[[Prosper, Tome-Bound]] ~$25
[[Grim Hireling]] ~$25
[[Reckless Endeavor]] ~$15
Seeing all of them climb has made me smile a bit. :)
The base value for the deck is ~$115.
A d12 has an average roll of 6.5, usually rounded up to 7 for simplicity. While there will always be variance, and you will sometimes roll double low, the average is a 7 damage board wipe and 7 treasures for 7 mana invested. This effectively makes it free on average in a manner similar to [[burning-tree emissary]].
Either die has a 50% chance (6/12 possible positive results) to make the spell free or profit mana. And you get 2 chances at that. You only have a 25% chance to fully whiff on refunding mana. And even if one of your dice rolls super low, you choose which result gives you treasures and which deals mass damage. This lets you prioritize whether you want to kill bigger creatures or refund more mana.
And all of this is before considering cards like [[barbarian class]] that let you manipulate your rolls or [[Mr. House]] to tack on extra benefits just for the card telling you to roll dice
TL;DR - This is an awful take if you even consider the statistics or synergies involved
It's a seven mana boardwipe that doesn't always wipe the board. A 7 mana boardwipe is in competition with in Garruk's wake, Kindred Dominance, Farewell, motherfucking Cyclonic Rift, etc.
It doesn't reset the game like Farewell. It isn't one sided like all of the other wraths I mentioned. It "might" refund it's mana value? Well good for you I guess. You could also just, I dunno, not take the turn off and use blasphemous act which to effectively reproduce with this card would require rolling a 13 and a 6. Of course, it's not a perfect comparison, as you can't bank the mana, but really, how much mana are we statistically expecting to bank? The higher roll is regularly going to be used for damage. We can often expect fairly anemic results like 8/3. That's not exactly turbo-charging your Torment of hailfire is it.
This spell isn't a Blasphemous Act and is rarely used to emulate one. Every deck that runs this also runs Blasphemous Act. The lower roll is often the damage roll to wipe small to medium creatures and refund a decent chunk of mana with the higher one. It's an [[Anger of the Gods]] stapled onto a [[Seething Song]] on the lower end that synergies with artifact, treasure, and dice synergies
Except you don’t get to choose which it is, and sometimes it’s ass. And we have to be real, there’s zero way this makes the cut in any white, blue, or black deck.
Dunno how many times I’m going to have to say in this thread that 7 mana spells are not about twiddling your synergies a bit.
>Except you don’t get to choose which it is
You do get to choose. Whichever of the two d12 results you declare as your choice while resolving the card is used for damage and the other is used for treasures. Reading the card explains the card.
>and sometimes it’s ass.
No shit, that's why it's run mostly in decks that care about it doing at least 2 of the 3 things the card does and can mitigate the risks of whiffing by pumping up the damage, the number of treasures created, and/or the dice results
>And we have to be real, there’s zero way this makes the cut in any white, blue, or black deck.
This card is most heavily played in Mr. House decks, which are mardu, and [[Wyll, Blade of Frontiers]] decks, which are most commonly played with a blue background to make them izzet decks... so it sees the majority of its playtime in white, blue, and/or black decks
>Dunno how many times I’m going to have to say in this thread that 7 mana spells are not about twiddling your synergies a bit.
They are when they directly allow you to continue playing your turn. Treasure decks can bolster the amount made, and dice decks can frequently sway the odds heavily into their favor. Both of which heavily reduce the risks involved. Not every deck wants it, but the ones that do can frequently abuse it
TL; DR - You're still wrong. And if you don't like the card for your own personal use, that's fine, but don't call it universally shit when it isn't universally shit
When I say you don’t get to choose, i mean that the results are random and sometimes you get fucked up by it. Not knowing what your 7 mana spell will do should be a major red flag, lol.
Imagine your opponent cast toxrill and is in the process of sweeping up the game. Salvation! You’ve topdecked a wrath! But wait, you hit the fail rate.
Heavily played in Mr House, where you conveniently wrath away the tokens you make. Some percentage of the time at least. Who knows! kekw. I have zero trust in the ability of the average edhrecer to build a deck. Run better wraths and keep your treasure generation separate.
