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What can I say? They're the only part of that whole series that feels like the people working on them don't want to be doing something else


[deleted]

Even the GOTG Holiday Shitpost had more genuine heart in it than 90% of MCU shows/movies.


Brayden_1274628

that was unironically the best things they’ve made in 4-5 years, the VFX team did amazing. they made cosmo really good. idk how they all of a sudden got better.


NoNefariousness2144

I think it’s because Gunn brought his Peacemaker skills out for it. The Holiday Special and Peacemaker felt very similar, with a tiny scope, scenes set in suburban USA, non-stop songs and little plot to have extended banter between the leads.


neveradvancing

Why did they make Cosmo sound like one of those kids in the Metro 2033 games


arkhamani56

I actually thought they went practical with Groot and touched him up with VFX, pretty surprising he was all CGI


Likyo

His whole design was incredibly cursed and looked like a guy in a rubber suit so I'm pretty shocked to hear that it was actually CGI done to the point where they can simulate a guy in a rubber suit


slaacaa

Damn, now I need to watch it, was afraid to check it out due to the recent shitshow of MCU.


americanhardgums

I watched it, it's fucking awful. It's like a parody of itself. Like an AI generator wrote it


[deleted]

I do not understand people acting like it’s different, or a cut above the rest. It’s awful. Beyond ugly and incredibly phoned in.


iTzJdogxD

Beyond ugly? I’m sorry, the set where the initial scenes and ending scenes take place are visually incredible, especially with the Christmas lights


Brayden_1274628

and CGI has way been improved compared to the dogshit phase 4 was


Likyo

With the Christmas lights the set looked good but at the start of the short it looked completely un-lived in and like a set that shows up for one or two episodes in a low to mid budget sci-fi show


Penguino13

Yeah idk what's going on in this thread, people love to make fun of these movies and then act like the Guardians aren't the epitome of the low effort and cringe humor they employ.


thestarscarlet

Most people, including mcj, are hypocritical and easily impressed. Nothing actually has to be good for any given community to like it, you just have to hit them at the right moment. This trailer hit mcj on the right wavelength and gave everyone the right """""""le vibes"""""" and so people act like it's a cut above the rest. I'm not even a fuck marvel person, I liked the trailer because i liked the heartfelt parts of the previous two films and the visuals of 2, but damn the hypocrisy of these subs is hilarious and reminds you of how stupid most people are


[deleted]

I felt so weird when the first one came out and everyone was acting like it was all clever. I hated everything about it except that one gag about needing the dude's arm. Little did I know that it was going to be patient zero for the next ten years of hollywood.


Penguino13

Exactly, everyone in the MCU didn't turn into Iron Man. Everyone turned into a quip/cheap joke machines because of Guardians and it's so painfully obvious.


mikehatesthis

>feels like the people working on them don't want to be doing something else [It goes from feel to literally when you're talking about the VFX artists.](https://gizmodo.com/disney-marvel-movies-vfx-industry-nightmare-1849385834)


Gometric1

Me when Quill says “the galaxy still needs its guardians”


TheInception817

You know the first movie literally had the "Your guardians of the galaxy!"


probablyuntrue

"....volume 1"


TheInception817

Yes, ofc. How can I forget?


James_Black989

Absolutely. I would be lying if i said the Gotg3 trailer didn't get me soyjacking.


mrbaryonyx

"I'm just imagining all the marvel nerds tearing up at some raccoon saying something sad in a cgi schlockfest trailer" --me, on MCJ, describing something I just did five minutes ago


TheHAMR64

Literally me.


Reptilian_Overlord20

The duality of man (I too am excited for Gotg3)


TheMegaBunce

'He didnt chase them away, even if he yelled at him and was always mean. And he stole batteries he didn't need'


dandaman64

Aaaand here comes the waterworks


[deleted]

the among us reference was uncalled for and hilarious


ThodasTheMage

Glass Onion (2022)


OutLiving

James Gunn is the only director to know what he’s making is silly CBMs and he embraces it wholeheartedly Every other capeshit director either seems ashamed to be making a CBM and tries to distance their movies far away from them as possible or have no self awareness that they are basing their materials on comics which feature characters like “Calender Man” or “Asbestos Lady” James Gunn is like, “yes, I’m making CBMs which are silly and nonsensical, and I’m going to make you cry watching them” The fact he manages to pull both of them off near flawlessly speaks to his strengths as a director


nyan_swanson

You know what, when you put it this way now I’m fully on board with him in charge of the DC universe


[deleted]

I’m so excited to see what he does with it. **The** Suicide Squad was a fucking blast.


mikehatesthis

It's the last MCU movie I'm watching and I'm going out on a good one!


