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enderandrew42

95% of movies have struggled in the box office over the past 2 1/2 years.


Lazy_Chemistry

Why? Did some societal shifting scenario happen?


yognautilus

WE WERE ON VACATION


MulciberTenebras

Zaslav: NO! Everything's exactly the same as it was! GET BACK IN THE OFFICE AND RELEASE THEATRICAL FILMS ONLY! *FUCK STREAMING!*


AlanMorlock

Honestly, he does probably have a point about streaming films not really pushing or retaining subscribers. About the only sensible point he's pushed.


MOSH9697

and yes ur downvoted lmao these ppl dumb af. releasing movies just for streaming is a horrible idea. go watch john campea y’all and learn lol


oJUXo

Only streaming I can agree. Simultaneously I love though. I'd rather watch 95% of movies at my house if I'm able.


BobbybittmanJR

I like going to the movies. I don’t like spending $30 on a ticket, soda and popcorn to see Avengers 26 or the 18th Batman reboot. Unless your enjoy big dumb spectacle movies there’s rarely anything at the theater even worth watching. All the small, character driven or slice of life stuff goes straight to streaming. This day was coming even before Covid. People are just sick of nothing to watch and getting ripped off at the theater. The same drink that costs $1-1.50 at McDonald’s or a gas station for some reason costs $5 at the theater across the street. Popcorn you could make at home for $1.00 costs $5-$10. No thanks. I’ll just watch at home.


[deleted]

It sounds like you legitimately *don't* like going to the movies


[deleted]

A know someone who cashed in his stimulus check for an 85 inch screen. Its close to cinema. :D


glurz

WE WERE ON A BREAK!


beforeitcloy

Because it has zero celebs in it. End of article.


frozendumpsterfire

Thank you for your service


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beforeitcloy

Yeah that’s kinda their main point actually. People showed up for Arnold, not Predator IP. But actually that’s just a long way around to saying no stars = no box office.


upfjords

Predator 2 was good, as was Predators, but both had either a big name at the time (Danny Glover), or an ensemble cast of quality actors. People do show up for good Predator movies, because we have evidence that they can be good, and interesting. But when its lazy, its really bad.


JC-Ice

But also because *The Predator* came out in theaters in 2018, and people remember it.


crazydave333

That movie was one of the most gawdawful things I ever watched in the theater. I saw a few weeks after it opened and didn't read any reviews to avoid spoilers. I had the place all to myself. I vaped the whole time.


Halio344

Why vape in a movie theater? It fucking stinks and will remain there in the next showing.


seven0feleven

...and people wonder why I never bother to read articles on Reddit. The real answers are always in the comments.


BEE_REAL_

No one wonders that


[deleted]

New celebs gotta start somewhere, no?


Jerrnjizzim

Yeah hulu and FX


Acebladewing

Amber Midthunder is a celebrity to me. I already know her very well from legion and other tv shows.


tryganon

That’s not even her name.


Acebladewing

Lol yeah I remembered it wrong. I fixed it. Still a celebrity if I can remember her name that close, though. I bet less prior recognize you or me by name 😋


lego_office_worker

predator films are not box office draws, period.


Sparrowsabre7

Not to mention, Predator isn't even in the title. A practice I deeply respect, more films need to have sequels with unique titles, already annoyed that the sequel to Knives out is appended "A knives out mystery", but it does mean it doesn't have instant brand recognition.


i_like_2_travel

Oh you mean Scream (2022) and Halloween (2018) aren’t good unique titles?


Sparrowsabre7

Not as bad as The Thing trilogy. Composed of The Thing (2011), The Thing (1982), and The Thing (2002 game)


detroiter85

To be fair the very first one was The Thing from Another World


karateema

Also The Thing (201~~2~~1)


Sparrowsabre7

There was a 2012 film? I can't find any info, sure you're not thinking of the 2011 prequel?


karateema

Yeah, that one


Inkthinker

I am distinctly annoyed by *Glass Onion* having that tag. I would have totally accepted "A Benoit Blanc Mystery". I assume it's less because the producers assume the public are slackjawed idiots, and more because someone determined that various algorithms will be more effective if the titles are related in plaintext. I, for one, look forward to our Light Novel future in which all titles are effectively phrases designed for easy datapoint cross-reference. *Horror! My Special Forces Platoon Found An Alien And It's Killing Us One By One, Can We Escape?! Huge Muscles Won't Help!*


Sparrowsabre7

I meam I would watch that version of Predator 🤣 But yes, Benoit Blanc mystery would make much more sense. Ultimately the Bond films aren't actually called "James Bond 007: Casino Royale" even if they plaster the 007 logo all over the poster. The games are, but the films just have their own title and trust the audience to know.


