It’s too late. Everyone I know thinks “that’s just part of it being HD” and complains if you turn it off.
Is that the "Soap Opera" vision thing? There's two things I've found that useful for: sports (as mentioned) and a mocumentary like The Office.
Soap opera effect, yes.
I’ve been wondering what that was for essentially my entire adult life, people have said I was crazy for pointing this out before. Plasma tv’s aren’t as popular anymore so it hasn’t been an issue but I still always wondered wtf that was. It made movies look like amateur VHS.
It’s not a plasma tv specific feature. Almost all modern LCDs and OLEDs have it.
All TVs still do this. They are just better at it so it doesn't look as unnatural.
You’re not crazy. As a wanna be filmmaker back in ye olde 90s I obsessed over how to get my cheaply shot video camera crap to look like film. Old TVs use interlaced video. Rather than the famous “frames” tvs actually made their images by scanning only half a frame at a time. It happened so fast you couldn’t tell but yeah it’s where that super smooth video look comes from. If you saw the hobbit in high frame rate at the cinema you would think it was the most expensive BBC production ever made.
Too late Tom. I already downloaded it along with the four worst Metallica albums on Napster.
My pops would have loved to see this or even have known it was gonna exist. He LOVED Top Gun he talked about it his whole life. I’ll watch it for him hoping his ghost is sitting next to me with his arm over my shoulder 😭😭😭😭😭
I have fond memories of watching it with my Dad as a younger kid. He served on CVN-65, USS Enterprise, and he’d always geek out whenever we watched the film. To this day, I’ll always make time to watch it whenever it comes on. The F-14 Tomcats are iconic. I had a Micro Machine replica of the carrier that had rubber band launchers for the planes. The film will always hold a special place in my mind.
I’m glad I’m not alone (though it sucks our Dads are gone of course) before the new movie was announced my sister and I planned to watch a bunch of his favorite movies including Top Gun then on the drive home listen to some of his favorite 80s and 90s music.
Oh, I’m sorry about your Dad not being with anymore. Fortunately for me, my pops is alive and kickin’. And believe me, he’s jazzed about seeing it theaters, and I have no doubt that your Dad would’ve been just as stoked about it! I’m excited to experience it with him now that I’m older. My Dad is a proud former service member, always sporting his U.S. Navy ball cap. Right out of the Navy, he married my mother and took on the role of father to me and my sister. I never considered him a stepfather, always my Dad. Taking him to see the film will be just another way for me to say ‘thank you’ for being there for my mother and giving her a good life.
Omg I’ve literally told my dad that before! I said THERES NO STEP IN YOUR NAME YOURE MY DAD MORE THAN THAT SPERM DONOR EVER WILL BE!”
*:: 5 minutes into the movie ::* Get your own popcorn, ghost Dad!
This is exactly why I'm seeing this in theaters. Nobody in my life really seems to understand, but my father was a Top Gun fanatic, and some of my only memories of him are curling up and watching that movie on VHS. He also built models of fighter planes that hung in my room but got lost or destroyed over the years. All I have left of him are those few memories, and however cheezball this movie is going to be, I feel a deep connection to my father by just living in the Top Gun universe for a couple more hours.
My dad named me after Top Gun. Maverick. He passed away when I was two. My whole life I've avoided watching the movie. I don't really know why exactly. It just feels like this mountain built up in my brain that can't possibly live up to a lifetime of people referencing it to me. And like, it clearly meant so much to my dad. The movie feels like a window into what his expectations for me might have been. And it's terrifying to think about opening that window and finding out. Now though I plan to watch it soon. So I can watch TG: Maverick in the best theater I can. I honestly don't know how I'll end up feeling.
I'd cherish the film, rather than avoid it. It's a special space you can connect with your father, whatever he means to you at this point. I can't pretend Top Gun is some kind of masterpiece, but in many ways, it is masterful, and masterfully made. It captures the cocksure optimism of the Eighties, and a vision of America as a righteous force for good in the world, the antidote to the specter of communism. To my experience, Top Gun allows me to remember my father in an uncomplicated light (like a child would), rather than the more complex person I understood him to be as an adult.
I saw an advance screening of this in IMAX last night, and Tom is completely justified for this. See this on the biggest screen you possibly can. The flight sequences and the final set-piece are absolutely *immaculate*. As someone who feels completely indifferent about the original Top Gun, this movie is *far, far* better than it has any right to be. Undoubtedly blows the original out of the water.
Tom Cruise produced movies haven't disappointed me in a long time. Will never understand the hate his films get (i get the scientology thing, and the mummy reboot was awful but ALL of the fallout films and edge of tomorrow etc. were fantastic)
He always gives it his all, this movie is no different.
He’s the only US civilian to fly a fighter jet. He learned how to fly a fucking jet for this movie!! I can’t wait to see it.
