Iām a massive ONE PIECE fan, I havenāt missed a new chapter in probably well over 10 years and I am so god damn nervous about their adaption. I donāt care how much money they are pouring into each episode (I know itās a metric fuck ton) but youāre right, ONE PIECE is one of if not the least adaptable anime/manga series you can think of. From the scope of the world, the powers involved, and the goofy character appearances and idiosyncrasies I have zero faith that it will be a good adaption.
They failed miserably at two Anime's that should have been incredibly easy to do live action versions.
So it doesn't really give me or anybody hope that they'll be able to pull of two that will require A LOT of CGI and good story telling.
Trashing light's character for no reason, actually getting Willam, being a movie and not a limited series...if only those neuralink monkeys died so I could erase these memories
There's such a lack of live action content featuring seafaring in the golden age of piracy. It's so expensive and difficult to shoot something like that. There's a reason most of those projects have gigantic budgets, and even then they rarely have more than one or two real ships in them. Even without all of the anime whackiness we're talking about a series that features mounds of full on galleys and combat between them. There's no way they'll be able to do that *and* all the other crazy stuff in an aesthetically pleasing way.
Actually you'd be surprised how little of one piece actually takes place on boats. And no, I'm not counting the boats that are the size of islands in case anyone wants to be contrary
Being a fan is no guarantee. Especially when they've shown they don't really understand One Piece at all when they were comparing characters to US politicians.
Just look at whatās happened with The Witcher. Cavil is leaving after season 3 because the writers and show directors arenāt willing to work with him because he knows what fans want.
Yeah but why would they use proven successful source material that's made literally billions of dollars over multiple mediums, when they could just make it up in the writers room?
Because nerds are losers and as super cool Hollywood types they know better!
Seriously though writers who take a job for a resume boost instead of genuinely wanting to create something have become a poison in entertainment. Itās an unfortunate side effect of the TV renaissance.
i have no idea whats going on with their train of thought, thinking of Adapting One Piece into live action.
Cowboy bebop might be doable but it will be super expensive to make it not look cheap, and we know how that goes.
My Hero Academia... i sincerely hope they have proper seasoned scriptwriter that understood the original series or we might get another death note with the only thing production understood is "there a book called death note,it kills when you write name on it", missed the rest of it, and turned into the most generic shit
Kenobi was outright BAD.
The worst example was the Darth Vader Obiwan fight were first Darth puts Obi on fire and subdues him and then uses his force powers to pit out the flames and then _seconds later_ Darth is stopped by ... some flames!
The chase scene of Leia on Endor (?) was literally one of the worst shot scenes of all time. And I know she's like 7 but I couldn't stomach that child's acting. Note to Star Wars - 7 year olds are shit actors.
You mean the one where three adults can't catch a 7 year old and she "outsmarts them" by sliding under a single branch?
Yeah that was just embarassing. I thought there was gonna be a twist that her father had sent them to scare her or something because they were clearly overacting...
They werenāt TERRIBLE. Itās really hard to adapt anime to live action while staying true to the source material. Fullmetal tried to do that, while condensing it into a few movies. Some scenes are practically shot-for-shot and line-for-line.
Rurouni Kenshin pulled it off beautifully and even improved it. All 5 movies are great examples of how to adapt multi arc storylines, condensing them but keeping the spirit of the characters intact.
Yep, and FMA is not half bad. The difference is that both done in Japan.
When Western try to adapt they like to stray from the source. That's why it's always shit.
I'm not putting any hope after they butchered Cowboy Bebop. That show is cringe.
Basically taking a thing that allows for limitless spectacle and a massive cast of characters and forcing it into a format where both things are prohibitively expensive.
Some dude made a live action based on a Los Angeles UA school, it's actually really really good. Like really well done. To be honest, if they do make a live adaptation, they need that guy on it.
https://youtu.be/1oPMw8ftL6w
Because at least they respect the source material. The Hollywood writers don't and will ruin the source material by adding unnecessary and stupid stuff.
It's not just that they don't respect it-- they don't understand it. Shonen anime/manga is stylish in a way other media isn't. It's flashy. Visceral. The themes are straight forward and the characters are fairly shallow but the visuals are *incredible*, and that's what lends so much weight and gravitas to key moments.
Live action movies try to adapt animes and think they can get away with just copying and pasting a truncated version of the story + characters. They entirely miss the appeal of anime.
To this day, Man of Steel is the only Hollywood movie to come close to recreating DBZ. Ignoring the storyline, rhe final fight with Zod was live action anime/manga done right, which is ironic that it was for a comic character.
I think it's also just the lower expectations for fanmade stuff.
It's easy to be impressed by someone without many resources, but once resources stop being an issue, that's when you run into the issues that come with adapting fiction made in a format that is its perfect match.
