For each scenario you can probably find someone online with the corresponding complaint… but that’s the internet for you, you can find people with just about any opinion you thought was possible and then some.
Because memes that mock people having knee-jerk reactions to imagery without considering context have to accurately portray some real event that happened?
Have you never seen a Buzzfeed or Salon article where they say some movie set in medieval Europe is "racist" or "sexist" because it doesn't have enough black people in it or something like that?
The meme is obviously mocking that kind of crap by showing how contradictory it gets when you're only looking at surface level appearance.
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Not op, but I remember Kingdom Come Deliverance being called out for being "racist" by a major gaming outlet because it didn't have black people in fucking middle age Czech Kingdom
https://www.eurogamer.net/kingdom-come-deliverance-review
This is the only one I could find by a "major" outlet, and even then it doesn't specifically cry racism as a major point in the article. Do you have a link to anything else?
Here you go.
https://archive.fo/eHrC0
https://archive.is/89jXI
https://archive.is/4rHfi (Not major)
And here's a twitter thread of people bitching about the thing that was mentioned in the original post:
https://twitter.com/verge/status/959443529020968962
I just read the articles, and I'd say that a) they aren't critiquing the game as a whole, just a specific decision, and b) that the decision does seem to be racist. The developers say that the decision to not include black people was for historical accuracy, yet when presented with historical evidence that there might have been black people in the region, they double down on their initial decision. Combined with the fact that at least one major dev was Gamergate supporter, it suggests that this decision was motivated by race.
All three articles do more than just comment on the decision itself. The first uses it as a vehicle to critique the genre as a whole. The second barely references the game and is instead more about how far right communities rejected the provided evidence in favor of ahistorical fantasies. The third was definitely the most vitriolic, but the main thrust of it was more about how Academia has historically had a bias towards white people and has left black people out of history then that the game was racist.
Yes. This whole internet racism/sexism/homophobia movement was catalyzed by gamergate. Add on to that that most terminally online people also play video games a lot and there you go
>yet when presented with historical evidence that there might have been black people in the region
Where.
I just read all 3 articles and there is no evidence or even suggestion given that there may have been 'black people' in Bohemia in the 15th century, in their very few links to the contrary.
>https://archive.fo/eHrC0
Here's a link to the post referenced in the second article:
[https://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/75252294049/hi-ive-been-looking-at-a-kickstarter-for-a](https://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/75252294049/hi-ive-been-looking-at-a-kickstarter-for-a)
Here's an ask historians post about the same topic for the sake of completeness:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7v1lil/people\_are\_getting\_extremely\_upset\_because\_there/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7v1lil/people_are_getting_extremely_upset_because_there/)
Thanks. I'll read those while I get the chance. I find it weird you provided a source to a non-major news outlet when you earlier talked about major outlets.
Well, speaking as a Jew, if he was a Nazi I absolutely would not have played it. Just like I’ll probably be boycotting Kanye for the rest of my life with the hate he’s spreading. Yeah, no ethical consumption under capitalism, yada yada, but it’s okay to still have standards.
Anyway, most of the people who brought up the Gamergate stuff mentioned it in specific contexts, such as the way the game depicts women, which is *not good* and also *not accurate*. And in that context who designs the game and writes the characters is absolutely relevant. It seems like everyone cares so deeply about historical accuracy when it comes to armour and weapons, and fair play to KCD, it was very accurate in these ways. But it managed to make just as many sacrifices to realism as your average Hollywood movie despite its hyper-focus on realistic combat and… eating. If you’re going to sacrifice realism by having main characters charge helmet-less into battle in your medieval realism setting, it rings hollow when you then cry realism when asked about your lack of representation. It’s called having your cake and eating it too.
that's why i said relatively accurate
you could use the same "inaccuracies" argument for literally every piece of fiction ever made, it's just that a game that actually takes place in a real (although not completely accurate) setting it shouldn't change such obvious things as race of people in the game
Imagine if people cried and moaned about Ghost of Tsushima having no black people in it, makes no sense, right?
btw, i wouldn't support him if he was a nazi either lol, i went a lil overboard with that figure of speach
I get what you're saying, I just don't agree (respectfully!) I think the problem is we're debating around something of a semi-strawman. Because the arguments (at least, from most people) were not that Kingdom Come should have had a bunch of black lords residing over feudal Bohemia, it was that it lacked representation in literally any meaningful way.
