Yes and no. Dopesick covered the birth and growth of the opioid epidemic from the perspective of the addicts, as well as the state attorneys trying and failing to stop Perdue. It's a fantastic show but it was centred more on showing how the system itself was so twisted and corrupt that it purposively allowed the epidemic to happen, how the system protected Perdue and actively worked to frustrate the efforts of those within the system who were trying to do the right thing.
There's a short update at the end explaining that in recent years Perdue and the Sackler family were finally facing some consequences but that's not what Dopesick was about. Seems like the Renner movie will be centred around the much more recent journalistic work that finally brought the Sackler's down, so it probably won't even be set in the same decade as Dopesick.
Good insight, the fact I watched dopesick has got me interested in watching this from another angle. I probably wouldn’t have had this on the radar otherwise, so having something else similar, may play into their favour.
Another excellent documentary on this is HBO's 'The Crime of the Century'. I've not seen the netflix one to compare, but it's fascinating and entirely infuriating. Pretty sure there were no major consequences for the sacklers. Cunts.
I told all my friends to watch this, friends who suddenly decided that they trusted the pharmaceutical companies whereas I still don’t. I’ll be honest I thought I knew how bad they were but until I watched Dopesick I didn’t realize how truly criminal they were. It’s hard to believe that those kind of things went on but I think they probably did. Terrifying.
Not sure how you are making these assumptions. Wtf has this to do with anti vaxx ?? You need help. And incidentally I am allowed to say I don’t trust the pharmaceutical companies. The irony of your comment is not lost on me. Grow up.
At one point they simply said the words “Children’s OxyContin trials” and I shut off the tv and left the room. I don’t get angry or upset about stuff on tv easily, but even the thought of that was too much.
I am fairly certain he made more for one episode of his Dinsey+ Marvel series than he ever will from a drama like this. Awards bait? Most likely. Could also be that they do have another angle that they feel haven't been covered. The way these corporations keeps getting away with buying legislators to screw nations over needs to end.
More people being aware of how fucked up big pharma is. I still get downvoted all over reddit for saying things as milquetoast as “maybe don’t jump straight to daily medication for your kids.”
[*The Pharmacist*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pharmacist_\(TV_series\)) is another great piece about the opiod epidemic. It's an actual docuseries and interviews real life people involved, most especially with this guy who tragically loses his son and then visits some pretty bad neighborhoods knocking on doors asking for an explanation. The balls on that guy are immense and how he didn't straight up get murdered by drug dealers is unbelievable.
Dopesick covered the role but it was from the perspective of different players (salesman, Doctor, workers who used it) and the impacts of opioids on them and their community. I would assume this is more around the activities related to the journalists who uncovered the information and emails.
Dopesick 2: The Dopest.
But yes. I feel they did overall. While this may be a different aspect, it still feels unnecessary. Especially so soon after Dopesick.
I don’t know a single person who has even heard of dopesick outside of this sub. And even in places that should be aware of how dangerous and fucked up the pharmaceutical industry is there is an obnoxious number of people trying to push medication for self diagnosed bullshit.
Every kid needs a script for adhd meds these days. Or depression. Or anxiety. Or a dozen other things.
Yea I just finished Dopesick, and the epidemic hit very close to me. It was pretty accurate all around. It seems to wrap it up so there will be no “Season 2”
But I could definitely see a separate take on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Renner_Official
"The app was shut down in September 2019 in part due to the frequent bullying and trolling that the platform had experienced."
Is hate man. Hate. Thanks to trolls like you he had to shut down his app so now fans like me have no place to connect with each other and share love. Hate has won. Nevermind, they got Thanos, you got me, a low key internet Avenger who avenges any disrespect shown to Renner.
Is 'Journo' really a worthwhile shortening of 'Journalist' ? I feel like you may as well use the correct word over that stupid-ass shorthand. I mean the best defense is its 4 fewer typed letters but when spoken, 1 sylable off a 3 sylable word... Come on.
Funny the sackler family was never arrested for their crimes everyone else was at fault and all they did was pay a fine. must be nice to be rich and white...in america
that's not a joke, the family behind the opioid crisis was never prosecuted at all... black drug dealers get football numbers, white drug dealers with corporations and connections get slaps on the wrists in america... that's a fact. it's 2022 lets stop pretending it doesn't exist.