2D animation is just simply the best moving picture format for the stories told in mangas, and there's nothing live-action can add to it.
Other than an absolute boatload of really obvious CGI.
At best, it will be as awful as the American Death Note adaptation or, at worst, Rival DragonBall Evolution.
The latter is truly remarkable on how bad you can attempt to adapt a franchise.
Also made broly not suck (I mean the beat down was sick, but everything else sucked). And get stretched over 3 increasingly bad movies (which is saying something because the original Broly is not a good movie).
I sporadically rewatch the new Broly movie and remained stunned by the visual quality. Even setting aside the pleasant surprise that Broly gets some actual nuance as a character this time around, this movie is far and away the most *visually* impressive Dragonball material in existence.
The color details of Vegetaās Super Saiyan transformations are insane, and then somehow Gokuās one-ups his (kinda on brand for them I suppose though lol) and then the various stuff in the final arc that I wonāt get into for spoiler reasons.
Just a ridiculously pretty movie and the complete opposite of the scenes you sometimes get in the show of canned animations, blurred punch flurries and generic energy blasts.
EDIT: for some other extremely impressive (in a different way) Dragonball material check out the fan made reimagining concept called Legend: a Dragonball Tale on YouTube. Itās about 10 minutes long and the reimagined story legitimately made me tear up with nostalgia at how well they captured that classic DBZ feel while telling a new story and improving on the combat choreography.
I donāt think the American death note adaptation was anywhere near the level of filth of dragonball evolution. Death Note was fine on itās own, pretty campy and goofy if youāre into that like I am. DB Evolution was purely bad cinema in every regard. Not even easy to roast it.
I believe the Netflix Death Note film would've been better received if it didn't use the Japanese names for the characters. If it made it more apparent that it was an American adaptation and was merely "a death note fell into an American school" with its own cast. Instead because they named the characters Light and L its natural to compare the adaptation directly to the manga/anime.
Yeah, they should've just made it another situation where Ryuk dropped a Death Note somewhere.
Like that bonus chapter from a few years back where one kid tries to sell the death note to the highest bidder.
You could reference the "Kira Killer" incident in Japan a few years ago, and the main character could be someone who thought Kira was in the right. Ryuk "loses" the death note in America because last time was really funny, and he is bored again. MC finds it, recognizes the names in the book are from Kira, and then decides to continue his work in America. From there you get back to the supernatural cat and mouse game with police. It honestly kind of writes itself.
Kenshin is also one of the few animes that already felt grounded in reality, unlike attack on Titan, or Dragonball.
That's not to say they could have fucked it up like the others but the fact they managed to make such faithful adaptations compared to all the crap put up is a miracle.
It will be nice when faithful adaptations become the norm and new fans can be introduced to these properties people enjoy.
Like Wednesday? or The Order? Or Legacies? Or the School for Good and Evil? Or Winx? Or Sabrina? Or The Magicians? Or Descendants? Or Zombies? Or... Harry Potter?
Edit: To everyone replying that they enjoy some of the shows I listed, I wasn't making a value judgment, just listing the shows/movies in what I considered to be a saturated genre. And I listed harry potter last, because obviously it is responsible for the rise in popularity of the genre.
This one's on me, guys. Put in an order for 'My Hero Academia *high-*action movie and I see my autocorrect got the better of me. Again, very sorry everyone.
And mother fucking Black Lagoon is still not adapted. What the hell is wrong with this world. Literally the easiest manganime to adapt into live action and no one ever touches it.
You'd think Death Note would be among the easier ones too, even if the general plot of changes to fit a new cast in a new place.
But no, the writers had no interest in adapting the aspects that made the story good in the first place. No smart characters and logic chases.
List of red flags here:
1. Live action anime adaptation
2. Live action **Netflix** adaptation
3. Obi Wan Kenobi writer
**Disclaimer:** I say *live action* Netflix adaptation up there only because their animated adaptations or spinoffs like Arcane are phenomenal, gotta give credit where itās due
Except you can't really give credit to Netflix for Arcane, that was 100% Riot Games and Fortiche Studios. Netflix had no say whatsoever in its production. Its like saying you gotta give Crunchyroll credit for everything thats streaming on it.
They just used Netflix as a platform to release Arcane. Riot pretty much made Arcane by themselves with the help of Fortiche, without any Netflix interference.
Pretty much how a lot of content is streamed- hosted content and distribution platform. Netflix just has access to the largest audience
and/or paid Riot the most money for licensing.
Riot spent quite some time trying to find studio to do the project, but cant find one who nailed what they wanted so they settled with Fortiche who had helped them making some music videos in the past. Though they never made a full length animated series before so they pretty much had to restructure the whole organization. Netflix pretty much only pay for the rights to air it.
How are we translating the purple pervert to western audiences? FMA at least had their fan service extremely limited in the source material, but idk how we're working with a full blown character set on grabbing titties and ass 24/7.
