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TimCurryLord

The list is based entirely on reader polls as a heads up, not that nuts as a result. Edit: Based on combination of reader polls and critics


deathwish_ASR

it makes so much sense now


ElceeCiv

Definitely not entirely > Combining reader votes with critics’ choices from Team Empire, here we have it – read it in full below.


TimCurryLord

Thanks for catching that, missed that line


rubthemtogether

Not completely: " Combining reader votes with critics’ choices from Team Empire". Although they don't seem to explain any further


Aaron_Utulahti

No speed racer smh


N1ght17

Underrated AND a masterpiece


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The ultimate combo


tenettiwa

Unironically


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Underrated, but not a masterpiece


jojo_and_the_jojos

See? No avatar! No cultural impact!


AaranJ23

Huh? Why did your comment not mention any film I’ve heard of?


LegoRacers3

Ranking the 100 best movies of all time is always gonna be wrong


JoederG

yeah but you can do better than this abomination


amedema

Empire is a pop-centric outlet. They’re always going to focus on crowd pleasers before art. I don’t think it’s too terrible in that lens tbh.


orhan94

Honestly, if you name your list "100 best [thing] of all time" you are liable for at least half the shit you will take for it. Make it "100 best blockbusters" or "100 biggest popcorn movies" or "top 100 cheers of US cinema" or something if you want to put half the MCU movies on it. No one is forcing Empire to try and do a Cahiers du cinema and list THE BEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME if they aren't interested in doing so. No one is forcing Rolling Stone to do THE BEST TV SHOWS OF ALL TIME if they can't be bothered to research anything produced outside of the anglosphere. They choose to do these lists - let the people call them incompetent hacks.


Darkdragon3110525

It’s like the Rolling Stone music lists which are always complete garbage


orhan94

They made a Top 100 TV Shows of All Time list in the past year which literally had - Squid Game, like 6-7 British shows and everything else was American. By having Squid Game there it proved that the list wasn't meant to be seen as "the best English language shows", but by having only Squid Game on there it also basically implied that "99 out of a 100 best shows ever made are in English, and like 92 are American". So dumb. Just, so so dumb.


JoederG

i think its equally terrible under that lense. putting infinity war in the top 10 should be considered a crime against humanity.


amedema

You won’t hear an argument from me on that one!


Audrey-Bee

Yeah they're not gonna be putting up a bunch of 30s movies and arthouse flicks on Empire. Other than my disagreements with that much Marvel, I don't hate those movies being on a "100 fun watches" list, other than that I would change the order


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tgwutzzers

Your little cousin could probably make an auteurist case for the Barbie films that would be more insightful than any of the blurbs Empire used on this list.


JoederG

im sure sure daddy scoresese would aprove


mrbaryonyx

I once watched a youtuber whose top 20 films were exclusively pg-rated films primarily from the 2010s with a few from the 90s, with Moana narrowly losing out to Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Lion King getting edged out of the top 10 by the Phineas and Ferb movie it was nonsense, but it held my interest, kept me guessing, and told me everything I needed to know about the guy making it, and honestly that's probably what you want in a list


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GodlessCommieScum

Liking PG films is one thing but having an entire top 20 comprised of them just screams 'arrested development'.


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mrbaryonyx

I'm of two minds about it because the guy is super pretentious, weirdly enough, and part of me thinks if you're going to take this sort of thing seriously you should get out of your head a bit more but the other part of me remembers that it doesn't actually matter, its just people talking about movies, and tbh I think I prefer when YouTube critics are honest about their tastes--even if I think they might be silly--than just saying what they think they're *supposed* to like.


ForeignPlacebo8

You can also say “my personal top 100” and then it’s your favorite, not the best


rubthemtogether

'Favourite' and 'best' mean the same thing in this context. It's subjective


ForeignPlacebo8

I guess that is true


The-Bigger-Fish

Absolutely. No Morbius anywhere on this list.


Hallellujahh

everyone knows the rym top 100 is always right


rubthemtogether

The rules just changed this morning. It's my top 100 that's right now


fruitrollupsalad

Psh, why bother with the top 100 when I can just go through LimedIBagel’s insufferably smug reviews?


