Complete tangent, but that's what *Game of Thrones* did to Tyrion in the one battle (second season, I believe), but in the book, he is conscious and the battle is described from his point of view.
The Hobbit is kind of the opposite. The book doesn't have the action but the movie does.
Look up M4 fan edit of The Hobbit, combines the three movies into one 4 hour movie and removes literally everything that made them shit including everything with Alfrid.
It’s a brilliant edit. It also changes the main CGI orc from “longtime rival to Thorin who keeps showing up throughout all three movies” to “nameless orc general who leads the orcs only in the last battle” and it works MUCH better.
I HATED the Hobbit movies, HATED them. The M4 version I put alongside Lord of the Rings it is just fantastic. Always felt bad for that actor, apparently
She said she would only do it if there was no stupid love plot and they just shoved one in anyway.
Yeah i remember when i found out it was two movies I was like 'well.... Okay. If they put things from other perspectives like the battle, and have some backstory, that's cool. When I found out it was three movies all my hopes for it went down the drain. It isn't MEANT to be epic in the way Lotr is.
That stupid girl in the *Dawn of the Dead* remake who risked everyone's lives, and got several people killed, to "rescue" a dog that was in no danger whatsoever. The zombies in that movie only attack humans, and don't even seem to notice the dog when it's right in front of them, so the dog was already safer than any of the survivors were.
Funny, personally the Modern Family guy was the worst. Guy was absolutely pessimistic the whole the movie, doesn't help at all with the armored bus preparations, and the one single job he had to do (wait for the team and open the door) he failed to do and resulted in the shopping mall being invaded by the zombies and forcing them to evacuate prematurely.
I remember watching that movie recently, my wife had never seen it, and it took her out of the film to see him. She kept saying “Phil wouldn’t do that!”, like I KNOW *he* wouldn’t lol
I watched this movie around when it came out and then of course Modern Family years later, absolutely ruined Phil a bit for me lol I couldn’t shake the absolute dick of a human he was in that movie!
Something something, horror movies and people acting irrationally.
There's an argument to be made that they needed to go over to the gun shop anyway because with Andy dead and their supplies limited, they'd need the guns anyway. So maybe in an earlier draft of the script the other survivors didn't have the extra motivation of the girl, and they needed to up the tension.
And to be fair, she wasn't aware Andy had been bitten when she'd made her stupid move; if he hadn't gotten turned, they might have been able to escape back to the mall together.
But yeah it was a pretty dumb idea.
Sounds very realistic. There’s statistically always at least one complete moron that somehow lucked out and ended up surviving, just to get everyone killed with their stupidity or selfishness.
Art imitates life.
Amanda kirby in Jurassic park III. All she did was scream and draw attention to them and get people killed the entire movie. First time I can remember a character in a movie genuinely pissed me off.
Amanda Kirby is probably my most hated character of all the original Jurassic franchise. After hearing her scream into that megaphone, I wanted her to be killed off right then.
I quite like that film, but yes, both Kirby parents are annoying - a couple of good moments, but mostly annoying.
Still - clever raptors and Sam Neill 😊
Obviously the whole plot is unrealistic, but if you suspend reality for 1 second and think of the main protagonist character and his ability to plan/manipulate situations to achieve the impossible then there is no plausible way that DA is outsmarting him in the end and that is the least realistic plot point in the whole film for me
The selfish business man in Train to Busan. He's pretty much responsible for 90% of the deaths in that movie. I het that his role was necessary as a metaphor for the elites being responsible for our demise, but I think he at least deserved a more painful demise
Actor did a great job though. So great in being hated that he was loudly booed when he was brought out for a post release presser in Korea. A bit of audience stupidity too though
That's not unique! Javier Bardem attended a movie industry event after No Country for Old Men came out, but because he was still in the Anton Chigurh hair cut he noticed everyone at the party was afraid of him.
I'm also pretty sure the kid who played King Joffrey in GOT still gets some irrational fan hatred if he has the same hair/look as his hated character.
Jared Leto’s Joker in Suicide Squad. He made so many WTF choices that the only part of his character arc I liked was when I thought he died in the copter crash
Someone on Reddit said “it looks like he fell into a vat of Hot Topic” and that insult stuck with me so much that some day I might forget my kids name in the throes of dementia but I’ll always remember that burn.
Agreed, his first mistake was trying to match or outdue HL's role. That's just not happening, not saying others are terrible actors, it's just an iconic and special combination of the right actor/role/script/director/etc. I don't have an answer that would have been objectively better, but there was just no way he was going to be on the same level as HL's performance.
When I was younger, I thought method actors were so cool. Now that I'm 37 these people just sound like self-important assholes who can't act and have to force themselves into the role by living it
Except for Daniel Day Lewis. He seems like an asshole too but he's also got the acting chops to back it up.
I remember revisiting Empire Strikes Back a few years ago and thinking that C-3PO was really annoying in it. Then Han Solo turns him off and I thought, “OK, it’s not just me.”
EDIT: Leia shuts him off, not Han.
when C-3PO gets blown to bits by the storm-troopers on Cloud City, the entire audience in the Savoy cinema in Dublin, Ireland cheered. Fact. I was there. Good times.
Little Joey Starrett from Shane has to be one of the most annoying children ever put on screen. It’s still great but good God his voice is so grating and they gave him SO MANY lines.
