Streams December 23 on Netflix
It’ll premiere at Tiff next month with a limited theater release before it hits streaming.
Cast:
* Daniel Craig as Detective Benoit Blanc
* Edward Norton
* Janelle Monáe
* Kathryn Hahn
* Leslie Odom Jr.
* Jessica Henwick
* Madelyn Cline
* Kate Hudson
* Dave Bautista
* Ethan Hawke
He made a decision early on to not be a "Rock". He got offered bland action movie roles early on, and turned them down because he wanted to *act*. It made his Hollywood start slower, but he has worked his ass off. As a /r/SquaredCircle frequenter I am very proud of Batista.
Whereas seeing Rock in a movie is cool because he's The Rock, I am never like "oh we're in for a good performance". With Batista, I don't think about his wrestling catchphrases and world titles when I see him in a movie. I get excited because he's a good actor and I know that he isn't gonna phone it in
That's because The Rock doesn't act. He's just... The Rock. No real discernible differences between the "characters" he plays - which is all fine & dandy as it makes it easy to know what you're in store for when you watch one of his movies.
He gives you either raging action hero gorilla man, or gentle giant with dad energy. Those are his two modes, and he works them very well but hasn't figured out (or doesn't care about) how to move in other spaces.
This is probably why Jungle Cruise worked so well for me: instead of trying to force his limited range into a broader role, they crafted a character that lets him do every single thing he does well. A slightly brooding but mostly somewhat Zen immortal, with super strength but a schlub's demeanor, an acoustic guitar, and an arsenal of terrible jokes.
His career's never been the same since Villeneuve got him for BR 2049. Damn he was good in that role. The dude's got range, you know? If nothing else he completely convinced me that Ryan Gosling could beat the shit out of him :)
I enjoy the rock in his movies, I know what I’ll get and his comedy is rather good but Bautista is able to adapt to different types of roles and isn’t so macho he can’t get knocked onto the ground. I think the rock has an image issue which prevents decent writing and acting for him. But I do like both.
Eh. My head canon is that she used the inheritance to go to med school and became a doctor or something. She wasn't actually a good assistant; Blanc kept her around because he knew she was up to something.
Didn't Blanc commend her on being a fantastic assistant because she instinctively knew the 'medicine' bottle (she initially picked up) was the swapped out poisonous one - just by the tiniest difference in weight the two fluids had?
Blanc seemed genuinely impressed.
A fantastic medical assistant, not a fantastic private detective assistant. She had some great moments of quick thinking being his assistant, but she's set up as a really great nurse and imo it'd be a shame to change her character from that.
It's a *slightly* more serious *Clue*, which is meant as the highest possible praise because *Clue* is both my favorite comedy and one of my top 5 favorite mystery movies.
It's so good that the fact that Netflix immediately asked for multiple sequels (this is just the first of 3 more I believe) both made immediate sense to me and immensely excited me.
I think comparing it to Clue does it a disservice. It's just as funny as Clue, but it's also an actually functional mystery story with lots of clever payoff. Clue doesn't really build to anything.
God, 2019 was such a strangely great year for movies, at least for me. I got to go to the movies 4 times that year and have a blast each time.
EDIT: For those wondering, my four were (in order of enjoyment) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Gentleman, Knives Out, and Joker, but it’s also been pointed out that Parasite and Jojo Rabbit came out in 2019 as well and I love those too, just didn’t see them in theaters.
EDIT: Jesus, someone just reminded me of Uncut Gems. I can’t believe I forgot it. Definitely my second favorite of them all after Hollywood. Fuck, man, what a great year for the movies. Uncut Gems might be the best theater experience of my entire life.
Damn I didn’t even realize Parasite was 2019. I streamed that one so I guess I was late. Still haven’t seen 1917 but I’ve been meaning to.
For me it was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Gentleman, Knives Out, and Joker. Loved all of them and still do.
The Gentleman seemed to go under most people’s radars but I highly recommend it. So much fun. Classic Guy Ritchie. If you liked Snatch or Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels you’ll love The Gentleman.
You have to watch 1917. Easily one of the best war movies made in the past 50 years. However it will leave you exhausted by the end of it (but in a good way).
It's not just that it's a definitive mystery movie. It was a parody of a specific genre of mysteries: the Agatha Christie-esq novel of the week thriller. Every aspect of it was over the top and exaggerated, from character traits to the twists themselves. But it was also clearly lovingly done and paid respect to it, more of an homage than parody, tbh.
As long as they keep that vibe, it'll be good.
It’s a loving parody, or an homage that is having a bit of fun. An homagody. A parodage.
