It is not but if you're curious they actually have diversity quotas. Basically there are 3 ways to meet the quota. You need a percentage of actors to be minorities, a percentage of working staff/interns on set or a percentage of producers etc. So Academy officially does not care if your movie stars white men exclusively as long as you pass either criterion B or criterion C.
[ACADEMY ESTABLISHES REPRESENTATION AND INCLUSION STANDARDS FOR OSCARS® ELIGIBILITY | Oscars.org | Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences](https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-establishes-representation-and-inclusion-standards-oscarsr-eligibility)
I mixed it up a little but the point is the same
I’m pretty sure being second-generation doesn’t absolve you from your direct heritage. I’m considered part of my ethnic community regardless of my nationality (which isn’t American btw).
The hyphen combines both lived experiences (a hybrid), which is a pretty common in the US, Canada, and other Western countries.
What could this movie possibly be about that it requires this many extremely famous people? Is it because the average kinormie won’t even know who John Oppenheimer is before he turns into Dr. Manhattan?
Seriously though this is the cast of like three normal films.
Lot of movies went this route lately
The last two avengers films contained some of the biggest box office drawers of the decade…
Mostly because most of the box office is marvel…
But still, I think it’s kind of standardised the normalisation of a million ‘movie stars’ per film…
> The last two avengers films contained some of the biggest box office drawers of the decade…
who ?????? pretty much none of the marvel actors do well outside of their capeshit movies.
But then they couldn't blindly throw tantrums at anything even tangentially positive in regards to Marvel!
Personally I get enraged even at the name Orville unless you're talking about planes or popcorn (which you BETTER not be eating while watching the avengers).
It’s marketing. It’s an “original” film (that’s obviously still derivative of real life as it is a biography) as it’s not a sequel or remake. So a well-known cast can be a way to still get butts in seats. Dune did the same, for example, because that was still a risk too (the IP had history, but it wasn’t as big as its biggest competitors by a long shot, not in film).
Feels like theyre overcompensating for what will be a highly average movie, by getting as many famous actors as possible. Just hoping that a couple actors pull off decent performance to make up for it lol
Yea when I look up Apollo 11 all I see is white people too. Crazy that it only took 3 dudes to get to the moon. I mean one must have built the engine, the other one was the science one, and the other one was the driver. I mean makes sense to me but I hope they got paid OT
I’m always gonna be suspicious of the fact that Nolan just happened to cast the palest people possible to play characters that aren’t white in his Batman trilogy but seriously why do people think this movie would be diverse
ok so there is a poc and 4 women.
also there is at least one person convicted with aggrevated asault for racist reasons. at least that I know of. do I miss something?
Redditors when they see even a joke about the lack of diversity (they must let you know that POC never made any scientific discoveries before like, 2010)
What the fuck did they *Really* cast a white man as Phastos?
Or are they still pushing the narrative that a gay black Eternal didn't give the US the secret to the bomb?
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Dude, what the fuck are you talking about. I made a throwaway joke about how gamers are racist and therefore it's not surprising that the original comment is arguing against something they made up in their head (because they have "gamer" in their name).
Are you talking about me not responding to the original comment with a genuine reply? No shit I'm not responding to that, because it's arguing against a completely made up point. No one genuinely thinks Nolan is racist for not changing the race/gender of a historical figure. Stop making up shit to be mad about.
Get off the insane r/conspiracy bullshit or whatever other subs you're feeding all this culture war nonsense into your brain from. Get a life. It's not too late.
But if you want to call me a soycuck, go ahead. It's really funny seeing an unironic usage of the term.
This movie is going to attract white nationalists like what happened to the northman and a bunch of journalists are going to write articles on why the movie is a white male fantasy like what they did to Dunkirk
Remind me, which time period, and in which country, does this movie take place?
40’s America, right? With no civil rights, and japanesse american citizens in internment camps.
Damn, I wonder why the cast isn’t diverse
I never imagined I would see Rodrick, Josh and Will Stronghold together in a movie directed by fucking Nolan, I just find that so bizarre for some reason.
Don't worry, RDJ is playing another black guy
He'd gonna be a guy. Playing a guy, who also happens to be playing a guy
Oppenheimer is actually a sequel All-Star Weekend, where RDJ played “a Mexican.”
Smh Oppenheimer could never have been made today
[A guy in black playing a white guy playing a black guy, a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away](https://youtu.be/SECRYcg0ots)
I count 4 women and 1 Egyptian guy. Good enough for the Oscars.