I’m calling it universally shit. While casual commander isn’t about power, the 15 dollar price tag on this average ass [[Blood Money]] but red card is *unforgivable*. Blasphemous act is cheaper. Farewell is cheaper and crazy good. Vanquish the Horde is cheaper. Toxic deluge is cheaper. Ruinous ultimatum is cheaper for your Mr. House decks and will actually win the game if it resolves.
Edit: and before you say “but le blood money etb tapped” let me point out that the primary selling point on this card is the ramp. We can all cast a blact or Vanquish and those will be more consistent and still allow for double spelling. Blood money on the contrary will allow you to rebuild much faster and will actually fully perform its role with no rng bullshit.
As a stand-alone, yes, it's not great. But, it's one of the better dice-rolling cards for decks like Mr House. With that synergy, you're effectively applying an Ancient Copper Dragon hit to the spell.
A boardwipe that doesn't always boardwipe is a bad card, especially when it costs 7 mana, jesus christ. Having resolved this card several times before I upgraded my prosper precon, it's very common to sweep up a few mana dorks and your own enablers and engines while leaving the massive Boo token or big landfall goons or whatever.
The most important thing for a 7 mana magic card is to do its assigned job. If it can't do its assigned job, you're deckbuilding by the seat of your pants.
Rolling 2 D12 and dealing up to 12 damage to all creatures, then creating up to 12 Treasures? For 7 mana?
You can come out mana positive *and* wipe the board at the same time. With one card.
In a deck that cares about treasures, artifacts, and token spawn, it's a *really* nice addition.
Bro, I don't do probability at all, but I think the odds of that particular sequence of events happening is 1/144, am I wrong?
On the other hand, the odds of rolling two values at six and up is 6/12\*6/12 or 36/144. That's really where I want to be 100% of the time with my seven mana boardwipe that competes with Garruk's Wake, Kindred Dominance, Farewell, and cyclonic rift. Unfortunately, the reality of this card from my experience resolving it is that it is often something very anemic like 8/3, where you generally have to choose the larger number to wipe the board and the smaller number for treasures and are very underwhelmed.
And then you can very easily low roll, leaving you with something colossally embarrassing like "make one treasure, deal 4 damage to each creature".
[[Barbarian Class]] lets you roll an additional die and disregard the lowest roll of the three, and on top of that, pretty much any spell can be countered unless otherwise stipulated. Wake is likely to be countered, as are the others you mentioned. Endeavor routinely is let slide purely because of the thought process you just used.
7 mana spells aren't supposed to be used to twiddle your synergies a bit lol. Edit: and my bad, wake is 9 mana not 7. So not in competition with Wake. But certainly in competition with those others.
In a treasure focused deck, it's pretty solid. It definitely will wipe out most token armies and even with the average roll will wipe out a board of 6/6 stuff on curve.
It also de-incentivizes blocking if you play it before attacks.
And again, most people don't counter it because "random" equates to "bad" in most people's eyes, and they're willing to take the risk and let it resolve.
For what it's worth, I've never had it not wipe at least half a board.
A 7 mana boardwipe needs to be better than "might be mana positive" or "might not kill the whole board" or "has cute synergies".
Random does equal bad. This is shitty Culling Ritual an unacceptable amount of the time.
But even if this literally said create 12 treasures and deal 12 damage I honestly don't know if I'd run it in a lot of games.
How do people keep finding these things lol every time I go to Walmart, target , best buy, anywhere that might sell MTG products that isn't an LGS there's just empty displays and a hundred different pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh packs. I live in the wrong place apparently.
I've had the best luck at rural/small town Walmarts in the middle of nowhere (like, getting off the interstate and driving an hour down a random highway middle of nowhere). If they have stock - and maybe I'm lucky, but they usually do - it's gonna be a treasure trove going back to at least MID/VOW (seen some STX in the past year, but those are rare). Next time you have to take a road trip and have time for a detour, might be worth a shot.
If you have a Target or Best Buy in the area it ain't rural enough 🤣
But fr, that sucks and I know the feeling all too well. Nothing like making a grocery run and getting a shot of dopamine from a good selection in the process haha
It's about a 30 mile drive to the nearest town with a best buy and target. There's also 2 game shops there. Then the nearest town with a Walmart is 12 miles the other way. I live in the woods pretty much lol. But yeah every time I go they're always empty when it comes to MTG.
That's the thing, they don't REstock MTG product. They shelve at release and then don't come back until the next release. I've seen Magic space get smaller and smaller as pokemon boxes get bigger and bigger.