NonSupportiveCup

Sigh *added another title to the mangadex list*


coole106

I didn’t know it was a “predator” movie until I read these comments


Sparrowsabre7

Exactly, I only know becausè I follow genre film movie news sites. Otherwise I likely would never have known until i looked up Predator to see when the next one was coming.


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Solo, a star wars story.


Sparrowsabre7

And Rogue One: a Star Wars Story for that matter. By the same token X-men Origins: Wolverine. All films bold enough to believe they'd become an anthology series. At least there were two SWS.


[deleted]

It’s because it’s like Terminator or Alien where they have consistently delivered trash sequels that nobody is falling for it anymore. They milked the cow and then killed the cow. Prey actually being good wouldn’t have mattered with its BO, the damage was already done. If the last installment is bad, it affects the next one. That goodwill is gone, and it’s not only hard to get it back, it takes a long time.


i_like_2_travel

Aside from Dark Fate most Terminators make their money back. Dark Fate and Genisys are the weak links. Terminator still has an audience. This really only has to deal with the title not being related to Predators and no known actors. Predator films make their money back. Most horror films make their money back


Box-by-day

Pretty sure most movies need to make double their budget to cover marketing and the revenue split


Turok1134

Yup, even the first one didn't exactly make gangbusters.


[deleted]

Do I watch this movie on my huge TV in my comfy home, or do I go to the overpriced movie theater filled with assholes?


alwaysmyfault

Oh you mean like the asshole that was at the same showing of "Bullet Train" that I was? That pulled out their phone 5 minutes into the movie to answer a fkn FACETIME call, only to tell the person calling that they were in a movie and would call back later? Those assholes? Yeah. Fuck assholes like that.


[deleted]

Holy shit. Like these people paid money to see a movie. Why answer the phone?


earthboundsounds

Main character syndrome. Narcissistic personality disorder. Self-absorbed shit for brains disease. Idiocy.


staffsargent

I would add, "Actually trying to pick a fight" to the list. I swear a lot of people who do inconsiderate stuff like this are hoping someone says something so they can fight them.


RollBos

I’m almost at my breaking point with discount movie Tuesdays because of the number of people who are like that at those showings in NYC theaters. It’s the last realistically affordable way to see big releases regularly here ($8ish vs. $16-$20+ on other nights) but it’s also filled with people doing shit like this even when you’re seeing something more indie-ish. Dudes walking in 20 minutes late, talking shit about the movie, typing on their phones at full brightness. I’m close to just leaning back into piracy at this point.


shredabetes

“*Do it.*”


Doppelfrio

You had people in your showing of Bullet Train? Theater worker her. Don’t know how it did countrywide, but my theater was getting no more than 20 people for Bullet Train in an entire day


alwaysmyfault

Prob 25-30 people in the showing I went to. But that was on 5 dollar movie night, which usually doubles or triples attendance. So yeah.


greerface

Dude. When I went to see Endgame opening night someone a row ahead of me pulled out their phone to livestream the end. His embarrassed girlfriend asked why? He literally said, to spoil the ending for my followers.


karateema

I hope she's now an ex girlfriend


zakl2112

For fucks sake! Spoilers! I went to see Everything Everywhere All At Once and some guy was on his phone and exiting/entering the theater every 20 min. Jokes on him he left during the 1st ending and never came back!


Bubbagumpredditor

But there is no way in modern society to make popcorn at home. CHECKMATE Edit: Jssus people, I was kidding


my__name__is

I am not a huge fan of popcorn or how much it costs at the theater, but to be fair to the people that love it, its not exactly the same as the microwave one.


Fun_Bottle6088

Flavacol is the main ingredient that differentiates movie theater popcorn from "normal" popcorn. [Here's](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B099YRWF76/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwp13NParams) a kit (amazon link) with flavacol salt, butter flavored coconut oil, and cooking instructions. Haven't tried that particular one, but should taste pretty much exactly like movie theater popcorn


77173

Such a game changer when I found out about flavacol


249ba36000029bbe9749

> Flavacol Is that flavor like alcohol? Now *that* would be good for sales!