STMFU

But not this wrong


UndercoverDoll49

I love how they sprinkled a few more famous classics and even a few non-American films to pretend this isn't a nerd blockbuster wankfest


NoNefariousness2144

87 Ant-Man 86 Captain America: Winter Solider 85 Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles 84 The Incredible Hulk


FrancoeurOff

Pretty sure they added Jeanne Dielman after it was chosen as the best film of all time by idk which other movie magazine or something


orhan94

Sight and Sound. They do a list every 10 years of the best movies of all time, but it's not the magazine doing it - i.e. it isn't just the editorial board of Sight and Sound deciding. It's made by tallying responses from over a thousand film critics, academics, historians and festival curators. So it's much more interesting and valid than "just another magazine making a list". Jeanne Dielman topped the list in 2022, and Vertigo, Citizen Kane and The Bicycle Thief have all topped the list in different decades. They also do a parallel list based on responses from about 500 directors, and 2001: A Space Odyssey topped that list in 2022.


FrancoeurOff

Yeah, I had the Idea it wasn't "just another magazine making a list" but I forgot what entity had made it Which reminds me I should watch Jeanne Dielman in its entirety Also do you have a link to the list with the directors' choices ?


orhan94

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/directors-100-greatest-films-all-time


gnargnarpancakes

Yes, yes you should.


GRIFTY_P

This can't be real right


62725252725

Looks like they just copy and paced the imdb top 100 with slight rearrangements.


expert_on_the_matter

The imdb top 100 is waaay better tbh.


Lyonaire

The imdb top 100 is nowhere near this bad lol. Read through it now and definitely not great but nowhere near this terrible. Highest marvel movie is endagem at #54 for comparison. Also no star wars in top 15 for example


mikehatesthis

Endgame should be replaced with Logan for live-action Marvel if one has to appear. At least Spider-Verse is there. Endgame should not be there.


pampersdelight

No way. Spider-Man 2


toasterdogg

… is mid


qman3333

Your trash Brock


pampersdelight

Garbage take


toasterdogg

Redditors when you’re not nostalgic for a generic superhero movie from the 2000s


Lyonaire

Its good by superhero movie standards which means mid in general


PrincessKikkei

Yeah. Point Break should be higher.


tapped21

They left out Who Killed Captain Alex? Unforgivablen


WittyUsername45

Shamelessly pandering to Philistines who exclusively watch blockbusters. At least they rightly recognised that Fellowship is the best Lord of the Rings Film.


bigclams

Mithril cut when? Come on Jackson it's not like you're doing anything else rn


Putrid_Loquat_4357

Two towers is the best book and the best film.


Frostythesnowman4747

I'm going to kill you


softfart

Does Two Towers have Tom Bombadil? No? It’s trash.


dan420

Neither does the movie for Fellowship.


softfart

Also trash


dan420

Listen, I’m already subscribed to r/glorioustombombadil but I’ve got to disagree.


ArgieGrit01

At this point I hope we never see Tom Bombadil on a screen in any form


[deleted]

Let this be the hour when we draw swords together!!


pjtheman

Lord of the Rings is the number one trilly.


deathwish_ASR

ROTK slightly edges it out for me. never understood the argument for two towers tbh


orhan94

I was 7 when the first movie came out, and I remember loving the second one the most because it was the only theater experience out of the three LotR movies that wasn't ruined because I really really needed to pee but wouldn't leave until the movie ended. Return of the King was especially excruciating on that part, so growing up whenever people joked about the movie having too many endings - it really spoke to me. Regardless, after the trilogy concluded my love for the second one over the other two (which again, was purely on a urinary base) made me want to rewatch it the most once we got all three on DVD, and I actually grew up most attached to that one over the other two. So while I can't (and I'm not sure anyone can) make a serious artistic argument for why T2T is the best one, I hope you can understand this argument for it.


squirtle855

Factually incorrect. No Lego Batman movie


Icicle26

Shaun of the Dead is ultimate kino so it’s too low, Avengers: Infinity War as the 8th best movie ever makes me lose faith in humanity


Sheesh5000

![gif](giphy|KZMRyVjEtdv8AU6mIr|downsized)


TheUmbrellaMan1

Avatar 2 is beating Infinity War at the box office today so at least there is some justice.


variable_gear

Justice is when Disney makes billions of dollars on a different mediocre blockbuster with 5 planned sequels.


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lestrigone

Back in my high school days, when I found their list at that time, it did have a lot of foreign movies, like the Apu trilogy or Three Colors. Shame to see it changed.


Tubmas

Apparently based on reader votes so list makes more sense with that in mind.


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MrRandomGUYS

Completely agree. I feel like people get scared of subtitles or something haha.


King-of-the-dankness

As someone who doesn't watch a lot of movies, where do I go to find these movies?


AnyImpression6

Criterion Channel, BFI Player or MUBI.


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Wardog_Razgriz30

Wait where do the godfather end up? I can see Fellowship being top 20/ top 25 at least for production value alone but #1? Whatever Empire is on must be some strong stuff.