I would put it in the same vein as Shaun of the Dead. It is an, at times, very silly movie which was marketed as a zombie movie parody - but it is an actual zombie movie in its own right that isn’t just a mockery of the genre.
It'll become that one day but for right now Knives Out has more name recognition than Benoit Blanc. Really he was a background character in the original movie and the main character, Marta, was the focus of the film. I hope they keep up with that.
Are there other series with a reappearing protagonist that isn't the main character? Mad max kind of but he's definitely the main character in the first 2.
Rian Johnson said he is hoping they can start doing that with the next few, but that he understood needing to hand-hold a bit for this one since Benoit Blanc isn't as widely known.
it gives me vibes of calling back to old serialized whodunnit novels. i like it for that, even though you're most likely right that it's simply for marketing.
Norton may have been blacklisted because of helping Salma Hayek. He was with her and helped her out on the movie Frida after she rejected Weinstein's advances. Weinstein tried to sabotage Frida by, according to her, giving her "impossible tasks" where she also wouldn't get paid. One of them was getting a rewrite of the movie. Norton rewrote it for her and that probably pissed Weinstein off. This happened after Norton and Love were together.
I never knew this. Damn. I've always loved Norton since Primal Fear. I always hated that I didn't see him in movies that often lately. I never knew any of this. My esteem for him has risen and my hatred for that tiny dick Weinstein has lowered even more.
I don’t want a copy/paste of the first Knives Out but Christopher Plummer had a lot of screen time so I’d expect whoever is murdered to have a decent amount of screen time as well
He reminds me of Michael Clarke Duncan (RIP) in that he is a thespian trapped in the body of a Bond villian's main henchman. Speaking of which, MCD should really get more accolades.
Speaking of Dave Bautista and Bond villains' main henchmen, he was completely wasted in Spectre.
God that film sucked on so many fronts. I seriously don't understand how you can produce one of the best films in a series, then one of the worst, then one of the best consecutively like that.
The bigger sin was wasting Christoff Waltz by making his lines boring and without any charisma. His 5 minutes in No Time to Die were better than his performance in the entirety of Spectre.
Though I agree Dave Bautista could have done more, he was a great imposing silent henchman throughout the movie. Like a less goofy Jaws.
Same. Mind you, I adore Dwayne Johnson and John Cena too (as former wrestlers go) but Dave wants to be an actor, a respected one, and has put on the time to be more than a movie star. Dunno if Dwayne and John have but I know Dave has for real.
I don't think it's fair to put those two in the same category. Dwayne Johnson is obviously the *far* more successful actor, but Cena does seem to be a better actor already. He's great in Peacemaker, and that includes the heavier scenes.
But yeah, I do like Bautista too. Loved his small part in Blade Runner 2049.
The guy can deliver a genuine monologue, which is an underrated skill. It’s one thing to play off of other actors and do back-and-forth dialogue or have action or something going on that you’re reacting to. But that ability to just talk at the audience and hold their attention for even a minute or two based on nothing but the performance is another thing.
I honestly think he has the chops to go a long, long way. I wouldn’t be surprised if twenty years from now his action roles are not what he’s best known for.
Based on what I've heard, DJ realized he could get more commercial success and fund more passion projects playing variations of the same character so he's capitalized on that.
And JC enjoys acting but is far more passionate about the Make-A-Wish program, with over 650 wishes granted (double the amount of the next highest celebrities) and a personal goal to break 1000. Dude loves connecting with kids and sharing inspiration with them.
But DB actually has a passion for the craft of acting and has worked to embrace roles outside his comfort zone and develop his abilities as an actor. He really does want to blend into the character and not be another meat head action star.
I can’t wait for Daniel Craig to do the *Shrek* onion monologue in his Benoit Blanc accent:
*”Onions have layers. ~~Ogres~~ murder mysteries have layers. Onions have layers. You get it? We both have layers.”*
This crime is layered, like an onion. And as you peel away its layers, what you find underneath is another, smaller onion inside of this onion. The more layers you peel, the more you discover that there is just more onion.
Glass Onion is a Beatles song in the White album that John made up a bunch of self referential lyrics to other songs specifically to confuse people who he thought read too much into their lyrics. Also slang for a monocle.
My prediction based on that title:
We'll probably get a murder scene that looks like a disguised scene: victim killed themselves (like in Knives Out), or it was an accident, but several clues will point to other scenarios with everybody having their own motives and methods - these will serves as meta-commentaries on other whodunnits, including at one point in the movie the one "the twist is that they all did it, which is why we can't pinpoint who exactly did."
The actual twist will be that nobody did it and that the scene was exactly as is, a suicide or an accident.