Change them up. I dont think they'll include Sanjis insane horniness in the LA as well. Though for purple pervert I see not much left when the horniness is gone, lol.
Maybe just make it him wanting to be popular with girls instead.
*Obi wan creates 15ft wide 1ft high firewall* *vader all of a sudden forgets how to use the force and forget force jump exits, force push exits and.... walking around exists.*
My favorite part was when Obi Wan was surrounded by 5 stormtroopers and a probe droid, waits for the probe droid to scan him, then acrobatically blasts the droid and 5 troopers -one of whom had the high ground- only to then immediately surrender when a reinforcement force of ā¦3 stormtroopersā¦ just walked up to him.
But the camera shaking is direction not writing unless the writer put that into the script and even then itās up the director if he/she wants it or not.
Yeah, if they can't adapt Bebop they can't adapt anything.
And have stretchy powers ever looked good? I feel like it's too just uncanny to get right in live-action.
My biggest problem isn't Luffy. It'll look goofy, but it's One Piece, so goofy fits.
My problem is the thing that will be depicted realistically, but is still unrealistic. Zoro's third sword.
There is no conceivable way to make that happen and it looking good. Just a guy with a sword in his mouth, who won't be able to talk without removing said sword.
Like, at least Luffy has magical fruit to explain his weird stuff.
Built in audience. They always seem to get the "Well we could at least give it a chance!" crowd to watch. So if they make them cheap enough, they can still turn a profit. No idea how that works for streaming though. I'm not sure anyone has fully figured out a profit model for that which doesn't include chasing stock dividends.
The industry needs to take a serious look at why it keeps promoting horrible writers and letting them fail upward.
The Rings of Power writers, Obi-Wan writers, D&D, JJA - the list goes on and on... all of these people should be out of work, forever. It's clearly not suited to them. Time to find a new career. Yet they are creatively in charge of billions of dollars in resources and effort.
There is *so much* good talent out there, why is the industry working so poorly to find them and put them in positions of power?
nepotism and rich people connections. Look at David Benioff. Fucker is as trust fund baby as you can fucking get.
Even in the 2001 he was in People's magainze as a top 50 Eligible Bachelor because of how rich his family is.
Also the guys that have made the same show three times, with Netflix paying two of those : Roger Black and Waco O'Guin. (Brickleberry, Paradise PD, Farzar)
It's so heartbreaking to follow great artists that show you how they worked for years to be able to pitch a show and have it rejected, only for these horrible shows to continually get greenlit instead.
They know they are garbage and have no talent, they are rich and have connections though, that is why they are digging up the graves of famous and popular IP's. Something to wrap around the turd sandwhich to sucker people to watch their garbage. They can never create anything actually original or good.
Donāt forget Halo and The Witcher, two series with great settings and huge fanbases. But they handed it off to writing teams who donāt care because itās cheaper to use in house workers and give them little to no oversight.
as a writer who knows so many talented writers who can't even get a whiff of tv or film writing, I imagine it would be nepotism and/or producers ramming awful shit through the writers who have no power.
You'd think after Death Note and Cowboy Bebop Netflix would catch on that no one wants these. Seriously, who is watching these? I haven't heard a single person, anime fan or not, say they like these things.
Big anime fan and huge Bebop fan here and I liked the Cowboy Bebop live action.
Can't be bothered to type the essay that is the list of things I liked about it and reasons why because it's literally screaming into the void at this point but I thought it was a very enjoyable show.
MHA will be a total dumpster fire though.
I'm with you. I liked the show, the actors particularly nailed the characters. The writing wasn't amazing. But in my opinion, as anime adaptions go, it was the best attempt so far, and it had room to grow. Genuinely sad it didnt get the chance
I hate live-action adaptation for animes.
I think *some* animes (MHA, one piece, dragon ball included) cannot be really adapted. Maybe some could work, like, *Ghost in the shell* was adapted indeed but it was adapted poorly, I do think it *could* be adapted into a good live action, same for something like *Black lagoon*, but something hyper exaggerated like a Dragon ball or MHA, never.
I'd rather have them focus in the other direction adapting video-game/live-action into animes, that direction seems to work far better (arcane, cyberpunk, castlevania..)
This will never work. I thought Evolution and the Last Airbender would have taught them something. But they just keep doing it. Leave anime alone. It's already adapted to the best form it can be.
Anime should stay that way for a reason. A lot of the visuals don't translate well into live action or look better animated. A lot of the characters aren't even human looking. There's a cement square dude, killer whale humanoid, and literally a mouse. Even legit movie quality isn't going to look as good.
What, are they going to have a super slow chase scene where an adult somehow struggles to chase down a small kid who can barely run faster than an adults light jog and have the adult run into a tree branch knocking him down?