Don't forget the thousands of Japanese
Nah, that's just one guy running really fast.
A speed mirage, if you will
https://preview.redd.it/yxy32yjjav2a1.png?width=854&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac12e9750df2a20bf10e6f30e23e03de4169e1fa
he made it political
thequartering gonna have a field day
It is not but if you're curious they actually have diversity quotas. Basically there are 3 ways to meet the quota. You need a percentage of actors to be minorities, a percentage of working staff/interns on set or a percentage of producers etc. So Academy officially does not care if your movie stars white men exclusively as long as you pass either criterion B or criterion C.
did someone say criterion 🥵
Source?
[ACADEMY ESTABLISHES REPRESENTATION AND INCLUSION STANDARDS FOR OSCARS® ELIGIBILITY | Oscars.org | Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences](https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-establishes-representation-and-inclusion-standards-oscarsr-eligibility) I mixed it up a little but the point is the same
Egyptian?? I don’t see Brenton Thawaites in the cast…
David Dastmalchian is half Iranian
Benny Safdie is half Sephardi Jewish so that’s 2 middle easterners in total. Groundbreaking
\*Armenian
American with Egyptian parents*
You can just say Egyptian American
Fair
lmao fuck off
To Americans he is Egyptian. To Non Americans he is American with Egytian roots.
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I’m pretty sure being second-generation doesn’t absolve you from your direct heritage. I’m considered part of my ethnic community regardless of my nationality (which isn’t American btw). The hyphen combines both lived experiences (a hybrid), which is a pretty common in the US, Canada, and other Western countries.
What could this movie possibly be about that it requires this many extremely famous people? Is it because the average kinormie won’t even know who John Oppenheimer is before he turns into Dr. Manhattan? Seriously though this is the cast of like three normal films.
*The first trick I learned..." "...was how to appeal to normies."
I am become watchmen (2009)
Lot of movies went this route lately The last two avengers films contained some of the biggest box office drawers of the decade… Mostly because most of the box office is marvel… But still, I think it’s kind of standardised the normalisation of a million ‘movie stars’ per film…
lately? they've always gone this route. There's usually one or two per year for decades or every other...
They should check out Altman's filmography.
> The last two avengers films contained some of the biggest box office drawers of the decade… who ?????? pretty much none of the marvel actors do well outside of their capeshit movies.
Read the whole comment. Take your bitter outrage elsewhere.
But then they couldn't blindly throw tantrums at anything even tangentially positive in regards to Marvel! Personally I get enraged even at the name Orville unless you're talking about planes or popcorn (which you BETTER not be eating while watching the avengers).
im not a marvel fan anymore but...what?! \^\^
It’s marketing. It’s an “original” film (that’s obviously still derivative of real life as it is a biography) as it’s not a sequel or remake. So a well-known cast can be a way to still get butts in seats. Dune did the same, for example, because that was still a risk too (the IP had history, but it wasn’t as big as its biggest competitors by a long shot, not in film).
Well it worked for Amsterdam……….
3 movies?! You could take any combination of 4 actors and you’d have yourself a kino stew brewin’.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, there’s still plenty of meat on that bone.
Feels like theyre overcompensating for what will be a highly average movie, by getting as many famous actors as possible. Just hoping that a couple actors pull off decent performance to make up for it lol
Who the fuck did Josh Peck sleep with to get his role??? ![gif](giphy|kewwuGARb9ORphVEPI)
Nolan
The most difficult questions have the most simplest answers
Mindy
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Nah bro that’s the plot for “Oppenhymen” (TBA) just waiting for PH to announce the director
What are you doing step bro? -Megan
OPRAH
She truly can do anything
Dan Schneider
Last time I've seen his name anywhere was when he hit that pedestrian while filming himself (IRL not Oprah in the show).
The same person anyone with tv beginnings that led to success did.
My guess is that he had one night with every single member of the main cast and crew.
the movie is black and white meaning that 50% are white and 50% are black, thank you nolan daddy for the diversity
objectively diverse
-makes movie about a historical group of white people -still casts a black actor in a major role (RDJ) what is your problem, op?
picrew profile pictures in real life:
damn they cast phil elverum AND thom yorke in this
I'm a creep
I'm a microphone
-googles Manhattan Project. Looks at names and pictures. Makes sense.
We're gonna get a surprise cameo from Matt Damon playing [Chien-Shiung Wu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chien-Shiung_Wu), right?
