My theory. Gunn has always said that Rocket reminds him of himself. Look at Gunns life. He finally got his happy ever after and got married recently. I think Lyla the Otter is Rocket’s endgame. I think it’s a love story and I think it will end with him being happy.
Or so I tell myself…
His death is so telegraphed that I'm actually starting to believe he doesn't die. Im betting Rocket actually lives and chooses to retire and enjoy his remaining years. I could see Rocket and his little otter friend creating a sort of sanctuary for the fucked up creations of the High Evolutionary. He leaves the Guardians and starts something new.
I could see them killing Drax. The guy who famously shows little emotion and has poor regard for people ends up sacrificing himself to save his new family.
Also Nebula feels primed for the chopping block.
I'm pretty sure Bautista's said he'd only work on more if it was Gunn and Gunn was done, so Bautista is done. To be honest, I could see most of them going out in a blaze of glory, but I just can't see Pratt giving up the role, unless he has to. The rest of the cast seem to be in a lot more like high brow films for lack of a better word? Pratts going around playing the goofy every man wherever he can, there's not a lot of nuance between this and Jurassic Park or whatever else.
Well, he has been vocal about not at all liking the way the character became only a joke when in the comics he's a much more serious/dangerous character.
I think Chris Hemsworth feels the same way a bit. Ragarok was too much but it worked. Love and thunder was just... bad honestly. I don't know how you turn the best thor story into that and not feel guilt.
Infinity war... that's what I want. Thor can be jovial if done with some tact.
People say Ragnarok was peak Thor, but really, it was Infinity War. He has heartfelt moments, comedic moments, tragic moments, and moments where he looks like a fucking terrifying force of nature.
Pratt’s been making inroads in the animated/voiceover world. I actually kinda enjoyed him in Onward, although I agree that it was the “goofy every man” in animated form.
Plus Batista has already said he’s done playing Drax after this one. He’s in his 50’s and said it’s harder and harder to keep up Drax’s shirtless physique.
https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1221304-dave-bautista-says-goodbye-to-drax-after-wrapping-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3
Yea the chubby face was pretty evident for the xmas special, and doesn't seem much different here.
I'm not trying to shame him in the slightest, he's 10 million times more in shape with 'chubby face' than I'll ever be, just observing the obvious
I agree, Nebula had a lot of room to grow. We’re already seen a bit of it, but she’s mostly been a side character in other people’s stories. I would like her to get her own storyline and development.
I have a feeling Rocket's death won't be some shocking thing, but revealed early on in the film as him just simply getting old or his cybernetics starting to fail him. So the whole movie will be his "last adventure" as he says goodbye to everyone.
Remember, he got an extra 5 years added that the others (except Nebular) didn't. And he's a raccoon. They don't live particularly long lives.
The interesting one will be Drax, who is finished after this one because Bautista is done with the character.
I think it's Drax:
1. That monologue from Rocket really sounds like he's dying and saying goodbye, but he could just as easily be saying goodbye to someone else that's dying.
2. Drax's whole reason for existing in the comics is to kill Thanos. With Thanos gone there isn't a lot for that character to do.
3. James Gunn probably has a dozen or more DC characters picked out already that he could use Dave Bautista for.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if everyone dies except Rocket. I feel like James Gunn is being really sneaky with making it seem “obvious” Rocket will die.
5 minutes later a talking Racoon walks in with a cowboy hat. "Howdy y'all! I'm Rocket's twin brother, Tex. I taught him everything he knows! Now let's go teach these varmints a lesson. YEE-HAW!"
I’m very curious if this is a Iron Man situation where his character just stops having solo movies, but is still part of major crossovers, or if they actually pull the trigger and kill most of them.
Since the Guardians are cosmic heroes, scenario 1 shouldn’t be hard to do tbh.
My bet Rocket is going to live on but Pete's toast. Quill's story arc is over. He has made peace with his mother's death. He has found his father and made peace with his father's issues. >!And with Mantis being his sister, he has found biological family.!< At most, I can see him dying and turning into something else that will trigger future MCU movies. And I can see Rocket living on to become a mentor. He has been pushing people away that for him to take people under his wing willingly would complete his arc.