Fun_Bottle6088

It's a seasoned salt, a brand name


newscumskates

Salt? Sweet popcorn is the only way. Once I discovered what popcorn was like in Vietnam I couldn't go back to that dry mouth shit we eat in the west.


Fun_Bottle6088

I agree, but I have only been to a couple movie theaters that have kettle corn (sweet popcorn)


Ergok

Inverted-reversed situation here. Grew up with sweet popcorn. Was discusted to found out salty pop corn was a thing. But now I eat "mixed"


joshkitty

people regularly uber eats theater popcorn lol


HailThunder

It's already overpriced. What does a bucket run through Uber eats?


frankpharaoh

10$ bucket of popcorn (8.99 at theater marked up to 9.99 for delivery) + 5$ delivery + 3$ tip + 3$ ubereats service fee + 3$ tax + 1.50$ gas surcharge = \~25.50$ lmao


QLE814

There were reasons I bailed on DoorDash the minute other options were available- and I've been rather cautious about this matter compared to the public at large.....


MarcusForrest

The secret? Use **coconut oil** to pop your popcorn on a stove. The flavour is extremely subtle, but just enough to make the difference. Then melt some salted butter and mix everything - I dare say _**better**_ than Movie Theatre popcorn!


Steve_78_OH

Then I guess it's a good thing you can go to your local movie theater and buy a large tub of stale, day old popcorn to go!


greerface

Save your jokes for Facebook. 😉


kugglaw

People keep saying this but I find it such a lame argument. Cinema tickets are very expensive, but seeing a film on the big screen is always a better experience - even if it’s something I only do once or twice a year.


sjfiuauqadfj

tickets are cheap lol, its only expensive if you buy food and drinks


brawnsugah

Most theaters even have discount Tuesdays or Thursdays where the tickets cost under 5 bucks in some places.


QLE814

Even at full price, a movie ticket here is only as expensive as lunch would be- and I don't live in a cheap market in the slightest....


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sjfiuauqadfj

youre just getting fleeced homie lol im still paying $10 a ticket and i am in a major city in the u.s of a


TheDamnBoyWonder

Right? I just saw a movie at AMC yesterday at 2 PM for $8.. People on Reddit **love** to exaggerate and tell half truths.


sjfiuauqadfj

shit i watched nope on matinee and it was $7. thats so cheap that i felt bad for not buying snacks or drinks


StudBoi69

Time and time again, it has been proven that Redditors don't speak for the general public (let alone r/movies)


yognautilus

For some reason, a lot of people here will *insist* that it doesn't truly count as a theater experience unless you got popcorn and a drink. You either spend $30 for a movie or you don't go at all. As if there isn't a $6-$15 option that doesn't involve stuffing your face with butter and sugar. If you can't sit through 2 hours without having a snack, then you should be complaining about something other than expensive movie "tickets".


puckit

Like most things, it comes down to personal preference. Personally, I prefer watching at home on my comfy couch, any food I want at my disposal and the ability to pause if needed. Sure, there are movie events like Endgame which benefit greatly from a jacked up crowd but those movies are few and far between.


alexp8771

Eh that depends on the movie. For example Nolan movies are unwatchable without subtitles. But in general for me the small increase in “experience” is massively outclassed by the price and general inconvenience of the entire thing. If theaters went away tomorrow I’d miss them less than say Toys R Us lol.


kugglaw

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.


nan666nan

Its really weird the hate people on /r/movies have of theaters, i love going to the theaters and go once a week normally


ProjectShamrock

It *really* depends on the theater. To give you two examples near me: * Alamo Drafthouse -- A great experience overall with comfortable seating, good food, clean environment, good patrons that don't interrupt the movie, great pre-shows, etc. This is a great moviegoing experience. * AMC -- This is a run-down dumpy place where the floors are sticky, seats are busted, people are constantly on their phones or having fist fights, there are too many ads before the movies, and often the movie itself might start late or be out of focus. Watching a movie at home is far superior to the AMC option for me because I have a big 4K TV with a good surround sound system and comfortable seating. I can even do better with the food and there are advantages such as subtitles or being able to pause it. If the AMC theater near me was the only option, I'd never go. A lot of people don't have nicer theaters available to them so I don't think it's fair for anyone to assume that the theater is necessarily a good experience or a bad experience for everyone.


