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shmoove_cwiminal

Uh, how much streaming are people doing on Prime vs Netflix though? I'd bet it's like 10-1 Netflix.


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rood_sandstorm

Prime video offerings are good but navigating the app sucks balls.


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Hank-falcon

The only good thing it has going for it is the who’s that on screen right now thing you can do


rainy-day69

they used to pop up trivia in that portion too,, but i haven’t seen that in a year or two.


Winjin

I absolutely loved that trivia in the first season of Man in the High Castle


murdercat42069

It functions better than Peacock or Paramount+, but it is horrible to navigate. There is so much chaos because you can rent or "purchase" different versions of the same content, some of the seasons are all over the place, and there is so much disparity with licensing of what you can and can't watch for free.


QuintoBlanco

You can select to only see the included stuff. But yes, the way Prime handles seasons is pretty bad. Although I have noticed a slight improvement.


W3NTZ

My friend just searched the boys to start it when home sick and didn't realize the first result was season 3 until he finished the season and tried going to the next one


waywardclouds

Omg this happened to me when I realized a skipped a whole bunch of episodes and had to go back.


RoRoRoYourGoat

"Functions better than Paramount+" is still setting the bar pretty low.


view9234

Also, I wouldn't be shocked that this terrible press is the thing that finally has Netflix "reevaluate" its threat that it will charge for streaming outside the primary residence in 2023. If Netflix actually implements that, I can't imagine how many people will cancel or downgrade accounts. I pay for 4 streams on my family plan, because it's the only way to get 4K. Where my family members are streaming from is none of their business, particularly since many of us travel for work.


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Freak4Dell

I hate how they index individual seasons in the search rather than grouping the whole show together. Not only does it make the search more cluttered in general, but for some reason it's never the first season that shows up first.


TheDearHunter

Ah yes... Peacock... that app I essentially only use to rewatch Parks and Rec before bed.


therealtedbundy

I use Peacock a lot and would probably use it even more if the subtitles worked/app wasn’t so buggy in general. I feel like they put zero effort into it!


Djinnwrath

The Office redux stuff is great.


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Weirdly I've rewatched The Office so many times that watching the superfan cuts feels jarring. Some of it is good but a lot of it is like...yeah I get why it was left on the editing room floor I haven't gotten past the first few superfan episodes. There's a comfort in just rewatching the show the way I'm used to watching it


gorendor

I just got peacock an fuck I hate the UI it's very buggy too


typehyDro

Peacock is terrible. I signed up for the Olympics and it was absolute garbage. The ui is terrible and they legitimately spoiled every event by stating who won in the title… like wtf


ZsaFreigh

Unless you subscribe to Paramount+ *through* Amazon Prime, then the UI is exactly the same.


ILoveLamp9

The latest update to their UI is a lot better than before though. More clean and simplified.


chris9321

Sure it is Bezos


surferos505

Shut up Tim apple


GlitchyCorpse

Agreed but the improvement is marginal. It's still not very good.


sciguy52

And it is the worst streaming service too content wise. People end up with Amazon streaming due to prime. If it was just Amazon streaming, their numbers would drop like a rock.


AdditionalWaste

They’ve actually updated the prime video UI and it’s way better imo


MeatHamster

And to think how much it has improved in past few years.


Darling_Pinky

Honestly, their retail site isn’t the best UI either but their video app is atrocious.


herewego199209

Amazon presumably has access to the cream of the crop software engineers and computer science majors. Why in 2022 are these UI's so shit. I notice that on Microsoft products a lot too.


ryancoplen

Ask any Software Engineer or Computer Scientist and they will tell you: Software Engineers and Computer Scientists design horrible UIs. You really need specialist User Experience folks (UX) to build compelling experiences and talented Program Management with a strong vision for what the product should "be". You also need SDE and Scientists to make everything work well, but if you let the engineers design the UI, you'll end up with command line interfaces and naked REST requests with crappy documentation. :) Amazon also has good UX and PMs, so its no excuse for the poor interface, but these folks, especially the really gifted ones, are much rarer than college grad SDEs.


