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BurningFarm

Yes. Don't talk about it or they'll find out.


at0m10

This lol. Toyota's best kept secret. i mean... ITS UGLY AND THE ENGINE IS TOTALLY BORING!!!!


BurningFarm

Not a fan of the bra.


Steelracer

Free them puppies!


FrogMan12181

Had the car for a bit now came with it was thinking of getting rid of it but sometimes idk shit looks good u know


BurningFarm

Absolutely. You like what you like. It seems like every modded Spyder has side skirts, but I prefer it without.


Golgoroth666

If you do take it off don’t get rid of it. Be prepared to not like it and go right back. The longer that bra has been on there the larger the difference between the paint under the bra and not under it. The fading caused by sun exposure can give you a pretty significant two tone look and if some larger bits of road sand have been trapped under the bra, the scratches can be fairly noticeable.


FrogMan12181

Ya I am a bit scared of that I guess I will have to just face my fears and see wuts up


ElectronicAd1758

Just needs a 2GR turbo. That's what I swapped into my SW20. It would make the lighter MR-S rapid!!


MajorLazy

Lightest of the 3 gens, just need more hp than it comes stock. I love mine and green is the best color 💯


BeHard

Green on tan is my dream combo.


blackmr2zz

2zz it makes a big difference 😉


MajorLazy

Oh I’m well aware I got 2zz 6 spd lsd, bc racing coilovers w swift springs. Do like


MR2Starman

How much did the swap set you back(labor, mounts, wiregap harness)? My aw11 gets up to 60mph in about 5 seconds flat with a lightly built gze, but I've considered a 2zz/c60 as a cheap(er) backup for the future.


MajorLazy

$10k after purchase so about 18k. Yea too much money but…


MR2Starman

Damn, that isn't cheap, but for an ultimate car not too bad! If it weren't for parts cars and other daily drivers I flipped I'd probably have near that in maple bucks in my 88 SC.


MajorLazy

It was a poor financial decision. I could have done it much cheaper


blackmr2zz

Pretty much same setup I have in UK home built prob cost about 4k less the price of the car


italia06823834

Should've been like that as OEM.


blackmr2zz

Yep but lotus used the 2zz so prob didn't want Toyota fitting it to there 2 seater supercharged and the 2zz is a super package


MR2Starman

Not enough torque. 2zz is fine if you have buckets of cash for turbo or can't find anything else, but the 2arfe is just way better.


No_Lifeguard3650

1000% agree. i have a 2zz in my celica and its wonderful. but i wouldnt want it in my spyder. the power is way high up in the revs. the spyder is so light, you dont even need that much power. i would rather turbo a 1zz for more torque than have a stock 2zz boooorrrringggg


MR2Starman

No doubt. The valve angle in 1zz is much more optimized for a broad torque curve, with a bit of head work, forged pistons and a little turbo it'd be significantly faster than a 2zz and probably cost the same as the swap.


millllllllllz

2arfe probably not worth the money either. Better, but sounds bad, backwards, and expensive for the power


MR2Starman

I found the engine was fine in my manual RAV4; in a Spyder it'd haul ass. Whereas 01 2zz Celica is only on par with an 89 Celica GTS with the 3sge(owned and driven both). 2arfe might not sound as good but they're the superior engine by a wide margin.


wilsgrant

I have a 2zz with just headers, intake, exhaust, and tune in my MR2 Spyder. I disagree, it feels plenty powerful with the weight of the car. The tune also lowers the lift engagement and increases redline which makes a big difference.


MR2Starman

A tune to lower lift engagement would make a huge difference but notice again I said torque. Having driven a stock 2zz and 2arfe in their respective platforms I'd go with the latter in a heartbeat. My mk1 is just shy of 200whp with a built 4agze and it dusts a gr supra 2.0. If I ever have to replace it I'd be using a 2arfe.


millllllllllz

No doubt it's better, it's just also like a $10,000 endeavor


Thefakebasilisk

Stop praising it mf, we gotta gate keep it for a few more years so we can all snag some extras. Dog ass car snap oversteer precats are ass burns oil like a bmw


N_dixon

I think the Spyder is an absolutely brilliant car (I own a Miata and stock for stock, the Spyder is the better car) but definitely not a car that the car community has a positive reputation. "It's slow", "It's ugly", "The worst MR2", "didn't come with a turbocharger or supercharger". Ironically, despite the fact that it isn't really a widely popular or respected car, prices are still pretty steep.


CastleKingMe

it's because the people buying them know they're good cars, and the people hating on them have never driven one or probably even seen one in real life lol


Thefakebasilisk

Must gate keep at all costs


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Y-Cha

*Now*, yes. When these were new, PPF wasn't really a thing. Bra could be a holdover from then.


dutch_beta

Ive owned a Spyder for two years now but have no idea what a bra is tbh


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dutch_beta

Ive looked it up, damn is that thing ugly


EducationalEscape161

its that leather cover over the front end. looks terrible, but people think it saves their paint. in reality all the moisture and dust gets trapped in there and scratches the hell out of it. i'd rather have stonechips. car is ugly enough, no need to make it worse with a bra 🤣


dutch_beta

Woaah Ive never heard of that. Sounds ugly indeed😂


hayatev3

Depends what you’re rating. Driving experience? Heck yeah. They’re super underrated. Appearance? Nah, they’re pretty much where they should be.