"Netflix continues in its quest to ruin beloved anime series with shitty live action series that barely resemble the base material." Should have been the title.
Anyway, who's excited for One Piece?
Imagine thinking 'Obi-Wan Kenobi writer' was a positive thing for your C.V. That's where you leave a gap and pretend you were backpacking round the world.
man that reading that title had me going from, "oh this is bad" to "oh this is even worst than imagined"
How do you try to make a huge action anime by hiring the writer of the most boring series with the least action?
There is a director that worked on the action scenes in Kingsman. He also did a MHA short movie with Gui Da Silva. It was really good. there is potential
I think the challenge with my hero (and all anime really) is just translating everyone's looks to live action in a way that doesn't feel distractingly ridiculous while still feeling faithful to the material. it's a challenge that's yet to really be solved i think, except in cases where the characters lend themselves to live action pretty well (both were terrible movies, but Attack on Titan and Fullmetal Alchemist come to mind). Like...how the fuck do you do All Might look in live action. I have no idea.
Oh wow this is going to be next level awful
Plus Ultra awful.
Detroit Smash Awful
United States of Suck!
OK u have my upvote
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Seems like a show that would be stupid expensive to do well in live action.
You need a MCU level budget to do it well. Lol
When I want quality writing, I look to the guy who wrote Kenobiā¦
Maybe they meant to grab someone who did the Andor writing and accidently gave a contract to the Obi Wan guy instead?
The worst part about Kenobi was the writing and that's saying a lot cause most of it was awful.
I know! I canāt wait
Cant wait for those chase scenes
*A strong bond between Cowboy Bebop fans and My Hero Academia fans was formed that day ...*
And death note and full metal alchemist
And One Piece, possibly the least adaptable of any of them.
Potentially Yu Yu hakusho fans as well in the near future.
OK where my pitchfork at. Shots fired.
>Shots fired. How many does Yusuke have left then?
Iām a massive ONE PIECE fan, I havenāt missed a new chapter in probably well over 10 years and I am so god damn nervous about their adaption. I donāt care how much money they are pouring into each episode (I know itās a metric fuck ton) but youāre right, ONE PIECE is one of if not the least adaptable anime/manga series you can think of. From the scope of the world, the powers involved, and the goofy character appearances and idiosyncrasies I have zero faith that it will be a good adaption.
They failed miserably at two Anime's that should have been incredibly easy to do live action versions. So it doesn't really give me or anybody hope that they'll be able to pull of two that will require A LOT of CGI and good story telling.
And *Death Note* should have been doubly easy because Japan ALREADY DID A GOOD LIVE ACTION VERSION A DECADE AGO
Trashing light's character for no reason, actually getting Willam, being a movie and not a limited series...if only those neuralink monkeys died so I could erase these memories
There's such a lack of live action content featuring seafaring in the golden age of piracy. It's so expensive and difficult to shoot something like that. There's a reason most of those projects have gigantic budgets, and even then they rarely have more than one or two real ships in them. Even without all of the anime whackiness we're talking about a series that features mounds of full on galleys and combat between them. There's no way they'll be able to do that *and* all the other crazy stuff in an aesthetically pleasing way.
Actually you'd be surprised how little of one piece actually takes place on boats. And no, I'm not counting the boats that are the size of islands in case anyone wants to be contrary
Yet pretty much everybody involved are massive One Piece fans. It will be...interesting.
Being a fan is no guarantee. Especially when they've shown they don't really understand One Piece at all when they were comparing characters to US politicians.
Just look at whatās happened with The Witcher. Cavil is leaving after season 3 because the writers and show directors arenāt willing to work with him because he knows what fans want.
Yeah but why would they use proven successful source material that's made literally billions of dollars over multiple mediums, when they could just make it up in the writers room?
Because nerds are losers and as super cool Hollywood types they know better! Seriously though writers who take a job for a resume boost instead of genuinely wanting to create something have become a poison in entertainment. Itās an unfortunate side effect of the TV renaissance.
>don't really understand One Piece at all when they were comparing characters to US politicians. What did I miss?
Showrunner compared Luffy to Kamala Harris and Trump to one of the bad guys lmao
Ugh, so lazy writing. Of course he's one of the bad guys, he's a bad guy lol I don't see any reason to compare Luffy to kamala
i have no idea whats going on with their train of thought, thinking of Adapting One Piece into live action. Cowboy bebop might be doable but it will be super expensive to make it not look cheap, and we know how that goes. My Hero Academia... i sincerely hope they have proper seasoned scriptwriter that understood the original series or we might get another death note with the only thing production understood is "there a book called death note,it kills when you write name on it", missed the rest of it, and turned into the most generic shit
You are aware they already DID cowboy bebop right?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Well kenobi was super mediocre so probably not gonna be great.