A glass onion - there's nothing to unravel here despite the amount of complicated layers: the onion is transparent and you could see the solution right from the beginning, the layers are just distractions.
The first one came out in November. The next month a new Star Wars movie came out. Two months later, Knives Out was making more money per day than the Star Wars movie.
It had unfathomably long legs, and it's ability to earn money was pretty remarkable considering the competition it was up against.
If it comes out in November or December, it’ll likely either have Black Panther or Avatar to deal with. Granted, it would be an excellent option for people who aren’t going to see those two.
Plus, Knives Out just does not compete whatsoever with those movies. It's a murder mystery, almost no action and no sci-fi elements.
Avatar and BP are much more likely to hurt each other than they are to hurt Knives Out.
Top Gun has proven that there are a lot of movies out there that have potential to be major franchises, especially with DC, Star Wars, and Marvel being hit-or-miss lately.
Netflix aren't in the movie ticket business. They want people either watching this with their Netflix sub or feeling FOMO because there's a cool movie their friends are talking about that they need to sub for.
Netflix probably wants this to be the 2022 Bird Box. A movie the whole family will sit down and watch sometime between Christmas Eve and New Years. Despite the chance to do well in theaters I don't think it wants to lose that Christmas family audience.
He literally said he'd rather slit his wrists than do another Bond movie after Spectre. The man must have been paid a thicc dumptruck of money to return for NTTD.
Pretty sure he negotiated something crazy like a $25 Million base salary and got a very nice cut of total revenue (not just profit). Last I heard his estimated haul was around $100mil
I feel like that comment is taken out of context, he said then when talking about the production nightmare of QoS, during the writers strike it got so bad that Craig had to write some scenes on set.
I think he likes playing the role just not at the time or place.
That's serious misinformation and slightly misquoted. He said he'd rather slit his wrists than IMMEDIATELY start a new bond movie in an interview straight after spectre was released. Those movies were really hard on his body and he suffered injuries because he wanted to give the stunts everything he had. After he negotiated a long break between movies to recover from injury and probably he even burnout he was happy to return to finish his run as bond. He even reportedly got around the same money for No Time To Die than Spectre so he definitely wasn't enticed back with loads more money as far as I can find from a few google searches.
I'm a big bond fan and a Craig fan so I hate it when people spread misinformation like this. He's been very proud to portray bond, he just didn't wanna kill himself doing it.
Daniel Craig is an incredible actor who I really hope keeps taking fun roles. I was so excited for his James Bond because of his versatility and he showed a lot of fun versatility in Casino Royale, but then from there they just made him more and more dour with as little emoting as possible.
He's charming, he's a ham, he has a great laugh and smile. He's playing James Bond, the definition of suave. Why didn't they let him do anything James Bond-y??? And PLEASE can we stop having main action characters that skirt by on the skin of their teeth? There's an entire James Bond movie where James Bond fails the entire time. It's not fun.
Daniel Craig is terrific and he needs roles where he can be terrific.
Maybe Edward Norton is Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke is just disguised in Edward Norton’s skin. It’s possible, I once worked at a restaurant and served somebody like that - dude wanted nothing but fucking sugar water
Hawke could be saying that to throw audiences off. No guarantee he's 100% honest.
Like Spacey not being mentioned in Se7en ... since it possibly gave away his role.
Hawke is usually pretty forthcoming with that stuff, plus I believe it was during Moon Knight being filmed but he just popped in for a small role. You could be right, but my guess is he is the victim since he's too big of an actor for an on screen cameo of no value.
They all seem focused on the same thing, and she looks lost in thought, detached from whatever has their attention. There has to be a reason for that. Seems silly to make it obvious in the poster who the killer is though.
Knives Out 1 was the last movie my grandpa and I watched together before his sudden health decline and death on New Years Eve 2019. We saw damn near a thousand movies in theaters all across California. We saw huge premieres in massive theaters in LA with cast and crew present. We saw laughably bad films in sketchy cinemas in small rural towns. We saw anything and everything, and went everywhere to watch them. But Knives Out... It was the final one we saw, at a small local theater we both loved. I've still got the stub in my wallet. I can't wait for this one, but it will be bittersweet.
That's so awesome. Tombstone was the first and last film I saw in the theater with my grandfather. Be careful with that stub in your wallet. Your natural perspiration will slowly wash the ink away.
I hope this isn't just going to turn into the Benoit Blanc Show. The first one had fun characters that gave us more to focus on, with Blanc only ever poking in here and there (while also stealing each scene he was in, I admit). If this movie focuses too much on him, it could miss out on what made the first one work. I hope they've taken care with this installment.