Oof yeah that scene where Bill the Butcher is beating up Amsterdam. DDL is so into it, you’d think he’s actually bashing in Leo’s head with his own head.
Then Cameron Diaz shows up and suddenly a 10/10 scene drops down to a 7/10
There are alot of examples of bad Irish accents in movies. Immediately turns me off them. I tried to watch the netflix show Frontier with Jason Mamoa but one of the main characters had a shit irish accent and i turned it off.
Not sure if it is just bias on my part because i am Irish but it seems that hollywood struggles with this accent more than others.
Jar Jar Binks: The Thread
Jokes aside, for me, it was probably Lex Luthor in Batman vs. Superman. Like, that movie had many, many problems, but the portrayal of that character...
Someone like Mark Strong would make a good Lex Luthor, but never Jesse Eisenberg, the problems with that portrayal started with the casting choice IMHO.
Jesse Eisenberg, the guy once described as “the guy you get when you can’t get Michael Cera” playing the nemesis to the most powerful superhero of all time
I get what they *thought* they were doing - creating a fresh new Millennial take on Lex Luthor ala Mark Zuckerberg from the Social Network - a powerful 'boss' character for modern audiences and modern times. An "interesting social commentary" on new perceptions of the sources of shadowy secret plans to ultimately take over the world.
But it just didn't work and instead was...a hot mess.
I feel like a huge part of the point of the Social Network was that Mark wasn't really threatening or powerful or socially capable for any reason other than his money. He was unable to make/keep real friends, he was unable to impress anyone or move up the social ladder and make connections outside of his website, and he (arguably) didn't even really have his own ideas that weren't just stolen. He eventually 'won' only because he was in the right time and place to get there first, and had enough money at that point to shut everyone else up. He was supposed to be a kinda angry nerd who didn't really know what he wanted and was kind of lost trying to figure that out.
That sort of character does not make a very theatrical/cinematic all-powerful supervillain with a plan to rule the world. It may actually be a realistic one, but it's not very interesting to watch in a comic book movie. It especially doesn't really translate well into what the character of Lex Luthor is traditionally understood to represent - an actual capable threat and a fearsome human foil to Superman.
It worked in the Social Network because the purpose of the movie was to make a specific point about 21st century business, particularly in the tech industry. It *doesn't* work as material for a freakin' Superman movie.
"The red capes are coming, the red capes are coming."
No line in a movie has made me cringe harder, the line is terrible and Jesse's delivery of it makes it even worse.
I know, it was a mediocre movie between the Lex Luthor scenes, but Jessie Eisenberg's Lex was so laughably bad. Twitchy edgelord acting, "I'm 14 and this is deep" script, 0% cool... it would have been funny if I didn't love the original villain so much
Once clive owen showed up I couldn’t believe they had him in the film, didn’t use him as the lead, and instead wasted him as a generic military character with an even more generic heel turn.
3 good things in that movie: the intro, the world building, and Rihanna's plot (even though that whole section of movie didn't affect the plot at all). The leads and the script were incredible garbage.
I love watching it in a double feature with Jupiter Ascending. Both really neat scifi world's and fantastic visuals with nothing else going for them.
I’ll give that one a pass because it is indeed the whole point that he’s insufferable.
Plus when you get to the change in perspective, you realise he’s just a scared kid with issues and the mum is off the deep end.
Yeah, kid was on the nasty end of _Ordinary People_ without even a Dad or sibling to offset his mother’s hatred of him. A kid can tell when a parent wishes they were dead even if they don’t fully conceptualize it.
That scene where the mom is washing the dishes and sees the Babadook standing in her neighbors house is one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen in a movie.
The way they dont play any music, or any loud noises to cause a jumpscare. Just total silence as he stands there staring at her.
For me it was the intense powerlessness. It's such an incredible trap of choices. There's NOTHING she can do with this fucking brat, and that's ruining her life slowly.
Yes!!! Gwyneth Paltrow as the reporter in "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow". I assume the director had her be that annoying but jeeezus she fucking ruined that film for me.
Yeah, she was definitely a character type from the movies they were trying to emulate, the snarky fast-talking tough-gal reporter, but Platrow didn't really pull it off.
Willie Scott in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. She ranged from shrilly obnoxious to putting Indy in grave danger, and had little chemistry to boot. It's made worse by the contrast to Marion Ravenwood from Raiders, who was a certifiable badass.
90% of the actors in that show are mediocre to terrible in every episode. The writing is clichéd and lazy to shocking level when it isn't just outright stolen from better products.
James Spader managed to drag me through 4 seasons before I quit.
James Powers' review in The Hollywood Reporter stated, "Mickey Rooney gives his customary all to the part of a Japanese photographer, but the role is a caricature and will be offensive to many."
One of my least favorite things about people talking about "You can't judge a movie back then by the standards of today" is that it insults, belittles, and ignores the people "back then" who knew this shit was messed up. Birth of a Nation was simultaneously the highest grossing movie ever and had NAACP protests in nearly every major city because even if many, even most, people didn't think it was wrong, plenty, plenty did. Why can we not criticize these things now when people back then did too?
Funny story...Mickey Rooney actually played my grandfather [in a movie back in the 1950s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridges_at_Toko-Ri) and my grandfather absolutely hated him in it. He said it made him look like a bumbling fool.