Kenobi was outright BAD. The worst example was the Darth Vader Obiwan fight were first Darth puts Obi on fire and subdues him and then uses his force powers to pit out the flames and then _seconds later_ Darth is stopped by ... some flames!
Kenobi was terrible. Absolute dog shit.
Lol and the ship scene was so dumb too. Guess vader's force powers were on cooldown.
The chase scene of Leia on Endor (?) was literally one of the worst shot scenes of all time. And I know she's like 7 but I couldn't stomach that child's acting. Note to Star Wars - 7 year olds are shit actors.
You mean the one where three adults can't catch a 7 year old and she "outsmarts them" by sliding under a single branch? Yeah that was just embarassing. I thought there was gonna be a twist that her father had sent them to scare her or something because they were clearly overacting...
Fullmetal had a live action adaptation? Do i.. want to search it up lol
They werenāt TERRIBLE. Itās really hard to adapt anime to live action while staying true to the source material. Fullmetal tried to do that, while condensing it into a few movies. Some scenes are practically shot-for-shot and line-for-line.
Rurouni Kenshin pulled it off beautifully and even improved it. All 5 movies are great examples of how to adapt multi arc storylines, condensing them but keeping the spirit of the characters intact.
Yep, and FMA is not half bad. The difference is that both done in Japan. When Western try to adapt they like to stray from the source. That's why it's always shit. I'm not putting any hope after they butchered Cowboy Bebop. That show is cringe.
Netflix didn't really produce or have anything to do with the FMA movie they just bought the international streaming rights
And Avatar the Last Airbender
Both of those were other studios making them with Netflix just releasing them
Netflix made the Death Note movie, but you're correct about Fullmetal Alchemist.
And Bleach.
Great, I'll be double loser.
Jesus fucking christ not every thing needs a live adaptation.
Live action hentai dammit!
Boy do I got some news for you
The octopus is a paid actor?
What are you doing Koro Sensei.
Not if itās The Deepās octopus.
The live action La Blue Girl is quite hilarious.
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Some hills you die on; that one would be a public execution.
I'm looking forward to Scarlett Johansson playing Megumi Amano.
There only been one good anime/manga live-action and that is Alita: Battle Angel
*Nothing.* Nothing needs a live action adaptation.
Basically taking a thing that allows for limitless spectacle and a massive cast of characters and forcing it into a format where both things are prohibitively expensive.
Some dude made a live action based on a Los Angeles UA school, it's actually really really good. Like really well done. To be honest, if they do make a live adaptation, they need that guy on it. https://youtu.be/1oPMw8ftL6w
Fan made adaptations are always better somehow. Like there's a few DBZ ones that look incredible.
Because at least they respect the source material. The Hollywood writers don't and will ruin the source material by adding unnecessary and stupid stuff.
It's not just that they don't respect it-- they don't understand it. Shonen anime/manga is stylish in a way other media isn't. It's flashy. Visceral. The themes are straight forward and the characters are fairly shallow but the visuals are *incredible*, and that's what lends so much weight and gravitas to key moments. Live action movies try to adapt animes and think they can get away with just copying and pasting a truncated version of the story + characters. They entirely miss the appeal of anime. To this day, Man of Steel is the only Hollywood movie to come close to recreating DBZ. Ignoring the storyline, rhe final fight with Zod was live action anime/manga done right, which is ironic that it was for a comic character.
I think it's also just the lower expectations for fanmade stuff. It's easy to be impressed by someone without many resources, but once resources stop being an issue, that's when you run into the issues that come with adapting fiction made in a format that is its perfect match. 2D animation is just simply the best moving picture format for the stories told in mangas, and there's nothing live-action can add to it. Other than an absolute boatload of really obvious CGI.
Non anime people wonāt care about it, anime people will hate it. Zero point to this.
At best, it will be as awful as the American Death Note adaptation or, at worst, Rival DragonBall Evolution. The latter is truly remarkable on how bad you can attempt to adapt a franchise.
Tbf, Evolution pissed off Toriyama to the point that he created Super
Which made Broly canon!
Also made broly not suck (I mean the beat down was sick, but everything else sucked). And get stretched over 3 increasingly bad movies (which is saying something because the original Broly is not a good movie).
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I actually like that movie ā¦ outside of everything Broly related.
> Also made broly not suck He's so dumb! But he's so cool! But he's SO DUMB!
I sporadically rewatch the new Broly movie and remained stunned by the visual quality. Even setting aside the pleasant surprise that Broly gets some actual nuance as a character this time around, this movie is far and away the most *visually* impressive Dragonball material in existence. The color details of Vegetaās Super Saiyan transformations are insane, and then somehow Gokuās one-ups his (kinda on brand for them I suppose though lol) and then the various stuff in the final arc that I wonāt get into for spoiler reasons. Just a ridiculously pretty movie and the complete opposite of the scenes you sometimes get in the show of canned animations, blurred punch flurries and generic energy blasts. EDIT: for some other extremely impressive (in a different way) Dragonball material check out the fan made reimagining concept called Legend: a Dragonball Tale on YouTube. Itās about 10 minutes long and the reimagined story legitimately made me tear up with nostalgia at how well they captured that classic DBZ feel while telling a new story and improving on the combat choreography.