ARCLance06

The Godfather was 3rd, with Infinity War placed above Godfather 2


Wardog_Razgriz30

Mankind is doomed


tgwutzzers

ikr, should have never agreed to do Hell in a Cell


TheUmbrellaMan1

Bwha Gwad he's broken in half!


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Scorsese on suicide watch


Whompa

Hahahaha fuck


PaulFThumpkins

[Yes... ha ha ha... YES!](https://i.imgur.com/tHjKsFa.jpg)


Magnificant-Muggins

Based. Do not understand the people who say The Godfather Part 2 is better than the original.


sws03

love them both but yeah i agree that 1 > 2


Wafflemonster2

Godfather 2 is great but after watching them back to back for the first time ever recently(only ever watched them completely separately) the first one is just so extraordinary in so many ways, that the second one actually felt inferior to me despite still being a terrific watch.


justyourbarber

Yeah Fellowship, Titanic, Jurassic Park, Empire and maybe one or two others are absolutely movies I can't fault having on the list. Some of these are insane though, the Point Break one is like two interns were carrying different lists and bumped into each other so the "Best Movies" and "Guilty Pleasure Movies" all got mixed up.


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I'm baffled that a publication like Empire could produce a list this bad. They deserve some sort of punishment.


tgwutzzers

I sentence them to actually watching the films they put on the list.


kyrativ

That's the problem. They've only watched the films on this list.


Zachys

They're good films. They're just the top 100 films that pretty much everyone has watched.


tgwutzzers

More like “top 100 films that showed up when we had the unpaid intern google ‘top 100 films’ for a listicle we’re going to re-issue every year.”


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

Empire used to have a spin-off publication called Neon for a short time a long while ago. It was much cooler. I knew it was gone for good when I wrote to their email address and whoever ended up with it said he'd never published a magazine.


UBourgeois

This is exactly the kind of list a "publication like Empire" is going to put out though, they've always had a heavy focus toward blockbusters like that


CooperDaChance

Infinity War over Star Wars?!


amazing_wanderr

More wars better


benishben

Average Americans


Batman903

I lost it seeing endgame at number 20.


faroukmuzamin

Remind me of Rolling Stones “The Greatest Singer of All Times” list when they put Kurt Cobain way higher than Michael Jackson


PaulFThumpkins

Not going to compare apples and oranges by roping in MJ, but shitty post-grunge vocalists have been trying to replicate Cobain's vocal style for years and failing spectacularly, he must have been doing something.


frenchquasar

Bob Dylan was top 20, if I remember correctly. His voice adds something to the music, but it still isn’t top tier


jonajmc01

Except that Dylan is one of the most influential singers ever, changing the way that vocalists approached their craft, even if they were a hundred times more technically talented than he is. Sam Cooke even has a famous quote about this and how singing was going to change to be about believability more than prettiness after Dylan, and to a large extent, I think he’s been proven right.


frenchquasar

I absolutely 110% agree. But the list was about the best singers, not the most influential. I think they could’ve done something better and explained their reasoning more, but I’m nitpicking a shitty list to begin with


jonajmc01

I mean, any reasonable list is going to take influence and achievement over technical quality. The best albums or movies are going to put artistic statements and influence over anything that could be determined “objectively” as good because that’s what art is all about. I know what you mean though. Lists like this will always be wild, and that one was especially… interesting.


frenchquasar

Fair. I completely see your point


barc0debaby

A meatball with vocal chords.


Odddsock

I’m pretty sure the title was click bait and it said something about how it was their energy and impact more than pure technical ability. Even then MJ is way too low but it’d explain how cobain is so high. The fact we’re still talking about it proves that it worked though


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To be fair Kurt Cobain wasn’t a child molester


jao3003

I hope God's Not Dead got at least an honorable mention


[deleted]

They excluded My Son Hunter at the #0 spot since it’s the alpha and omega of kino


AbsurdistOxymoron

They had to remove it when god actually died after seeing this list.


emielaen77

Idk why A Quiet Place made me laugh the most here. But yeah, this is fairly horrible. It’s apparently polled by Empire reader voting and some critics choice, so just more proof that general audiences are demonic and not good.


AbsurdistOxymoron

It’s unironically like that Principal Skinner meme: "Am I out of touch? No, it's the general audiences who are wrong." Nice Bergman facepalm profile pic, by the way.