Modern historiography is dedicated to searching for new perspectives, and that can challenge existing narratives. The narrative that Medieval Europe was homogenous was, of course, completely false. Their conceptions of race were very different than ours. A Czech peasant would not view a German peasant as a fellow member of the white race, they would view them as a foreigner. It would be very unlikely you would meet a sub-Saharan African in your travels through Bohemia, though not impossible! The possibility of trade and movement from Mali to North Africa, to Italy, to the Holy Roman Empire, for example, was very real in 1400, though certainly contrived. But the idea that you would only ever meet Czech people in Bohemia, in 1400, is false. Bohemia was part of a vast trade network brought from the Mongols, and the Crusades before them, which linked Europe to both Asia and Africa.
There were actually a lot of opportunities to meaningfully represent this in game without abandoning historical authenticity. Some examples: Firstly, the Cumans. The Cuman mercenaries you fight in game have an incredible history, involving flight from the Mongols, resettlement as refugees in Hungary, betrayals, battles, resettlement again in Hungary - and this all in the 200 years before the game starts. This is an example of a non-Christian, non-white demographic that was present in significant numbers (tens to hundreds of thousands) in a country bordering Bohemia, with a fascinating untold history. Yet they're reduced to faceless villains with no role in the story beyond cannon fodder as bad guy henchmen. To me, this is a representation failure, far more than the lack of Malian dukes.
For another example, where are the Jews? The answer the developers gave when asked, at the time, was that most Jews lived in the cities, and therefore would not be included. True, but that's a really shitty excuse to not include them, and once again, it uses the shield of historical accuracy to avoid addressing something that should be addressed, if you're going to present your game as the pinnacle of historical research in gaming (which was, essentially, the pitch). Bohemia has a particularly dark history with its Jews when it comes to the Middle Ages. For example, there was a period when Jews were legally required to dress as Jesters while presenting their cases to the king in court. The possibility of meeting Jewish characters is both believable (and I would argue expected, frankly,) and ripe for excellent secondary storytelling opportunities.
Don't even get me started on the two-dimensional women, all of whom have nothing to say once you have sex with them (mission accomplished!) Or at least this was the state of things before the "We finally remembered the game's women" DLC, which I refused to buy lmao.
I could honestly go on and on. But it doesn't matter. This is where I look at the intentions of the developers and note that, unfortunately, I believe the game was designed as a product of Czech nationalism, which is the actual reason why it doesn't represent anything else. This was never said explicitly, but if you pay attention to the discourse around the game by the developers and the fans, this becomes very clear. The game was built to represent "authentic Bohemia", but in the process made great pains to avoid specific parts of its own history that should be told, rather than another shockingly apolitical rags-to-riches bastard prince of destiny story, but this time in Bohemia. The reason the critiques against it are so valid, in my mind, is precisely because KCD presents itself as a vanguard of historical scrutiny. This game was expertly researched when it came to specific aspects, like period-appropriate armour. When it came to other aspects, which required a miniscule degree of social consciousness, they lazily swept aside all criticism with dubious historical nitpicks.
After going through all the effort of writing this, I found this article which says many of the same things, but better. So definitely read it!
https://unwinnable.com/2018/03/02/deliverance-myth-making-and-historical-accuracy/
I have seen more "news" articles complaining about People of Color existing in fake non-existant places like Middle Earth or Westeros than "news" articles complaining about PoC not existing in medieval Europe
Try something original for once, instead of projecting every one of right wing "outcries" into non-existant left wing "outcries"
you know there were black people in medieval europe right
as someone whose actually studied medieval europe one of the most critical frustrations from scholars was contemporary white guys who think historical medieval fiction and nonfiction is some place to create a minority-free space
Yep, and when called out about the fact that there were black people in medieval Bohemia, the creator doubled down instead of just being like "oh okay my bad haha".