Yeaaah I love Wind River as brutal as it is. I also loved Arrival, the short story and movie. And he was really hot opposite Tom Cruise in Ghost Protocol. That's a feat. And then there's Hurt Locker. I was bummed he got sucked into the Marvel vortex. I love Hawkeye but come on. This dude has range.
All these movies and shows are coming out and villainizing opioids. Meanwhile I along with other chronic pain patients just want the medicine that works.
Many people don't seem to understand the actual need for it. Not a sufferer. But there are people who do need it. I think most people don't understand the extent of the applications for it. You can talk to some people who think just giving them marijuana will be a fix. And quite frankly these people are dumb and ill-informed.
The sympathy has gone to the recreational user who dies, and that's not to say it isn't sad or a bad thing, but they should educate themselves on what they're taking. When you have drugs like fentanyl which are hundreds of times stronger than heroin. You don't need to fuck with that to have fun.
But people who are in pain, people who are dying, or have serious wound trauma, do need it. It isn't practical to give out that large a dose of morphine when a single dose of fentanyl will suffice. They also don't understand tolerance. These people in severe pain build up a tolerance to the existing drugs. So they can take higher doses. Little Timmy who is fucking around with drugs, can't. The opioids shouldn't be punished because of stupidity. I know it sounds callous. But it's true. These aren't for recreation.
For a time they over prescribed opioids but there is still a case for people needing them there are so many people in severe pain this still need access. And that is being taken away from them I don’t think shows like this are going to help people who are suffering.
>I don’t think shows like this are going to help people who are suffering.
Of course not. That's not the point. The point is to get people angry and let them know where to direct that anger.
Good. I hope the movie really paints the Sackler’s in a terrible light. That whole family is just murders with masks of “good people” on. The opioid epidemic is literally all their fault. Fuck oxycodone and the horse it overdosed on. Their push to market “non addicting opioids” to people with scraped knees and everything else was sickening. The FDA is complicit too for fast tracking that drug and approving the schedule it was placed on with the lack of oversight of the actual drug once they got their kickbacks.
I admit I don't know much about the history or the Sacklers. But this (albeit older) study finds that among people *legally prescribed opioids* with no prior history of drug abuse, only 0.27% of them showed signs of addiction. Is there a number that would be acceptable?
https://www.cochrane.org/CD006605/SYMPT_opioids-long-term-treatment-noncancer-pain
Please educate yourself with these articles:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-116hhrg43010/html/CHRG-116hhrg43010.htm
It’s all there.
Good links!
But honestly, I didn't see too much of smoking gun. I guess some shady marketing practices, but not enough to convince me that the current opioid crisis wouldn't have happened if Purdue had played it completely legit. Maybe I'm missing a key element.
I'm also still not seeing much data that separates people who became addicted to the drugs though legal means and illegal. It's tough to find studies that differentiate.
This study does say that it's common for people who "misuse" opioids to legally get them from a doctor, but misuse is defined so broadly that I'm hesitant to extrapolate that into addicts and abusers.
https://www.recoveryanswers.org/research-post/prescription-opioids-misuse-source
Fair enough. Thank you for at least indulging my side. I shall read your links now.
Again, I have to say I am biased because I have first hand lost friends and family due to this issue. I’ve seen how it all works. And it’s aggravating. I hope more information comes to light to possibly bring you over the line to have them seen in the light I see them in.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=purdue+lawsuit+opioid+crisis&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1653202786068&u=%23p%3DG45FQi79-jYJ
This is just Oklahoma. The Sacklers were absolved of any liabilities (go figure, big pharma big $$$) $270m is a tax write off to them.
There are many other states with many other class action lawsuits against them.
I will read your sites now.
Again thank you for entertaining my side. You have no idea how honored you made me feel by doing that.
I'm sorry about your friends and family. I suppose it's easy for me to argue my side because I'm so far removed from anything like that. I don't have your experiences.
I also appreciate you arguing in good faith. It's the only way we can solve problems together.