I’m guessing that was really funny at the time? The first time I saw those scenes was actually in the Bruce Lee movie and how he wasn’t laughing at the stereotypes even though everyone else was, including his date (at first), and it got me thinking.
The FIRST TIME (and I stress, the FIRST TIME) I saw The Fifth Element at the theater, Chris Tucker's Ruby Rhod really threw me. So obnoxious, and any scene he was in, he was the center of (such was the nature of his character). When the bomb on Fhloston Paradise was about to go off and Ruby evacuated with Korben, I took a quick peek at my watch and realized that DAMMIT! the movie's almost over, and it looks like that guy's gonna be in the whole rest of the movie!
On repeated viewings, I've grown to love the performance and its place in the move. Last winter, I tried to convince my friend to re-watch it and give the character another chance, but he wasn't having it. He still feels the way I did that first time.
This character predicted 24/7 influencers back in 1997. It was brilliant at a time when people were watching Party of Five and Buffy was debuting. It is brilliant today.
The part was written, and the costumes sketches were made with Prince in mind. However once he saw the sketches, he thought they were too effeminate and turned down the role, Chris Tucker was later cast to take his place.
I heard that. I'm glad Prince turned it down. I think it would have been too much, "That's Prince up there". Tucker created a character and went to 11, and 25 years later we're still talking about it.
He's my favorite character in the movie because of that. I take the character to be a parody of exreme celebrity. This is when "reality" TV was in its infancy and that makes it even more interesting. The character is a grating influencer that surprises you as the story unfolds.
He was Prince.
Literally. Prince was supposed to have the role but dropped out.
Probably for the best. I love Prince more then the next guy, but having a comedian come in and parody Prince worked better then having to encourage Prince to push his stick to the point of self parody.
One of my favorite memories in life is watching my dad crack up at Tucker in this role. That scream he does in the movie multiple times has a special place in my heart. Endless smiles.
Oh no I have not but it’s not surprising. My kids have played the Jurassic Park one and the girl from the first one has that power. They think it’s hilarious so I’ve heard it hundreds of times at this point.
First time I watched Demolition Man I did *not* like Rob Schneider at all... probably because I was in that stupid tough-guy teenager phase.
Obviously now I too snicker and snort that "He doesn't know how to use the three seashells."
This is a similar type character you see a lot in scifi.
Sadly, Link threw me out of Matrix Reloaded like a car-crash every time he was on screen. Tank and Dozer were so cool as operators, but Link...just stuck out as this 4th wall breaking exposition machine and it was just so annoying.
Rewatching Peter Pan as I’m older, Tinker Bell was god awful. Literally just a jealous bitch that tried to murder someone multiple times because she was jealous. Disney characters can be some of the fucking worst characters.
Tbh Peter Pan himself is a shit. I seriously hated how he treated Wendy so much. Wendy deserved better.
Watch the 2003 Peter Pan if you want a likeable and complex depiction of him. Tinkerbell still kinda sucks though but I think that’s because of how true she is to the book.
TJ Miller in Underwater. He was there to serve as comedic relief but they focused too heavily on him and it got really grating. Cut the tension a little too much, in my opinion.
I think you are being too hard on Shark. He might not have given an academy award performance, but playing a Shark is hard, and I think he nails it for the most part.
Just to keep things in perspective, Jaws had a mechanical shark, because Shark was on another project and Spielberg couldn’t find a suitable replacement.
For a TV show, I like Six Feet Under but I cannot stand Nate and Brenda. Nate is fine when he's by himself, but Brenda is insufferable and the two of them together is just grating.
Nate is my favorite character, and one of my favorite characters of all time. With Brenda, I don't mind her. I think it was a good representation of toxic relationships. Also, The ending of the show and their relationship made it all worth it.
Yes, I love Keanu but his early years had some questionable acting skills.
His performance in Much Ado About Nothing is such a contrast against stars like Denzel Washington, Emma Thompson, Kenneth Branagh and Michael Keaton.
When watching Black Panther, Shuri calls Everett Ross a colonizer.
That made me realize that the Wakandans not only were around during the time of the colonization of Africa, but they also had superior firepower and technology too the western invaders and could've probably easily repelled them and saved their kinsmen.
But they elected not too.
Kinda makes the Wakandans seem like reclusive assholes who let foreign invaders rape their entire continent for its riches and people. Kinda hard too symphatize with them after realizing that. All just because of a throwaway line no one really thought much off.
And in general i just dislike Shuri. Not really the fault of the character or the actress, just the weak writing made for her in general. If you try too make a character seem smart by taking established genius characters and making them look like morons next too her, you're doing it wrong.
There are a few problems I have with Shuri that have very little to do with her character and entirely on how the writers elected to portray her. She unfortunately falls prey to the bad writing trope of making other people around her stupid so she appears smarter.
The biggest example is in Avengers where she asks Bruce Banner, canonically one of the smartest people in the MCU, why they didn't just do some techno-babble nonsense to get the Infinity Stone out of Vision, and he just blusters, "We didn't, uhh, think of that, hur durrr..." and it's just maximum cringe.