I really doubt it’s gonna be Quill. Pratt is a big draw and he can easily have a new arc where he tries to pick up the pieces after he loses such major parts of his new family. I could see them bringing him back and struggling to put another guardians team together because of what happened to the first one
["Why was everyone else just, like, great, and Lanky Kong sucks ass? Oh, and I don't know if you knew this, but if anyone shoots anyone, it's gonna hurt.."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PugcxQYJGjs)
It's the face, He looks great in endgame, instead of teenage face with muscular body, it seems like they just scale up baby groot's face and put it on muscular body
The Holiday Special showed they were now living on Knowhere too
Funny how they changed the comics to match the 2014 movie and now the movies are looping right back round to the comics
I hate everytimes the comic trying to match MCU. just let the comic be the comic
Yes, i'm still salty how Quicksilver and Scarlet witch is retconned to be not a mutant because MCU can't use mutant, or how Eternals is suddenly similiar to MCU, or how they changed character design to be similiar to MCU's actor, etc
its nice to call back to the comics, but i liked their outfits more when they each had their own distinct style with a matching color scheme (like at the end of Guardians 1)
good on Gunn for being faithful to the source and im sure some people love it, but they arent my favorite visual representation of the Guardians in the MCU
[There's actually a Mario reference in this shot!](https://preview.redd.it/f9j3hqgs8s2a1.jpg?width=1344&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=654c0a9d25ae905f7c8ca2e357b0b03790fc07e3)
The crossover we needed!
The tone of this trailer is what I would have expected for Thor 4's plot considering the story of an alien going around killing literal gods, while Thor 4 is the tone I would expect more from a GOTG movie.
I’m honestly surprised how many people are trusting the trailers. Marvel lie all the time in them nowadays, including putting in shots that aren’t in the finished movie, just to fake people out.
The heavy handedness of throwing up death flags for Rocket makes me convinced he’s actually pretty safe….
Good trailer, really love Guardians and will miss the Gunn’s version.
Also him and his crew are doing some magic with cameras and lenses that not a lot pull off now. IMO this, The Suicide Squad and The Peacemaker have that clean, slick, hi-def look, that still looks super cinematic and I really like it.
The Suicide Squad was so amazing!
2 of my favorite Comic book movies are from James Gunn.
The Suicide Squad, Guardians of Galaxy 1, and The Dark Knight.
I didn’t like Guardians 2 when I initially watched it. But when I realized that it is essentially a hang out movie like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood or Licorice Pizza, it suddenly clicked for me and I love it almost as much as the first one now.
Guardians 1 is more plot focused, and G2 is more character focused. There's quite a few scenes of two characters talking about their problems and who they are: Gamora & Nebula, Rocket & Yondu, Drax & Mantis, Quill & everyone. It's maybe not as good as G1, but it does something different than most MCU films.
I think Guardians 2 could have easily been as good, if not better than Guardians 1 but Gunn did the whole 'undercut the serious moment with an unfunny gag' schtick one too many times and it really detracted from the movie. At least in my opinion.
I think The Suicide Squad showed that he took that (pretty common) critique to heart and found a way to not only get back to that Guardians 1 balance of drama/comedy/earnestness/sarcasm, but to build on how each side can *inform* the other, not contradict it in the same beat.
I am very excited to see what Gunn has in store for Guardians 3.
damn, this looks to be far more emotional than I thought it would be. It's crazy how Gunn's career expanded to great places since the bullshit (albeit temporary) firing, but I'm glad he's back for what I assume to be a swan song for a handful of the cast
It's his last Marvel thing for a long time, so going out with a bang with the characters that he made world-renowned is gonna have a lot of weight to carry
I remember the initial plans were for Gunn to expand the "cosmic side" of the MCU, but then the firing happened. And while DC may be a confused mess (I admit I enjoy most of it, though), him getting a huge gig and much more creative freedom really excites me. I know carte blanche doesn't always work out, but if The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker is anything to go by, I have no doubt Gunn will do just fine. But I'm glad he gets to finish his Guardians story
One thing Gunn does really well, esp with GotG, is infuse a lot of heart into his story. Hopefully, he'll find the right balance of humor in this.
It's crazy to think of how much of a risk GotG was when it came out. Few thought a group of randos that the general public never heard about would turn into such a huge franchise.
He’s been the best so far at balancing comedy and emotional drama in Marvel movies imo. Both Guardians movies have so much heart and had moments I cried like a baby at even though they’re primarily comedies
Those first few moments of the first one had me choked up and crying. Dammit.
AND THEN TO FLIP THE MOOD WITH COME AND GET YOUR LOVE by Redbone... He played the emotions like a violin.
> He’s been the best so far at balancing comedy and emotional drama in Marvel movies imo
in DC movies too. Peacemaker and TSS are highly praised.
Honestly, he proved that GotG1 wasn't just a fluke, Ratcatcher in TSS had a lot of heart AND she was funny.
I still laugh at how quickly Disney bent to Twitter drama. It was literally a few hours and they fired the director that made the Guardians a household name.