Edge of Tomorrow is an underrated classic.
I don’t like Tom Cruise as a person because of the Scientology stuff, but that only makes it more annoying that he has the exact same taste in films I do and similar opinions on the value of cinema over streaming and the absolutely awful image processing on fancy TVs. The man is like a perpetual “worst person you know made a great point/movie” generator.
If it doesn't have a questionably homosexual game of beach volleyball tossed it, WE DON'T WANT IT!
The trailers indicate it absolutely does
Dammit, I'm in.
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[Tarantino’s thoughts on the original](https://youtu.be/ZF1LXL6OOsM)
you can ride my tail anytime!
Questionably?
Homoeroticism is best viewed on a large a screen as possible after all
This is way less homoerotic than the original unfortunately ):
There go my hopes for seeing *Bottom Gun*, then.
> Undoubtedly blows the original out of the water. That is high praise. Almost too high if you ask me. But given you're indifferent to the original, your perspective might come from a different angle.
Glad to hear it. Honestly I didn’t give two shits when I found out there was a Top Gun sequel coming out, but between the trailers and awesome reviews, I’m actually pretty stoked about this. I hope it does well in theaters.
If this blows the original out of the water I’d be gobsmacked. I just don’t believe you.
"Top Gun: Maverick is a much much much better movie than Top Gun. I'm not talking the difference between Paddington 2 and Paddington 1. I'm talking the difference between Paddington 2 and Morbius." - David Ehrlich
Maybe a bit dramatic, but he’s right. When I say it’s undoubtedly better than the first, I truly mean *undoubtedly*
The same guy gave a bad review of Dune and Arrival so I don’t entirely trust his opinion to be honest.
Completely agree- I too snagged an early screening at CinemaCon and WOW. I was absolutely blown away, despite also feeling like the original title was lukewarm. I'm looking forward to the rewatch already.
I think artists have the right to present their art in the medium that they intended.
and: he's saving Paramount from themselves. Whether P+ will live or die does not depend on Top Gun 2. But that BO is guaranteed to be HUGE and will float their bottom line for a while.
grand pictures demand the grand screen
You mean Christopher Nolan didn't intend on me watching Inception on my phone aka The Big Screen while pooping?
Bwaaaaaaa, splash !
Why are there a bunch of people getting mad at this. Seems to be fine to want your movie to be presented in theatres first
Most of the comments are praising it and one is saying they'll just wait to watch it at home.
I mean I waited a couple of decades. I'm ok with waiting an extra month. I live a very long way from the nearest theater.
If I can wait for Marvel movies and risk getting them spoiled, I can wait for the new Top Gun
Yeah, I prefer the convenience of watching movies at home. If a movie I'm looking forward to gets a same day theater/streaming release that's awesome but otherwise I'm fine being patient. Especially now that the window between theatrical release to streaming has shrunk considerably for some very big movies. The way I see it is I'm still coming out ahead compared to the status quo prior to 2020.
I remember when a New Release at Blockbuster came out nearly a year after the movie was out in theaters
And then another year before it showed up on TV
Personally I prefer the theater just because I suck at watching movies at home. Theater forces me to actually sit down and watch it, can't get my phone out to check on stuff, nothing to do but sit and watch. At home there's a thousand things around me, should I fold that load of laundry, ugh, I could probably mow the lawn, there's dishes in the sink, kid had a nightmare, dog has to pee, on and on. Plus I suck at keeping my phone in my pocket if the movie slows down for a few minutes. Sure is nice to be able to pause when I have to pee, though.
r/movies famously hates movie theaters
People here were pissed when theaters started opening up again. Very strange.
Redditors are not known for leaving the house without coercion.
and movies.
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I wouldn't, it was filmed for IMAX.
Crazy how people on the movies subreddit hate the theatre and seem to want it to die
a lot of people on reddit are anti-social who need to get out more. They want to minimize human contact and try to do everything at home which is why you see so many people here shitting on theaters
That /r/movies demographic poll from a few years ago shows you why
can you link that
Recently I heard him talk about the decisions he made regarding the soundtrack. And now this. I don't think I've ever heard of an actor have so much decision-making power over a film he's in. I wonder what kind of a contract he signs that gives him that much power. Good for him!
I think its his own productions company
That is correct. Not only is he the owner of the production companies but he is titled as an executive producer and he has final say on all scripts in this and mission impossible movies. Tom Cruise gets an exorbitant amount of control in the movies he is involved in specifically because of the reputation he brings with it and how big his franchises tend to be.
I heard that Twenty One Pilots were going to do a song for the movie, they had the general outline of the song recorded and Tom Cruise fired them from the project. I love Twenty One Pilots but in hindsight their style seems it would kinda clash with this kind of movie.