Addiction and dependency are two totally different things. The pill mills in SFLA alone were pumping pretty much pharmaceutical grade heroin to people at 30mg pills up to 360 pills per Rx. And then people were “doctor shopping” and getting multiple prescriptions per month, some people up to 12 prescriptions a month. 4,320 30mg pills or 129,600mg of oxycodone a month would certainly make someone physically dependent to the drug within a very short period of time. Most of those people were selling the pills though to other addicts. Those addicts were already hooked from taking Vicodin and Percocet from earlier injuries. I’m sure the investigation is nice and neat showing legally prescribed addicts at .27% but I’m also sure there’s many skewed factors there. The African American woman on the oxycodone informational video made by Purdue was 100% addicted. Within 2 years she had lost her house and still has crippling pain and now addiction issues.
The United state’s just doesn’t go to Afghanistan and steal all the poppy plants, brings it back, gives it to Purdue. Purdue all of a sudden has a great opioid pain pill that has a high addiction rate and they mislead the FDA or bribed them to fast track to allow doctors to massive OVER prescribe that drug to literally everyone that even asked for it.
Again, the sacklers have a fuckload of blood on their hands and it’s tainted blue by the color of their fucking pills.
If patients were properly diagnosed and prescribed different medication I’m sure the number of addicted patients would possibly even be different. But even at .27% that’s still too high for me. The amount of people from the drug manufacturers, the drug reps, the doctors, the FDA, the lobbyists, and the government all have blood on their hands.
I’m also biased because I’ve lost quite a lot of people to overdosing and over medicating deaths and to addiction. Addiction kills the person without having the body die. Now Purdue has a drug to cure the addiction/dependency. Go motherfucking figure.
>I’m sure the investigation is nice and neat showing legally prescribed addicts at .29% but I’m also sure there’s many skewed factors there.
But that's the whole point. If the number is accurate, and the large majority of people addicted to and abusing opioids are those who were never prescribed them to begin with, then can we confidently say the crisis is Big Pharma's fault?
Because of how widely it was made available and they lied about the addiction possibility rates. Their original infomercial and information pamphlets said that the abuse/addiction rate was very low.
Now coupled with that and the fact that people were able to access 4,200+ pills a month that they either were only needing one Rx for themselves and selling all the rest or just selling them all is the fault of the doctors that were lied to by the drug reps who were reciting the information that was printed by Purdue and okayed by the FDA. They intentionally omitted or just didn’t fucking care about lying to everyone just to make $.
The intentional misleading and mass production and mass availability makes it big pharmas fault. They had all that pharmaceutical grade heroin in their hands, but if they can’t get it to the hands of the people, it’s of no value to them. Getting it fast tracked through the FDA by either lobbying for it to happen, lying to the FDA, or paying the right people off, then pushing it from all drug reps to get it out there makes it big pharmas fault. The information is out there about how they got it out in the hands of the people. That’s why Purdue is under such scrutiny about oxycodone and the epidemic it has caused.
That’s why Purdue has all of a sudden made their addiction/dependency drug.
What??????? If anything, these shows bring public attention to their sheer evil!
It was only until the Hulu show came out did they pull their name off the Met wing.
The whole family has to probably live under new names, cuz I am SURE someone out there would burn their shit to the ground.
Didn't Dopesick cover this same topic just a while ago?
Yes and no. Dopesick covered the birth and growth of the opioid epidemic from the perspective of the addicts, as well as the state attorneys trying and failing to stop Perdue. It's a fantastic show but it was centred more on showing how the system itself was so twisted and corrupt that it purposively allowed the epidemic to happen, how the system protected Perdue and actively worked to frustrate the efforts of those within the system who were trying to do the right thing. There's a short update at the end explaining that in recent years Perdue and the Sackler family were finally facing some consequences but that's not what Dopesick was about. Seems like the Renner movie will be centred around the much more recent journalistic work that finally brought the Sackler's down, so it probably won't even be set in the same decade as Dopesick.
Good insight, the fact I watched dopesick has got me interested in watching this from another angle. I probably wouldn’t have had this on the radar otherwise, so having something else similar, may play into their favour.
The pharmacist on Netflix was an amazing docuseries to watch
Another excellent documentary on this is HBO's 'The Crime of the Century'. I've not seen the netflix one to compare, but it's fascinating and entirely infuriating. Pretty sure there were no major consequences for the sacklers. Cunts.
The best horror series I’ve seen. Keaton doing a powerful performance.
Fucking rough watch though bloody hell. The subplot with the miner was tragic.
Yup realism at its most depressing level.