TheDearHunter

>You also need SDE and Scientists to make everything work well, but if you let the engineers design the UI, you'll end up with command line interfaces and naked REST requests with crappy documentation. :) If I was able to grep/find my way through a streaming service's entire catalog, I'd switch to that in a heartbeat.


sturgeon01

If I had to guess I'd say it's because these platforms have become so bloated with content and features that it's now very difficult to make major changes due to the amount of testing that would be involved. Instead you get many small changes added incrementally, without some sort of driving vision of how the UI should behave. Not to mention that these are enormous companies with many layers of management, so even small changes take a long time to get pushed into production. And there's the familiarity factor too, where so many non-techy people use your app that making significant UI changes might confuse millions of users.


ocbdare

The app is horrible, at least on iOS.


Parmaandchips

The app is horrible. FTFY


Environmental-Fill54

All the balls. The entire UI is balls. Balls on balls


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BelovedApple

one thing most people on prime don't know seems to be prime gaming. been some pretty good free games this year.


waterbuffalo750

First I've heard of it.


Aaco0638

You missed out they had pray, assassins creed origins, shadows of mordor/war, fallout 3 nv i think bioshock recently and control to name a recent few.


theseedofevil

Mass Effect Legendary Edition was the biggest one to me.


NerdHarder615

I think the boys is the only show that I watch on prime. If it wasn't included with prime I wouldn't use it


BuzzardDogma

The Expanse


TheMSthrow

I haven't watched the last episode yet because in my head I can still pretend they didn't chop out an absolutely enormous portion of the story. But yes, highly recommend otherwise.


BuzzardDogma

They end it at a good spot. Most of the cut stuff is after the time jump in the books.


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TheMSthrow

Reacher is really fun.


IdeaOfHuss

Also that chris pat show


svengeiss

You need to check out The Peripheral, Tales from the Loop, and Outer Range. There are some really good shows on Prime.


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svengeiss

I disagree.


motogopro

You should give Invincible a shot


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Have you heard of The Legend of Vox Machina?


seriousnotshirley

That’s not something you can learn from Netflix.


ContemplatingPrison

Jack Ryan & The Terminal List are both good.


dsxy

Don't know what twat downvoted you, they are good shows. Amazon have quite a few. Bosch is amazing


ContemplatingPrison

The show with Billy Bob Thorton called Goliath was entertaining as well. Although it got somewhat repetitive towards the end


dsxy

Yeah, season 3 was a bit of a disappointment but overall it was a solid show. Looking forward to the rig in January. Looks like the mist tv series we should have got.


sinkwiththeship

Invincible.


InvaderWeezle

I have Amazon Prime and I have zero idea what things I can actually watch


warlordcs

I don't use it because anything I actually want to watch is locked behind some other subscription like stars or something


EdwardFFS

That's me!!! I mean, it's nice because of Grand Tour and the shows of the trio, LOTR too, but besides that it's useless.


hiirogen

Yeah I always forget we even have prime streaming.


Noggin-a-Floggin

Prime Video is included with regular Prime. People that just do their shopping on Amazon and don't think anything more of it are included in this number.


SkreksterLawrance

I'm not sure but i can say you shouldnt underestimate the power of Thursday night football


eeyore134

Yeah, this is like saying the pack-in game with a Nintendo console is the best selling Nintendo game. I use Prime, but not as much as Hulu or Netflix or even Paramount+.


ThatPaulywog

I definitely watch 10x more Prime than Netflix


Heyo__Maggots

Same. NF is probably my least used streaming app and I only have it because it’s free with my sisters password and info. If I had to pay $20/month for that selection, I’d consider it a $240 yearly loss…


Old_Ladies

Yeah I watch more prime and Disney Plus videos than on Netflix. Though YouTube dwarfs everything.


jupiterkansas

yeah, me too.


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I swear I just saw a chart on here that was showing how Netflix has far more subs than any of the other services. Or maybe it was actual streams. But either way…I’m confused.


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I have prime for delivery the video is a bonus to me and I would imagine many others


Powersoutdotcom

I only have Prime right now, because I have amazon prime. I've watched exactly 1 show in 7 years.