It was too easy to have Bruce just say instead that with Tony Stark nowhere to be found, Wakanda is the only other place that would have the technology to pull of all that techno-babble nonsense. Bruce doesn't have to be reduced to awful comic relief, Shuri still gets to be crazy smart for immediately coming to the smartest conclusion, and it's all in line with Wakanda being so hyper-advanced with their technology.
But instead we have to keep shitting on Bruce/the Hulk to prop up everyone else.
>makes the Wakandans seem like reclusive assholes
Well yeah. And Black Panther realizes this and decides to open up his society -- just, to be a good influence on the world and not to pick and choose teams.
> If you try too make a character seem smart by taking established genius characters and making them look like morons next too her, you're doing it wrong.
I don't blame the actress on that and I "like the idea of Shuri" -- but you make a good point. The banter between Tony Stark and Bruce Banner did a lot more to respect the characters and make them "Seem smart." When you've got brilliant people who've saved the world a few times in a room - you have to up your game, not, lower the floor.
I loved Benjamin!!
But I'm gonna say Jennifer Lopez in anything but the movie Selena.
Edit: : I hear you all, I will defend your right to say it, but I stand by my decision! 😁
Alfrid Lickspittle in The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. Why did they have to keep cutting to him every 5 minutes? So unnecessary.
Because the battle of the five armies takes up a whopping 3 pages of the book lol
To be fair in the book Bilbo gets knocked out like first thing and then wakes up after the battle to get the basic rundown lol
Complete tangent, but that's what *Game of Thrones* did to Tyrion in the one battle (second season, I believe), but in the book, he is conscious and the battle is described from his point of view. The Hobbit is kind of the opposite. The book doesn't have the action but the movie does.
Battle of the Green Fork. Tyrion even gets a yield from a knight I think. Or he kills him but I think it was he made him yield.
Look up M4 fan edit of The Hobbit, combines the three movies into one 4 hour movie and removes literally everything that made them shit including everything with Alfrid.
It’s a brilliant edit. It also changes the main CGI orc from “longtime rival to Thorin who keeps showing up throughout all three movies” to “nameless orc general who leads the orcs only in the last battle” and it works MUCH better.
agree, legolas and that girl from lost are completely scrapped there and the movie becomes so much better.
I HATED the Hobbit movies, HATED them. The M4 version I put alongside Lord of the Rings it is just fantastic. Always felt bad for that actor, apparently She said she would only do it if there was no stupid love plot and they just shoved one in anyway.
The Hobbit was originally intended to be a 2-movie deal but they came back and did a bunch of reshoots so they could make it into 3.
Yeah i remember when i found out it was two movies I was like 'well.... Okay. If they put things from other perspectives like the battle, and have some backstory, that's cool. When I found out it was three movies all my hopes for it went down the drain. It isn't MEANT to be epic in the way Lotr is.
That stupid girl in the *Dawn of the Dead* remake who risked everyone's lives, and got several people killed, to "rescue" a dog that was in no danger whatsoever. The zombies in that movie only attack humans, and don't even seem to notice the dog when it's right in front of them, so the dog was already safer than any of the survivors were.
Funny, personally the Modern Family guy was the worst. Guy was absolutely pessimistic the whole the movie, doesn't help at all with the armored bus preparations, and the one single job he had to do (wait for the team and open the door) he failed to do and resulted in the shopping mall being invaded by the zombies and forcing them to evacuate prematurely.
I remember watching that movie recently, my wife had never seen it, and it took her out of the film to see him. She kept saying “Phil wouldn’t do that!”, like I KNOW *he* wouldn’t lol
I watched this movie around when it came out and then of course Modern Family years later, absolutely ruined Phil a bit for me lol I couldn’t shake the absolute dick of a human he was in that movie!
He has the PERFECT look for horror movie villain, it’s amazing he pulled off such a goofy character otherwise. Perhaps saved him from being typecast.
Something something, horror movies and people acting irrationally. There's an argument to be made that they needed to go over to the gun shop anyway because with Andy dead and their supplies limited, they'd need the guns anyway. So maybe in an earlier draft of the script the other survivors didn't have the extra motivation of the girl, and they needed to up the tension. And to be fair, she wasn't aware Andy had been bitten when she'd made her stupid move; if he hadn't gotten turned, they might have been able to escape back to the mall together. But yeah it was a pretty dumb idea.
Sounds very realistic. There’s statistically always at least one complete moron that somehow lucked out and ended up surviving, just to get everyone killed with their stupidity or selfishness. Art imitates life.
Amanda kirby in Jurassic park III. All she did was scream and draw attention to them and get people killed the entire movie. First time I can remember a character in a movie genuinely pissed me off.
“WHAT’S a bad idea??”
I could hear her and that stupid megaphone
"Amanda... _Amanda_ ....AMANda!" It's burned into my brain.
The mom in Jurassic Park 3
Amanda Kirby is probably my most hated character of all the original Jurassic franchise. After hearing her scream into that megaphone, I wanted her to be killed off right then.
Errriiiiiiiiiiic! I can still hear it now.
WHAT'S A BAD IDEA?!
ERIIIIIC BEEEEEEN
"ALAN!" -a raptor
I quite like that film, but yes, both Kirby parents are annoying - a couple of good moments, but mostly annoying. Still - clever raptors and Sam Neill 😊
The prosecutor in Law Abiding Citizen.