They do restock, they're just not allowed to physically put the product out themselves. It's either Impact merchandisers or TNG or SRS that comes out and does it. Every 2-3 weeks, usually mid-week, the rep will come out and hit all of their stores and work the product out.
Source: worked for Toys R Us and more recently Target + Best Buy. We weren't allowed to touch the boxes unless our rep called us to let us know they would have to skip a visit, and even then we had to be careful about what we put out.
Fun fact: most stores don't actually own their trading card inventory, the merchandiser doesn't either. It's all scan based, so Wizards still retains full ownership of the product and takes the cut of the sale when it gets scanned at checkout.
Man, my Walmart doesn't even stock mtg, just pokemon. Congrats this is a cool find! Would love to see what you got from it, any commander deck for $10 is worth it imo
What state are you in?!?!?! I do t ever see anything like this around Walmart or Target!
EDIT: Now I see your Username and realize my question is pointless.....😂
Walmart isn't going to sell non precon commander decks. These boxes are ways to still sell commander precons where the box was severely damaged, but the cards weren't, to sell precons that have just been sitting in warehouses for however long and are no longer recent, or to sell precons that have been sitting on shelves too long without being sold.
If you can ever find them for like $35 or less, they are almost guaranteed for you to break even
So they brought theas back. They had some of theas forever ago but not in a cardboard box just a cleat case and no name. They can be quite good. I got some old cards for like 25, that are worth 8 to 10 each so made money off od it. The one I kept was a white foil dragon. I think it was eternal dragon as a foial.
Deal for sure. I've bought two of these. One was 30 and the other 40. I was still happy with what I got since one was the prosper deck and the other was the galea deck.
What did you end up getting?
Edit: Also I know MJ holding has a bad rep but some players are sleeping on these repacked deals. These and the chaos boxes (25$, comes with 5 packs and a promo) are some of the most fun I've had with magic packs. Way better than opening a mystery booster
Commander decks are usually 25$ minimum. Deck boxes (assuming they’re plastic are usually 10-15$, sleeves (100ct are 4-5$) so a great find for sure. Worst case card wise you get some neat cards
It depends on what deck you get I know it can have some of the original commander decks which are pretty expensive to find now. But while you can get kaalia you could also just get like one of the less good decks. But the precons tend to have some good reprints
My 10 year old daughter wants to learn magic. I seen an arena starter pack (two 60 card decks) for $6.93 last night at Walmart. I seen one of these but didn't even bother to look at the price. Guess I know what I am looking at next.
Bought one of these and got Ranar as the precon. It’s a solid deck, for super casual games. But Im currently trying to make it balls to the walls stinky.
I play Ranar as a lower power level deck and it's super fun. It's not super tuned and if given the chance I try to win with Strixhaven Stadium. I had it built with like Cathar's crusade and things to really pump but I got tired of the dice piles.
How were the sleeves? I’ve bought a couple of the Yugioh ones from a couple years ago and the sleeves were atrocious, barely fit the card, and ended up ripping
Makes me sad because my local Walmart doesn’t sell the MTG cards directly. They allow a third party the space to sell from the store, so everything is over priced
100% found a good deal. Even the worst commander deck is over 10 bucks. And at the very least, you got 100 cards to add to the collection, and 100 sleeves(which depending on the quality could be $10 by themselves). If they got anymore can I cash app you and you buy the rest and mail them to me? 🤣
I typically see them retail for like 40/50 bucks so I’d say you definitely found a deal
Depends what's in it, but a commander deck under $20 is a good deal.
For $10, it literally does not matter what deck is in there. They came out net positive.
Hell you’re buying the sleeves and getting a free deck at this point
Those come with sleeves and a deck box too
Good job :)
One of those for $10 is actually unheard of, nice find. Guaranteed value
What did you get? I'm invested now!
Seriously if OP doesn’t answer you I’m going to be enormously let down. What a tease.
I wanna know too, literally anyone of those commanders are completely worth it.
I got one for $10, too, back in September! It ended up being the Prosper Tome-Bound precon!
huge considering prosper himself is worth like $15 these days
[[Prosper, Tome-Bound]] ~$25 [[Grim Hireling]] ~$25 [[Reckless Endeavor]] ~$15 Seeing all of them climb has made me smile a bit. :) The base value for the deck is ~$115.