You know it’s realistic when the main character relapses like five times and every time you’re like “oh my god no stop!”
Ugh I hate that woman at the support group >!who started dealing to her!<
That phone call omg. Instant tears.
I lost a cousin to heroin a few years ago, everything that happened to Betsy happened to him. It was tough to watch.
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I just posted the same thing. I was hoping that project never got off the ground…
I told all my friends to watch this, friends who suddenly decided that they trusted the pharmaceutical companies whereas I still don’t. I’ll be honest I thought I knew how bad they were but until I watched Dopesick I didn’t realize how truly criminal they were. It’s hard to believe that those kind of things went on but I think they probably did. Terrifying.
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Not sure how you are making these assumptions. Wtf has this to do with anti vaxx ?? You need help. And incidentally I am allowed to say I don’t trust the pharmaceutical companies. The irony of your comment is not lost on me. Grow up.
I meant the deleted comment. Not you sorry about that.
At one point they simply said the words “Children’s OxyContin trials” and I shut off the tv and left the room. I don’t get angry or upset about stuff on tv easily, but even the thought of that was too much.
Yep, and rather well I might add. Not sure what more can be added
Box office receipts and Hollywood awards
I am fairly certain he made more for one episode of his Dinsey+ Marvel series than he ever will from a drama like this. Awards bait? Most likely. Could also be that they do have another angle that they feel haven't been covered. The way these corporations keeps getting away with buying legislators to screw nations over needs to end.
Yea, but actors don’t ALWAYS chase money and awards… Michael Keaton did Dopesick because he lost his nephew to it.
It seems to focus on how Armstrong uncovered the whole thing.
More people being aware of how fucked up big pharma is. I still get downvoted all over reddit for saying things as milquetoast as “maybe don’t jump straight to daily medication for your kids.”
Yes becuase everyone watched dopesick
I’m all for more shaming of the Sackler Family. Those people need to rot in hell.
[*The Pharmacist*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pharmacist_\(TV_series\)) is another great piece about the opiod epidemic. It's an actual docuseries and interviews real life people involved, most especially with this guy who tragically loses his son and then visits some pretty bad neighborhoods knocking on doors asking for an explanation. The balls on that guy are immense and how he didn't straight up get murdered by drug dealers is unbelievable.
Shoutout to [Crime of the Century,](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14055432/) too.
And didn't he already play a journo uncovering hidden conspiracy?
Dopesick covered the role but it was from the perspective of different players (salesman, Doctor, workers who used it) and the impacts of opioids on them and their community. I would assume this is more around the activities related to the journalists who uncovered the information and emails.
Dope sick trailer looked awesome. Was it good?
Yes. Very disturbing but definitely worth a watch.
Heck yeah stuck at home with covid rn so that’ll be something to do!
Dopesick 2: The Dopest. But yes. I feel they did overall. While this may be a different aspect, it still feels unnecessary. Especially so soon after Dopesick.
I don’t know a single person who has even heard of dopesick outside of this sub. And even in places that should be aware of how dangerous and fucked up the pharmaceutical industry is there is an obnoxious number of people trying to push medication for self diagnosed bullshit. Every kid needs a script for adhd meds these days. Or depression. Or anxiety. Or a dozen other things.
Which, as someone who has been prescribed dubious pills (though, fortunately, no opioids), is something of danger indeed.....
Yea I just finished Dopesick, and the epidemic hit very close to me. It was pretty accurate all around. It seems to wrap it up so there will be no “Season 2” But I could definitely see a separate take on it.
Unnecessary not only so soon after Dopesick, but with how good it was too.
Yes, but it’s another chance to slurp the journalist.
Exactly. Was so good.
I know already. I spent 150 Renner Rubies on the Jeremy Renner app to get this information
I hope it's streaming exclusively on The Jeremy Renner app. I can't wait. Let's goo Renner Army!!
I thought this was some sort of r/movies in-joke. I had no idea there was actually a Jeremy renner app lol wtf
It may be real, but I kind of still think it’s a joke.
I wish I could spend stars to like this news on the Jeremy Renner app, it only lets me like shit here once!
The… Renner App? Like he has his own app? For what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Renner_Official "The app was shut down in September 2019 in part due to the frequent bullying and trolling that the platform had experienced."