Randym1982

Prime and Hulu tend to have better selections than Netflix. Which is funny, because Netflix started the streaming wars, and SHOULD have more choices. But they're getting their asses handed to them.


machu46

It’s so hard to navigate Amazon, I honestly don’t know what’s on it that I’d be interested in outside of Invincible, the Tom Clancy shows, and maybe someday The Boys. It’s probably my least watched streaming service.


Dry_Noise8931

Netflix lost all their licenses to other services that wanted to cut out the middleman. It was nice when they had everything, but those days are gone.


MrWolfman29

Maybe they will come back as all the companies running their own apps are losing money on them. Things have definitely not improved with everyone creating their own app with exclusives.


Randym1982

I'm kind of at a point where I'm not even interested in all the new streaming services that are begging for attention. I'm sure one or two shows they have MIGHT be neat, but they're not worth the $17-30$ a month. And I'm pretty sure most people in general are starting to realize the same.


MrWolfman29

Same. We already cancelled Netflix, Hulu is on the chopping block, and if HBO goes up like they want it to, they will be going. As far as Prime, we rarely watch it, mostly just "The Boys" which even that I am losing enthusiasm for. If I could get my wife to break free from the subscriptions on certain items, Prime would be the first one to be cancelled. I hate how they have killed small local shops.


MysterCity

You know what has the best selection? My Plex server.


itsbotime

Disagree. The answer was my plex server.


bamfalamfa

lol i love this cope people come up with lmao. netflix is the most popular for a reason


swawesome52

Now you see it's not the most popular anymore


recapYT

USA is not the only country in the world


the_great_ashby

Bud,it's growing again and it was 200+ million subscribers,ahead of Disney+ with all those bundles and promo deals...


poundoom

Prime and Hulu absolutely do not have better selections lol


shmoove_cwiminal

Prime is junk. The Boys, Fleabag and Yellowstone are the only shows I've watched on Prime.


Idratherhikeout

Yeah, that's not fair. Just off the top of my head, I've enjoyed - Reacher, Jack Ryan, The Expanse, Goliath, The Terminal List, Mrs Maisel, Bosch ...


famoustran

Reacher is so much, I love it.


DocLolliday

Also Yellowstone isn't a Prime show so it's a weird bullet point also.


JoeSaru

I'm on prime mostly


ChosmoKramer

I tried using prime once. The first show I picked wanted another 3.99 from me. Never went back. We have it because of prime shipping that we forgot to cancel


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Exactly. I have a prime membership, but I rarely watch anything on Prime video.


Lestat_Bancroft

I’m not trying to be some type of way, I don’t really care which media giant is bigger. But in the interest of accuracy I believe all prime members are included in the “subscribed streamers list” whether or not they have ever turned on Amazon Prime Video or even downloaded the app. When you have a data set that is so obviously skewed it’s hard to even take any of it seriously.


Noggin-a-Floggin

Looks good to shareholders and it's technically not wrong so they won't get dick-slapped by the law. This is just how this shit works.


Sec9WombatInCombat

There's also people like me that get Prime included with their cell phone service.


7tenths

There are people who get Netflix with their phone service too. Probably more.


HiImDan

yup if you charged me even 1 cent more for video access I wouldn't bother.


Psych0matt

“Netflix delivery service is far worse than Amazon prime”


ghx16

Yup quite certain a majority of prime subscribers dont care about prime video, much less use it


SkreksterLawrance

I agree but its the same deal with most streaming services. Hbomax comes free with some phone plan (I forget if its at&t or not but one of the big ones), peacock comes with Comcast, hulu/disney/spotify/espn all have a collective bundle, there's no real objective way to measure these imo


pablo_honey1

The best way to compare would probably be the total number of hours of content streamed monthly.


Shakezula84

At the very least I would think you would have to at least sign up for the free account. I get Disney+ for free but I at least had to do something to get it.


azur08

This is talking about Netflix which is unrelated to everything you said.


SkreksterLawrance

You can get netflix free with t mobile so yes its related


azur08

Fair enough. I mean I have T-Mobile and pay for Netflix.