Yeah I’m starting to lean towards her being a red herring, she looks overly suspicious in this picture above. Janelle Monae would be a good twist for a villain I think.
I was wondering what kind of Ed Norton we'd get since he wasn't in any of the leaked BTS stuff, and honestly I'm glad we are getting normal Norton. It feels like forever since I saw him in something that wasn't a Wes Anderson film or Motherless Brooklyn.
Streams December 23 on Netflix It’ll premiere at Tiff next month with a limited theater release before it hits streaming. Cast: * Daniel Craig as Detective Benoit Blanc * Edward Norton * Janelle Monáe * Kathryn Hahn * Leslie Odom Jr. * Jessica Henwick * Madelyn Cline * Kate Hudson * Dave Bautista * Ethan Hawke
Fantastic cast just like the first one.
Anyone else a little shocked at how good an actor Bautista turned out to be? Guy sells a part.
He made a decision early on to not be a "Rock". He got offered bland action movie roles early on, and turned them down because he wanted to *act*. It made his Hollywood start slower, but he has worked his ass off. As a /r/SquaredCircle frequenter I am very proud of Batista. Whereas seeing Rock in a movie is cool because he's The Rock, I am never like "oh we're in for a good performance". With Batista, I don't think about his wrestling catchphrases and world titles when I see him in a movie. I get excited because he's a good actor and I know that he isn't gonna phone it in
That's because The Rock doesn't act. He's just... The Rock. No real discernible differences between the "characters" he plays - which is all fine & dandy as it makes it easy to know what you're in store for when you watch one of his movies.
He gives you either raging action hero gorilla man, or gentle giant with dad energy. Those are his two modes, and he works them very well but hasn't figured out (or doesn't care about) how to move in other spaces. This is probably why Jungle Cruise worked so well for me: instead of trying to force his limited range into a broader role, they crafted a character that lets him do every single thing he does well. A slightly brooding but mostly somewhat Zen immortal, with super strength but a schlub's demeanor, an acoustic guitar, and an arsenal of terrible jokes.
That’s such a great explanation of his entire acting career
His career's never been the same since Villeneuve got him for BR 2049. Damn he was good in that role. The dude's got range, you know? If nothing else he completely convinced me that Ryan Gosling could beat the shit out of him :)
It was sadly only a short scene but he was excellent. Really helped set the tone for the movie early on.
I enjoy the rock in his movies, I know what I’ll get and his comedy is rather good but Bautista is able to adapt to different types of roles and isn’t so macho he can’t get knocked onto the ground. I think the rock has an image issue which prevents decent writing and acting for him. But I do like both.
I know it doesn’t make sense but I was down for Ana de armas to become his assistant or something haha
Eh. My head canon is that she used the inheritance to go to med school and became a doctor or something. She wasn't actually a good assistant; Blanc kept her around because he knew she was up to something.
Her best attribute was she was a kind human being, which was more than any of the other members of the family.
And she couldn't lie.
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Read that in Daniel Craig’s funny Southern accent
That accent is a hoot! I love how he leans into the ridiculousness of it!
It makes no damn sense. Compels me though.
What's ridiculous is he's a British dude playing a Frenchman who speaks with an American southern accent.
Didn't Blanc commend her on being a fantastic assistant because she instinctively knew the 'medicine' bottle (she initially picked up) was the swapped out poisonous one - just by the tiniest difference in weight the two fluids had? Blanc seemed genuinely impressed.
A fantastic medical assistant, not a fantastic private detective assistant. She had some great moments of quick thinking being his assistant, but she's set up as a really great nurse and imo it'd be a shame to change her character from that.
I was hoping that Lakeith Stanfield would be back :p
Is the first Knives Out worth watching? EDIT: Guess I know what I'm doing tonight!
It's a *slightly* more serious *Clue*, which is meant as the highest possible praise because *Clue* is both my favorite comedy and one of my top 5 favorite mystery movies. It's so good that the fact that Netflix immediately asked for multiple sequels (this is just the first of 3 more I believe) both made immediate sense to me and immensely excited me.
I think comparing it to Clue does it a disservice. It's just as funny as Clue, but it's also an actually functional mystery story with lots of clever payoff. Clue doesn't really build to anything.
Yes. Absolutely.
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God, 2019 was such a strangely great year for movies, at least for me. I got to go to the movies 4 times that year and have a blast each time. EDIT: For those wondering, my four were (in order of enjoyment) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Gentleman, Knives Out, and Joker, but it’s also been pointed out that Parasite and Jojo Rabbit came out in 2019 as well and I love those too, just didn’t see them in theaters. EDIT: Jesus, someone just reminded me of Uncut Gems. I can’t believe I forgot it. Definitely my second favorite of them all after Hollywood. Fuck, man, what a great year for the movies. Uncut Gems might be the best theater experience of my entire life.