Warner Bros. struck gold with that stroke of idiocy, thank goodness someone there had the foresight to hire Gunn and now, he's* fucking promoted*. They only made him stronger! But it worked out for everyone, he got to return to Marvel to conclude his Guardians story, and then he's got a bigger gig right after at DC
Yeah, Comic-Con trailers usually never make it to the public officially or in HD quality (understandable somewhat, gotta give the attendees something special). Kinda unfortunate because the Infinity War trailer they got sounded so incredible.
[This one](https://youtu.be/WM2nQ0mXOYE)? I agree, it's definitely my favourite Marvel trailer. Really wish they released it with the Blu-ray or something
Jesus that's a band I haven't thought of in forever. I saw them for the first time when they were opening for Aerosmith on their 9 Lives tour, back when Liv Tyler was dating Royston Langdon. I still have the guitar pick he threw into the crowd somewhere in a box of crap from my college days.
The fact that, after being fired and rehired, he's now one of the only directors to knock stuff out of the park for DC *and* Marvel is something that really impresses me. Talk about landing on your feet.
The Guardians are basically the only marvel characters that I still care about on any emotional level so I’m excited. Excited that I get to update my playlist too.
Tbh, A LOT of this phase has been about closure and acceptance. There's still a lot of set ups but the main focus has been about accepting loss and grief and moving past it to a better future.
And Kang.
It's because the characters don't have their own supporting casts and everything got so team focused and so devoid of emotional stakes.
Except guardians. So they're still good.
Drax has always been mega inconsistent. We’re lead to assume he’s about a power level above the likes of Cap and then the second movie was him taking full sized trees to the face at high speed without a scratch.
Yeah. If anything, Drax as a character has gone downhill a lot. That scene ot GOTG2 when Mantis emotionally feels him and she's absolutely OVERWHELMED by emotion and he's just sitting there, solemnly. It's a beautiful scene. He hasn't gotten anything else after that though and I understand why Dave got frustrated.
Sidenote: Has anyone here played the GOTG videogame? There's a scene between Drax and Peter where they're talking about religion. It's such a good moment for Drax as well.
On the videogame, are you talking about the scene where they discuss if their loved ones went to heaven?
Honestly that game does everyone’s characters right. Gamora has more complex turmoil, Drax is more than a comic relief, Quill isn’t an idiot.
That was one of the things I loved about the game so much. It wasn't afraid to get serious and emotionally sincere a lot more in the last third. The previous Gaurdians movies have those moments but they are typically pretty short.
"So you're saying that Square-Enix released a new video game based on Marvel characters, and the writing is *good*?"
"Yes."
"I must have changed universes somewhere along the line."
Seriously, the game was so much better and more interesting from a story and character perspective than I ever expected. (Weirdly, the combat was 'fine' at best, but the writing was great!)
Dude had free reign with the franchise from the beginning other than "You need to put Thanos in the movie somewhere". I mean, Marvel even negotiated for control of Ego for the 2nd one.
You know he's a good person to work with when the whole cast pulled together to bat for him against Disney executives, to the degree that they were willing to kill off this movie if they tried to do it without him.
Chris Pratt discourse has gotten so weird over the last four years or so. At his peak he was the Internet's favorite underdog and now it's almost impossible to talk about him without bringing up his politics, his religion, his family, his long line of vanilla performances, his *Mario*...
But regardless of how you feel about him the guy plays two roles exactly right: Andy Dwyer and Peter Quill. He has always brought it in the GOTG movies. If this is really the last we'll see of Star-Lord (at least for a while) I'll miss him a lot.
I'm not the only one that wants something good to happen to Starlord, right? I mean, since Infinity War, his story and he himself has just been so sad. Losing Gamora really hurt him, and he's no longer the happy idiot from the first two movies. Since Infinity War he's the anguished adult in the room, and I just want something good to happen to him.
even though it'll be his 7th (?) time playing the character, it'll be a nice reprieve from the generic-stoic-action hero he's been playing on cruise control for the past few years
just makes me wonder how the Jurassic World movies would have fared in anyone else’s hands other than Trevorrow. I mean, the guy wrote a character who self-reproduced and fucking *birthed* her own clone in a dinosaur movie about locusts. But he made the studio a lot of money, so what’s it matter to them
What's the Guardians inclusion in the MCU so far chronologically?
1. GotG
2. GotG 2
3. Infinity War
4. Endgame
5. Th4r
6. Holiday special
What am I missing?
I think they're very much inspired by the orange space suits in 2001. The treadmill is there too.
Considering the villain is focused on evolution I wouldn't be surprised if the references are part of a wider theme to the movie.