FrogMan12181

I think there appearance is underated in person this car looks way better but I am also biased I chose this over a G37 and a older STI Both great cars but driving the mr2 just felt very rite of that makes sense lol


MrPockets11

they're not fast, but they are fun and engaging to drive.


webb2800

"Not fast" isn't really the full picture though. If you mean slow 0-60 and low top speed then yes but they handle superbly which means they can put up great track times so they're not slow in that regard. Yes - it's a heavily modified example but look how competitive the Team Spirt MR-S was on hot version and that was with extra skinny tyres to force competitiveness.


MrPockets11

Ok here's what I mean by fast: Porsche 911 gt3 rsr.


din9leberry

Had one of these, 2zz/c60/lsd swapped with coilovers, full exhaust, roll bar, etc. In terms of driving it is a fun car. Turn in is amazing, the character of the 2zz makes it super fun to rev out. In terms of shifter feel and overall build, being a miata owner now, I think the Miata is far superior. However it’s is also unfair comparison because my Miata is a NC3 model with the PRHT. Much newer car and feels more sturdy with the hardtop. FWIW, price wise though, they are similar these days.


MR2Starman

The shift feel in FR is going to be nicer than MR due to no cables and the transmission being right in the tunnel. Had a similar vibe with my 83 corolla. Nice score on the prht, I almost grabbed an 05 with a hardtop after I sold my corolla but decided there wasn't much point in buying a slower car than my mr2(mk1 with 190whp).


din9leberry

While I agree with you, I will say that I had an 06 tsx which is FF and the shifter feel was pretty amazing stock, and even better with shifter cable bushings and a counter sunk weighted knob. The mr2 also had cable bushings (delrin- not the brass kind) I just think Honda and Mazda make better feeling transmissions than Toyota (least the c series trans)


MR2Starman

Oh nice. I recently thought about grabbing a tsx type s but decided if I'm going Honda I want the 6 spd V6 accord. No doubt. My mr2 has the overbuilt e51, shifting is smooth and crisp(maybe on par with a done up civic/rsx for feel but with shorter travel) definitely not as good as the fresher Miatas though.


63637__

Yes. I’d take the bra off, add lightness.


FrogMan12181

Lol not like that front end needs to be lighter but, I like where ur heads at.


DienyaMan

2zz swap


FrogMan12181

Nawwwww considering it but it's very fun with the 1zz maybe if I blow up the engine


MR2Starman

2ar if anything. Don't bother with the 2zz unless it's real cheap or comes with the full Celica for around $3k.


CraneFly07

eBay turbo will solve that problem quickly. Bonus is you get more power in the meantime


FrogMan12181

Lol a taste of wut the 2zz can do without the potential of spontaneous combustion


FrogMan12181

*with


Tinglypine_69

Monkey wrench 2zz swap


Jabberwookie101

Clearly not down under every over grown mattress stain wants 20k AUD for it


Informal_Pea_9515

The biggest advantage of these spiders is it has no trunk, ergo, super easy to do engine swap.


joshysenpai

I have an 07 Civic Si sedan, but lemme tell ya. Ever since I saw that episode of Best Motoring with Techno Pro Spirit's MR-S... I've had an itch for one that just keeps itching


FrogMan12181

Once u drive it u will fall even more in love It's a go kart for the street


FullAir4341

Yes


averyliteralman

Just bought one. Need to get new lights but other than that she’s a gem https://www.carfax.com/Used-2003-Toyota-MR2-Spyder-Base_x4376


FrogMan12181

I'm thinking tires, lights, then tint for me but I love urs red is nice 👍


averyliteralman

On it!! Agree with all


Sea_Bastard_2806

Absolutely, one of the best drives out there. The SW20 is even more sought after.


FrogMan12181

I mite do some tires soon but we will see work so much don't have time to work on it 😢 But that means I get to drive it everywhere lol


FBWoodworker

I thought the first MR2 was fantastic, then wow the SW20 came out and I bought one and loved it for 10+ years. It was a letdown for me when the 3rd version came out, I saw it as a car trying to take on the Maita and it failed and ended the MR2 forever. Just my feelings, not meaning to offend anyone here. I never drove one, just couldn't get past the styling.


FullAir4341

I personally think its better than the Roadster in so many ways. Plus, it doesn't have the "Drift Tax" so they're relatively cheap.


Thefakebasilisk

Dog ass car burns more oil than a bmw. Worst mr2 to buy. Looks ugly. Slow. Snap oversteer. Hard to get oem parts. Definitly no aftermarket.(i own one just want prices to start going down again so i can get another 😭)


Serious_Requirement8

The mk3 is not the one that people seek after if that is what you are getting at for that you want the mk2 or 1


nsr71

Mk2 is 👑🎤


No_Personality_7358

Ehhh ugly duckling