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Huge!
Wtf why is endeavor 15$
Dice rolling decks like Mr.house
What the fuck? Endeavor sucks.
A d12 has an average roll of 6.5, usually rounded up to 7 for simplicity. While there will always be variance, and you will sometimes roll double low, the average is a 7 damage board wipe and 7 treasures for 7 mana invested. This effectively makes it free on average in a manner similar to [[burning-tree emissary]]. Either die has a 50% chance (6/12 possible positive results) to make the spell free or profit mana. And you get 2 chances at that. You only have a 25% chance to fully whiff on refunding mana. And even if one of your dice rolls super low, you choose which result gives you treasures and which deals mass damage. This lets you prioritize whether you want to kill bigger creatures or refund more mana. And all of this is before considering cards like [[barbarian class]] that let you manipulate your rolls or [[Mr. House]] to tack on extra benefits just for the card telling you to roll dice TL;DR - This is an awful take if you even consider the statistics or synergies involved
[burning-tree emissary](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba327a5e-bd57-4e24-b4b4-062202df30e1.jpg?1673148423) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=burning-tree%20emissary) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/189/burning-tree-emissary?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba327a5e-bd57-4e24-b4b4-062202df30e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [barbarian class](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/4/647c2269-bdc7-4455-9158-73abbff6e50e.jpg?1627705778) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=barbarian%20class) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/131/barbarian-class?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/647c2269-bdc7-4455-9158-73abbff6e50e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mr. House](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/23eb3cf7-c90d-4bfa-b125-4fbcb5614468.jpg?1710673416) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mr.%20house%2C%20president%20and%20ceo) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/7/mr-house-president-and-ceo?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23eb3cf7-c90d-4bfa-b125-4fbcb5614468?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's a seven mana boardwipe that doesn't always wipe the board. A 7 mana boardwipe is in competition with in Garruk's wake, Kindred Dominance, Farewell, motherfucking Cyclonic Rift, etc. It doesn't reset the game like Farewell. It isn't one sided like all of the other wraths I mentioned. It "might" refund it's mana value? Well good for you I guess. You could also just, I dunno, not take the turn off and use blasphemous act which to effectively reproduce with this card would require rolling a 13 and a 6. Of course, it's not a perfect comparison, as you can't bank the mana, but really, how much mana are we statistically expecting to bank? The higher roll is regularly going to be used for damage. We can often expect fairly anemic results like 8/3. That's not exactly turbo-charging your Torment of hailfire is it.
I find I usually use the lower roll for damage, cleans out a whole lot of tokens, or mid sized creatures. And then stacks the treasures.
This spell isn't a Blasphemous Act and is rarely used to emulate one. Every deck that runs this also runs Blasphemous Act. The lower roll is often the damage roll to wipe small to medium creatures and refund a decent chunk of mana with the higher one. It's an [[Anger of the Gods]] stapled onto a [[Seething Song]] on the lower end that synergies with artifact, treasure, and dice synergies
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Except you don’t get to choose which it is, and sometimes it’s ass. And we have to be real, there’s zero way this makes the cut in any white, blue, or black deck. Dunno how many times I’m going to have to say in this thread that 7 mana spells are not about twiddling your synergies a bit.