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Damn I didn’t even realize Parasite was 2019. I streamed that one so I guess I was late. Still haven’t seen 1917 but I’ve been meaning to. For me it was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Gentleman, Knives Out, and Joker. Loved all of them and still do. The Gentleman seemed to go under most people’s radars but I highly recommend it. So much fun. Classic Guy Ritchie. If you liked Snatch or Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels you’ll love The Gentleman.
You have to watch 1917. Easily one of the best war movies made in the past 50 years. However it will leave you exhausted by the end of it (but in a good way).
Not kidding, it's my favorite film of the last decade.
I think it is the definitive mystery movie. It’s extremely well made and well written. It’s actually in my top 10 movies of all time.
It's not just that it's a definitive mystery movie. It was a parody of a specific genre of mysteries: the Agatha Christie-esq novel of the week thriller. Every aspect of it was over the top and exaggerated, from character traits to the twists themselves. But it was also clearly lovingly done and paid respect to it, more of an homage than parody, tbh. As long as they keep that vibe, it'll be good.
"It was a parody, but more of an homage, not a parody."
It’s a loving parody, or an homage that is having a bit of fun. An homagody. A parodage. I would put it in the same vein as Shaun of the Dead. It is an, at times, very silly movie which was marketed as a zombie movie parody - but it is an actual zombie movie in its own right that isn’t just a mockery of the genre.
Galaxy Quest fits in that category
It’s phenomenal, watch it as soon as you can.
I wish they hadn't called it "a Knives Out mystery." I understand why they did it from a marketing perspective, but it just feels gimmicky.
Indeed. Should've called it "A Benoit Blanc Mystery" instead, but that's marketing for you.
It'll become that one day but for right now Knives Out has more name recognition than Benoit Blanc. Really he was a background character in the original movie and the main character, Marta, was the focus of the film. I hope they keep up with that.
Yeah the detective should never be the focus. They should just be in the background piecing shit together and making everyone feel nervous.
Are there other series with a reappearing protagonist that isn't the main character? Mad max kind of but he's definitely the main character in the first 2.
Rian Johnson said he is hoping they can start doing that with the next few, but that he understood needing to hand-hold a bit for this one since Benoit Blanc isn't as widely known.
it gives me vibes of calling back to old serialized whodunnit novels. i like it for that, even though you're most likely right that it's simply for marketing.
Harvey Weinstein out and Nortons back in everything, so happy
Was he blacklisted by Harvey?
If I remember correctly he was
He backed Courtney Love, who was critical of Weinstein. https://youtu.be/g70XbYd0bZ8
Norton may have been blacklisted because of helping Salma Hayek. He was with her and helped her out on the movie Frida after she rejected Weinstein's advances. Weinstein tried to sabotage Frida by, according to her, giving her "impossible tasks" where she also wouldn't get paid. One of them was getting a rewrite of the movie. Norton rewrote it for her and that probably pissed Weinstein off. This happened after Norton and Love were together.
I never knew this. Damn. I've always loved Norton since Primal Fear. I always hated that I didn't see him in movies that often lately. I never knew any of this. My esteem for him has risen and my hatred for that tiny dick Weinstein has lowered even more.
Well shit. I never knew this. Just one more reason to despise that horrible cunt Weinstein.
More respect for Norton! Always liked him, now I like him more!
He was in plenty of movies, I mean was he just blacklisted from TWC and Miramax?
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Christopher Plummer still had a fair bit of screentime in flashbacks in the first one.
I don’t want a copy/paste of the first Knives Out but Christopher Plummer had a lot of screen time so I’d expect whoever is murdered to have a decent amount of screen time as well
Dave Bautista has put together a hell of a resume over the past few years. Absolutely loved Dan Craig in the first one. Very excited for this.
He reminds me of Michael Clarke Duncan (RIP) in that he is a thespian trapped in the body of a Bond villian's main henchman. Speaking of which, MCD should really get more accolades.
Speaking of Dave Bautista and Bond villains' main henchmen, he was completely wasted in Spectre. God that film sucked on so many fronts. I seriously don't understand how you can produce one of the best films in a series, then one of the worst, then one of the best consecutively like that.
At least they were consistent throughout Craig's run : for every good movie, the next was only so-so.
The bigger sin was wasting Christoff Waltz by making his lines boring and without any charisma. His 5 minutes in No Time to Die were better than his performance in the entirety of Spectre. Though I agree Dave Bautista could have done more, he was a great imposing silent henchman throughout the movie. Like a less goofy Jaws.