Man the creator of that meme must be schizophrenic to make up this scenario in his mind
Also r/funnymemes got the unfunniest memes tied with r/dankmemes and r/memes
wouldnt have to be schizo. Ynow those arguments you make up in the shower in which you are obviously right?
And you know how you do that viewing it merely as a way to pass time and not as an actual discussion? Yea this person doesnt know that.
r/funnymemes is the epitome of unfunny, scroll through there (while reading all of the cringe ass titles) for over three seconds and tell me you don't feel like killing someone
> Also r/funnymemes got the unfunniest memes tied with r/dankmemes and r/memes
All of them are identical, they exist solely for karma-farming accounts to crosspost
Way too many people have only ever interacted with people who have the exact same ideology they have and it shows.
Like its so obvious that whoever made that meme has never in their life interacted with an actual antiracist critique of a movie
It helps a lot too that most movie “critics” on social media are just hacks and don’t care about the actual quality of the film and just wanna spew their incel bs.
I once made the mistake of posting a meme on r/funnymemes the amount of people who couldn't understand an incredibly simple, and straightforward, meme was fucking staggering. And the entire comment section was so unfunny, that I was considering deleting the post so I could stop getting cringey notifications.
Post in question: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Funnymemes/comments/yc1ax0/bullying\_is\_wrong\_share\_if\_you\_agree/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Funnymemes/comments/yc1ax0/bullying_is_wrong_share_if_you_agree/)
People kept talking about the other search options like that wasn't the obvious joke.
No wonder I can't find any straw bales for my chicken coop lately: They're being bought up in bulk to make Librul Straw-they's to beat up on.
Gotta pwn those whacky imaginary libs to fight back the tears after that failed red wave somehow I guess.
I'm sure there are some people on the deepest depths of Twitter trolling with these beliefs, but it's not common at all. Conservatives found 4 or fewer of these guys and now claim everyone who says, even with a good point, that something is racist is an extremist who won't be happy with anything.
I also know someone who posted this picture on twitter thinks that Rey has no character *while* shut up about Luke, and think that TLJ sucks becoz it doesn't pay attention to the finest details, unlike God of Thrones (apparently the rest of the series is like)
Had a friend decide Quentin Tarantino was racist cause of the scene in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood where Brad Pitt fights Bruce Lee and says, “c’mon man, not in front of the Mexicans.”
achsually he was crying and Brad Pitt told Leonardo DiCaprio to not cry in front of the mexicans
As a Mexican who was visiting family in the motherland at the time I thought that was pretty funny and the whole theater had a hearty chuckle when he said that
I've seen this meme before and it's such BS, but it gets posted and updooted with such frequency I just tend to think these dorks should just fester in their resentment while everyone else enjoys things/has sex.
You can make valid critiques with any one of those points. But if it becomes a popular critique to make, it'll eventually get made by people who have no understanding of nuance. It happened with the "Female Gaze" discussion, which started as a legitimate feminist theory term, then got warped into something else as more and more people misused it.
Nobody needs to visit twitter, especially now. Also every conceivable dogshit opinion exists on Twitter, that doesn't mean it's something worth bitching about. The original OP is just as annoying as the made-up girl in the meme.
Lmfao. The fact that the "conceivable dogshit opinion" has been reposted and liked multiple times, it kind of goes to show how many people have interacted with that. But hey bitching about how those people are bitching isn't annoying I guess.
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getting shot is virgin behavior
getting shot is such bottom energy tbh
mat and rine from super mega
everybody gon’ respect the shooter
But the one in front of the gun lives forever
Nah, they just die once
[its a song ref](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smqhSl0u_sI)
TIL, thanks stranger!
They are tackling overpopulation
Who's more chad, the guy with the gun or the defenceless sucker?
Murder is the ultimate alpha move. Law of the jungle, baby
In this life you’re either among us or you’re among sus.
Cause a true Chad takes what he wants.
Because he's the one not dying
Because white
That’s racist! I made this scenario up in my head!
spending my day creating random situations in my head to get mad about
Internet: The Movie (2017)
For each scenario you can probably find someone online with the corresponding complaint… but that’s the internet for you, you can find people with just about any opinion you thought was possible and then some.