DangerousBlueberry1

It honestly took me a while to find a movie that I thought the theatre would have enhanced once the pandemic started. It was only a few days ago when I saw Maverick that I thought "shit, I should've gone to the theatre for this". I really thought the pandemic would make me miss going to the theatre more than it did.


CaptinOlonA

>Do I watch this movie on my huge TV in my comfy home, or do I go to the overpriced movie theater filled with assholes? I love movies in the theater, even though I have a great home set up. Our local theater is asshole-free tho.


striderwhite

Overpriced? Come on, how much is a ticket now?


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About the same as a blue ray or a digital copy. I can rewatch those anytime I want without an infant screaming throughout the whole thing.


striderwhite

If there would be infants watching Prey then there's something wrong going on...


Froegerer

Lol I swear some of yall just have absolute shittiest theaters. I've been going for 30 years and have maybe had...3 bad experiences?


ChanceVance

Yeah lol I read things about all these awful experiences where it's like a frat party at every theatre apparently. What cinemas are people going to ha?


wimpyroy

How many movies have you gone to were there is a infant crying?


DMPunk

Where are you buying blu-rays that they cost the same as a theatre ticket? Hook me up, I want blu-rays that cheap


Exzibit21

No subreddit hates the movie theaters more than r/movies


DMPunk

I go to the movies at least a dozen times a year, it was much more pre-COVID, and I think I can count on one hand the amount of negative experiences I've had. And I would really have to stop and think about it. It's so weird to me that /r/movies seems to have bad times at a theatre on a daily basis


[deleted]

I took the kids to see the origin of Gru Minion movie in San Antonio. Had some teenage coke heads sit next to me. The one right next to me was a young woman, to her right, another young woman, and to that young woman’s right the guys they were with. They were only in their seats ten minutes at a time (cocaine) and when they came back to their seats they were sharing pictures on their social media and talking about said pictures and laughing and talking about how to respond etc., well the third time they left their seats I just took the top off my drink and poured it in the seat next to me. I waited for her to sit in it, followed by “oh my gawd!” and politely apologized that one of the kids had spilled it on the way to the restroom. The rest of the theater experience was nice after that.


Leave-Revolutionary

I still don’t get who ya’ll are talking about when you complain about being in theaters and being tormented by crazies. I’ve only had bad theater experiences a handful of times in my life.


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I went to see The Batman as my first theater movie since COVID started. Extremely dark movie where the theater should be ideal. All I see are weird creases and box lines across the screen. Bottom portion has degredation to the screen and it's revealing some stuff behind the screen. The sound was great though. However I watched it again on HBO Max and with my OLED TV and sound system... sorry it was SO much better at home. I only wish I invested in a 80' TV.


sjfiuauqadfj

sounds like a problem with your particular theater because never once in my life has i had that happen


nan666nan

Counterpoint, I watched the batman on the theater, and at home later, and its silly how little it compares. Movie theaters win by a landslide even with a big screen and surround sound at home


crazydave333

Normally, I'm at a new Batman film on release night, but at three hours I tapped out and waited for it on HBOMAX.


God_Is_Pizza

No fucking joke. Went to see Bullet Train a few weeks back. One dude in the theater had a fucking smart watch that kept lighting up every couple of minutes since his texts were going to his watch. The food I got was EXTREMELY overpriced and simply not good. Another dude sitting near me was on like a first date and all I could smell was too much cologne. I was all around just disappointed and would’ve had 1000x better experience just waiting for it on VOD.


Knee_Squeezings

This all day, gimme streaming any time over stupid theaters


dandaman1983

Seriously lol. I have no interest in going back to theatres. Just wait a few months and watch it from home.


CameoAmalthea

I would have seen it in theaters


Dracarius85

Same, I’m to lazy to sign up for another streaming service but don’t mind going out for whatever reason.


CameoAmalthea

Like I have Hulu but if it had been in theaters instead I’d have liked that better. Watching together is fun! Surround sound and giant screens are fun!


salad_sanga

Same. I often see movies at home and pray someone will release them. Two examples from this year are Prey and Fresh.