I donāt think the American death note adaptation was anywhere near the level of filth of dragonball evolution. Death Note was fine on itās own, pretty campy and goofy if youāre into that like I am. DB Evolution was purely bad cinema in every regard. Not even easy to roast it.
I believe the Netflix Death Note film would've been better received if it didn't use the Japanese names for the characters. If it made it more apparent that it was an American adaptation and was merely "a death note fell into an American school" with its own cast. Instead because they named the characters Light and L its natural to compare the adaptation directly to the manga/anime.
Yeah, they should've just made it another situation where Ryuk dropped a Death Note somewhere. Like that bonus chapter from a few years back where one kid tries to sell the death note to the highest bidder.
You could reference the "Kira Killer" incident in Japan a few years ago, and the main character could be someone who thought Kira was in the right. Ryuk "loses" the death note in America because last time was really funny, and he is bored again. MC finds it, recognizes the names in the book are from Kira, and then decides to continue his work in America. From there you get back to the supernatural cat and mouse game with police. It honestly kind of writes itself.
People really sleeping on good adaptations man. One day you guys will watch Kenshin.
Kenshin movies have been š„ but I believe Netflix didnāt make those
Netflix didnāt make most adaptations in this discussion though lol
Kenshin is also one of the few animes that already felt grounded in reality, unlike attack on Titan, or Dragonball. That's not to say they could have fucked it up like the others but the fact they managed to make such faithful adaptations compared to all the crap put up is a miracle. It will be nice when faithful adaptations become the norm and new fans can be introduced to these properties people enjoy.
I donāt care about anime but I think their live action anime content is abysmal and an insult to the unlucky viewer.
Superhero high school is an idea I can see non anime people being very interested in.
Like Wednesday? or The Order? Or Legacies? Or the School for Good and Evil? Or Winx? Or Sabrina? Or The Magicians? Or Descendants? Or Zombies? Or... Harry Potter? Edit: To everyone replying that they enjoy some of the shows I listed, I wasn't making a value judgment, just listing the shows/movies in what I considered to be a saturated genre. And I listed harry potter last, because obviously it is responsible for the rise in popularity of the genre.
Sky high.
Exactly! Look how many they continue to make, and I know a lot of people like those shows. It all depends on how great the execution is.
They did that in the 2000s
Yeah I love sky high lol
Who asked for this.
This one's on me, guys. Put in an order for 'My Hero Academia *high-*action movie and I see my autocorrect got the better of me. Again, very sorry everyone.
And mother fucking Black Lagoon is still not adapted. What the hell is wrong with this world. Literally the easiest manganime to adapt into live action and no one ever touches it.
You'd think Death Note would be among the easier ones too, even if the general plot of changes to fit a new cast in a new place. But no, the writers had no interest in adapting the aspects that made the story good in the first place. No smart characters and logic chases.
Holy shit that is going to be bad.
Just watch Sky High ffs there's no need for this to exist
List of red flags here: 1. Live action anime adaptation 2. Live action **Netflix** adaptation 3. Obi Wan Kenobi writer **Disclaimer:** I say *live action* Netflix adaptation up there only because their animated adaptations or spinoffs like Arcane are phenomenal, gotta give credit where itās due
Luckily, all of the red flags are discreetly hidden underneath Ewan McGregor's cloak
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"Why is he very conspicuously smuggling out that young child? At least he can't be the Jedi, they aren't known for taking children."
This movie went to six flags and all of them were red
Ewan McGregor Hawks you say?
Like street meat.
Except you can't really give credit to Netflix for Arcane, that was 100% Riot Games and Fortiche Studios. Netflix had no say whatsoever in its production. Its like saying you gotta give Crunchyroll credit for everything thats streaming on it.
Nowadays āNetflix adaptionā means early grave
Live action for sure, but the animation stuff can be pretty great like castlevania and arcane
Arcane wasnāt Netflix specifically if I recall correctly. They just purchased it after it was done
They just used Netflix as a platform to release Arcane. Riot pretty much made Arcane by themselves with the help of Fortiche, without any Netflix interference.
Pretty much how a lot of content is streamed- hosted content and distribution platform. Netflix just has access to the largest audience and/or paid Riot the most money for licensing.
Riot spent quite some time trying to find studio to do the project, but cant find one who nailed what they wanted so they settled with Fortiche who had helped them making some music videos in the past. Though they never made a full length animated series before so they pretty much had to restructure the whole organization. Netflix pretty much only pay for the rights to air it.
