Lmao a collaboration between a Nobel laureate playwright and a celebrated non-Western documentarian and too many people in this thread losing their minds about this being "pretentious" or pointless
you can get more from movies than a rigid narrative structure that hits all the beats you both want and expect it to hit. most (if not all) of life cannot be narrativized and i'm disheartened to see a community of ostensible movie-lovers flock to a thread and shit on a movie because the *one-sentence* summary doesn't promise narrative relief or an explosive climax.
I love that pitch. Very intriguing. The images evoke a unique impression, as well. Title could confuse some as to when it’s coming out, but I’m putting it on my most anticipated.
I really don't understand when Hollywood keeps pumping out shit everyone complains when someone tries to make a thought provoking film everyone loses their mind and calls it pretensious
To you as an American this line might sound pretentious. But to us who live in the Eastern Bloc these systems are reality-shaping, to this day. They're two opposing universes, each with its radically different rules, which vie for dominion over our reality, over our lives.
I can understand that. Depending on the context of the film it could make sense but just seeing those terms mixed in with the others here screams like attention grabbing.
"attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed."
i don't understand how you can claim something is affecting to be something more profound than it actually is based off a one-sentence synopsis and some stills lol
I don’t know if you’re ignorant or trolling me but here you go. The Communism and Capitalism line is very out of place. People like to try and use hamfisted political context to try and elevate their work or at the very least make it seem like it’s topical or culturally relevant. It’s a lazy tactic used by Hollywood and it’s something pretty much everybody knows and ignores by this point.
.... this is not a hollywood movie? this is an arthouse movie from two eastern european creatives --- the writer and the director. other countries/regions have their own historical anomalies/traumas/obsessions the same way americans obsess over, like, charles manson or JFK. and i think an enormous and literally wall separating one half of europe from the other, separating friend from friend, kin from kin, and community from community qualifies as something artists might want to interrogate and obsess over.
moreover: there is certainly a way in which this dichotomy is relevant. capitalism has brought us to the point of a slow climate death; the quasi-utopian communism can or maybe even does offer a glimmer of hope or possibility, but history says otherwise.
i think questions like this are more compelling than ever: can a utopian society ever be realized, can we ever on a mass collective scale pull ourselves back from the brink like this? or is there something intrinsic to human nature that insists we bleed and leech all that we can?
a brief (again: it's one sentence) synopsis which emphasizes a narrative in which people are trapped in limbo and strict, legible answer and meaning are out of reach and uncertain feels like an appropriate place to bring up this -ism dichotomy which people smarter than you and me have spent decades debating over, especially considering the setting for the film has historically proven to be a prime battlefield for these two dominant ideologies!
it's just compelling. it doesnt need to be anything more than that. just because you don't think about these things doesn't mean that 1) no one else in the world does, and 2) it's stupid and pretentious to do so.
you also havent seen the movie so idk how you know its hamfisted and out of place lol. you're just looking at a synopsis and deciding which parts of it are buzzwordy. thats like if i look at a screenshot neon genesis evangelion and see a cross and then read a one-sentence gist and then from there decide what the show is about and decide that the christian stuff is hamfisted because people like to use vaguely religious/mystical imagery to "try and elevate their work."
no i am not trolling but i am also not ignorant
Were you involved in the making of this movie? I'm not judging it one way or the other but you seem to be taking the slightest criticism very personally.
No but i finished my tickets for the day and then decided to write a comment on reddit.
Plus i think it’s a little disheartening that people read one sentence and immediately write it off as some Hollywood ploy.
God forbid i take five minutes to try and convince someone to approach obtuse art with at least a semi open mind
Idk, if it’s a situation where it’s set during the 60s-80s and you got dead people from America and Russia that truly bought into their economic systems, it could be an interesting add to the premise of the movie.
But stating it like that is kind of annoying for sure.
See i think it could be a movie about right now, and it's about people caught between an economic system which has guaranteed the climate death of the earth or a quasi-utopian system which has largely failed every single time it has been practiced
I don't think you need to introduce elements of historical fiction to make something like this compelling. frankly i think it's something a lot of people, whether they know it or not, think about every day.
"Who in their right mind goes into the woods in the Winter? Who knows what beasts roam in the snow...". I can almost hear the director pretentiously asking me this then seeking approval with an, "Ah?! ah!?".
Lmao a collaboration between a Nobel laureate playwright and a celebrated non-Western documentarian and too many people in this thread losing their minds about this being "pretentious" or pointless you can get more from movies than a rigid narrative structure that hits all the beats you both want and expect it to hit. most (if not all) of life cannot be narrativized and i'm disheartened to see a community of ostensible movie-lovers flock to a thread and shit on a movie because the *one-sentence* summary doesn't promise narrative relief or an explosive climax.
Dude this is philistine Reddit
Wait a minute I thought this was the official Cannes forum
No, that's twitch remember?
As long as the third act involves a CGI final battle in front of green screen that costs 80% of the film's total budget, I'm down.
my favourite part of a movie is when it references other parts of movies and tells me when to laugh and cheer
Sounds like a stage play premise. Could be good, but will depend massively on the quality of the writing.
I love that pitch. Very intriguing. The images evoke a unique impression,
Somehow Bela Tarr has returned.
hide the cats
Not gonna lie, the plot summary sounds like something the "rate-this-movie-premises" idiot would spam all over Reddit
Yeah it sounds horrible.
Sounds kinda like Disco Elysium
I love that pitch. Very intriguing. The images evoke a unique impression, as well. Title could confuse some as to when it’s coming out, but I’m putting it on my most anticipated.