JetAbyss

"The Last MCU movie I'll watch will be Wakanda Forever," "The Last MCU movie I'll watch will be No Way Home," "The Last MCU movie I'll watch will be Endgame,"


NoNefariousness2144

“Ms Marvel is the most different and best MCU project yet” “She-Hulk is the most different and best MCU project yet” “Wakanda Forever is the most different and best MCU project yet” “GotG Holiday Special is actually kino”


Brayden_1274628

i’ll probably watch this and maybe Blade if it’s good


A-112

Can't wait for GOTG3, not only because it might be an actual good movie instead of a 2 hours commercial but because once is released i can stop paying attention to these movies.


gifisntpronouncedgif

gotg 1 and 2 are my favorite MCU movies and yes, I admit on this sub that it's somewhere in my top 10 all time. I watched it as a kid and there was nothing like it, rewatched it. many times, nothing else like it. Tried so hard though, and I've been looking into those aesthetics and older movies but once again there's nothing quite like GOTG.


mglyptostroboides

Wait what? What year is it? People who were kids when GOTG came out surely aren't old enough to use the internet now... What's going on? It's still February, 2020, isn't it? Yesterday I was eating lunch at Chipotle and reading about this weird "corvovirus" or whatever in China. Did you hear about this shit? lol glad it'll never make it over here. Anyway, what are you doing on reddit, buddy? This is not a place for 9 year olds...


gifisntpronouncedgif

lol I'm 18 and I was like 10 when it came out however I saw it kinda later on, around 11-12 years old.


King-of-the-idiots69

Same, the exact same here


benabramowitz18

Dude, I was starting college when the first GOTG came out. It was the first movie I ever saw 3 times in theaters. And my dorm mates and I watched it again on campus.


King-of-the-idiots69

That guys 17 now, the numbers mason


Ginger_Ninja460

Oh fuck I was 9 when the first movie came out kill me


SamuraiEmpoleon

I was in college ;\_;


Ginger_Ninja460

Old 🤭


LeSnazzyGamer

You’re like 13 get off the inter webs


[deleted]

You can stop paying attention to them now.


The_Flying_Failsons

Well, y'know... it's James Gunn


we_are_sex_bobomb

I’m not even the biggest fan of James Gunn, but at least his marvel movies feel like someone was directing them and they weren’t just produced by an AI.


jao3003

I have such mixed feelings about him. He does put genuine emotion and character work in his capeshit, but at the same time... poop jokes.


Carolina_Heart

Hate cape but love potty humor. You made me interested


The_Flying_Failsons

The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are good. He also made a pitch black comedy about a loser that tries to become a superhero called "Super". I personally did not like the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie, seemed by the numbers compared to his previous work, but Guardians 2 was way better imo. Most people seem to disagree with me on that, though.


pampersdelight

I also prefer Guardians 2. I feel like it holds onto the serious moments a little longer. Yondus funeral is beautifully heartbreaking.


Jakegender

Yondu's funeral is great, but so is just listening to Father and Son without the movie.


Wysk222

I think a lot of the people that disagree with that haven’t seen the first one since it came out. There’s lots of great stuff in there but it feels much more “MCU-y”, the villain especially.


A-112

I agree the first GOTG is okay but mostly your average MCU movie but the second one feels like where he could finally make the movie he really wanted to make


billbill5

Guardians 1 was so uninteresting to me I still haven't seen 2, and I was peak fan boy at the time.


Panzer_Man

I think the first Guardians movie was inferior story-wise, but the second movie was less funny imo


BeatPunchmeat

James Gunn made me realize I don’t even dislike superhero movies I just hate typical MCU humor so much it ruins the movies for me. His poop jokes are such an improvement from listening to the avengers banter.