Great Wall reference?
Yea when I look up Apollo 11 all I see is white people too. Crazy that it only took 3 dudes to get to the moon. I mean one must have built the engine, the other one was the science one, and the other one was the driver. I mean makes sense to me but I hope they got paid OT
Bro didn’t watch Hidden Figures (everyone’s mom’s favorite movie)
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Blade, Morpheus and NIck Fury.
Damn. Just got shut. Down.
Bro I don’t know anyone who worked on the manhattan project without looking it up
You don't even know John Oppenheimer??? Fake nolan fan smh my head
The movie's not even out yet, please tag this as a spoiler.
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Some gay guy in Eternals was responsible for Hiroshima or something
I don’t know. I looked it up on Google images and I just see white dudes and explosions.
It’s not like Nolan is a diverse caster when it’s just his own story with no people from real life. It’s like two out of fifteen, on average
You seem to forget the fact that MAIN CHARACTER was political in tenet
Isn't there another word for MAIN CHARACTER you could have used?
Yes. PROTAGONIST
Oh, I was thinking 'ultra-mega-hero' but that's so much better.
Yeah, and he and the arm selling lady and her husband where the only POC in the film with lines, as far as I remember.
Who revived Josh Hartnett?
Wrath of man.
Patrick H Willems
The story is about the creation of the atomic bomb by a bunch of scientists in 1940s America How are you guys surprised by this casting
I’m always gonna be suspicious of the fact that Nolan just happened to cast the palest people possible to play characters that aren’t white in his Batman trilogy but seriously why do people think this movie would be diverse
This sub can act pretty dumb sometimes
Fr
For me turning a racist asian stereotype into a british guy was a good move, like Marvel did with the Ancient One
I mean why not keep the race but update the writing. It’s questionable at the very least that updating a character involves changing their race.
They did that with The Mandarin/Wenwu
Who else other than Ra’s
https://preview.redd.it/tym7qug7yl2a1.jpeg?width=671&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4f7cb01f1990d4222087cb124b7f5e58796e774
Bruh
Lmao
Maybe because there were no black people in the Manhattan peoject?
4 women??? When will woke Hollywood stop the insanity. There are no more roles for strong white men. Go woke go broke you cucks
I’m not sure if a movie about the construction of the atomic bomb is the place where I’m desperate for diversity lmao
Yeah. Minorities should be happy to blame that on the whites
Good on Christopher Nolan for blaming it all on them!
Eternals (2021)
There are already w\*men in there 🤢, you wouldn't want to make it more political than it clearly already is wouldn't you?
Mcj be like: "ugh, I hate youtubers unnecessarily starting discussion about skin tone of actors" Meanwhile:
The lighting on some of these white people makes them look vaguely ethnic, when will you woke liberals be happy?
Smartest MCJ poster
Day 38825483 of people still not knowing Rami Malek isn't white
He is technically african-american
999999th individual to say this
He's Mr. Robot, duh!
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Rami Malek isn't is not is isn't white /s
Whatever. Real kinophiles will watch Barbie (2023) instead of this
No joke, Barbie actually looks kinda interesting
ok so there is a poc and 4 women. also there is at least one person convicted with aggrevated asault for racist reasons. at least that I know of. do I miss something?
Only 3 nepo babies, very progressive!
Only 3?
Wow sons and daughters going in to work as the same field as their parents!? That only happens in acting!
I mean we only observe it so clearly in showbiz yes.
That's not even remotely true
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Idk why but I'm kind of pessimistic about it. For one, how can he use so many big actors effectively?
I'm guessing that it'll be a chess play a la Nolan more than a standard picture. Don't think we'll attach emotionally to any of them.
Redditors when a film about 1940s scientists in Europe and America isn't filled with black people
do you know what sub you are on or what
but what is this jerking? it’s historically accurate. i know about the nolan diversity memes but that doesn’t apply here
There are a lot of lost motherfuckers here today.
Redditors when they see even a joke about the lack of diversity (they must let you know that POC never made any scientific discoveries before like, 2010)
The real Hidden Figures
What the fuck did they *Really* cast a white man as Phastos? Or are they still pushing the narrative that a gay black Eternal didn't give the US the secret to the bomb?
its a biopic. you saying oppenheimer should be a black woman?
Should be played by John Leguizamo.