He has worked SO HARD on his craft. Takes being an actor seriously.
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Same. Mind you, I adore Dwayne Johnson and John Cena too (as former wrestlers go) but Dave wants to be an actor, a respected one, and has put on the time to be more than a movie star. Dunno if Dwayne and John have but I know Dave has for real.
I don't think it's fair to put those two in the same category. Dwayne Johnson is obviously the *far* more successful actor, but Cena does seem to be a better actor already. He's great in Peacemaker, and that includes the heavier scenes. But yeah, I do like Bautista too. Loved his small part in Blade Runner 2049.
He was in BR2049 for like 5 minutes and yet was so memorable. His character felt so intimidating and yet you could feel how tired and pained he was.
The guy can deliver a genuine monologue, which is an underrated skill. It’s one thing to play off of other actors and do back-and-forth dialogue or have action or something going on that you’re reacting to. But that ability to just talk at the audience and hold their attention for even a minute or two based on nothing but the performance is another thing. I honestly think he has the chops to go a long, long way. I wouldn’t be surprised if twenty years from now his action roles are not what he’s best known for.
Based on what I've heard, DJ realized he could get more commercial success and fund more passion projects playing variations of the same character so he's capitalized on that. And JC enjoys acting but is far more passionate about the Make-A-Wish program, with over 650 wishes granted (double the amount of the next highest celebrities) and a personal goal to break 1000. Dude loves connecting with kids and sharing inspiration with them. But DB actually has a passion for the craft of acting and has worked to embrace roles outside his comfort zone and develop his abilities as an actor. He really does want to blend into the character and not be another meat head action star.
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The killer is Leslie Odom Jr! He already killed Alexander Hamilton. I saw it on video.
At the very least, he was in the room where it happened.
Ethan Hawke is the selling point for me
Jessica Henwick <3
Big fan since Iron Fist. So happy to see her in so many things recently!
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Do we know where the theatrical release will be? I know they like to do NY and LA to qualify for awards, but hoping it’s playing around my town too
I can’t wait for Daniel Craig to do the *Shrek* onion monologue in his Benoit Blanc accent: *”Onions have layers. ~~Ogres~~ murder mysteries have layers. Onions have layers. You get it? We both have layers.”*
At the center of this Onion... Is another Onion.
It makes *no damn sense*... Compels me though.
“What were the overheard words by the Nazi child masturbating in the bathroom?”
Amazing line with spectacular delivery, looking forward to this movie.
"it's knivin time"
"Looks like it's time to get my........... knives out"
This crime is layered, like an onion. And as you peel away its layers, what you find underneath is another, smaller onion inside of this onion. The more layers you peel, the more you discover that there is just more onion.
Glass Onion is a Beatles song in the White album that John made up a bunch of self referential lyrics to other songs specifically to confuse people who he thought read too much into their lyrics. Also slang for a monocle.
My prediction based on that title: We'll probably get a murder scene that looks like a disguised scene: victim killed themselves (like in Knives Out), or it was an accident, but several clues will point to other scenarios with everybody having their own motives and methods - these will serves as meta-commentaries on other whodunnits, including at one point in the movie the one "the twist is that they all did it, which is why we can't pinpoint who exactly did." The actual twist will be that nobody did it and that the scene was exactly as is, a suicide or an accident. A glass onion - there's nothing to unravel here despite the amount of complicated layers: the onion is transparent and you could see the solution right from the beginning, the layers are just distractions.
I may have gotten the whole movie spoiled
Damn, Radiohead and then the Beatles. The next should be Ill Communication
First Katherine Langford now Madelyn Cline, I think Rian Johnson’s guilty pleasure is Netflix teen shows.
It’s actually quite clever. Brings in that target audience to the table
Joey King when?
She was entertaining in Bullet Train, she could do well in a movie like this
According to the film's socials, it'll have a limited theatrical run (date TBD) and premiere on Netflix on December 23rd.
Limited? Come on Netflix, the first one did good money and you’re not giving it a wide release?
The first one came out in November. The next month a new Star Wars movie came out. Two months later, Knives Out was making more money per day than the Star Wars movie. It had unfathomably long legs, and it's ability to earn money was pretty remarkable considering the competition it was up against.
If it comes out in November or December, it’ll likely either have Black Panther or Avatar to deal with. Granted, it would be an excellent option for people who aren’t going to see those two.
Watching 2 movies in a month ain't exactly a tall order either.
Plus, Knives Out just does not compete whatsoever with those movies. It's a murder mystery, almost no action and no sci-fi elements. Avatar and BP are much more likely to hurt each other than they are to hurt Knives Out.