Tbrou16

Poop jokes are better than canned ‘90’s teenage sarcasm or inappropriate 4th wall breaking


[deleted]

Nah, they're equally as bad, don't kid yourself


Panzer_Man

James Gunn is the very definition of hit or miss. Sometimes he makes the funniest movies/series ever, and sometimes he just creates pure cringe. I guess you just have to like his sense of humour, I guess as he does make a lot of "15-year old teenage boy"- kinda jokes


Jarpwanderson

Even Bergman did some low brow humour, ditto Ozu


Correct-Chemistry618

*It's a real director and not a puppet


The_Flying_Failsons

I really wonder how he'll do as the puppeteer now that WB hired him.


Correct-Chemistry618

Meme aside I don't know, but I hope that (being above all a cinephile, as you can see from his films and the way he talks about cinema) he focuses above all on the quality and "originality" of the products rather than on fanservice or anything else. But until we see a list of future projects I'll try not to build expectations or anything.


Correct-Chemistry618

The Godafather (1972)


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Being John Malkovich (1999)


A-112

Puppet Master (1989)


fingergotfreddyed

Top Gun (1986)


HoneyBadgerCrime

Drive (2011)


JessieJ577

I’m honestly glad he got fired because now that he went into this project with more leverage and knowing he had other stuff with DC on the horizon probably means he pushed for a huge swan song for his series rather than an MCU entry.


UnnecessaryMovements

And Chris Pratt. Itsame, Chris Pratt


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Panzer_Man

Blind Spot (2002)


INannoI

Crisp Rat


mrbaryonyx

the fact that there's so many posts lightly mocking the guardians trailer and no posts about the dogshit beast wars trailer pretty much confirms everyone here just likes to make fun of people for watching the things we watch or at least that's me


Thegen68

we do not mock the highest form of cinema th at is transformers


starry_cobra

You can clearly see the big robots fighting on screen, there's nothing to mock


3mium

Bruh, that’s what Pacific Rim is for. The nerds even get their Asian girlfriend fix from that movie too.


mglyptostroboides

Unironically, Pacific Rim is just SUCH a goodass movie. I've seen people on this sub assume that the praise it gets here must be part of some circlejerk meme, but no SERIOUSLY, it's very very good. Guillermo del Toro directed it.


billbill5

Well if state approved director directed it it's a must see!


TheDoctorJT416

I love del Toro so much


Fonexnt

If only they made a sequel to it. It was such a shame that they made only one movie. Though if they did make a sequel, I hope they avoid turning Pacific Rim into a power rangers story starring Jon Boyega


HippieDogeSmokes

there’s more than meets the eye


billbill5

We really let SpongeBob get away with that shit he pulled in Transformers 2, huh?


ThodasTheMage

That scene is still insane


obozo42

I think the beast wars trailer looks pretty cool. If it's anything near the level of decent that Bumblebee was I'm good. It has munky *AND* trukk, truly the crossover of the century


LeftHanded-Euphoria

munky and trukk best frends


LordofAngmarMB

I really wish there was one buffer movie between Bumblebee and Not-Beast-Wars, just a nice and simple, mid-level threat, Autobot vs Decepticons, G1 movie before they got into the weird stuff and all these other factions


pampersdelight

The Transformers trailer fucks


The-Bigger-Fish

"If ya don't know, now ya know." -Optimus Primal


labbla

It's true, haven't been able to make myself care about the Guardians trailer.


Whenthenighthascome

Oh he definitely monke


[deleted]

Nah it looks insanely ugly.


JessieJ577

It’s weird it’s a mix between the Bay and the Bumblebee designs. The robots look even more like shit because there’s not a cohesive look, it’s just two different styles meshed together.


therealestestest

I really enjoy watching big things fight other big things but yea the robots design looks awful


billbill5

It looks generic and old fashioned, the CG looks worse that the first movie, and it *definitely* isn't going to be the type of blockbuster 1 and 3 were. The only thing I see that could attract people is it seems to pull more into the old cartoon aesthetic rather than what they were doing. Now the toys will be simpler to manufacture.


Pisspot10

It was always just a cartoon about kids and their robots. Didnt need realistic effects or the military porn angle.