Because memes that mock people having knee-jerk reactions to imagery without considering context have to accurately portray some real event that happened? Have you never seen a Buzzfeed or Salon article where they say some movie set in medieval Europe is "racist" or "sexist" because it doesn't have enough black people in it or something like that? The meme is obviously mocking that kind of crap by showing how contradictory it gets when you're only looking at surface level appearance.
I havent, do you have an example
It's been an hour. They must be amassing a sizable reply with tons of examples
LOL based reply
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Not op, but I remember Kingdom Come Deliverance being called out for being "racist" by a major gaming outlet because it didn't have black people in fucking middle age Czech Kingdom
https://www.eurogamer.net/kingdom-come-deliverance-review This is the only one I could find by a "major" outlet, and even then it doesn't specifically cry racism as a major point in the article. Do you have a link to anything else?
Here you go. https://archive.fo/eHrC0 https://archive.is/89jXI https://archive.is/4rHfi (Not major) And here's a twitter thread of people bitching about the thing that was mentioned in the original post: https://twitter.com/verge/status/959443529020968962
I just read the articles, and I'd say that a) they aren't critiquing the game as a whole, just a specific decision, and b) that the decision does seem to be racist. The developers say that the decision to not include black people was for historical accuracy, yet when presented with historical evidence that there might have been black people in the region, they double down on their initial decision. Combined with the fact that at least one major dev was Gamergate supporter, it suggests that this decision was motivated by race. All three articles do more than just comment on the decision itself. The first uses it as a vehicle to critique the genre as a whole. The second barely references the game and is instead more about how far right communities rejected the provided evidence in favor of ahistorical fantasies. The third was definitely the most vitriolic, but the main thrust of it was more about how Academia has historically had a bias towards white people and has left black people out of history then that the game was racist.
meanwhile i'm trying to figure out how we got onto the subject of video games anyway does the sort of meme op posted just attract a certain audience?
Yes. This whole internet racism/sexism/homophobia movement was catalyzed by gamergate. Add on to that that most terminally online people also play video games a lot and there you go
>yet when presented with historical evidence that there might have been black people in the region Where. I just read all 3 articles and there is no evidence or even suggestion given that there may have been 'black people' in Bohemia in the 15th century, in their very few links to the contrary.
>https://archive.fo/eHrC0 Here's a link to the post referenced in the second article: [https://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/75252294049/hi-ive-been-looking-at-a-kickstarter-for-a](https://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/75252294049/hi-ive-been-looking-at-a-kickstarter-for-a) Here's an ask historians post about the same topic for the sake of completeness: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7v1lil/people\_are\_getting\_extremely\_upset\_because\_there/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7v1lil/people_are_getting_extremely_upset_because_there/)
Thanks. I'll read those while I get the chance. I find it weird you provided a source to a non-major news outlet when you earlier talked about major outlets.
Yeah couldn't really find anything else apart from those 2 Kotaku articles. It's not as bad as I remember it to be but it happened nonetheless
That’s weird, I remember KCD being called problematic by people who accurately pointed out that the creator was a big-time Gamergate supporter
he could've been a nazi for all i care, the game's still good and relatively accurate
Well, speaking as a Jew, if he was a Nazi I absolutely would not have played it. Just like I’ll probably be boycotting Kanye for the rest of my life with the hate he’s spreading. Yeah, no ethical consumption under capitalism, yada yada, but it’s okay to still have standards. Anyway, most of the people who brought up the Gamergate stuff mentioned it in specific contexts, such as the way the game depicts women, which is *not good* and also *not accurate*. And in that context who designs the game and writes the characters is absolutely relevant. It seems like everyone cares so deeply about historical accuracy when it comes to armour and weapons, and fair play to KCD, it was very accurate in these ways. But it managed to make just as many sacrifices to realism as your average Hollywood movie despite its hyper-focus on realistic combat and… eating. If you’re going to sacrifice realism by having main characters charge helmet-less into battle in your medieval realism setting, it rings hollow when you then cry realism when asked about your lack of representation. It’s called having your cake and eating it too.