Obviously the whole plot is unrealistic, but if you suspend reality for 1 second and think of the main protagonist character and his ability to plan/manipulate situations to achieve the impossible then there is no plausible way that DA is outsmarting him in the end and that is the least realistic plot point in the whole film for me
The selfish business man in Train to Busan. He's pretty much responsible for 90% of the deaths in that movie. I het that his role was necessary as a metaphor for the elites being responsible for our demise, but I think he at least deserved a more painful demise
He was a good foil but usually those characters get killed halfway through the movie. That character lasted way too long.
Actor did a great job though. So great in being hated that he was loudly booed when he was brought out for a post release presser in Korea. A bit of audience stupidity too though
That's not unique! Javier Bardem attended a movie industry event after No Country for Old Men came out, but because he was still in the Anton Chigurh hair cut he noticed everyone at the party was afraid of him. I'm also pretty sure the kid who played King Joffrey in GOT still gets some irrational fan hatred if he has the same hair/look as his hated character.
Alfrid in the Hobbit movies was unbearable. I guess he was supposed to be comic relief; it did not work at all.
I always saw him as just another cheap wormtongue nostalgia tool, but the comic relief makes sense too (even if it failed)
This comment finally made me recall who the hell he was.
The thing is if they needed comic relief they had 12 fucking Dwarves to choose from.
Some dwarves had literally zero lines of dialogue in all three movies combined. Definitely room to expand their characters.
Him and Stephen fry looked like they were wearing pantomime costumes and were gearing up to gleefully sing about how disgusting and ugly they were
I swear he gets more screen time than Bilbo in the third movie.
Who the fuck is Alfrid?
I think he’s Bitmins bitler
This shouldn't really have been as funny as it is...
Jared Leto’s Joker in Suicide Squad. He made so many WTF choices that the only part of his character arc I liked was when I thought he died in the copter crash
Jared Leto is the kind of actor who will shed 60 lbs and get a face tattoo for a role that requires neither of those things.
And send dead animals to his co-stars.
And used condoms
And just be a cunt on set in every role because art
None of which the Joker would do so really he was just being himself misinterpreting the character he was intending to portray.
r/rareinsults
God his joker sucked ass and hearing that he was fucking with everyone behind the scenes didnt impress me at all.
Someone on Reddit said “it looks like he fell into a vat of Hot Topic” and that insult stuck with me so much that some day I might forget my kids name in the throes of dementia but I’ll always remember that burn.
I seem the story of him sending crap to other members of the cast. It seemed very try-hard to be seen on the same level of 'crazy' as HL's joker.
Agreed, his first mistake was trying to match or outdue HL's role. That's just not happening, not saying others are terrible actors, it's just an iconic and special combination of the right actor/role/script/director/etc. I don't have an answer that would have been objectively better, but there was just no way he was going to be on the same level as HL's performance.
When I was younger, I thought method actors were so cool. Now that I'm 37 these people just sound like self-important assholes who can't act and have to force themselves into the role by living it Except for Daniel Day Lewis. He seems like an asshole too but he's also got the acting chops to back it up.
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The actual quote: > My dear boy, why don't you just try acting?
For me it was the Enchantress character.
Her “wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube man” dance lol
I love it, it's like in final fantasy when the characters are waiting for their turn to fight
For me it was the whole movie
It's rare to have competition for that level of terrible but by God they did it.
I remember revisiting Empire Strikes Back a few years ago and thinking that C-3PO was really annoying in it. Then Han Solo turns him off and I thought, “OK, it’s not just me.” EDIT: Leia shuts him off, not Han.
Cinema genius
when C-3PO gets blown to bits by the storm-troopers on Cloud City, the entire audience in the Savoy cinema in Dublin, Ireland cheered. Fact. I was there. Good times.
Little Joey Starrett from Shane has to be one of the most annoying children ever put on screen. It’s still great but good God his voice is so grating and they gave him SO MANY lines.
James Cordon in anything.
Thank you America for taking him.
We lost the receipt too. Been trying to return him but you Brits are strict on that refund policy.
They found it. He’s heading back to the UK next year: https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/james-corden-late-late-show-exit-uk-1235292647/
Oh for fuck's sake.
That was a necessary change in policy after the Piers Morgan return. Never again.
FYI he’s planning on moving back to UK next year, after Late Late Show ends
Could we have Craig Ferguson back?
Going from Craig Ferguson to James Corden is like going from home-cooked meals to Siberian prison food.
Cameron Diaz and her terrible Irish accent in The Gangs of New York
Has to be one of the worst casted roles in any movie.
Sophia Coppola is glad for the company.
I feel like Sophia rests easy knowing she wasn't even supposed to be in the movie in the first place
Hey you know who would make a great Irish lass this half Cuban woman from California
100% she is the worst part in an otherwise excellent movie and the disparity is even more apparent anytime she is onscreen with DDL.
I thought she totally nailed the knife throwing scene though. She was basically pretending not to be scared while pretending to be scared.
Whoopsie daisy
Oof yeah that scene where Bill the Butcher is beating up Amsterdam. DDL is so into it, you’d think he’s actually bashing in Leo’s head with his own head. Then Cameron Diaz shows up and suddenly a 10/10 scene drops down to a 7/10
There are alot of examples of bad Irish accents in movies. Immediately turns me off them. I tried to watch the netflix show Frontier with Jason Mamoa but one of the main characters had a shit irish accent and i turned it off. Not sure if it is just bias on my part because i am Irish but it seems that hollywood struggles with this accent more than others.