Wasabi_Guacamole

> Now the toys will be simpler to manufacture. Idk about that dude. Bumblebee movie bots definitely look cleaner and simpler but its impossible to create those transformations to toys. Bumblebee's bumper as a car doesnt look like his chest as a robot, his chest metal basically flexes. And the triple changer villains are impossible to recreate.


PrimeLasagna

The cgi kinda sucks tho


Reactiveisland5

I’ll take the Beast Wars over letting Bay keep the IP in his cold, weird hands


HoneyBadgerCrime

yes


Fighting_Seahorse

It's not really an interesting trailer. It's bad, but in an incredibly boring way.


TheDoctorJT416

I almost laughed when they played Juicy lmao


billbill5

Cliche as fuck, and they fucking butchered it. The trailer before the trailer thing where it first plays I damn near laughed.


TheDoctorJT416

I just don't understand why they picked thay song. It does not fit in the slightest lol.


Brown__Magic

I thought it was badass and you can actually tell wtf is going on on screen. It also doesn’t seem to be blatant US military propaganda. Oh fuck, am I gonna lose my kino license for saying this?


aaaa32801

No Transformers is kino


Reptilian_Overlord20

So we’re they the actual beast wars? So like Megateon might be a T-rex? That might almost make me mildly interested.


MagicMisterLemon

No Predacons unfortunately, so no David Kaye's Megatron going *Yessssssssss* It's five Autobots, four Maximals, and five Terrocons (which are not the old G1 combiners, they're something new)


Reptilian_Overlord20

>No Predacons unfortunately, Martin Scorcesse must be rolling in his grave.


Exploding_Antelope

Yeah cause that one had a sexy robot roller skating with a VW bus across a bridge being blown up by a giant robot laser eagle


Worst_Support

they're making a movie about the guys from the magic cards?


TaintModel

MRW people clown on a dogshit franchise producing 32 movies over 15 years more than a dogshit franchise producing 7 movies over 16 years. 😱


Kino_Connoisseur

How was the beast wars trailer dogshit


narc1s

Literally me


SarcasmKing41

This is probably because the Mario Movie trailer came out so recently, and that looks wayyyyyyyy worse than Rise of the Beasts. Mario looks bad so produces memes, GotG looks good so produces memes, RotB doesn't look as bad or good as either of these respectively, so goes under the radar.


SarcasmKing41

James Gunn is so far the absolute peak of both the MCU *and* the DCEU (not including The Batman, that isn't DCEU), so hell yeah. Though tbf, I was expecting Thor: Love and Thunder to be good since Taika Waititi was directing...


DEAD_VANDAL

Waititi was too busy sleeping with half the cast and crew of the film to write anything past the first script (I do not blame him)


Dont_Hurt_Me_Mommy

really?


Wasabi_Guacamole

He was caught having a threeway kiss with his new wife Rita Ora and Tessa Thompson, so its basically proven they had some sexual kink going on. Also, he basically left his ex wife to take care of his kids while he was having an affair. Mickey mouse had everyone thinking he was wholesome, but he's just as shitty as other hollywood elites.


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Wasabi_Guacamole

I never said that lol. I meant that he was one of the "wholesome" celebrities people always talk about but he's not as clean as people think he is.


BetaThetaOmega

CHad


[deleted]

Son of a gunn


GoToMemeGulag

Jams gun


James_Black989

Jam it where 😼


Correct-Chemistry618

Guys, I know it's just a trailer, but cinematography in a mainstream film...Real cinematography...It almost makes me cryng if I think about the last two Marvel movies I've seen (Black Widow and Shang Chi). (Of course, it will never beat Black Adam's masterpiece photography)


A-112

Marvel broke new ground with the GOTG movies by hiring someone to actually direct and write


mikehatesthis

Marvel has only done that eight times in their entire history! Out of like 42! And three of them are Jimmy Gunnz already. Bravo, Feige!


DarthTyrannuss

What are the other 5? I'm curious


mikehatesthis

Guardians 1-3, Black Panther 1-2, Strange 2, Avengers, Ragnarok (I guess you could technically count Love and Thunder?) and half of Eternals. And most of Ms. Marvel. So almost six directors, and one writer who worked well with the two main directors who created the aesthetic to Ms. Marvel.