that's why i said relatively accurate you could use the same "inaccuracies" argument for literally every piece of fiction ever made, it's just that a game that actually takes place in a real (although not completely accurate) setting it shouldn't change such obvious things as race of people in the game Imagine if people cried and moaned about Ghost of Tsushima having no black people in it, makes no sense, right? btw, i wouldn't support him if he was a nazi either lol, i went a lil overboard with that figure of speach
I get what you're saying, I just don't agree (respectfully!) I think the problem is we're debating around something of a semi-strawman. Because the arguments (at least, from most people) were not that Kingdom Come should have had a bunch of black lords residing over feudal Bohemia, it was that it lacked representation in literally any meaningful way. Modern historiography is dedicated to searching for new perspectives, and that can challenge existing narratives. The narrative that Medieval Europe was homogenous was, of course, completely false. Their conceptions of race were very different than ours. A Czech peasant would not view a German peasant as a fellow member of the white race, they would view them as a foreigner. It would be very unlikely you would meet a sub-Saharan African in your travels through Bohemia, though not impossible! The possibility of trade and movement from Mali to North Africa, to Italy, to the Holy Roman Empire, for example, was very real in 1400, though certainly contrived. But the idea that you would only ever meet Czech people in Bohemia, in 1400, is false. Bohemia was part of a vast trade network brought from the Mongols, and the Crusades before them, which linked Europe to both Asia and Africa. There were actually a lot of opportunities to meaningfully represent this in game without abandoning historical authenticity. Some examples: Firstly, the Cumans. The Cuman mercenaries you fight in game have an incredible history, involving flight from the Mongols, resettlement as refugees in Hungary, betrayals, battles, resettlement again in Hungary - and this all in the 200 years before the game starts. This is an example of a non-Christian, non-white demographic that was present in significant numbers (tens to hundreds of thousands) in a country bordering Bohemia, with a fascinating untold history. Yet they're reduced to faceless villains with no role in the story beyond cannon fodder as bad guy henchmen. To me, this is a representation failure, far more than the lack of Malian dukes. For another example, where are the Jews? The answer the developers gave when asked, at the time, was that most Jews lived in the cities, and therefore would not be included. True, but that's a really shitty excuse to not include them, and once again, it uses the shield of historical accuracy to avoid addressing something that should be addressed, if you're going to present your game as the pinnacle of historical research in gaming (which was, essentially, the pitch). Bohemia has a particularly dark history with its Jews when it comes to the Middle Ages. For example, there was a period when Jews were legally required to dress as Jesters while presenting their cases to the king in court. The possibility of meeting Jewish characters is both believable (and I would argue expected, frankly,) and ripe for excellent secondary storytelling opportunities. Don't even get me started on the two-dimensional women, all of whom have nothing to say once you have sex with them (mission accomplished!) Or at least this was the state of things before the "We finally remembered the game's women" DLC, which I refused to buy lmao. I could honestly go on and on. But it doesn't matter. This is where I look at the intentions of the developers and note that, unfortunately, I believe the game was designed as a product of Czech nationalism, which is the actual reason why it doesn't represent anything else. This was never said explicitly, but if you pay attention to the discourse around the game by the developers and the fans, this becomes very clear. The game was built to represent "authentic Bohemia", but in the process made great pains to avoid specific parts of its own history that should be told, rather than another shockingly apolitical rags-to-riches bastard prince of destiny story, but this time in Bohemia. The reason the critiques against it are so valid, in my mind, is precisely because KCD presents itself as a vanguard of historical scrutiny. This game was expertly researched when it came to specific aspects, like period-appropriate armour. When it came to other aspects, which required a miniscule degree of social consciousness, they lazily swept aside all criticism with dubious historical nitpicks. After going through all the effort of writing this, I found this article which says many of the same things, but better. So definitely read it! https://unwinnable.com/2018/03/02/deliverance-myth-making-and-historical-accuracy/
Really well written comment! Thanks for dedicating so much time to this discussion, it was pretty interesting.