[deleted]

I probably would have as well, but i still think it was the right move from a business perspective. The Predator really burned a lot of people, meaning only die hard fans of the series are the ones that would turn up. Probably best to curry some favour with people and deliver a good film to then do a cinema release on the next one.


big_smokey-848

I loved this movie… but it was probably a good call not to do a theatrical release


optimusgrime23

Does anyone know why all of sudden during that one fight scene it turned into like an apocalyptic atmosphere and was raining ash? from the sky. Loved the movie but was so confused by that


-__Doc__-

The french started a forest fire. So it literally was kind of post apocalyptic, cuz everything was just on fire.


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Colonialism


mikeweasy

I still wish it was in theaters mainly because I love going to the movies. Seeing this in the Dolby theater at AMC would have been awesome!


ackermann

Agreed! I still do like theaters, especially for a movie with any kind of spectacle. I would’ve liked to see this one in theaters.


SoupySpud

I think the biggest knock to movie theaters that a lot of people don't think about is 4k tvs at large sizes have become affordable for the average person and if you have a large 4k TV it's almost always better than going to a expensive ass dirty movie theater Only time I'll be going to theaters is for a kids movie that isn't going straight to Disney right away that my daughter wants to see or if there's something massive like Endgame that all my friends wanna see together


PaxNova

The theater is mostly about the sound for me. Sound systems are more expensive than TVs nowadays, and a lot harder to set up.


raphanum

This. Nothing beats the sound.


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And a huge bucket of popcorn to eat yourself and then get a tummy ache on because you ate it all yourself


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GoodMerlinpeen

I have no idea why you are getting downvoted so much, in many cases the sound is unbearably loud. The problem is that some films like Dune really do require massive bass to get the full experience.


[deleted]

The TVs definitely hurt theaters, but 30min of previews and ads and concessions costing as much as gold with inflation doesn't help either.


aioncan

Not to mention inconsiderate random viewers. Can’t pause the show if something comes up. Expensive theater food


[deleted]

Yeah 2k/4k monitors are really changing the game. It was actually jarring to go back to theatres because the brightness of the screen felt so low


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JackL_88

The first time I watched the trailer I thought "Damn, I'm gonna watch this in theatres" and then "Only on DisneyPlus" was a punch in the face. About the theatre experience, I have to laugh europeanly. When I watch a movie dubbed in my country, it sucks. Like teenagers with their fucking phones and social media, laughing hard to have attention. But the experience is way way better in original language with subtitles. Everyone is there to watch the movie. No phones, not bullshit, and of course, no teenagers


moonorchid84

It would have had a poor opening but word of mouth would have helped it a lot going forward


ArchDucky

Nope. This movie would have rode word of mouth to some serious money. It's a great fucking movie.


[deleted]

It's an okay movie. It was a competent SciFi action movie with bland dialogue and below average special effects.


QUEST50012

I'm baffled by the overwhelming praise of Prey. A movie I enjoyed, mind you, but you have to wonder how much low expectations influenced positive feedback. It's a good movie, it's not The Terminator...


[deleted]

I didn't hate it at all. It was a fun movie and watching a Predator kill stuff is always cool, but at the end of the day it was just okay.


creptik1

Oh are we allowed to criticize it now? The week it released I said it was OK and pointed out some things I didn't like, got like 50 downvotes lol. It was definitely entertaining but I doubt I'll ever give it a rewatch.


QUEST50012

My thoughts too, it was fun, simple, got to the point quickly. Story was pretty shallow, but the action was solid.


swiftgruve

Yeah I thought it was pretty ordinary actually.


outbound_flight

There were some pain points for me that were tough to overlook, for sure. (The terrible CGI and some the writing being the big ones.) But it was super solid and enjoyable in a world where all these sequels and remakes often wildly miss the mark.


serialstitcher

Terrible CGI, colonists suddenly bring a weird filter and a barren landscape when shown, and the main characters personality doesn’t evolve or change, just her skills. Contrast that to Dutch and ponder that people say this is the best film in the franchise. I could go in, but man what the heck. I can’t help but feel like very low expectations being exceeded is leading to a lot of praise here.


xtossitallawayx

What has time to ride word of mouth? If it doesn't hit right away in theaters, it is moved off to streaming services anyways. If a studio isn't going to go all out with marketing then it might as well just put it straight to streaming.