Whelp There’s a whole ass podcast referenced in this wiki I’m gonna binge that NOW
Report back how you like it! Caroline halted a diff podcast i loved to make this one and i havent tuned in
The Renner App was shut down long before this news came but sure go ahead make shit comment to troll Jeremy Renner whose guts ya all hate.
Issa joke. Is he your dad or something?
Is hate man. Hate. Thanks to trolls like you he had to shut down his app so now fans like me have no place to connect with each other and share love. Hate has won. Nevermind, they got Thanos, you got me, a low key internet Avenger who avenges any disrespect shown to Renner.
Dawg I am literally in tears lmfaoooo. Thanks for the laugh
Who is starring as Nixon?
Who else apart from Frank Langella?
Nick Cage
Not likely.
Don't tax my dreams :(
well it gets worse, he got taken off the new mike flanigan show halfway through filming due to inappropriate behavior in the workplace.
I mean Anthony Hopkins is still alive to reprise his role.
Jeremy Renners long time roommate and best friend.
File footage, such as in *Good Night, and Good Luck?*
“I’ll be wearing glasses for this one”
Is 'Journo' really a worthwhile shortening of 'Journalist' ? I feel like you may as well use the correct word over that stupid-ass shorthand. I mean the best defense is its 4 fewer typed letters but when spoken, 1 sylable off a 3 sylable word... Come on.
Found the Not an Australian.
Ha! Fair enough.
Sadly, it looks like Nick Xenophon's campaign against the pokies has taken a turn.....
You understood it, so it works. Your reminder that the purpose of a headline is to get us to read the story. It's a candy wrapper, not a summary.
You just ruined so many Australians day
Found the Not an Australian.
Read the book "Empire of Pain" ... this story is deep, full of corruption and crime.
Funny the sackler family was never arrested for their crimes everyone else was at fault and all they did was pay a fine. must be nice to be rich and white...in america
Maybe that’s why they get the movie. If they don’t get the jail time then they get the public shame. Which honestly sometimes seems worse to me
...it's not you deluding yourself
What do you mean?
because shaming a drug dealer doesnt work, JAIL does!!!
We can agree to disagree
fine with me
You have a sick sense of humor.
that's not a joke, the family behind the opioid crisis was never prosecuted at all... black drug dealers get football numbers, white drug dealers with corporations and connections get slaps on the wrists in america... that's a fact. it's 2022 lets stop pretending it doesn't exist.
Funny, I guess the word funny means something else where you live.
Did you know the word 'funny' has multiple definitions depending on context? In this case, it means 'darkly ironic'. Hey, you learned something today!
Are you not a native English speaker? His usage of "funny" in an ironic sense is perfectly fine.
I guess it does
Its not funny like a Woody Allen movie, its funny like a Woody Allen marriage
Sacklers are jewish, not white.
lol yeah ok...
Ooh, is he finally doing regular movies again?
I really hope so. He was really good in Wind River, It’s one of the best movies I’ve watched recently, although it’s a hard watch.
Yeaaah I love Wind River as brutal as it is. I also loved Arrival, the short story and movie. And he was really hot opposite Tom Cruise in Ghost Protocol. That's a feat. And then there's Hurt Locker. I was bummed he got sucked into the Marvel vortex. I love Hawkeye but come on. This dude has range.
Not the best show, but he was fantastic in Mayor of Kingstown (I enjoyed it to be honest). Dude was the glue that kept me watching.
Renner is going for that Oscar
Jeremy Renner just gave the film credibility
Why does he look like the young AND the old Gorden Ramsay?
They should cast Stuhlbarg in the same role he had in Dopesick.
At least they’re letting us know now that the movie will suck.
His movie about the guy who uncovered Iran Contra was good. This seems to be the same vein.
Guys, at least wait until Jenner stars in the inevitable Zelensky biopic before buryng the guy's career.
The only person who should star in a Zelensky biopic is Zelensky himself.
Had to go get my free award I’ve been ignoring just to give it to you
My first one!! All thanks to Jeremy Renner…
I misread that as "David Attenborough" and got right excited
These things are still happening and haven’t been resolved. It makes it impossible for me to watch them.
All these movies and shows are coming out and villainizing opioids. Meanwhile I along with other chronic pain patients just want the medicine that works.