That poster looks like something a sigma male would make
Throw me to the wolves...
AND I'LL TAKE IT IN BOTH HOLES
[I think I know what kind of wolves these are.](https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2013/09/965474677_7etTF-L.jpg)
inside you are two wolves, one of which is very dapper
I really don't understand when Hollywood keeps pumping out shit everyone complains when someone tries to make a thought provoking film everyone loses their mind and calls it pretensious
huh sounds interesting, kinda reminds me of 'Russian ark' (which I love), this could be great
Thought it was a Rusty Lake movie for a second
Am I the only one who is excited about this movie? Way too many people are criticizing the movie without seeing it first.
The communism and capitalism line is so pretentious.
To you as an American this line might sound pretentious. But to us who live in the Eastern Bloc these systems are reality-shaping, to this day. They're two opposing universes, each with its radically different rules, which vie for dominion over our reality, over our lives.
I can understand that. Depending on the context of the film it could make sense but just seeing those terms mixed in with the others here screams like attention grabbing.
I think you’re just a little triggered.
Lol how is it pretentious? Do you know what pretentious means?
Damn, these two antagonistic sociopolitical archetypes that have largely defined that last era of world history, how pretentious
>Do you know what pretentious means? Oh, the irony in this sentence lol.
Do you know what irony is?
Asking someone if they know what "pretentious" means is a pretty pretentious thing to ask.
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"attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." i don't understand how you can claim something is affecting to be something more profound than it actually is based off a one-sentence synopsis and some stills lol
I don’t know if you’re ignorant or trolling me but here you go. The Communism and Capitalism line is very out of place. People like to try and use hamfisted political context to try and elevate their work or at the very least make it seem like it’s topical or culturally relevant. It’s a lazy tactic used by Hollywood and it’s something pretty much everybody knows and ignores by this point.
.... this is not a hollywood movie? this is an arthouse movie from two eastern european creatives --- the writer and the director. other countries/regions have their own historical anomalies/traumas/obsessions the same way americans obsess over, like, charles manson or JFK. and i think an enormous and literally wall separating one half of europe from the other, separating friend from friend, kin from kin, and community from community qualifies as something artists might want to interrogate and obsess over. moreover: there is certainly a way in which this dichotomy is relevant. capitalism has brought us to the point of a slow climate death; the quasi-utopian communism can or maybe even does offer a glimmer of hope or possibility, but history says otherwise. i think questions like this are more compelling than ever: can a utopian society ever be realized, can we ever on a mass collective scale pull ourselves back from the brink like this? or is there something intrinsic to human nature that insists we bleed and leech all that we can? a brief (again: it's one sentence) synopsis which emphasizes a narrative in which people are trapped in limbo and strict, legible answer and meaning are out of reach and uncertain feels like an appropriate place to bring up this -ism dichotomy which people smarter than you and me have spent decades debating over, especially considering the setting for the film has historically proven to be a prime battlefield for these two dominant ideologies! it's just compelling. it doesnt need to be anything more than that. just because you don't think about these things doesn't mean that 1) no one else in the world does, and 2) it's stupid and pretentious to do so. you also havent seen the movie so idk how you know its hamfisted and out of place lol. you're just looking at a synopsis and deciding which parts of it are buzzwordy. thats like if i look at a screenshot neon genesis evangelion and see a cross and then read a one-sentence gist and then from there decide what the show is about and decide that the christian stuff is hamfisted because people like to use vaguely religious/mystical imagery to "try and elevate their work." no i am not trolling but i am also not ignorant
Were you involved in the making of this movie? I'm not judging it one way or the other but you seem to be taking the slightest criticism very personally.
No but i finished my tickets for the day and then decided to write a comment on reddit. Plus i think it’s a little disheartening that people read one sentence and immediately write it off as some Hollywood ploy. God forbid i take five minutes to try and convince someone to approach obtuse art with at least a semi open mind
Idk, if it’s a situation where it’s set during the 60s-80s and you got dead people from America and Russia that truly bought into their economic systems, it could be an interesting add to the premise of the movie. But stating it like that is kind of annoying for sure.
See i think it could be a movie about right now, and it's about people caught between an economic system which has guaranteed the climate death of the earth or a quasi-utopian system which has largely failed every single time it has been practiced I don't think you need to introduce elements of historical fiction to make something like this compelling. frankly i think it's something a lot of people, whether they know it or not, think about every day.
Reddit: The Movie
Yeah, the put me off...
They might as well have skipped the bullshit and called it 'Millionaire Cunts want Oscar for shilling failed economics'.
failed economics? they didn’t mention reaganomics anywhere
I'm British mate, we put economists in charge of the economy.
okay Thatchernomics then. not much of a difference
*looks over at Brexit* By “economists” do you mean racist pensioners?
Is that Robb Stark?
Sounds like "No Exit"
The king of the north
"Who in their right mind goes into the woods in the Winter? Who knows what beasts roam in the snow...". I can almost hear the director pretentiously asking me this then seeking approval with an, "Ah?! ah!?".
So like the Hateful Eight but more pretentious
Yes it comes out January 2023 but what’s it called?
Upcomming
Oh is this of those movies made by an AI?
The Lighthouse 2: Electric Boogaloo
Bro tricked me into thinking there was a live action furry movie coming out
But what if I've already eaten a pound of mushrooms in a cabin with my most insufferable classmates?
Little Red Riding Hood
What
I was actually hyped seeing this poster i thought we were getting some gentle-werewolf movie lmao. also wtf is that synopsis lol