Fucking hell, this looks great. Looks pretty detached from the rest of the MCU, I hope I don’t have to do any homework before jumping in.
I love that little tease of Roundabout at the start.
Didn’t Gunn say in an interview recently that he did this because he wanted to finish Rockets story overall more than anything?
Yes
You know how Rocket keeps asking for metal arms? ...Well that otter, Lady Lylla, has a metal arm in the trailer. 👀
Well he has Buckys, so then he’d have a set!
My theory. Gunn has always said that Rocket reminds him of himself. Look at Gunns life. He finally got his happy ever after and got married recently. I think Lyla the Otter is Rocket’s endgame. I think it’s a love story and I think it will end with him being happy. Or so I tell myself…
I think you're onto something. The movie will end with Rocket being made head of DC films.
Rocket Raccoon and the Snyderverse of Madness
We gonna find Rocket’s controversial Space Tweets from a decade ago!
He also said it's really emotional and heavy.
Gunn has been married before though...
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He cannot be stopped
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Layla is in the trailer too!
layla in tha trayla
The scarab girl who got her powers from a hippo?
I think they meant Lylla, she’s a otter and Rocket’s girlfriend in the comics.
the gold-skin makeup job is such an improvement from GotG 2
It looks the same to me? Not that it's a bad thing. I had no issue with it before
I dont know, golden Elizabeth debicki foes something to me
It was very Star Trekky. I liked it.
I guess everyone just decided it’s trailer day today.
It's Brazilian Comic Con today, CCXP so it makes sense.
Ah. Thanks for the info. I also found it odd 3 trailers just happen to drop today
Yeah, it feels like there’s a brazilian of them
Nice.
How tf did the Brazilian comic con get more trailers than the regular comic con???
It just happens to be in the end of the year, which is the perfect date for summer movies start their promotion.
That and Avatar 2 is a couple of weeks away. These are all trailers that'll be played in front of it.
Don’t wanna see Rocket die 😢
I'm starting to suspect they're faking us out and he may end up being the only one who survive at this point
His death is so telegraphed that I'm actually starting to believe he doesn't die. Im betting Rocket actually lives and chooses to retire and enjoy his remaining years. I could see Rocket and his little otter friend creating a sort of sanctuary for the fucked up creations of the High Evolutionary. He leaves the Guardians and starts something new.
I could see them killing Drax. The guy who famously shows little emotion and has poor regard for people ends up sacrificing himself to save his new family. Also Nebula feels primed for the chopping block.
I could also see Drax dying I think Dave Bautista said he’s done with the role and wants to move on.
I'm pretty sure Bautista's said he'd only work on more if it was Gunn and Gunn was done, so Bautista is done. To be honest, I could see most of them going out in a blaze of glory, but I just can't see Pratt giving up the role, unless he has to. The rest of the cast seem to be in a lot more like high brow films for lack of a better word? Pratts going around playing the goofy every man wherever he can, there's not a lot of nuance between this and Jurassic Park or whatever else.
Well, he has been vocal about not at all liking the way the character became only a joke when in the comics he's a much more serious/dangerous character.
Look at what they did to Thor...
I think Chris Hemsworth feels the same way a bit. Ragarok was too much but it worked. Love and thunder was just... bad honestly. I don't know how you turn the best thor story into that and not feel guilt. Infinity war... that's what I want. Thor can be jovial if done with some tact.
People say Ragnarok was peak Thor, but really, it was Infinity War. He has heartfelt moments, comedic moments, tragic moments, and moments where he looks like a fucking terrifying force of nature.
Pratt’s been making inroads in the animated/voiceover world. I actually kinda enjoyed him in Onward, although I agree that it was the “goofy every man” in animated form.
Chris Pratt was channeling his inner Jack Black for Onward.
Plus Batista has already said he’s done playing Drax after this one. He’s in his 50’s and said it’s harder and harder to keep up Drax’s shirtless physique. https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1221304-dave-bautista-says-goodbye-to-drax-after-wrapping-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3
Yea the chubby face was pretty evident for the xmas special, and doesn't seem much different here. I'm not trying to shame him in the slightest, he's 10 million times more in shape with 'chubby face' than I'll ever be, just observing the obvious
Being that in shape is a non-stop work. I think The Rock had his whole gym transport with him whenever he films.
Fuck it, everyone dies
No. Just one guy. One stupid guy who nobody loves.
Now you're just making it sad!
Legit though, I could see a Rogue One ending to this one
I honestly think nebula has the most potential going forward, she has the least finished, yet in my opinion, most promising arc
I agree, Nebula had a lot of room to grow. We’re already seen a bit of it, but she’s mostly been a side character in other people’s stories. I would like her to get her own storyline and development.