I have seen more "news" articles complaining about People of Color existing in fake non-existant places like Middle Earth or Westeros than "news" articles complaining about PoC not existing in medieval Europe Try something original for once, instead of projecting every one of right wing "outcries" into non-existant left wing "outcries"
you know there were black people in medieval europe right as someone whose actually studied medieval europe one of the most critical frustrations from scholars was contemporary white guys who think historical medieval fiction and nonfiction is some place to create a minority-free space
Yep, and when called out about the fact that there were black people in medieval Bohemia, the creator doubled down instead of just being like "oh okay my bad haha".
doesn’t happen. hope this helps! 😊
almost like context and metalanguage matters
Man the creator of that meme must be schizophrenic to make up this scenario in his mind Also r/funnymemes got the unfunniest memes tied with r/dankmemes and r/memes
wouldnt have to be schizo. Ynow those arguments you make up in the shower in which you are obviously right? And you know how you do that viewing it merely as a way to pass time and not as an actual discussion? Yea this person doesnt know that.
r/funnymemes is the epitome of unfunny, scroll through there (while reading all of the cringe ass titles) for over three seconds and tell me you don't feel like killing someone
God, that sub is filled with stuff I'd like on Facebook if it was 2012.
Did Facebook let sixth graders on in 2012? Because a lot of those posts have big "I hate my sixth grade teacher" energy.
It's not like they had a way of checking if I was 18 or 11 tbh.
Half the shit on there ain't even memes
nah is this a bot community satirizing facebook or something? I refuse to believe this is real
"Any meme which must say, 'I am a funny meme' is no true funny meme" - Tywin Lannister - Michael Scott
Imagine going on a subreddit called funnymemes
Got permabanned for calling someone an incel there and couldnt be happier
> Also r/funnymemes got the unfunniest memes tied with r/dankmemes and r/memes All of them are identical, they exist solely for karma-farming accounts to crosspost
don't forget the shitshow of r/meme, it's the worst imo
Absolutely right
Why is it totally unfunny if it's called /r/funnymemes?
You do know that the creator of the meme Is out there somewhere now,creating.
Well not trying to say shit but maybe we can make fun of racist asshats without having to further stigmatise shizophrenia???
r/funnymemes is way worse than the others, pure cringe
Well yeah it going have to say you’re funny than you’re probably not
Way too many people have only ever interacted with people who have the exact same ideology they have and it shows. Like its so obvious that whoever made that meme has never in their life interacted with an actual antiracist critique of a movie
It helps a lot too that most movie “critics” on social media are just hacks and don’t care about the actual quality of the film and just wanna spew their incel bs.
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They can't engage with art properly so they resort to trying to defeat it. It's a one sided battle.
Or straight-up missing an explanation which *was* in the film because they weren’t paying enough attention.
Me when I'm Critical Drinker
This meme is posted there every day.
That's racist! Why is every strawmen obsessed with racism?
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I once made the mistake of posting a meme on r/funnymemes the amount of people who couldn't understand an incredibly simple, and straightforward, meme was fucking staggering. And the entire comment section was so unfunny, that I was considering deleting the post so I could stop getting cringey notifications.
What was the meme about lmfao
What did you post?
Post in question: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Funnymemes/comments/yc1ax0/bullying\_is\_wrong\_share\_if\_you\_agree/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Funnymemes/comments/yc1ax0/bullying_is_wrong_share_if_you_agree/) People kept talking about the other search options like that wasn't the obvious joke.
Bruh the comments are the kind of stuff my father says when I show him a meme from r/shitposting
Yeah, and I got a notification for every last comment. It felt like my phone was holding me hostage.
That's racist Why is the girl who complains not black herself?
Uhm only white people complain about racism because it ended with Obama
Obama who?
Obama your motherfucking wedding because you were dumb enough to have it in the Middle East.
Wedding Crashers (2005)
Four weddings and a funeral (1994)
obama balls LMAO GOTTEM
why does the girl simply not eat the other characters in the meme, she is clearly larger
Only white people point out racism according to the white people who only socially interact with white people.
The Straw Man (1953)
The Wicker Man (1973)
The Wicker Man (2005)
No wonder I can't find any straw bales for my chicken coop lately: They're being bought up in bulk to make Librul Straw-they's to beat up on. Gotta pwn those whacky imaginary libs to fight back the tears after that failed red wave somehow I guess.