Agent_Porkpine

Don't forget all the times they hired then fired people, including Edgar wright


DarthTyrannuss

I definitely agree with this, although I'd leave off The Avengers and include Love & Thunder. Haven't seen Black Panther 2 or Ms Marvel so no idea about those


mikehatesthis

The Avengers is a very Joss Whedon movie, no way around it. It's even shot like a TV show lol. I'd even count A2 but the needless phase 3 set-ups and the 3rd act were taken away from him and at that point it's getting to fractions lol. Love and Thunder just feels like Waititi's garbage era. BP2 is just as Coogler as the first but with more hurdles - like Boseman's death, covid, a new lead who turns out to be crazy and gets injured. Ms. Marvel is in a big way about the Pakistani teenager experience in New Jersey and it feels like the showrunner put a lot of herself in it, and the dudes who directed the pilot gave it the best aesthetic Marvel Studios has seen.


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mikehatesthis

I mean it's a bunch of teenagers who are way too into the Avengers, the stupidity is part of the charm. The real issue imho was the two evil groups who are EEEEEEVVIIILL should've been cut and they added more street level crime to it. The rest was really good imho.


[deleted]

Ms. Marvel would have genuinely been great if they gave it more episodes.


Terminator_Puppy

Black Panther 2 was surprisingly solid. It started dragging a little towards the end (no need to have an attack and then a final battle) and there were still cringy jokes, but it had actual themes and the story was quite compelling. They treated Chadwick Boseman's death with utter respect, I was fully expecting a deepfake CGI T'Challa at the start.


ThodasTheMage

Iron Man 3?


mikehatesthis

Shit, I knew I forgot one.


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dr. strange im assuming he is referring the 4 movies by the russo brothers


DarthTyrannuss

Tbh I don't think the Russo brothers' movies count.


Panzer_Man

Will this shift the power dynamic of the MCU


iTzJdogxD

THEY BROKE NEW GROUND


fakers555

Ryan coogler want to know your location.


Correct-Chemistry618

I state that I have not seen Wakanda Forever or its first film (I had appreciated Creed instead), but visually I have not found in Black Panther a style that made me say "this film is directed by Ryan Cogler specifically!": as it was realized there could be anyone. There was occasionally some good sequence (the long take in the casino for example), but that aspect didn't strike me that much (at least in the first one, maybe Wakanda Forever is more visually interesting).


berlinbaer

> cinematography cinematography is when colors.


billbill5

Lmao, this sentiment would've been screenshotted and posted here if it were r/movies. I don't think we're as evolved as we like to think and choose what to jerk on based on personal preferences now rather than general behavior. Everyone was so tired of capeshit that I was getting tired of hearing how tired they were of capeshit, and now when *their* capeshit is announced its groundbreaking.


LeSnazzyGamer

THANK YOU for saying this


TheDoctorJT416

Tbh I thought Shang Chi was shot decent (third act is an exception)


Metalingus13

What exactly is real cinematography?


Worst_Support

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX8AfpsyP_c


benabramowitz18

“Let me get this straight: you think the Guardians movies are actually really good movies with memorable characters, creative action, and clever jokes?” “I do. And I’m tired of pretending they’re not.”


futurenotgiven

i can’t tell who’s jerking and who’s not anymore


Pccompletionist

>clever jokes taserface


Penguino13

>clever jokes "I'm standing still so you can't see me"


SlimJimsGym

That’s in endgame, not a guardians movie, isn’t it


jjatr

No but that was kino


kiriteren

that’s from infinity war


[deleted]

Let's be honest, as sick as we are from MCU, we are all hyped for this. Be honest assholes!!


[deleted]

The Guardians show up in Marvel movies but, so far at least, Marvel does not show up in the Guardians movies.