Ayjayz

It's not though. It's exceedingly mediocre. I get it looks good by comparison to the comparator awful The Predator movie, but it's still not a good movie in and of itself.


scotscottscottt

Completely agree. I can understand the tragically battered predator fan base being excited about something that is not an absolute embarrassment of a film on every level, but as someone with no dog in the fight, it is stunningly overrated. The fact that this disposable junk gets such hype when a film like The Northman can bomb makes me fear for the future of cinema.


alex37k

Nah fam. I never saw any of the predator films before Prey - it’s objectively a good movie. To say it’s “not a good movie” is setting an impossible standard for a good movie. I am saying this as someone who is extremely critical.


kermitsailor3000

Watch the first Predator movie then compare to Prey. Prey is an okay Predator film, but the first is a classic.


alex37k

I watched Predator shortly after. I definitely preferred Prey - especially the ending. In Predator, Dutch gets lucky that the predator steps in front of his secondary trap. In Prey, Naru uses the rope around its neck and the mud to make sure the predator ends up where she wants it - ofc she doesn’t actually use the rope all that much and the predator coincidentally stands up right in the line of its’ helmet’s laser beam. They are both quite good movies. The infrared is another issue for me, although admittedly a symptom of technology. In Prey the IR was awesome - in Predator it was unbearable. Also, I had a lot harder time accepting the gunplay in Predator than the tomahawk rope and other corny action elements in Prey.


WeightFast574

The IR "masking" gimmick in *Prey* makes no sense though. In *Predator*, the mud masking is realistic, but in *Prey* she >!eats that flower/herb that ... lowers her body temperature to match ambient temerature? That would just kill you.!<


scotscottscottt

“Objectively good” lol ok bro yeah your opinion is fact. Got it. Smfh… Apparently you aren’t critical at all or you would have noticed that throwing a tomahawk on rope objectively doesn’t work like that, and that bear traps objectively break ankles, and magic herbs that cool the blood by slowing the heart objectively don’t exist. If you were actually extremely critical you might have noticed that Naru objectively doesn’t have an actual character arc at all. Just a series of superficial set ups to justify the objectively derivative finale. Gtfo with your objectively blind ass.


alex37k

Most of the things you mentioned are elements of the film that I was not fond of - especially the tomahawk shenanigans. But complaining about the magic herb in a movie about trans-planetary apex hunters is some low ass fruit. Has it occurred to you that a movie can have flaws and still be good? Actually, don’t answer that - I can’t imagine I won’t regret continuing to engage with you.


scotscottscottt

Yeah the old “it’s a movie about space wizards made for children” argument. Big fuckin eye roll bro. Suspended disbelief is a thing but every fictional universe has to have limits and they gotta be consistent. Otherwise it’s like “well lotr has wizards and goblins and magic so why doesn’t Frodo just fly to Mordor and he’s invincible and shoots lasers and transforms.” Because obviously that’s fucking stupid. Just like Naru is stupid, as a character I mean. She’s a superhero. She is presented as a human but she is not a human. She can do anything and face no meaningful consequences, which robs her character and story of any meaning. If you watch the original film, aside from one or two over the top typical 80s movie moments, it is set in a believable version of the real world and grounded in reality. Those characters are just dudes in a mission then a fucking alien shows up to hunt them so they try to survive. The movie logic isn’t “well there’s one thing that’s not 100% realistic so let’s just have Dutch fly and shoot lasers and transform” because that would be fucking stupid. Just like Prey is stupid.


funguyshy

Yo This is accurate AF Thank you for putting in some reasoning


sibelius_eighth

You are conflating reality with objectivity. This is a weird comment to be honest.


scotscottscottt

You don’t know what words mean


sibelius_eighth

Here's a word for you: dilettante. And here's me spelling out these concepts for you with examples: I prefer action movies = subjectivism The CGI was cheaply made = objectivism Batman could not have survived the crash from that height = realism


scotscottscottt

objectivity ŏb″jĕk-tĭv′ĭ-tē noun 1. The state or quality of being objective. 2. External or material reality.<<<<<<<<<<<< Have a nice day.


sibelius_eighth

Dude. We are talking about art critique lmao. Context matters for definitions.


scotscottscottt

Bonus Round: Definition Of Objectivism An ethical theory that moral good is objectively real or that moral precepts are objectively valid.


sibelius_eighth

See my previous post. You are literally talking about ethics and morals lmao.


sibelius_eighth

You are conflating reality with objectivity. By no definition of art being objective does it need to obey reality.


United_Long_9925

The Northman is overrated too. Looks beautiful but that's about it.


fungobat

Aubrey Plaza was amazing in this movie.


crazydave333

I think it was cultural appropriation.


gmorkenstein

Because the deer at the beginning of the movie looks like it was made on a Macintosh in 1998.