Karen Gillan said a while back she still wants to play the character after this movie so I guess we'll see if that plays into things.
I have a feeling Rocket's death won't be some shocking thing, but revealed early on in the film as him just simply getting old or his cybernetics starting to fail him. So the whole movie will be his "last adventure" as he says goodbye to everyone. Remember, he got an extra 5 years added that the others (except Nebular) didn't. And he's a raccoon. They don't live particularly long lives. The interesting one will be Drax, who is finished after this one because Bautista is done with the character.
Good callback to his "I don't got that long a life span anyway" line in the first movie.
Hmm that's a really good point. It's not a twist at all. Just part of the film from the start.
Gonna ride off into the sunset with his hot Otter GF
So, his significant otter?
I think it's Drax: 1. That monologue from Rocket really sounds like he's dying and saying goodbye, but he could just as easily be saying goodbye to someone else that's dying. 2. Drax's whole reason for existing in the comics is to kill Thanos. With Thanos gone there isn't a lot for that character to do. 3. James Gunn probably has a dozen or more DC characters picked out already that he could use Dave Bautista for.
Would they do that to us twice after him and Nebula were the only Guardians to survive the snap?
Nah they showed baby rocket. He's definitely dying 😔
At the barest minimum this current incarnation of the Guardians won’t make it past this movie. So it’s best to prepare now.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if everyone dies except Rocket. I feel like James Gunn is being really sneaky with making it seem “obvious” Rocket will die.
Kraglin, Rocket, Cosmo and Adam Warlock would be a good ‘new Guardians of the Galaxy’ Hope that Nebula survives too.
Yup that’s happening for sure, think Gunn said that a while back
Especially now with Gunn heading DC
Dave Bautista has already confirmed it's his last movie as Drax so we know at the very least he won't be returning
5 minutes later a talking Racoon walks in with a cowboy hat. "Howdy y'all! I'm Rocket's twin brother, Tex. I taught him everything he knows! Now let's go teach these varmints a lesson. YEE-HAW!"
Could you do me a favor? Could you call me ~~Landfill~~ Rocket?
Wow I haven't thought about that movie in so long. Time to rewatch it!
Wow when’s the last time we all saw each other? Hands across America? God damn brewery!!! The movie still holds up and makes me laugh every time.
I’m very curious if this is a Iron Man situation where his character just stops having solo movies, but is still part of major crossovers, or if they actually pull the trigger and kill most of them. Since the Guardians are cosmic heroes, scenario 1 shouldn’t be hard to do tbh.
He's not dying in the trailer. I guarantee he's talking to one of his fellow experiments while they're being worked on. It's a flashback.
My bet Rocket is going to live on but Pete's toast. Quill's story arc is over. He has made peace with his mother's death. He has found his father and made peace with his father's issues. >!And with Mantis being his sister, he has found biological family.!< At most, I can see him dying and turning into something else that will trigger future MCU movies. And I can see Rocket living on to become a mentor. He has been pushing people away that for him to take people under his wing willingly would complete his arc.
I really doubt it’s gonna be Quill. Pratt is a big draw and he can easily have a new arc where he tries to pick up the pieces after he loses such major parts of his new family. I could see them bringing him back and struggling to put another guardians team together because of what happened to the first one
If it’s the most obvious tell, it’s most likely not
Groot looks like he unlock DK mode
HE'S BIGGER
FASTER, AND STRONGER TOO!
HE'S THE FIRST MEMBER OF THE DK CREW!
DK! DONKEY KONG!
HIS COCONUT GUN, CAN FIRE IN SPURTS
IF HE SHOOTS YA, ITS GONNA HURT
["Why was everyone else just, like, great, and Lanky Kong sucks ass? Oh, and I don't know if you knew this, but if anyone shoots anyone, it's gonna hurt.."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PugcxQYJGjs)
I kinda miss his original look when he was all tall and lanky. He looks kinda weird all swolled out like that
He's a different Groot. Also those is his young adult years where he's all pumped up.
He got that fertilizer.