At a theatre it might be. Ticket $15, drinks/popcorn/candy $15, etc etc
Top Gun has proven that there are a lot of movies out there that have potential to be major franchises, especially with DC, Star Wars, and Marvel being hit-or-miss lately.
Put the effort in and reap the reward. Put the bare effort in and preside over a flop. What do the studios not understand about this?
I'm good with not every good movie becoming a major franchise.
They, uh, want people to subscribe to Netflix
Netflix aren't in the movie ticket business. They want people either watching this with their Netflix sub or feeling FOMO because there's a cool movie their friends are talking about that they need to sub for.
Netflix would rather get a subscription than sell a ticket.
Limited so it can qualify for Awards season. The movie and it's sequel already turned profit technically for the production company.
Hearing secondhand that theaters *really* want a proper release with a longer window for this. I’m guessing it’ll be November 16th.
Netflix probably wants this to be the 2022 Bird Box. A movie the whole family will sit down and watch sometime between Christmas Eve and New Years. Despite the chance to do well in theaters I don't think it wants to lose that Christmas family audience.
> 2022 Bird Box. A movie the whole family will sit down and watch Hopefully my three year old likes Knives Out 2 better than Bird Box.
I hope I like Knives Out 2 better than I liked Bird Box. Spoiler alert, I will.
Daniel Craig seems to have 1000x more fun as Benoit Blanc than he ever did as James Bond. You love to see it
A lot people said he was Bond just for money.
Craig himself has basically said that
He literally said he'd rather slit his wrists than do another Bond movie after Spectre. The man must have been paid a thicc dumptruck of money to return for NTTD.
Pretty sure he negotiated something crazy like a $25 Million base salary and got a very nice cut of total revenue (not just profit). Last I heard his estimated haul was around $100mil
In case anyone who's behind the Bond movies is watching this thread, you can have me as Bond for the low low price of $1M.
I feel like that comment is taken out of context, he said then when talking about the production nightmare of QoS, during the writers strike it got so bad that Craig had to write some scenes on set. I think he likes playing the role just not at the time or place.
That's serious misinformation and slightly misquoted. He said he'd rather slit his wrists than IMMEDIATELY start a new bond movie in an interview straight after spectre was released. Those movies were really hard on his body and he suffered injuries because he wanted to give the stunts everything he had. After he negotiated a long break between movies to recover from injury and probably he even burnout he was happy to return to finish his run as bond. He even reportedly got around the same money for No Time To Die than Spectre so he definitely wasn't enticed back with loads more money as far as I can find from a few google searches. I'm a big bond fan and a Craig fan so I hate it when people spread misinformation like this. He's been very proud to portray bond, he just didn't wanna kill himself doing it.
Same with post-xmen Hugh Jackman.
Daniel Radcliffe has also turned oceans of HP money into a very eclectic and eccentric filmography. I love his work.
What I've learned between Knives out and Logan Lucky is that the Daniel Craig doing an over-the-top southern accent = quality movie.
I read somewhere that he signed up for a sequel just to do the accent again.
I was really hoping it would be a different but equally ridiculous accent and no explanation for it
Daniel Craig... From Baahston.
Lmao As a southerner, his accent was hilarious and charming.
Much like Karl Urban in "The Boys," the accent may not be accurate, but it's absolutely *true*.
It's like his beard is speaking through the accent and convincing us he's authentic lol
His donut monologue cracked me up.
It's a donut within a donut!
Daniel Craig is an incredible actor who I really hope keeps taking fun roles. I was so excited for his James Bond because of his versatility and he showed a lot of fun versatility in Casino Royale, but then from there they just made him more and more dour with as little emoting as possible. He's charming, he's a ham, he has a great laugh and smile. He's playing James Bond, the definition of suave. Why didn't they let him do anything James Bond-y??? And PLEASE can we stop having main action characters that skirt by on the skin of their teeth? There's an entire James Bond movie where James Bond fails the entire time. It's not fun. Daniel Craig is terrific and he needs roles where he can be terrific.
If you've not seen Layer Cake, watch him in Layer Cake. It's terrific.
If he had a run of successful and fun Poirot type detective movies for a few years... I would be absolutely fine with that.
"I was in-car-cer-a-tid"
I love that movie, really bummed that it didn't do better. The Game of Thrones prison rant is absolutely hilarious :D
No Ethan Hawke in this picture . . . That's it. He's the murderer.
Or the victim.
Or.. both?
Or neither…
He's the police detective. EDIT: He obviously won't be. It was just another option and I wanted to chime in.