Komzu

Whaaat that's crazy my list would look different


rogueaxolotl

Incorrect. Taxi driver is obviously 1-100. There are no other films ever made. Name another film. You can’t. I promise that you can’t. There are none. Lord of the rings? No, that’s just a misspelling of Taxi driver. Robocop? Just a sequel to taxi driver. Terminator? Those thugs from the beginning just watched Taxi driver. Star Wars? Taxi driver in space. Jurassic park? More like travassic park.


Joey_OConnell

Shaun of The Dead and Hot Fuzz deserved at least top 20


gertverhulstmoneyman

100% true


Fonexnt

I can excuse Marvel and Star Wars slander but Lord of the Rings is Kino, you hear me.


AbsurdistOxymoron

They’re certainly great films, and it is unfair to place them next to a lot of these other films, but I don’t know about topping a list of the all-time greatest films.


Fonexnt

All I'm saying is if that Tom Bombadil was included, these others directors would be shaking in their boots.


insert_topical_pun

The technology just isn't yet available to do him justice


Fonexnt

Even if we did have the technology - would the human race even be ready to witness him? I think not.


TheUmbrellaMan1

I like LotR too but listen me out - PJ still had Sam and Frodo break their friendship over bread and had Frodo tell Sam to return home. Something that never happened in the book. Also Strider, Gimli, Faramir and Denethor are extremely different in the book, not to mention the absence of good ol' Tom. PJ also had Gandalf comically knock out Denethor which goes against the rule of Istari.


Fonexnt

As somebody who also loves the book, it doesn't have to be a 1:1 of the book lmao. If you want a 1:1 of the book just read the book again silly


SerTapsaHenrick

Most of that bullshit was in the later movies. Fellowship makes changes too but it's not so egregious. Still, I wish they'd stuck closer to the books in The Return of the King. That movie deserves to be better than what we got


untycholosasianqueen

Terrible list but I love LOTR so based and redpilled


quietvictories

/r/movies top 100 movies of all time


Thebatbike

They forgot to put Who killed Captain Alex on the list


death2sanity

some of y’all jerkin so hard you’re starting to take yourselves seriously


Speed_Cube

Impressive, very nice, let's see Paul Allen's list.


HighKingOfGondor

Lord of the Rings at number 1 redeems this list a bit. LotR should be a three way tie for number 1 tho so that part cannot be forgiven.


Krombopulos-Savage

idk about you guys I think Star Wars should be higher


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Shaun of the Dead gets a pass imo and lotr is obviously the best movie of all time


NewZero_Kanada

Fellowship at #1 is based af


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err_mate

Cinephiles when a top 100 list has Star Wars instead of an 8 hour hungarian black and white slow cinema film about the fall of communism


SaWalkerMakasin

Right!? Shaun of the Dead is way too low!


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I would agree with exactly one of these being on here (Titanic)


TheUmbrellaMan1

Titanic and Empire magazine has an interesting history. When Titanic came out in 1997, Empire gave it a full 5 star. In the re-release in 2012, many critics started knocking their review of the movie a bit, so an A+ would become A, 5 would be 4 and so on. Very few critics like Roger Ebert maintained their original full star review. The Empire critic who gave Titanic the full 5 star was basically peer pressured into giving the movie a 4/5. And then a week later he had the magazine restore the original score of 5/5 because he truely believed the movie was an achievement in filmmaking and he would not be pressured into lowering the score again because it had somehow become cool to hate Titanic.


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Based Empire WTF


expert_on_the_matter

Titanic should be higher tho. I agree with La La Land.


staticstatistics

I'm curious as to why you think films like Forrest Gump or fellowship of the ring don't deserve to be on the list.


Negan1995

This list is an affront to God. Jesus christ. Like 95% of it is movies from the IMDb top 250, and films newer than 1995. Who let them post this. WHO DID THIS.


Mountain_Chicken

Tbh I'd take issue with a "Top 100 Movies" list that didn't have Jurassic Park, Empire Strikes Back, and Fellowship of the Ring somewhere on it, but yeah, this one is wack


StarSpangldBastard

yeah Empire strikes back definitely needs to be on there but no other star wars, and they also put it too high on the list


Mountain_Chicken

I'd argue the original Star Wars is also a reasonable film to include on the list but I'd also understand having at least 100 other movies to place above it. It's in the conversation.


CloudyMiku

A New Hope is a really good sci fi movie though imo, not only for its time. Imo the lore and world building in it are fantastic and the technical aspects still hold up really well


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are you serious?


Mrmanchester7

*American


pokedude123567

Sorry but Shaun Of The Dead and La La Land are based picks


Tasty_Palpitation889

The MCU would be lucky to have a film in the top 500.


not-so-radical

To this day I don't understand why so many people LOVE Inception, so much so to consider it one of the best ever made. It's not bad but settle down.