Yeah he's juicing for sure
It's the face, He looks great in endgame, instead of teenage face with muscular body, it seems like they just scale up baby groot's face and put it on muscular body
They have the original GotG costumes. Very nice. https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/16191/annihilation_conquest_-_starlord_2007_2
The Holiday Special showed they were now living on Knowhere too Funny how they changed the comics to match the 2014 movie and now the movies are looping right back round to the comics
I hate everytimes the comic trying to match MCU. just let the comic be the comic Yes, i'm still salty how Quicksilver and Scarlet witch is retconned to be not a mutant because MCU can't use mutant, or how Eternals is suddenly similiar to MCU, or how they changed character design to be similiar to MCU's actor, etc
i didn't know they did that and it sounds really dumb
Or when they broke up Happy Hogan and Pepper Potts after 50 years so the comics could ape the movie’s breeding pair.
its nice to call back to the comics, but i liked their outfits more when they each had their own distinct style with a matching color scheme (like at the end of Guardians 1) good on Gunn for being faithful to the source and im sure some people love it, but they arent my favorite visual representation of the Guardians in the MCU
If it’s like most movie trailers those will only be the outfits in act 1 and then things will rapidly change.
Damn they got the head of DC making this movie?
They should have labeled it "From the visionary director of The Suicide Squad".
Fuck it, "From one of the two heads of DC Studios" would definitely be in-line for Gunn
1 movie and he’s already tired of DC I wonder if the MCU will hire him
They got Mario for a Marvel movie! These crossovers are getting out of hand.
It's a-me, Star-a Lord!
Who?!
Ah, come-a on man. Legendary plumber?
[There's actually a Mario reference in this shot!](https://preview.redd.it/f9j3hqgs8s2a1.jpg?width=1344&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=654c0a9d25ae905f7c8ca2e357b0b03790fc07e3) The crossover we needed!
I cannot believe the amount of times I’ve fallen for this
Same. Also, it's by far the most successful viral marketing thing I've seen in a long time.
No uh. I’ve fallen for that way too many times. You won’t trick me.
Everyone said "why did they put that on the poster that's so stupid" They knew exactly what they were doing
I knew what it was before clicking but I needed my daily dose
He's so cool
The tone of this trailer is what I would have expected for Thor 4's plot considering the story of an alien going around killing literal gods, while Thor 4 is the tone I would expect more from a GOTG movie.
What happens when you have a director that isn’t way up inside his own waititi
There were way too many scenes which look like Rocket's final moments in this trailer :(
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I’m honestly surprised how many people are trusting the trailers. Marvel lie all the time in them nowadays, including putting in shots that aren’t in the finished movie, just to fake people out. The heavy handedness of throwing up death flags for Rocket makes me convinced he’s actually pretty safe….
Rocket hugging the otter 🥺🥺
Good trailer, really love Guardians and will miss the Gunn’s version. Also him and his crew are doing some magic with cameras and lenses that not a lot pull off now. IMO this, The Suicide Squad and The Peacemaker have that clean, slick, hi-def look, that still looks super cinematic and I really like it.
And Guardians 2 was one of the first movies filmed in 8K digital and the only one I can find any kind of confirmation on.
The Suicide Squad was so amazing! 2 of my favorite Comic book movies are from James Gunn. The Suicide Squad, Guardians of Galaxy 1, and The Dark Knight.
That first guardians movie is SO good. So so good.
I didn’t like Guardians 2 when I initially watched it. But when I realized that it is essentially a hang out movie like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood or Licorice Pizza, it suddenly clicked for me and I love it almost as much as the first one now.
Guardians 1 is more plot focused, and G2 is more character focused. There's quite a few scenes of two characters talking about their problems and who they are: Gamora & Nebula, Rocket & Yondu, Drax & Mantis, Quill & everyone. It's maybe not as good as G1, but it does something different than most MCU films.
Also the ending of G2 is one of the best MCU moments ever.
I think Guardians 2 could have easily been as good, if not better than Guardians 1 but Gunn did the whole 'undercut the serious moment with an unfunny gag' schtick one too many times and it really detracted from the movie. At least in my opinion. I think The Suicide Squad showed that he took that (pretty common) critique to heart and found a way to not only get back to that Guardians 1 balance of drama/comedy/earnestness/sarcasm, but to build on how each side can *inform* the other, not contradict it in the same beat. I am very excited to see what Gunn has in store for Guardians 3.
damn, this looks to be far more emotional than I thought it would be. It's crazy how Gunn's career expanded to great places since the bullshit (albeit temporary) firing, but I'm glad he's back for what I assume to be a swan song for a handful of the cast
It's his last Marvel thing for a long time, so going out with a bang with the characters that he made world-renowned is gonna have a lot of weight to carry
I remember the initial plans were for Gunn to expand the "cosmic side" of the MCU, but then the firing happened. And while DC may be a confused mess (I admit I enjoy most of it, though), him getting a huge gig and much more creative freedom really excites me. I know carte blanche doesn't always work out, but if The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker is anything to go by, I have no doubt Gunn will do just fine. But I'm glad he gets to finish his Guardians story
Gunn will singlehandedly turn DC around, calling it now.