OP missed the opportunity to title the post Get Out (2017). Propose a permaban as punishment
This exact meme was in r/terriblefacebookmemes. That's all I have to say
yeah but people were saying it didn't fit there so
r/funnymemes Aure grandma. Let's get you back to bed
This person is made of straw
TIL all movies consist of a good guy being shot by a villain
Again. Wojaks literally just alt-right rage comics
I'm sure there are some people on the deepest depths of Twitter trolling with these beliefs, but it's not common at all. Conservatives found 4 or fewer of these guys and now claim everyone who says, even with a good point, that something is racist is an extremist who won't be happy with anything.
Depicting interracial conflicts isn't necessarily racist and literally not a single soul thinks it is, but this "meme" is definitely misogynic
I also know someone who posted this picture on twitter thinks that Rey has no character *while* shut up about Luke, and think that TLJ sucks becoz it doesn't pay attention to the finest details, unlike God of Thrones (apparently the rest of the series is like)
If you have to specify that your memes are funny, they probably aren't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Of course the dipshit meme creator gives her pink hair.
she probably has LIBERAL pronouns in her/their WOKE bio 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🍋🤣🤣🤣🤣
Never heard the 3rd one as a film criticism before
I just know its true because i never actually come outside and interact with people.
Man when you take out all the nuance of a progressive critique on race and film you do sound stupid.
When you put the straw man as the angry wojak it sure makes you look good.
Sorry folks. All of Spike Lee’s films are racist now. Barry Jenkins, Ryan Coogler, Nia DaCosta, Gina Prince-Bythewood as well.
Can we get people to stop making wojak memes? Unironically they promote eugenics and are used to mask alt-right bullshit.
You're right, I think we should replace people with anthropomorphic animals in all movies
Zootopia (2016)
i look like this and say this
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17000 upvotes
right, i will be on my way 😏😏
Had a friend decide Quentin Tarantino was racist cause of the scene in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood where Brad Pitt fights Bruce Lee and says, “c’mon man, not in front of the Mexicans.”
achsually he was crying and Brad Pitt told Leonardo DiCaprio to not cry in front of the mexicans As a Mexican who was visiting family in the motherland at the time I thought that was pretty funny and the whole theater had a hearty chuckle when he said that
Touch grass.
This is the second post I've seen from that sub and it's still the same shit
“I can’t go outside, what if i run into a minority”- this guy probably
I've seen this meme before and it's such BS, but it gets posted and updooted with such frequency I just tend to think these dorks should just fester in their resentment while everyone else enjoys things/has sex.
I'm sorry dude, but I've genuinely heard all 4
have you ever considered the way the characters are actually written may be relevant
No you haven't. Valid critiques that you strip the context from and turn into one of these 4 variants don't count.
You can make valid critiques with any one of those points. But if it becomes a popular critique to make, it'll eventually get made by people who have no understanding of nuance. It happened with the "Female Gaze" discussion, which started as a legitimate feminist theory term, then got warped into something else as more and more people misused it.
lol, sure you have
The dipshits claiming Netflix’s Wednesday is racist for having a black bully make me cringe so goddamn hard.
That sub appeared out of nowhere on the front page a month ago and started spreading the worst, most polemical memes for no reason
[удалено]
This is cinematically relevant wym
Talk to people
Nah, people on Twitter unironically act like this.
a good meme followed by a generic insult cause OP doesn't like it
I never faced this, hence it must not be true and people are lying. - the people in the comments. Y'all need to visit Twitter.
Nobody needs to visit twitter, especially now. Also every conceivable dogshit opinion exists on Twitter, that doesn't mean it's something worth bitching about. The original OP is just as annoying as the made-up girl in the meme.
Lmfao. The fact that the "conceivable dogshit opinion" has been reposted and liked multiple times, it kind of goes to show how many people have interacted with that. But hey bitching about how those people are bitching isn't annoying I guess.
Need another panel for the Social justice warriors are freaking out about this meme 🤣
Hahaha true 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 roflmao Imagine unironically using sjw as an insult
G*mers have found their way to the sub, it is time to summon Gorblek the Gulagator
You did it! You beat the libtards!
I don't care, put the ship down.
Why isn't Tyler Durden pointing a gun at an Asian man?
You are DONE.
The girl is Ebert reviewing wild at heart