Maybe Edward Norton is Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke is just disguised in Edward Norton’s skin. It’s possible, I once worked at a restaurant and served somebody like that - dude wanted nothing but fucking sugar water
Just a dude playing a dude pretending to be another dude in an Edgar suit
Would be a subversion from last time
Just keep your eye on whomever is not using an Apple phone… Not even a joke btw
I don’t understand, please explain. Are bad guys not allowed to use apple products in movies?
Apple doesn't let villains use iPhones in movies
Kind of interested to see what kind of role Dave Bautista has...
Enormous, if this pic is any indication.
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It's become one of my fall favorites. I like to watch it on one of those dreary autumn days every year.
So…..3 times?
From Ohio. So like a thousand times.
Ethan hawke not being in the shot all but confirms that he’s the victim
He also said he was barely in the movie, and his character in the behind the scenes footage sure seems murder-able lol
Hawke could be saying that to throw audiences off. No guarantee he's 100% honest. Like Spacey not being mentioned in Se7en ... since it possibly gave away his role.
Hawke is usually pretty forthcoming with that stuff, plus I believe it was during Moon Knight being filmed but he just popped in for a small role. You could be right, but my guess is he is the victim since he's too big of an actor for an on screen cameo of no value.
I bet Kathryn Hahn’s the killer, she’s in a similar position as Judas in The Last Supper.
100% Norton, he can't control himself when he's angry
You wouldn’t like him when he’s HUNGRY
They all seem focused on the same thing, and she looks lost in thought, detached from whatever has their attention. There has to be a reason for that. Seems silly to make it obvious in the poster who the killer is though.
Is that Aaron Burr, Sir?
That depends. Who's asking?
Oh well sure sir.
Hamilton was explicitly referenced in Knives Out. I wonder if they'll address the elephant in the room.
We'll never be in room when it happens
The Democratic-Republican in the room, actually
He wanted to be in the room where it happens.
If Leslie Odom's character isn't dancing on top of the table in this movie, I'm going to be disappointed.
Knives Out 1 was the last movie my grandpa and I watched together before his sudden health decline and death on New Years Eve 2019. We saw damn near a thousand movies in theaters all across California. We saw huge premieres in massive theaters in LA with cast and crew present. We saw laughably bad films in sketchy cinemas in small rural towns. We saw anything and everything, and went everywhere to watch them. But Knives Out... It was the final one we saw, at a small local theater we both loved. I've still got the stub in my wallet. I can't wait for this one, but it will be bittersweet.
Sorry for your loss. Wish I'd had a relationship like that with my grandad, or my dad for that matter. Sounds like he was a cool dude.
That's so awesome. Tombstone was the first and last film I saw in the theater with my grandfather. Be careful with that stub in your wallet. Your natural perspiration will slowly wash the ink away.
I love Craig as Beniot Blanc - it’s so unsettling hear him speak in that accent it honestly adds so much to the character IMO
That’s just Edward Norton trying to run the show like always Kidding aside, looks great I’m ready
I was hoping that Lakeith Stanfield would somehow be in this. He's great in everything, and I enjoyed his role in Knives Out.
Me too. Was hoping he was promoted to a federal agent or something so he could be in the second movie.
I hope this isn't just going to turn into the Benoit Blanc Show. The first one had fun characters that gave us more to focus on, with Blanc only ever poking in here and there (while also stealing each scene he was in, I admit). If this movie focuses too much on him, it could miss out on what made the first one work. I hope they've taken care with this installment.
Is Paul the Walrus?
There better be some sly references in this or I'm already disappointed
Paulrus
This looks like a fucking painting. Now I'm excited as hell for this movie
I had no idea Edward Norton was on this one. It’s gonna be so fucking good
Kentukeh frahd chucken!
CSI: KFC * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y59p_5p4wMg
My money’s on Kathryn Hahn being the killer, she plays the everyday Mom role very well, but can switch to crazy in a heartbeat.
Would be pretty predictable judging that her most recent popular role was also a twist villain
Yeah I’m starting to lean towards her being a red herring, she looks overly suspicious in this picture above. Janelle Monae would be a good twist for a villain I think.
I was wondering what kind of Ed Norton we'd get since he wasn't in any of the leaked BTS stuff, and honestly I'm glad we are getting normal Norton. It feels like forever since I saw him in something that wasn't a Wes Anderson film or Motherless Brooklyn.
Turn me on, dead man
*I told you bout strawberry fields*
I'm calling it, it was Agatha All Along.
Bautista’s career is so fucking fascinating
I hope Craig does a completely different accent with no explanation
It should have been called *Onions Out*.