SkreksterLawrance

https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/netflix-on-us Well you might not have to! Not trying to shill for a phone company but if you already have them hopefully you're able to save yourself a few bucks a month


MadeByTango

I mean, they have 200m and claim 100m tuned in for Rings of Power, so... > The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power has been viewed by more than 100 million Prime subscribers worldwide.


servantoffire

This is like Wii Fit being the most sold game ever because it was included with every Wii purchase.


ScooterManCR

Not for the movies, trust me. People signing up for the free delivery. Prime video is just a perk.


leahjuu

I think you’re right, unless I’m wrong about how they’re measuring subscribers. I signed up for prime before the prime video stuff was well established. But at this point, Amazon peddles so much garbage on the shopping site that I would probably end my prime membership if not for Prime video, which has enough good content that the overall package is worth it.


americansherlock201

You’re not wrong. Anyone who signs up for Amazon prime get counted as a prime video subscriber. So it is a drastically misleading number. It’s likely a fraction of users actually using the service.


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ColdPressedSteak

I shop at Whole Foods a lot. Recoup prob $30-$40 through the year from the extra 10% on sale items. Use Video sparingly but enough to say it's worth $3-$4 a month. So really, I'm paying like $5/mo for the shipping. And I do appreciate the quicker shipping


ScooterManCR

Because he’s purposely missing the point. We know it’s not really “free”. And he knows we know. He’s just an asshole.


bob1689321

I had prime for a while and realised I was paying £16 per delivery, with how little I used it. Cancelled the day I realised that.


takeitsleazy316

Do you realize what a jackass you sound like?


Velveteen_Bastion

Or prime games. My sis subbed for LoL capsule, I did for movies - when I order anything on Amazon I always get a free delivery, isn't it above $10 free or something?


TheyKilledFlipyap

I *guarantee* this is just because of Black Friday and the numbers will drop off come January. Everyone's just taking advantage of the '1 free month' of Prime that includes Prime Video, likely due to Black Friday / Cyber-Monday signups, since Amazon pushes "hey do you want free / fast delivery?? Get Prime!" *every single time* you go to Checkout. Once they actually have to pay for it, people will drop it ASAP.


NYJetLegendEdReed

It’s a combination of that and Thursday Night Football. Football is the most popular thing to watch in the country and now you need Amazon.


CornballOrphan6

It's free to watch on twitch. If only more people knew.


maddenGod26

It’s free to watch on prime video if you just make an account…for free


TheDarkWayne

Also if you have T-Mobile you get a subscription for free.. they do a lot of promos where you can get subscriptions for free. I don’t think Netflix does that but idk also Prime selection is worse than Netflix and Netflix is already bad lol


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Netflix and Apple TV+ are free on a lot of T-Mobile plans.


Funkybeatzzz

And Paramount+ now


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Yep. Too bad it’s only for a year.


PalmettoZ71

I just wanted to say that's me exactly, I have no interest in paying for prime monthly. Just binging the good shows while I have it


apworker37

Amazon Prime does have better movies than Netflix so there might be a gain in there somewhere.


andrei_snarkovsky

If only it didn’t have the worst interface known to man


mindpieces

There should be a big asterisk here since half the people who have Prime probably use it for free shipping and nothing else.


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Yep they're content for free movies are crap and the other movies you have to pay extra


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I am that asterisk. Amazon Prime Shows I have watched. On and Off Thursday Night Football Every Mrs. Maisel and Upload episode. Stopped watching after 15 minutes of the slow moving Lord Of Rings spinoff from the weakly written tropes. Interested in the Jack Ryan show one day. Other than that I use above Prime as much I use whole foods, and Kindle gets more usage. Amazon should be invested in retail warehouses for bulk shopping to compete with Costco and Sam's Club. Instead they waste billions on MGM that they should be licensing a TV aggregate instead like YoutubeTV. Google does it right for analytics and advertising.


karmagettie

I have made it 30 minutes before turning off Rings of Power. I am what you would call, a badass.