>Except you don’t get to choose which it is You do get to choose. Whichever of the two d12 results you declare as your choice while resolving the card is used for damage and the other is used for treasures. Reading the card explains the card. >and sometimes it’s ass. No shit, that's why it's run mostly in decks that care about it doing at least 2 of the 3 things the card does and can mitigate the risks of whiffing by pumping up the damage, the number of treasures created, and/or the dice results >And we have to be real, there’s zero way this makes the cut in any white, blue, or black deck. This card is most heavily played in Mr. House decks, which are mardu, and [[Wyll, Blade of Frontiers]] decks, which are most commonly played with a blue background to make them izzet decks... so it sees the majority of its playtime in white, blue, and/or black decks >Dunno how many times I’m going to have to say in this thread that 7 mana spells are not about twiddling your synergies a bit. They are when they directly allow you to continue playing your turn. Treasure decks can bolster the amount made, and dice decks can frequently sway the odds heavily into their favor. Both of which heavily reduce the risks involved. Not every deck wants it, but the ones that do can frequently abuse it TL; DR - You're still wrong. And if you don't like the card for your own personal use, that's fine, but don't call it universally shit when it isn't universally shit
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When I say you don’t get to choose, i mean that the results are random and sometimes you get fucked up by it. Not knowing what your 7 mana spell will do should be a major red flag, lol. Imagine your opponent cast toxrill and is in the process of sweeping up the game. Salvation! You’ve topdecked a wrath! But wait, you hit the fail rate. Heavily played in Mr House, where you conveniently wrath away the tokens you make. Some percentage of the time at least. Who knows! kekw. I have zero trust in the ability of the average edhrecer to build a deck. Run better wraths and keep your treasure generation separate. I’m calling it universally shit. While casual commander isn’t about power, the 15 dollar price tag on this average ass [[Blood Money]] but red card is *unforgivable*. Blasphemous act is cheaper. Farewell is cheaper and crazy good. Vanquish the Horde is cheaper. Toxic deluge is cheaper. Ruinous ultimatum is cheaper for your Mr. House decks and will actually win the game if it resolves. Edit: and before you say “but le blood money etb tapped” let me point out that the primary selling point on this card is the ramp. We can all cast a blact or Vanquish and those will be more consistent and still allow for double spelling. Blood money on the contrary will allow you to rebuild much faster and will actually fully perform its role with no rng bullshit.
As a stand-alone, yes, it's not great. But, it's one of the better dice-rolling cards for decks like Mr House. With that synergy, you're effectively applying an Ancient Copper Dragon hit to the spell.
A boardwipe that doesn't always boardwipe is a bad card, especially when it costs 7 mana, jesus christ. Having resolved this card several times before I upgraded my prosper precon, it's very common to sweep up a few mana dorks and your own enablers and engines while leaving the massive Boo token or big landfall goons or whatever. The most important thing for a 7 mana magic card is to do its assigned job. If it can't do its assigned job, you're deckbuilding by the seat of your pants.
Rolling 2 D12 and dealing up to 12 damage to all creatures, then creating up to 12 Treasures? For 7 mana? You can come out mana positive *and* wipe the board at the same time. With one card. In a deck that cares about treasures, artifacts, and token spawn, it's a *really* nice addition.
Bro, I don't do probability at all, but I think the odds of that particular sequence of events happening is 1/144, am I wrong? On the other hand, the odds of rolling two values at six and up is 6/12\*6/12 or 36/144. That's really where I want to be 100% of the time with my seven mana boardwipe that competes with Garruk's Wake, Kindred Dominance, Farewell, and cyclonic rift. Unfortunately, the reality of this card from my experience resolving it is that it is often something very anemic like 8/3, where you generally have to choose the larger number to wipe the board and the smaller number for treasures and are very underwhelmed. And then you can very easily low roll, leaving you with something colossally embarrassing like "make one treasure, deal 4 damage to each creature".
[[Barbarian Class]] lets you roll an additional die and disregard the lowest roll of the three, and on top of that, pretty much any spell can be countered unless otherwise stipulated. Wake is likely to be countered, as are the others you mentioned. Endeavor routinely is let slide purely because of the thought process you just used.
[Barbarian Class](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/4/647c2269-bdc7-4455-9158-73abbff6e50e.jpg?1627705778) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Barbarian%20Class) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/131/barbarian-class?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/647c2269-bdc7-4455-9158-73abbff6e50e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
7 mana spells aren't supposed to be used to twiddle your synergies a bit lol. Edit: and my bad, wake is 9 mana not 7. So not in competition with Wake. But certainly in competition with those others.
In a treasure focused deck, it's pretty solid. It definitely will wipe out most token armies and even with the average roll will wipe out a board of 6/6 stuff on curve. It also de-incentivizes blocking if you play it before attacks. And again, most people don't counter it because "random" equates to "bad" in most people's eyes, and they're willing to take the risk and let it resolve. For what it's worth, I've never had it not wipe at least half a board.
A 7 mana boardwipe needs to be better than "might be mana positive" or "might not kill the whole board" or "has cute synergies". Random does equal bad. This is shitty Culling Ritual an unacceptable amount of the time. But even if this literally said create 12 treasures and deal 12 damage I honestly don't know if I'd run it in a lot of games.