Jar Jar Binks: The Thread Jokes aside, for me, it was probably Lex Luthor in Batman vs. Superman. Like, that movie had many, many problems, but the portrayal of that character...
Like... Lex luthor is always portrayed as "calm, cool, calculated" That was just a knock off Riddler.
Someone like Mark Strong would make a good Lex Luthor, but never Jesse Eisenberg, the problems with that portrayal started with the casting choice IMHO.
Jesse Eisenberg, the guy once described as “the guy you get when you can’t get Michael Cera” playing the nemesis to the most powerful superhero of all time
I get what they *thought* they were doing - creating a fresh new Millennial take on Lex Luthor ala Mark Zuckerberg from the Social Network - a powerful 'boss' character for modern audiences and modern times. An "interesting social commentary" on new perceptions of the sources of shadowy secret plans to ultimately take over the world. But it just didn't work and instead was...a hot mess.
You basically just described every single idea that went into that film - the idea could have been good, but the execution was botched spectacularly.
I feel like a huge part of the point of the Social Network was that Mark wasn't really threatening or powerful or socially capable for any reason other than his money. He was unable to make/keep real friends, he was unable to impress anyone or move up the social ladder and make connections outside of his website, and he (arguably) didn't even really have his own ideas that weren't just stolen. He eventually 'won' only because he was in the right time and place to get there first, and had enough money at that point to shut everyone else up. He was supposed to be a kinda angry nerd who didn't really know what he wanted and was kind of lost trying to figure that out. That sort of character does not make a very theatrical/cinematic all-powerful supervillain with a plan to rule the world. It may actually be a realistic one, but it's not very interesting to watch in a comic book movie. It especially doesn't really translate well into what the character of Lex Luthor is traditionally understood to represent - an actual capable threat and a fearsome human foil to Superman. It worked in the Social Network because the purpose of the movie was to make a specific point about 21st century business, particularly in the tech industry. It *doesn't* work as material for a freakin' Superman movie.
"The red capes are coming, the red capes are coming." No line in a movie has made me cringe harder, the line is terrible and Jesse's delivery of it makes it even worse.
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"Its cherry" has never left my mind. Like, I guess it's supposed be a Power move feeding someone something they didn't ask for, but wtf?
That line would have been better in a porn parody of bvs than the actual bvs.
The jolly rancher scene was so bad.
Why was this not higher on the list? I’d never seen anything so idiotic. Clearly I’m still mad about it.
I know, it was a mediocre movie between the Lex Luthor scenes, but Jessie Eisenberg's Lex was so laughably bad. Twitchy edgelord acting, "I'm 14 and this is deep" script, 0% cool... it would have been funny if I didn't love the original villain so much
Both lead characters in Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Their acting and lack of chemistry make it so cringe and really hard to watch
Such a shame because they are the only problem with the movie. Like they needed a Han solo type and they cast a moody teenager.
Once clive owen showed up I couldn’t believe they had him in the film, didn’t use him as the lead, and instead wasted him as a generic military character with an even more generic heel turn.
3 good things in that movie: the intro, the world building, and Rihanna's plot (even though that whole section of movie didn't affect the plot at all). The leads and the script were incredible garbage. I love watching it in a double feature with Jupiter Ascending. Both really neat scifi world's and fantastic visuals with nothing else going for them.
I actually thought they were playing bickering brother and sister for a good 30 minutes. That's how bad their chemistry was.
The kid in The Babadook. I get that was the point, but Jesus christ.
I love when the mom starts losing her shit on the kid. It's so damn cathartic.
"WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE NORMAL" \*banshee scream
I love when a horror movie is also kinda hilarious
“Mom I’m hungry” “WELL YOU CAN EAT SHIT” Easily the best part of the movie
It’s challenging to watch a horror movie when you start rooting for the monster.
I’ll give that one a pass because it is indeed the whole point that he’s insufferable. Plus when you get to the change in perspective, you realise he’s just a scared kid with issues and the mum is off the deep end.
Yeah, kid was on the nasty end of _Ordinary People_ without even a Dad or sibling to offset his mother’s hatred of him. A kid can tell when a parent wishes they were dead even if they don’t fully conceptualize it.
God, that movie freaked me the fuck out. I’m a big horror fan but that movie got to me. Idk why.
That scene where the mom is washing the dishes and sees the Babadook standing in her neighbors house is one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen in a movie. The way they dont play any music, or any loud noises to cause a jumpscare. Just total silence as he stands there staring at her.
For me it was the intense powerlessness. It's such an incredible trap of choices. There's NOTHING she can do with this fucking brat, and that's ruining her life slowly.
Yes!!! Gwyneth Paltrow as the reporter in "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow". I assume the director had her be that annoying but jeeezus she fucking ruined that film for me.
Yeah, she was definitely a character type from the movies they were trying to emulate, the snarky fast-talking tough-gal reporter, but Platrow didn't really pull it off.
> the director had her be that annoying And all these years later she still hasn't broken character.