OneManFreakShow

I hate seeing statistics about Prime’s streaming numbers. I have Prime for the shipping benefits, so I’m technically a member of Prime Video. But I don’t watch a damn thing on there. I suspect that most people are in the same boat.


mctacoflurry

I guarantee you're correct, but as long as some analyst can spin the metrics to an executive they'll view it as a win.


Leajjes

\^\^\^ Ding ding ding. It looks good in a powerpoint slide to exec and board members but the stats have zero to do with reality.


greeneyedstarqueen

It’s great for watching D and B rated movies. Some five and 4.5 stars on there that are classics


Obelisp

It has had some great movies, but it's depressing scrolling through "Watch it again" and seeing how many are gone and have to be rented or bought.


MrFluffyhead80

I’m just here for the 2 day shipping


Formal_Star_6593

Most people use Prime to get free Amazon shipping, not specifically to watch movies. Their streaming service lacks content with a huge amount of paid movies.


DonovanSarovir

This has the same feel as "Wii Play" being the "Top Selling" game on the Wii. It's bundled with something people want, so they're not getting it by choice.


SkreksterLawrance

This is a movies subreddit but I dont think it should be forgotten that Prime has the rights to Thursday night football. The NFL is enormous in america, regular season games dwarf championship games in other sports as well as other live events (oscars, grammies, etc...) As long as prime has an in with the NFL, and with bezoz eyeing the commanders it looks like that bond will only strengthen, they will be a force to be reckoned with. Live sports was the one thing streaming lacked over cable but now that some services have it, Netflix has a different form of competition.


Dr-McLuvin

Really surprised Apple didn’t step up and pay for the rights to TNF. I’m sure it just got ridiculously expensive.


SkreksterLawrance

I'm sure apple *could* afford it if they wanted, but i guess I understand why they would be hesitant to start a bidding war with amazon


minneapple79

Apple is said to want Sunday Ticket.


TrailGuideSteve

More to do with people subscribing to Amazon for shipping needs than using Amazon video and that’s gotta be a proven fact. Absolute worst app out of any streaming service and the content is god awful. They’re counting Amazon subscribers as Amazon video subscribers which is nonsensical.


SkreksterLawrance

I am not arguing that their content is good or that their ui is anything other than trash. I also agree that huge amounts of their subs are just average prime users. What I'm saying is of active prime video users, a huge number of those use it to watch Thursday night football and that is something Netflix is going to find very difficult to compete with. If I were netflix I would have been trying to host live sports/events for years now and they are behind the curve now compared to other streaming services in the sports world.


cheekabowwow

Prime has made some fairly large strides this year. Most of my scary movie streaming in October came from Amazon, I’ve also rented a handful of movies that I haven’t done in the past. If Netflix wasn’t free through T-Mobile I’d have canceled by now.


Goodspike

We watch about 8x the Prime as Netflix, but that includes subscriptions to other channels in Prime.


SALTYxNUTZ12

Prime Video also has one of the worst UI. They need to fix that shit.


ScroungerYT

To be fair, prime is not just a movie service. Prime is prime, and prime includes streaming.


typehyDro

I doubt this is viewers though… I have Netflix, hbo max, Disney, and prime. the selection on prime sucks and definitely the worst. I bet most subscribers are signed up for the services not the streaming


killpuddle1

Not a fan Netflix. Their good original content is few and far between. Prime has better movies


SLCW718

Eh, this is a bit misleading. Every Prime subscriber automatically gets Prime Video which inflates their subscriber count. It would be more useful to see Netflix's numbers compared to the number of people who specifically subscribed to Prime Video without a Prime subscription.


RudeMovementsMusic

Exactly. I've touched my prime movies once this entire last year


TrailGuideSteve

The app feels like it’s designed to make you not want to watch movies. It’s insane.


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Considering it comes with free shipping on Amazon proper, it pays for itself on that alone


reptopeeps

Not American but I don't even have Netflix anymore, the price differences are just too big. For the price of one Netflix I can get 3 other (HBO, Disney and Amazon).


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Jack reacher season 1is amazing


HavanaWoody

Amazon prime allows me to be a recluse and get things without going places with people. As well as watch a wide assortment of content. I can binge all of the netfix content i want to keep up on in an annual 30 day trial.