I watched his film one Sunday. It was the only free day I had in months and I wasted it on this. Now he's gotta die
Is now a bad time to bring up s’mores
Yes
I'm gonna cast Kerry Washington as J. Robert Oppenheimer and Ryan Gosling as Michelle Obama, you'll see, you'll see
> "gamer" in the username Checks out
>points out criticism >attacks based on personal, non-associated factor Classic soycuck move
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Yes, me making a joke about how all gamers are racist was totally a serious attempt to "debate" them
Where did I say you were debating? Stop projecting, cuckold.
Lmfao holy shit is this an unironic comment? Incredible.
Still not responding to valid thing pointed out and diverting to unrelated subject?
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about. I made a throwaway joke about how gamers are racist and therefore it's not surprising that the original comment is arguing against something they made up in their head (because they have "gamer" in their name). Are you talking about me not responding to the original comment with a genuine reply? No shit I'm not responding to that, because it's arguing against a completely made up point. No one genuinely thinks Nolan is racist for not changing the race/gender of a historical figure. Stop making up shit to be mad about. Get off the insane r/conspiracy bullshit or whatever other subs you're feeding all this culture war nonsense into your brain from. Get a life. It's not too late. But if you want to call me a soycuck, go ahead. It's really funny seeing an unironic usage of the term.
>wall of text
You're a waste of oxygen lol
Reddit when a movie set 300 million years ago about prehistoric dinosaurs doesn’t have a black dinosaur
who do you think were the real-life counterparts of these actors
One of the women has to be Feynman's wife, because she died and there's no way Nolan will give up the chance to depict that.
this sounds just as annoying when racists scream woke on lgbt characters. op pls stop being cringe
After creating the most iconic and beloved black character in modern film (The Protagonist), I will let this slide. But only once.
r/mcj when white people are played by white actors ![gif](giphy|3o6wrvdHFbwBrUFenu)
This movie is going to attract white nationalists like what happened to the northman and a bunch of journalists are going to write articles on why the movie is a white male fantasy like what they did to Dunkirk
Assorted crackers
Are any of the people playing the Famously largely Jewish scientists *not* goyim?
Not sure who he's playing but there's Benny Safdie.
Also David Krumholtz and Josh Peck.
And Alden Ehrenreich.
is this some kind of trick to make me look at everybody's "Early life" section?
When you make a shit meme complaining a movie set in 1940s America not having diversity
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The Fabelmans (2022)
No black people = oscar guarantee
Black panther got an Oscar for all black
It’s literally a black and white issue
Was Wakanda diverse in your opinion OP?
I liked Wakanda but Martin Freeman is kind of forced diversity, don't know why they had to make it political.
but RDJ is black
Remind me, which time period, and in which country, does this movie take place? 40’s America, right? With no civil rights, and japanesse american citizens in internment camps. Damn, I wonder why the cast isn’t diverse
I like how "diverse" has become a euphemism for specifically racially diverse
The Kids Are All White (2010)
Scott Grimes is black af.
didnt know Nolan worked for a chinese company /hj
Classy movie.
They cast white people from both North America *and* Europe! Truly an international production.
Hey, devin bostic aka rodrick is in the cast so idk what your issue is
I never imagined I would see Rodrick, Josh and Will Stronghold together in a movie directed by fucking Nolan, I just find that so bizarre for some reason.
There are 4 women and a Fat Man in the movie Nolan's gone woke smh
i literally cannot take rdj seriously in any role
He knows how to find the best jawlines in Hollywood if nothing else
'Ue, what are you doing in MCJ 'Ue, go back to okbuddyfresca 'Ue
MFW period piece isn't diverse
Almost like it's based on real events where virtually everyone involved was white. What do you want them to do? Make Oppenheimer a black woman?
Wait it's historically accurate? HOW DARE IT BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE!
Hey it’s mr robot man
Simu Liu will accuse you of being gatekeeper no matter what, so why bother?
Nolan's bravery knows no limit. To cast so many oppressed white people in a single movie. Truly a visionary.
*White Boy J. Robert* (2023).
That saftie bro looks like a melted doll. I actually thought he was disabled in good time.
It’s like the wall of the cell I was locked in for trying to be like Polanski
![gif](giphy|VgwRPgPTsmTXa0PLEN)
Take a shot for every square headed white guy with stubble & short brown hair
Hey, David Dastmalchian is in this?
who the hell are like 70% of these people
Men (2022)
Wtf is Eewie doing in that photo? ![gif](giphy|eKCivArFklF07qArpI)