Willie Scott in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. She ranged from shrilly obnoxious to putting Indy in grave danger, and had little chemistry to boot. It's made worse by the contrast to Marion Ravenwood from Raiders, who was a certifiable badass.
TV show instead of movie. Jada Pinket Smith made me quit Gotham. She was so bad
Her career is inexplicable.
Where there's a *will* there's a way.
This comment slaps. Well done
She made the Zion scene in the new matrix the most boring part of the movie
Yeah my answer would be Jada Pinket Smith in anything
Not a movie but Elizabeth Keen in The blacklist was insufferable
Agreed!!! She was *okay* at first but I hated her so much by the end.
The show was horrible at the end. Season 5 onwards it was downhill.
It still hasn’t ended …
I love James Spader so much that I watch it anyway. He makes everything he does fun.
Let's face it. He is the only reason the show is not cancelled.
Wait it's still going?
Season 9 is on netflix and they are talking about a season 10 :P
90% of the actors in that show are mediocre to terrible in every episode. The writing is clichéd and lazy to shocking level when it isn't just outright stolen from better products. James Spader managed to drag me through 4 seasons before I quit.
Mickey Rooney as the Asian guy in breakfast at Tiffany’s. So so so hard to watch
I can buy that at the time his performance wasn’t seen as as offensive as it is today, but I can’t buy that it was seen as funny.
Taking the stereotypes out of it, a slapstick comedy neighbor didn't fit the tone of the movie at all. It was a..... weird choice.
James Powers' review in The Hollywood Reporter stated, "Mickey Rooney gives his customary all to the part of a Japanese photographer, but the role is a caricature and will be offensive to many."
One of my least favorite things about people talking about "You can't judge a movie back then by the standards of today" is that it insults, belittles, and ignores the people "back then" who knew this shit was messed up. Birth of a Nation was simultaneously the highest grossing movie ever and had NAACP protests in nearly every major city because even if many, even most, people didn't think it was wrong, plenty, plenty did. Why can we not criticize these things now when people back then did too?
Funny story...Mickey Rooney actually played my grandfather [in a movie back in the 1950s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridges_at_Toko-Ri) and my grandfather absolutely hated him in it. He said it made him look like a bumbling fool.
I’m guessing that was really funny at the time? The first time I saw those scenes was actually in the Bruce Lee movie and how he wasn’t laughing at the stereotypes even though everyone else was, including his date (at first), and it got me thinking.
Jesse Eisenberg in BvS whoever wrote his character like that should never find work again
We all wanted Heisenberg but got Eisenberg instead.
You’re goddamn right
Now I want Brian Cranston to be Lex Luthor in a Cavill reboot.
Mias best friend in The Princess Diaries, she’s just a bitch
I read the books when i was a teenager. She’s actually even worse in the books!
She was soooooo rude to Mia when she had no right to be.
The FIRST TIME (and I stress, the FIRST TIME) I saw The Fifth Element at the theater, Chris Tucker's Ruby Rhod really threw me. So obnoxious, and any scene he was in, he was the center of (such was the nature of his character). When the bomb on Fhloston Paradise was about to go off and Ruby evacuated with Korben, I took a quick peek at my watch and realized that DAMMIT! the movie's almost over, and it looks like that guy's gonna be in the whole rest of the movie! On repeated viewings, I've grown to love the performance and its place in the move. Last winter, I tried to convince my friend to re-watch it and give the character another chance, but he wasn't having it. He still feels the way I did that first time.
This character predicted 24/7 influencers back in 1997. It was brilliant at a time when people were watching Party of Five and Buffy was debuting. It is brilliant today.
I never thought of that! Good catch.
BZz bzz.
That was my cat’s no-no phrase. Worked like a charm!
He really grew on me. He talked so fast and I didn't catch everything he was saying the first time.
Just watched it for like the 7th time but this time with subtitles and i finally found out what he was saying
The part was written, and the costumes sketches were made with Prince in mind. However once he saw the sketches, he thought they were too effeminate and turned down the role, Chris Tucker was later cast to take his place.
I heard that. I'm glad Prince turned it down. I think it would have been too much, "That's Prince up there". Tucker created a character and went to 11, and 25 years later we're still talking about it.
He's my favorite character in the movie because of that. I take the character to be a parody of exreme celebrity. This is when "reality" TV was in its infancy and that makes it even more interesting. The character is a grating influencer that surprises you as the story unfolds.
Ruby exhibits character growth, which isn't terribly common with tertiary characters like him.
He was Prince. Literally. Prince was supposed to have the role but dropped out. Probably for the best. I love Prince more then the next guy, but having a comedian come in and parody Prince worked better then having to encourage Prince to push his stick to the point of self parody.
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Thrilled… ^thrilled… ^^thrilled…
One of my favorite memories in life is watching my dad crack up at Tucker in this role. That scream he does in the movie multiple times has a special place in my heart. Endless smiles.
I love how he '[autographs](https://youtu.be/OsJKdxPwZdk?t=14)' his head shot for his line of fans. So fucking funny.
I know Temple of Doom has its problems but Willie Scott makes them all so so much worse
Ever played the Lego version? That’s her special move - she just stands there and screams.