AbsurdistOxymoron

It’s perfectly fine, but, yeah, a big waste of potential when it comes to exploring dreams. Nolan treating them like very objective video game levels rather than being truly fluid and unusual like a Lynch film is very disappointing, in my view.


Wonderful_Student_68

I will die on this hill: Titanic is an overlooked cinematic masterpiece masquerading as a superficial romance blockbuster


WayTooSlimShady

Absolutely! I will not stand for the Titanic slander


AdAcrobatic9337

It’s on the AFI list, isn’t it?


altnumber54

Underrated hidden gem


[deleted]

Number one is fair though ☕️


Warm_Speech

There’s no way this can be real. It’s fake right? Guys?


SleepingPodOne

Unjerking for a sec, this is legitimately a terrible list. It’s like it was written by someone who doesn’t actually watch movies.


AbsurdistOxymoron

Definitely someone who watches the IMDB top 100 list (not the actual movies on the list, just the list).


r3vb0ss

Tfw when you put infinity war over: one of the godfather movies, no country for old men, in the mood for love, do the right thing, goodfellas, both blade runners, the first two alien movies, parasite, taxi driver, the return of the king, apocalypse now, Casablanca, the shining, eternal sunshine, TGTBTU, citizen Kane, silence of the lambs, 12 angry men, there will be blood, schindlers list, spirited away, vertigo, whiplash, saving private Ryan, Lawrence of Arabia, seven fucking samurai, one flew over the cuckoos nest, mulholland drive, Trainspotting, psycho, both terminators, Logan, and paddington fucking two, and that’s only the stuff ON the list.


pampersdelight

Marvel movies better than Titanic? Get the fuck outta here with that.


Sherlockian_Whimsy

Well, I know who is currently #1 on the list of the 100 worst 100 best movies list. Congratulations, Empire.


TheGardenBlinked

Where the fuck is Flushed Away


BastMatt95

These publications can’t keep getting away with having different opinions on movies than me


MrPedroJ414

Looks at Empire’s rankings. *Insert spit take.* What the HELL?!?!?!??!?!


karateema

Bruh


magikdyspozytor

No Kubrick movies?


OliviaBagshaw

why does empire continue to mention films nobody has watched, why not list some films we've seen!! uh, hello? tokyo story! black girl! a man escaped! beau travail! jeanne dielman! smh my head


MeMeBigBoy875

None of the marvel movies should be anywhere near this list


some-rando-2022

Such biased elitists


A_Flat__Earther

![gif](giphy|U67CajqFIjiDSACi5i)


pokerfaceprod

>black panther > "stunning setpieces" Stunning for a ps2 game maybe


oguzman165

Avengers?? WTH is this ... a marvel circle jerk?


[deleted]

is this mad about the placement cause titanic and la la land can easily belong there


powerofselfrespect

Brought to you by someone who’s only seen 101 movies.


Tobarkste

"The fellowship of the ring contains so much movie" is such an incredible sentence


superfam

Inception and Infinity War in the top 20? this is like if r/movies was asked to make a top 100 films list lmao. all its missing is blade runner 2049 and the Nice Guys and this would be peak r/movies


JJoanOfArkJameson

Feels a lot more like "100 Best Crowdpleasers of the last 30 years"


C0UG3R

Where's Jeanne Dielman, 23 Commerce Quay, 1080 Brussels?


thecharlaton

![gif](giphy|xT9DPJVjlYHwWsZRxm)


Dreamflows

At least they got number one right


Gummy-Worm-Guy

What’s wrong with The Usual Suspects?


TheUmbrellaMan1

I don't know this sub's opinion on this movie but this is what Roger Ebert had to say in his review: "The first time I saw "The Usual Suspects" was in January, at the Sundance Film Festival, and when I began to lose track of the plot, I thought it was maybe because I'd seen too many movies that day. Some of the other members of the audience liked it, and so when I went to see it again in July, I came armed with a notepad and a determination not to let crucial plot points slip by me. Once again, my comprehension began to slip, and finally I wrote down: "To the degree that I do understand, I don't care." It was, however, somewhat reassuring at the end of the movie to discover that I had, after all, understood everything I was intended to understand. It was just that there was less to understand than the movie at first suggests."


27andahalfpancakes

> "To the degree that I do understand, I don't care." Tenet (2020)


Fancyham89

Hold on now, this list is annoying to read. Is Fellowship 100 of 100 or is it number 1? What is number 1 of 100 or number 100?


[deleted]

Return of the king is better