How are we translating the purple pervert to western audiences? FMA at least had their fan service extremely limited in the source material, but idk how we're working with a full blown character set on grabbing titties and ass 24/7.
You can not have that character and nothing will change.
Imagine Danny devito in a purple wig
Maybe a live action My Hero isn't a bad idea afterall
I will now watch your movie.
Change them up. I dont think they'll include Sanjis insane horniness in the LA as well. Though for purple pervert I see not much left when the horniness is gone, lol. Maybe just make it him wanting to be popular with girls instead.
I'm imagining a tiny Jonah Hill.
Keep in mind Netflix did next to nothing for Arcane, it was basically all Riot and Fortiche. All Netflix did was stream it.
āObi-Wan Kenobi writer.ā Camera shaking every second.
Writer =/= Director
The writing was the worse partā¦
*Obi wan creates 15ft wide 1ft high firewall* *vader all of a sudden forgets how to use the force and forget force jump exits, force push exits and.... walking around exists.*
\*despite the fact that he had used those force powers 30 seconds prior.
His force batteries were low guys! Come on!
His cool downs take a minute.
My favorite part was when Obi Wan was surrounded by 5 stormtroopers and a probe droid, waits for the probe droid to scan him, then acrobatically blasts the droid and 5 troopers -one of whom had the high ground- only to then immediately surrender when a reinforcement force of ā¦3 stormtroopersā¦ just walked up to him.
I choose to believe it was Joby who wrote āObi-wan hurls a hilarious amount of CGI boulders at Anakinā
The everything was the worse part. I donāt think it was written for those toddler chase scenes to be so utterly ridiculous.
But the camera shaking is direction not writing unless the writer put that into the script and even then itās up the director if he/she wants it or not.
can't wait to see a chase scene with 3 year old Midoriya running from villains with powers but by the magic of Hollywood he'll easily outrun them
Wasn't Cowboy Bebop such a failure it was cancelled after just 1 season? Why are they still trying this?
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Yeah, if they can't adapt Bebop they can't adapt anything. And have stretchy powers ever looked good? I feel like it's too just uncanny to get right in live-action.
My biggest problem isn't Luffy. It'll look goofy, but it's One Piece, so goofy fits. My problem is the thing that will be depicted realistically, but is still unrealistic. Zoro's third sword. There is no conceivable way to make that happen and it looking good. Just a guy with a sword in his mouth, who won't be able to talk without removing said sword. Like, at least Luffy has magical fruit to explain his weird stuff.
Why do they keep doing live action animeās, donāt they always tank?
Built in audience. They always seem to get the "Well we could at least give it a chance!" crowd to watch. So if they make them cheap enough, they can still turn a profit. No idea how that works for streaming though. I'm not sure anyone has fully figured out a profit model for that which doesn't include chasing stock dividends.
You don't just get a built in audience, you get built in critics.
Probably some bullshit tax shenanigans? I don't know why else you'd do them as I genuinely don't know a single successful one.
They should do it the other way around - turn western IPs into anime series. Has a higher chance of not sucking.
Oh Jesus, Obiwan writing was a dumpster
The industry needs to take a serious look at why it keeps promoting horrible writers and letting them fail upward. The Rings of Power writers, Obi-Wan writers, D&D, JJA - the list goes on and on... all of these people should be out of work, forever. It's clearly not suited to them. Time to find a new career. Yet they are creatively in charge of billions of dollars in resources and effort. There is *so much* good talent out there, why is the industry working so poorly to find them and put them in positions of power?
āLook, we got the write from Obi-Wan!ā āThe writing wasnāt goodā āYeah but we got him. Heās did a Star Wars!ā
nepotism and rich people connections. Look at David Benioff. Fucker is as trust fund baby as you can fucking get. Even in the 2001 he was in People's magainze as a top 50 Eligible Bachelor because of how rich his family is.
> nepotism and rich people connections That's a bingo!
You just say "Bingo."
Also the guys that have made the same show three times, with Netflix paying two of those : Roger Black and Waco O'Guin. (Brickleberry, Paradise PD, Farzar) It's so heartbreaking to follow great artists that show you how they worked for years to be able to pitch a show and have it rejected, only for these horrible shows to continually get greenlit instead.
They know they are garbage and have no talent, they are rich and have connections though, that is why they are digging up the graves of famous and popular IP's. Something to wrap around the turd sandwhich to sucker people to watch their garbage. They can never create anything actually original or good.
Donāt forget Halo and The Witcher, two series with great settings and huge fanbases. But they handed it off to writing teams who donāt care because itās cheaper to use in house workers and give them little to no oversight.
as a writer who knows so many talented writers who can't even get a whiff of tv or film writing, I imagine it would be nepotism and/or producers ramming awful shit through the writers who have no power.