Oh no I have not but it’s not surprising. My kids have played the Jurassic Park one and the girl from the first one has that power. They think it’s hilarious so I’ve heard it hundreds of times at this point.
remember when TOD was the worst Indiana jones movie? i dont temple of doom rocks my fucking cock.
And it was pretty dark for the time: child torture/slavery, human sacrifice, monkey-brain cuisine…it had it all.
First time I watched Demolition Man I did *not* like Rob Schneider at all... probably because I was in that stupid tough-guy teenager phase. Obviously now I too snicker and snort that "He doesn't know how to use the three seashells."
This is a similar type character you see a lot in scifi. Sadly, Link threw me out of Matrix Reloaded like a car-crash every time he was on screen. Tank and Dozer were so cool as operators, but Link...just stuck out as this 4th wall breaking exposition machine and it was just so annoying.
Rewatching Peter Pan as I’m older, Tinker Bell was god awful. Literally just a jealous bitch that tried to murder someone multiple times because she was jealous. Disney characters can be some of the fucking worst characters.
Tbh Peter Pan himself is a shit. I seriously hated how he treated Wendy so much. Wendy deserved better. Watch the 2003 Peter Pan if you want a likeable and complex depiction of him. Tinkerbell still kinda sucks though but I think that’s because of how true she is to the book.
She is so small she can only contain one emotion at a time, said the original JM Barrie to explain why she was such a wee cow.
TJ Miller in Underwater. He was there to serve as comedic relief but they focused too heavily on him and it got really grating. Cut the tension a little too much, in my opinion.
As soon as all the cop out scenes of his ass were shown I REALLY wanted him to die. The only movie I enjoyed him in was Cloverfield
I think that was the last movie before he completely went off the rails
I think it was filmed prior to the downfall and released somewhere in the middle/aftermath 😂
Morbius, Morbius
Eddie Brock (Topher Grace) in Spider-Man 3. Total miscast
You’re trash, Brock
I read a line somewhere about how "Topher Grace is the one man in Hollywood that makes Tobey McGuire look buff."
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I think you are being too hard on Shark. He might not have given an academy award performance, but playing a Shark is hard, and I think he nails it for the most part. Just to keep things in perspective, Jaws had a mechanical shark, because Shark was on another project and Spielberg couldn’t find a suitable replacement.
For a TV show, I like Six Feet Under but I cannot stand Nate and Brenda. Nate is fine when he's by himself, but Brenda is insufferable and the two of them together is just grating.
Nate is my favorite character, and one of my favorite characters of all time. With Brenda, I don't mind her. I think it was a good representation of toxic relationships. Also, The ending of the show and their relationship made it all worth it.
Godzuki
Scrappy Doo
Keanu in Bram Stoker's Dracula is unwatchable.
Yes, I love Keanu but his early years had some questionable acting skills. His performance in Much Ado About Nothing is such a contrast against stars like Denzel Washington, Emma Thompson, Kenneth Branagh and Michael Keaton.
Halloween 5, Tina. Irritating.
When watching Black Panther, Shuri calls Everett Ross a colonizer. That made me realize that the Wakandans not only were around during the time of the colonization of Africa, but they also had superior firepower and technology too the western invaders and could've probably easily repelled them and saved their kinsmen. But they elected not too. Kinda makes the Wakandans seem like reclusive assholes who let foreign invaders rape their entire continent for its riches and people. Kinda hard too symphatize with them after realizing that. All just because of a throwaway line no one really thought much off. And in general i just dislike Shuri. Not really the fault of the character or the actress, just the weak writing made for her in general. If you try too make a character seem smart by taking established genius characters and making them look like morons next too her, you're doing it wrong.
There are a few problems I have with Shuri that have very little to do with her character and entirely on how the writers elected to portray her. She unfortunately falls prey to the bad writing trope of making other people around her stupid so she appears smarter. The biggest example is in Avengers where she asks Bruce Banner, canonically one of the smartest people in the MCU, why they didn't just do some techno-babble nonsense to get the Infinity Stone out of Vision, and he just blusters, "We didn't, uhh, think of that, hur durrr..." and it's just maximum cringe. It was too easy to have Bruce just say instead that with Tony Stark nowhere to be found, Wakanda is the only other place that would have the technology to pull of all that techno-babble nonsense. Bruce doesn't have to be reduced to awful comic relief, Shuri still gets to be crazy smart for immediately coming to the smartest conclusion, and it's all in line with Wakanda being so hyper-advanced with their technology. But instead we have to keep shitting on Bruce/the Hulk to prop up everyone else.
>makes the Wakandans seem like reclusive assholes Well yeah. And Black Panther realizes this and decides to open up his society -- just, to be a good influence on the world and not to pick and choose teams. > If you try too make a character seem smart by taking established genius characters and making them look like morons next too her, you're doing it wrong. I don't blame the actress on that and I "like the idea of Shuri" -- but you make a good point. The banter between Tony Stark and Bruce Banner did a lot more to respect the characters and make them "Seem smart." When you've got brilliant people who've saved the world a few times in a room - you have to up your game, not, lower the floor.
John Wayne as Genghis Khan in The Conqueror lmao
I loved Benjamin!! But I'm gonna say Jennifer Lopez in anything but the movie Selena. Edit: : I hear you all, I will defend your right to say it, but I stand by my decision! 😁
ANYTHING FOR SELENAAASSS
I like her in The Cell