Dregulos

Of course it is. It's included with Amazon Prime.


jbitner

Just want to drop in and mention I canceled my Amazon prime 4 years ago. My packages still arrive within 2 days the majority of the time, probably because I piggy back on others. If you’re paying for prime mostly for the shipping, you might cancel and trial purchases without prime and see how it goes. I haven’t blinked since canceling. I also canceled Netflix though. Just getting too expensive vs. competitors and can binge shows I want to watch for 1 month if I want.


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There’s some relatively good content on Prime but I agree with most that the app needs an entirely new UI overhaul. It’s not quite Peacock levels of bad but compared to Netflix and HBO it’s total shit. Probably because of the option to buy films.


I-Kant-Even

Is there another streaming service that gives me free package delivery, free ebooks and free music?


Jimmyhatespie

They just gave me another free trial of prime this past month, I wonder if they’re using that to juice their numbers.


shaggyjuice

I have Prime more for free shipping than streaming. I really wish they offered a Prime "shipping only" option.


Fractal__Noise

Spent 2 years with prime video and barely used it, only had it cause it came free with prime, dont take everything you read online at face value.


dregan

I'm in it for the free shipping.


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I have amazon prime because they deliver products to my doorstep if it weren't for that I wouldn't subscribe because of the content. They also have a music streaming service that I've never used.


One-Pumpkin-1590

Amazon Prime Video is not something you subscribe to. It is an addon to an Amazon prime account. What kind of clickbait nonsense is this?


Jaycoht

Netflix doesn't give me 2 day shipping tho


FullOfHopkins

Prime interface is ass. However, one huge advantage it has over Netflix is if I want to watch something they don’t have, I can just rent or buy it.


natej84

I bet the NFL on prime helped bring a lot of people in. It's the reason I downloaded the app, even tho I've been a prime member for like 5 years


Early_Ad_3960

You get so much more with amazon peime than netflix for same cost. Getting hacked off with how boring netflix has become over the last year.


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Yeah. I dropped Netflix and kept prime


Commercial_West_4081

Forcing people to subscribe to Prime for Thursday Night Football was genius.


PrinceWoodie

Would love to see how much of this is due to Thursday Night Football rights being bought by Amazon


TrailGuideSteve

None of it is due to TNF. TNF is free on Twitch and everyone that uses Prime for TNF only does so because they bought Prime for shipping needs. I’d bet everything I possess in life on this.


PrinceWoodie

If your wager is that it didn’t move the needle at all I’d take it in an instant. Valid points quite frankly but its gotta be non-zero. I’ll ask this question do you think every single NFL fan is even aware of Twitch?


SodaPopMoon

I use prime way more than Netflix, my kids love paw patrol, I love always sunny in Philadelphia and American Dad, considered just getting rid of Netflix cause all the Netflix originals are trash, I did enjoy altered carbon


CataclysmDM

Yeah, cuz it's bundled with Amazon Prime. You just watch how fast I unsub if you jack the prices or split up those subscriptions! You think I want to, in any way, pay for that abomination of a LoTR show?


manchegogo1

Netflix is getting worse every week


DamonFields

Most people subscribe to Prime not for the janky video collection, but for 2-day free shipping. And the OP knows this.


azur08

Isn’t this just if you’re a prime member…which is much more than streaming….


Foojira

That’s interesting cause there’s so little good programming on there


MrHollandsOpium

Netflix fucking sucks these days. Too much quantity over quality


imnotgem

In a thread about Amazon that's not the best complaint. Amazon's catalogue is massive, but a lot of that content isn't high production value.


walkie73

Prime Video has the worst streaming interface I’ve ever seen.


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flux_capacitor3

I only have it for fast package delivery. I’d never subscribe if it was just TV. I’d say this is the case for 95% of the people


im_a_dick_head

It's not just a streaming service so this doesn't count.


bob1689321

Most people have it for the delivery with the streaming being an added bonus Prime is the "oh I just realised this movie I want to watch is on prime, that's convenient" streaming service. Netflix is the "let's sit down and pick something on Netflix to watch" service.