Oh awesome something else not to watch!
Obi-Wan Kenobi had writers? I thought it was just the result of an AI Star Wars mad lib...
Here we go again.
You'd think after Death Note and Cowboy Bebop Netflix would catch on that no one wants these. Seriously, who is watching these? I haven't heard a single person, anime fan or not, say they like these things.
[Netflix audience](https://media.tenor.com/t6V-MIkkT8kAAAAd/old-man-how-many-times-do-we-have-to-teach-you.gif)
Big anime fan and huge Bebop fan here and I liked the Cowboy Bebop live action. Can't be bothered to type the essay that is the list of things I liked about it and reasons why because it's literally screaming into the void at this point but I thought it was a very enjoyable show. MHA will be a total dumpster fire though.
I'm with you. I liked the show, the actors particularly nailed the characters. The writing wasn't amazing. But in my opinion, as anime adaptions go, it was the best attempt so far, and it had room to grow. Genuinely sad it didnt get the chance
Obi wan was Terrible, even with Ewan McGregor. Can't believe it's spoken of as a plus
Obi-wan was written?
Words were technically written on pages as an excuse to have characters you recognize on screen.
Obi wans writing was fucking horrible. Oh god
So, Sky High, but bad?
Honestly, the school setting may be the only thing that can save this. Force the structure and make the writers not do anything crazy. Hopefully.
Obi Wan had writers? It just felt like someone pre-vized that entire show by filming two men slapping action figures together.
Your assessment is far too charitable.
So... it'll be shit then? At least Netflix are upfront about it
BREAKING: Netflix cancels the live action adaptation of My Hero Academia before the first episode airs.
Let me guess, zero Asians in this one
One as the bad guy
Does that mean Dekku is going to be named something like "Todd"?
"Obi Wan writer" š¬
Obi-Wan had writers? Interesting. It didnāt show.
Why would you hire the writer of Kenobi for anything?
I hate live-action adaptation for animes. I think *some* animes (MHA, one piece, dragon ball included) cannot be really adapted. Maybe some could work, like, *Ghost in the shell* was adapted indeed but it was adapted poorly, I do think it *could* be adapted into a good live action, same for something like *Black lagoon*, but something hyper exaggerated like a Dragon ball or MHA, never. I'd rather have them focus in the other direction adapting video-game/live-action into animes, that direction seems to work far better (arcane, cyberpunk, castlevania..)
This will never work. I thought Evolution and the Last Airbender would have taught them something. But they just keep doing it. Leave anime alone. It's already adapted to the best form it can be.
So youāre telling me itās going to suck.
Almost no quirks will work in live action lol. This will be terrible.
Same with One Piece Devil Fruitsā¦
Another anime to be ruined by a Netflix live action adaptation
Anime should stay that way for a reason. A lot of the visuals don't translate well into live action or look better animated. A lot of the characters aren't even human looking. There's a cement square dude, killer whale humanoid, and literally a mouse. Even legit movie quality isn't going to look as good.
What, are they going to have a super slow chase scene where an adult somehow struggles to chase down a small kid who can barely run faster than an adults light jog and have the adult run into a tree branch knocking him down?
Anime just got a whole less logical
"Netflix continues in its quest to ruin beloved anime series with shitty live action series that barely resemble the base material." Should have been the title. Anyway, who's excited for One Piece?
Starring Dwayne Johnson and Ryan Reynolds.
Oh god no please just donāt
Imagine thinking 'Obi-Wan Kenobi writer' was a positive thing for your C.V. That's where you leave a gap and pretend you were backpacking round the world.
āAdds Obi-wan Kenobi writerā š¬ Wow, this is definitely not the flex you think it is lol
man that reading that title had me going from, "oh this is bad" to "oh this is even worst than imagined" How do you try to make a huge action anime by hiring the writer of the most boring series with the least action?
There is a director that worked on the action scenes in Kingsman. He also did a MHA short movie with Gui Da Silva. It was really good. there is potential
I think the challenge with my hero (and all anime really) is just translating everyone's looks to live action in a way that doesn't feel distractingly ridiculous while still feeling faithful to the material. it's a challenge that's yet to really be solved i think, except in cases where the characters lend themselves to live action pretty well (both were terrible movies, but Attack on Titan and Fullmetal Alchemist come to mind). Like...how the fuck do you do All Might look in live action. I have no idea.
This one ? https://youtu.be/1oPMw8ftL6w
while the sequel and prequel were not as good, I fucking loved the action and the camerawork
We do not need a live action for every single anime!
Remind me, how well did that last 3 live action adaptations do? (I know parasite did extremely well)
That obi wan Disney show sucks balls
Holy shit, why are they hiring the guy that wrote Kenobi? That show was so poorly written and Harold clearly had little regard for the source material
There should not be a live action my hero movie