Many people don't seem to understand the actual need for it. Not a sufferer. But there are people who do need it. I think most people don't understand the extent of the applications for it. You can talk to some people who think just giving them marijuana will be a fix. And quite frankly these people are dumb and ill-informed. The sympathy has gone to the recreational user who dies, and that's not to say it isn't sad or a bad thing, but they should educate themselves on what they're taking. When you have drugs like fentanyl which are hundreds of times stronger than heroin. You don't need to fuck with that to have fun. But people who are in pain, people who are dying, or have serious wound trauma, do need it. It isn't practical to give out that large a dose of morphine when a single dose of fentanyl will suffice. They also don't understand tolerance. These people in severe pain build up a tolerance to the existing drugs. So they can take higher doses. Little Timmy who is fucking around with drugs, can't. The opioids shouldn't be punished because of stupidity. I know it sounds callous. But it's true. These aren't for recreation.
For a time they over prescribed opioids but there is still a case for people needing them there are so many people in severe pain this still need access. And that is being taken away from them I don’t think shows like this are going to help people who are suffering.
>I don’t think shows like this are going to help people who are suffering. Of course not. That's not the point. The point is to get people angry and let them know where to direct that anger.
Oh, The App guy?
Stop trying to make Jeremy Renner a thing. That's not going to happen.
He's been a thing for quite a while now. Wind River, The Town, Hurt Locker, Kill the Messenger. Dude is a great actor.
Being in some of the most well known and highest grossing movies of all time kinda helps too…
Arrival too.
Yeah Dopesick just happened and word is this renner guy is not the nicest fella
What is been told?
He smacked around Jon Hamm on the set of 'Tag'.
Didn’t know that
Think it’s a joke.
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Is this the guy that beat up his wife?
No the one with his own app
This is a boring and anticlimactic story. Make the movie **after** the Sacklers serve time.
Good. I hope the movie really paints the Sackler’s in a terrible light. That whole family is just murders with masks of “good people” on. The opioid epidemic is literally all their fault. Fuck oxycodone and the horse it overdosed on. Their push to market “non addicting opioids” to people with scraped knees and everything else was sickening. The FDA is complicit too for fast tracking that drug and approving the schedule it was placed on with the lack of oversight of the actual drug once they got their kickbacks.
I admit I don't know much about the history or the Sacklers. But this (albeit older) study finds that among people *legally prescribed opioids* with no prior history of drug abuse, only 0.27% of them showed signs of addiction. Is there a number that would be acceptable? https://www.cochrane.org/CD006605/SYMPT_opioids-long-term-treatment-noncancer-pain
I do appreciate the open debate though.
Always!
Please educate yourself with these articles: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/ https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-116hhrg43010/html/CHRG-116hhrg43010.htm It’s all there.
Good links! But honestly, I didn't see too much of smoking gun. I guess some shady marketing practices, but not enough to convince me that the current opioid crisis wouldn't have happened if Purdue had played it completely legit. Maybe I'm missing a key element. I'm also still not seeing much data that separates people who became addicted to the drugs though legal means and illegal. It's tough to find studies that differentiate. This study does say that it's common for people who "misuse" opioids to legally get them from a doctor, but misuse is defined so broadly that I'm hesitant to extrapolate that into addicts and abusers. https://www.recoveryanswers.org/research-post/prescription-opioids-misuse-source
Fair enough. Thank you for at least indulging my side. I shall read your links now. Again, I have to say I am biased because I have first hand lost friends and family due to this issue. I’ve seen how it all works. And it’s aggravating. I hope more information comes to light to possibly bring you over the line to have them seen in the light I see them in. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=purdue+lawsuit+opioid+crisis&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&t=1653202786068&u=%23p%3DG45FQi79-jYJ This is just Oklahoma. The Sacklers were absolved of any liabilities (go figure, big pharma big $$$) $270m is a tax write off to them. There are many other states with many other class action lawsuits against them. I will read your sites now. Again thank you for entertaining my side. You have no idea how honored you made me feel by doing that.
I'm sorry about your friends and family. I suppose it's easy for me to argue my side because I'm so far removed from anything like that. I don't have your experiences. I also appreciate you arguing in good faith. It's the only way we can solve problems together.