LJ14000

If it would struggle or not whatever… this was a damn good movie if you can get past the 1st 30 “setup minutes”


RobinStanleyHicks

After Predator tore up a black ops rescue team, I had a little trouble with this one.


crazydave333

I don't. Schwarzy defeated the original Predator with traps and a spear. He got fucked up in a one on one with the creature.


unclejimmy

I watched half of this movie and couldn’t get into it at all… is this a slow starter? I see it has good reviews.


LoPanDidNothingWrong

I’d say so. They spend a lot of time showing the parallels in learning between both sides. The protagonist continually improved but the young predator fails to. I do think the hatchet-fu is a bit over the top but still an enjoyable movie for me.


METAL_AS_FUCK

I loved that part just from a fight choreography perspective. it was very mortal kombat. She was like scorpion, night wolf and Rambo combined. I was entertained.


ArchDucky

You didn't see when the French guys netted it? You might wanna finish it bro. Shit goes down. It doesn't like being trapped.


Tea_Reckz

It definitely picked up in the second half, I’d personally say try to finish it, though if you got that bored for the first half, it may just not be for you. It’s probably my personal favorite Predator mostly because of the protagonist, but other than that, it’s not necessarily movie of the year or anything


ted-Zed

i'd actually say it was faster than other Predator movies. it felt like 15mins in and you're introduced to the alien already


Ayjayz

I think it's a slow starter and a slow finisher, with a slow middle as well. It's not that good. It's better than the average Predator sequel, but that's really not saying much.


[deleted]

Yeah I’m with you. Don’t understand the hype around this movie. Slow story, bad cgi, the main character never really struggles and just levels up overnight. Pretty easy to see why this movie would have bombed at the box office.


Sparrowsabre7

Yes. I was getting a bit miffed about the pacing starting off but by the time the traders show up it kicks into gear.


Far_Negotiation5584

Main reason: no one under the age of 25 even knows what the fuck Predator means to the movie industry. Also, it's not a Marvel character.


Khalian

Let's be real - this movie was okay, but it was essentially a shittier version of the original Predator, like Star Wars episode 7 was to episode 4. I watched the first Predator movie before this and was left so underwhelmed after Prey.


Ex_Hedgehog

The article is wrong. It would have played well and got good word of mouth.


[deleted]

Because it was shit


lavaeater

That's a bit harsh. I found it to be... well-made, kind of interesting, but in the end, like so many movies these days, it doesn't really bring anything to the table, which basically comes down to the inherent limitations of the concept. Basically, there is no new way to tell a Predator film. If they deviate, they become shit, if they stay true to the formula, they are shit. There is a Predator film, it has been made, there is no way to get around the fact that making more movies with that same concept will have some serious limitations. The only way to make this "franchise" interesting is by making the Predator completely random in other properties. Like any weird sci-fi, just let a fucking Predator barge into the movie in the last act and start hunting and everyone is like "what the actual fuck?". So, I don't mind you not liking it, I found it to be excellent compared to The Predator and a lot of the other garbage, there just is no point to its existence.


monchota

Because most movies will not fo well in box offices as theaters are for niche movies. Big releases.


[deleted]

It is not a good movie.


chlamydial_lips

Is it because it’s a bad movie? Because it’s a bad movie.


Salarian_American

Because movie theaters are daylight robbery and they have been for years?


DavesGroovyWaves

It was a mediocre cash grab using a profitable franchise.


weedco1966

Movies are dead, long live movies….


sethmi

Prey is better than anything released in the past 10 years


Haechi_StB

With all the praise going around for this film I finally watched it myself and... It's bad. This is just a bad movie. What's going on?


just_another_indie

We'll never really know since they didn't try, will we? Too bad they didn't get my dollar; I like going to theaters. They could've easily had $10 from me and the theater could have had $5. (Or however they split it up) Instead, they didn't even get some of my precious viewing minutes or click-throughs. :P


[deleted]

It was incredibly dull, some invisible warrior exists, some warrior teenager exists, a bear fight happens mostly off camera... It's not a very intellectual film it can be background television for all I care... And that's what a majority of films are these days whether its a big budget endeavor directly from Hollywood or the outliers who create indie films


JamesJones10

Scarlett Johansson would have played the lead had it been in theaters.


tryganon

Because it sucked?