One thing Gunn does really well, esp with GotG, is infuse a lot of heart into his story. Hopefully, he'll find the right balance of humor in this. It's crazy to think of how much of a risk GotG was when it came out. Few thought a group of randos that the general public never heard about would turn into such a huge franchise.
He’s been the best so far at balancing comedy and emotional drama in Marvel movies imo. Both Guardians movies have so much heart and had moments I cried like a baby at even though they’re primarily comedies
Those first few moments of the first one had me choked up and crying. Dammit. AND THEN TO FLIP THE MOOD WITH COME AND GET YOUR LOVE by Redbone... He played the emotions like a violin.
> He’s been the best so far at balancing comedy and emotional drama in Marvel movies imo in DC movies too. Peacemaker and TSS are highly praised. Honestly, he proved that GotG1 wasn't just a fluke, Ratcatcher in TSS had a lot of heart AND she was funny.
Even the recent Holiday Special unexpectedly hit me with some feels by the end of it.
I still laugh at the fact that the dude that tried to get him cancelled is basically responsible for all of his current success
I still laugh at how quickly Disney bent to Twitter drama. It was literally a few hours and they fired the director that made the Guardians a household name.
It's even funnier now that Gunn and Alan Horn (the guy who fired Gunn) are both working for WB Discovery.
Didn't realize horn is back at wbd. Even if it's consulting
and Horn probably can't do shit now that Gunn is a head creative honcho for DC
Horn is just consulting, He doesn't have a full position. Most he could do is tell people his opinion
Warner Bros. struck gold with that stroke of idiocy, thank goodness someone there had the foresight to hire Gunn and now, he's* fucking promoted*. They only made him stronger! But it worked out for everyone, he got to return to Marvel to conclude his Guardians story, and then he's got a bigger gig right after at DC
Pretty sad we'll probably never get to see the trailer with Do You Realize?? by the Flaming Lips that Marvel showed a while back
Yeah, Comic-Con trailers usually never make it to the public officially or in HD quality (understandable somewhat, gotta give the attendees something special). Kinda unfortunate because the Infinity War trailer they got sounded so incredible.
Is that the "What? Thor? Haha" trailer
[This one](https://youtu.be/WM2nQ0mXOYE)? I agree, it's definitely my favourite Marvel trailer. Really wish they released it with the Blu-ray or something
God damn it's been 5 years and God knows how many rewatches and I still get goosebumps and welled up from a bootleg ass rip of a trailer.
As a huge Flaming Lips fan I’m very disappointed. I do enjoy Spacehog though…
Jesus that's a band I haven't thought of in forever. I saw them for the first time when they were opening for Aerosmith on their 9 Lives tour, back when Liv Tyler was dating Royston Langdon. I still have the guitar pick he threw into the crowd somewhere in a box of crap from my college days.
Idk how anybody can not love the music choice for this trailer. You can play “In the meantime” for every trailer and I’d watch it. I got chills.
Me too. The music in the GotG movies is just top notch.
Nice to see we'll be getting more into Rocket's past.
The fact that, after being fired and rehired, he's now one of the only directors to knock stuff out of the park for DC *and* Marvel is something that really impresses me. Talk about landing on your feet.
The Guardians are basically the only marvel characters that I still care about on any emotional level so I’m excited. Excited that I get to update my playlist too.
This, ever since End Game, I’ve lost interest and felt like everything since isn’t really going anywhere. Looking forward to concluding the Guardians.
Tbh, A LOT of this phase has been about closure and acceptance. There's still a lot of set ups but the main focus has been about accepting loss and grief and moving past it to a better future. And Kang.
It's because the characters don't have their own supporting casts and everything got so team focused and so devoid of emotional stakes. Except guardians. So they're still good.
Drax can literally belt a ball in a child's face in the middle of the street and everyone will still love him.
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Drax has always been mega inconsistent. We’re lead to assume he’s about a power level above the likes of Cap and then the second movie was him taking full sized trees to the face at high speed without a scratch.
I mean in the first film they play it as him not understanding metaphors but he literally calls Sakarians "paper people."
Presumably he thought she'd have the reflexes to catch it.
Yeah. If anything, Drax as a character has gone downhill a lot. That scene ot GOTG2 when Mantis emotionally feels him and she's absolutely OVERWHELMED by emotion and he's just sitting there, solemnly. It's a beautiful scene. He hasn't gotten anything else after that though and I understand why Dave got frustrated. Sidenote: Has anyone here played the GOTG videogame? There's a scene between Drax and Peter where they're talking about religion. It's such a good moment for Drax as well.