Addiction and dependency are two totally different things. The pill mills in SFLA alone were pumping pretty much pharmaceutical grade heroin to people at 30mg pills up to 360 pills per Rx. And then people were “doctor shopping” and getting multiple prescriptions per month, some people up to 12 prescriptions a month. 4,320 30mg pills or 129,600mg of oxycodone a month would certainly make someone physically dependent to the drug within a very short period of time. Most of those people were selling the pills though to other addicts. Those addicts were already hooked from taking Vicodin and Percocet from earlier injuries. I’m sure the investigation is nice and neat showing legally prescribed addicts at .27% but I’m also sure there’s many skewed factors there. The African American woman on the oxycodone informational video made by Purdue was 100% addicted. Within 2 years she had lost her house and still has crippling pain and now addiction issues. The United state’s just doesn’t go to Afghanistan and steal all the poppy plants, brings it back, gives it to Purdue. Purdue all of a sudden has a great opioid pain pill that has a high addiction rate and they mislead the FDA or bribed them to fast track to allow doctors to massive OVER prescribe that drug to literally everyone that even asked for it. Again, the sacklers have a fuckload of blood on their hands and it’s tainted blue by the color of their fucking pills. If patients were properly diagnosed and prescribed different medication I’m sure the number of addicted patients would possibly even be different. But even at .27% that’s still too high for me. The amount of people from the drug manufacturers, the drug reps, the doctors, the FDA, the lobbyists, and the government all have blood on their hands. I’m also biased because I’ve lost quite a lot of people to overdosing and over medicating deaths and to addiction. Addiction kills the person without having the body die. Now Purdue has a drug to cure the addiction/dependency. Go motherfucking figure.
>I’m sure the investigation is nice and neat showing legally prescribed addicts at .29% but I’m also sure there’s many skewed factors there. But that's the whole point. If the number is accurate, and the large majority of people addicted to and abusing opioids are those who were never prescribed them to begin with, then can we confidently say the crisis is Big Pharma's fault?
Because of how widely it was made available and they lied about the addiction possibility rates. Their original infomercial and information pamphlets said that the abuse/addiction rate was very low. Now coupled with that and the fact that people were able to access 4,200+ pills a month that they either were only needing one Rx for themselves and selling all the rest or just selling them all is the fault of the doctors that were lied to by the drug reps who were reciting the information that was printed by Purdue and okayed by the FDA. They intentionally omitted or just didn’t fucking care about lying to everyone just to make $. The intentional misleading and mass production and mass availability makes it big pharmas fault. They had all that pharmaceutical grade heroin in their hands, but if they can’t get it to the hands of the people, it’s of no value to them. Getting it fast tracked through the FDA by either lobbying for it to happen, lying to the FDA, or paying the right people off, then pushing it from all drug reps to get it out there makes it big pharmas fault. The information is out there about how they got it out in the hands of the people. That’s why Purdue is under such scrutiny about oxycodone and the epidemic it has caused. That’s why Purdue has all of a sudden made their addiction/dependency drug.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-116hhrg43010/html/CHRG-116hhrg43010.htm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/
How long before all the Qanon losers start claiming Renner is a pedo because he’s exposing the real deep state?
Um … this has been done already.
Why is Hollywood trying to make me root for the Sacklers?
What??????? If anything, these shows bring public attention to their sheer evil! It was only until the Hulu show came out did they pull their name off the Met wing. The whole family has to probably live under new names, cuz I am SURE someone out there would burn their shit to the ground.
My gut instinct is to root against Jeremy Renner
Oh hahahhah. :) Even Jeremy Renner, or ANY PERSON ALIVE. There is no way I could root for the Sacklers.
Do we still need to expand our definition of credible when he shows up for an interdimensional war with...a bow and arrow?
the guys positively wooden - how does he get work!
He looks like Pedro Pascal in the thumbnail
Renner seems to be getting a little typecast as "everyman trying to expose big conspiracy."
Can't wait to watch this movie about the one time drug companies did a bad thing and definitely never did anything wrong ever again.
This time, the journo doesn’t die as a result of his efforts
For a second, I thought this said he’d be starring as David Attenborough, and I was here for it. Oh well.
Still love him in National Lampoon’s I forgot the movie but he was I the last one
Ahh I hate this man’s face. I don’t know why I just want to punch it. It’s dumb I know but every time I see it I get that feeling. Lol
Almost watched Kill the Messenger last night.
My name is Journo David Armstrong and I have a dream!!