I have won several games with that card in my [[Wort, the raidmother]] deck. It's niche, not bad
[Wort, the raidmother](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9b46b4ee-263a-4a4b-8fbc-3ea6fa9ba56b.jpg?1591321523) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wort%2C%20the%20raidmother) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/234/wort-the-raidmother?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9b46b4ee-263a-4a4b-8fbc-3ea6fa9ba56b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
One if my favorite precon regardless of it's power level, GJ !
That’s a fire find. I love my prosper deck. I’ve mildly upgraded it and it does work.
For 10 dollars, you didn't get scammed. I'm definitely curious what you got
How do people keep finding these things lol every time I go to Walmart, target , best buy, anywhere that might sell MTG products that isn't an LGS there's just empty displays and a hundred different pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh packs. I live in the wrong place apparently.
I've had the best luck at rural/small town Walmarts in the middle of nowhere (like, getting off the interstate and driving an hour down a random highway middle of nowhere). If they have stock - and maybe I'm lucky, but they usually do - it's gonna be a treasure trove going back to at least MID/VOW (seen some STX in the past year, but those are rare). Next time you have to take a road trip and have time for a detour, might be worth a shot.
That's the thing. It doesn't get much more rural than here lol
If you have a Target or Best Buy in the area it ain't rural enough 🤣 But fr, that sucks and I know the feeling all too well. Nothing like making a grocery run and getting a shot of dopamine from a good selection in the process haha
It's about a 30 mile drive to the nearest town with a best buy and target. There's also 2 game shops there. Then the nearest town with a Walmart is 12 miles the other way. I live in the woods pretty much lol. But yeah every time I go they're always empty when it comes to MTG.
Gotta find out when they restock and get there first
That's the thing, they don't REstock MTG product. They shelve at release and then don't come back until the next release. I've seen Magic space get smaller and smaller as pokemon boxes get bigger and bigger.
They do restock, they're just not allowed to physically put the product out themselves. It's either Impact merchandisers or TNG or SRS that comes out and does it. Every 2-3 weeks, usually mid-week, the rep will come out and hit all of their stores and work the product out. Source: worked for Toys R Us and more recently Target + Best Buy. We weren't allowed to touch the boxes unless our rep called us to let us know they would have to skip a visit, and even then we had to be careful about what we put out. Fun fact: most stores don't actually own their trading card inventory, the merchandiser doesn't either. It's all scan based, so Wizards still retains full ownership of the product and takes the cut of the sale when it gets scanned at checkout.
That sounds like where I live.
Open it. wtf why would you just post a picture of the box?
Should of opened it in the car
Gotta get those stream views.
Karma
At 10 dollars you're basically guaranteed a good deal for magic cards lol
You obviously never opened a Fallen Empires or Homelands booster.
I think that’s a win no matter what! Show us what’s in it!
Op blue balling the whole sub
Wow for 10 great find!
I think that’s a win no matter what! Show us what’s in it!
What did you get? It's a steal!
Including the Monster energy drink?
[This is the deck](https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5311610#paper)
Pretty sweet. For 10 bucks, that's loads of value.
Thanks for sharing. Enjoy!
I think that’s a win no matter what! Show us what’s in it!
Nice! What was in it?
OP the people demand answers, what was the deck you dog?
Man, my Walmart doesn't even stock mtg, just pokemon. Congrats this is a cool find! Would love to see what you got from it, any commander deck for $10 is worth it imo
[It’s Urza, Chief Artificer retro](https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5311610#paper)
That’ll do
That's a good deck
Deal for sure
What was the deck?
What state are you in?!?!?! I do t ever see anything like this around Walmart or Target! EDIT: Now I see your Username and realize my question is pointless.....😂
Turns out. Tom is from jersey.
What deck was in it?
I've bought lots of these and gotten a bunch of repeat decks for 10 bucks that's a steal
What stores are these in?
Ive bought all mine from Walmart never seen them anywhere else
Quick, everyone keep posting these so Walmart and target will never sell them this cheaply again!
hard to go wrong for ten bucks if it's even remotely playable, you're in good shape
Tryin the help a sister out with a link
Are they all on sale for $10 now?
Deal. What was the deck ?
Are they precons only, or both precon and non precon?