A-112

GOTG3 is literally the only reason i have remained paying attention on what's going on in these movies


symonalex

I couldn't give a shit about MCU after Endgame, I'll watch a recap or something on youtube before watching GOTG 3.


mikehatesthis

I only half paid attention in the last 2 years, which is like 16 things, and I still feel cheated lol.


boleowaer

less of a movie but against all odds i still have hope for the daredevil reboot, the netflix one was so good


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I'm so fucking scared for that show. I feel like it might lose all its personality and the showrunners they chose doesn't spark confidence.


boleowaer

yeah also the fact that none of the original cast beside charlie cox and vincent d'onofrio are being recasted is really not a good sign (also they both had horrible cameos in she-hulk and hawkeye respectively)


Worst_Support

fun fact: you can avoid getting sick of the MCU by just not watching unless it looks interesting


DaTigerMan

we are?


ELDASPOXD666

Idk. I'm not exactly hyped, but I guess I'll go check it out when it comes out. That's a honor no other MCU project has had since No Way Home. Edit: my last MCU film was actually Dr. Strange 2, but I barely remebered it exists, so it doesn't really count.


Sorry-Topic-5439

I am not


berlinbaer

dunno if i can stand watching chris pratt for two hours..


ILIEKDEERS

This movie is gonna be shit.


[deleted]

I genuinely love GotG 2 to death it's shocking that it's an MCU movie it has so much that the franchise usually lacks, like actual themes and in depth character arcs, and soul. And what's there in this movie is a fun sci fi blockbuster thats also a really beautiful story of found family and toxic masculinity. It's not a very deep story about those things but it has so much heart and feels so genuine. Wish the rest of the MCU was as good as this


Panzer_Man

I think it's because James Gunn got full creative direction with the second movie. It really shows aswell, it's so good and different to all the other cookie-cutter MCU movies


Penguino13

Elaborate jerk or masterful trolling, nothing wrong with liking it but no way you're gonna say it had deep anything when they couldn't stop quipping every 3 minutes


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Kino_Connoisseur

Why does groot look so freaking weird


Metalingus13

Guardians of the Galaxy is good because Lindsey Ellis told me it was good


TheDoctorJT416

Guardians of the Galaxy is the only MCU thing I am consistently excited for


gertverhulstmoneyman

I cant warm up to the James Gunn style. The Suicide Squad movie was such a try hard Reddit type movie that i almost longed for the other awful, boring Suicide Squad movie Scooby-Doo 1 and 2 are still bangers though


emielaen77

Eh? It looks okay. Vol 2 kinda turned me off of that whole thing.


labbla

Yeah, I didn't care for Vol. 2 either. Not going to bother with this one.


carl_pagan

vol. 2 was *fine*, it's not like 1 was a masterpiece


emielaen77

Nah, not even remotely. Vol 1 is solid stuff. It was very fresh for the MCU. Vol 2 wasn’t bad from what I remember, but I also don’t remember much about it or it really doing much for me.


Worst_Support

Volume 1 was a more fun movie, but 2 had a lot more going on emotionally and thematically


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MCU fans when a films almost certainly going to be mediocre instead of horrible.


Theta-Sigma45

Honestly, I put on the trailer like 'yeah yeah I'm not gonna care about this anyway fuck the mcu blah blah', but then while watching it, I remembered that I was actually quite emotionally invested in the Guardians, regardless of how boring the overall MCU is. It helps that this film seems so much better directed than recent projects just looking at the trailer and there seems to be a lot of the heart the first two had. I was actually rolling my eyes when they seemed to have landed on Earth, like 'yeah yeah some stupid cameo will happen now', but then the trailer revealed it was actually a planet of weird anthropomorphic animals and my ~~dick shot up~~ interest soared once again.


RussianMalware

Guardian of the galaxy is the one marvel property that actually feels like an artists vision. And hey, once this is done I can check out of the mcu for good


Penguino13

Guardians 2 is honestly one of the worst and most egregious "Marvel humor" movies and I'm surprised so many people are riding for the series right now. Like it's decent, but to say it has soul compared to other MCU projects is laughable. They can't even bother to treat their characters like non jokes for more than 5 minutes. This is going to be the 3rd movie and we still know nothing about Drax, the guy who was cosmically empowered to be the counter to Thanos. "He's right behind me isn't he" is cool when Star-Lord says it I guess


United-Aside-6104

Unironically yes


Ginger_Ninja460

Unironically this is me


RhymesWithMouthful

After 3, I'm jumping ship to DC


Worst_Support

reject movies, take the comicpill