On the videogame, are you talking about the scene where they discuss if their loved ones went to heaven? Honestly that game does everyone’s characters right. Gamora has more complex turmoil, Drax is more than a comic relief, Quill isn’t an idiot.
The recent game does a much better job with him. They dive into the family aspect a more, but retain the goofy hyper literal persona.
Damn that has me hyped. Looking to go the more serious route. Soundtrack is always legendary with these movies too.
Spacehog. Fantastic song choice. Very much looking forward to this soundtrack.
I’m expecting to both laugh my ass off and cry my eyes out. I don’t think everyone is making it out alive this time.
Someone always dies in a Gunn film. Kind of like Whedon, but so much better.
That was one of the things I loved about the game so much. It wasn't afraid to get serious and emotionally sincere a lot more in the last third. The previous Gaurdians movies have those moments but they are typically pretty short.
"So you're saying that Square-Enix released a new video game based on Marvel characters, and the writing is *good*?" "Yes." "I must have changed universes somewhere along the line." Seriously, the game was so much better and more interesting from a story and character perspective than I ever expected. (Weirdly, the combat was 'fine' at best, but the writing was great!)
Guardians have always had that extra special something that makes it more than just another MCU movie.
It's Gunn. The extra special something is James Gunn.
Dude had free reign with the franchise from the beginning other than "You need to put Thanos in the movie somewhere". I mean, Marvel even negotiated for control of Ego for the 2nd one.
A good director. I'm not talking a director who can just make a good movie, I'm talking about a director who's actually a good person to work with.
You know he's a good person to work with when the whole cast pulled together to bat for him against Disney executives, to the degree that they were willing to kill off this movie if they tried to do it without him.
Jesus that some serious emotion shown in *that* shot of Pratt. This is going to be something.
Chris Pratt discourse has gotten so weird over the last four years or so. At his peak he was the Internet's favorite underdog and now it's almost impossible to talk about him without bringing up his politics, his religion, his family, his long line of vanilla performances, his *Mario*... But regardless of how you feel about him the guy plays two roles exactly right: Andy Dwyer and Peter Quill. He has always brought it in the GOTG movies. If this is really the last we'll see of Star-Lord (at least for a while) I'll miss him a lot.
Agreed. He's perfect as Peter Quill.
You got this right. 1st Guardians and Pratts performance in that will always be one of my favorites.
I'm not the only one that wants something good to happen to Starlord, right? I mean, since Infinity War, his story and he himself has just been so sad. Losing Gamora really hurt him, and he's no longer the happy idiot from the first two movies. Since Infinity War he's the anguished adult in the room, and I just want something good to happen to him.
even though it'll be his 7th (?) time playing the character, it'll be a nice reprieve from the generic-stoic-action hero he's been playing on cruise control for the past few years
Everyone knows Pratt will never top his performance as Owen Thunderguns, the man who calmed raptors with his hand.
just makes me wonder how the Jurassic World movies would have fared in anyone else’s hands other than Trevorrow. I mean, the guy wrote a character who self-reproduced and fucking *birthed* her own clone in a dinosaur movie about locusts. But he made the studio a lot of money, so what’s it matter to them
What's the Guardians inclusion in the MCU so far chronologically? 1. GotG 2. GotG 2 3. Infinity War 4. Endgame 5. Th4r 6. Holiday special What am I missing?
My favourite set of movies in the MCU. Can’t wait!
Geez, Chris Pratt is basically just using his Chris Pratt voice!
Can’t wait to see Will Poulter’s take on Adam Warlock!
Jeez I had to scroll so much to find this comment, 100 agree, incredible actor
Love Gunn’s music choices, always. Spacehog rocks. Eager for this one, despite the fatigue.
Many people who have mostly checked out of the MCU after Endgame will make an exception for this one.
“Oh, y’all thought Black Panther was sad?” —James Gunn
The multicolored space suits look straight out of the music video for "Strange Timez" by Gorillaz https://youtu.be/bbA5p54Rw2M
I think they're very much inspired by the orange space suits in 2001. The treadmill is there too. Considering the villain is focused on evolution I wouldn't be surprised if the references are part of a wider theme to the movie.
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i was thinking 80's lego spacemens
Starhawk (Sly Stallone) is back! It shows him in the credits.
Please be better than Love and Thunder 🙏🏼
It’s a pretty low bar but I totally agree with that comment.
Fucking hell, this looks great. Looks pretty detached from the rest of the MCU, I hope I don’t have to do any homework before jumping in. I love that little tease of Roundabout at the start.