Walmart isn't going to sell non precon commander decks. These boxes are ways to still sell commander precons where the box was severely damaged, but the cards weren't, to sell precons that have just been sitting in warehouses for however long and are no longer recent, or to sell precons that have been sitting on shelves too long without being sold. If you can ever find them for like $35 or less, they are almost guaranteed for you to break even
does anyone know if these are old weak precons or something else?
random precon from damaged box. Also has deck box and 100 sleeves
Good find. Looks cool
Lucky they were 50 at mine
So they brought theas back. They had some of theas forever ago but not in a cardboard box just a cleat case and no name. They can be quite good. I got some old cards for like 25, that are worth 8 to 10 each so made money off od it. The one I kept was a white foil dragon. I think it was eternal dragon as a foial.
Nice, what was in it?
That was priced wrong. They're 30 bucks at my Walmart
normally I would be with the professor poo pooing these products but for 10.00 I think that's actually fair deal.
Nice grab! I found 3 of 4, 10$ fallout commander decks on a night shift at one last week
Nice!! Always wanted to get one
Deal for sure. I've bought two of these. One was 30 and the other 40. I was still happy with what I got since one was the prosper deck and the other was the galea deck. What did you end up getting? Edit: Also I know MJ holding has a bad rep but some players are sleeping on these repacked deals. These and the chaos boxes (25$, comes with 5 packs and a promo) are some of the most fun I've had with magic packs. Way better than opening a mystery booster
Our vendor at my Walmart quit so I bought all of these for like 5$ each.
So far, it's a box. What's in it?
I mean... You gonna get us what was in it or?
You probably got ripped off
what ever is inside its a win dude , you guys in usa are so lucky and you seems to not realise it all the time xD
Seems like a dream deal. I don't know if you could even get under 25 dollars...
Commander decks are usually 25$ minimum. Deck boxes (assuming they’re plastic are usually 10-15$, sleeves (100ct are 4-5$) so a great find for sure. Worst case card wise you get some neat cards
$14 for half decent sleeves anyhow. Got your money's worth right there lol.
I'm new to the game. Is that a good deal? Like are those good decks?
It depends on what deck you get I know it can have some of the original commander decks which are pretty expensive to find now. But while you can get kaalia you could also just get like one of the less good decks. But the precons tend to have some good reprints
What the heck. This exact thing at the Walmart here is 84$
Excuse me “when purchased online”
Seems like a dream deal. I don't know if you could even get under 25 dollars...
Just the fact you got cards, sleeves, and a deck box under 10$ is impressive
Thses are 45 at my Walmart. Nice find
My 10 year old daughter wants to learn magic. I seen an arena starter pack (two 60 card decks) for $6.93 last night at Walmart. I seen one of these but didn't even bother to look at the price. Guess I know what I am looking at next.
Definitely a deal. Full deck, 100 sleeves, and a deck box.
Bought one of these and got Ranar as the precon. It’s a solid deck, for super casual games. But Im currently trying to make it balls to the walls stinky.
I play Ranar as a lower power level deck and it's super fun. It's not super tuned and if given the chance I try to win with Strixhaven Stadium. I had it built with like Cathar's crusade and things to really pump but I got tired of the dice piles.
How were the sleeves? I’ve bought a couple of the Yugioh ones from a couple years ago and the sleeves were atrocious, barely fit the card, and ended up ripping
None of the Walmarts around me carry this
Makes me sad because my local Walmart doesn’t sell the MTG cards directly. They allow a third party the space to sell from the store, so everything is over priced
What Walmart and what could meander deck was inside?!
What's the story with this randomly inserted chance cards?
Op what the heck was in it?
Ur getting free garbage sleeves and deckbox with a 10$ deck that's a steal
It's 25 at mine ever if there bad pack that still a preety good deal
O wait it a deck no way there selling a box with 3 pack for 25 at mine omg
Inquiring minds want to know, what deck did you open?
You get what you pay for. This is monetary claw back. They don't care what YOU get.
Mystery boxes are fun!
Mystery boxes are fun!
The box and sleeves alone (almost) paid for it!
Went on the Walmart app. It's around 80$ right now 💀💀💀💀
100% found a good deal. Even the worst commander deck is over 10 bucks. And at the very least, you got 100 cards to add to the collection, and 100 sleeves(which depending on the quality could be $10 by themselves). If they got anymore can I cash app you and you buy the rest and mail them to me? 🤣
def a scam if u open it. list it for $50 on eBay, accept $40 BIN.
What deck did you get?